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― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, Do you like your ladies in menswear? More along the lines of retro sock garters? ha ha

I don't even know what that means.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i'm going to go with the butt biting. but i suspect it might be something else.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

I want to know more about butt biting.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

which of the following 4 sex tips is NOT from c-o-s-m-o:
1. "give your guy oral when he's on all fours"

I don't quite understand the mechanics of this.

(an auspicious start to a new thread, I know)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

come on now -- i'm reposting this:

which of the following 4 sex tips is NOT from c-o-s-m-o:
1. "give your guy oral when he's on all fours"
2. "write his name on your panties"
3. "wear a cowboy hat"
4. "bite him all over his butt"

note: i have the article RIGHT in front of me (don't ask why)

ps -- it's NOT THE BUTT BITING

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

RE: ass pants - They are slutty. Way slutty. So slutty that they shouldn't be sold to 13 year olds. This is probably why they're so damn hard to ignore. I can't say why I find them hot, since nearly every feminist-leaning bit of my being is screaming at me not to.

But seriously, they're hott.

xpost: name on panties

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Mama D1gd0wn's has thongs, btw.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

no one is right yet -- "butt biting" and "his name, your panties" are both REALLY in cosmo

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

cowboy hat?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

So they really wrote #1?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

(I suppose that would be a weird one for you to make up)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

it has to be the cowboy hat!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

is it sexier to have a woman wearing something particularly sexy, or having a woman perform a feat of alchemy by having something that isn't innately sexy (i.e., a hunting cap) transform itself into something sexy by virtue of the occasion and the charm and air of the woman herself?

I'm going to go with the LATTER.

I'm hating myself for all the implications of me finding the ass-words sexy but not garter belts. But seriously, belts and stockings and heels and jewelry and all that just seem so complicated and stupid.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

it's the cowboy hat. that one was not real. the rest are real.

full text of #1: "Give your guy oral when he's on all fours. It's a totally different sensation than when his penis points up."

dear LORD.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

If I were a girl I'd be afeared of getting fallen on giving head that way. You know, sometimes it makes a dude get all weak in the knees.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, it sounds pretty interesting to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah, me too.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

My personal favorite: "Massage him...with your boobs."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Nothing says "sexy" like gravity.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

this magazine is too much funny. this article was faxed to me AT WORK.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Boob massage sounds nice and all, but it might take longer to get those knots out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's the point. Maximize the boob-to-skin contact time.

"Could you come massage my palms a little more?"

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

i've totally given oral to a guy on all fours. it's harder to um, work it. i guess.
i reckon i'll regret this post.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

man, there's something about boob massage just strikes me as hilarious. boobs having the wherewithal to actually DO something other than just hang there? those are some genius boobs.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

No tenure for Kelsey!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

kelsey, we'll post enough that your post will be history by monday morning at the latest. doncha worry.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

i knew this girl who would always give bj's & rub her boobs all over the guy. titty fuck, i think it's called? regardless, that just seems so freakin' humpy to me.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Yup. Never to be President of these United States, either. You may as well just admit you've smoked weed and all that other shit now, too.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Until your second husband Googles you in 20 years and needs a belt of whiskey afterwards.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

(assuming you have)

xpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

that's the second time i've lost my shot at tenure!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

i've smoked weed. jesus. WHAT DON'T YOU KNOW ALREADY!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Actually, a woman in a hunting cap would look really cute, the more I think about it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Does it count if the dude is not on all fours, but merely two? I think the position is the same.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I thought maybe there was a Marcel Dzama illustration with a hunting-capped woman, but all I could find was these nurses:

http://www.thimble.ca/wp-images/posts/dzama2.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

jaymc is all about the gender bend/androgynous thing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Main Entry: humpy
Pronunciation: 'h&m-pE
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): hump·i·er; -est
1 : full of humps
2 : covered with humps

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

You don't know the half of it, Jaymc. The best burlesque show I've ever seen involved a gal in a hunting outfit (at a legit show at Martyrs, not the Admiral or anything), including a cap with floppy ears.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I was thinking floppy ears. So hot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

It's up there with a Postal Worker outfit.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

John, I was posting in response to this:
Whatever. Womeny type things in general aren't really my style.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahahaha!!!! xpost to jordan

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

how about this:

http://www.katielyman.com/images/345_Alexis2_KatieLyman.jpg

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Here are men's sock garters:
http://www.sockmansocks.com/index.10.jpg
They used to be worn all the time by men in professional environs.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I think it ought to be blaze orange, though. xpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

(xp) Oh, I know, Sarah. I just have no idea what "retro sock garters" means.

...

Okay, I see.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Later, dudes.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

bye.

that hunting cap looks ridiculous.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it doesn't quite work for me as much as I'd hoped.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

bye sarah.

yeah -- come on -- just because it's unexpected doesn't mean that it's sexy. does it? what about a clown wig?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I hear "hunting cap" and I think something more like this...
http://image.sportsmansguide.com/image/7/70556.JPG

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I actually have one just like that in my closet except it is camo, not blaze orange.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Making a clown wig sexy would be an almost unimaginable act of alchemy.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

so what's sexier? push up bra, regular bra, no bra, undershirt?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sylvanlaneshoppe.com/alchemy.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I don't think it's the unexpectedness that makes it sexy for me as much as the androgyny, maybe? I'm also reminded of a SuicideGirl I like (yes, I know I talk about SG all the time, but look, sex seems to be a pretty popular topic on this thread, okay?) who wears a furry hat with pointy bits on top.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

They've all got virtues, K. The first one can lead to disappointment if a gent is so lucky as to see it removed.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Also, since I don't ever anticipate having to worry about tenure, believe me when I say that there is nothing wrong with some t1tty s3x every now and then (humpy or not!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

i think the bra of choice sort of depends on the boobs.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

i'm not opposed to administering it, it just seems like SUCH a guy thing. i derive zero pleasure from pumping my boobs around.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh man that magic card made me lose my shit.

Bra choice is totally dependent on what else is being worn (or not being worn, as the case may be.)

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

i saw a woman on the train the other day with pendulous 2-liters and she could have used some help carrying them.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

i derive zero pleasure from pumping my boobs around.

But some girls do, Kels. It's not just a guy thing. It's a boob thing.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey, that often happens when a guy doesn't pay attention to the titoris.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, totally a guy thing, I can't deny that.

(I haven't done it like you describe though, only with "the girl" lying on her back.)

(oh no, I've gone too far etc.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

the titoris! hahahahaha

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Maybe a newsboy cap would be better.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, Chris, haha.

Also, I vote for the relatively rare "no bra" option.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

This has been great guys. I'm out for today.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Also, I vote for the relatively rare "no bra" option.

It's rare because few boobs are made for it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

word to that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

True, but some choose it anyway. Hippie co-op employees, for example.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

my boobs aren't & i often do it. oh, jordan just pulled the hippie line. yeah. well, i only do it at home!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

maybe girl on her back would work better. it's just less interesting (for ME) to scrub the guy. my mouth & my tits are too far apart & i'd rather use my mouth.

with that, i, my whole family, my entire lineage of family pets and known friends are all burning in hell.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Actually, newsboy caps can look skanky, too, especially if they're like red leather or if they're too floppy or if they're one component of some garishly wacky outfit with lots of bracelets and capris and hair extensions. But I imagine something more old-fashioned working. Like those old Katherine Hepburn get-ups.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

don't worry kelsey -- we're all going to be fired and then we'll burn in hell together.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I *like* that big-breasted hippie girls don't wear bras!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

on that note, grandma is signing off. sorry i dragged us into the gutter (again.)

hasta el jueves.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

That's alright, I need all the entertainment I can get on these long work nights.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

is anyone going to that wire festival thingy with hot chip, isolee, cut copy, etc? i would go!

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Uh, sorry to briefly hearken back to Sarah's recipe request, but I wanted to recommend Deborah Madison's "Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone" (I think that's the name)--lots of good and pretty easy recipes in there.

Back to the entertainment...

― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

I got a 4% raise. I need a new job.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

4% ain't bad. Congratulations!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/25/45484401_2bc0513fcf.jpg?v=0

I'm extremely happy with my new monitor, even though it makes ilx very wide.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/25/45484321_b96ac19c76.jpg

Kenan, I redownloaded alot of the comics I lost in the crash, I can go ahead and burn you that dvd, along with the other stuff that you need.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

is anyone going to that wire festival thingy with hot chip, isolee, cut copy, etc? i would go!

I thought only Isolee was part of the festival. Regardless, I'd really like to see Isolee on Friday and Cut Copy on Saturday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm not going to any ::::#JLJKL#J;;;;;;((((((((((((

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

i've been at work since 6:45. i waited a little while but i can't hold out any more. is anyone else around yet?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

Hey, 'manda. Busy morn here; maybe I can stay away 'til the afternoon...

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, i should too. i'm doing something really tedious, so i'm listening to music, which is a welcome break from listening to the lady across the aisle chatter endlessly. she gives us a play-by-play of what she's doing. ALL DAY LONG. maybe we'll be quiet today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

I have a lot of work on my desk. It makes me grumpy. I feel really sleepy this morning, even though I went to sleep a little after 9pm. Actually, I was going to go to bed @ 8 but Nick made me get up and watch tv instead.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Sweet jeepers. I have nothing to do today but my boss is going to be here so I'm going to have to look busy somehow. Sucks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm not going to complain about my review any more except to say: 4% raise on a good salary is great. 4% raise on a shitty salary is still shitty.

On the plus side, no mention of internet usage, which means either they are clueless or just don't care.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

happy birthday, joan jett.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and the raise is retroactive back to April, when I was supposed to have had my review, so on my next check I get an extra chunk of money, which is nice. I can buy train tickets home for xmas.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Nick.

Hi, joan jett.

I don't like hunting caps very much, but I guess some of the furry ones look warm. I don't know. I can't remember the last time I tried one on...

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I redownloaded alot of the comics I lost in the crash, I can go ahead and burn you that dvd, along with the other stuff that you need.

Awesome! Flex Mentallo! Have you read that yet?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that is kind of crappy Nick. Just get a better job, okay? Good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Sorry for being a downer, dudes. I have tomorrow off! Three day weekend! Wahey!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I watched tv last night! This is not something I normally do! Did anyone else see Lost?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Hey Chicago! I'm here too, and hve been for a while. My email has just decided not to work so I don't even have to feel guilty!

Does it count if the dude is not on all fours, but merely two? I think the position is the same.

So the bloke is on two fours? Are they like two by fours? Or plus fours?

The position of the tongue in relation to the banjo string is definitely the key variable when evaluating fellatio. Ahem.

Lost was on here too, Jordan, but we're still in the first series so if you could avoid spoilers that would be rad :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

The burlesque gal with the hunting cap, she had a toy rifle slung on her shoulder, and she'd scan the horizon with her eyes, and then she'd turn around and she'd have a little cottontail on her rear, and then she would turn around again and scan the horizon.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I've never been very good at math, Markelby. And I won't give up any spoilers, though I've actually only seen the finale from 1st season and the new one last night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Oh, then you must have been a little... Lost. For instance, you're supposed to know who that woman in the car crash is already.

Ok, ok... no spoilers. There's a thread for all that already.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Last night I wrote a paper and watched scattered minutes of ANTM. It was sufficiently entertaining, from what I saw. My paper wound up being pretty good too, to my surprise.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

You'd be right Kenan, except I was asking Maddie every five seconds, "Who's that? Are we supposed to know who she is? Why the fuck is she conscious in the OR?" etc.. I would have been so irritated with me if I were her.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Not yet, I'm finishing up Doom Patrol.

I love that Joan Jett shares a birthday with me. It's a lot better than Vince Colman.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

NO "LOST" TALK PLEASE I PLAN TO WATCH THE DVDS SOMEDAY.

We had a very relaxing evening last night. First we went to the gym but I was tired and didn't last very long. Then we went home and I made a massive amount of black beans and rice which we consumed with beer while watching the end of Dog Day Afternoon and some Family Guy on DVD. Then I took the movies back and came home and read the Onion and switched between CSI and Law & Order when Sarah went to bed.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Today is YOUR birthday JEFF?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOAN JEFF!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it's also Nick Caves birthday.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Do we have to figure out how old everyone is again now?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

And Liam Gallagher's birthday. Jeff, you're practically famous! How old are you? Happy happy happy birfday to you.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Happy birthday Jeff! Here is a picture of Joan Jett guest-starring in an episode of Highlander.

http://home.att.net/~Dusters100/JJhigmov.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

hey, sarah, jeff and i all had birthdays and we're all even numbers now. 26, 28 and 30. i find that pleasing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

I am also an even number.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

I am not, but I will be again. Someday.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Happy Birthday, Jeff!!! Are you guys doing anything to celebrate?

I'm odd, but I'll be even again in dec.

morning all . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Jenny's in Delaware, so we're not doing anything till this weekend, when I'm in DE. Sort of the suck, especially consider this weekend is going to be stressful since I'm essentially staying in DE for 1 day.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Take some time for Jeff. Have a Jeff night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

I feel you, Jeff. The last time I went to VA it was for one day. I mean, I spent one evening flying, one day there, one day flying back. FUN!

But anyway, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

here's an update on the drama in my life:

the wedding dilemma . . . spoke to the bride, E, last night. Whoa boy. Intense. She called me back (i had left a message the day before) & said all the things she should have said a month ago. you know, like how it's important for me to be at her wedding & stuff. her wedding is this weekend. there's no way i can make it now.

fraud: all that is pending.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

jeez, it's a little late for that, E -- isn't it? i have an intense friend-convo coming up and i'm not looking forward to it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

it's really really good to get such convos behind you though. i had a close friend that i thought i would have to cut loose because of various weirdnesses, but now things have smoothed out and it's so nice that the tension is eased... (that friend i'd talked about a while ago, sarah)

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Happy Birthday Jeff

Man, weddings. I've got two to go to back in the U.P. in the next two weekends. 4 days of driving for that, great.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Nick, could be worse - last year I got a 1.5% raise. I could barely contain my excitement.

As far as cosmo's tips -- is the girl on all fours, or the dude?

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

the dude!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

part of me wonders if this whole wedding thing might just help rekindle our friendship. the thing is, i think that to some extent each of us feels like the other "owes" us something. she mentioned that me leaving a message was very important to her, whereas i feel like ANY contact from her is pretty important to me at this point. i wonder if i'm going to have a huge regret over not trying harder to go to the wedding.

i had a long talk with my dad about it last night. it was something i initially wanted to talk about with mom instead, but he was the one home. he was pretty upset that i was feeling so extremely guilty over all this & reminded me that it wasn't just my fault. while i knew that already, it was nice to hear it again.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

kelsey, that's so cute that you talk to your parents about these things. did you get to watch ANTM at all?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i watched it. in a slightly tipsy bad day malaise. i had a good time. it was nice to not be at home feeling sorry for myself....and one of the models i hated got the boot!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

wasn't it a big financial deal to go to the wedding though? that isn't something to feel guilty about, it seems a common enough issue. it's good that you're talking to your friend about it rather than it being all a bunch of misunderstanding.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Fascinating article. (Is Thursday another sex day?)

http://slate.msn.com/id/2126570/entry/0/

the book club New books dissected over e-mail.

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From: Laura Kipnis
To: Meghan O'Rourke and Wendy Shalit
Subject: Why Aren't More Women "Opting Out"?
Wednesday, Sept. 21, 2005, at 3:22 AM PT

Dear Wendy and Meghan,

Gosh, what a lot of big complicated questions we have flying around: What is sexual fidelity; what would real female empowerment look like; in what ways are women sexually different than men; do technologies or cultural genres like porn dictate the kinds of intimate relationships we get to have—or not have—with each other? And that's just a start!

Meghan, you want to know whether watching porn betrays your partner. (We're assuming the context is a monogamous couple.) Which raises even more questions: What proprietary rights over another person's body and sexuality come along with coupledom? Is masturbation sexual treachery, or just anxiety release and distraction? Does it matter whether it involves porn stars and fantasy, or just friction? Or is it an issue of frequency—multiple times a week is cheating, but once a week is OK?

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Let me try to back into (or out of!) these questions from a different direction. Like you, I, too, was struck by the fact that neither of these authors could get past their own assumptions about porn and sex. Instead, both tell us what they think good sex should be. For everyone. Both want sex to be about intimacy, connection, trust, real breasts instead of fake ones, and so on. So do you and Wendy, I assume. And so do I, to be honest.

Then why do I feel resistant to these forms of social scolding, even if in my heart of hearts, I gravitate more to their views of sexuality than to the porn sensibility? Possibly because both of these books also put me in mind of the Sadeian insight that dictating what people should do in bed, even in the name of virtue, is actually the height of perversity.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

i missed the end -- who got the boot?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I copied wayyy too much of that. That was a mistake.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Is the ANTM you're talking about season 5? Sorry to be a transatlantic killjoy, but if you could not talk about that either I'd be very grateful!

(Me and SGS have sat religiously through the last two seasons (three in her case) and it's about the only thing we HAVE to watch on telly every week. Currently showing is Britain's NTM, which is good too - season 5 of ANTM may well be kicking off in 11 weeks when BNTM finishes :))

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

the "pretty gene" girl.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

oops. sorry, markel.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

i am realizing that i'm fairly crabby today. sorry in advance, er'body.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

where are we allowed to talk about this?
the "pretty gene"? really? the one with the deep voice? that's interesting. i thought Urkel was gonna get the boot for sure.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Urkel being "horsey mouth trips a lot?" it was down to her & pretty gene.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

i'm just going to make up a rule that chicago people can talk about ANTM since this thread is owned by the City of Chicago.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

And I will be sad and make bambi eyes at you and ask that you don't. Unless of course you don't give away who's evicted.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

here's an ANTM thread:

America's next Next Top Model!

i wonder if grey's anatomy is going to be on again. it wasn't great, but it was watchable.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

i think i just did.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Trips-a-lot Horsemouth is sure to go soon -- but I meant Don't Get It Twisted. She is the most truly and aggressively geeky person I've seen on television in a long time. Not in a cool-geek way, either. She reminded me of Urkel.

Come on, Markelby -- we can't accomodate the entire planet. We're just one city.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I'm off then. Not that I contributed much in the first place.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't mean to be a brat -- it's just the first cut. Sheesh.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Hey so hey so hey so is early November too nasty, weatherwise, for visiting Chicago?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Jeff & Jenny's wedding reception is the only one I've been to where I actually enjoyed myself. That was a multiple x-post. I haven't seen top model at all.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

It'll probably be in the 40s and 50s in early November, a little bleak with short days but not unbearable.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I like November -- it's sweater + blazer weather.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

i hate the autumn :(

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Autumn is great! It is a very evocative season for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

who's get it twisted?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

That's her "catchphrase" -- Ebony? God, she was so ANNOYING.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I, also, love the autumn.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

In Minnesota, we usually would get our first snowstorm around Halloween, and temps would be below freezing around that time and the sky turns a dark slate gray. So I like the milder fall here.

