― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Four Words: Use Other Words Please"Use other words please."Commonly used phrases that inexplicably bug youMost irritating cliche/phrase/expression"Taking Things to a Whole `Nother Level!" words that annoyWords that should earn the author a slapPROVERBIAL and other tip offs to poor writing
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)
Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)
I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)
This is true.
But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....
― roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.
Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Win A Lie-Down, Mrs. Davies (kate), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 12:36 (one week ago)
Doesn't seem so long ago that we acknowledged that meat/etc wasn't never wholly "protein" in the first place. My inner biochemist would like "a protein" to still mean, like, immunoglobulin G or keratin, etc.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 12:40 (one week ago)
It also makes me think of Subway, eight varieties of "protein" that all taste the same, just like the eight varieties of "bread" that all taste the same, and all the sauces which... you get the idea.
― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 12:42 (one week ago)
Ugh, protein. ‘Choose your protein’ just sounds gross.
Choose your weapon...
― (energetic rock music continues) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 12:45 (one week ago)
I get the dislike of 'pick a protein', but 'choose your starch' is way worse. have def heard that in my lifetime (probably in SF).
― kinder, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 13:25 (one week ago)
I'm definitely not a gym bro or a diet person, but I do tend to think of satisfying meals as vegetable + protein + carb. More from a 'delicious combo' than any science.I think some of it also comes from the 'advice' you're bombarded with re baby feeding/ weaning. If someone has never had that responsibility and pressure it's probably easier to not become ingrained.
― kinder, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 13:31 (one week ago)
You haven’t lived until you’ve been told about staaaaaarch options by a server with a broad Minnesota accent.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 14:08 (one week ago)
My actual mental image of "starch" is a can of Niagara spray starch, for ironing clothes.
https://i.postimg.cc/k59fvCRj/s-l1200.webp
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 14:41 (one week ago)
In the moving-out brouhaha of my last break-up, I bought dinner at a pharmacy: cooked chicken breast pieces in a sealed plastic container, ketchup-flavoured rice crisps, a zero-sugar Gatorade, and ate it in my car, with the spoils sitting on the passenger seat, and I took photos and sent it to a friend asking if I was eating "boy dinner" and it was confirmed that it was exactly what I was eating.
― always sometimes easy time (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, October 19, 2026 6:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
this is gay boy dinner and i'm familiar with the menu
― old helen (map^2), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 14:44 (one week ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/jun/15/lunch-of-suffering-plain-white-people-food-goes-viral-in-china
― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:08 (one week ago)
i also really hate the nutrisciencing of food language
― L'enfer, c'est les otters (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:13 (one week ago)
"... a handful of oatmeal mixed with low-fat yoghurt, with half an apple and a carrot. If such a meal is to extend life, what is the meaning of life?”
Indeed.
― (energetic rock music continues) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:15 (one week ago)
i love that kind of shit in the morning. most relatively unprocessed foods with a lot of fiber actually taste good and feel good to me. also macro nutrient categories are good.
― old helen (map^2), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:18 (one week ago)
yep, every morning it's fat free greek yogurt with granola or oatmeal and a bunch of fruit, hoping to help stave off diabetes
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:48 (one week ago)
I stopped listening to music, I just listen to AI-generated lo-fi study beats now, helps me better regulate my mood.
― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:51 (one week ago)
Kinder otm re “advice” — definitely pregnant women and new moms get the most. I feel like men are now getting the same food and “scientific” diet admonitions that women and girls have been bombarded with for decades.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:56 (one week ago)
Diet and nutrition were part of the home ec classes girls were required to take in school up until the 1970s (at the earliest)
― sarahell, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 15:57 (one week ago)
― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, October 20, 2026 9:51 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
wait is ai-generated lo fi study beats supposed to be healthy food in this metaphor? that's interesting.
― old helen (map^2), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 16:02 (one week ago)
Tbf "meat and two veg" long precedes the veggie talk.
― Alba, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 16:04 (one week ago)
xxp Reminds me of when we first moved to the UK and lived one minute away from my son's primary school. My wife would try to take a hot lunch for him and the school were baffled and unhappy at her for daring to do that, they would give her leaflets with advice like "don't just give your kids crisps and a chocolate bar for lunch!" as if she was being somehow a neglectful parent by not wanting him to have cold cheese sandwiches and carrot sticks and a fruit shoot.
― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 16:07 (one week ago)
wait is ai-generated lo fi study beats supposed to be healthy food in this metaphor? that's interesting.― old helen (map^2), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 17:02 (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― old helen (map^2), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 17:02 (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
not healthy food but "healthy food"
Wordplay I had missed - the use of veggie + tales to get something resembling the full word "vegetables". Sad to say evangelical punning went over my head for so long
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeggieTales
later on the page, this cursed image caption, "Mr. Lunt, Pa Grape, and Larry the Cucumber at the Celebrate Freedom 2007 concert"
― bendy, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 17:00 (one week ago)
also cursed "Junior Asparagus Bedtime Friend"
― bendy, Tuesday, 20 October 2026 17:01 (one week ago)
that's a (sub-optimal) meal deal, imo
I was told that "boy dinner" has a veneer of "post-gym protein load" to it, but my frame of reference was limited to a single millennial friend on this
― always sometimes easy time (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 20 October 2026 17:29 (one week ago)
"Journey."
