alright fokkers, tell me about some psychedelic drone music

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my subject says it all, i've scratched the surface, but throw out whatever you think falls under this. All help will be rewarded 10 fold in the next life.

chacho0, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

anything? So like old stuff or new or both? Okay, well here are some ideas of things to check out:

Pentangle
Six Organs of Admittance
Linda Perhacs
GHQ
Vibracathedral Orchestra
Espers
Incredible String Band
La Monte Young
Faust
Amon Duuls 1 & 2
Tony Conrad
Charlemagne Palestine

um should I keep going?

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm, DRONE.

Elvis Telecom and various other to thread. At least include some Spacemen 3 in there too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

are there any David Hykes/Harmonic Choir fans on ilm? not exactly drone, but i love that stuff. i need more.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

sunroof!
sunroof!
sunroof!

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

that's like the one Ocora album I never buy. What's good about it?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

sunroof! are like your average "1-4 guys jamming with lots of boxes on guitars tuned w/ lots of drone strings" and fry it in the sun until it evaporates into a glittering orange heat haze, expanding softly and pillow-like

what is ocora?

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

oh sorry, vahid; that was x-post with Scott. But I've never heard Sunroof either, so that is helpful! It sounds up my alley.

Ocora is this record label primarily known for releasing a classic series of field recordings from across the globe. I guess I've always been wary of that Harmonic Choir record cuz it didn't seem to be the kind of thing they normally deal with (plus it is called Harmonic Choir).

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Sunroof, Total, Skullflower...glory.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Diamond, you missed the recent Vibracathedral Orchestra/Sunroof! tour (as did I). Probably be a while 'til they come back to the States.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the David Hykes record to die for: 'Hearing Solar Winds'. all overtone chorus moving slowly, one unbroken long movement that takes the time it needs.

'Current Circulation' is also good but doesn't go as deep. Two I'm unsure about: 'Windhorse Riders', 'True to the Times'. I haven't heard 'Harmonic Meetings' but I'd sure like to.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Earth
Steven Reich "Music for 18 Musicians"

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

also sunroof! has the lowest quotient of grown men banging on pots and pans of any free psych group (which doesn't exactly ruin it for me but it sometimes gets kitschy, like the manson tapes or something).

and there is a sunroof! side project called youngsbower which thins out the drone and adds nobukazu takemura-style blips and bloops to the party but in a way that's FUCKING GORGEOUSNESS

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

haha good call Shakey Mo (on Earth)

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd recommend other, earlier dronier Reich stuff than "Music for 18 Musicians." Also, Harley Gaber rocks.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

well then recommend away... that's the only one of Reich's I have.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks you all!! this all stems from two shows i saw last month: Jackie o motherfucker at the wire fest in chi-town and trad gras och stenar/No Neck blues band a few days later. these shows REALLY clicked with me.

so please name away, old is fine, new is better, but all is good :)

chacho0, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

sunroof thirded/fourthed - as is the hototogisu's _white wind of autumn_ cdr, also i suspect by bower and having more of that joyfully tinkly quality that is also present on the youngsbower release.

lately i've been enjoying makoto kawabata's _i'm in your inner most_ cd - basically it's just terry riley worship but since when is that a bad thing?

also, rotten piece! they played live at my station and i found it hard to believe such a thick black syrup of sound was created by a guy with a one-stringed broomstick and a girl with a homemade slide guitar...

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

chacho0, you might wanna check out the cd by egypt is the magick # - no-neck related stuff that also has a neat 70s cult/drone vibe to it, mostly guitars and crazed ranting.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Parson Sound (pre trad gras och stenar band) are amazing, also check out Harvester and International Harvester from the same scene
Terry Riley
Sunn O)))
Iancu Dumitrescu (Romanian composer, some of his stuff is mind exploding long-form drone doom)
Merzbow's "A Day Of Seals" 4cd box is more in the drone genre than usual, AND it's not that expensive AND it's 4 hours long!
some Ligeti (not sure which records you need there though - anyone?)
Phill Niblock
Rhys Chatham
Glenn Branca
some Iannis Xenakis, esp. "Persepolis" and "Kraanerg"
Hafler Trio
Zoviet France
EARLY Tangerine Dream (i.e. first 4 albums)
Ash Ra Tempel
Boredoms (later stuff)

and loads more I haven't thought of no doubt.

there's a LaMonte Young 2cd out at the moment, it's kind of a bootleg though I think so pick it up while you can!

udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post:

I'd say for early droney Reich you can't beat "Four Organs."