I'm going to play a new song at my show tonight; it's all about why I'm fantasizing about the fall. I'm a little tempted to do a whole fall medley consisting of my song, Hawksley Workman's amazing ballad "Autumn's Here" and Mia Doi Todd's similarly great "Autumn". I'd do Yo La Tengo's "Autumn Sweater" too, but I don't think it'd be so hot.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

And now I'm off to have my teeth cleaned.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I'd do Yo La Tengo's "Autumn Sweater" too, but I don't think it'd be so hot.

If you'd given more notice, I could back you up on organ.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

There's always "Autumn Almanac." On second thought, it's a little too cutesy, probably.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Autumn is by far my favorite season. I love that first chill in the air. I love that first night where it's not cold enough to turn on the heat, but just cold enough to pile on the blankets and get all toasty and let the cat keep your feet warm and reading something stupid and trashy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

That'd be a fun one to do with you and Colin, J.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

YES. (to kenan)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

j won't do it with c, i'm guessing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Why do you say that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Exactly, Ks.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I will be working every day this weekend.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

i boil my hatred of autumn down to 1) the past 5 autumns have been really crappy and 2) i hate christmas

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

That's fair enough.

I am supremely indifferent to Christmas and I love mulled cider.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

it seems everyone loves autumn, though - i feel LEFT OUT in my misery

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the holidays coming do kind of put a different view on things, though i like autumn. the holidays have all this pressure for Family Quality Time, i dread them.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

The season itself doesn't mean much to me besides cooler weather. I've gotten the best few nights of sleep in a long while lately.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the holidays coming do kind of put a different view on things

You have all of November to dread the holidays. October is for anticipating Halloween! (and my birthday.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Well, if I ever play a show with 'nasta, it'd be fun to liberally borrow their keyboardist, drummer, whoever for a few songs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

september and october are OKAY, really, but november, wow, it sucks!!

I begged my parents to take us somewhere TROPICAL for christmas and they aren't into it

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

So do you just do solo stuff, Eazy? What's the deal?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

it seems everyone loves autumn, though - i feel LEFT OUT in my misery

Mandee, you're not alone. I like fall weather enough, but the steady getting colder = death. I very much prefer spring, because spring smells like mud and i like that and it feels like hope, whereas fall feels like cold, hard resignation.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

See, spring is a relief to me, because the worst months are March and April, because it's like, "It's still cold. This will never end." But Fall feels like hope to me -- hope of breaking out favorite sweaters and bundling up and gaining a few pounds due to excess carb and alcohol consumption and reading long books and listening to difficult music and not getting out much and enjoying the long nights. I like night.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Man, I hate it when it starts getting dark at like 5 in the afternoon though. Chicago is east of where I'm from, yet is in the central time zone.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think it's super depressing. I'm not even really that in love with sunshine, but night + cold means I'm slothful and unmotivated. And I have to start studying for my COMPREHENSIVE EXAM. eeeeek.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Jordan, a lot of the time it's me solo, or with one or two others. Used to be all solo. Guy and a weirdly tuned guitar and a lot to talk about between songs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I guess I should have specified: my home town is on eastern time.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

several days out of the week I have to be at work at 7 (with an hour commute, mind) -- in the fall/winter I find it nearly impossible to wake up at 5am, whereas in the summer I wake up no problem - I HATE DARK MORNINGS

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the early darkness in the afternoon is pretty depressing, I'll give you that. Aren't they pushing back daylight savings time a few more weeks beginning this year?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

me TOO! same thing: hour commute, be at work at 7. it's fine in the summer, but in the winter walking the dogs in the pitch black dark at 5AM really really really sucks.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Winter = dark when I get up, dark when I leave work (and I currently have no windows).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, I figured I'd ask here instead of in the band thread... So, are you like, a really good drummer? Did you take lessons for a million years and do rudiments for hours and shit like that? I ask because I'm curious, and because I want to know if you know of any good/great internet drumming resources for tuning advice, different practice patterns, etc.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Even though I've been playing for like 11 years, I'm basically self-taught. Sometimes I feel like my drumming knowledge is severely lacking.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

I am overheated and grumpy. I've been working entirely too hard today, but I have this ridiculous urge to come in to a clean desk Friday mornings (which is dumb, because Fridays lag enough as it is).

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I'm not where I want to be as a drummer, but I get by. I took lessons in high school then played in all of the university jazz bands in college. I do practice rudiments every day.

There were a couple of good things online that I used to look at during college, like some Jeff Queen (rudimental freak) lessons and videos at the Vic Firth site. I can't find the Jeff Queen thing anymore, but there's probably some stuff on his site.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, I think even more valuable than lessons and videos is hanging out with really fucking awesome drummers. Just being around people who are really good and watching them up close has been really motivational for me.

Some advice that's stuck in my head about drumming:

-I think it was either Matt Wilson or Bill Stewart who said this, but they were talking about "getting into your sound" as a way to good technique. Be conscious of what makes a drum sound different when you hit it (i.e., where, with what kind of motion, stick angle, etc.) and think about how you want to sound. That way you're not focused on playing fast or pulling off licks, but making whatever you play sound clean and full.

-I actually had a lesson with that Jeff Queen guy, and even though he doesn't play drumset he was totally right about this. It sounds weird, but watch good drummers play and think about how it looks, and how you look when you play. It's a big part of technique (or at least teaching yourself technique), making sure everything you do is relaxed and not awkward looking/feeling. My favorite drummers are the guys who don't even look like they're playing except for their hands, unless they want to (i.e., totally relaxed and confident, no straining, leaning different directions, elbows or arms thrown out, etc.).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Also being involved in a lot recording in the last year has been huuuuge. It really broke me down on things like time, overplaying, sound and shit like that, and I've gotten a lot better because of it I think. Definitely record yourself against a click track if you can, and see if you don't rush fills or other stuff.

(uh, sorry about this, non-drummers of Chicago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, recording is huge when it comes to stuff like that. That's when my playing has improved most, during and immediately after recording when I get to hear things differently.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

I need a new practice pad. Damn it, why did I get rid of all that stuff?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I haven't been able to practice on my kit for years, but I'm all about the pad:

http://www.bandinstrumentservice.com/Images/Percussion/RF12.jpg

I should take a picture of mine, with its six-year accumulation of dirt, stick marks, and stickers.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I just had one of the little Remo ones. This is something for the Christmas list, methinks.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

My big practice pad stuff:

-Practicing rudiments at medium-to-slow speeds instead of fast, so you really have to control the strokes rather than relying on bounce.

-Double paradiddles

-Making sure unaccented strokes are as quiet as can be and accented strokes are loud or rimshots, no middle ground.

-Trying to get singles and doubles to sound pretty similar, i.e. 16th note single strokes for one bar alternated with 16th note double strokes for one bar

-Playing double strokes on my pillow

-Flam taps and swiss triplets and stuff

God, I'll stop now. It's just more fun to talk about drum geekery than to work.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

you don't just jam out on your knees while riding public transpo like the guy next to me this morning?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

No, I totally do. Can't help it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

ah geez.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

actually, it was last night, not this morning, now that i think of it. this morning it was too early for the train to be that full.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

hey! i got here so early that i get to leave in 45 minutes.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

that's fucking great. i want to leave early . . . i also accidentally took an 1 hour & 1/2 for lunch.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

If we're going to talk any more about underwear, now's the time!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

The high today was supposed to be 81, and instead we get a heat index of 90. I hate sweating.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

um, why? (eric)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

I don't really have anything left to say about undergarments. At least not for now.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

Maybe we can get together sometime and hack on the pad, Dan. :>

Oh shit, did I tell you guys that I'm in a rock band? It's my friend Luka's thing, and it's called the Optimistic. I'm not on the record because he wanted to slave over it and record all the instruments himself, but we're rehearsing and will hopefully be ready to play shows in a couple of months. It sounds a little bit Spoon-ish.

I want to split a rock show with the FFs sometime in the next year!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, we can get together and beat the shit out of some pads.

Man, am I tripping or would an all-ILX band show be kind of cool?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

The Chicago FAP Band Experience

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Everything has always been done already!

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

The dream deferred.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Meaning it hasn't actually been done. We just talked shit about it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Except it never happened! And it should!

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I'd do it. Dueling drummers? I can play guitar really shittily too if need be.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm thinking of coming down to Chicago sometime on the weekend of 30th since I will be on vacation, I don't know if it will happen though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I assumed dan was just talking about all our bands playing a show together. Like a MEGA-CHILX band festival.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I just dropped a thawed frozen blueberry on my pants.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Does that count as art?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

(Why is just 'cause the afternoon is going fast and folks are leaving, K. It was a bluff on my part. But here's a thought I had last night related to what we were talking about yesterday -- I think, and this is a huge generalization and maybe patronizing to boot, but that thongs can sometimes reflect insecurity more than confidence.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that was what I was talking about. xpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

That would be cool too. But I still think the FAP BAND would be awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Additionally, and totally band-unrelated, I saw a Caddilac (I think that's what it was) the other day with the license plate "CHILX 4." Any of you all drive a Caddy?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

(interesting observation. i think it can be both extreme & lack of confidence. depends on the situation/person)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

We should set a date for the FAP BAND EXPERIENCE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Or we could just do an hour of improv for the FINAL SQUEEZED. FUN!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

No.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Well, maybe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

SKRONKY IMPROV

I agree, we should set a date. Maybe sometime in November?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

(I don't actually want to do skronky improv. I want to play pop music.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh bah, I already play pop music, I want to play skronky improv.
I guess we have to compromise and play skronky pop.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Possibly Britney Spears songs with designated free improv sections?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone here ever been to Vintage Wine Bar?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

No, but it's like a block from my house. I pass by it a lot.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm so done with today already.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Me too. I've got like five hours of work left, though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Today has been one of those days where I've had two tiny things to do and I've had to streeeeeeetch them out so that I look like I'm doing stuff all day. Tedious.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

i'm crabby & i want/need to lift tonight.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Over and out, everyone.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I just bought some weird Snickers energy bar.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Bye Eric! Good luck at your show tonight!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I swore I'd go to the gym last night. We ordered pizza and watched Lost instead. I swore I'd go tonight. I have to work until 9:00, and we're ordering Noodles. Argh, I will never be in shape again.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Today kinda sucks, same old picky stuff here with people not doing their jobs.
I really want to buy Katamari and these Clark's shoes that are on sale, but I just spent $150 on chiropractic treatments and x-rays because my neck and back are totally fucked, and then I have 6 more treatment sessions in the next two weeks.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

oh my! i hope they help, jocelyn. that sounds like a lot of treatments in a short time....but i've never known much about chiropractic things.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

So I guess I'm going to see C1ap Yer Hand5 etc etc etc tomorrow. Anyone else here going?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Nope, but I'm playing with them in Madison on Sunday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Thanks kelsey, I hope so. I've been getting these headaches no one could figure out, and it's because my neck is going convex instead of concave. It's some sort of spinal problem they never picked up on when I was young, because all the ballet kept my spine in alignment.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, that's this weekend! I may not stay very late, but I should definitely be able to come out.

(do you have my phone #, jaymc?)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

We went to the gym yesterday but I was having a caffeine/adrenalin crash (from afternoon coffee and stress about performance appraisal) and so I was really tired and wussy. I couldn't even handle the elliptical machine.

I can't decide if I want to buy Katamari or not. It looks awesome but not very different from the old one, and I haven't been playing video games much lately. I'll probably wait.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

what time is eric's show tonight? i suspect i won't go b/c i have to figure out this fraud shit, plus, i'm crabby & in a sour mood today.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Jocelyn, Maddie's spine goes the wrong way too!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

45 minutes until my weekend!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

i'm suddenly not feeling great. maybe i'll feel worse tomorrow & get to call in sick or something.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

You don't have to feel worse to call in sick. ;-)

I dunno about E's show, either: I think I need to not go out tonight.

Jordan -- e-mail me your digits.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

i'm feeling so poopy!!! the fraud stuff, the wedding crap, my body is out of it and l & i are having craptastic phone calls. nothing is great or even okay. ilx is stable.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

and i had a very nice lunch with my friend, jess & then also ran into my friend, audra.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

The Chicago thread is so sad today! But I am actually feeling good and happy and lazy.

kelsey... :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

i'm feeling totally :(
with extra :(

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

kelsey you need to listen to some BLOCK ROCKIN BEATS and DANCE

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

I recommend STAND UP TALL by DIZZEE RASCAL

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

. . . if i can only crawl from my hole of dispair . . .

(kidding. mellow drama.)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I ran into K@sia, my friend who works at 1PG, and she said you emailed her and she emailed back and then she never heard from you...what happened?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

She is currently playing piano for a theater piece, and the music is written by AZITA. It's playing at some theater at Addison and Elston.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I think it's EXPERIMENTAL.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

& then also ran into my friend, audra.

I RSVP'd to Restaurant Club on Tuesday night after I got home from my show, so it was like 1 am. Audra wrote back right away and was like "hey! what are you doing up! I'm only up cuz I'm writing a paper!" and I had to be all like, "hahaha oh no I stay up far later than this all too often." It was cute.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Possibly Britney Spears songs with designated free improv sections?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

EXPERIMENTAL

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

I think that could work with "Baby One More Time."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I want to cover an obscure Britney Spears B-side.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

(sadly, I actually think this is a good idea)

xpost, that or Toxic

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I scoff at the hits.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Scoff, I tell you!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Does Britney have hot album tracks? I guess I don't even know.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I want to cover some of the New Mickey Mouse Club shit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Old school.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Hell yeah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Back when it was all about the music.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Cover her Pepsi ad that played before every single movie ever in the summer of 2001, barring that, do "Lucky".

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

why not "email my heart" or whatever that technological love song is?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Btw, when I turned on the tv last night for the first time in months, the first thing I heard was M.I.A. on that Honda ad. WTF!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

why not "email my heart" or whatever that technological love song is?

Because it's not a very good song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

it is when you MAKE IT YOUR OWN!!!

p.s. wanna go to circus on saturday?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Early Saturday? Like the 4:30 show?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know there was more than one. sure.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

That's what the Reader said. I'd prefer to do that, so that my evening will be free. Let's do it!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Isn't clap joor hands sold out? I'm not going to be in town anyway.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

It is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Hi from the Apple Store on Michigan Ave. Show's at 9 tonight. Low-low-key, unless all the disappointed Jandek fans show up.

Re: Squeezed -- you should kill two birds with one stone and do a live version of "In The Kitchen" with dance accompaniment.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

My housemate bought tickets a while ago, evidently, and offered the second to me 'cause he couldn't find anyone else to go with, I guess. I've barely even heard much of their stuff.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

10/28 Broken Social Scene, Feist @ Metro

I'm wondering about this show. Hold Steady is the same night. I dont' care for Logan Square Aud, but I also don' care for BSS.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

The other question, of course, is if I come out in early November, could someone help get me a show, and does anyone want to be in my band for the night.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

I'll play drums if you want, Chris. :>

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Chris -- I bet I could help you find a show. Actually, you should play on a bill with Eric (Eazy)!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, we could definitely find you a show somewhere if you get us some actual dates soon. I can play bass or guitar for you if you need.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

So is anyone going to that New Black show Saturday? huh huh?

Also, who wants to see Veruca Salt with me in November??

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Wake up, everyone! I'm bored and Nick has the day off!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Pajamas & brandy?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

No, well, probably not. He's picking up his sister from the train station and hanging out with her today.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Is Nick's sister, you know, like Nick?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I tried doing my set of fall songs, and after my own chipper contribution the songs just got darker and darker and the audience laughed more and more because one topped the other in its morbidity. Fun night.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

As first I read "fall songs" to mean "songs by The Fall," and I had a good chuckle thinking of you imitating Mark E. Smith. The thing is, you could probably do it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

She looks a lot like Nick, anyway. She lives in New York, but is stopping by here on her way to India.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Good morning Chicago!

I thought up this gem in the shower this morning:

Sex in the garden, over by the peas
Let's avoid the flowers, I got allergies

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you should avoid the garden altogether.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

Nice, Amanda! Keep going!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the office, over by the fax
Let's get on the copier, immortalize our cracks

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm only capable of employing the Weird Al School of Songwriting

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I ran into K@sia, my friend who works at 1PG, and she said you emailed her and she emailed back and then she never heard from you...what happened?

Oh shit. I don't know. Maybe she got filed under junk mail somehow? Shit shit shit.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

fuck yeah! that's awesome!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

p.s. chris...i could play harmonica for you.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm feeling frustrated right now. I stayed up too late AGAIN last night, even though last night was supposed to be my catch-up night, so I'm tired again this morning.

Then my singles reviews aren't up on Stylus for some reason; the editor says he didn't notice the e-mail, but I have no idea if/when they'll actually be printed.

And then apparently I was too late with turning in a Top 50 Movies 2000-04 list. All week, I've been paring it down, making decisions, but I wake up today and find that it's already been tabulated and blurb assignments have been handed out. FUCK!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

You could tell us what movies you like. Then we'll get the unfiltered jaymc list.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if I saw 50 movies period between 2000 and 2004, let alone new movies.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

I saw a lot of horrifically shitty movies with Dan because he used to review one movie a week, and it had to be one that had a national release. So I saw (are you ready?) fear dot com. It was the worst movie I think I've ever seen.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

On the upside, the tickets were tax deductible.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the theater, in between the aisles
Smother you with butter, while you watch Julia Stiles

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

i'm getting my hair cut tomorrow & i have no clue what i want.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which, we've decided to go see a movie tonight at this theater that has couches and booze and stuff. What should we see? Here's the listing:

An Unfinished Life (PG-13) » Review
FRI-THU 12:30, 2:45, 5, 7:15, 9:30
Corpse Bride (PG)
FRI-THU 12:30, 2:30, 4:30, 6:30, 8:45
Cry Wolf (PG-13)
FRI 6:45, 9; SAT-SUN NOON, 2:15, 4:30, 6:45, 9; MON-THU 6:45, 9
Flightplan (PG-13)
FRI-THU NOON, 12:45, 2:15, 3, 4:30, 5:15, 6:45, 7:30, 9, 9:45
In Her Shoes (PG-13)
SAT 7:30 SNEAK
Just Like Heaven (PG-13) » Review
FRI-THU 12:15, 2:30, 4:45, 7, 9:15
Lord of War (R) » Review
FRI-THU 1, 3:45, 6:30, 9:30
Roll Bounce (PG-13) » Review
FRI-THU NOON, 2:20, 4:40, 7, 9:30
The 40-Year-Old Virgin (R) » Review
FRI-THU NOON, 2:20, 4:45, 7:15, 9:45
The Brothers Grimm (PG-13) » Review
FRI-THU 1, 3:45
The Constant Gardener (R)
FRI-THU 12:15, 3:15, 6:15, 9:15
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (PG-13) » Review
FRI-THU 12:30, 3:15, 6, 6:45, 8:45, 9:30
Transporter 2 (PG-13)
FRI 6:45; SAT 12:45, 2:45, 4:45; SUN 12:45, 2:45, 4:45, 6:45; MON-THU 6:45
Venom (R)
FRI 9; SUN-THU 9
Wedding Crashers (R) » Review
FRI-THU 12:45, 3:30, 6:15, 8:45

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

oooh! haircut! are you gonna go short?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

amanda, you are ON FIRE!!!! seriously, there's always room for you if you feel inspired to dance again.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I've never heard of Venom but it sounds awesome! Check it:

A resurrected corpse stalks a gaggle of teens through the Louisiana bayous in this mediocre horror potboiler. It goes in for lazy chemi-fog atmospherics over genuine scares. (M.S.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

i need haircut advice!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

seriously, there's always room for you if you feel inspired to dance again.
message received, captain.

