Classic or Dud: C/D?

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I may be misinterpreting the definition of "classic" on this topic, but from my schooling I know it as "for the ages." I'm going from there...

Why is it important whether or not an independent band with one record out could / should be considered classic? Granted, that's a fraction of the scope you're dealing with, but defining the grey areas seems to take up a lot of the debate.

Isn't there something to be said for living in the moment? I don't think the Interpol record falls into either category, for instance, but I still listen to it a great deal. I'd say the vast majority of what I listen to doesn't fall into either category, while some of the stuff I absolutely loathe (Creed, for instance) will surely still be played ten years down the road, because the populous (keep in mind the difference between that and the smarmy rock critic extrapolating the populous' future ideals).

Sebastian S. Stirling, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 18:49 (twenty-three years ago)

...the populous ultimately decides what will be considered classic.

Sebastian, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

'classic' or 'dud have become nebuluous terms, on this board anyway. really, what is meant is 'ace' or 'shit', but the 'classic' and 'dud' terms have stuck, and its kind of too late now. 'classic' carries all kinds of canonical implications and ideas of 'value' other than personal, which isn't usually attributed but ends up being implied. and yes, of course the public decide what is considered classic *in the real world*, and i wouldn't have it any other way

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Classic.

gazuga, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah the original idea was a critique of the category of the 'classic' by forcing people to make snap decisions. It didn't really work and now we're stuck with it.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 20:36 (twenty-three years ago)

we now have enough threads w.this title that some wag can start a "classic or dud: classic or dud: classic or dud" thread

that wag is not me

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Suck it, jerkass.

Some Wag, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 21:40 (twenty-three years ago)

HULLO Sebastian!

Graham (graham), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 21:45 (twenty-three years ago)

also (since it seems a pity to waste being called "jerkass"): it's POPULACE

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Three points, no HULLOs.

1. I skimmed through the Classic or Dud archives and did not see any of these. I apologise for not dedicating my life to following this message board, and for not having spell check. You'll probably live anyway.

2. My question was more articulate than any of these and brought up different points therein.

3. Thanks to the people who replied nicely.

Sebastian, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 22:07 (twenty-three years ago)


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