Now, a small cadre of philistines in my office has been using the word "outreach" as a NOUN... "Were you able to establish some outreach with the printers?" etc.
What language abuses have been rubbing you raw lately?
― andy, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Four Words: Use Other Words Please"Use other words please."Commonly used phrases that inexplicably bug youMost irritating cliche/phrase/expression"Taking Things to a Whole `Nother Level!" words that annoyWords that should earn the author a slapPROVERBIAL and other tip offs to poor writing
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
-- caitlin (wpsal...) (webmail), December 23rd, 2003. (caitlin)
Oh yes, yes yes. I second that one. And the people who say it, say it over and over.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)
This is true.
But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....
― roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.
Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (nineteen years ago)
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― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago)
Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (nineteen years ago)
I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (nineteen years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago)
the word “win” itself should be binned at this point, along with the word “binned” when used by usa people.
― Theodor W. Adorbso (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 May 2025 22:57 (one week ago)
Clearly American sportscasters need to read up on top sportbloke Mr McNulty.
― sarahell, Saturday, 17 May 2025 01:27 (one week ago)
there's another slightly more obscure meaning to 'win' that is kind of lost now - to arrive at your destination.
number 5 herehttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/win
― koogs, Saturday, 17 May 2025 08:09 (one week ago)
Passion project
― Alba, Saturday, 17 May 2025 12:56 (one week ago)
What am I supposed to call it when I spend hours on woodwork and then nail a guy to it
― the babality of evil (wins), Saturday, 17 May 2025 13:03 (one week ago)
An exception will be made
― Alba, Saturday, 17 May 2025 13:05 (one week ago)
I feel like passion project is usually used with irony or outright condescension
― conrad, Saturday, 17 May 2025 13:14 (one week ago)
but perhaps that's why it annoys the shit out of you
― conrad, Saturday, 17 May 2025 13:15 (one week ago)
#NailedIt
― zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 17 May 2025 13:42 (one week ago)
― Alba, Saturday, 17 May 2025 13:55 (one week ago)
I get irrationally angered by the phrase "I didn't have that on my bingo card." An anger that, to be honest, I did not have on my bingo card.
― henry s, Saturday, 17 May 2025 18:45 (one week ago)
Good one--started noticing that a few months ago.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 May 2025 18:53 (one week ago)
That's been around forever but definitely has ramped up in recent years. My objection to it is conceptual: It suggests that a "bingo card" is something where you log events that you expect, as the statement always refers to something you didn't expect. But Bingo cards are not filled out by players, they are given to players already filled out. It's a game of chance. So the ostensible metaphor or analogy doesn't work.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 17 May 2025 18:59 (one week ago)
I assume this is driven by the prevalence of things like Oscars bingo or whatever
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:06 (one week ago)
xp i think that's the point. for instance, at summer camp you might have a bingo card with entries like, "saw a bald eagle," "tie died a shirt," "built a campfire," etc. so if your bunk mate elopes with the counselor and they go on a bank robbing spree, you might say, "well! i didn't have that on my bingo card!" meaning that it's so far out that it didn't previously seem possible/plausible
― budo jeru, Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:11 (one week ago)
nb i'm not defending the expression
many of these more twitter-y phrases i only see online, but if i overhear anyone say them out loud it basically turns me into an overripe tomato for 10 minutes.
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Saturday, 17 May 2025 19:34 (one week ago)
One expression I feel doesn't work is "thrown under the bus."
If you and another person are on a bus and you throw them off, they land behind the bus, or to the side. You can't throw them under it, unless you have some way to like lean way out and throw them inward, at an angle. While somehow holding a whole entire person several feet out from a presumably moving bus.
Even if you could throw them off the front of the bus, it seems like getting hit by the bus is the more likely outcome. Buses typically have low clearance for rider convenience in boarding.
Is this an open-top double-decker bus maybe? If so, why would anyone go with you to the upper level if there was a chance they'd be thrown off? And anyways that is still not being thrown _under_ it. You're just being thrown _off_.
Okay, so what if you're not on the bus and you're, like, on the sidewalk when a bus is coming, you would be just _pushing them in front of the bus_, not _throwing them under it_. Unless you somehow lift the person and rotate them sideways, then maybe you could sorta slide them under a bus like putting a pizza in a oven.
It doesn't make sense.
― zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 17 May 2025 20:15 (one week ago)
I always thought it meant metaphorically pushing someone into the path of a moving bus to save yourself in some fashion.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 18 May 2025 16:22 (six days ago)
it does. ymp you’re being very picky. when people say they’re going to turn out the light are you like *pushes glasses up nose* you’re not turning anything, you’re pressing a switch, what you’re saying makes no sense
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 May 2025 16:26 (six days ago)
then maybe you could sorta slide them under a bus like putting a pizza in a oven.