Sex in a kayak, humping on the oar
Wear your life preserver, you filthy nasty whore

Haircut advice...let's see...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
28 Days Later (Boyle, 2003)
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)
Adaptation (Jonze, 2002)
All the Real Girls (Green, 2003)
Almost Famous (Crowe, 2000)
Amelie (Jeunet, 2001)
American Splendor (Berman and Pulcini, 2003)
Amores Perros (Gonzalez, 2000)
Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (McKay, 2004)
Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
Best in Show (Guest, 2000)
Bully (Clark, 2001)
Capturing the Friedmans (Jarecki, 2003)
Chuck and Buck (Arteta, 2000)
Collateral (Mann, 2004)
Company, The (Altman, 2003)
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
Dancer in the Dark (von Trier, 2000)
Dreamers, The (Bertolucci, 2004)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)
High Fidelity (Frears, 2000)
In the Bedroom (Field, 2001)
Jesus' Son (MacLean, 2000)
Kill Bill Volume One (Tarantino, 2003)
Kill Bill Volume Two (Tarantino, 2004)
Lilya 4-Ever (Moodysson, 2003)
Lost in Translation (Coppola, 2003)
Man Who Wasn't There, The (Coen, 2001)
Manchurian Candidate, The (Demme, 2004)
Memento (Nolan, 2001)
Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
Minority Report (Spielberg, 2002)
Morvern Callar (Ramsay, 2002)
Mulholland Drive (Lynch, 2001)
Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
Shaun of the Dead (Wright, 2004)
Sideways (Payne, 2004)
Spellbound (Blitz, 2003)
Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
Together (Moodysson, 2001)
Undertow (Green, 2004)
We Don't Live Here Anymore (Curran, 2004)
Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
Y Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron, 2002)
You Can Count on Me (Lonergan, 2000)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Jessa just called me. Apparently Neil Gaiman has written her into a short story called "How To Talk To Girls." So... that's pretty damn cool. She's achieved some sort of minor Tori status.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

sex in the bathroom on the toilet seat
rubbin' suds all over, takin' from my meat.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't get that one, but it's still somehow disgusting.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

hey! that's awesome for jessa! was gaiman taken with her or something?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

suds = bathroom thing & meat = cock

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

if i am to write like r. kelly, it need not make a lot of sense. that's my understanding.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

amanda is really a champion of this. i'm but a mere, bored follower in her footsteps.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Gaiman has been taken with her for a while now. They're online buddies. Of course, when she meets him in person she still loses her shit, because he's, like, totally dreamy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

The reason the movie list thing is so frustrating is that I have trouble pitching ideas for things to write about, and staff lists like that make it easy to just get an assignment. Plus, I would've liked to have had my votes count, and get a higher ranking for stuff like Eternal Sunshine, All the Real Girls, 25th Hour, You Can Count on Me, Mulholland Dr., Talk to Her, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Sorry: this day has not started well for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

how'd they meet?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

no kelsey, yours is SEXCELLENT.

All The Real Girls is one of my favorites. We tried to rent Undertow and the dvd was ALL screwed up, so I had to trade it in for a different movie. I would like to see the rest though. It looked good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

How to talk to Girls by Neil Gaiman: have a British accent and tell them you will turn them into wispy goth comic icons.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I have seen only 12 of those movies.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

undertow was only okay for me. creepy, though!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Amanda, Undertow is good, although All the Real Girls is his best, I think: it would've been in my top five for the decade so far. I'm too impatient to appreciate George Washington, I guess.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I've seen about 20 of those movies, jaymc. There's a few on there that I've been meaning to see, but never feel in the mood for because I've heard they're so sad/depressing (Dancer in the Dark, Amores Perros, etc.).

Tonight I am down to two choices: Flightplan or 40 Year Old Virgin. What to do?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

40 Year Old Virgin!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

huh. i've seen 36. who would've known?

also, i wasn't the biggest fan of punch drunk love, either.

i agree with amanda, 40 y.o. virgin is a great date movie.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

although, when i saw panic room, i did squeeze my then-boyfriend's arm a lot. flightplan seems a bit like panic room.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

speaking of! the teenage girl in the beginning of Undertow was the little girl in Panic Room!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

It does, Kelsey. I thought Panic Room was underrated, though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

i kinda want to see flightplan.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm not even going to try to compete with Amanda. That movie theater one hit a little close to home, in a good way.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

yowza! E-zeeee!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

huh. i've seen 36. who would've known?

You think the fact that half of those you actually saw WITH ME has something to do with it?

viz. All the Real Girls, Almost Famous, American Splendor, Best in Show, Chuck and Buck, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Dancer in the Dark, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, High Fidelity, In the Bedroom, Jesus' Son, Lilya 4-Ever, Mulholland Drive, Requiem for a Dream, Spellbound, Spirited Away, Talk to Her, Together, You Can Count on Me

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I've never had sex in a public place.

There.

I've said it.

The most "public" was pulled over, in a car at this abandoned farm house. It was too buggy to do it outside.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

At the union, at the club, on a mountain...yeah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

sex in the salon, over by the shears
smother you in mousse, lookin' in the mirrors

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I've done it in a parked car on a city street on more than one occasion. And once in a field. But never in "public."

Oh, except for the time I went down on a girl in the bathroom of a club. So maybe that counts.

― logged out again, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Ow! Butter rolls are soft! Shears are not!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

(No Elepant, Jaymc?)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

sex in the grocery, over by the soup
girl you so hot wanna cover you in poop.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Wtf, who is logging out on the Chicago thread? I thought we were better than that. Plus, if you're going to log out, say something more scandalous!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Nope, no Elephant. I think it's an extremely interesting movie but not always a good one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

it's a rule that you can't log out on the chicago thread. it's a community thing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

i was doing grocery too!

Sex at the grocery, over by the cheese
Your Charmin is so plump, babe, I'm givin it a squeeze

Sex at the grocery, by the frozen corn
I know you're probably freezing, but we make some good porn

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah -- no logging out. also, i've done it outside.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

i especially like the r. kelly "cover you in poop" line though. kudos, kelsey.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Plus, if you're going to log out, say something more scandalous!

Sorry. I was only trying to protect... um... my dignity.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

is outside over or under rated?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I think generally it's rated pretty highly, and rightly so, I think.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

although, my friend in CA just got a $250 ticket for skinny dipping, so don't get caught by cops.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the park, over by the zoo
Just the llamas, yaks, polar bears and you

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Sex on the water, rockin' on our boat
What's that over there, who's lookin' at us it's a goat?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Dr. Seuss is rolling in his grave.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

i like your use of r. kelly's compassion in the "know you're probably freezing" part yet, like r. kelly, you put the porn first.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I think it's an extremely interesting movie but not always a good one.

Then again, I included Requiem for a Dream, so a big whatever to that. (This is partially explainable by the fact that I wanted to include roughly ten films per year, and in many cases the ones I chose were on my actual top ten at the time.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

sex in the starbucks over by the java
girl just you wait, i'm gonna cover you in lava

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

A, I've heard stories of behind-the-sign-on-the-hill-leading-into-the-43022.

Requiem for a Dream is probably my least favorite movie of the past five years. Well-made technically, but for my personal tastes...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

(Guava, not lava!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

i'm taking creative liberty with "lava" here.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

guava would've been better.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Requiem for a Dream kind of isn't that good. SUCK IT, C0LIN SH3AFF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

haaaaaaaaahahahaha. lava.

EZ -- I wasn't exactly a humping machine in the 43022. A lack of cooperation contributed to my chastity.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I am spiraling into depression, guys.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Dude, it's Friday, aren't you doing anything fun this weekend?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I am spiraling into depression, guys.

You should hang out with me. Pity party!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

What makes R. Kelly's lyrics work, even while they seem absurd, is the complete lack of symbolism in his images. When he says t-shirt, he means t-shirt. When he says butter rolls, he means butter rolls. He's like a Dutch Master. But then, like an Italian religious painter, he combines that with proclamations about how he can fly, and how he wants to put his key in her ignition, and it's an almost outsider-art-ish combination of naturalistic detail and sweeping rhetorical metaphors.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes! I'm having dinner with folks tonight. I thought about going to see Isolee at the Empty Bottle later, but I might be TOO TIRED. (What else is new?) Tomorrow I'm going to a circus (not the circus but a circus) with Kelsey and then to Cut Copy at Subterranean at night. Sunday, of course, is our show in Madison. Sometime during this weekend I also have to write an article about PiL.

It's just ... what am I doing, you know?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

over the movie stuff?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

You should think about going back to school. You should be a teacher, jaymc. Feel the destiny.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Uh, jaymc, do you think you guys will have a guest list for the show?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

PiL reminds me of high school.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

over the movie stuff?

That's part of it.

You should think about going back to school. You should be a teacher, jaymc. Feel the destiny.

Will it help me get to bed on time?

Uh, jaymc, do you think you guys will have a guest list for the show?

Lemme check on that, J.

PiL reminds me of high school.

Haha, the article I'm writing is about how I've just listened to them for the first time. They kinda suck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

sex in the target by the tupperware
takin' off my t-shirt, girl you so bare.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Thanks. I'm glad I just looked at the Canasty website btw, I thought the show was at the High Noon again instead of the Annex.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

it's only passable b/c she was wearing HIS t shirt & it's his favorite thing in the whole world.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

jordan, i love that you call them canasty b/c i do it too!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

So, you're mad at yourself for not having the discipline to go to bed earlier when you know you'll pay for it the next day. It's a mild version of what junkies and alcoholics go through, knowing that something isn't good for you but waking up each day and doing it again.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

It's more than that, Eric.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

But essentially: yeah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, they do kinda suck. Pretty bad, I think. I could be wrong I could be right! I could be black I could be white! I could be right I could be wrong! I could be white I could be black!

xpost - -- I think that applies to anyone prone to self-destructive behavior, not just junkies and alcoholics. (food, relationships, etc)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

so is *that* why you're depressed?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I told you, it's a conflagration of things.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I mean, maybe I would've gotten my movie list together last night if I wasn't being stupid.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

sorry. just trying to get a grasp on what's going on. i'm having a hard time relating.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Being an alcoholic actually sounds good to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

i'm having a hard time relating.

That's because you're good and disciplined.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

oh, you don't mean that. it sounds like you have impossibly high standards that you're holding yourself to.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

SHIT -- i meant the bit about the alcoholic. not the bit about kelsey being disciplined!

AAAAAAAAAGH

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Never mind. I'll stop before I get too annoying.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I can help with that. Of course you may end up on our air mattress again.

xpost re: jaymc's career in alcholism

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

sorry about that people. i submitted HASTILY, before i read the other post. whooops. i really really really didn't mean for it to sound that way.

jaymc, if you ever decide that you want to be a teacher, i can talk you into it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

i think it's more b/c i'm having a hard time understanding why you're spiraling into depression over this. it's an issue to work on, for sure. but usually one might spiral into depression over issues outside their control. granted, this may feel like it's outside your control, but it is within your control with a little work.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if I trust myself, Amanda.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I would kill children if I was a teacher. By the classroom-full.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

And then they'd have to lock me away, and none of you would ever see or hear from me again. No. teaching is not for me.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

You mean being able to teach people effectively? Or hormonally?? You don't have to teach children -- I don't.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Erm ...

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

God, I am really not making the right kind of sense today. I think you know what I meant. I hope?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the projector room
Gettin' dirty knees
High on movie popcorn
We'll show them what's obscene

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

What do you mean "trust yourself"? That's what I should have said. I don't think you're a pervert or whatever it sounded like I meant before.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

sarah....nice!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

(No tenure for Jaymc!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I am clearly making this WORSE. Anyway, I find that teaching is a solid outlet for creativity and way more entertaining than sitting in an office. Hopefully I won't have to be here for much longer.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the closet
Just me and my mate
My cell phone is ringing
gotta put it on viiiiibrate

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

(I like keeping my personal life to myself, but...I'VE DONE THAT SARAH)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

College was all about doing sexual things in any place other than your dorm room where roommates might walk in on you. Um...

Kelsey, you should ask your stylist for advice.

John, my diagnosis is that you are overplaying yourself. I mean, you have a very full life, but it's wearing you down so much that you can't enjoy all of these things that are supposed to be FUN.

You should put that list of movies on your blog too.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I do know what you meant. I don't know if I should be answering this question. I need to talk about all this stuff with a therapist, anyway, not with you guys. Although I appreciate your care and concern for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

have you heard In the Closet Part 1? That's a very important aspect of the narrative!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

(xp That was to Amanda.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

I have heard in the closet 1 through 6.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

College was all about doing sexual things in any place other than your dorm room where roommates might walk in on you. Um...

Sigh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

The "Viiiiiibraaaate" part is my favorite bit of the whole series, for some reason.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Why are noize dudes always having meltdowns?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc - I hear you -- but if you ever seriously consider it, I can give you a list of reasons why you would be an excellent teacher.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I know I would be! For a good part of my life, I wanted to be a teacher. I just got derailed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Also, I hate speaking of relationships as cure-alls, but I think I need a girlfriend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Re: derailing: Me too. See: 1997-2003.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the student lounge, you're wearin' dirty clothes
Baby keep an eye out, I'll lose my camisole

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the carrells, girl we gotta cram
Open up it's time for your take-home exam

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

John, you should ask your stylist for advice.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Sex in your bunk bed, keepin' it down low
You say "Don't listen to my home boy, up on top gettin' blowed"

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Haha, Jordan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

(I like keeping my personal life to myself, but...I'VE DONE THAT SARAH)
Dude, me too.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I can only write about what I already know.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Sigh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

sex in the grocery store, by the frozen peas
Boy I wanna taste you, on my knees.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Sex at the Ren Faire, by the butter churn
You don't know how to fence yet? Girl, you betta learn

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

No.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Sex at the Ren Faire, up on by the meade
I'm not like those other guys, who look like dude from Creed

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

haaaaaaaaa. man that's good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Ahahahahahaha!

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Jordan wins

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't get points for innovation, volume and consistency?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

You're the champ Amanda, that was just a lucky shot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I know a great therapist!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Have you guys heard that song playing on the radio right now that goes, "my hump, my hump my hump my hump, my lovely lady lumps, my lovely lady lumps..." It's AWESOME!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

kelsey, i want you to get a cute short haircut, maybe flapper-style with layers around the face.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost - osteoporosis in the house!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Is it inadvisable to see a therapist that a friend sees? I've wondered about that. Do people get recommendations?

Have you guys heard that song playing on the radio right now that goes, "my hump, my hump my hump my hump, my lovely lady lumps, my lovely lady lumps..." It's AWESOME!

Yeah, I kinda like it, too -- but a lot of people hate on it just because it's Black Eyed Peas. I think I like "Don't Phunk with My Heart" better, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Sex at the Jewel, next to the spice rack
Don't worry baby 'bout the cumin on your back

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

haha

cumin on T's

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

I wanted to have "cumin on the rack" but I couldn't get the rhyme right.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Sex at the circus, by the tall trapeze
I'll do you upside down, girl, hanging from yo' knees

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

That's brilliant.

Sex in the spice store, all up in the back
Girl come over here I'll put my cumin on your rack

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

haha Amanda!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

These are like very austere limericks.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Sex

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Sex

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Cheese

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Academia

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Eleanor Roosevelt was an exceedingly good woman.

With that, I'm off to lunch.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

You're right, Amanda, my judgement was too quick.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Sex in the AV Room, by the projector
Don't have a condom? use a pocket protector.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Good one!

DUDES, Nick is having a horrible day off. He was supposed to pick up his sister at 8:30 from the train station. Now it's 1:30. Amtrack screwed up so he didn't know when her train finally came in, then he returned home to find a million messages from her saying she was trying to figure out how to get there. And it sounds like she might be riding an el train to a different Damen stop. NOOOOO!!!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea that was the black eyed peas. The female rapper in the song isn't that chick who dances around in the BEP, I hope. I want her to be cooler than that.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, have you guys heard this song "Stilletos (Pumps)" by Crime Mob? My gf just sent me the mp3 and it's seriously hilarious. Sounds like the female version of lil' Jon.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

The female rapper in the song isn't that chick who dances around in the BEP, I hope. I want her to be cooler than that.

I think it is. I know what you mean, though. She sounds so cute and sexy on the song. But Fergie is not cute and sexy.

Oh man, have you guys heard this song "Stilletos (Pumps)" by Crime Mob?

Yup. My brother put that on a mix CD for me a few months ago!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

sweet fucking jesus - i really really like a black eyed peas song

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

xpost. John, that makes me kind of sad. I don't love Fergie.

One of the things I think is so funny about this song is that the female vox are AWESOME and ridiculous and sexy and sassy and OFF THE HOOK, but then the guy's vox are completely predictable and sound like a very very lofi r&B act, singing, "She got me spendin'..."

Black Eyed Peas - My Humps Lyrics

What you gon’ do with all that junk?
All that junk inside your trunk?
I’ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my hump.
My hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump,
My hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely little lumps. (Check it out)

I drive these brothers crazy,
I do it on the daily,
They treat me really nicely,
They buy me all these ice-ys.
Dolce & Gabbana,
Fendi and then Donna
Karan, they be sharin’
All their money got me wearin’
Fly gearrr but I ain’t askin,
They say they love my ass ‘n,
Se7en Jeans, True Religion,
I say no, but they keep givin’
So I keep on takin’
And no I ain’t taken
We can keep on datin’
I keep on demonstrating.

My love, my love, my love, my love
You love my lady lumps,
My hump, my hump, my hump,
My humps they got u,
She’s got me spending.
(Oh) Spendin’ all your money on me and spending time on me.
She’s got me spendin’.
(Oh) Spendin’ all your money on me, on me, on me

What you gon’ do with all that junk?
All that junk inside that trunk?
I’ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my hump.
What u gon’ do with all that ass?
All that ass inside them jeans?
I’m a make, make, make, make you scream
Make u scream, make you scream.
Cos of my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump.
My hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lumps. (Check it out)

I met a girl down at the disco.
She said hey, hey, hey yea let’s go.
I could be your baby, you can be my honey
Lets spend time not money.
I mix your milk wit my cocoa puff,
Milky, milky cocoa,
Mix your milk with my cocoa puff, milky, milky riiiiiiight.

