Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.
What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?
― andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Four Words: Use Other Words Please"Use other words please."Commonly used phrases that inexplicably bug youMost irritating cliche/phrase/expression"Taking Things to a Whole `Nother Level!" words that annoyWords that should earn the author a slapPROVERBIAL and other tip offs to poor writing
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)
Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)
I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)
This is true.
But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....
― roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.
Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)
i’ve tried substituting “you people” for y’all because i’m yankee and don’t wanna seem southern ever. not popular tho i felt excluded after all attempts.
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 15:12 (three days ago)
Creative as noun is like the patron saint of usages that annoy
B-b-but this has been common parlance for decades. Have you not watched Mad Men?
― snark of mall Ds (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 15:17 (three days ago)
So out of East Coast chauvinism, I must and will always argue for the broader adoption of "youse," as in "youse need to shut the fuck up."
Pure Scots, by the way.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 15:34 (three days ago)
I think "creative" used to be confined to the advertising industry but more recently has spread to all creative professions.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 15:36 (three days ago)
"Youse" is fairly common here in mid-Atlantic US, but apparently many people pronounce it with a hard "S", like the noun use, whereas I always pronounced it "yooz" - am I saying it wrong? I've also heard "you lot" twice in the last year.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 16:24 (three days ago)
Youse is also Scouse ofc
― The Ella Langley Schools Music Project (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 16:29 (three days ago)
In the NJ Pine Barrens it is yiz.
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 16:33 (three days ago)
at the grocery store last night: 'family size,' 'family style,' 'family pak'
I hate them all, maybe I just hate families
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 16:38 (three days ago)
I prefer potato chips, whose larger sizes are for parties and not families
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 16:42 (three days ago)
"share size" yeah right
― brimstead, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 16:55 (three days ago)
"new fun size!" just means it got smaller
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 17:07 (three days ago)
'side quest''xxxx-maxxing'
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 17:20 (three days ago)
I just heard about 'pheromaxxing'... bro-dudes not showering so women find their odor irresistible
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 17:21 (three days ago)
my kid announced today she was something-maxxing and i was just “careful, with i heard you usually end up hammering your face or a metaphorical equivalent” and i’ll stay with that as parental advice.
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 17:52 (three days ago)
“with _maxxing” eh
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 17:53 (three days ago)
You're parentmaxxing
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 18:54 (three days ago)
I heard some students talking about one another gigglemaxxing and it occurred to me how little giggling is part of my life. Gigglemax while the gigglemaxxing is good, I say.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 18:57 (three days ago)
may have to bust out no trend, "family style" for my evening listening session
― andrew m., Tuesday, 29 September 2026 18:59 (three days ago)
highly recommended, andy, if you truly hate families
― andrew m., Tuesday, 29 September 2026 19:00 (three days ago)
I was watching the 1988 film She’s Having A Baby recently, and Kevin Bacon’s character works in advertising and there’s a scene in his office with a note on the wall about “making better creative” and I thought, “Wow, the awful uses of the word as a noun actually have been around for a while.”
― Ropy, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 21:54 (three days ago)
In 1993, agency folks were saying both "creative" as a noun and "editorial" as a noun. Not to mean an opinion piece but to mean anything written.
We need some editorial here.
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 22:39 (three days ago)
a buddy of mine in manhattan at bbdo in the fucking late 80s schooled me on creatives, creative, and what he had to do to accomodate and SELL THAT SHIT.
i adopted the descriptive term now regret, but this shit is _ancient_.
he moved on to make a fucking fortune in pharma sales 90-now, but that’s a dif story.
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 September 2026 23:29 (three days ago)
Yes, creative has long been an ad industry term, but my sense (including my brief stint in that awful world) is that “creative” is short for creative department, as in “he’s in creative”, “creative needs it by friday”, or “he’s creative” in the way you might say “he’s finance.”
I think this is different from the ca. 2010s way people started saying “I’m A creative” to mean you’re a freelance illustrator. I think it has more to do with, say, the rise of Linkedin and linked-in speak.
