what is the point of bloc party and franz ferdinand when i still have all my old post punk records?

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i see no use for their like.

― indiehater, Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

yawn

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Better mastering.

― djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, maybe some of new kids do it better than the old fogeys? Lord knows Gang Of Four never wrote a song as catchy as "Take Me Out."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

catchiness is absolutely not an indicator of quality. in any case, damaged goods (not to mention to hell with poverty, i love a man in uniform, i found that essence rare, etc) is not only as catchy to my ears as take me out but proof that you don't have to sacrifice substance to have a singalong.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Lord knows Gang Of Four never wrote a song as catchy as "Take Me Out."

:::splutter::: WHAT!?!? ::::splutter::::

I'll take "Damaged Goods" and/or "To Hell with Poverty" over "Take Me Out" any damn day of the week.

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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, let the kids have their fun why don't you?

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

>what is the point of bloc party and franz ferdinand when i still have all my old post punk records?

Because as we all know here on ILM, new is better. Old is for the weak and frightened.

Seriously, lots of this new stuff (FF, Rapture, Hot Hot Heat, first Liars disc) is good. The Bravery need to be dropped in a very deep, dark hole, though. One Jack Whatsisface (from TSOL) was enough; we don't need a new one fronting a bad indie-disco band with Beatle/Jet haircuts.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Damaged Goods" is just as catchy as "Take Me Out." I love both.

It's not a question of whether or not the kids do it better, but the fact that people buy albums that are new and advertised in larger quantities than albums that are obscure and perhaps out of print. Question is what's the point of the half of your collection of old post-punk that isn't as good as the other half? and what about the lesser half of that half? and why do you have more than one old post-punk record?

And Franz Ferdinand has just as much substance as Go4. "Romance is dead, blame capitalism, I hate my pee-pee" vs. "Romance is dead, let's fuck anyway, c'est la vie!". They reference Terry Wogenheim you know.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Entertainment is a better album than Franz Ferdinand though.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict no one will remember or care about FF in 3 years.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not saying ff are stupid (they're very far from it), but i don't see it even being an issue that damaged goods is more lyrically complex than take me out.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

.. because there was no eye catching video for "Damaged Goods"

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ye gods

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah. i think it's time for my coffee break.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

alright, I'll admit lyrical complexity

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Like I'm about to buy a record because it's "lyrically complex"!

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

is the franz ferdinand album better than the rapture album, cuz i didn't really like the rapture album that much except for the two (non-hit) hits. hey, remember the rapture!?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, they're great!

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the bloc party? do they wear suits? are they better than the monochrome set? are they as half as good as kissing the pink?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i will have to hear the FF album someday then. I want to like new wave bands.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

did you like inxs?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

bloc party are fairly big and bombastic and melodic for the scene they're lumped in with. i quite like them, but anyone expecting a postpunkangulardiscowhatever experience is going to be disappointed. but the monochrome set are better, duh.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think FF's better but I thought the rapture guy (or guys, fuck if I could detect two distinct singers but people say so) couldn't sing for shit. There's no techno but a lot more Kinks/Raiders shit, better lyrics and no bad ballads.

You heard the new Hives and wanted the Remains, right Scott? You'll probably think of some Nuggets band who did this better even though the modern band incorporates some post-punk shit in there (Hives got some Devo with the Remains and FF throw More Songs About Buildings And Food in there)

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

miccio very otm.

― deej., Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict no one will remember or care about FF in 3 years.

and? so? was 1986 a big year for Gang of Four?

― NRQ, Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only heard three Bloc Party songs. Only one, "Banquet," is really this type of thing but anybody who's heard the old shit won't find anything new. FF at least have some polish and a more dandyish persona.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddly enough I have Franz Ferdinand and Tyrannousaurus Hives on a CD-R with the Fall's "Sparta," Sahara Hotnight's "Who Do You Dance For" and Grandaddy's "Stray Dog & The Chocolate Shake." Sometimes I want to call the CD Anthony's Totally Awesome Mix CD no. 5 or something. It rules.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

and? so? was 1986 a big year for Gang of Four?

