― Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Four Words: Use Other Words Please"Use other words please."Commonly used phrases that inexplicably bug youMost irritating cliche/phrase/expression"Taking Things to a Whole `Nother Level!" words that annoyWords that should earn the author a slapPROVERBIAL and other tip offs to poor writing
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)
Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
This is true.
But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....
― roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.
Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)
Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)
I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)
― Win A Lie-Down, Mrs. Davies (kate), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)
― jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)
As used to describe a footballer running into a streak of good form
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)
― stelf)xxx, Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)
When used in phrases like "a raft of policies" or "a raft of new measures" - why?!?!??!!?
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)
Or a colon.
COINKY-DINK, "guestimate," and any time someone ends an interrogative sentence with "at," as in "Where's my keys at?" or "Where's your head at?"
― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)
Disassociate, to me, connotes something intentional — like the zendesk example, or to remove a connection to a person or entity… like, the Democratic Party. Many US ilxors disassociate themselves from the Democratic Party. Dissociate is not intentional … it involves unintentional/ uncontrolled pathological avoidance of reality. Many people are now using it to mean something closer to daydreaming and zoning out.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 17:53 (three weeks ago)
xp i am actually quite averse to this type of hyperbole for this very reason. a person can absolutely communicate their point in a different and less offensive way. once at work a coworker pretended to shoot herself in the head because she didn't like something (i can't even remember what, something extremely innocuous) and i asked her please to not do that, or at least to not do that around me. she apologized!
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 August 2025 17:54 (three weeks ago)
Even in orbit’s use to refer to shutting down from exhaustion… which isn’t pleasant, and is sometimes what people use it to mean … is a “semantic broadening” that I dislike just like the PTSD example… like I have known clinically dissociative people and it’s scary af to see.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 17:58 (three weeks ago)
Xp Tracer — that’s super contextual— and in some cases I would agree with you but in other situations, depending on the person… or day…I would have the same aversion as LL… for personal reasons.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 18:01 (three weeks ago)
See also the phrase “die in a fire”
― sarahell, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 18:02 (three weeks ago)
yeah certain songs are ruined forever as a result of the event sarahell is talking about— see the second track on Ghost Tropic.
― czech hunter biden's laptop (the table is the table), Wednesday, 27 August 2025 23:57 (three weeks ago)
I started a *thread* where I 1) conflated dissasociate and dissociate *and* used the concep inappropriately. So. I did mea culpa myself in the thread and explained how I think the concept can be used with regards to music (as per La Lechera's explanation), but still.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 28 August 2025 08:16 (three weeks ago)
How about 1) people who use mea culpa, and b) use it as a verb?
I used the term 'degradation' rather than 'semantic broadening' for a reason: that the specific type of change I am disussing here is a move from the term having a neutral, often clinical or academic connotation, to a wholly negative or harmful connotation
Since I was talking about van der Kolk, I was thinking more of the internet slang meaning of 'triggering' as much as 'dissociate'. Again, 'triggering' used to have a specific medical, physiological or psychological meaning. Now it has shifted to be wholly negative, meaning something like 'irrationally upset or angry about something, usually trivial'. As someone who suffers from a quite severe neurological condition with specific triggers, this switch to a negative meaning is harmful. When I need to ask for accommodations, stating 'I need to avoid this as it is triggering', it is dreadful to have others hear 'this just makes me irrationally upset' rather than 'this is a situation requiring a medical accommodation'
I do believe that the casual internet slang usage of 'dissociate' as just spacing out or woolgathering has the capacity for similar harm, as La Lechera has demonstrated
However, there are similar mental fugue-type states, such as severe Burnout (which seems like the kind of total exhaustion in orbit is describing) or Autistic Shutdown, which have very similar affect to dissociation, but without with PTSD link. I believe in precision in langage so it's probably better to use the more accurate term
― Etherwave, Thursday, 28 August 2025 09:11 (three weeks ago)
I think Americans might not easily understand the level of abuse in UK culture.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, August 27, 2025 11:49 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
This was one of the weirdest things to me when I moved here the first time. I was like, wait, you make fun of everyone with red hair just for having it? I still don't get it tbh.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 28 August 2025 12:56 (three weeks ago)
One I find really annoying is "let's circle back" when someone is suggesting a particular discussion had gone way off track or become bloated or bizarre or whatever.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 31 August 2025 01:21 (three weeks ago)
ah re gingers its not that deep as a rule
c&p x 50 actually tbh
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 01:23 (three weeks ago)
thread austere and ginger ranters
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 31 August 2025 01:25 (three weeks ago)
but let me liken it to "your momma" jokes, which ive found to be impossible to explain to american ilxors as yknow possibly worth reconsidering
whatever was accepted by a culture as joshing at a young wnough age is possibly just understood inherently differently vs hiw someone might experience it if/when they experience it from another culture or if they havent been immersed in it at that young age, etc
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 01:27 (three weeks ago)
xp lol
That is a good analogy. I have moved in a social circle where "your mom" jokes were explicitly understood to be about a nonspecific universal or conceptual mom, not the hearer's actual human mom.
We often know the moms in question, and there is one friend whose mom is dead; we went to her funeral. Another guy is a fucking ORPHAN. Both still give/get "yer mom" and regard it as all in good fun.
