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― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

wow. a new thread! how snazzy! i must catch up on the old one . . . or hit the ol' hay (i need to go to sleep EARLY!)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

Huh.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jordan! I was just working on this present for Leaf & wanted to see what was happening on ILX...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Kelsey!

Maddie's doing laundry and playing Katamari, I'm just killing time before bed.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, she got over her initial difficulties and is quite good at KD now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm stuck on the gift, so i'm going to curl up & read the rest of the night.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

but hello jordan & maddie!

good-night jordan & maddie!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

Night kelsey.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

Amanda, how was Bob?

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

And yeah, I need to catch up on the old thread too. I've been -- gasp! -- working. A lot. Some would say way too hard for what I'm making. But I'm not going to bitch. I'm going to throw myself into it and get good at what I'm doing. What else in the world have I got to do?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

Son of a bitch! He was downstairs. I had about five minutes so I was just going to do a run by and say something really a-hole-ish about loving GBV and missing seeing him perform and thanking him for stuff and junk and "I Am a Tree" was playing but I couldn't find him and I ran around upstairs with my coat on and got sweaty then went to class because the last time they had somebody signing books he was right by the door and why would they put somebody downstairs????

Oh well. OH WELL.

Amanda, how was Bob? Tell me every little thing.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

is anything fun happening over thanksgiving weekend?

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Children will be happily playing with their Atari game systems while gigantic penises come out of their televisions, their mouths, and their eternally cheerful fathers.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm honestly surprised that this thread has not yet been crippled by stupid crap. Jon, where are you?!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

J+J -- I emailed you.

I would like to announce that I have FOUND MY MOJO. Yesterday I felt like a walking human bruise, but today the cold air did something to me. I'm fine. Happy, even. And motivated. Motivated? Yup.

I don't know of anything happening over Thanksgiving weekend except what's going on in my house: doing a ton of homework and cooking and relaxing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

im having a house warming party in auburn, massachusetts...who wants to come?

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Are you going to do my homework for me? If so, it's a deal. There are a lot of charts involved. Is this ok?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Which reminds me: learn how to make charts.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Me! I'd love to see Boston and the surrounding area.. some day.

I'm glad you're in a good mood, Amanda. I still am. Recording last night was a lot of fun and we get to do some more on Sunday. BOO YA! I came up with a beautiful xylophone part that didn't make the cut, but I didn't get upset about it. I went with the flow.

I was really hoping it would at least flurry this morning. Maybe it still could?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's really cold -- I bet it'll snow.

Have you ever felt the urge to eat a stick? A dry leaf with some honey on it? If so, try Kashi Good Friends cereal. If you eat it dry, it tastes just like that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Nice move with the title shift, Kenan - now we're set for life on here, instead of just for the duration of Chicago's discography.

I wonder what's going on this year that's making us all kind of chipper even in the face of short days and cold weather.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Manda, I am Good Friends with Good Friends. And Good Friends's friend, Go Lean Crunch, too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't done homework in almost 11 years....and if there is charts involved i can't help!

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you guys were going to switch to Eno albums for thread titles.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Next time, Gadget. Next time.

Bingo, What will you be serving at your housewarming party? Are the grilling days gone?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I like Good Friends cinnamon crunch, but the photos on those boxes are just utterly humiliating. Maybe they could try to make it not look like old people food?

I would be happy to switch to Eno titles, but I think maybe we should choose interstellar space names, like brown dwarf and cygnus loop. Or not. I like space names.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

no the grilling days aren't gone yet...we have a stone grill in the back yard that the previous owner had built. i may smoke a turkey after eating turkey for three straight days. but other than that im not sure what we'll be cooking up.

i also dl that Lovemakers cd you had talked about before, i like it.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

adam R(l) mentioned once that he has made up stories about all the Good Friends and how they became Good Friends.
I don't know if we really want a thread entitled Chicago: Here Come the Warm Jets.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's snowing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Or at least it was during my deeply unpleasant walk to my office.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Not by my window :(

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

i want snow in massachusetts. i can't wait until the day after thanksgiving so i can hang up christmas lights on my house like Clark Griswold.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I love snow too. I didn't see it this morning though. :-(

Did I talk about the Lovemakers here, Chris, or do you read my blog? I'm glad you like it. I still need to get my hands on one. I might buy it at their next Chicago show in early December. Had you heard any of their songs before? Because I could have sworn I recognized one of them.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

i think it was on here im not sure, but i peruse blogs every once in a while as well. i never heard any of the songs before...even though i may have in 1985.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

i hate to jump in your chicago thread to talk about a new cd i just bought, but i love it.

Plants and Animals

We're Plants and Animals 'cause we make music that's honest like a dog drinking water or a tree falling on a car and we do it with nothing but two guitars and a drum kit so we're not trying to fool anyone.

prick up your ears and pay attention to these meandering ruminations which form the perfect soundtrack to removing seeds and stems from your goodie bag...beautifully nondescript, yet evocatively romantic and relaxing ... Acoustically-based, yet softly propelled by a repetitive, gentle cymbal clash, it's perfect for a stroll in the park in a warm, summer rain or lying on your back in a tall field of wet grass, watching huge, grey, cumulous clouds carry your thoughts over the horizon. (Fake Jazz)

with haunting strings, driving acoustic guitar, heavy drums and a buoyant mood, maybe similar to walking around one’s yard barefoot.... Plants and Animals charm and inspire through their summery moods. (Exclaim!)

Think of one of the better days of your life, one of those it's-the-little-things times. Find a roof or a hill that overlooks your favorite view at sunset or sunrise, and spend some time reliving this event in your mind. That experience might compare to listening to Plants and Animals. (Splendid Magazine)

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't snowing hardcore, just a few random flakes.

I am ignoring the BIG ILX CRISIS, because in the time that I've been posting here it seems like there's one every six months or so and the best thing to do is to just let it pass in the night.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

There is SNOW and ICE here. I had to dig out my car scraper and de-ice my car this morning, burned rubber getting out of the parking lot, then spend fifteen minutes turning around and going back for my glasses.

WINTER.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

No snow here. Getting cold, though.

NOTE TO SELF: GLOVES, PLZ. Handlebars are METAL.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Do you guys wear goggles of some kind when you bike in the freezing cold weather? My eyes were watering just from the wind. It sucked!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm considering these:
http://www.trademarkmedical.com/pro/images/goggles.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I wear goggles when I bike in snow! Jenny hates them, they are like raver goggles.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

YOU CAN BIKE IN SNOW?!?!?!

My mind is blown.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

It's snowing here now.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I love biking in the winter, I finally don't sweat.

http://www.bikewinter.org/main.php

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I was clubbing myself with my frozen, useless hands this morning for not buying gloves.

(the cats peed on my old ones)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

your cats peed on your gloves? that's such a weird thing to pee on.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to know what smell triggered the cats to pee on them.
Mine have holes in them that I haven't darned since last year.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's true! (re: not sweating)

Cold weather is when my body temp as powered by exertion can cool fast enough to be comfortable.