I laughed for quite a while at this.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 18 May 2025 16:27 (six days ago)
but jesus fucking christ people on the internet like to just hammer a phrase to fucking death
This is the issue for me with a lot of these phrases. It's not that I mind them on their own, but you just know you're never going to hear anything else. "Comfort zone", "wow factor", "iconic Maida Vale studios", it's so tiresome. I was watching a competition programme on the telly one day and one of the judges was talking about a contestant needing to bring the wow factor. Two of the judges said he had brought the wow factor, one of them said he had brought A wow factor, but not necessarily THE wow factor, and I had to turn it off. Just say you want to be impressed!
― trishyb, Sunday, 18 May 2025 16:48 (six days ago)
lol, I've heard "iconic Maida Vale studios" about three times in the last two hours.
― fetter, Sunday, 18 May 2025 17:26 (six days ago)
one of them said he had brought A wow factor, but not necessarily THE wow factor
That's awesome.
― jmm, Sunday, 18 May 2025 17:31 (six days ago)
we need a typology of wow factors
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Sunday, 18 May 2025 18:30 (six days ago)
"I'm not crying, you're crying"
― jaymc, Monday, 19 May 2025 12:26 (five days ago)
I'm sure it's been posted before, but "minimalistic". Something can be minimal, a preference for such things is minimalist, but the product of a minimalist mindset is something which is MINIMAL not MINIMALISTIC-ESQUE-ISH-STYLE.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 01:37 (three days ago)
Especially if they've just thrown their toys out of their pram.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 05:32 (three days ago)
Something can be minimal, a preference for such things is minimalist, but the product of a minimalist mindset is something which is MINIMAL not MINIMALISTIC-ESQUE-ISH-STYLE.
Oh yeah, thinking that longer "versions" of words are just the same but fancier drives me nuts. Simplistic instead of simple, singular instead of single, minimalistic instead of minimal -- this doesn't make you sound smarter or more important.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:11 (three days ago)
simplistic means something very different from simple!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:19 (three days ago)
same for singular and single actually. this is a strange contention of yours trishyb!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 11:21 (three days ago)
I think that’s trishyb’s point?
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 12:04 (three days ago)
It is, yes.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 12:40 (three days ago)
see also: “within” as a fancier “in”
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 14:09 (three days ago)
lol duh apologies for misreading
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 15:13 (three days ago)
Elizabeth David, iirc, had the shit annoyed out of her by "crispy" when applied to food, because "crisp" is already an adequate adjective.
― fetter, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 15:44 (three days ago)
now i'm thinking way too much about apples vs bacon
― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 21 May 2025 16:11 (three days ago)
Body butter
― sarahell, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 21:31 (three days ago)
hmm, dunno what that is but I like it so far
― Ste, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 22:01 (three days ago)
Least favorite (mis)usage ever - "ON accident..." it's BY accident you fucking moron!!
...from 20 years ago. I hear more "on"s than "by"s these days.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 22 May 2025 04:24 (two days ago)
Please tell me that isn't true.
― Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 May 2025 05:38 (two days ago)
by purpose
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 May 2025 06:33 (two days ago)
Just as ‘ginger’ jumped borders thanks to the interwebs, a phrase like ‘on accident’ gains traction outside the American south/US black ppl because of online conversations. Midwestern interjections like ‘ope!’ (combined oops/excuse me) are probably next up.
― einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 22 May 2025 06:41 (two days ago)
The audacity of ope!
― zydecodependent (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 May 2025 08:42 (two days ago)
On accident makes sense to me tbh … but it’s an informal way of speaking, and I could understand being annoyed by it used in a more formal context, like writing.
― sarahell, Thursday, 22 May 2025 12:58 (two days ago)
I grew up in Minnesota in the early 80s and went back for college in the early 90s and either “ope” was so ubiquitous I never noticed it or its relatively recent. In any case it’s new to me.
― I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 13:15 (two days ago)
I believe the classic use case is "Ope lemme just scootch right past ya."
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:15 (two days ago)
I heard “scootch” a lot and use it myself!
― I am the stranger, killing the Boer (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:41 (two days ago)
I wasn’t aware that ‘ope’ was part of my vocabulary before reading these posts.
Just this morning, I’ve caught myself saying ‘Ope, sorry’ at least three times, typically when someone else is trying to scooch by me. Maybe this is the Canadian version.
― jmm, Thursday, 22 May 2025 17:53 (two days ago)
Heard some study years ago that basically every language has a version of 'huh', as in the mild acknowledgment of wonder. "Huh, I never heard that." And most of them sound like 'huh' It's the closest thing to a universal word
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 May 2025 17:57 (two days ago)