They say I’m really sexy,
The boys they wanna sex me.
They always standing next to me,
Always dancing next to me,
Tryin’ a feel my hump, hump.
Lookin’ at my lump, lump.
U can look but you can’t touch it,
If u touch it I’ma start some drama,
You don’t want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
So don’t pull on my hand boy,
You ain’t my man, boy,
I’m just tryn’a dance boy,
And move my hump.

My hump, my hump, my hump, my hump,
My hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump.
My lovely lady lumps x3
In the back and in the front.
My lovin’ got u,
She’s got me spendin’.
(Oh) Spendin’ all your money on me and spending time on me.
She’s got me spendin’.
(Oh) Spendin’ all your money on me, on me, on me.

What you gon’ do with all that junk?
All that junk inside that trunk?
I’ma get, get, get, get you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my hump.
What you gon’ do with all that ass?
All that ass inside them jeans?
I’ma make, make, make, make you scream
Make you scream, make you scream.
What you gon do with all that junk?
All that junk inside that trunk?
I’ma get, get, get, get you drunk,
Get you love drunk off this hump.
What you gon’ do wit all that breast?
All that breast inside that shirt?
I’ma make, make, make, make you work
Make you work, work, make you work.
She’s got me spendin’.
Spendin all your money on me and spendin’ time on me
She’s got me spendin’.
Spendin’ all your money on me, on me, on me.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

That is awful, Sarah.

Jaymc, I will put some awesome female rapping on the mix cd that I have yet to make for you (but will this weekend).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, I'm sure you mean Nick's situation is awful, not those lyrics. :-D

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Excellent, Jordan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I meant Nick's situation is awful, not the BEP. Although they might be awful too, I haven't fully decided yet.

xpost, ha

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Poor Nick -- I was just over by the Amtrack station but I didn't see Nick or a female sister-Nick.

Wasn't Fergie on Kids, Inc.?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

re: therapists

I have no idea actually, I can actually ask her to recommend some of her colleges though. But if you're serious you may need to check to see who is your insurance network first.

I never talk about anyone from ILX in therapy though, not even Kenan.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

You can talk about me in therapy if you want to, Jeff. You can tell funny stories about me falling down.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

OK now I've got "Treat Your Mother Right" by Mr. T. This is even worse, yet oh so much greater.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

The other day someone bingoed on me with AMTRACS. Never heard the word before.

Main Entry: am·trac
Variant(s): or am·track /'am-"trak/
Function: noun
Etymology: amphibious + tractor
: a flat-bottomed military vehicle that moves on tracks on land or water

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I've read the Resfest thread, and I still have no idea what it is. Something about movies.

I want it to be RESTFEST 2005.
http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/sleeping.jpg

Everybody relax!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

the Fergie section on "G0 Fug Yours3lf" is enough to amuse me for days.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

xposttimesamillionpostsago

i don't know if i want to go too short yet. i like being able to pull my hair back at the gym.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

john: check yer email.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

For kicks, would you consider using this virtual makeover tool and posting your results?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

eh. it's too complicated to try & do when i should be working. too obviously not working.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

sorry to be a thread killer. . . .

where is errbody?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

here! i just thought i would get some work done before anyone gets on my back about not doing it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

i mean, geez . . . we have MY HAIR to think about here!!!

what's everyone's weekend plans?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Tonight: Gym, friend's art opening (from 6-9pm at G2, which is on the corner of Jackson and Peoria, plugplugplug), C1ap Yer Hand5 etc etc etc and the Nat10nal @ Schuba's. There will be drinking in between and during some events.

Tomorrow: Gym, Garfield Park Conservatory, dinner and/or movie with the gf.

Sunday: Laundry, possible mindless football watching.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

you have to pay $15 to that site to upload a photo!!! internet superhighway robbery!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

I thought we were going to have friends visit, but they bowed out at the last minute (yesterday) so 1)I might teach tomorrow, if my friend needs me as a sub 2) going to lunch with my friend who came in from Ohio for the Renegade Craft Fair 3) going to see Curse of the Cat People at the Music Box with Dan. That pretty much does it. Not a lot of action this weekend.

you mean the makeover site? i loaded a photo for free.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i couldn't get to a spot where i could load a photo for free.

when's the craft fair & where? maybe i'll bike down there tomorrow or something...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

found the site! nevermind!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, Kenan, (or anyone else) I don't know what we're doing with my sister tonight, but if you want to hang out, give us a call. I'm pretty beat right now but maybe I'll wake up later.

We'll probably walk through the craft fair at some point tomorrow given its proximity to our humble abode.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Call me if you're there between 1 and 4 (or so) and wanna say hi!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

are you driving down? b/c if you want to bike down, i'll bike with you (if i may be so bold) . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Dan might be coming too, so we're probably taking the train (train + North Ave bus) since parking is gonna suck. Also, confession time, I'm afraid of riding my bike long distances on the street.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

I had to go next-day Fedex a bass drum to Cambridge, MA for another NOLA brass band. $276. It was some stupid shit, this didn't have to be left until the last minute. At least I'll get paid back for it eventually.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

if you ever feel brave, i promise i can help make your ride feel safer & more comfortable. damen is a great road for cyclists. GREAT.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I saw that brass band at Monroe & Wabash today, can't remember their name -- they're the ones who challenge any band to the title of "best band in Chicago" and they're great.

Is this fair the one at DePaul?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

ok kelsey- maybe sometime i can brave it. something about the whizzing of cars makes me feel within an inch of my life. i also don't have a helmet.
EZ = it's in Wicker Park, in the park. right?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

I saw that brass band at Monroe & Wabash today, can't remember their name -- they're the ones who challenge any band to the title of "best band in Chicago" and they're great.

Hypnotic Brass Ensemble.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i have an extra helmet that you can have. you'll eventually want a better one, but you can have this one. i think i actually have three you can pick from...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

The craft fair is in Wicker Park, yes.

I gave myself the most F'n cute makeover EVER on that site today. Then I tried to save it. I needed to login. I created a profile, got the email, activated it, and it made me start over. I did that and then it turns out you can only save it if you put your original photo on their server, which is probably what kelsey ran up against. So then I was like SCREW IT!!! But man, you guys, was I ever lookin' cute.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

i don't know how you can top the cute of daily sarah mclusky...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Thank you, Daaaaarlink. It was like this:
Me + Drew Barrymore's hairstyle but in violet + leopard print retro oversized dark sunglasses + hunting cap

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

tee hee! that sounds awesome.
I feel like i'm flirting with all the ladies today.
maybe we (the ladeez) should have our biannual lingerie pillow fight!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

I just choked on my water.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

SO NO ONE WANTS TO HANG OUT 2NITE? BAH HUMBUG!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I AM SOMEWHAT INEBRIEATED.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Is it from all that brie you've been eating?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

sarah - i saved mine as a screenshot, then edited it in photoshop. i didn't add makeup or a hat, but my new coif is tres flattering.

VOILA!

http://tinypic.com/dxxlyf.jpg

PILLOW FIGHT!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

OH WELL TIME TO DRICVE TO SARAH'S WORK AND PICKE HER UP!~

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

i fucking love that photo.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

nick, hand over the keys buddy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah really -- you're not driving ANYwhere!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Nick: I'm going to Restaurant Club tonight, but I'm pretty tired, so if I do go out, I was gonna go see Isolee at the Empty Bottle. If not, I'll probably just head home early.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, if you'd made the hair orange it would have been cheetolicious.

John, come see the new black tomorrow night, ya'll.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I tried to make one but my head was in 3/4 so everything turned out lopsided, so I gave myself purple eyes and the horrible blonde Beyonce shag with brown hoochiemama lipliner.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Who are the New Black? I'm going to Cut Copy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

i googled "haircuts" & got this!

1http://ringalpacas.tripod.com/New%20haircuts.JPG

awwwww....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

oops!

http://ringalpacas.tripod.com/New%20haircuts.JPG

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

OMG look at their CHINS! i love animal chins.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

The New Black

Patti from the Dials is in it.
Also see: this week's reader.
Also, I have the first album and it rules.
Also, this is the record release party for the new album.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

you would probably like the chins on my rats (as long as you're okay with rats). they are quite the charmers. i do agree with you on the alpacas....and animal chins in general, really.
i think i've noticed them but not nec. the "chin theme" as they say.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

here's a cute rat chin:

http://www.ratzenet.de/pieselb.jpg

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

and this one is cute too....none of these guys look like my rats, though.

http://www.rat-alog.com/Miscellaneous/Anathema.jpg

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Plug for local sex shop that I like:

On the 24th from 7-10 Early to Bed is having a 4th anniversary sale. 10% off everything in the store.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh MY GOD, those rat chins are exquisite.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

and here i thought rats were a thread killer!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

i love their little recessed chins. my dogs are like that too. large upper lip, weak little chin. SO CUTE.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

i know!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

i love that you love animal chins.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

"Early to Bed", haha excellent.

I'll probably be leaving soon. Jaymc, I don't know what my Sunday is going to look like, but def. give me a call when you get into town and know what's going on.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

have a great weekend everyone!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

what's not to love! look at those CHINS! i think i tend to like chins in general.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Early to Bed is the only sex shop you'll ever need. I love that place. John and Jenny and Jeff and Jessie and I staggered in there hung over one morning, and I think we all bought something. And then I left my cock ring on the bar at Big Chicks and forgot about it and I was sad. Good times.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Funny story: I didn't buy the cock ring at Early to Bed. Just had it in my bag. Because you never know.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

enjoy your weekend,everyone. always be closing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Will do so, Jordan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Schuba's was crowded last night. And I got called a "meathead" by some drunk dude who was wandering around bumping into people. He was pissed when he bumped into me and I didn't move, I guess. Too bad it wasn't a punk show, he would have been on the ground.

Clap jer Hand5 was good, although their singer reminds me of a drunk Gordon Gano.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Saturday, 24 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand the "although" in that sentence, shouldn't it be "because"?

We got food at Irazu, came home and watched Wet Hot American Summer, went out to Club Foot with Kenan, came home and made frozen pizza and watched Arrested Development.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I've been hanging out with my downstairs neighbors a lot lately, in their club/apartment, sipping expensive liquors and watching David Attenborough docs because that's what they've been downloading, apparently. It's not a bad thing to have downloaded, I don't guess. Seems a touch odd for 24 year old club kids to be obsessed with the BBC of the 70's, but hey, it's their club. And both of them have impossibly hot girlfriends. Like, impossibly. Smart, interesting, good conversationalists, exotically beautiful, dark-skinned, piercing eyes, just amazing girlfriend material, both of them. And I'm looking at these club dorks thinking, "Who are you people?" I think they might be magical. Or maybe it's just that they have the most awesome apartment in Chicago. That could help.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

So yeah, that's what I did after Club Foot.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and the Attenborough docs? Projected on the wall, in surround sound. You need that kind of system if you're going to have a club.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

You guys have to come to their next party. It's worth 5 bucks just to see their space. And that also gets you free beer all night, so.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Clap jer Hand5 was good, although their singer reminds me of a drunk Gordon Gano.

I actually had this thought, too. I mean, at first I was like OMG he sounds like David Byrne. Then I thought, well maybe a little Dean Wareham, too. And then I figured throw a little Gordon Gano in there, and you've got it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like my favorite vocalist ever.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Sounds fun, PS.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

40 Year Old Virgin was really quite funny.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I might be seeing that tomorrow, finally, after A History of Violence.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I learned last night that Nick likes (the first two) Elvis Costello albums, which surprised me, but I have to learn to stop being surprised by Nick listening to something, since I have NO IDEA what Nick's musical tastes encompass, and I should assume they encompass a whole lot. I am not the world's only cool person, and I should remember that.

Also, Joe Jackson Look Sharp is nearly as good as This Year's Model, and every bit as angry. That's what I'm listening to this morning.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, can you send me some of the pics you took a few weeks ago when we all got fabulously drunk at that party? There are a couple of good ones of me, I recall.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

haha "fabulously"

Yeah, I'll dig those up and sent them to your gmail.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Excellent.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Ok, sending several pics as we speak... you, me, Jeff and Jenny, Jesse holding my cock ring, you and me cuddling. They were in a folder called "that_night".

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

There are also a lot of pictures of people in that folder that I do not know, never have known, and am not likely to see again. Someone take my camera away.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Also, I don't know if there are any "good" pictures of anyone in this folder. Hilarious, yes.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

I managed to get beaten up last night :(

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Uhhhh... are you okay??

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

i have a split lip, which was bleeding quite badly last night, but seems ok now. my friend sami got a black eye, my friend nishad has a swollen jaw. some fucking inbred OC burnout guy who was super fucked up started some shit with us -- with a classicist, an art historian, a critical theoretician, and a guy who studies video games. it was a little unbalanced.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

where was this??

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

after going to a bar in c0sta mes@, we went to a 24 hr. mexican place, alejandro's...and dude walked up to us and started insulting us, and was probably just looking for a fight. i can tell you some more lurid details next time i talk to you.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

That's rotten, dude. I can't think of anyone who less deserves a split lip.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Ok, maybe Nelson Mandela. But you're high on the list.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

thanks, kenan. i was just trying to settle things down, and he swung at me. he also coldcocked my friend, hit him in the back of the head as we were walking away. whatta asshole.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Saturday, 24 September 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Don't start no shit with critical theoreticians, won't be no shit with critical theoreticians!

(I'm sorry, that sucks.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm at work btw. Hey.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

That sucks almost as much as a split lip.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Uh oh, we're having second thoughts about this evening's plans (the New Black at the Hideout). We might be too full and lazy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 September 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Cut Copy was awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 25 September 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)

We ended up going to the Hideout after all. It was fun even though the opening band cancelled so we ended up being there 2+ hours before the New Black started. But I did a good job of schmoozing with various local music types.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

oh good, sleepy.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

who the fuck are people?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

So we were riding the escaltar up at Philly airport, and everyone is just standing there at the top where people get off, and I almost smash into a handful of people. So I exclaim, "these people need to move the fuck up!" Then I realize that everyone of these people is like 6'6" 350lbs. Then I realize these people are the oakland raiders. Then we try and sneak in through their security line instead of the long ass one for regular sized people. We did not pass.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

AH FUCK. I looked at the clock this morning and thought I was late for work, got up thinking of what I wouldn't give for another hour of sleep, and now that I'm all ready I see that IT'S AN HOUR EARLIER THAN I THOUGHT. Somehow. I hate myself.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I'm better now.

That's funny, Jeff. I didn't know football teams got their own security lines.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

hi there peoples. i have a rilly rilly rilly bad headache that i can still feel behind the haze of the medicine i took.

kenan, those people who live below you sound impossibly cool -- i didn't know that people that cool actually existed. are they from the US? (i'm partly kidding, but partly not. where do people that cool come from?)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Hey, guys. I had a pretty fun weekend, but I didn't enjoy throwing up most of Friday night instead of sleeping. Also, this morning I woke up to that same horrible allergic reaction I had @ 1 1/2 months ago. Fortunately, I still have the meds for it. So I smeared these two creams all over my face, but it's still itchy and, due to said creams, glossy like hell. And I can't wear makeup. I look frightening. :-(

Robots, I'm sorry you got beat up. More power to you.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

You should have beat the shit out of those inconsiderate Oakland Raiders.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

sarah! no! that sucks. why were you puking? bad food? i'm sorry we didn't come over on saturday. i couldn't really say it at the time, but dan and i were both a little crabby and socializing would not have been the answer.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, I don't know why I was throwing up exactly. Firstly, I have a very weak stomach. I throw up once every 2 months or so, just for kicks. I usually don't know why. The last time was heat exhaustion @ Intonation, but it's usually some kind of food poisoning. Friday night I ate WAY too much and had some horrible food combos. Quick gross review:
* a beer right after I got home from work, which I never do
* Irazu food, including an oatmeal shake, at like 5 when I wasn't really that hungry yet
* coffee to wake me back up after eating & having beer
* 2 gin & tonics when we went out with Kenan
* pizza when I got back home

TA DA!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, boy. I only asked because I'm prone to puking myself. Not because I like it(duh), just because it's my bod's first line of defense, I guess. I usually puke when I have these headaches, but this morning I didn't eat breakfast until I got here, and then I had dry cereal. Let's cross our fingers.

That combination of beverages is enough to cause weird chemical reactions in the tum, though. Yipes.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if jaymc is awake yet. I thought didn't get enough sleep, but he had to drive back from Madison last night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I will say, though, that the ABSOLUTE BEST thing there was K. Thor Jensen's wordless minicomic adaptation of R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet, pts. 1-5," starring Batman. Um... wow.

(SPX 2005 Wrap-Up Thread!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was considering trying to get one of them to punch me, so I could get some cash out of a shitful situation. He probably would have hit my face though. The one we met in the line for a turkey sandwich was nice though.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm nervous, guys. I'm signing up for a clinical trial at Rush University Medical Center, and the last time I was on meds, it was a Really Bad Time. I was misdiagnosed and wrongly medicated. At least Rush Hospital seems to have its shit together a little more than Ye Olde Free Ghetto Clinic, which is where I had to go last time, but still.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Sorry. Threadkill.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

rush is a good place--they try to be thorough, and they've done lots of trials along those lines over the years (my mom tried to convince me to look into them several times, except, um, i wasn't clinically depressed. i actually called them once and they were like, why are you calling us?).

the docs i saw there listened to me, sent me to specialists when there were questions to look into, tested me to high heaven to try to figure something out. if i was having a bad reaction to a drug, they were responsive to that rather than being assholes.

i really hope this helps you, kenan... (xp)

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

i was thinking of saying something, but i didn't know what to say. i think it's brave of you (and also wise) to participate in the study. they certainly sound like they have their shit together there, and it's free therapy too, so who could argue with that?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

No, that's interesting. I assume you're doing this to get meds you need for free/cheap, not just for cash. My college roomie and his brother did drug tests for cash once and met some interesting characters who basically did drug studies as a job.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I assume you're doing this to get meds you need for free/cheap, not just for cash.

I will not say no to the cash.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

i've heard of people like that, who just do the human guinea pigginess thing for money. i can't imagine, though it's true, you make good money for studies.

i was in a mayo study once and made $75 and was so proud (it didn't involve drugs, just docs digging at my nervous system). i have scars to show for it, but dude, cash for docs poking at you? sure.

xp yes cash is nice.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm also looking for jobs again this morning. Yesterday I, in the words of Bob Dylan, "gave myself a good talking to." I would like to live to see 50, plz.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Amen. (PS -- No one has called you about the one here?)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Hey kids - I'm paying a flying visit to Chi-Town this week. Is anything going on Thursday night? Would anyone fancy a beverage with a lonesome Britisher? Alternatively, are any of you going to see Arcade Fire on Wednesday night?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

(PS -- No one has called you about the one here?)