No goggles today, but I may fetch my ski goggles when I go home for Thanks. Although, shop gogs are cheaper and just as effective.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what triggered the first cat pee incident in my closet last year, but it started a chain reaction of urinal doom. Anything was fair game. I finally had to throw a bunch of shit out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

adam R(l) mentioned once that he has made up stories about all the Good Friends and how they became Good Friends.

Didn't Nabisco have a theory about how there's an undercurrent of sexual tension behind every pair of Good Friends, and how you can tell which one of the pair is the aggressor by observing subtle facial clues?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

you can get studded snow tires for biking in snow. it's troo.

the only lovemakers song i've heard is the ass one. SHAKE THAT ASS.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to hear the ass one.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

don't you wrap your bars gib?!

i may try winter biking this year too! last year i biked until mid december & then it got too windy. i hate hate hate biking in the wind. leaf bikes year round & last night I FINISHED his little knit ear cover things! Here's a picture of what they'll look like . . . actually, I'm posting the link b/c some of you may be interested in making the "lover's tank" . . .

http://www.menknit.net/mag.html

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I'll be taking Metra after all. The amount of walking is equivalent to taking the el (el = longer walk from home to the station; Metra = longer walk from the station to work), and I don't think it saves me that much more time -- maybe 15 minutes, tops. And then when you consider that I have a ChicagoCard subsidized by my work for all my CTA needs, I think I'll just keep taking the el. Also, the Damen stop is right across the street from The Perfect Cup, where they have awesome flaxseed/fruit muffins.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I DO wrap my bars, but I like to put my hands right next to the stem, which has exposed metal.

I mean, basically I need to buy a new pair of gloves.

Bike helmet ear covers!!!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

the "lover's tank" . . .

If I was bald I would wear the cabled skully.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, Those ear warmers are a lot bigger than I imagined. What color did you use? What does the part that goes over the head look like?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Talk to me.
I want it to snow. Also, I want snow boots. Any good vegan snow boot recommendations? I don't want to be slip-sliding around this winter.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Vegan snow boots?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

You know -
vegan = no leather or fur
snow = snow
boots = boots

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I would like boots that don't eat meat, because it would be gross stuffing meat inside them.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I have enough yarn left over if anyone wants some bike ear thingys.

Amanda: is your friend's name laura?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

there's no part that goes over the head . . . they just slide up the straps & hold there (or are supposed to). i used black yarn. a black alpaca/silk blend so they're so so so soft. i have plenty to make more if anyone wants some.

ooh... here's what i wrote before i got poxy'd out.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh. I was just wondering if there was something specific about snow boots that was unkind to animals -- I learned recently that Mentos has stopped using gelatin, which caused my vegan friends in Akron to rejoice and eat a ton of Mentos.

I was thinking of going to DSL Shoe Warehouse for some boots. All I have are clunky hiking boots and they're uuuuuugly and old.

Yeah - her name's Laura.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Vegan boots:
http://www.uline.com/images/product/Medium/HD_1191_M.JPG

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

If you put snow chains on your boots and then stepped on some animals, well, that wouldn't be very kind.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not looking forward to winter, to be honest. That wind this morning was BRUTAL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Um, no. :-D

Do you mean DSW, Amanda? I was thinking of going there, but also Zappos is a lot of fun and they tend to have my size.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

That no was to Kenan's pic. Those are WELLIES.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I walked back from my gf's this morning, and it wasn't cold but the wind was annoying as fuck!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah yeah, i meant DSW. oopsie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

DSL warehouse has tiny electronic shoes and boots that are totally NOT in my size.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I need a new winter coat and I'm looking for something very specific that I haven't been able to find online or anywhere. Is there a coat store around? One that specifically sells coats?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

boots that aren't ugly are hard to find. well, functional boots. i used to have these great boots that had some tread to them, but they looked like cool stylin' high heeled boots, but substantial and waterproof leather and stuff, they rocked. and i lost them. who the hell loses shoes? i do.

DSW has a great clearance section, but it's usually offseason stuff.

xp--electronic?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

12 hour workday today, hooray!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

xp--electronic?

I think Amanda was riffing on her mistake of saying DSL instead of DSW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, how I riff! I'm like Steve Vai over here.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

i just found a coat at burlington coat factory online. it's exactly what i wanted, and it comes in petite sizes, for short people! yaaay.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

sarah, are you top modeling tonight? i forget . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

my sleepy self was imagining shoes that made beep-boop sounds as you walked.

damn.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

You could google for a Burlington Coat Factory. What kind of coat do you want? I got my big gangsta coat with faux fur trim at Target a few years ago and it has done me well. (xpost)

No, kelsey. I'll miss you guys! I'm going to the walmart movie happening down in the loop-de-loop.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have enough yarn left over if anyone wants some bike ear thingys.

!!!

...I have to get my helmet back first, though.

I'm watching LOST tonight!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys. I'm in a state this morning. I was up until 4:30 playing with Photoshop. It made me happy at the time, but now...

It's not only snowing outside, it's cold enough that the snow sticks to your coat after a few minutes. You'd never know this if you aren't a smoker, because there's no other reason to stand outside and let yourself get that cold.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I'll just knit some b/c i need a project. Although, I may switch it up & actually finish the legwarmers I started last year & I also found a pattern for this pretty wrappy poncho thing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I got to work a little after 8 and have a windowless office, so I haven't seen the snow yet.

I remember the worst day of last year's winter was the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, when there were high winds and giant clumps of snow, and I wondering if it's like that now.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Burlington Coat Factory for the first time a few weeks ago and I love it. It's like a big discount store except they have some really nice stuff. I got an awesome Thriller-looking Kenneth Cole jacket for cheap!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

come to massachusetts there are 3000 burlington coat factories here. one is a mile away from my house.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

I used to do all my work clothes shopping at BCF in Richmond. Cheap!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

No snow yet in Hyde Park. We might be too close to the lake, it's probably warmer.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

the one near my house is geared more towards the hip hop crowd. although i would look pretty cute in a sean john velour sweatsuit.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

my pretty, new ankle-length, fake fur-trimmed coat with hood!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

i'm gonna feel so classy. it's way better than the holes-in-armpits pieces of crap i've been wearing over the last 10 years.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty secure with my REI shell/fleece liner combo. It's a holdover from my "adventure sports" days.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I seriously have not bought a new coat since 1993. It's about time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

We might be too close to the lake, it's probably warmer.

I dunno. I'm five blocks from the loop, and it's snowing. Well, flurry-ing.

This sucks. Did I mention that I still don't have heat in my apartment? The only upside of this snow is that it's not rain, so at least when it snows plaster won't fall from my ceiling. Sometimes I think I'd be just as well off huddled around a barrel, burning trash and wearing fingerless gloves.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh geez -- you didn't have your landlord fix that? I thought s/he was going to! No heat?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

amanda i went to a burlington coats place out in the burbs somewhere. i can't remember where, though. saturday i need to take my car in to get new tires. i guess i'll go to this place in evanston, i know they're open on saturdays . . . i wish i had more time to scope out more local joints!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes i think that i just don't have time for in-person comparison shopping. i went to department stores, discount department stores and marshalls and hadn't found anything.

