Forgotten Seventies UK Rock Bands S/D

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Patto - 'Hold Your Fire'
The Enid - 'In the Region of the Summer Stars'
Groundhogs - 'Split' and 'Thank Christ For the Bomb'
Budgie - 'Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Man - 'Back Into The Future'
Camel - 'The Snow Goose' 'Rain dances'
Caravan - 'In The Land Of Grey And Pink'
Wishbone Ash - 'Live Dates' 'Four'


Destroy-
Braclay James Harvest.

Raindancer, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Wishbone Ash!

Were Greenslade English?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

They were Slade. They were Green.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Patto rules.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I 3rd Wishbone Ash! Argus is a great album. Totally recommend that.
Theres a recent Groundhogs thread IIRC.

F Ambrose, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hardly forgotten but I couldn't not mention Roxy Music, VDGG and King Crimson.

F Ambrose, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Caravan is hardly forgotten in my world. But I guess it is a lonely world sometimes.

southern lights (southern lights), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Search Racey.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

also, not always rock (sometimes definitely more folk), but I'd include Comus on that list as well.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Enid, eh? some Seventies UK Rock Bands are best forgotten.

search: Cressida, Clear Blue Sky, Clark-Hutchinson Band.
destroy (with extreme prejudice): The Enid

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I have Cressida's "Asylum", and it's far worse than the enid.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

fiddlesticks! Asylum is one of the best albums of the '70s.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

However, if you LIKE both the Enid and Man...

Search: The Neutrons - Black Hole Star

briania, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh rubbish like all "collectable" vertigo swirls, it has one good track on it, and that's not as good as the one good track on "gracious!" (which at least takes up nearly a side)

"six pieces" and "touch me" by the enid are great.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

were Ayers Rock British? (the name suggests otherwise, but you never know). I heard a fab track by them yesterday.

Search (a bit too prog- or jazz-rock for some, maybe, but i liked): Argent, Colosseum II

Destroy: all pub rock bands

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

'Destroy: all pub rock bands '


except for Dr Feelgood.

Raindancer, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray for Dr Feelgood, Brinsley Schwarz, Matthews Southern Comfort, McGuinness Flint, Quiet Sun, Rustic Hinge, Dark, Trees, Procul Harem...

Destroy: Sailor, Darts, Racey...

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Search Family. 'Music In A Dolls House' is rather fabbo.
Any Tony McPhee(Groundhogs) or Deke Leonard (Man) albums worth searching?

Raindancer, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Search The Pink Fairies.

Raindancer, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Destroy: Sailor, Darts, Racey...
Nooooo! They're great, if stretching the definition of 'rock' a bit.

But, if we're including chart-pop-rock, search: Blackfoot Sue

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Matchbox!

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Smokie - ugggh!

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Any votes for the Strawbs? I don't really know them. Sandy Denny has got to be a big plus, but Rick Wakeman is (surely) a huge minus.

What I've heard of Atomic Rooster was great. Where do I start with them?

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, uh, Medicine Head?

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Procol Harum is a very underrated group, especially considering they had one of the most popular singles of the late 60s.

Other than "Hold Your Head Up", I don't think I have ever heard any other songs by Argent. Being such a fan of 'Odessey & Oracle', I have been curious about Argent and if their music.

I was suprised to realize that Free recorded six studio albums, I figured they only had a couple. They are a band that I would like to check out some of their albums.


earlnash, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes Procol Harum. My spelling was way off. Then again, so was their's.

This is making me remember a whole bunch of stuff I always mean to check out - the Deviants, Third Ear Band, Stackwaddy...

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Pink Fairies seconded. Patto thirded. And Free. Not that Free are forgotten exactly, but they don't nearly get their due.

M Specktor, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Any votes for the Strawbs? I don't really know them. Sandy Denny has got to be a big plus, but Rick Wakeman is (surely) a huge minus.

Ghosts and Grave New World are probably their best (they went through various phases). The album with Sandy Denny is a lost gem (her voice was at an apex then). Wakeman was actually very restrained while he was in the Strawbs; it was pre-Yes, pre-solo career.

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The Strawbs are hardly a forgotten band at my house! Sandy Denny and Rick Wakeman are probably not the most accurate points of reference to get the feel of what the Strawbs were all about -- neither ultimately played a major role in the band (although the early recordings with Sandy are often quite beautiful). "Hero & Heroine" is probably my favorite, though, as Joe pointed out, they went through several phases, with high points to recommend all of them.

briania, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: All Free albums! They are great. They are remembered I'm afraid as sorta proto-cockrock by people who only know the singles, but all the albums have devastatingly beautiful tracks on them. Long, dreamy folk-rock tracks that make me swoon. Not that I don't like the rockin' stuff too, but they were much more than that.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

'Destroy: all pub rock bands '


Ducks Deluxe were great!!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What I've heard of Atomic Rooster was great. Where do I start with them?