― je ne sequoia (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 August 2025 09:19 (three weeks ago)
I think that last part is the key but coming in from outside not just the group, but the culture, leaves the new joiner nonplussed (is that a term which has been constantly raised in this very thread i feel it is) and on the back foot- so you have three possible (at first thought) approaches maybe
- come from outside that understanding and have reason to be sensitive to that particular understood context (me to us posters snickering about dead moothers)
- come from outside that understanding and think ok weird dunno how to take that ill presume theres more going on that i just don't get (ENBB and UK culture re gingers above I think fits this?)
- come from outside that understanding but project only a personal understanding without being able to see that there is that context (i think I'm trying all the time to do less of this but i think ilx us/uk and a million other splits over the years shows examples of this)
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2025 11:57 (three weeks ago)
oh i have one i meant to post
"in a minute" to mean a very long time a minute is a very short time thos isnt even witty its just wrong
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 06:51 (two weeks ago)
cf. "in a mo"
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 06:54 (two weeks ago)
but in a mo means in a short while
im talking about a widespread folksy american usage of "minute" that means "in a long time" and the listener is meant to *understand* this?
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 08:15 (two weeks ago)
Oh Americans, who knows what they're on about half the time.
― AI Jardine (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 08:19 (two weeks ago)
When kids these days say “bad”, they mean “good”. And to “shake your booty” means to wiggle one’s butt
― GY!BP (wins), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 08:31 (two weeks ago)
oh i have one i meant to post"in a minute" to mean a very long time a minute is a very short time thos isnt even witty its just wrong
"It's been a minute" v "It's been a hot minute". Not sure which is longer.
― Alba, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:25 (two weeks ago)
just saw this one.. "price-sensitive". as in poor.
― she freaks, she speaks (map), Saturday, 13 September 2025 16:11 (one week ago)
I am actually ok with that one … because poor isn’t value-neutral. Also some people who are “price-sensitive” might technically not be poor, but they have assets that can’t easily be converted to cash.
― sarahell, Saturday, 13 September 2025 17:00 (one week ago)
"And to “shake your booty” means to wiggle one’s butt"
It's only a matter of time before there's a Bill and Ted sequel in which Bill and Ted travel back to pirate times, and they meet a lady pirate played by Beyonce, who is holding a bag of gold coins, and they ask her to shake her booty, and she jingles the bag of gold coins. Everybody laughs. Applause. Curtains.
It feels like the kind of joke that was probably used in one of those not-quite A-list mid-2000s comedies, such as Scooby Doo or Get Smart, obviously with modifications, but it must have been done already.
Have I mentioned case? As in "use case". The use case of this gadget is obvious. This thing has an obvious use case. It doesn't fit any use case I envisage. I struggle to see its use case. My own use case for X is Y. And so on. It just feels like an unnecessary expansion of use intended to sound a bit smarter and more formal.
e.g. use. Not use. I mean use, as in use. Short use, not long use. Yoos. Not youse.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:49 (one week ago)
The man never doesn’t miss
― GY!BP (wins), Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:51 (one week ago)
still working on that Adrian Chiles column?
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:52 (one week ago)
The overuse of "manifest."
― hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 September 2025 19:54 (one week ago)
In Ashley’s cinematic dystopia, there will also be a “clever” reference to Manifest Destiny and the lady pirate is Manifest Destiny’s Child and people will discuss this earnestly online.
― sarahell, Saturday, 13 September 2025 20:12 (one week ago)
you are my manifest density
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 September 2025 20:17 (one week ago)
xp insert sheik yerbouti zappa pic here
― beige accent rug (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 September 2025 23:23 (one week ago)
"In Ashley’s cinematic dystopia, there will also be a “clever” reference to Manifest Destiny and the lady pirate is Manifest Destiny’s Child and people will discuss this earnestly online."
In my mind the character will slink into frame with the opening bars of Jimi Hendrix's "Voodoo Chile" playing non-diegetically in the background, because it's 2005 and the producer/director/whoever still remembers From Dusk 'til Dawn.
Twenty years later the Great Internet Content Farm will run a bunch of articles on the topic of whether the character was an offensive stereotype, or a surprisingly well-researched depiction of voodoo, with each article illustrated by a photo of the character in a bikini, and the majority of the actual content will be posts from Reddit.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Sunday, 14 September 2025 14:58 (one week ago)
We WILL make money on AI yet who doesn’t want— nay NEED! that content?
― beige accent rug (Hunt3r), Sunday, 14 September 2025 16:49 (one week ago)
less annoy, more fill me with dread: 'pivot'
― she freaks, she speaks (map), Friday, 19 September 2025 02:03 (two days ago)
now see I love a pivot table
― kinder, Friday, 19 September 2025 10:07 (two days ago)
surely we have already covered "timeline cleanse?"
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 19 September 2025 20:25 (two days ago)
sounds like the title of a Dan Simmons book
― brimstead, Friday, 19 September 2025 20:27 (two days ago)
or something.
'timeline cleanse'? does it start with stewed prunes?
Never heard of it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 September 2025 20:34 (two days ago)
Aka brain bleach
― shot the archduke but not the deputy (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 September 2025 21:39 (two days ago)
On days full of bad news (basically, all of them), someone on social media will post that phrase along with something cute from Sesame Street, or some vacuous affirmation thing, or Betty White breaking character on the set of Golden Girls or something. I guess the general idea is that it's meant to be a brief wholesome break from our daily horrors. I like the idea,, but given the state of the world, I find it can have a trolling effect
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 19 September 2025 23:21 (two days ago)
I get it.. I remember reading an interview with some really doomy/apocalyptic naturalist philosopher dude who saw the environment as irreversibly in decline.. but he admitted to playing online poker in this downtime
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 September 2025 23:27 (two days ago)