Alcohol: it really sucks now!

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I stopped drinking for quite a long while and only recently have had a few nights of drinking again.

It's pretty lame shit. I think it was only fun because I was used to it and therefore it seemed to take "the edge" off things. There is no edge.

There is an edge created, however, by alcohol. It stressed you out. Isn't a hangover caused by your body now being in a situation where it wants more alcohol and this is the reason why a little hair of the dog that bit you is good for curing hangovers? That's what my high school biology teacher said.

But, besides that edge (which is similar to cigarette addiction, btw) there is the edge of not being able to fucking think straight or talk while you're supposed to be having a good time. No wonder people get belligerant. It also pops the cork on any unresolved emotions you've got lying around.

This shit sucks. Boy, did I have a miserable night. And now I feel like there's violence in my head or something. Anything for a respite. I've been sitting here thinking "what's wrong with me? I feel so shitty. What can I do that will make me feel at peace?" and then I realized it's just the after effects of the booze. I can't think straight because my brain is currently recouperating from poison.

Drunk No More, Saturday, 8 October 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

minus one o in recuperating

Drunk No More, Saturday, 8 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

"Isn't a hangover caused by your body now being in a situation where it wants more alcohol"

No, it's mainly dehydration.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Saturday, 8 October 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't this just sound lovely?

Facts about Alcohol:

o The alcohol abuser often drinks to eliminate anxiety.
o Alcohol, in small amounts, acts as a stimulant.
o In large amounts alcohol acts as a depressant by paralyzing the body organs including the brain.
o When the brain is dehydrated and does not have the fluid to function, it causes the sensation referred to as a "hangover".
o Many alcohol abusers have problems regulating their blood sugar levels. Stabilizing blood sugar reduces the urge for alcohol.
o Alcohol increases the lactic acid levels.
o Animals made deficient in Vitamin B-complex preferred alcohol to water.
o Misuses cortisol and adrenaline causing adrenal burnout.
o Increases urination and dehydration.
o The person high in histamine tends to drink heavily.
o The person low in histamine tends to drink in binges.
o Family members of alcoholics may be addicted to sugar instead.
o Alcohol lowers melatonin preventing a full night's sleep.
o Over 70% of alcoholics have low blood sugar.
o Drinking 6 or more drinks a day for just two weeks, causes the small intestine to eliminate food from the body before the nutrients can be used. It causes malnutrition.
o Taking birth control makes it difficult to eliminate alcohol from the body.
o Alcohol lowers blood sugar that can cause behavioral changes.
o The cost due to alcohol consumption has been estimated to exceed $148 million a year in the United States.
o Heavy drinkers generally experience sharp and short-lived stimulation approximately 15 minutes after finishing a high dose of alcohol, while blood alcohol levels are still rising. They want to drink more while stimulated.
o Light drinkers tend not to experience this pleasant, stimulating sensation at any time after consuming a high dose of alcohol; instead, they are likely to report feeling sluggish and drowsy while their blood alcohol levels are increasing.
o The stress experienced when light drinkers consume a high dose of alcohol is revealed by increased blood levels of a stress hormone. Heavy drinkers tend to have relatively constant levels of this hormone.
o MEN: Alcohol causes atrophy (a decrease in size) in men’s testicles. Alcohol decreases the testosterone levels in males
o WOMEN: Alcohol is metabolized differently in women than it is in men, Alcohol reduces a woman’s sex drive and orgasm response. In regards to the absorption of alcohol in a woman's body, it has been found that due to woman's higher fat to water rate, women get drunk faster, stay drunk longer, and typically become seriously ill as a result of chronic alcoholism
o Alcohol Impairs a Woman's Reproductive Functions It has been found that alcoholism impairs the production and/or release of hormones produced in the ovaries, the hypothalamus and pituitary glands.
o Alcohol Impairs the Regulation of Blood Sugar Levels:Two hormones secreted from the pancreas, insulin and glucagon, regulate the constant flow of glucose in the blood. It has been found that heavy consumption of alcohol impairs the regulation of blood sugar levels, which may cause hypoglycemia, hyperglycemia, glucose intolerance, and diabetes.
o Alcohol seems to interfere with the liver’s ability to metabolize hormones, such as renin and angiotensin, which are important for maintaining blood pressure control.
{Washington Post Health, Feb. 10, 1987}
o Having one drink can cause acute liver inflammation. When the liver processes alcohol, the poison acetaldehyde is produced. Acetaldehyde, the primary metabolic product of alcohol in the liver, appears to be the key generator of free radicals. Acetaldehyde is more toxic to the body than alcohol itself
o Role of the Liver in Migraines:The liver plays a role in migraines. If this vital organ is overloaded with toxic substances, it can cause inflammation that triggers migraine pain.
o Chronic alcohol abuse can alter the hormones that regulate electrolyte and water balance in the body.
o Following a diet and vitamin program can help to lessen the symptoms of alcohol withdrawal and the urge to continue to drink.
o The typical American diet of chemical additives, refined foods and insoluble fats stresses the body and encourages drug and alcohol abuse as a form of internal stress relief.