Nah. I wasn't holding my breath for that, anyway. I would be surprised if they did call.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

haha Yeah, this job.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Jerry - nothing I know of is happening Thurs. night. But a get-together could probably be arranged. Where are you staying?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Do you have any input into which group you are placed?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Hey everyone. I totally drove back from Madison last night, yes. I went to bed at around 3:30 feeling absolutely exhausted, but oddly enough, I feel really alert this morning.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Aha, I don't know yet where I'm staying. Somewhere downtown near wherever the AF are playing, I imagine - The Riviera Theatre, apparently?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

How was der show? Did you wow the up-and-coming CLAP YER HANDS? Did you steal their brews?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

So on Saturday I was very bored with the driving CD, so I asked Adrian to pick, and he put in a totally unfamiliar one, which I realized was Talking Heads that I got for $1 at a garage sale and never listened to. Anyway, I didn't know that the chorus to Ludacris's Sugar was originally a Talking Heads song. That's how out of touch I am.
I'm also trying to hunt down a Gogol Bordello album but no store here has it, so I'm off to hunt on thee "internet".

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I thought the show was good! I had fun watching Canasta. They were very well-dressed.

I missed the Super Eights, but the three songs I saw of CYHSY (before wussing out and going home to bed, even though I stayed up until 1:30 anyway) were pretty good. Not my thing exactly, but I could see why the waifish indie kids like them. The singer does kinda sound/act like David Byrne, he was my favorite part.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I love the song in "Stop Making Sense" where Byrne dances with the floor lamp and his shadow gets thrown all over the place. Stop Making Sense rulez.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

The show was good! It was sold-out, so lots of kids were there, and we ended up selling like 15 CDs. Response seemed to be good; CYHSY were really nice guys; etc.

HOWEVER: my keyboard decided to malfunction shortly before we went on stage, so I was kind of stressed out. Basically, the "attack" was randomly changing without me turning any dials or pressing any buttons; I came up with a couple of quick fixes, but on a few songs, the keyboard was pretty much MIA. I'm really hoping that it was a one-time thing, but I'm scared it's not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Jocelyn, you would've known that about "Sugar on My Tongue" if you had read this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

I am a bad friend : ( And I will read it right now.
I will also say that the Happiness of the Katakuris is one of the funniest movies I have ever seen.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

That song with the lamp is "This Must Be The Place". In my senior year of high school, the local art-house movie theater starting showing Stop Making Sense on Friday nights (to go along with Rocky Horror on Saturday nights). There was dancing in the aisles. Very fun time. A concert movie in a theater at midnight, so that you can dance -- what an idea!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I don't expect people to read everything I write! It's just a short little thing, anyway. Too bad you can't download the mp3s anymore.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I remember seeing Stop Making Sense when I was really little -- my dad was a Talking Heads fan -- but haven't seen it since. I'd like to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I can lend it to you, I have the awesome DVD. There are seperate commentaries by David Byrne and Tina Weymouth & Chris Frantz, because Byrne and Weymouth hate each other so much.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh! Oh! Me next!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Or we can all just watch it at my house. I love it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

(I'm staying at the Holiday Inn at 506 West Harrison, I've just been informed.)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Give it to Kenan. I have trouble actually watching movies at home on my own. I am going to try to get better about this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen SMS since they stopped showing interesting stuff on Bravo. Perhaps 10 years ago?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

506 W. Harrison? Interesting. That's South Loop. Not a whole lot going on around there. And not exactly close to the Riviera, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

My mom loves that dvd - she has it too (Nick got it for her).

― Elephant Woman (coco), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I almost ordered a Gogol Bordello album after reading Jess's review, because I thought Maddie might like it. Then I walked into her room yesterday and she was listening to GB mp3's without my assistance. Then I told her the dude is starring in the Jonathan Safran Foer movie and she stopped listening to it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Or we can all just watch it at my house. I love it.

Or both! I want to put it on my computer and turn up the stereo real loud and dance around in a manic fit of tics and oddities.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

What are you talking about? That's where the Greyhound station is!

xxpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

The website says:

Conveniently located in the heart of downtown Chicago's dynamic West Loop neighborhood, the closest hotel to Union Station (Amtrak), short walking distance to Sears Tower, University of Illinois Chicago campus & the UIC Pavilion, Board of Trade, Civic Opera House and Greek Town. Close to Rush Presbyterian Medical Center, McCormick Place, Grant Park, The Art Institute, Shedd Aquarium, Field Museum, Navy Pier and fabulous shopping on State Street and Michigan Avenue's "Magnificent Mile."

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I always walk by that Holiday Inn when I'm going to the post office with the 24-hour teller.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah, all of those places are certainly close enough. But I don't think the immediate neighborhood is all that interesting. But whatever: I haven't actually spent much time around there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, did you guys end up going to Ian's?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

It'll be a little bit of a walk through downtown to get to the El (to get to the Arcade Fire show), but as long as the weather's good it's OK.

(Where's our gal Kelsey this morning? Minnesota?)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I spent a good portion of my day on Friday in and around Union Station and there is NOTHING around there.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Read the last post on this thread for the gory details:
Amtrak - Classic or dud?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, where's that post office? A human or a machine? I like the machines that weigh your packages for you. Yeah, that's not really all that close to the Riv, but it's closer than, say, O'Hare.

PS-- My hott office is right around there. So yeah, there's not a lot around there, particularly at night. You should try out Cal's though, on Van Buren. They have crazy cheap drinks.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh well. I know Chicago fairly well so I don't mind straying further from the hotel if anyone fancies meeting up.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

2 times, Nick. I had a temp job in that neighborhood, and then had to do an emergency pick-up at the Greyhound station (friend missed his connection in the late, late evening) and there's not a lot of interest in that general area. Catch a bus/train up north and it's a different story, but you're not going to walk a couple blocks and find the good shit down 'round there.

xpost What everyone else said

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, did you guys end up going to Ian's?

It was closed! Elizabeth REALLY wanted pizza, though, so we just went to Papa John's around the corner. Not nearly as satisfying.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't mean to sound like a downer, it's just that it sounds like the hotel is exaggerating a lil' bit.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

(Also I think I can claim taxi fares as expenses.)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

And yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to be pessimistic, Jerry! I think I should be able to meet up on Thursday, too!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I love the new automatic package machines at the post office. Saves so much time waiting in line. The one on Harrison, right by the Chicago River, actually has 24-hour counter service. I've been there a few times at 11:45 p.m. when sending off something that needs to be postmarked by a certain date.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

That is heartbreaking. According to their website, they only stay open until midnight on Sundays. Lazy bastards.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

According to their website, they only stay open until midnight on Sundays

I think we got there at 11:45? Maybe business was slow so they shut down early.

As for Kelsey: she was in town this weekend (we went to the TAG circus together on Saturday night), so maybe she'll pop in later.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

We (the FFs) played at Cal's! It was fun.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

i love that place (cal's). it's perfect for the after-work g&t. i don't do it often, but when i do, at least i can afford it.

not related: why do i dislike the word "functionality" so much? is it because it seems like 5 syllables is a little much for such a stupid word? bleccch.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I like that word! It makes me sound professional.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

well, i guess there aren't any synonyms. i'm just being fussy. words and numbers are equal offenders for me. there's no sense to it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Btw, I listened to the C@n@st@ cd in the car last night and this morning. It's good! The arrangements and sound of the cd and the live show are remarkably similar.

You guys kind of remind me of this band from Madison called Mabel, except better. They moved to Chicago awhile back (to "make it big", ha), actually. I had a crush on their cello player.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Just plain Mabel? There was a band named Mabel Mabel who I saw once.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

(And thanks, btw!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I think it's just Mabel, but it looks like they may have broken up.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Although it's really weird that there would be Chicago bands called both Mabel and Mabel Mabel. I dunno.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I prefer Mabel Mabel 1979 to either of them.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

hahahahha. I also like Mabel Mabel US

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

The Chicago Mabel

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Mabel and the Mabels

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Clap Your Hands Say Mabel

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

US Mabel

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Death Cab for Mabel

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad it wasn't Mabel Mabel. I didn't like them very much. A review online says that one song of theirs "seamlessly incorporates the soaring, aching melodies and powerful throaty vocals of October Project, the note-perfect harmonies of the Indigo Girls, the transporting atmospherics of Enya and the candied musical literacy of lite jazz." I saw them on one of the weirdest bills ever, since my friends' post-hardcore indie-emo band opened. (This was at Nevins' in Evanston, right when they first started booking shows.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I just got a tray for my keyboard, to go under my desktop. I can't tell how I feel about it yet. It's nice that I can lean back in my chair more -- I don't have to be hunched over -- but it also requires my chair to be lower, and so I don't feel like I'm in control as much as I used to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh man I hate those things. Being a larger man, my knees really take a pounding if I'm not careful when moving them around underneath. I actually took a screwdriver and removed the one on my desk when I got my new computer.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Because the tiny white Mac keyboard looked kind of stupid on the thing, too.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

hahah -- this whole time i thought you were talking about your musical keyboard and i thought that was an awfully strange set up.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh snap. I got half my band sick.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Stop making out with them then!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Bbbut their sensitive lyrics, and wistful guitar lines! How could you not?!?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone go to any of the wire shows? I'm sure it was a lot more exciting that Delaware. I really wanted to see Pita.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Pita Murphy? Who/what is Pita?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

That's the "Bauhaus Sandwich" at the middle eastern joint down the street.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I almost went on Friday night to see Isolee (and William Basinski and other people I forget) but just ended up drinking instead. Too tired.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Plus, I wouldn't have known anyone there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I kind of wanted to go see Gang Gang Dance and Earth but I knew that neither Sarah nor my sister would really appreciate that.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Sigh, wait till next year. I suppose it's a good thing, last year I probably spent $200 on merchandise.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Morning. I was in a workshop thingy until about noon. Then I caught up on a bit of work & then I went to the post office to mail Leaf the cookies I baked for him yesterday.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Aww.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, cookies. What kind?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

I just discovered CITYFOOD. Nice little make-your-own-sandwich place. I had swiss and cheddar on pumpernickel, with lettuce, tomatoes, onions, cucumbers, and chipotle mayo. And it was like $3.50.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

vegan chocolate chip with oatmeal & walnuts. i usually throw coconut in there, but he doesn't like that as much.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Just a warning, for those of you who don't have images turned off: you may not want to visit the bathtub thread, if the image just posted is what I think it is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

it's not, thankfully.

i had to look, despite myself. glad it wasn't tubgirl.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Hey, anyone who hasn't been to the Garfield Park Conservatory: Go!

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I have only seen a split-second glimmer of Tubgirl, a couple years ago, and that was enough for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I went yesterday and even though it was a lil rainy we had a great time.
xpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

ooh, those cookies sound good. do you use soy butter? i don't know what Tubgirl is, but I have been to the GP conservatory and enjoyed it very much.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

You do not want to know what Tubgirl is. Hint: it's way worse than goatse.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, is CITYFOOD next to Taco Fresco?

Way, way back xpost: I want in on the Stop Making Sense group viewing. I used to love that movie, and assume I still do.

Hi everybody! We're back.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

i can't quite remember which is which, or if i've seen both, i just know they're to be avoided.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember if there was a Taco Fresco there or not. I'm still exploring this neighborhood. I think there may be more than one location. This was at State and Hubbard-ish.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Also, what's up, people: C@n@st@ is playing SIMON'S TAVERN this coming Sunday. SO YOU KNOW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Hi Jenny! We missed you!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Okay, that's not the placing I'm thinking of. There's a place on State and Adams, next to the Taco Fresco, that has a salad bar and soups and sandwiches. It's like a cafeteria combined with a convenience store. All take out. I bought gum there and might want to eat there some day.

xposts: Thanks, Kenan! I missed you, too! And I'm glad I reminded you to tell people about Simon's, John!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that place! That's Mac Kelly's. I used to go there at least once a week for the salad bar. Only $4.99/lb. Plus, I'd buy apples and baby carrots there for healthy afternoon snacking for the rest of the week. Great!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Cool. I'll eat lunch there one day this week, then. After spending four days with my mother, I need to recommit to healthy eating. (Random example: Mom asks me if I'm hungry, and I am, so she offers me summer sausage or brie on crackers. I tell her I'm trying to watch my diet, so she suggests caramel corn and cheese straws as a healthy alternative. She's not even fat, the bitch.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Note: I love my mother dearly. I just wish her skinny genes, rather than my father's fat ones, had been dominant in my own personal Punnet square.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

jenny -- me too me too. i missed you too. what's a punnet square?

people, my head is still killing me and i took three medicines. two pills of special headache medicine my doc gave me and one regular acetominophen pill. i have ingested plenty of water and am not dehydrated. i'm not suffering from withdrawal of any kind. is it possible that my head is about to explode? (please don't let these be my last words...)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Ha, does your mom live in a wine bar?

(I only say that because our apartment has turned into a wine bar, we have all of those things except the caramel corn)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Punnet square:

http://www.borg.com/~lubehawk/psquar3a.jpg

Genetics stuff. Often associated with pea plants or varying heights.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

pea plants of varying heights.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Someone please start an indie band called Yr Mom's Punnet Square.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to rewrite the shitty lyrics for one of the FF songs but I am having a VERY DIFFICULT TIME. I hate trying to write to a preordained structure, I feel boxed in, and everything I'm coming up with is overly cutesy and lame. Ugh. Of course I am also trying to proof my work's newsletter at the same time, which doesn't help.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Ok, I see. My knowledge of genetics is on par with my knowledge of calculus.

everything I'm coming up with is overly cutesy and lame.
This describes every single time I've ever tried to write a song.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

xpost: Punnet square

My mother would like to live in a wine bar! Maybe that would explain my families terrifying eating habits. The caramel corn was forced on us by my stepfather. ("Do you want some caramel corn?" No. "Okay, I'll get you some." But we don't want any. "That's okay, I'll get it for you!")

Amanda, I hope your egg feels better soon! That's the kind of headache that only a long nap in a dark room will cure for me, so I wish the chance for a similar cure for you.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Long nap! Dark room! That sounds heavenly.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm beyond fat now. Delaware and NC are both fattening, and lack vegetables.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of cutesy and lame, in moving into their new huge nouveau riche capitalist pig house, my parents unearthed a lot of my old crap from the attic of their old house. I might take a page from Sarah and John and post some from my old diaries. I had no idea that roller skating, something I have never been able to do with any grace, was such an important part of my upbringing.

The other, funny part was when I found an old book bag with a bunch of sketch pads and pastels and pencils and stuff, with pictures I drew using my "How to Draw Cats" book, and rock band fantasy stage scenes featuring me and Def Leppard... and a 20-year-old pack of Marlboros in the front pocket. I was a conflicted child.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

OMG Jenny you are so cute.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

OMG, did you draw Def Leppard as cats?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit! I wish I had! That is what separates me from artistic geniuses - that kind of vision.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Wow.
I like to name my RPG characters Gregor Mendel, but perhaps I'll switch to Yr Mom's Punnet Square for a while.
(Way way way x-post, Yeah, I was a little put-off by the Jonathan Safran Foheher thing too about Eugene Hutz from Gogol Bordello, but I liked Jess's review and the one song I heard, so perhaps he's just being a corporate whore for a while in order to get enough money to fund his musical projects.)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Who is Jonathan Safran Foheher? I googled to no avail.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Try Jonathan Saffron Foer.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

That's because he's the internet alter ego of Jonathan Safran Foer, boy wonder, novelist and metafiction darling. Right? Unless I'm missing something. I didn't read his Illuminated book but I heard it was overrated. What's not, really.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Actually: jonathan safran foer

I can't spell his name, either.

He wrote Everything Is Illuminated.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I don't really have a problem with Hutz being in the film. Apparently, they wanted to cast him as a musician in a club scene, and then once they talked to him realized he would be perfect for one of the leads. If you were him, why not? Seems like it would be fun.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Jonathan Safran Foer, "bright young male novelist". Wrote Everything Is Illuminated and something else. I haven't read him myself, but I've read some pretty scathing backlash after the initial acclaim, and Maddie couldn't get through EIS.

xposts

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

i loved everything is illuminated!

his other book was pretty okay, too

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

He also wrote Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, which was fucking RAVAGED by the NYTimes, Wall Street Journal, Atlantic Monthly, Chicago Tribune (which called it "extremely manipulative and incredibly cloying") and on and on. Apparently this was quite a bad book. I steer clear of the guy in general.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Sorry I was just trying to googleproof his name because I think there are some pretty rabid JSF fans around here. I thought EiI was okay, it had some interesting ideas, and I have a feeling the movie may be better than the book because I read an interview with Liev Schreiber (in Vogue maybe?) the director, and he didn't go for a direct book-to-screenplay thing. JSF's hot wife wrote a book that sounds almost exactly like EiI, only set in Poland instead of the pale of settlement.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm not quite sure why I had to define Nicole Kr@uss as "hot" there...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

So I would google her, surely?

(She's not unattractive.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Yes, she is attractive, but I think I said it because every review of her work seems to mention it, and that annoys me somehow.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I mean, she's alright, but not smokin hot or anything. She's not like Nigella Lawson, who may be the hottest woman I've ever seen.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

S1r1 Hustv3dt's a hot novelist.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Nigella L@wson is hott AND a cook!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Nigella Lawson is the kind of pretty that immediately makes you want to make babies with her. No courtship, no marriage, just straight-up breeding.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Nige11a Lawson's head looks slightly too large for her body.

Rache1 Ray, on the other hand...

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

ooh, she (s1r1) IS pretty.

i agree about Nigella. she's outta this world hot.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm probably going to get shit for saying that.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

rachael ray is cute. nigella is HOTTT.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Shit! I take it back. I was thinking of someone else. I stand by my Rache1 Ray statement, but it's been too long since I had Food Network and I mixed up who Nigella Lawson was. 10000 pardons.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

To make up for my mistake, I give you:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/04/nigella200.jpg

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

EiI was fine and entertaining but not as brilliant as it was made out to be. So yeah, overrated.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.celebopedia.com/nigella-lawson/images/nigella-lawson.jpg

Yeah, something about her appeals to my lizard brain... pleasure and food and aggressive, almost shameful heterosexuality.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

me too! and i'm not even a man. i remember the first time i saw a photo of her and i stared at it for a really long time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Rachel Ray leaves crappy tips and says "EVOE." That makes everybody ugly.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking of Giada De Laurentiis...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/swedishsteel/Giada.jpg

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

me too! and i'm not even a man.

Except with you, it's not heterosexuality. But I guess even girls notice great boobs. Actually, I know they do.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

xpost - ew -- she's ok in a "hot college girl" sort of way. she's no nigella. NL is a WOMAN.