Put it this way, when Andy Gill was producing the first Chili Peppers' album and they told him they were all big Go4 fans he said, "Oh come, nobody likes/liked the Gang of Four"... or words to that effect

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"did you like inxs?"

yeah, i liked INXS okay. in their earlier new wavier incarnation and their later shinier version.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I was saying in the pub last night that attacking mainstream indie rock for a lack of innovation or even originality is largely the equivalent of attacking hip-hop for lacking melody or criticising the lack of musicianship in Aqua records. It isn't the point, it isn't what the band themselves are trying to do and it isn't what the audience is listening for.

I reckon personality and content are far more important these days and as long as you have those two things in large enough quantities (ideal example being Pulp) then you can pull everything else off.

One of the major problems I have with The Strokes, Interpol, even Franz Ferdinand is that by and large there is no personality shining through. Its like an entire scene of Casts and OCS's.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

how come nobody wants to sound like Shriekback?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

someone should cover all lined up by shriekback.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

'cos they sold fuck all records

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

There's plenty of personality. Julian Casablancas is a very tired ass-man, Paul Banks is a passive-aggressive ass-man, Alex Kapranos gets giggly about being an ass-man.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i'm a latent strokes fan. i was listening to some magazine comp not long ago and a strokes song came on and it sounded really good to me.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

maria really likes the new interpol. i haven't heard that one either yet.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

matt, surely it's more like criticizing hip-hop for lacking innovation, or aqua for lack of innovation? why does indie get a free pass not to innovate?

i'll admit that i can't keep up with any kind of innovation, but when i *did* was when cast, ocs, etc, were running things; and i don't find ff's late-60sisms any more interesting than ocs' mid-60sisms ('take me out' is probably as good as 'the day we caught the train').

but then i'm not totally won over by all the love for post-punk: surely a lot of this stuff is fashionable now *because* of the imitators. go4 haven't been canonical for that long, and i can easily see them slip back into semi-obscurity.

― NRQ, Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex Kapranos's attitude is not anticipated by Gang of Four, sorry. And what is the point of Gang of Four when you can listen to James Brown and Funkadelic, or read Marx, Gramsci, or Althusser? That second question is about as thoughtful as this thread is.

― Chairman Wao, Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict no one will remember or care about FF in 3 years.

-- Bimble...

you know how many people must've said that about Go4 originally too?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope Monochrome Set don't reunite and open for Franz Ferdinand or something.

Can we talk about their first two singles on Rough Trade for a sec? They're perfect. I think those singles are better than Bloc Party and FF's entire output combined.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

ok ok

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

/hyperbole

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the major problems I have with The Strokes, Interpol, even Franz Ferdinand is that by and large there is no personality shining through. Its like an entire scene of Casts and OCS's.

see i think this can be applied to Girls Aloud too, i don't see their personalities really coming through in the music, which is otherwise sparky well produced, written and orchestrated pop.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

OK first THREE singles.

/internal debate

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

An entire scene of Ocean Colour Scenes and entrie cast of Casts. Believe me, there was no major personality in Gang of Four

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Personality cults were right out for one!

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck althusser! but yeah otherwise mao OTM.

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I think GA have more personality than FF. All FF geez does is raise his eyebrows like he's above all this in the videos. the aloud have well-differentiated personas, but not in a naff programmatic way (like the spice girls). how does FF's bass player's 'personality' come over in the tunes?

― NRQ, Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

of course with GA there's a more intended selling of 'personality' because they're girl pin-ups adorning many more magazine covers than aforementioned male guitar bands. you might say that 'personality' matters more with an act like GA than it does for Interpol, or that the personality GA attempt to sell is by default (or just based on your own stance/preference) more appealing than that revealed by Interpol or Radiohead or whoever. but i don't think GA do it well, certainly not when you look back to Spice Girls - not that GA should be trying to mimic them.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

because they're girl pin-ups adorning many more magazine covers than aforementioned male guitar bands

actually this may not be true either, but all we've got here is men who like current pop generally more than current indie saying that GA have more 'personality' than male guitar bands...and i'm not sure how you can really back that up

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

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I love GO4- I hear that FF song and I think "this is the coolest new music I have heard in many a year"- this thread is making me want to hear more FF!