Drunk No MOre, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cooptoons.com/clickgallery/gallery/Action%20Clipart/pics/Ac051701.gif

_, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

tho i guess i should welcome the return of scaredy cat/nude spock

_, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, I hate it when I get guilty hangovers, they're the worst. Sprawling hangovers of lying on the couch, watching Conan and ordering in food, tho, those are actually quite wonderful in their own way.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh holy shit, it's *that* guy???

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

x-post: "that guy" or not, this is interesting.

i took a break from drinking in august after one crushing hangover too many. i spent 32 days "dry" and quite enjoyed it; i've now begun drinking again, but moderation is my watchword. so far i've not had a single hangover, and that's how i intend it to stay.

for some 15 years i drank with the sole intention of getting mashed: i prided myself on being among the last people standing. i'm a small, thin guy and i'm not built for massive quantities of booze: therefore i often ended up making myself horribly ill. in the past 12 months or so, hangovers have gone from being a minor inconvenience into an absolute nightmare of pain and woe; one of them in august was so bad i actually wept. i've also found that, as i get older, getting absolutely whammed doesn't automatically lead to fun and excitement: instead it leads to me arguing with mrs fiendish/eating shit food in crap takeaways/not enjoying what i'm doing because i'm too busy trying not to be sick/watching my mates make absolute twats of themselves/etc.

i went out last night and took the car, so didn't drink. tonight i'm going out on what looks like it could be a mammoth bender. but my resolve is strong. i think i'm going to enjoy it a lot more if, instead of aiming simply to down as much beer/vodka/whisky/aftershock as possible, i take it easy, enjoy myself and - who knows? - maybe even sit a few rounds out.

of course, if i report here tomorrow with a stinking hangover, you can all laugh and point and call me a tool.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

http://images.unseelie.unseelie.us/church_lady.jpg
Doesn't this just sound lovely?

_, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

See, this is probably why my gran was a full-time alcoholic (even during pregnancy): she wanted to avoid the nasty side-effects. She actually looks a bit like the Church Lady. Only she isn't so niiiiice.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

tho i guess i should welcome the return of scaredy cat/nude spock

-- _ (...

Come again? "Return of"? Did you like those guys?

Drunk No More, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

fuck yeah i did, remember fubu for white ppl?

_, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

'i am blowing smoke up your, and possibly my own, ass'

_, Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Grimly Fiendish, I had similar experiences from 97-2001, I think. And briefly in 2002 and 2003, as I was basically tapering off and realizing that I was kind of sick of it, but occasionally forced to go out and drink socially with my girlfriend, which ended up disastrous as often as not. I haven't drank much at all for about 2 years. Although I didn't fully realize it, alcohol was my "in" to go out and meet people. I wasted quite a few of my good younger years that way, but lots of people do, so I don't feel too bad. Could've saved a lot of scratch and planned my future a bit better, though, instead of dropping $800/week on maintaining a perfectly lazy and chaotic lifestyle.