BCF online? sure, i'd be glad to. i don't have to go out into the cold just to be disappointed again.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have any of the radiators on in my apartment, but it is still warm, because I think my downstairs neighbor has theirs on, and the heat rises up through my floor.

I need a coat, too. My winter coat was in my stolen car.

Bad news: I won't have phone/Internet at home for at least another few days, because there's some problem with the wiring. Almost makes me want to go the cable route now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

i'm embarrassed that i just posted something about "how i don't have time for shopping." will someone please shut me up?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

kenan! get an electric heater! one of those "oil burning" ones . . . that's what i use in my non-heated bedroom!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have time for shopping, either. Who does?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Not me!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

kelsey, you should take a sweater on as your next project. i did a sweater once and it took me FOUR YEARS. because i'm not the best knitter, i usually just do scarves. but it turned out well in the end! i was all proud and posted a photo on the ilx crafts thread.

it's just barely barely flurrying where i am.

kenan, do your neighbors have the same prob with no heat? your landlord might drag her feet on all sorts of things, but heat is a big fucking deal.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, you have to MAKE TIME for shopping. It's IMPORTANT.

I need to do a little shopping tomorrow night because I have this friend who is having her SEVEN YEAR anniversary with her bf on Saturday.

Kelsey, Would you like to knit a teeny tiny scarf for one of my sock monkeys? Huh huh huh?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Goddamn, I really just want Internet at home. I'd even make do without heat for a while as a trade-off.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

ooo, sarah, i could knit you teeny scarves. i don't take on much with knitting anymore, but little tiny projects like that would be cool to do...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff bought me a new coat for my birthday! It's awesome. As a result, I know have a long, black quilted, fur-trim hooded, down-filled old lady in church coat that I am GIVING AWAY to anyone interested.

The wind on the East/West streets is BRUTAL. I had a meeting with a worker this morning and all he was wearing was a tweed sport coat with elbow patches like Jeff's! I gave him my hat, but I wish I'd given him the scarf, too, because it matches and holy shit, it's cold! Also I have that awesome new coat and don't need superfluous accessories.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I can crochet sock monkey accesories! Actually, not until after exams, which will probably be too late. I made Jeff a scarf and an earflap hat, and I've made myself a number of mishapen hats and slippers.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wee, little, precious lumpy and mishapen sock monkey scarves. Fucking adorable!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

i'm happy to knit a tiny scarf! maybe even a tiny earflap hat!

what color?! i have no idea if i'll actually have the color, but i may!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have a nice winter coat from LONDON FOG but it's too nice for casual occasions (eg, boozin with bros). So I need a casual winter coat. I also need: new boots since my fake Doc Martens have fallen apart, new hat/toque because the only one I have doesn't cover my ears.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if i want to commit to a sweater. there's a cute one in stitch n' bitch nation that i like, though. i kinda like fast fun things so i can have the satisfaction of finishing them. plus, i'm new at reading patterns & need a bit more practice first.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! Multiple sock monkey scarf offers! Any color will do. My monkeys aren't so much into being matchy matchy. I will post a pic of my first one as soon as I get new batteries for the camera.

And then on the Christmas cards it will be like, "I love you, Mom! Merry Christmas! Love, Sarah and Kelsey" (or whoever)

Julia, Do you have knitting stuff already?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I like these boots. Maybe you can find some on zappos too, Nick? Or we could make an outting to DSW soon?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! Reminder that the Wal-Mart movie is showing tonight for free at Grace Place Community Center on Dearborn and Harrison at 7 PM and there is free coffee and cookies and worker justice rockstar-led Q&A session so come on down!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Unless you are busy or have other plans, in which case it's TOTALLY OKAY!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

those are cute, sarah! i need to get a high pair of waterproof boots. bike-friendly ones, at that.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, if you've got the Trib, nice article about Fr0st (with one of my photos in there)...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

sarah, the more i think about those boots, the more i love them. they'd be perfect for minnesota! maybe i'll get the black or blue so if you get them, we won't be super matchy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

sans photos:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/chi-0511150298nov16,1,2960321.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

everyone at lunch? i ate mine already & have a dr's appt at 1:45 . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great article about Edith -- is it weird to have your breakup mentioned in the Trib, E?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I am making a cup of miso soup. I am contemplating running outside real fast so that when I come back in I'll feel cozy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I am poor at knitting. Everything comes out slightly lumpy with missed stitches. I just don't have the patience for keeping an even stitch. My mom is a great crocheter, I really need to have her teach me sometime. She is currently crocheting tiny variegated (aka whatever yarn is leftover) scarves for every child in her class for winter.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

(knitting talk)

i have a ton of knitting stuff, sarah, and lots of bits of leftover yarn from past projects.

kelsey, i suck at reading patterns too, which is why i've mostly avoided them and done scarves. my sweater was almost all one stitch because of being on circular needles (and increases and decreases and such, obv)...i found the pattern, here it is: http://www.woolworks.org/patterns/raglan.html

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

that still intimidates me . . . but seems more do-able than most.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's weird, J., but at least we're on good terms so it's not, like, ranting.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Damn. The Midway Plaisance is some kind of fucking wind tunnel right now.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I bet. I love Hyde Park in the fall. Even on a day like this, I kind of romanticize wandering around there working on some obscure thesis...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

I went to the library after lunch and got some movies, including The Tingler starring Vincent Price. I also got the soundtrack to Black Caesar, which will fill my afternoon with James Brown. YEEEEEEOW.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

There's some great stuff on that soundtrack, I wish I could still listen to my vinyl copy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I was just by the library, but in a coworker's car. She took another coworker and I to see some condos our company rennovated in Printer's Sqre. They were really nice inside and I started fantasizing about buying one, but then it took a really long time just to get down the hall and down the elevator and down more halls and down another elevator to the car...I realized I would never go outside again. But the windows were huge and the scenery was awesome (lots of other old buildings).

The wind is crazy like a fox!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's snowing sideways.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

My current diagnosis is: Planter Fasciitis

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean your foot? What is that?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

You have a plantar's wart?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

A fascist planta/er's wart?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Planter = "bottom of foot"
Fasciitis = the tendony thing that runs the length of one's foot

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking fasciits.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

My brain must be fried today, deliberate misspellings are making me roffle left and right (e.g. Wolferine).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

So you have tendonitis in the bottom of your foot? Do you have to take medicine?

I laughed long and hard about a grown woman purposefully peeing in a diaper on television, so you're not alone in the slap-happiness.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

anti-inflammatory medicine. like 4dv1l, for instance.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Kels, I have PF in one foot, from a fall I took years ago. Have to wear, like, Dr Scholl's insoles as much as possible for arch support, but I refuse to make sneakers my primary footwear. Getting out of bed in the mornings can be BRUTAL depending on how much damage I've done the day before, but I noticed that when I was unemployed it got all better cos I wasn't walking or standing NEARLY as much. Then I bumped my heel at dance class a few months ago and it's back to being lousy.

