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(they haven't gotten progressively uglier have they?)(I didn't see the original - too fast for me! - but the successors have been identical no?)

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

they looked pretty identical to me

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

(JBR: follow mark's lead. at his signal, unleash hell.)

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's an identical message on about 10 threads. If we kill one, we really need to kill them all. (And yes, I fully support killing them all.)

― kate (kate), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

(me too. use 'search' option to initiate 'kitchen light: cockroach scurry')

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate is james hetfield shockah!

― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

The latest incarnation of the thread which was deleted started making personal swipes at specific posters.

The whole situation bothers me because I base a good amount of my schtick on hyperbolic filth and while I don't think Spooner is particularly funny or anything I do have to wonder why it seems like I can get away with it but he can't.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I would like to disagree with Dan. Hi Dan!)

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

James has fluffier sideburns.

Dan: because you are friendly and Spooner is evil.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh I was disagreeing with Dan's previous comment not that one. I think Ned's right although sideburn talk confuses me.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

We've been through this before with regards to my own occasional filth.

-Posters such as Dan, myself, etc. are capable of occasional filth in bursts of funniness, yet it is not the ONLY schtick that we ever contribute to the board. We are members of the community, we don't just drop in to provoke posters like little boys pulling the wings off of flies
-Posters such as Dan, myself, etc. (except for a few regrettable drunken or emotional outbursts) generally DON'T insult or personally attack other posters

I can't really quantify or qualify the difference, but there is a difference. Perhaps simple the fact that the behaviour of and moderation of posters like Spooner makes us THINK about what we are doing, rather than just continuing it blindly.

― kate (kate), Friday, 11 July 2003 14:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

MAYBE U SHOULD ASK OTHER POSTERS WHO USE THESE BOARDS IF THEY WANT A THREAD DELETED BEFORE U ACTUALLY DELETE IT

― sean g, Friday, 11 July 2003 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Grow up, "Sean".

― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

So Tim, you think if we hadn't ignored the original Gwyenth thread, he still would have posted two others titled "Return of the Gwyneth thread" with nasty comments in them and then posted "Return of the Gwyneth thread" in all-caps to eight others?

Also, while filth is predominantly what Spooner has offered, it isn't the only thing he's offered. (James's search shows that.)

I'm not complaining about being in the ILX clique, mind you; it's just that I never really thought of one actually existing and I generally like to try to talk to everyone. (This is how the online me is markedly different from the real-life me.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sean, why are you shouting? The rules of the boards are quite clear and grossly distended rehearsals of the "delete" / "don't delete" argument will only ever be boring.

Dan: he'd have said something else just as tedious and I think as a kind of sign of boundaries of acceptability deletion is a good thing in that case.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dan - you think he wouldn't have? this is someone who clearly WILL NOT BE IGNORED < / glenn close>

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

do we need to rehash mark s' dictum everytime or do we need to rehash the preface pseudo-free speech discussion first?

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

James B OTM - use the search function and revive the 9000 old threads about free speech on a private forum if you want. Meanwhile the mods will and should delete anything this tosser posts.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dan, I see yr point, but yr markedly funnier. And there's many other reasons, as above I guess... I just follow ILX mod rules as laid down by Tom/Mark, and they seem like perfectly good ones. I don't think Calum's a difficult enough case to warrant worrying about on this sort of level, maybe someone will be one day (maybe Dada already is?).

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

The first thread did continue to get worse and worse as he just waited for us to delete it and was as bad as the ones that followed it. His only reason for posting it was to get it deleted and to tell you the truth Im getting paid while Im hitting refresh every minute or two so it doesn't bother me playing his little game.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Free Speech for sean, and the general public's reaction here.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's like cloak and dagger!

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

You missed some, Noodles!

― kate (kate), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

with Cal, um, Spooner as the imaginary Dabney Coleman and yr. friendly neighborhood moderator as the real Dabney Coleman!

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Poor old Raymond Scott! To see his thread so traduced!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

(The whole "whacking-a-hornet's-nest-until-it-stings-you" analogy is just as applicable to the moderators as it is to the participants in The Fight, you know...)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

(but the moderator's got beekeeper suits)

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes it's me, and I know I said I'd not come back but I need a favour...

Could someone with ILM admin privileges delete the dickish posts in this thread, please?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

which are those dan?

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yours, for one.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

i figured. mr. decorum.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

The rules cut both ways; posts that are trying to stir up bad feelings are supposed to get deleted.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

ok, you're right, you should delete it. it was an oblique reference to the boy who cried wolf, btw.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't see anything that merits deletion, Dan. Is that really a rule? I think it's a matter of degree. This is just a supposedly humourous sly dig. ILE is full of that stuff.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

"supposedly humorous" nails it.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I should say that I am against deleting every thread Calum posts, just because they are by him. I am all in favour of deleting all his repetitive and stupid misogyny, and his threads whining that we delete same, but that one he started about strawberries was fine (possibly despite his intent) - if he revisited and started whining again, get rid of that. He has caused too much trouble and been too much of an arsehole to deserve more consideration. We should consider banning his whole IP domain too, though that would freeze out anyone else who happens to work for his employers.

I still think we should be keeping copies of his more abusive stuff. We might consider threatening to send highlights to his employers, with times and dates, pointing out that he is posting this stuff from their machines.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

whoah, martin, a lot of stuff we all write would probably be considered outside the bounds of what our employers would like us to be doing at work!

also the offending posts on the calum thread were mine, not calum's (for a change).

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

what a weird coincidence that he should post on the same day all the spooner stuff goes down!

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 11 July 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I posted a thread on ILM that seemed like a less-than-terrible idea at the time, but I've since been convinced I was wrong. Could you erase it? Thanks.

(Why do I even bother? I want to sit in the back of the bus too...)

― Prude (Prude), Monday, 14 July 2003 06:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone delete my pictures near the bottom of this thread: NYC FAP Photos (picture thread). I don't know if they are messing things up by being so big, I'm going to shrink them and repost. Thanks.

― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Prude, there was nothing wrong with your thread. Don't let nasty Josh browbeat you. I'm not deleting it.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 14 July 2003 11:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

That Girl seems to have posted her phone # again on the "EXCELSIOR" thread. Not that it's my business, but I can't imagine she wants to leave it there forever.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 14 July 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've taken initial action on that; I'm assuming That Girl will quickly ask for full action to be taken shortly.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 14 July 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone want to help me out? It's fucking up my geocities stuff and my webpage.

― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll change them to links k NA?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Done.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Damm Dan is quick on the draw

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a gift.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

aslong as its not a gif, cause those things are copyrighted.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's not what your wife said - boo-yah!

― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 14 July 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

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