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 March 2005 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm way late as usual...

but i think the problem with all of This Stuff (the neo nu new wave, that, as everyone has said, doesn't sound much at all like Go4) is that it's bringing back a certain sound, or set of sounds, but not the method that went into making them.

this is what's underneath the "it's not innovative"/"innovation schminnovation" back-and-forth: the post-punk outfits, whatever they did, they did in the present (and all this history gets compressed, and i don't know it with any detail anyway). so let's take the standard line about post punk, it was rock with rock stuff subtracted, or black american or african stuff tacked on, or tried, or some kind of "conversation" attempted with "funk" or "the dancefloor" or "technology."

well, what would it really mean, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT MAKING A RECORD that did all that, only with all those terms translated to what's around us now? would it sound like Franz Ferdinand, or what? no one seems to think so.

if there is one point of forgiveness, i think it is that the post-punk Moment is pretty great! i mean, ESG playing before Larry Levan! the sense of, i dunno, more permeable borders, something...

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

well said.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

while i have everyone's attention i've been listening a lot to the only 5 songs by FAMILY FODDER that i could find.

FAMILY FODDER ARE GREAT TELL ME MORE ABOUT FAMILY FODDER.

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

what i'm arguing is that we keep being told, maybe because it was true, and i believe that it was, that the 78-84 moment was OPEN, and now things are CLOSED, right, so, what do we do?

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

We make great postmodern art, that's what we do! And let's not romanticize too much about this idea that things were better when they were open than they are now that they're closed. The Japanese psychedelic band Ghost is very postmodern (everything is very period-referential) and they put out an album last year that was a massive triumph.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's pretty unconvincing frankly; p-p was pomo the first time around. grandmaster flash, keith haring, neuromancer, "once in a lifetime," this is the stuff "postmodernism" was built to describe.

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm talking about a developed postmodernism in which there is no longer any sense of artistic progress (and there certainly was a sense of artistic progress in post-punk) and in which attention is focused solely on stylistic referentiality.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

To me, the Three O'Clock, for one example, was far more postmodern than Public Image Limited or something. Not that I want to get into a semantic debate with you about the term. I was just trying to answer your question.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I see a lot of modernist tendencies in post-punk, actually. The idea that deconstructing the music allowed for an opportunity for New Art (seen as a type of artistic progress in the same sense that Kandinsky or Schoenberg was considered to be artistic progress).

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, i get you. but i'm not really interested in "progress" so much, if we mean "our stuff right here being just better than it used to be."

i'm being selfish. i just want my moment, i guess, i want the present to feel like it's worth something. it's not a totally healthy impulse. or at least, i want to feel like, when the message comes down that says "this is the thing," i can more-than-half believe it. i was BORN in 1978 for christ's sake. and no rave for me, i grew up in iowa. so, boo hoo.

i'm romanticizing postpunk's "openness" i'm sure (and like i said i know fuck all really), but stuff like FF just makes me kind of sad more than anything! what once was a sense of possibility is now: there they go in their dark ties, ticking off however many of this list of already-solidified options. and then there's the response, "well it is pretty catchy." it's not enough.

if i recall reynolds and mark s had a big go-round on this point a while ago. wanting your moment = rockist, probably.

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and it's political too! FF wouldn't make me sad if i didn't live and work in the ground zero of their target demographic. Ronan's point about it being required to have an opinion every time one of these bands comes around is really good. i mean, these are my people! i already feel pretty lousy about the long-term prospects of the godless urban bourgeois left, the state of their cultural products better NOT be the barometer i fear it is...

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

and i'm coming down harder on nu-new wave more than i wanted to. i like the strokes a lot, and the rapture, and the first liars record, and and and... all this complaining about history sidesteps how "well done" the music can be. well it is pretty catchy.

― f--gg (gcannon), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(geoff, re: family fodder -- pick up that Savior Faire collection that ILXor Douglas released! totally essential head-smacking goodness. and only $10! a real public service -- http://www.darkbelovedcloud.com/ )

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wow! I didn't know Douglas released that. I LOVE that album.

― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Friday, 4 March 2005 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i want to hear more Family Fodder too. 'Savoir Faire' is good.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 4 March 2005 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Watch a Target or a iPod commercial or something sometime and tell me there's no way Stereolab could have ever been bigger than they were.

they were in Volvo and VW commercials ya big dummy!

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

oh wait i'm a little bit late but whatever.

postmodernism existed in music before it existed anywhere else.

Dolly Parton's "9 to 5" was a socialist manifesto, and it went #1.

this was played on the jukebox tonight, followed by springsteen's "born in the usa." never were two more lyrically depressing, yet musically peppy songs ever written (and taken to the top by a public that didn't understand them).