It WILL get better, as you must know already, but it's a slow thing. Hmmph. YMMV but I like around a 2-inch heel much, much better than flats because the curve up to the heel provides arch support by default.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

How's it going Chicago? I need a job.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

So far for this one job I'm trying to get I have:
1. Sent in a resume
2. Taken a writing test
3. Taken the day off work
4. Driven to Evanston
5. Had a first interview
6. Taken a proofreading test and another writing test
7. Emailed references
I still have to at least go back again for a second interview, if they want me to. What worries me is that I have no idea what the pay is, the woman who did the first interview couldn't tell me. So I could be doing all this and then find out it pays $8 an hour, like the last job I interviewed for.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

That's weird, Nick. Is the job in Evanston?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yup yup.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

It took me 45 minutes to drive there yesterday - and my work day would start at 6:30 AM. Hoorah!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds mildly to severely inconvienent.

6:30, WTF?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Kels, I'm sorry to hear about your PF. Everyone I know is falling apart.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

As soon as I typed that, it triggered the Modest Mouse lyric, "Everything that keeps me together is falling apart." I'm not sure it qualifies for Amateurist's ILM thread, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

That is: do you ever get a tune caught in your head, only to later realize that the associated lyrics are pertinent to your real-life situation?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, I hope your foot heals quickly! That sounds very painful and annoying.

Nick, remember that if you are offered the job, you have every right and actually really should bargain about your salary. I mean, if they are going to offer you $8/hour, they suck and should go straight to hell. But if they offer you something that you would take but seems low, tell them you couldn't take the job for any less than (whatever is a little higher than what you actually wouldn't take anything less than). You can usually get more money that way. Unless the employer totally sucks, in which case you don't want to drive 45 minutes at 5:45 AM every day anyway.

Can't you take the train? It might be quicker during rush hour.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, being able to say you won't take the job unless you get more money and MEAN IT is awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, since the job starts at 6:30, I wouldn't be commuting during rush hour. I'd be doing like 6:30-11:00 to start, then eventually 6:30-1 or 2. But I'd probably at least try the train, to see what the difference is.

The reason the woman I talked to didn't know the salary is because she said it was different for everyone based on experience and knowledge and so on and the CEO is the one who sets it.

My fave MM lyric: "Opinions were like kittens, I was givin' them away."

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

And remember, Nicholas, you already have a job so you have nothing to lose by playing a little hardball. And you are worth it!

xpost: I like that lyric, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Also, "Laugh hard. It's a long way to the bank."

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I got a little stress ball in my stomach a few minutes ago and I can't make it go away.

Wanna hear about it? Here it go:
We were emailed our holiday schedule and I was counting on 2 days off at Christmas. You see, that's when I'll be in France and I already have tickets (leaving right after work on the 21st and coming in late late late the 28th). I have 3 vacation days left plus 1 holiday = I'd be taking an extra day. I asked for the time off a really long time ago and my boss was like, "Whatever! I'll be gone for over a week around then! I don't care." So I bought the tickets. I didn't know what to do. Should I ask if I have to take one of those days unpaid?? I couldn't do anything about it now. I couldn't change the tickets. SOO... I just emailed him my time off and crossed my fingers.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

"You're the extra ton of cash on my sinking life raft" -- not exactly pertinant, but it's always been my favorite.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Take an unpaid day. Too bad you're leaving after work on the first day and traveling on the last day, you could call in sick on one of them (assuming your sick days are separate from your vacation days)!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God don't remind me of the fact that the band MAY or MAY NOT be touring in a month, and the fact that I haven't even asked to take time off yet, because I don't want to ask if we end up not rouing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

rouing = touring (wtf)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

How long would the tour be?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

But maybe no one will notice I'm taking an extra day? Or do you think I should go in his office and say, Hi, in case you didn't notice, I have an extra day there, which I wouldn't mind taking unpaid...

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Tour could potentially be a week, but in reality it would probably just be scattered shows here and there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

You could always offer "flex time" as an alternative so you don't have to have one unpaid day. Just offer to work an extra hour each day for a couple of weeks or so.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

by the way, the foot thing is weird b/c most exercise i do is low impact. i don't want foot problems my whole life!! i'm eager to curb it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it'd be nice to give a month's notice if it was a full week. I'm sure it'll work out, though.

I'm already worried about building up enough vacation days to go to Switzerland again over the summer, not to mention New Orleans weekends and other stuff before that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

We only have 1 holiday day off for christmas. I'm taking 3 though.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I guess my question is this. Do you think I should bring up the fact that I'm taking an extra day? Apparently, no one keeps track of it, my boss oked it, and his assistant said not to worry about it. She told me that the people who aren't taking vacation that week won't be in the office much anyway since the bosses will be gone.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Any quick dining recommendations in the South Loop/Harold Washington Library area? We need to eat somewhere before the WalMart movie.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

i say the exercise bit b/c triggers of my foot problem include:
being middle-aged, being female, sudden weight gain, increased activity.

The only one that applies to me is being a woman. A female woman.

In woman news, myspace is a nuthole. Yesterday, this girl I knew in high school (who was cool) sent me a message asking if I was who I was. Today, this girl I knew in high school asked me "remember me from HS?" I didn't, not right away. Then I looked at her profile & it's this dumb bitch who spread awful rumors about me being lesbian & on her profile it says, "bi." Argh! Should I write back, "well I remember you, but not fondly."

sarah, if your boss & your boss's assistant say "don't worry about it" i'd not worry about it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

What is the area near the WALMART SHINDIG called? I'm looking for a good restaurant. oooh - xpost to nick

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Kelz, what did the doc recommend for your foot?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

We get two floating holidays in Dec., I'm using them both around Xmas weekend to go down to Kansas City.

That sounds like an amazingly lax system Sarah, so I'd say fuck it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck it.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just wish I knew enough to say, "Well, I'm DEFINITELY taking this day and this day off, and MAYBE these other days, too."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I just don't want it to seem like my band is this unpredictable thing where I could be gone at any minute.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you guys need a new manager.

C4N4ST4A: NOW UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

What I was going to say before I got fuled:

Better to ask forgiveness than permission.

yadayada

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

lots of advil. maybe rub a tennis ball under it.

i'll do both & then make sure to give my foot some rubs. and beer. my foot loves beer.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

xpost No, that's just the way the biz works.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Scheduling tours less than a month ahead of time is how it works?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm about to send out two apps, writing cover letters is the worst.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

You should get a gig in Minneapolis.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

DAREST FAKE FICTIONS, I HAVE A NEW ABLUM TITLE:

The Canadian Action.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, nobody is SCHEDULING tours less than a month ahead of time. We've been trying to get some dates in mid-December for a while now -- the thing is, there are slim pickins that time of the month. And when I say "how the biz works" I mean being at the mercy of other bands, club owners, booking agencies, etc., who will say "Yeah maybe, let me get back to you," or "That's not really up to me, you should talk to so-and-so," or "I think they just want one supporting act, but I'm not sure." What we're trying to do is get on a few dates with the same band. I mean, if we really wanted to do, we could go a la carte-style and just try to find a random show to play in a random city, but I'm not sure that's the best approach, because most people outside of Chicago don't know who we are and we'd most likely get stuck on a bill that no one will actually come to. And that's not worth it for us. Not that I actually do any of the booking, anyway, but I still get defensive ...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, it's called Printer's Row and there is a really nice coffee shop off Dearborn and... Rosevelt? Maybe. Called Gourmand. If you walk south on Dearborn until it hits another street that runs perpendicular to it, Gourmand is on the right.