Of course girls notice great (real) boobs. I don't like fake ones.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

we don't need to talk about boobs all day, by the way.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't think she's particularly hot, I think she's got a big head. That picture doesn't do it justice like the TV does.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

xpost I don't know anyone who does. In fact, that's how I've picked my friends. "You like fake tits?" "Well, sure, why not?" "I don't this is going to work out, man."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

What does EVOE mean?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Extra
Virgin
Olive
Oil

I don't know where the E came from

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Or, I could be wrong and Rache1 might have a new catch phrase. It's been like a year.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Also, her 30 minute meals? Not 30 minutes. More like 60 unless you have mice doing all of your chopping and prep work.

Oh I see, as if there's a need to say "extra virgin"? who cares. it's olive oil. that is annoying.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

You gotta distinguish from your lesser-quality olive oils! We don't need any Olive Pomace Oil up in this shit.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

You're right. It's annoying. Rache1 Ray's attractiveness lies soley in her awkwardity.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

My Internet has been spotty for the last hour, but I was going to say something upthread about Foer in that I thought Everything is Illuminated was just okay, but I recognize his talent and think he has the capacity to write something really great, if only he'd rein it in a bit. Rein in what, I'm not sure, though. His stylistic quirks, as showcased in a New Yorker story published several months before Illuminated was released, were what initially endeared me to him. And I don't really want to tell someone to be less ambitious, but I think the multiple narratives in Illuminated were ultimately what sunk it for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I meant EEOO.

Right, 30 minute meals as long as somebody else does your dishes. And you really do come home from the store and immediately wash and chop everything, which takes the better part of a weekend. Although I have made and enjoyed some of her recipes, and even went through a phase of hating her less than normal, I think she's a hack.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

we don't need to talk about boobs all day, by the way.

Haha, way to head us off at the pass, Amanda.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and also that I really want to read the new Zadie Smith.

And this...

S1r1 Hustv3dt's a hot novelist.

...is strange, because this name just came to me while walking back from lunch, only I had no idea who it was.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I am slowly catching up. I realized I have no idea what Nicole Krauss, Siri Hustvedt, Nigella Lawson, or Rachel Ray look like, so I just did a Google search. Hustvedt doesn't really do much for me, but the rest are reasonably attractive in a generic way. For some reason, I think I thought that Lawson was a much older, blonde, frumpy sort of woman. Apparently not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh oh, and I once dated someone with the last name EV0E. She'll probably find this thread now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Rachel Ray is cute. But she's certainly no Mari0 Batta1i when it comes to the cookerizing.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

This has made me kind of miss having cable and FoodTV. But not that much.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I'd take Rachel, even though she could use bigger cans. I like her food better.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

I used to like N1gella, and then I read something suzy said about her, and I don't anymore. (Basically that she was already sleeping with Charles Saatchi while her reporter husband (whose column's I liked a lot) was dying painfully of throat cancer. And I tend to believe suzy becuase she does actually know these things.)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

oh, that's sad. i thought to myself that i would like her until i heard something horrible that she said or did. unless she had some sort of understanding with her hubs, that's depressing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

She's a woman! She has needs!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

I know, but geez. i just read that thing in the nyt about j0an did1on and her husband too, and it was really really sad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I know. I was kidding. That's really kind of icky.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, we need some hot male TV chefs for balance.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

What, you mean Emeril doesn't do it for you?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

yeah -- come to think of it, we spent too much time talking about hot ladies and their underwear. it's time for us to talk about hot men. thank you jocelyn.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

If she looks too generic in the photo, Jaymc, just picture her in a hunting cap.

I read that Foer story in the N-Yorker too -- the one with all the symbols. Unabashedly precocious, but good and complicated too.

Jocyelyn, you could start with Jamie Oliver.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm not into dudes, but if I were I'd be all about Anth0ny B0urdain. The man is a badass.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

he's pretty good-lookin', i guess.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

he's sexy, but in a boyish way. boyish is fine, but it doesn't always do it for me.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

And he's nice and liberal with the snark. I love him.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

um, no on bourdain. for me. physically, anyway.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

amanda, what was that nytimes article you spoke of?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

i like men with baby animal face.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

what about men with an animal chin?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

it's the cover story in the magazine. it's devastating.

men with animal chin -- not really. i don't care for a recessed chin.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

5th hit for "baby animal face" is Chicago XI!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Predictably, I like Jamie Oliver.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

There's been some pretty studly dudes on the Iron Ch3f in the past, too.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I used to like J.O. until my friend pointed out how overly juicy his mouth is and that he seems to spit when he's talking, which makes us think he's a sloppy kisser. Turn off.
Oh yeah, Iron Chef!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

5th hit for "baby animal face" is Chicago XI!
uh oh.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

The images I just found for this Bourdain fellow seem somewhat appetizing (hey-oooooo) -- he has maybe a young Elliott Gould thing going on?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/wine/graphics/2001/06/30/anthony.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

he has an unusually long upper lip. he looks a little like my grandpa.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Emer1l apparently has a very icky sense of personal hygiene when not on camera.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

He also likes to eat crazy super-traditional foods from different cultures. And drink a lot. He's written a couple of really great books too.

/fanboy

xpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

he looks like a young, gay grandpa. With kind of a vincent price meets ray romano thing going on.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahaha

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

therefore, not sexy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

It's the heroin.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Gay Al Pacino

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Bourdain is an ex-everything addict, a general smart-ass, and a good man with a knife, so obviously I think he's wonderful. I'm predictable like that, I have a thing for super-competence and line cooks are about as cocky as it gets. But if KITCH CONFIDENTIAL holds true he's got a long-term lady (married? dunno) who's seen the shit and kept him on anyway. She probably deserves a medal.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, he's been married for a long time. Lucky girl.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

I still have to read Kitchen Confidential. I was always worried that it would put me off eating out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

You guys all seem to know so much more about these celebrity chefs than I do. I only really recognize the names. Although Oliver I know a bit more about since I just fact-checked something about him a couple weeks ago. (And Kels, wasn't Ad@m M@rsh@ll obsessed with him at one point?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Laurel OTM

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of fascinated by old-school celeb chefs right now, like James Beard and Julia Child (since those are the cookbooks Maddie's been working out of). Anyone know if those two hung out?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, read it anyway. If you can't stomach eating out after reading it (and it's not THAT gross, it's mostly about the unpleasant personalities/habits of kitchen employees, but they don't all directly affect your food), you probably ARE better off eating at home where you can keep an eye on things.

Anyone who's ever worked in a restaurant knows this stuff anyway -- for instance, EVERY restaurant in New York has roaches. Period. In Chicago, and in Miami, and in Hilton Head, and basically everywhere. Ditto rats. End of story. There may be varying levels of defense (traps, exterminators) and/or safeguards on the food but SOMEWHERE in the kitchen or storerooms there are roaches and rats.

Still hungry? ;)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

I just love that there is a cookbook called "Beard on Food".

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't know anything about any celebrity chefs except for how NL is hot.

Lauren OTM about working in a restaurant! Attitudes and roaches galore.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Jaques Pepin is also The Man. In fact, he may be more The Man than anyone else mentioned thus far.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Still hungry? ;)

Sadly...yes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

There's a gap to be filled on television by a wine hottie. Jancis Robinson is a great writer but isn't who I'm thinking of.

Oh, Alpana S.! She could fill that spot!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

I nominate Maddie!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

i don't remember ever seeing rats or roaches in the restaurant that i worked in, but there was still disgustingness. and of course there's always attitudes galore--i've never worked in another environment like a restaurant.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I think the larger part of N1gell@'s appeal lies in her essential fertility, so Kenan wins it in one. Which is kind of what I like about her, the unabashed flashing "TILL SOIL, PLANT SEED HERE" of it all.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

But she's certainly no Mari0 Batta1i when it comes to the cookerizing.

Battali! All I know about him is that he made fantastic pasta sauces that for whatever reason Trader Joe's no longer carries. Why, TJ, why?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Trader Joe's got rid of their vaccuum-packed marinated chicken breasts as well, which were so so so good and so so so easy for a bachelor like me to make.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Haha, Laurel and Amanda both OTM.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

oops -- time to go home now. see y'all tomorrow.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm working late tonight, again.

Btw, I got my free avant-classical sampler in the mail, it's awesome so far. Track 1 is f'n raw and track 2 is BEGGING to be sample in some huge hip-hop track.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm at Worker Justice Co., Inc. Ltd. LLP. So I guess I'm working late, too. And I'm hungry like the wolf and have a vague craving for something prepared by a talented chef with his or her own TV show.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm working from home tonight; just finished that Didion essay before getting started.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Kitchen Confidential the book: a must read.
Kitchen Confidential the show: not so much.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I loved the show, never read the book.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

The show made me want to go to Vietnam.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, both me and my housemate said: they're standing around talking in the kitchen? What is it, Tuesday lunch?

Fox TV inaccurate adaptation of edgy, true-to-life book shocker

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Jeff, the show you liked was A Cook's Tour, not Kitchen Confidential. Kitchen Confidential is new.

they're standing around talking in the kitchen? What is it, Tuesday lunch?

That offends my server sensibilities to no end. I mean, it's not like there isn't enough drama in every restaurant in the universe from which to make a TV show. But then again, a true to life restaurant drama would consist of:

1. Each server bitching about how he or she is the only one who ever does any work around here.
2. Every food prep employee bitching about how the front of the house staff sucks and how the food prep group could do much better if only the manager would let them.
3. Hilarious language-barrier misunderstandings between the denizens of the dish pit and everybody else.
4. Sex and/or sucking the nitrous out of the Redi-Whip cans in the walk-in.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

I like the way you paired "sex and/or sucking." The last restaurant I worked in, people would retreat to the walk-in to have really unsafe sex on top of bags of flour. Flour gets wet, you know. That's gross. And these girls got wet easier than if you'd dumped a bucket of water on them. They must've opened those sacks of flour and found fully-formed, salted, and kneaded pizza dough. I digress.

Restaurant kitchens are sex-filled, drug-filled, socially brutal and sometimes violent places. That's why Kitchen Condfidential was such a hit book -- not because people liked or understood what Bourdain said instinctively, but because anyone who has ever worked in a kitchen told everyone they know -- "He's right. It really is this ugly." Dude... it really is.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

Saw part 1 of that Scorcese Dylan doc last night -- so much great midcentury footage of other rock/country/blues/rockabilly bands, so much footage of Greenwich Village in the early 60s, so inspiring and good.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Yay!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Ah, memories of working in restaurants. I think that waiting tables was my initiation into the way the world really works. My bildungsroman. It was a decent way to come of age. (NOT in the walk-in, mind you.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

That sounds awesome.

I don't even recognize most of those chef names above.

I don't want to remember the walk-in. Yes, I made out in there. Yes, there were slabs of meat stacked in piles in there. Ick ick ick.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I have never been in a walk-in freezer. I think it would frighten me. Oh yeah, I got that Bang on a Can sampler CD in the mail on Friday and it is now sitting underneath a pile of bills.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

I've never worked in the service industry

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm really enjoying that sampler cd. Classical musicians are f'n hardcore these days.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I never made out in the walk in. I did ruin many a can of Redy-Whip, however. And I like the way the walk-in smelled in the pizza place where I used to work, sort of like pizza but colder.

I thought you R. Kelly fans might like to know that he and Andrea are going to try and work it out.

Andrea Kelly had been granted an order of protection earlier this month after she alleged that her estranged husband slapped her, according to court records.

The couple are working toward reconciliation, and no other court filings were planned, said R. Kelly's lawyer, Nathan Swerdlove.

"They had a squabble--and how many marriages don't have that sort of thing?" Swerdlove said Monday.

The squabble? Sure! The slapping? Not so much.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I like that name, Swerdlove.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

SWERDLOVE

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

SSSSWWWWWEEEEEERRRRRRDDDDDLLLLOOOOOVVVVVEEEEE

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, what is it about that name?

― SWERDLOVE (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Man. I am obsessed now.

― SWERDLOVE (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

It's swerve + nerd + love

AMBROSIA to my ears!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

SWERDLOVE
SWERDLOVE
LET'S GET TOGETHER
AND FEEL ALRIGHT

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

BOB LOBLAW!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like the name of a hott new R&B sensation.

"Trapped in Matrimony, Part XVI" - R. Kelly feat. Swerdlove

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW
IS LOVE
SWERDLOVE

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

SWERDLOVE

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

's weird, love.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Do Chicago people want to come over this weekend, watch Stop Making Sense, and help us drink the Chilean liquor that Ben brought us? If yes, would Friday or Saturday be better?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

i'm in detroit this weekend, otherwise i sure would.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

oh man, that sounds like fun, but saturday we're going to an orchard in indiana for 1) apple picking 2) exploring a corn maze and sunday i have plans with another friend that were supposed to be for saturday.

you guys have fun though, take photos if anything hilarious happens.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm on vacation Thursday - Tuesday, but I think it will be spent going NOWHERE, just not cleaning the apartment and not working.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I might be down with stop making sense. Friday makes more sense, since I want to chill out in my favorite bar with Canasta on Sunday.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

's weird, love

"...so I told her she should take a box of Russell Stover chocolates, and just transpose the letters so it reads Russell 'tsover ... Russell 'tsover ... Russell, it's over."

I like that Swerdlove's first name is Nathan, too. It seems fitting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Trying to remember...Is that from Wet Hot American Summer?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

More like Wet Hot R0bert Buscemi.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

That's kind of redundant.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

(Oh, hey! Credit to Robert B. that the joke stayed in my head, but I'd transposed it into some movie I'd seen in the past 12 months. I was thinking WHAS, Sideways, or Me and You. Salut, Mr. B.!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Which Corn Maze are you going to Amanda?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember -- somewhere in Hobart? Do you know of a reaaaally good one?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

There's a famous one in Greenfield but it's over on the east side on Indianapolis, so a bit of a drive. I have not been there. But you have given me an idea for a weekend activity at some point.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

There's one in LODI, WISCONSIN (about 15 min. outside of Madison).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Dan and I are both mildly obsessed with the idea of mazes -- we wanted to do a tour of UK hedge mazes for our honeymoon, but it would have cost TOO MUCH to get there at the time we were able to travel, so we went to Montana instead. Someday, though, we're going to tour various mazes. The corn is a start, right?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

There's one in Minnesota next to Canterbury Downs and the Canterbury Card Room.

I drew mazes all the time as a kid.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Here's the '05 Treinin Farm maze (uh, spoilers?):

http://shopping.bancinternal.com/accounts/treinen//MazeWEBSITE_500w.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

that looks so great!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

wow, that's SO COOL! who doesn't love a good maze, really?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

i'd be wary of those that don't!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

no kidding.

i'm eating a "whole grain fig bar" right now, a 21st century newton, and it's pretty good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Meh. That's an occurrence easily explained by nature.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Man, you could get lost for hours in that pentagram in the upper-right-hand corner.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Hey dudes, do you ever miss a spot when shaving and then go to work? And then you have to live with what could have been taken care of with one swipe of the razor?

Yeah, I hate that shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I hate that. I have a beard now though, so it's less of an issue. Plus my new razor rocks, and I'm obsessively shaving these days.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Barak Obama has a podcast.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Cool, Jeff. A winter beard! Does the little lady approve?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

More importantly, does Jenny?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Beard pics, pls.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Question: if I grow a beard again, will I be taken more or less seriously at a job interview? It certainly makes me look older.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm planning on a winter beard as well, but it feels too soon.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

It's not ready for primetime yet. And itchy as hell.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

That depends on whether or not it's a scraggly hipster beard, Kenan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I think less seriously, but only because it makes men look more like Men of Leisure and that's not really the image you wnat to project at a job interview. I wish Dan would grow a beard again. His facial hair is nice and dense. He says it irritates his skin though. :(

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

No no. I grow a good beard. If I keep it closely cropped and neat... what do you think? Are there still companies who won't hire a guy with a beard?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I think computer programmers are required to have a beard by their start date.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.celebs001.com/Katie-Holmes/7.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

All I can grow is a neck beard.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I don't know -- I guess maybe they would? I guess more older men have beards. I look around here and no one has one. Not even the older guys. But this is business -- I bet at a university you would see a lot more beards. I like beards, but not scraggly hipster beards. Nice groomed ones.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Does she like beards?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

She IS a beard.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I think that look would work if you were smoking a pipe and wearing a blazer with shoulder pads too. But seriously, I think you should go for it. It's so freezing cold here in the winter I half-wish I could grow a beard.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Maybe just a moustache. Then they'll think I'm gay and I can fill some quota.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Am I missing something? What does that mean?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

You can fill my quota any day.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Isn't mustache = gay a stereotype from like 1977?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

What does it mean for KH to "be" a beard? Is this slang that I should know?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, you would look really cute with a beard.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I mean, not if you had a facial hair growth PROBLEM, but a decorative little winter beard that you took off when you came indoors.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, if Tom Cruise is gay and in the closet, then KH is his beard (i.e. his prop to cultivate a heterosexual public image).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

That Seinfeld was on yesterday.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Oooooh. I get it. Sorry -- I'm really not hip to the vernacular (cough cough). Thanks for the clarification.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Which Seinfeld?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

The "not that there's anything etc." one?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Um, yeah, I think... The one where Elaine is a gay dude's beard and then ends up liking him. It's really the side plot.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Wait, everything in Seinfeld is pretty much side plot.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Ha. Too true.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's a different one. I don't remember that one.

It's Indian buffet time!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

OMG. There's an Indian buffet not far from my office. I really want to go.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

i just ate a tuna wrap i made this morning.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

tuna = tuna salad

tuna salad = tuna, artichoke hearts, vegan mayonaise, celery, carrots, lemon juice, garlic, cayenne pepper, & a pinch of salt.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I just bought two gyros (for the price of one!) and I could eat them if the boss lady would fucking get her shit together and go to the post office already. She's been in and out ten times.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone want to meet me someday at the Indian buffet? It's at 59 W. Grand. I have a gift certificate for two people.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I had Indian buffet Saturday night at this new place and it was so tasty. I love paneer cheese, and they have homemade naan and chai.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I'd do it for dinner, but I'm afraid I couldn't get down there in time for lunch.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

chai sounds so fucking delicious right now!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Vegan mayonnaise.

This sounds like a delicious sauce, but I don't know why they would bother calling it mayonnaise. Makes it sound worse than it probably is.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it does sound good. I wouldn't even take a bite of a sandwich with mayonnaise on it, but that recipe sounds acceptable. Let's call it "dressing."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

I also have coupons for Rockit Bar & Grill at 22 W. Hubbard -- might be good for after-work drinks. This was all part of the goodie bag they gave us last week when we moved into this office.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

what i like about vegan mayonnaise:

it doesn't taste eggy.
it's healthier than mayonnaise.
it's pretty mild & doesn't have this overbearing thick creamy egg thing going on.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

I bought groceries last night, so I had a plethera of choices when making my lunch today.