I don't know what to make of the bar scene. It seems like the people you meet under those circumstances aren't part of your life for very long, as everyone tends to settle down as they get a little older. Although, I do know a woman my age who still drinks like a fish and gets a lot of clients by going to/throwing parties and drinking. She just got back from Spain and is in Tokyo now! Another woman, who is currently at our house, is also my age and still drinks like a fish, but she embarrasses herself and blacks out. She was telling us how she made out with her married boss last week in front of half the firm at a bar and didn't remember it. So, the first night out with my gf and she's making out with some Irish dude at a bar. The next night, she was singing "Honky Tonk Woman" on stage with some cover band. As far as being embarrassing, though, I guess I beat her last night just by being miserable. Or at least I felt miserable. I guess I didn't start any fights or anything, but I didn't feel jolly and had the inkling I was bringing them down.

There were 2 incidents, however: my girlfriend gave me a hard time about throwing my broken umbrella on the sidewalk because it was the only truly "wrong" thing I'd done all night (should've put it in the trash can), but she wasn't pleased with the whole night's performance, so she chose this one incident to complain about. I basically waved her off and quickly shut her up by saying, "Aw, pffffucking give it a rest!"

Then, while I was lying in bed, I asked, "Hey how much was that bill? $123, right? So, I gave $60..." and she interrupts and says, "I'll give you the $10, I don't want to hear it!" All I was going to ask is if we gave the guy a $50 tip or something. I have no idea what she was talking about, but since she was so snippy with me, I said, "Why don't YOU get off MY computer, you presumptuous prick?!" She did and I rolled over and fell asleep.

Other than that, all I did wrong was to point out that the guy her sister is going to marry is an asshole that will probably end up cheating on her but she'll never know it or if she does find out, she'll put up with it because she wants to be perfect like the redhead on Desperate Housewives. This was not a good topic of conversation as this weekend is the bridal shower and I was with 2 people who were going to be celebrating it with her today, one of which (my girlfriend) planned the whole thing and really loves her sister. This is something I suspect of the big dope, but would never say sober.

And I wore headphones on the train ride home. And I walked a few feet in front of them everwhere instead of that annoying 3-person-wide casual stroll through tons of people. And I said I would feel stupid to post a picture of myself on a dating service, which this other woman had done and was in fact really into online dating services to the point where she is considering starting one.

All in all, a real swell time. It's odd though, neither woman is annoyed with me today. It's all in my head, I guess.

Drunk No MOre, Saturday, 8 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

"i am getting drunk as part of an internet study"

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 8 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

how bout just drinking less?

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 8 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

fuck yeah i did, remember fubu for white ppl?

ha ha who could ever forget?

O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Saturday, 8 October 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

link, please.

Drunk No More, Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Alcohol certainly sucks this morning, that's for sure.

giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

And why not just a FUBU for everyone except black people?

Drunk No More, Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Call it FEBB.

Drunk No More, Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

wtf is wrong w/ILx?! I login and then it logs me out as soon as I try to go to any boards

giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

ach, fuck it ... message boards, they're all the same ... fucking bitches ... here, have some o' this ... yer my besht mate, you know that? [vomits on shoes]

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 8 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Your *own* shoes, I hope!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 8 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

no, do it IN HER SHOES!

tehresa (tehresa), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

her shoes? But I'm a DUDE.

giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

http://static.ecb.co.uk/images/width220/pride-side-logo-237.gif

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Saturday, 8 October 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

hahaha omg Scaredy Cat is so awesome. I forgot about Meat For Millar!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Saturday, 8 October 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

So many places to go with this one...

Yeah, yeah, drinking too much will you feeling like utter ass, both short and long term. We know. Taking a break really isn't a bad idea. It's always a good idea to remember what straight feels like, and no, it can't hurt.