I just checked my RSVP page. There are 31 people that I have never heard of on the RSVP list. There are at least 10 people that I have heard of who are coming. We are showing this moving using a laptop with computer speakers hooked up to it, and a projector.

Fuck.

Everybody is going to have to be vewy, vewy quiet...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Or, Sarah, barring that, I will split my peanut butter sandwich with you.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

gourmand has good bean burgers. they're squishy.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'll probably drop by there before the show.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I guess I was thinking of the a la carte, "take what you can get in a region on a given date" method of booking tours.

I'm glad I don't book tours.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago: it's cold outside! Kelsey: where are my ear flaps?!

I wish I could make it to the thing, jenny, but I'm uh.....watching Lost. Sorry.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

good god it was cold outside. but my resume's are printed! Who wants me to send them one? Note: I expect a job in exchange.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

UGHHHHH typo in one of the cover letters. Sunuvabitch. I really need to get a printer.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

O my four housemates and I just has couscous and beans-w/-spices and vino and flowers and apples - very nice. Some of us are wearing coats and sweaters.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

watching LAW AND ORDER myself.

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

Nice move with the title shift, Kenan - now we're set for life on here, instead of just for the duration of Chicago's discography.

I missed this post this morning. Yeah, I like it. The theme now will be "Chicago: (awesome classic album cover)". And anyone can play! I've started all of these threads, but what with work and all, I'm ready to abdicate that throne. I'm interested to see what album covers the rest of you come up with. My next idea was "Chicago: In the Court of the Crimson King", but you all can probably do better.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

Or "Chicago: Parkerilla". I'm a big fan of the gatefold. You can roll your weed on it, dontcha know.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

"Chicago: Look Sharp!"

I'm just throwing stuff out there.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago:United State of Atlanta!

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

(I dont even like that album really but it seemed funny)

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

In case you're concerned, I'm dealing just fine with no heat. I thought about being a pussy and just going over to Jessa's place for the night, but I'm tired of living even part-time in someone else's space, and besides it's kind of creepy that it was once my place, and being there makes me feel like I'm hanging on to an old life that is gone, and I hate that feeling. I ain't trying to do that. I kind of dislike that apartment. It's a terrible mess, just like it was when I lived there, except I had to share the blame for it then. And there's only so much cable you can watch until you realize that HBO On Demand is not the end-all be-all of human existence. (I am happily caught up on Curb Your Enthusiasm, though -- it's not all bad.) Jessa's apartment was great for a week, but now it's a bit depressing.

So instead I hatched another plan. A better one. See, the heat is out in our new office as well, and today the boss showed up with a car full of space heaters. Cute story: as soon as we plugged them all in and turned them all the way up, they blew a fuse. We didn't get to use the heaters all day, and an electrician had to show up to get all the power back on and the emergency lights off. Hey, at least I didn't feel like I'm the only one in Chicago without heat today. My whole office suffered with me (even thought it was probably 65 degrees in there all day -- light sweater weather, even though everyone kept insisting it was "freezing." I was like, put some clothes on!).

Anyway, I stole a space heater on my way out. There were a dozen of them at least, and I stole the one out of the seldom-used conference room. I hope no one will notice, but just in case they do, I'll bring it to work with me tomorrow. And then home again tomorrow night. I'll buy my own when I get paid on Friday, but until then, I'm stealing heaters.

So anyway. I came home and rearranged my apartment. I moved everything I own into the bedroom. I don't know if I've outlined this situation before, but my apartment has no doors. Well, it has a front door, a bathroom door, and a closet door, but nothing so quaint as a bedroom door. There are just huge archways, as if every room leads to another living room. Each room is as big as the last. You could put this apartment together so many ways. If only I had more furniture. That's not the point.

When I moved in, there was a huge, thickly insulated curtain over the bedroom archway. It was ugly as sin, and back in July I couldn't fathom what it was for. I folded it up and put it in the closet. Now I understand -- it was to hold heat. I put it back up as soon as I got home. Then I turned on the heater with the curtain closed as tightly as I could manage, so that at least one part of my apartment wouldn't be dick-shrivellingly cold. It works ok, I guess.

But like I said, I moved everything into the bedroom. It's a big bedroom (like all the rooms in this place), so it comfortably holds my desk, my bookcase, my stereo cabinet, my speakers (one of which now sits on top of my cold, dead furnace -- the sound is awesome), my bed, and my all-important TV tray which holds many dollars worth of spare change by now. Everything I own fits into this one relatively warm room, and it's very cozy. It still feels like a big room, not at all crowded. It's maybe a little depressing to think that everything I own fits nicely into one large bedroom, but whatever. This is my room.

It has a high-speed internet connection, a fairly powerful computer, a monitor big enough to watch movies on from across the room (which I did tonight -- an Eddie Izzard favorite!), a fat-ass stereo system with beautiful-sounding paper-coned speakers the likes of which no one has made since the days of hi-fi, stacks of records and CDs and DVDs, and a naked woman as my desktop background. This is the room I would have killed for when I was a teenager. Funny how strangely and how late our goals are sometimes met.

But yeah, anyway. This little space heater is doing an ok job. I fear the electric bill, but not as much as I would the gas bill. And -- I almost forgot! -- I have a very affectionate kitty. On nights like this, you can't get her off your lap, but why would you want to? Imagine one of those fur hand warmers that generates its own gentle, measured heat, and purrs. Good stuff.

Anyway.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

haha OMG I just wrote a book. I didn't even notice until I posted it. Can you tell that I'm on prescription stimulants?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

Can you tell that I'm on prescription stimulants?

Yes.

Hey: Lost! Waste of my time and yours. I'd wager.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no. Don't tell me things like that.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004VWAF.01._PE8_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Or http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003GO0B.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Or http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005EBOL.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Or http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00000747N.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

I approve of #2 and #3

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, robots.

Kenan, I'm glad you've made a little nest. It sounds cozy. So what's the deal with your heat then? Is your rent lower because you don't have heat or will your landlord just not fix it like he/she just won't fix the kitchen ceiling? Or both? Also, don't forget that Nick and I live fairly close by and we have the heat on if you want to come in and warm your hands by the smokey fire (literally). Also, I'm learning to bake (slowly), so it feels very domestic when you're in the mood for such a thing.

Does anyone know anything about CUB1CLE, the Off1ce space musical?? It opens this weekend.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

No way. I just watched part of that movie the other night when it was on tube. It was depressing, as usual. I just went ahead and took the initiative to pretend that my life isn't like that AT ALL.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Nick and I live fairly close by and we have the heat on if you want to come in and warm your hands by the smokey fire (literally). Also, I'm learning to bake

Hearth and home. Can I come over and have cookies? No, wait -- dinner first. Pot roast and mashed potatoes with green beans. Then you can have some cookies. Thanks, Mom.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Um, no pot roast and I won't pretend to be your mom, BUT I might try to make some cookies. Anyone have a fabulous cookie recipe? Like one with chocolate and nuts in it?