Sooo, can I buy tickets from the Metro directly instead of going through ticketmaster? I'm sure we've had this discussion before. Anyway, the Veruca Salt ticket is $15.50, but with the charges it comes to @ $30. Grrr!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Sooo, can I buy tickets from the Metro directly instead of going through ticketmaster?

Yeah, you just buy it at the store next door.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

For the record, I am dead against Sarah having a beard.

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/sarah_beard.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

No one was supposed to ever see that photo!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I should write more; that is, I should put more effort into writing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Though there are lots of things into which I could stand to put more effort.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

that's hilarious, kenan!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I thought the store next to the Metro closed down?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

xpost Thanks, but... eh. Not my best work.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm much more fond of this one:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/haulin.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa that's a good one.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I once saw two gals, a tall beanpole blonde and a short Italian with black hair, at a Halloween party dressed as Hall & Oates.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Man. My housemate gets asked out by a model and says no. The girl's a minor Chicago celebrity it seems. By that I mean she's been in an R. Kelly video. www.kati3c.com (You know what to do with the 3. It's a little nsfw if you dig around. I just want to go on record as being bummed on behalf of the men of Chicago.)

― dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I thought the store next to the Metro closed down?

The Hi-Fi Records closed down, but I think it's been replaced with The Metro Store.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I just found the weirdest lunch place. I think it's called Garden Village? Anyway, there's a salad bar, a hot a la carte bar, a NY-style sandwich deli, and then a Japanese/sushi corner, complete with bowls of udon noodles.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

That sounds awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Indian buffet was off the hook btw. Except for the goat. Fatty, boney goat. But the fish pakora and lamb curry and aloo jera were mmmmmmm.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm reading about serial killers.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/index.html

I never knew before what John Wayne Gacy actually did. It's the worst thing I've ever heard of. Then again, I haven't read the Dahmer section yet.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Was it tasty?

When is the Metro store open? If you don't know I'll have to... I'll have to... look it up online myself! Don't think I won't do it!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

The Metro Store hours are Tuesday through Saturday, noon to 8pm, Sunday noon to 6pm, and closed on Mondays. The store will be open during all shows in Metro.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

RADICAL.

I just found out today that my therapist is a Spoon fan, and went to Lollapaloza. That surprised me.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Was it tasty?

I hope you weren't posting in response to Kenan, Sarah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, John.

And thanks, Jordan, for making me laugh.

My stupid back hurts. My mom freaked me out on the phone last night by reminding me that my pediatrition (I was 12) said my bones were practically transparent already. I know I have horrible posture and my neck and back hurt me all the time. Someone fix it!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

ha! i was thinking the exact same thing!

xpost jordan/sarah

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

i just bought "a million little pieces" by james frey b/c i enjoy reading about addicts.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

me TOO!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

never read that book though. reading about the international drug trade was more my thing for a while, mostly in college, but it got too depressing and macro. i tend to prefer the micro.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

i just read a blurb of that book that said it contains a chapter about dentistry without anaesthesia, which means that i am not able to read it. i'm not even able to discuss dentistry in detail.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

i'm almost to that chapter.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, I heartily recommend a chiropractor! Mine has done a world of good in just 4 sessions. Speaking of dentistry fears, when the chiropractor was showing me my x-rays, she asked if I had a fear of them, because she's had people throw up at the sight of their own bones. That was a reaction I had never heard of, but then again, I'm totally fine with blood, x-rays, etc. I really like x-rays, actually.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

i only realized recently how homeopathic chiropracty (sp?) is. I always thought of it as violent.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Should I go to a chiropractor? My shoulders are really fucked up. There's so much CONTROVERSY about chiropractors, though. My mom thinks I should see a physical therapist instead.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I love the beard. I look forward to beard time every year, and appreciate that Jeff is willing to go through the itch.

Jeff used to be a neck beard man - and man what a neck beard he could grow.

I went to a chiropractor once to fix some horrifying pack pain of no discernable cause. It worked! But my insurance wouldn't pay for it after five sessions. They were perfectly willing to pay for surgery and addictive prescription pills, however.

Fuckers.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

See a massuess instead.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

My view on chiropractors in general:

1. They are great for musculoskeletal issues and chronic pain, but they are not panaceas. If you have stomache aches, I don't think that a chiropractor is the way to go.
2. Chiropractors will try REALLY REALLY hard to convince you that they will fix everything from acne to bunions. Just be knowledgable and ready to say no to treatments that you think are superfluous.
3. Not all chiropractors will do this, so it's worthwhile to shop around until you find one you really like, just like with a regular doctor.
4. Make sure your insurance will pay for it.
5. INSIST that your chiropractor give you a definitive number of treatments. If he or she tells you that he can't set a number of treatments and you'll just have to see what develops, find another doctor.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Good to know.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

I agree with Jenny on all points, esp. # 2. If they try to tell you that they can cure the entire body with spinal manipulation, find someone else who will ask you what your goals are during the initial consultation. Also, if they try to take x-rays right away without a physical/range of movement exam first, say no.
My insurance won't cover it though, because they are part of a rather corrupt HMO (as it is emerging in the news) So I have really had to budget my spending this month.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

I've got an unabridged audiobook of A Million Little Pieces that I found remaindered for a few bucks. If you want it for a drive to MN sometime, K., let me know -- I figure that's when I'll end up listening to it. Requiem for a Dream kind of tested the boundaries of my empathy for literature about addiction.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i was just about to say, OTM on #2 (xp, re: chiros). i've had an amazing chiro who really did wonders for my knees/hips (it was all about body alignment stuff), but others who were just a waste of time. best to shop around, or better yet, get personal recommendations, which is how i'd found my wonderful chiro guy (he was in milwaukee).

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

i need to start doing yoga again.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

I need to start doing yoga, period. I don't know where to start, though. I can't afford a class now, and I hear you can really hurt yourself if you just buy a book and start stretching.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

You can REALLY hurt yourself. Ask my knees.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Sarah went to one of the yoga places in our neighborhood (I think the one on Division near Damen), and I'm pretty sure it was cheap. You could probably even take a trial class for free.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Yoga for cheap? That's a new development.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

there are lots of yoga for cheap places. like ones sponsored through the city, for example.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

eric: yes. that sounds lovely. let me know when you are free to go.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

There's a drop in class at DePaul for $7 a shot that I would attend with you occasionally, Kenan. The instructor is awesome and I love her and it's a really gentle class. Once you get some basic forms down, you can do it on your own more safely.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

That's true...I guess I'm just thinking back to the time when I did it, but that was in NC and there were these little studios trying to survive with 10-12 students per class. I bought a monthly pass and it was like $90 or something.

But, I have to tell you -- the aforementioned "beard" -- KH -- was in my class once. I can't remember if I already blabbed about that or not.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Ohhhh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Also, at the time I was making a whopping 15K a year, so $90/mo. was a WHOLE lot of money. Maybe I'm inflating the costs of things in my head relative to my lack of funds at the time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

$90/mo. is not pocket change.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Not unless you have exceptionally large and durable pockets.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

And suspenders.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

This guy was yelling at me on the phone this morning (because I was playing middle man between him and my boss) and he actually said, "You tell B0b that my pockets are deep, very very deep, and I have plenty of money to play ball with! You tell him that!"

I really wished I could say whatever I wanted to him - maybe something along the lines of "Congrats!" or "I'm impressed!"

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

You should have called him Moneyballz.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

you could have told him that you've never been to a ball game...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Or "I don't appreciate the insinuation that I would want to play with your balls, sir."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

My mom took me to a chiropractor back in the day. I was always scared of my visits because I hated the anticipation when he said he would snap my neck, but I should relax.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm done reading serial killer stuff for the day. I read the one about Gacy, which was appalling, and the one about Ted Bundy, who despite killing a lot of women seems like the most normal of the bunch, especially when you throw Jeffrey Dahmer into the mix. Reading about him is not fun even in that looking-at-a-gruesome-car-crash kinda way. It's just totally off the map. The things this guy did to people... it just makes you feel terrible, reading this stuff. It's not just that it's stomach-churning, though surely it is -- it's actually depressing. It made me not want to see or speak to anyone for about an hour.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe you read that shit for that long.

my mom thinks she was approached by ted bundy back in the day. or one of his copycats.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

The house where Dahmer grew up was across the street from my gradeschool playmate's house. We had lots of scaaaaaaary slumber parties there but we never knew about the neighbors across the street. I don't think they lived there anymore anyway. The aura was still there!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Who was the dude who did the comic book about being friends with Dahmer in high school?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

has anyone beside john read that sarah vowell essay about the vortex of history at michigan & wacker? i think it's crazy how some spaces just draw in people & events.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

why i've never heard of such a book!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Never mind, found it:

http://www.dcbservice.com/images/large/APR052792.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

i somehow ended up with a bunch of pins that have pictures of serial killers on them. over the summer, my brother found them in my car & put them on the ceiling of my car (with my other buttons) & honestly, they make me uncomfortable.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that oogs me out.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

the buttons and especially the comic. i've been having major death fears after reading that joan didi0n essay.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

i meant to read that yesterday & got freaked out that i'd either
1. get depressed
2. start obsessing over death yet again

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

yeah, if that's the case, don't read it. i freaked out last night and then had dreams where i could talk to dead people and then, in the morning, when dan woke up he said that he had a dream that he died and i freaked out more.

sorry. that's a little TMI.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

i'm curious to read derf's dahmer comic & the trashed one.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

The house where Dahmer grew up was across the street from my gradeschool playmate's house.

Ah, the house he lived in while he was finding roadkill and flaying it. The house he lived in when he killed his first man, right out of high school, and buried him in the woods. *shudder*

The weird thing is, nobody knows why, less so than with other serial killers. He was a normal happy kid with great parents who just slowly went crazy. His father wrote a book about him, and it's all about how frustrating it is not to be able to stop someone from going crazy. His dad now thinks he was born without a soul. See, I told you this was depressing.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

What is this Joan Didion essay that everyone is talking about? Was it linked somewhere?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Wow.

Yeah, that house. Those woods were the same woods we played hide and seek in and I sat on a slimy, gross slug and screamed and scared all of my friends.

It's in the NYT Sunday magazine, the lead story.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

well, the comic guy maintains that dahmer was a bit of a freak. he'd show up drunk by 7:30. i thought i read somewhere that his home life wasn't great.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

We have tons of serial killer books. Jenny's a fan.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

His home life only got bad after he started being a complete nightmare problem child, apparently. And yeah, drank like you wouldn't believe, even when he was, like, 15.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

One of the most horrible things I have ever read was the wikipedia profile of the "Sacramento Vampire" that I stumbled across a few months ago while searching for something entirely different. Also, the Rostov Ripper profile on that site Kenan linked to is pretty terrifying, esp. since I thought it was from the 1940s or 50s and then I realized the crimes were actually in the 1980s. I found it especially weird that most of the adult victims (of the ~50) were never even reported missing because they were homeless or handicapped.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

does a kid just magically become a problem without some kind of trigger?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, well, homeless. Who doesn't kill the homeless?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

does a kid just magically become a problem without some kind of trigger?

They have no idea. And even if his parents had been abusive (and there's no evidence that they were, as far as I understand it) that would explain some but not all of his behavior. Necrophilia and cannibalism and keeping skulls as trophies and liquifying people in your bathtub -- that doesn't happen because mommy yelled at you. And remember, he was obsessed with dead animals from a young age. Didn't hurt animals, or torture or kill them, was only interested in dead things. No one has any idea what was wrong with him.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

i find this stuff fascinating.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I just read that Didion article. Yeep.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Constant bedwetting is mentioned at times too. Don't know the validity of this argument though.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Diagnosis: Evil

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

After reading the Didion article I looked up Quintana Dunne and found out that she died this year, and I seem remembered Dominick Dunne's daughter was murdered which prompted him to become a famous criminal hunter. (It turns out she was the famous "Girl who died from Poltergeist) What a sad story.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

the rate at which these chicago threads reach 1000 posts is staggering.

― carly (carly), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

aaaaand... NOW!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

1001

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Everything in this news item amazes me

off topic, that is if there ever was one.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

In other Hold Steady news, the band has been written into the script of a future episode of the hit television show "Lost", which will air sometime in October.

That's some Gilligan's Island shit right there.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Is Littleton High School what used to be known as Columbine? Or is there another high school in the same town?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Beats me.

Hiya.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Hi Jeff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Howdy, doodies.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if Capote is out yet?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Jeff & John & Amanda.

Sooo... who wants to come to our apartment this weekend? You can watch Stop Making Sense (or not and say you did or not and say you didn't).

I know Kelsey is out of town then and Amanda seems pretty busy...? BUT there are many more of you. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

I am not very interested in murderers these days, because I'm all touchy touchy about death and the slightest mention of it makes me worry about watching my loved ones suffer and slowly die. I know, I'm a barrel of warmth and sunshine...

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm all up in the death paranoia this week, but because I'm so superstitious, I feel like it's a signal to be careful. Would you guys think I'm flaky if I told you that I believe (quite strongly) in synchronicity?

(let the mocking commence)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm going back to MI tomorrow evening for a friend's wedding, and won't be back until Sunday.

omgwtfholdsteady? That's crazy.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

i read about the dental work last night, amanda.

also....what did i just do to make ILX bold & hugely fonted?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

fixed it. nevermind.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

also, amanda, i can't mock you b/c i kinda believe it too.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

that's comforting, kelsey. it bugs me that people almost always preface "coincidence" with the word "just" -- as if it's something to be belittled. i think coincidence is marvelous.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, I'll have to let Jenny make the call. Friday would be my prefered day. Of course I could go by myself! I never think of that.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

i remember reading the celestine prophecy (sp) back in the day (late middle school, early high school?) & thinking, "yeah. this is it. of course. i didn't know how to say it, but yes." and even though i look at that book now as cheesey & kinda awful, it put into words something i felt to be true.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I never read that book, but my friend is a therapist and studied a lot of Jung (I haven't at all) and she and I talked about it a lot. I just found out that Jung also believed in clairvoyance. He also went a little bit nuts, I think.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Oooh. I didn't know that about Jung. That's really fascinating.

I just wrote on my blog about how reading this book reminds me of that lost dream of wanting to be a writer. Now I'm getting fixated on the lost dream I have of being a psychologist.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Did you did this, Kelsey?

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

ahhh!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

i had somehow increased the font size via keyboard code things. unbeknownst to me, of course.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Would you guys think I'm flaky if I told you that I believe (quite strongly) in synchronicity?

No.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

DID YOU DID THIS!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

why would the bank automatically issue me a credit card?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Haha! Shit, I think all this work has really been messing up my internet posting lately.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

ahhhhhhhh. someone walked behind my desk and said "you must really like kelsey, because that's HUGE."

thanks jordan.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

i just logged on to see if some of the disputed charges were updated & suddenly, I have two checking accounts, a savings account & a credit card with a $12,000 limit.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

hahaha!! i like how large fonts done by someone else = really liking me!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

weird. (xpost)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Hello Amanda's co-worker, she loves Kelsey and I love YOU!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

get this -- they redesigned our site and to commemorate it, everyone received a large frosted sugar cookie on his/her desk with the "apartments dot com redesign 2005" logo on it. it's the size of two or three normal cookies and it looks like a huuuge button.

hahahahahhahahahahhahha jordan.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

That sounds yummy.

I'm proofing a contract my mom has on a house in Memphis. I'm remembering more about real estate than I thought I would.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Okay, we're a go for friday night.

We also going to see some friends' bands tonight at the bottom lounge, if anyone wanted to drop in and have a drink.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I'd join you on Friday, but my friends J. and S. are having a party that night, and they just got engaged, so I want to go and celebrate with them.

And I have band practice tonight. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

What bands are playing, Jeff?

JOHN, when is the record release show?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Yay, in addition to my paycheck I just got a $400 check for retroactive raise pay. I have to spend about $170 of that to get train tickets home for xmas, and there are probably a couple of bills I should pay, but I want to do or buy something FUN too...what do you recommend?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I made a mistake. A boss told me to overnight something, but he handed it to me as I was walking out the door. I knew DHL wouldn't come to the office that late anyway. PLUS, the airbill had been sent by another company so we could send it back, so somehow I rationalized it didn't REALLY have to be overnighted and I could "overnight" it the next morning (today). I was wrong. I hate it when I'm wrong. My boss said that's all fine, except I should have told him as much and not just assumed.

But then in faxing those documents I - because I'm such a busybody - discovered his annual country club fees are the same as my salary in a year! Jesus!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Well, apparently a country club membership is out of the question...

How much do you plan to keep for said fun thing after bills?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I think you should buy a spiffy item of clothing or a new pair of shoes. Something over $50 that you would never buy if you didn't get the bonus.

Country clubs -- are they just a place for people who have too much money and need somewhere to deposit it in return for social cache?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Clothes - such a GIRL answer! Probably prudent though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

The bands are Missile, The Cells, The New Randys, and the Wiitala Brothers. We know some of the folks in Missile and the New Randys through our friends Karen and Andrew. I have only ever heard Missile, though.

Yes, I would love to hang out on Friday, if that's okay! We can bring beer and snacks.

Yes, I have a bit of a serial killer obsession. Really more of a deviant /forensic psychology obession. I'm more interested in the why than the what and the how. Details tend to freak me out, but I do love to read about the childhoods of these people. What makes someone into a person who can do such horrible things??? Are some people just hardwired like that? Or hardwired with that tendency that gets brought out by some life event? It's fascinating to me.

xpost: Nick, buy lots of soap.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Actually I should probably get a haircut, though that's not much fun. I was thinking maybe I should go to the same woman you all go to, so we can all have the same haircutter.

SOAP is another girly answer. Come on, let's hear from the DUDES.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF PORN.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Get a present for your girlfriend, dude! Radical!

― Badass Kittens Kicking the Hell out of Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

or a case of Brut.

http://www.perfumeemporium.com/BigPics_M/Brut_m.jpg

xpost: But not for Sarah, unless she likes that kind of thing.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I'll get new SNEAKERS, or as I like to call them, SNEAKS. That is both fun AND practical.

Hey, I would like to read a fairly non-trashy book about David Koresh. Can any of you recommend one to me?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

You should take Sarah to a fancy restaurant.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha at Sarah's name change! Tee hee!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to Jenny's hair cutter in a couple of weeks. I'm excited, I bet it will be better than Klassy Cuts.

Also, she got her tattoos at the same place where I'm going to get mine, so I have built in conversaton for a normally uncomfortable situation.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I don't remember who was asking me to tell them "No Man Knows My History" was good (though I think it was Jenny), but just FYI, it was FASCINATING. Highly recommended to anyone who wants to learn about MORMONS.

For some reason I have "Hits from the Bong" by Cypress Hill in my head.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

It was me, it was me! Did you get that from the library or did you buy it? If you bought it, can I borrow it? I'll loan you some books in exchange.