But getting annihilated is simply what you've got to do now and then. Drunk No More points out the favorable effects of alcohol vs. stress, and I won't contend the validity of said usage. I'm sure I've pulled the very same stunt. But we've failed to acknowledge the sheer joy of getting bent.

People are uptight for good reason. The world's a serious place, capable of snapping you in peices if you don't manage your life well. For this very reason, we sometimes need a little help losing our stuffy ol' inhibitions.

All great stories can be traced back to someone being drunk. I know you think you have other stories that are good, but they really aren't. People are just being polite when they nod their heads and say, "Really?"

Really.

You never would have jumped in the lake, you never would have danced like rich man, and you never would have kissed the girl if it wasn't for your always faithful, local liquor merchant.

He really should be on your Christmas card list.

tra_mendous, Saturday, 8 October 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Genius post.

paulhw (paulhw), Sunday, 9 October 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

No doubt.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 9 October 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

Tra_Mendous certainly makes a good point, but I wish I had more confidence and drank less booze. Alcohol used to make me feel less anxious around people, now I feel more anxious after drinking. I generally don't have a problem being around people in any capacity now. I've given public talks and I talk with clients regularly. In social situations I tend to talk a lot rather than clam up like I used to. In fact, sometimes I probably talk too much.

I almost think I used to be anxious because, like most people, I learned to drink when I was 15 or something. So I pretty much learned that any social situation requires alcohol, I guess. I can't even remember why I used to feel so self-conscious. It seems stupid now. I was much better with the ladies pre-15 pre-booze and I'm much better now post-booze. Guys are a different story... most guys can't talk or don't want to talk and fall into weird, uncomfortable conversations about obsessive topics like music or sports. And if there's girls around, it turns into a competition about who can talk to the girls the most and who can be the most entertaining dude there.

Drunk No More, Sunday, 9 October 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

I can make anybody pretty.
I can make you believe any lie.
I can make you pick a fight with somebody twice your size.
Well, I've been known to cause a few break-ups,
An' I've been known to cause a few births.
Well, I can make you new friends, or get you fired from work.

And since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg an' Bordeaux, France,
Been making the bars lots of big money,
An' helpin' white people dance.
I got you in trouble in High School,
But College, now that was a ball.
You had some of the best times you'll never remember with me:
Alcohol
Alcohol.

I got blamed at your wedding reception,
For your best man's embarrassing speech.
And also for those naked pictures of you at the beach.
I've influenced Kings and world leaders,
I helped Hemingway write like he did.
And I'll bet you a drink or two, that I can make you put that lampshade on your head.

'Cause since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg and Bordeaux, France,
I been making a fool out of folks just like you,
An' helping white people dance.
I am medicine and I am poison,
I can help you up or make you fall.
You had some of the best times you'll never remember with me:
Alcohol.

Yeah, since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg an' Bordeaux, France,
Been making the bars lots of big money,
(Helpin' white people dance.)
Yeah, I got you in trouble in High School,
But College, now that was a ball.
You had some of the best times you'll never remember with me:
Alcohol
Alcohol.

(Alcohol.)
(Alcohol.)
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.

To Fade.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

(this is OT, but that video has kind of weird, amateurish digital effects in it, as does the current Montgomery Gentry video, like Nashville just discovered CGI)(or maybe they're just all drunk down there)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Whoah! the truth be there.

DNM: Before and after booze are worlds apart, yet you haven't changed that much at all. Personality once lying dormant while in a hyper extended altered state is only now resurfacing. I've been there too. There is a point at which drinking really becomes a crutch. If I had known when that point was, if anyone knows, maybe then we would be better able to control our consumption. We all know someone who has irretrievably lost what they had. With luck, it isn't you.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)

Or me.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

http://tinypic.com/eg1wrr.jpg

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

When I look at that pic, I keep seeing Duke from Doonesbury.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 9 October 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but sadly Duke's still around and the good doctor isn't...