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone else remember the Virgin Megastor when it was a 'pit',and when you wandered in you would quite probably be assaulted with "Playing golf with my flesh crawling"...

Then one day it shut down for a refit, and when it reopened it had a policy of 'nice' music only...

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

All music, lyrically, should be made to pass the Born In The USA test.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post Yeah I remember getting my Orange Juice "Felicity" 7" signed by the band in the smaller one in Newcastle, and they had all these weird as shit independent 7"s on the wall.

Rekkids I remember buying over the counter at the larger branch the moved to later - Action Pact "Suicide Bag" 7" Throbbing Gristle "Something Came Over Me" 7"

Virgin shop now = mobile phone shop for the most part

(creak, creak)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

re: the born in the usa test: good god no, that would make everybody Rage Against the Machine (verses nonsensical garbage; choruses, well, ANGRY pseudo-political nonsensical garbage).

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Most records shops now = DVD shops

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the point of good charlotte when i still have all my old clash records?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the point of the clash when I still have my new good charlotte rekkds?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

if we're talking economics

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

what time is Point Pleasant on?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not on this week! i don't know when it will be on again. i hope they didn't cancel it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the point of the Clash?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

They're Pleasant?

― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, Ned, you got in first.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The point of the Clash is THEY'RE THE ONLY BAND THAT MATTERS AND NOW I PUNCH YOU IN THE JIMMY

― Stupornaut in ST.P (natepatrin), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(sorry, I should be used to ILM oldskoolers being smarmy about my favorite band of 1977-1984 not named Van Halen*)

(*yes DLR made fun of the Clash during the Us Festival but he's DLR and you are not)

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

judas priest's set at the US festival kicked clash ass.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, well, uh... um. Damn. Judas Priest. You win.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the point of all this old people music when I can buy new albums (in print! on sale at retail stores!) by young artists and go to their concerts because they tour more than once a decade and don't make some dramatic "reunion" of it?

― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Buy?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never actually heard the clash's set at the US festival though.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I saw a video of their version of "Should I Stay or Should I Go". It was on Beavis and Butt-head. Beavis, upon spying Mick Jones: "Hey look, it's Seinfeld!"

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

well, my question would be: what is the point of records when i have these compact discs, then my next question would be what is the point of music when edwynn collins is a vegetable. r.i.p.

― corey c, Saturday, 5 March 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the point of records when i have these compact discs

(nu)(post)punk sounds better on vinyl (maaan)

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 5 March 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

So, I'm kinda underwhelmed by the new LCD Soundsystem and Mu cds, though I gave 'em a shot. Now it's back to Go4.

― steve-k, Saturday, 5 March 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

go build a time machine then, you funhater

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, while old man me does have fond memories of seeing Go4 a couple times in 81, I'll probably keep looking for new fun stuff I like rather than dragging out my old Go4 vinyl!

― steve-k, Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I see from their blogs that Sasha Frere-Jones, M. Matos, and Jess Harvell whose tastes I usually agree with all seem to love Mu, and I just don't quite get it. It has its moments, but its/her postpunk revival beats and Yoko-esque sreeching doesn't wow me.

― steve-k, Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

screeching

― steve-k, Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

what is the point of NOISE ROCK when i can just turn on ALL OF MY APPLIANCES?!?
What is the point of the Dave Matthews Band when have indie and avant-rock?
What is the point of Jay Z when you guys still have your old Sugarhill Gang and Grandmaster Flash records?
what is the point of INDIE ROCK when we've got CATCHER IN THE RYE?
what is the point of post punk when i still have all my old disco records?
what is the point of music when i can drink this whiskey?
what is the point of BUBBLECRUNK when I can just do NITROUS and jump around my living room PLAYING WITH MYSELF?
This is the thread for asking rhetorical "What is the point of X when you already have Y?" questions instead of starting a new thread about them every time
What is the point of intellectually analysing music?
what is the point of a teenage riot if it gets you OUT of bed??!!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 7 March 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

On Dissensus I was just reading a long thread that basically was saying "what's the point of the Libertines as long as you have punk and the Kinks," although some folks did try to muddy the waters a bit with discussions of 'modernity.'

The threads are everywhere...

― Steve-k (Steve K), Monday, 7 March 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there old postpunk that sounds like Bloc Party?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 7 March 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe old new wave. Many of the folks at Dissensus think you should only be listening to grime.

― steve-k, Monday, 7 March 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

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