As in: "In 2007 I began my writing journey..." Yeah, no.
― stopping by billy woods on a snowy evening (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 12:15 (one week ago)
i’ve got your boy dinner right here
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 October 2026 12:16 (one week ago)
aka my “post-gym protein load”
Fped
― And the former was the Brew Crew, while the latter was the Rays; (gyac), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 12:29 (one week ago)
lol
― Art Cow (Cow_Art), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 12:41 (one week ago)
Junior Asparagus Bedtime Friend = 20th century schizoid man … now I am cursed.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 21 October 2026 17:38 (one week ago)
I also hate “journey.”
I won’t justify the “protein” language but as a total jock who often needs to protein load, I understand it to a certain degree, and it doesn’t annoy me.
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 19:15 (one week ago)
I will say that I resent the projection that people who care about what they put into their bodies are “joyless” and don’t know how to “enjoy life.” Maybe the idea that just eating whatever shit you want is “enjoying life” is a actually the disordered thinking.
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 19:18 (one week ago)
i know the internet has moved well past this but i still feel a pedantic twinge when someone uses "TERF" to describe a transphobe who isn't a radical feminist
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 19:23 (one week ago)
"I won’t justify the “protein” language but as a total jock who often needs to protein load, I understand it to a certain degree'
LOL the entire historical thred about this. i assume it's long abandoned one, tho i don't know or care. the people who spend a huge amount of their efforts to chase results that are useful only in the last 5% of performance bettter be fucking PRO, as they said in the teens.
as far as shorthanding food into protein carb fat or nutritional sectors, fine. it's not un-useful in the big picture, but it's used for daily application that is often just delusional.
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 20:51 (one week ago)
I will say that I resent the projection that people who care about what they put into their bodies are “joyless” and don’t know how to “enjoy life.” Maybe the idea that just eating whatever shit you want is “enjoying life” is a actually the disordered thinking.― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 20:18 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 20:18 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Not meant as a personal attack, it is the entire culture (I'm thinking UK here but USA seems to be similar) that has a fucked up relationship with food, we are all to some extent products of our culture.
― Bob Karol G (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 21:02 (one week ago)
...i.e., yogurt
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 21:04 (one week ago)
Hunt3r I don’t know or care about the historical thread.
I bicycle close to 45 mi/week, climb and strength train 3-4 days a week, all told. All available literature points to .7g/1g of protein per pound of body weight with the amount of exercise I do, and I often find it hard to reach the lower end of that if I don’t resort to supplements. But sure, laugh away and be a dismissive dick
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 21:29 (one week ago)
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r)
why do you care?
― stopping by billy woods on a snowy evening (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 21:31 (one week ago)
love me some tactical protein
― brimstead, Wednesday, 21 October 2026 22:26 (one week ago)
a) tabes and all, i’m sincerely sorry to seem a dick— it’s a general comment about me if course we needn’t pretend.
b) knowing the generals and following from there is great, totally still do that. when my 20 y/o kid bought a food scale lately i forced a talk.
c) alfred, i think you know, let’s don’t pretend. it’s because of me chasing performance i did a lot of orthorexic shit in the 90s.
when you’re weighing your portions, you BETTER be chasing the last couple %. and by then your physio should be doing it for you.
and for all my sincere apologies— and they are sincere— there’s shit i laugh at. been there too much. partially a laugh at me.
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 22:33 (one week ago)
seems like there could be a better thread for this line of chat... unless we wanna talk about 'fiber-maxxing', then you're in the right place
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 October 2026 22:41 (one week ago)
I am actually not bothered by the categories tbh … thinking about aging and medical problems that require dietary changes… like, if you are used to eating red meat or lol BACON SAUSAGE etc and don’t know what else contains protein… it can be helpful… or, y’know, being reminded that potatoes are starchy carbs … also portion control idk … though I am certain that in some contexts this would annoy the shit out of me
― sarahell, Wednesday, 21 October 2026 23:02 (one week ago)
starchy carbs
O no another platty jubes
― Paprikachu (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 23:04 (one week ago)
With all due respect, I didn't know -- this is the kind of detail that gets lost on ILX after three decades.
― stopping by billy woods on a snowy evening (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 23:08 (one week ago)
Hunter, I get it. I have had problems with disordered eating my whole life— for reference, I was 215 in December of my freshman year of high school, and 118 by April of my sophomore year. At the moment I amhitting what I need to but getting everything right, especially as my metabolism has slowed (I am 42), has been very fucking tiresome. Sorry to have lashed out.
― out of the cradle endlessly party rocking (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 23:09 (one week ago)
you’re all super kind thx. I remember like 25+ yrs afo how i was gonna meet my protein recommendations i was like “yo that shit’s impossible even with greek yogurt in a funnel yo.”
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 October 2026 23:37 (one week ago)
“ago” plus other errors.
also tabes, upon late review those numbers are real hard to read, sorry again. i sure hope you’re well, happy, and content. i know battles similar or overlapping to those, that’s all.
― i am beyond the number of fingers (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 October 2026 02:35 (one week ago)