Similarly, I've had Li'l Kim's verse from All About the Benjamins in my head for about, oh, three months now.

Dressed in all black like the Omen. Have your friends singing this is for my homey and you know me!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Wiitala Brothers

This is intriguing to me, because Wiitala is a Finninsh name, and the area I grew up in has one of if not the largest Finn immigrant populations in the world. I went to school with and knew a number of Wiitalas. I suppose no-one knows anything about these guys? Interesting.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I remember when I got a Lil Kim album at a birthday party back in college. I was all psyched about it, so I put it on right away and then a couple of my friends were shocked by it because it was so voilent and lewd. Eventually, I had to take it off. But then I listened to it over and over in my car and started coming up with my own Lil Kimesque rhymes. And that's how I got to where I am today.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I got it from the library and it's due back next week, sorry. But it's worth the effort of getting a library card and making a trip downtown.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Nick, if I were in your position I'd buy a new musical toy/item. In my case, a new drum "throne" (I hate that word" or hi-hat stand, as both of mine are almost completely shot. A pair of KICKS would be cool too though.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

JOHN, when is the record release show?

Friday, November 18. I know it's a ways off, but that was the best we could do.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

I have a library card and am downtown almost every day! Yay for me!

That's the thing about me and Li'l Kim. I generally find her very distasteful, and the "hooker as powerful figure through sex" archetype just doesn't ring true to me because as a hooker, she is always going to have a pimp, whether it's Puff whatshisface or Biggie or a de-feminized Miss Elliot. The real power lies in the pimp, not the hooker, and her brand of power through sex is an empty achievement.

However, I do think her verse in AATB is one of the most badass rhymes ever spit by a woman. Even more badass than Roxanne's Revenge, which is pretty tough, I think we can all agree.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Should I join the gym that my company has partnered up with? If I sign up on Friday, it's $60/month, with no other initiation fees, and I can cancel at any time, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Hi Jenny! Jeff tells me you may be at the Hopleaf this evening. I'll be there around 7. Hope to run into you.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Are you there for any purpose or just drinking?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I am going to a Judge Roberts discussion panel today! I'm very interested to see the ways he might ruin our lives. Also, free lunch.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Are you there for any purpose or just drinking?

My friend Mike from Austin is hosting the reading tonight. And drinking, I presume. Probably some smoking and talking as well. :)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I love "Hits", with the "Son a Preacher Man" loop.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Yes. I just don't know why it's in my head.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I think I missed most of Lil' Kim's career, really only catching "Magic Stick" a couple years ago. Bless all of you who were into hip-hop in college.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

And, well, after college, obviously.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone heard her new record?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Nick, I'd take Sarah out on a date. A fun date night where you pay & it's kinda sexy when I boy does that (although maybe it's sexy to me b/c it didn't happen for YEARS).

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I would also buy sarah a cute pair of undies & maybe a couple of cds for yourself, so you feel like you got yerself sumthin' special.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

wait. who is going to the hopleaf tonight?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

OR BUY ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT SEASON TWO WHEN IT COMES OUT ON THE 11TH.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

although maybe it's sexy to me b/c it didn't happen for YEARS).

Erm...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Nick, maybe you should save it to get the FF record mixed or mastered at someplace really good. Or blow it all at a strip club.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

eight ball

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

magic eight ball, a lot of them.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

that wasn't directed at you specifically, j.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I know. But still!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

It's time for some Dr. Chill...

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I freaked out at the blooddrive today and had to run out of the building.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.marion.ohio-state.edu/fac/schul/drp/chill.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I really did freak out. My stomach dropped and I started rambling to (annoying) the strangers on the elevator and felt all sweaty. For a while I had considered donating, but that's out of the question.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Arrested Development season two is a good idea!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Except I should probably watch LESS TV, not more.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

You'd make a horrible goth, Amanda.

I watched tv last night! I saw that Boston Legal show, which I didn't know existed so I was impressed that it had James Spader and James T. Kirk in the cast.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

That school is horrible, they have a tragic incident every week.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I think you're thinking of Boston Public.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Boston Legal being a spin-off of The Practice, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh! yeah.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I've never seen The Practice.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I've never seen any of those shows. I ate half of the cookie and now I feel bad about myself for eating an advertisement.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Later I will digest the advertisement. That's so gross.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to the future.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I've never seen The Practice, either, but I did see one of the actors from it in the audience of a performance of Ma Rainey's Black Bottom at the Goodman. I had to be told who he was, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I had a not-very-good chocolate chip cookie at lunch time, it tasted like baking soda. Or baking powder. One of those.
I also skimmed through my copy of Donald Barthelme's 40 Stories, which I had picked up despite having read most of it before because I ran out of "new" books to read, and tried to figure out where I had stopped reading it before, in the process rereading a few stories that I had already read.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I had a large piece of chocolate strawberry unbirthday cake. This girl at work made a cake for this dude who said his mom never made him cake growing up, but it turns out his birthday isn't until next week. I don't know, if a girl went to the trouble of making me a chocolate strawberry (i.e. with real strawberries on top) cake, I would just keep my mouth shut and thank her.

Now I feel very fat.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Playing Literati -- I just made SOUPCONS

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I had to get off the train at Sheridan last night because I almost threw up/passed out. The train was crowded and hot and I was standing and got a little motion sick and then that gray, watering feeling came over me and I had to get off quick! So I sympathize with your elevator antics.

I'm going to the Hop Leaf at around 6:30 or 7 with my pal Nora (she was at our reception so some of you might have met her). She requested the happy hour date because she needs to vent a little about some school stuff, but after an hour, I think we'll be drunk enough to be inclusively social.

Here is what I found out at the Judge Roberts panel: He's like a little Rehnquist so it's really no big deal - it's an even trade. However! The next nominee for O'Connor's slot is going to be HUGE. Also, the con law professors at this school are fucking brilliant. Wow.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Awesome, Eric. I seem to remember trying to get Literati to work one time but being unsuccessful at it. Is it not Mac-compatible, maybe?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Is it bad that I think that Roberts seems like such a nice, reasonable guy?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I also skimmed through my copy of Donald Barthelme's 40 Stories

Awesome. I love him.

Some of Us Had Been Threatening Our Friend Colby

Some of us had been threatening our friend Colby for a long time, because of the way he had been behaving. And now he'd gone too far, so we decided to hang him. Colby argued that just because he had gone too far (he did not deny that he had gone too far) did not mean that he should be subjected to hanging. Going too far, he said, was something everybody did sometimes. We didn't pay much attention to this argument.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I had to get off the train at Sheridan last night because I almost threw up/passed out.

One time I actually did throw up at the Clark/Lake stop (underground) and I puked in a trashcan and no one stopped to help me. It's immortalized here

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

And this one is hilarious:

Me and Miss Mandible

Miss Mandible wants to make love to me but she hesitates because I am officially a child; I am, according to the records, according to the gradebook on her desk, according to the card index in the principal's office, eleven years old. There is a misconception here, one that I haven't quite managed to get cleared up yet. I am in fact thirty-five, I've been in the Army, I am six feet one, I have hair in the appropriate places, my voice is a baritone, I know very well what to do with Miss Mandible if she ever makes up her mind.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

ha! i already read that b/c i'm psycho & i googled you.

xpost to amanda

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

no way! i used to be ungooglable. i guess i'm not anymore. wow. that sort of makes me feel good that anyone would care enough to google me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

That "Some of Us Had Been Threatening Our Friend Colby" is the last one I read before coming back in from lunch. I love his writing but I'm not sure I understand what he's doing most of the time.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Literati works on the Mac, but it doesn't work well with some Mac browsers.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Is it bad that I think that Roberts seems like such a nice, reasonable guy?

Not at all! As a matter of fact, he IS a nice, reasonable guy. That's part of why Bush nominated him. He's like the anti-Bork. He's got conservative leanings and not much of a paper trail, and he's got a great personality so he comes across as a nice, reasonable. Even the most strident liberals on the panel I attended said Roberts was very affable.

Thank you for being there for me, Judy Baar Topinka, when no one else was. Thank you.

HAHAHAHA! Amanda, you are great!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Hee. Thanks. I need a little ego boost today because this job is GETTING ME DOWN.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I love his writing but I'm not sure I understand what he's doing most of the time.

Short answer: he's making you wonder what he's doing.

Longer answer: to take that story as a ferrinstance, he's removing narrator (unnamed and without personality), character (why would these people hang someone?), plot (what did Colby do?), and perhaps even storytelling (is this a story?) to create far more space between the lines than lines. Without any context at all, the reader must become the context, and the only meaning in the stories is that they exist at all.

But that's academic. Mostly it's just funny as hell.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Yikes, I am getting all worked up over the "help me try to save something i have broken" thread. Dan Perry and Ally are yelling at me!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

that thread is a mess.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

i think tissp is cracked, though & i appreciated what dan was telling him. dan & ally, but dan was one of the first to the thread.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

You and Dan and Ally are all in happy long-term relationships.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Never mind. Just making an observation.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Dan is just being his usual "oh, I'm being cool and jokey but oh wait someone said something that could be interpreted in some tiny way as being about me even though it isn't and suddenly I'm a huge asshole" thing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

It's kind of ironic that he started the "Call someone out for having sand in their vagina" thread.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't know anything about sandy vaginas but I know that SOs who overthink things and apologize excessively drive me NUTSO.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

that would drive me nutso too.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

more nutso:
overthinks, apologizes excessively & then doesn't change behavior from what got us in the mess in the first place.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

:sigh:

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.paraethos.com/images/allen.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

seriously dude.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, jaymc, I don't know what everyone else's problem is. I'm sorry.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

seriously dude.
seriously.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, I do the "I'm sorry I did this but you did that..." with the implied suggestion that my actions were provoked and out of my control. I try not to but I hear myself doing it sometimes. Gack. I hate that.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

(xpost to Amanda and Kelsey): What? What does that mean? I don't understand anyone anymore.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I AM WEAK.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Just get some fresh air. Go make small talk with a White Hen clerk. It's just words on a page.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

All I meant was that I am gonna come out and say that I am not a fan of Woody Allen's persona. I'm sure he's a great filmmaker and whatnot, but his I'm-so-neurotic bit grates on my nerves reeeeal bad. I was referring to the photo of Woody Allen.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Which is not to say that I'm not supremely annoying on countless levels. Because I am. Oh, am I.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

:sigh:

But he's so ... funny and endearing!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I agree with Amanda w/r/t Woody Allen. I am not a fan (of the neurotic bit or his movies) (and he's not endearing, he's irritating!). I am, however, a fan of jaymc. Seriously!

That thread was silly and made me sad because I recognized my own behavior in some of the behavior that was getting condemned.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

I apologize and over think constantly.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

(xp) Ummm ... yeah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Now I feel weak for coming over here and seeking solace and then Nick reviving the Jaymc thread. Really, I'm okay. I AM STRONG. SEE? STRONG.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

c) have a stabby hobo attack?

Nice, Kelsey. I giggled in crim pro during a discussion about racial profiling!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I fear I'm turning into one of those weirdos on ILX who splatters the board with all of their own psychodrama.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

I am the queen of overthinking, including in the realm of relationships. Generally, I think you have to compromise.

As for that other thread, I agree that if the guy just apologizes and says no more about it, everything will be hunky dorey. But also it's a bit unfair, because it assumes that guy did something horrible when he was just in a bad mood... I don't know. Does the gf never vent to him?

I'm hungry.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I think anybody who spends a lot of time posting on message boards, myself included, has both the potential to turn into that type of weirdo and might occasionally toe that weirdo line. I'm not saying that you've done that here, but just that I wouldn't worry too much about it. Your real friends will like you even if you do cross the line, and none of these other people really exist, anyway.

I'm going to go home and CLEAN THE HOUSE today and for some really freaky reason, I'm excited to do it.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

aw man, i love you guys.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

it's like we all met at weirdo camp.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm taking four days off work to clean the house!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

and none of these other people really exist, anyway.

Some of them definitely do, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre600/e652/e652117607k.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

it was called Camp Weirdo, don't you remember?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

That's what I'm saying, J. -- go splinter a White Hen with your psychodrama! It'll feel good!

Or maybe you just need a little more Natalie Merchant in your iTunes.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Natalie Merchant? Yeesh.

Fuck, I really wish I could skip band practice and get drunk with you guys tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

You need to wash yourself in Natalie Merchant until it began to sound good and you begin to beam! It may take nine or ten days, like a detoxification process.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Weirdo Camp aka The Internet

Some of them definitely do, though.

Oh, I know. I wondered whether I should say that. I guess I'm classifying people as "those I know well and want to stay friends with" and "those I don't know well and never well and whose opinions I am not particularly concerned with" and then flippantly suggesting the latter are merely friendly robots here for my amusement.

Whoops, I got flip again.

It's up to each of us individually which "camp" internet pals might fall into.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

YES GET DRUNK WITH US.

JOIN US OR DIE. Can you do any less?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

To jaymc:

First of all, nothing you said on that thread seemed particularly neurotic or unreasonable. I could totally understand where you were coming from.

Secondly, you don't seem that neurotic IRL at all. The only times I can think have been when you've been really drunk, and maybe that's just your inner neuroses escaping, but generally you seem self-confident.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

I want to go out and get drunk tonight too but don't particularly want to drive to the Hopleaf. But maybe... What time is the PARTY?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why, but I sometimes have a hard time adopting the FUCK THAT BITCH mentality.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Maybe because you're not an asshole meathead?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

eep. that means i am, then.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

oh well, FUCK THAT BITCH.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

WHAT TIME IS THE PARTY?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

THE ONE THAT I PROBABLY WON'T BE COMING TO?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm fine with getting drunk tonight, but also it's rainy and cold (I'm guessing) and sleeeeepy outside. I would rather get drunk on the couch.

But first, I'm cleaning house too! And I'm excited about it too! (well, mostly excited about it being done)

Nick is less enthused.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Sign that I like to over think things: I'm reading this book now.

x; I think the hopleaf reading series thing starts at 7:30. I will not be attending.

Wait, maybe I will if everyone is going.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I prefer a less personal stance:

FUCK BITCHES.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

John, If you're feeling left out, we can have a fight and then have a relationship talk. But only if in the end you say you were sorry and it was all your fault no matter what. Sound fuuuuuunnnn?

Is it winter yet? I want to drink hot toddies.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I really can't come out tonight. If I did, there would be SERIOUS DRAMA.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Which just means that I am going to smuggle booze into Colin's parents' basement despite the fact that THE HOUSE IS DRY.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh I didn't realize it was the reading thing. Nevermind. Reading is for losers.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

John are you mad at me now?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/img/covers/31152.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Uh oh, silent treatment.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm not mad at you, Nick. I just worried that the thread revive would add fuel to the fire, and I resented Dan's "best thread revival ever" remark.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I just assumed he was talking about my awesome Kool-Aid Man picture.

ihttp://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/images/050401/koolaidman.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

The other thing about that original tissp! thread is a certain subtext that the majority of the people reading it aren't getting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I didn't read the thread. READING IS FOR LOSERS, HELLO!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Actually, forget I said that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/27/47497837_4b2b2a9b78_m.jpg

i wish i could grow a moustache.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Dude, nice beard. I think I like the chinstrap better than the combo, actually.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

hey jaymc, i just now read the 'broken' thread but i have to find i agree with your sentiments.

but yeah, it's not like i've ever succeeded at relationships so what do i know.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I mean, neither have I -- so that just makes me feel like more of a schmuck, like I need to change my attitude to become more detached or hardened or something if I do want a happy, workable relationship.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

i nearly posted a paragraph bemoaning people's relationships but i figure maybe i should just either e-mail that to you privately or keep it to myself as it's going to offend some couples reading!!

but yeah, what you said

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

I'd be kinda interested in that, Mandee! Relationships can be crazy. I have thoughts about this stuff, but not the time to write them down.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, e-mail me!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I just e-mailed you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

okay I wrote you back!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

THIS IS JENNY:

Man, if you awesome people come to the Hop Leaf I'm really not going to want to go to see those bands and I am going to get a bad (but deserved) rep as a real flat-leaver! But you should totally go anyway because that would be fun. The end.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm wet.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Flat-leaver?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

Someone who leaves you flat, maybe?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Jenny again - It's Jesse's word for some one who says he or she will do something with you and then bails, usually at the last minute and with a lame explaination, such as "It was raining and I didn't feel like going out" or "I accidentally got drunk with some other friends and couldn't find the El station." Some one who, in other words, leaves you flat, yes. I thought it was a neat term so I stoled it.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah. I'm totally one of those.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

This is Jeff.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

And now the sun is rising over the high-rises...

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I like this chilly weather today. I busted out my fancy brown sweater. ooh la la.

John, Why aren't you talking to me? We need to have a talk.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

I was joking. ;-) I'm sad you can't come over Friday night.

Why is it only Thursday??

I'm really enjoying going to the gym. It makes me happy.
Kelsey, do you use weight machines or free weights when you work out?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Chicago is cold and wet, but its cab drvers are very charming. The guy who drove me to the Riviera last night apparently used to play with Duke Ellington!j

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Awesome.

When Nick's sister was visiting she said, "It's so weird! In Chicago, people look at you when you walk past them!" She's from New York.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Can I just say that THERE ARE NO DEFINITE RULES FOR A SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP AND ANYONE WHO SAYS THE OPPOSITE IS FOOLING THEMSELVES and we can leave it at that?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Also: THE GYM IS FUN.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

i'm home sick today! ha! how about that! take that, employers!
take THAT, people who give me money in exchange for work!

you guys are gonna have to live without my indispensible wit and wisdom today, because i'm gonna hang outside in the chilly fall air and maybe go eat at a diner with our friend who is home visiting from paris.

I LOVE NOT BEING AT WORK!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

That sounds so fun, Amanda! (but how sick are you today? I guess not must-stay-in-bed-all-day sick?)

I love the gym too.

Also, every relationship I've been in was completely different from the last (though I have always tended to go for shorter guys with dark hair, but that has nothing to do with anything). Also, people chaaaaannnnggeeee, feeeelingggsss chaaannngggeee, so even just one relationship can go through lots of mutations and become something a lot different which needs to be handled differently. AMEN.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

I think the gym is good for relationships, because it shows you that you can make your own addrenaline and endorphins, and whatever you get from the other person is gravy on top of that.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't like gravy. It's not vegetarian.

I'm excited about Thanksgiving. I get to go to Virginia then and see my dad's new-to-him house (it's from the Georgian Revival period or somesuch) and eat sweet potato casserole.

Also, who is throwing a Halloween party?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

I think the gym is good for relationships because it builds self-esteem, increases seratonin, builds stamina, and makes your sex life awesome.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Chicago 17

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Also, you get to listen to lots of great music on your ipod, including lots of silly stuff you would probably be embarassed to admit to listening to - like when Van Halen's Jump came on while I was on the eliptical machine.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

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