I also recommend: David Behrman, Bongloads of Righteous Boo, Sandy Bull, the Holger Czukay/Rolf Dammers "Canaxis" LP, Charalambides, early Rhys Chatham, Cluster, Philip Corner, Davis Redford Triad, The Dead C., Doldrums, Arnold Dreyblatt & The Orchestra of Excited Strings, Gas, CM von Hausswolff, Alan Licht, select Alvin Lucier, Angus MacLise, Phill Niblock, Nico, No Neck Blues Band, early Michael Nyman, Pearls Before Swine, Pelt, Terry Riley, R!!S!! aka Richard Youngs and Simon Wickham-Smith, Sandoz Lab Technicians, The Taj-Mahal Travelers, The Tower Recordings, :zoviet-france:.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Bardo Pond, Earth, Sun O))), Hale Zukas, Les Rallizes Denudes, Vibracathedral Orchestra, Flying Saucer Attack, Furaxsa, Urdog, Sunburned Hand of the Man, NNCK...

YNF: YES! Rotten Piece are fucking rad. I saw them with Nautical Almanac a while ago; they had a CDR boxed set for a relatively good price; it was like $60 and ten CDs or something.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)


the David Hykes record to die for: 'Hearing Solar Winds'


Yeah! that one i have. i love it. i don't know how you would classify them. just your average trippy choir making strange mouth sounds and recorded in a cave somewhere. but beautiful! and mind-altering.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Hale Zukas = meh. And not all that droney. Or psychedlic (unless you mean psychedelic to mean "they've got a few candles burning near their equipment.)

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Lee Ranaldo

udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hale Zukas = not psychedelic? What? They have krautrockish grooves and chanting and delay pedals!

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

great stuff mentioned upthread but no mentions of:

richard youngs
rafael toral
jim o'rourke (i'm thinking "happy days" here)
early fushitsusha

newer stuff:
the animal collective
black dice

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

they've got a few candles burning
near their equipment.)

i actually have a record of a guy playing the flute in the dark except for a candle to guide him. it's pretty stoned for candle-lit flute music, but he shoulda just tried it with all the lights out.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

do the animal collective make drone music? i don't know why i thought they were justa wacky indie rock band or something. are they really good?

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I mentioned Richard Youngs, gygax!.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The Animal Collective album "Campfire Songs" is very droney and excellent. And hstencil mentioned The Dead C, but I'd recommend particularly "Trapdoor Fucking Exit."

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

actually I think the best droney Dead C. record is Harsh 70s Reality but Trapdoor's good too.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Pentangle? Has made 'drone music'?

:0)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

there's elements of drone in what they do, yeah!

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not like the original question was all that specific.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

ALl of the Matt Bower-related bands are superb, and most are drone-oriented, at least somewhere in their catalogues. THis includes Skullflower, Hototogisu, Sunroof!, Total, Pure, and Youngsbower, most of whom are mentioned above & hereby seconded or whatevered. Also Skullflower-related is the excellent Ramleh. Maeror Tri, which has evolved into Troum, is terrific. Mirza, Omit, Tsurubami, Main, WIndy & Carl, Double Leopards, Birchville Cat Motel, Thuja, Surface of Eceon, and 1/3 Octave Band all have drone tendencies of varied character, and are worth checking out.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Charalambides can not be mentioned enough here

double leopards new shit (Halve Maen) on Eclipse is worth checking out. Speaking of DL, they will be in DC on Saturday at some bar in Adams Morgan

Armpit from NZ is what is currently rocking the shit out of me

towards the more Hanson/American Tapes side of things, Dead Machines is making my head spin with their ridiculous concoction of Organic Synths and ridiculous pedal work.

Wolf Eyes - Slicer is a good place to start as well

Six Organs. Thank you Sir Chasy.

Jack Rose's - Red Horse, White Mule is 12 String fury.

Pelt. Pelt. Pelt.

brock (brock), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i second jack rose solo!! that's some great stuff from a great guy. a lot of this stuff hits me right where i live. and now i have new stuff to look for too. thanks, everyone.all i need to hear is that Iancu Dumitrescu makes good "long-form drone doom" and i'm on it like white on rice!

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack Rose's solo stuff isn't nearly as good as the dead guy he's copying.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

saw jack rose w/sunroof and vibracathedral in philadelphia a while back; his fahey-aping prompted my friend to remark, "why doesn't he just prop up fahey's fucking corpse on stage next to him?"