First album, drummer was Carl Palmer. Uncredited guitar by John DuCann. Many of the songs are powerful dirges to depression and mental illness, Vincent Crane writing about what he knew very well. "Banstead" is wonderful: "Please get me out of this place..." wails the inmate at the mental decrepitude home.

"Death Walks Behind You" and "In Hearing of Atomic Rooster" are also top shelf in the Rooster catalog.

Crane changed the personnel of the band quite a bit and it often caused radical shifts in Rooster's atmospherics. "Made In England" with Chris Farlowe, for example, is almost completely unlike any other Atomic Rooster album. It's a recording of a twisted r&b soul brother band, sort of...

Most of the anthologies, and there are lots, are good. Often they contain material from the 80's when Crane reorganized Atomic Rooster to try and tap some of the fans of British heavy metal.

I'm really hard-pressed to find an Atomic Rooster record that I don't like, if only in parts.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Stretch and Stray. Stretch -- "Elastique," although "The Story of Elmer Gantry," a box set, is the one that cherry picks the band's best material.

Stray -- "Suicide."

And, as has been mentioned, Stackwaddy. "Bugger Off" -- very raw, fuzzy and squawling guitar r&b with a singer who sometimes aped Beefheart.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been waiting on someone mentioning Be Bop deluxe. Always wanted to check out them and Bill Nelson's solo stuff. Where to start?

Raindancer, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been waiting on someone mentioning Be Bop deluxe. Always wanted to check out them and Bill Nelson's solo stuff. Where to start?

Now you've opened a can of worms. Some BeBop haters and fans on here. I was a big fan of "Sunburst Finish" and "Futurama" which were the band's loudest records. Bill Nelson's "Red Noise" was also worthwhile -- jagged, scratchy guitar pop tunes, cold and bleak in execution.

And then I checked out. Bill Nelson has apparently done lots and lots of quirky solo records, some of which tend to appear in clumps in the local store.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always had a thing for Fox - "S-S-S-Single Bed"

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I 2nd the recommendations of Atomic Rooster (Death Walks Behind You is better, heavier, than In Hearing Of..; sorry, Chuck), Stray, Stackwaddy, and Colosseum. Actually I've only heard The Grass is Greener by Colosseum but it's a good'un.

I've only heard the first MEdicine Head album, but it's a real personal favorite. Guitar and drums duo, just like Doo Rag and the White Stripes! Really sparse and atmospheric the way they did it, though. Very pleasant. I guess on later albums they became a full quartet or something, but who needs to hear that?

I think Raindancer has the wrong Man album; Be Good to Yourself Once A Day is the one to get. WAit, I take that back, they're pretty much all good. I've only heard Deke's Iceberg but it's cool. It's kind of just good-timey rock though; not on a par with the Man stuff. Oh and get all three Help Yourself albums, of course.

Other festival bands - Skin Alley, first two albums pretty great. Last two Stax-era lps fairly forgettable. Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come! Third World War! Tractor! Ancient Grease! Jericho! Quatermass / HArd Stuff!!

There are lots of threads in the archives on stuff that maybe one or two people posted to. Here's a few that died pitiless deaths-

The Strawbs C/D
Spooky Two: Classic or Dud?
Atomic Rooster...C/D?

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

POX: Budgie

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Tear Gas. Alex Harvey Band pre-Alex. First, "Piggy Go Better" is pastoral and folky, not predictive of second which is a peg-the-volume-needle hard rock explosion. The guitar is mixed way loud and heavy, the songs are fractured woman-hating stuff. And it's all very lessee-if-we-can't-get-Zal-to-make-us-soud-even-mightier-than-Jimmy-or-Jeff.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"They are remembered I'm afraid as sorta proto-cockrock"

That mantle is Humble Pie's all alone, which is kind of suprising considering how acoustic their early records sound.

earlnash, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Hustler's "Play Loud." Suitably woman-hating smashmouth boogie, song delivered in short to medium length shouts. The kind of band, if they'd been pushed on the undercard in arenas throughout the US heartland, would have been motivated by the fan response to move to Texas.

Someone should remaster or make a bootleg CD-R copy at once! First Hustler album was also good but had more a party-down-at-the-fighting-bar vibe.

And Nutz -- first album, a dry mix of finely underproduced hard rock with the oddly sung pop tune for spice.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Dumpy's Rusty Nuts. "Box Hill or Bust."

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

George do you have the Bedlam record? Cozy Powell fans unite!! There's a great drum break on there that some hip-hopper should have sampled, back when they used to sample.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes I do. Bedlam was a treasure. I loved the utter screeching rage of it, particularly the first cut. There was a CD made of Bedlam out-takes that was up and down quality except for a live-in-a-US-college-studio thing which was pretty fine if you're tolerant of everyone getting a ten minute solo.

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I've got that CD! You're right - it's decent, but it just didn't hit me like the LP did. I was really excited when I saw there was a 20 minute cut on there (thinking this was their long-lost prog epic, unearthed) until I realized it was largely a solo-fest. I knew I couldn't be the only guy that collected Bedlam bootlegs. We are sick men, George.