The thing is, Amanda, that Office Space is pretty much my most favorite movie of all time. I've seen it SO many times now and it always makes me happy. (Also, Ron Livingston is my backup)

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

no pot roast and I won't pretend to be your mom

So what's the deal with your heat then? Is your rent lower because you don't have heat or will your landlord just not fix it like he/she just won't fix the kitchen ceiling?

My rent is dirt cheap and I pay it late all the time. That's the deal we have. She doesn't bitch to me, and I don't bitch to her. And, oh yeah, buy a space heater.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nndb.com/people/041/000028954/ron-liv-1.jpg

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah -- cookies! I have an all-purpose butter cookie recipe that I adapt to all sorts of purposes. Ginger-butter cookies, chocolate-cinnamon butter cookies with almonds, toffee-walnut butter cookies with a chocolate chip on top. You have eaten two out of three of these.

I like that movie too -- don't get me wrong. I just don't like my job.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

(Also, Ron Livingston is my backup)

It's good to have something to fall back on.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

John, I tried to search for the "jaymc is in a band" thread, yesterday and today, to revive it with new album news, but the search is being dumb. It doesn't seem to be working at all.

Also: does anyone listen to Arto Lindsay? I checked out an album I remembered from college radio from the library last night, and it's really good, though kind of '90's.

The movie last night was good. I knew Wal Mart was evil, but I didn't know they were THAT evil.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have a type:
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/mar/mruffalo_150x207.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/29/48985696_5eea7846fc_m.jpg

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I loves the Arto Lindsday.

though kind of '90's.

That's progressive! In Sweden, they're still in the 80's.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I like Arto Lindsay too, but don't know that much about him. I only have one album and a song on a remix comp.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I knew Wal Mart was evil, but I didn't know they were THAT evil.

How evil?!

(I couldn't see the movie, I was watching LOST)

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I refuse to answer that question unless you rephrase it as the set-up for a terrible joke: "How evil ARE they?"

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Here are some key points.

When a new Walmart comes to town, it promises new jobs, BUT over all there is a net loss of jobs in the community because small businesses get driven out (There goes the neighborhood/small town feel...)

Walmart has extra low prices, BUT this is at the cost of extremely low wages/hours and horrible benefits for its employees, not to mention the slave-like labor they use abroad under the guise of strengthening international markets.

Other bad stuff: Environmental issues, Billions of dollars spent in anti-union spy/security operations, Lack of security in the parking lots, Sexual/Racial discrimination, hiring illegal aliens, huge government subsidies, suggesting that their employees seek government medical help since their health plan sucks... that sort of thing.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I was working last night so I missed Lost.

I did stop at the record store on the way home and a guy came in looking for the Wal-Mart dvd after hearing about it on the radio. The clerk had NO idea what he was talking about (naturally, because this is the record store I hate because they have no idea what they are talking about) and I was able to explain. Another clerk called the downtown store and found out that there was some issue with the distributor, i.e. the main store got 7 copies instead of 50 and this one got 0 instead of 5.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Ladies love Mark Ruffal0.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Have you seen 'X/Y'? Good relationship movie with Mark R. I liked him in Collateral, too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

You mean XX/XY and, yep, I've seen both.

Was Collateral the Tom Cruise movie? With the wolf in the headlights?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE YOU MARK RUFFAL0.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

How evil ARE they?

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, with the wolf in the headlights. 'In The Cut' is supposed to be racy - is it?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

sarah! i forgot to give you my vegan recipe!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

GOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

(GOD NO, not GOOD NO)

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Fellas like Mark Ruffalo, too!

I have only one Arto Lindsay album, from 2002 I think, but in general I think he's good. But I'm a sucker for the bossanova, so.

Deej: I don't think there are any openings at my work, but you can send a resume and they'll put it on file.

I'll try to find the "jaymc is in a band" thread myself. Good idea.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah and Nick! Thank you for coming to the movie last night!

We had about 50 people, which was kind of mind-blowing since we were thinking we'd get maybe 15. But I don't think this was a result of our personal efforts - this anti-Wal-Mart stuff sells itself.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

It was a good crowd! Though I wanted to leave before the Q&A because Q&As always make me nervous and frustrated.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no! You could have left if you'd wanted to! I don't want to have any hand in making my friends nervous or frustrated. But I was really REALLY really glad that JT was there to do the Q&A, especially when the first question was from the West Side woman with the "Wal-Mart job is better than no job" assertion. I probably would have just looked at her and said, "Good point" or something.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's what makes me tense, though, there's always someone that wants to get in an argument with the speaker or try to trip the speaker up. It makes me embarassed. I'm weird. But Sarah wanted to stay for the Q&A so I just fidgeted.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

What was his response? I always wondered how learned people respond to that question. Q&A's are frustrating though, I agree. People be stupid and long-winded. Dan has had some weird ones that I had to sit through.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Nick was like a little kid, but I still love 'im.

I'm literally shaking. I must just be high on the caffeine. I tried eating my cheese and crackers but now I'm shaking again.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to figure out why I feel so happy and alert today, despite not getting an inordinate amount of sleep and it being so cold outside, and I think it's because it's sunny. The walk to the el this morning was freezing, but it wasn't miserable, and along the way I was able to a) schedule an appointment for my phone to be repaired, and b) buy a delicious cranberry-orange muffin.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm doing pretty good because:
1. No boss for the rest of the week.
2. Three-day work week next week, followed by a largely unplanned four-day weekend.
3. Anniversary on Sat.
4. Potential new job (even if it sounds weird, just the possiblity of something new is nice).
5. New creative project I'm working on for myself from my desk.
6. We did overdubs on three songs on Tues, bringing our total of songs with overdubs so far to six, and we're recording again on Sunday, and since we're starting in the afternoon we can hopefully get through several more songs.
7. Canasty show tomorry.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Homer did well with the q&a when he was the voice of poochy. I think all q&a's should be handled like that.

Doug: In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a
xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he
produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to
believe, that this is some sort of a [the three nerds chuckle]
magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got
fired for that blunder.
June: Uh, well, uh...
Homer: I'll field that one. Let me ask you a question. Why would a
man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time
watching a children's cartoon show?
Doug: [embarrassed pause] I withdraw my question. [starts eating a
candy bar]

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hey jaymc: where's the canasta show again? Also: do you have any mp3s on the interwebs?

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm happy to answer those questions, E.

The show is at Subterranean, which is at 2011 W. North Ave., in the heart of Chicago's exciting Wicker Park neighborhood.

And yes, there are several mp3s on the Internet, most of which can be found on the audio page of our website.

I hope this information has been useful, and thank you for your interest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

You have much better customer service skills than I do. I've been rude today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Wicker Park is UPCOMING! and QUICKLY GENTRIFYING! And ECLECTIC!

Nick and I are horrible at planning, so I don't know what we're doing on Saturday. Maybe I already asked this, but have any of you been to the Botanic Gardens?