BTW, greetings from a fellow Vermonter Jim! Winooski is cold and quiet this evening.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 9 October 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

Cold, quiet, wet. But what a week of good weather up until last evening. Climbed a few peaks this week and got fired from one of my jobs. Feeling a bit like my old self. Greetings back at ya, Jay!

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 9 October 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

no hangover, incidentally. pretty crappy night, mind.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 9 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

"'Cause since the day I left Milwaukee,
Lynchburg and Bordeaux, France,
I been making a fool out of folks just like you,
An' helping white people dance.
I am medicine and I am poison,
I can help you up or make you fall.
You had some of the best times you'll never remember with me:
Alcohol."

Ha! That's funny, mothra.

I just want to say that I'm not condoning unwelcomed shitfacedness.

If people act like they think you're an asshole when you're drunk, it's likely because you're being an asshole. Chill, bro. If people act like that when you aren't drunk, then, well...

tra_mendous, Sunday, 9 October 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

All great stories can be traced back to someone being drunk.

This is horseshit and I've got significant amounts of people on this board who will vouch otherwise for me.

If you're that guy, well guess what? Your friends probably think you're an asshole when you're drunk. Surprise!

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm terribly sorry you took that so literally. Surely, that very statement would seem to angular humor.

You have heard of humor?

tra_mendous, Monday, 10 October 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Ha! That's funny, mothra.

Just repping for Brad Paisley.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

Scaredy Cat was/is Nude Spock?!? Wow I should pay more attention.

FYI, I was the guy who outed Nude Spock as Neuromancer by pointing out that recurring spelling error of his. I'm not sure if Scaredy Cat and I ever got along but if we did, sorry man, something about your early years just made me want to destroy you whenever possible, forever.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

On a related note, ILX is still way too pussy re: recalcitrance.

I had this urge to start an undesirable persona who would offend everybody, get shunned, then post some stupid cat picture, get reaccepted, then repeat that shit for two years. Fortunately for ILX, I care about white people.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

But to get on topic, alcohol is losing its appeal for me too, these days. First, I'm tactile-defensive to the point I carry a toothbrush in my car at all times, so at the point when regular people don't even realize they have bad breath, I'm so aware that I'm ready to go home, shower, brush, and come back crammed full of uppers.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Monday, 10 October 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

Scaredy Cat was/is Nude Spock?!? Wow I should pay more attention.

Not really.

FYI, I was the guy who outed Nude Spock as Neuromancer by pointing out that recurring spelling error of his.

I'm not sure, but I think the goal was to get found out.

I'm not sure if Scaredy Cat and I ever got along but if we did, sorry man, something about your early years just made me want to destroy you whenever possible, forever.

That doesn't sound like much of an apology to me.

Le Purr, Le Mew, Monday, 10 October 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

All great stories can be traced back to someone being drunk.

Search: 'Smashed: Australian Drinking Stories'; http://home.vicnet.net.au/~ozlit/mini9608.html (scroll down)

Destroy: http://www.tuckermax.com/

Sasha (sgh), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

Very resourceful link postage, Sasha. I'm genuinely impressed.

tra_mendous, Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210

oscar, Saturday, 8 January 2011 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

Prof Nutt told the BBC: "Overall, alcohol is the most harmful drug because it's so widely used.

summing it up. These studies are interesting but I always wonder if they're published w/ subliminal attempt to either legalize more drugs or ban alcohol to an extent. I read them and am just like "yeah - so?".

heh (kelpolaris), Saturday, 8 January 2011 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

subliminal attempt to either legalize more drugs or ban alcohol to an extent. I read them and am just like "yeah - so?".

A subliminal attempt by whom? The establishment wants neither of those things! Nutt is a rogue agent.

A brownish area with points (chap), Sunday, 9 January 2011 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

nude spock no more

am0n, Sunday, 9 January 2011 00:36 (fifteen years ago)

40 Drunkest US Cities

Gukbe, Sunday, 9 January 2011 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

not surprised la didn't make it but no new york??

fat sheets of rage (buzza), Sunday, 9 January 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)


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