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Great Cthulhu, this question has been asked a hundred times already:

A Beginners Guide To : Dronerock/Spacerock/Post-rock/Shoegazing
The Perfect Drone: Search and Destroy
A Plea for Suggestions - Night of the Living Drone
Dronerock - S/D
wanted: ambient/drone/transcendental rock
Drone, drone, clank, flutter

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Stars of the Lid

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, looks like I will definitely pick up that Hykes/Harmonic-Choir record the next time I see it. I dunno why I always passed over it ... i thought maybe i detected a faint whiff of the dreaded 'new age' or something...

stence, Operation of the Sonne is the best droney Dead C record! The 25 minute side-long track "Air" is pure drone bliss. Actually I never heard their 2 self-released CDs, so maybe those are ever dronier.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

well truth be told I like all Dead C. stuff but Harsh 70s Reality just seems to be the pinnacle (haven't heard the new one yet).

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Fokkers? Fokkers? Where are the RAF?!?!?

kate (kate), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

C.C.C.C.
Organum(esp. 'Ikon')
Nurse With Wound's "Soliloquy For Lillith"

There's a collaborative project between Masonna and one of the guys from C.C.C.C.--I think the name is Space Machine. Thick, shiny and acidic.

Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

>Iancu Dumitrescu

places to start:
ED MN 1001 ('medium III', lava flow on cover),
ED MN 1003 ('pierres sacrees', bright yellow starcluster on cover),
ED MN 1005 ('galaxy', purple milky way on cover).
I also like ED MN 1002 for Ana-Maria Avram's 'zodiaque', which is really nice. Reminds me of Eliane Radigue's work, who's 'TRILOGIE DE LA MORT' also belongs on this list.

Dumitrescu's recent releases don't stun me quite as senseless as the three mentioned above (ED MN 1010 and higher). I'm not exactly selling any of them back, but the ones above are the ones I'm playing over and over.

>Hykes/Harmonic-Choir record the next time I see it. I dunno why I always passed over it ... i thought maybe i detected a faint whiff of the dreaded 'new age' or something...

with the later records, you'd have been right; he does get unlistenably precious. Also when it's just solo voice, the results are far more grounded. 'Hearing Solar Winds' is insane, though; when it's a full chorus creating a rising wall of overtone harmonies, it can get hard to remember that you're listening to music.

One more thing to mention: side one of Anthony Moore's 'Songs from the Cloudland Ballroom'. A wall of syllabic chanting recorded at Faust's studio in 1971. A weird middle ground between Stockhausen's 'Stimmung' (probably a conscious influence) and Amon Duul's 'Psychedlic Underground', with a bit of Sacred Harp singing thrown in.

And speaking of Sacred Harp.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Magnog!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez guys, i just don't think this is enough to get me started. just kittin'. i will now spend the next 50 years ordering music to my cave and droning out. Thanks again, y'all rule, i appreciate it!!

chacho0, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, and Subarachnoid Space were really really great until their most recent album. Blargh.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

what's blargh about the new subarachnoid? just curious, i haven't heard it, but have been meaning to. i love all of the previous albums.what's it sound like?

scott seward, Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Assuming there hasn't been one newer than Also Rising, it's just really boring and poorly produced; everything bleeds together, and the sound isn't very dynamic.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 6 November 2003 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, that kind of describes how i feel about most subarachnoid space. they come on now and again, but i never really enjoyed their stuff until i saw them live.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 6 November 2003 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

buy inacu CDs and post abt it on my thread:

Iancu dumitrscu and Ana Maria Avram: C/D, S/D

Seeing Niblock, palestine and reich have to ask: what makes 'em psychedelic because I think the q is asking abt a branch of rock music (that's the way it seems).

Never really got into sunroof!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It works best if listened to very, very loud. With the volume cranked you
can hear the dynamics between the dual guitarists, the creeping bass, and the
precise, pummeling beats. Kept down low, the album is a bit of a bore.


HAH! the above is from the amg review of Also Rising.I think the album i like the most is Endless Renovation. but i like all the stuff i have.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 November 2003 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

No-one mentioned The Vuh yet? Tut tut.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 November 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
Taurpis Tula are brilliant.

Ned Beauman (NedBeauman), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

Theres 3 Neds on ILX now?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I think there are four.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

Soon you will be having your own thread to yourselves.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

ILNed

cnwb (cnwb), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

A vision.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot believe that people haven't mentioned YELLOW SWANS. They're like the Acid Mother's Temple of drony noise.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah they're pretty great, only heard them for the first time this year.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Drift Yellow Swans" is purdy good

CDDB (Dan Deluca), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

If it is consciousness expanding drone that you seek, Eliane Radigue's 3 CD set "Trilogie de la Mort" is essential.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)


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