Have any of you seen Tony & Tina's Wedding or any other musical ever which is still playing in Chicago?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

are your cellular offices open?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Canasta provides excellent service!

I will be sure to recommend you to ALL of my friends and family!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

BOTANIC GARDENS -- awesome!! It's a little cold though. We went in early June. It's free, but you have to pay for parking, so it's $12. But boy, it's beautiful. Also beautiful: Garfield Park Conservatory.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

My cellular offices are indeed open.

The only musicals I have seen in Chicago have been at the Goodman -- not any of the long-running shows like Tony & Tina.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I will second the beauty of the Garfield Park Conservatory.

What is the time frame for the C@n@$t@ show? I have a housewarming party to go to tomorrow as well.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I always forget about trackbacks.

Good thing - that blog post I made about the Wal-Mart movie seems to have had some effect:

JM pointed out that the specific Madison showing of "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" to which Dane101 has linked is, in fact, the one at our church. Which would explain the huge crowd the film's organizer, our education director, is anticipating. Free pizza = magic.

Bad thing - oh no, I had posted the link on the last Chicago thread and now there is a link to my ILX post if anyone cares to look!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, I'm glad you asked.

The show starts at 9:30 with the gorgeous, moody indie rock of P@l@xy Tr@cks, followed by the kitchen-sink indie-pop of Headlights. C@n@st@ will be taking the stage somewhere around 11:30.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen the Garfield Park Conservatory but liked Lincoln Park's Conservatory better, even though it's smaller, because it's more of an aesthetic, as opposed to scientific, presentation.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Nick is worried it will be too cold to enjoy the Botanic Gardens Saturday, but I think it would still be fun if it isn't raining/snowing/too windy. But also I've been craving nature lately.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's a valid concern, since you don't want to be wincing when you're looking at plants, etc. Also, not that I know anything about botany, but I would imagine that most of the flowering plants will not be flowering at this time of year. The walled English garden is really cool though. But it probably won't have many flowers on it. Will it?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I WANT TO GO THE SKATE PARK FOR OUR ANNIVERSARY; SO ROMANTIC

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

WON'T YOU JOIN ME ON THE HALF-PIPE OF LUV?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, we'll hit it up come springtime.

NICK, I DOn'T KNOW HOW! I'm SCARED! ONLY IF YOU LET ME WEAR YOUR BIG FLANNEL SHIRT!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

You guys should just go to different highly-populated places around Chicago and make out furiously in public. When people gawk at you, you shout, enthusiastically and in unison: SEVEN YEARS!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

But my lips would get chapped!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's all in the name of love, seven years of LOVE! Chapped lips be damned! When your love-stunt gets written up in The Anthology of Most Romantic Things Ever Done you won't be thinking about lip-chap. You'll be thinking about infamy, immortality and, of course, love.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I had the extra dough to buy this. That's like $200 cheaper than it would be new.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Wow! Seven years! That's so awesome. Happy anniversary, Nick and Sarah!

Awwwww I'm feeling really squishy now. Good thing I'm at Worker Justice, Inc. where hugging coworkers is considered normal.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

You can add this to my Christmas list too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

YOU GUYS...
I put PEPPER JACK CHEESE
in my cup of BLACK BEAN SOUP!
I am SO SMART!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

If it's Thursday, I must be congratulating Jaymc on more unabashedly positive 'nasta press, this time from the rarely-unabashedly-positive M. Kendrick at the Reader.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh but so the answer to the Wal-Mart Job is Better than No Job assertion is:

Not really! Wal-Mart regularly promises to hire large numbers of associates when they open a new store, but never ever ever actually hire the number of people that they promise to. There are never enough jobs at one Wal-Mart to serve an entire economically depressed community, but when a Wal-Mart opens, it effectively curtails further business development in the town, limiting the potential for new jobs to be created through local business development. Further, while encouraging a number of diversified smaller businesses to come into the area will ensure long-term job growth, Wal-Mart only offers a small initial spike as they staff up a new store that then declines as people realize they can't actually live on Wal-Mart wages and quit.

Saying Wal-Mart jobs are better than no jobs sets up a false dichotomy encouraged by lazy town governments/alderman who would prefer to buy into the pre-packaged promised solution of one Wal-Mart rather than put time, money, and effort into bringing real, sustainable economic growth - and therefore real, sustainable jobs - into the community. It doesn't have to be a choice between a Wal-Mart job or no job - it's only the local governments that present it in such a way. They generally get kick backs from Wal-Mart for pushing their agenda through.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Bastards.

Thank you Jenny.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, related to our thread and album covers, looks like we might have a NEW ONE! Who's excited?!

[chirp chirp]

The fortunate thing about it is we've been blessed. This is our 39th touring season, and we've never missed a touring season. We've been very fortunate."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think JT would condone sneaking into a Sam's Club to buy a kosher hot dog and a big fuck-off soda for $2? Or should I stop doing that?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Wow! There's a plastic orange guy in the band!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

What is the "touring season" and how have they had 39 of them?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Christ Almighty, the dude that my dad went to grammar school with is still in the band (the trumpeter).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Horns are one of their "signature elements" -- what would they do without that guy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Is he the orange one?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

No idea.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Jordan:

I don't think it's a reasonable stance to take to insist that people boycott Wal-Mart. That's just not an option for many people and frankly, that company is so fucking rich that no boycott would ever actually hurt them - too many communities have nowhere else to shop. Plus, putting one big retailer out of business isn't really the point (well, it's maybe part of my own personal point, but I'm so left I'm horizontal and would like to see all big capital put out of business but that's a different conversation). The point is more to encourage Wal-Mart to change its evil ways, baby, through community pressure, accomplishing two goals: 1) improve the wages and working conditions of the biggest employer in the USA and 2) demonstrate to other large employers that unjust working conditions won't be tolerated and can be changed through grass roots community activism.

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything at SC/WM but I am in a position where I don't have to. I am also a "vote with my dollar, no matter how measly it may be" girl from way back and it's a habit that's too hard for me to break at this point. Also, I don't even know where a WM is in this town. That said, I make any number of objectionable consumer decisions every damn day. It's pretty hard to exist in the USA and live a pristine consumer existance - or a non-consumer existance for that matter - unless you climb up a tree like that hippy in Oregon or where ever. Thus, I say educate yourself and make the best decisions you can.

As for JT, he'd probably have you dragged into the streets and stoned but he's hardcore like that.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Who is JT?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, well put Jenny.

I actually live 12 seconds away from a Wal-Mart, but I've only been in there once, to look for a sled last winter (they were sold out).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT IS THIS? A CHICAGO THREAD OR MY OWN PERSONAL FUCKING SOAP BOX????

No more political rants out of me today, I promise. Or if I brew one up, I'll post it elsewhere.

How is it that Chicago can defy all laws of maths and go from 21 to 30 like it's just no big deal? And I'm not even talking about that orange subversion of nature grinning in the front of the photo.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, the guitarist from my band was talking about that very amp yesterday. Mostly about how good a deal it is but how he can't justify the purchase.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know where a WM is in this town.