Thanks for that Stretch recommendation, too. I've never heard 'em, but I'm definitely going to seek out some stuff. Thank god for the Repertoire label.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Search :
Sensational Alex Harvey Band
Keith Relf's post Yardbirds band Armageddon
Black Widow
Money
Gnidrolog
UK

Destroy :
Badger
most Wishbone Ash
Bruford

udu wudu (udu wudu), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Rory Gallagher qualify as forgotten? No? OK, Robin Trower.

But what this thread really needs is someone to read out the names of these bands in suitably portentous tones after this.

Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always liked the little Stackridge that I've heard; George Martin-produced English whimsy pop-rock. Very interesting to note that IIRC the two main people in Stackridge - Davis and Warren - went onto form The Korgis... a lineage from Beatles/Bonzo Dog Band-type stuff into electro-pop.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Keith Relf's post Yardbirds band Armageddon

I hope all the usual suspects read the great piece on Armageddon in the last Ugly Things. I'm looking at you, George, Broheems, and Udu.

(although they weren't strictly U.K.)

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Any of the Pretty Things albums worth checking out from the seventies?(actually i've never heard the 60s stuff either so recommend away)

Raindancer, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The remastered version of "Freeway Madness" isn't bad. "Remember That Boy," "You Know It Isn't Rock 'n' Roll" and "Under the Volcano" are good from "Savage Eye." I skipped "Silk Torpedo."

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, there's a Repetoire 3 CD box on the Pretty Things that covers the band's singles. Since it goes from the beginning of the career to the bitter end before recent reformation, it's inclusive and has about everything you'd want. So the Dick Taylor raunch garage r&b is on it, some of the things from "Parachute" and "SF Sorrow," and the in-between stuff as the band tried to morph into a hard rock boogie band on Swan Song.

And, yeah -- Scott, I did read the Ugly Things special on Armageddon. Everything you ever wanted to know and then even a whole lot more!

George Smith, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Raindancer, if you have never heard S.F. Sorrow and Parachute please do yourself a favor and buy them tomorrow! Savage Eye is cool and Silk Torpedo has its moments, but I wouldn't say they are as essential as the 60's stuff. Get yerself the S.F./Parachute era b-sides comp with "Defecting Grey" and all that other good stuff on it. That is essential. And all the pre-acid garage/beat stuff is wonderful if you ask me.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Search : Babe Ruth - the Mexican

David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Search : Babe Ruth - the Mexican

search the whole album! The whole thing is great. and search their other stuff too, while yer at it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And search Wild Turkey while you are at it. And some Tucky Buzzard for the hell of it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: Illusion

I heart Jane Relf!

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

haven't heard of Wild Turkey or Babe Ruth.

Raindancer, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Pretty Things' "Parachute" is a better record than the far more touted "S.F. Sorrow," frankly. But I'd get 'em both, immediately.

M Specktor, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I kinda lean toward Parachute myself actually, but they are both great.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Went into some second handshops but they wanted £25 for a TS Mcphee lp.

Raindancer, Friday, 7 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll third the Man rec, but I'll mention Rhinos, Winos and Lunatics as the LP to get; thirty years after I first heard it I still love it (though I haven't heard either of the two mentioned here so maybe I should check them out).

Also a shout out to the Canterbury groups, Hatfield and the North, National Health, and Egg (who may not qualify as Cant.)

nickn (nickn), Friday, 7 May 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

obscure prog-rock supergroup

UK [featuring Eddie Jobson Bill Bruford John Wetton Allan Holdsworth Terry Bozzio]

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=&sql=Afd5gtq4ztu47

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 7 May 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

So was Sweet not mentioned until now because:
a) they are NOT considered forgotten?
b) they were TOO forgotten?
c) everyone wants to forget them?

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Dunno if The Sweet are forgotten or not(i doubt it) but a little known fact is that the bands scottish singer was infact a half brother of Mark McManus (of Taggart and Skippy The Kangaroo fame)

Rock Bastard, Saturday, 8 May 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF are Ducks Deluxe?
Ducks Deluxe

Raindancer, Saturday, 8 May 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

That U.K. debut album is available only on Japanese import for $35 as far as I can tell. I want it, but not that badly. Yet. Argh, I'm an addict. Will try to download a copy first.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 22 February 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

Or you can pick it up on vinyl for about £2 everywhere.

Matt #2, Friday, 22 February 2008 23:07 (seventeen years ago)

Edgar Broughton Band

m0stlyClean, Friday, 22 February 2008 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

Pilot gotta be in there.

(And BJH were great through 1977)

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 23 February 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)

the first side of the 2nd Free album is absolutely one of the best 20 minute British hard rock moments of all time. Now, what the other, say, top 5 albums would be is up for debate ( sure Zep and Sab would be repped...)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/319Y6HT3TWL._SS500_.jpg

god DAMN does this album slay all comers

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 23 February 2008 07:19 (seventeen years ago)

The cover's one of my all-time favourites, I'll give you that

Jeff W, Sunday, 24 February 2008 20:25 (seventeen years ago)


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