― ed.b, Tuesday, 29 September 2026 23:42 (three days ago)
If this thread didn't happen to be near the top of the page the universe would have been spared this post (I mean, I'm generally used to Australians talking like frickin' 3-year-olds) but a radio traffic report just announced that "traffic is generally light due to school hollies", ie. 'school holidays', presumably. She shortened it several times over, on the national broadcaster. Just talk properly 'straya. I'm not demanding RP or whatever here, just, you know, actual words. This stuff is not cute.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 00:06 (two days ago)
I’m an unapologetic y’all user and I live in the Midwest. It’s the best group term we have and y’all can eat a donut in stony silence if y’all don’t like it
despite having been literally born in pittsburgh (magee women's hospital ftw!) and grown up there . . . i have long since lost the battle/war for its plural term. it *should* be 'yunz' but has instead become 'yinz'
anyway everyone everywhere has full permission to use either term
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 07:03 (two days ago)
ye
― Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 08:33 (two days ago)
Ahem
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 09:27 (two days ago)
different deployment ofc
yours, i presume, is just short for kanye
― Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 09:33 (two days ago)
It's actually supposed to be a thorn (Þ)
Because it's short for KanÞ
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 09:39 (two days ago)
Actually it would be a yogh in that case, should really be Kanȝe.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 09:51 (two days ago)
but a radio traffic report just announced that "traffic is generally light due to school *hollies*", ie. 'school holidays', presumably.
Ugh, it reminds me of the turdtastic “cozzie livs “. Stop it with this shit people!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 10:18 (two days ago)
"cozzie livs" seems like a parody of the genre, as does "menty b"
― The Ella Langley Schools Music Project (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 10:44 (two days ago)
The Australian diminutive is not new, prezzies for Chrissy etc. Firefighters being called firies, though, is a choice.
I thought cozzie livs/menty b is more specifically 2020s British?
TS Mel B vs. Menty B
Menty B and Rakim
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 11:14 (two days ago)
"y'all" is a very useful word, but it's the camel's nose inside the tent for creeping Southern-ism"
This. My problem with it is the tone and way it's used in my current environment. In Texas it was fine and I used it freely, it was just another word. In Savannah there's a tone to it that grosses me out. It's like, a weird pride in using the word? In my attempts to personally eradicate it I've given up on using a contraction but I think I'll switch to "youse." Added benefit: it will really aggravate my pedantic mother-in-law who is a ya'llmaxxer.
― Art Cow (Cow_Art), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 11:17 (two days ago)
Cozzie livs yes, menty b has always been described as Aussie slang when I've heard it.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 13:06 (two days ago)
Never heard of either of them but they seem quite amusing to me, school hollies is just stupid though. Prezzies isn't Australian, by the way.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 13:16 (two days ago)
... first recorded usage is by Nancy Mitford! And, yes, I can definitely imagine it starting as English upperclass/public school slang.
― Happiness is a warm gurn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 13:19 (two days ago)
"creatives" as a broad term is annoying but god forbid you run into "makers" and "builders"
― mh, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 14:02 (two days ago)
I've made my peace with it, but the one that bugged me for a while was people putting "based in" in their bio. As opposed to "lives in," I guess? I kind of jokingly called someone out on it because they didn't really travel much for work.
― mh, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 14:06 (two days ago)
I think I'll switch to "youse."
One of us... one of us...
― wipes chooser (unperson), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 14:08 (two days ago)
I saw someone write "Youns be all" in a group chat. I assume it was some mad typo, but I like it
― snark of mall Ds (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 14:17 (two days ago)
Anyway, I'm starting to hate "quietly" being used in clickbait headlines. "Alex Karp quietly purchased 32,000 acres of Swedish forest". "Israel has been quietly bombing the citizens of the West Bank" etc...
― snark of mall Ds (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 14:19 (two days ago)
I think youns is supposed to be pronounced more like yoo'uns, as two syllables.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 16:21 (two days ago)
campaign to bring back "thou"
― mahb, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 16:38 (two days ago)
good but singular, so for y’all i’m sticking with dmac’s “ye” i guess
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 17:31 (two days ago)
I’ll be continuing with y’all bc those other substitutes are not part of my dialect at all. I’ve never said yinz or yunz or youse in my life and I’m not about to start now.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 21:48 (two days ago)
this one guy at this bookstore used to greet my wife as i with a semi-exasperated "hello, you two" like we're a couple of ne'er-do-wells or something
― brimstead, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 22:20 (two days ago)
i say vosotros
― Stone Temple Pilates (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 30 September 2026 22:45 (two days ago)
all y'all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 September 2026 22:49 (two days ago)
on LETTERKENNY, eh? they say 'yous' but i am not canadian enough to say how that is spelled or how widespread it is
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 October 2026 01:13 (yesterday)