That's because there isn't one. Every time they try to build, like they did on the West side a year or two ago, organized labor runs them out of town of a rail. Or more accurately, the fact that organized labor still exists in Chicago acts as an invisible but powerful Wal-Mart-proof barrier.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Are Chicago 22-29, like, comps and live albums?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=2777170

The presense of organized labor didn't work too well. I believe that it could still be caught up by the living wage ordinance, but construction seems to be going ahead.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

An etiquette question: Is it possible to tactfully suggest to my professor that she respond to her email more efficiently/frequently? Is it unreasonable to think that four days or a week (!!) is too long to wait before responding to a student's email? She's not elderly and has plenty of computers at her disposal on campus.

The first time it happened I thought surely it was a mistake. Now, three emails later, I realize this is standard for her. I know that I probably can't actually say or do anything, but am I being a dick by thinking that this is unreasonable? Because it's 2005, and I do.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I still want to know who JT is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Feb-12-Thu-2004/photos/timberlake.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

"We probably pay an average of about $11 an hour," said John Bisio, Wal-Mart spokesman.
To whom? The Pharmacists and male managers?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's the guy who A'ed the Q's at the Walmart screening?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ascap.com/eventsawards/awards/pop2002/images/taylor_james_lg.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/statitudes/news/2000/09/17/olympics_btn/thompson.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.classicshome.com/images/jtremain.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

My Dad is in his fifties and he's still just getting the hang of email. I'd just use a different form of communication, like maybe leave a message on her office phone instead or drop in during her office hours.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tvacres.com/images/tripper_jack3.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

At first I thought we were talking about JT LeRoy again.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

"We probably pay an average of about $11 an hour," said John Bisio, Wal-Mart spokesman.

Let's all dance in the streets! Three cheers for barely making ends meet and dying on your feet without any savings after a life of indentured servitude! Whoopee!

Eleven dollars an hour. My ass.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nndb.com/people/546/000023477/tambor-fix.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey Tambor RULEZ OK?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I just looked at the Syrabis website. It was pretty funny. It looked kind of like where jeff & jenny stayed, but not as...themed.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost - [I'm still complaining about this. Sorry.]

But I can't drop by during her office hours! They're 12-2 on Thursdays. She's only there during her office hours, apparently. I just think she has some responsibility to her students to be more efficient than that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

WHO WANTS TO BEAT ME AT LITERATI?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Any prof worth their job would take time to make an appointment with a student who wanted one.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, I hear that some of the $$$ rooms there have PRIVATE WATER SLIDES.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Private water slides have made me forget about the slackfulness of my professor. Private water slide...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

That just gave me a tingly feeling.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like it's not exactly Noah's Ark, but it's not not a slide:

http://www.sybarisreservations.com/modules/rooms/images/detail/1_7_1_detail.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think there's anything fun to do in the Dells during the winter (ie, this weekend)? Because hotel rooms sure are cheap right now.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Ask Kelsey -- she was just there!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I just called a woman named Precious. I bet she likes waterslides too.

Lately I've had this urge to go to an amusement park. I don't think I've been to one (not a carnival, but one with real rollercoasters) since I was 19. Oh, I almost threw up at Coney Island, but that wasn't really fun.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I AM asking Kelsey, but I'm also asking everyone else! Convenient!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm changing my name to Precious.

I tried to look for info on the Dells online and got overwhelmed pretty quickly.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Lovin', touchin', squeezin', Nick. And cable TV. Other than that, not much.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

You could go to ROBOT WORLD.

Or perhaps the CIRCUS MUSEUM in Baraboo.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Or the HO-CHUCK CASINO.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't gamble, but I would go to Ho-Chunk just for the buffets.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

There's a great vegetarian restaurant called "The Cheese Factory" that you should go to. They have a website somewhere. Also, do the cheesy tourist shit. Ride on the Go-carts, eat at Paul Bunyan's All-You-Can-Eat-Buffet, just bum around. There's a fun little bar called the Steamboat or something & you could easily kill some fun hours drinking pitchers of spotted cow, playing pool, and chatting up the bartender while he tells you that you should actually throw your peanut shells on the floor & not put them in a neat pile on the bar. Other than that, just chill out with some cable & hot tubs! [i've basically recapped my dells weekend].

in "let's talk about me" news, i just spent an EMBARASSING amount of money on skincare. i should probably return it, right? and buy something more practical like pants or shoes (or at least put the $$ toward that stuff). I got sucked in by the free gifts & glamour.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

DUDES: Matt and I are going to be on WLUW tonight from 8 to 9, talking about the album/show, playing some of our favorite local bands, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, J.!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

This is probably a terrible idea, but should there be a word that's the opposite of n/a's 'Blooper!' As it: "WLUW? LOOPER, J.!"

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think you should play "Jailbreak."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think you should play... THE FAKE FICTIONS!

*gasp! I can't believe she said that! Oh my!*

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

This is probably a terrible idea, but should there be a word that's the opposite of n/a's 'Blooper!' As it: "WLUW? LOOPER, J.!"
-- Eazy (chicagoflaneu...), November 17th, 2005 2:47 PM. (Eazy) (later)

You say this like "BLOOPER" isn't a terrible idea to start with.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to be Precious!

― Precious Johnson (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I shocked everyone into silence.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

What's up with "BLOOPER?"

(Or do I not read enough other threads/Noise Board?)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's a dumb expression I made up as a joke a while back that I've been trying to get everyone to use, but it's so dumb that everyone's embarassed to use it. Like, when somebody messes something up, you say "BLOOPER!" in a funny high voice and make a hand gesture to drive it home.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sold.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cookingvegetarian.com/

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

BLOOPER: I can totally get into that.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

OH YEAH congratulations to you, John, that sounds fun. I feel like I don't get enough options to show off my excellent musical taste, so I am jealous.

Three CDS I checked out from the library yesterday:
Arto Lindsay - Prize
Green Velvet - s/t
Some Kenyan guitar guy cd that I picked out because it has an awesome cover, but it turned to be pretty cool, like Graceland without Paul Simon and sped up and with more kick-ass guitar.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I was going to wait for this until I actually had some content, but since we're on the subject, I decided that the internet doesn't have enough MUSIC BLOGS so I started a new one: Laugh Tracks. For now, the plan is to mainly allow my iPod for me to select random mp3s for me to talk about, unless I think of something in particular I want to discuss. It probably won't last more than a couple of months, but there it is. I am trying to think and write more seriously about music, and not be such an ass about it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

But now we flip the script and turn it into a 'Right On!' compliment: "LOOPER!"

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Would anyone like to see 'Domino' when it inevitably comes to the Brew 'n' View?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Probably.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sure.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Let's, then.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

They do not move.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

[broken porn images removed]

― 66, Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

What's Domino?

Some Kenyan guitar guy cd that I picked out because it has an awesome cover, but it turned to be pretty cool, like Graceland without Paul Simon and sped up and with more kick-ass guitar.

I don't think I acted very excited about this CD last night, but your description makes me very interested in hearing this.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

gaggingwhores.com?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad I have images turned off now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

It asks for a password, I'm guessing for those images posted by fuckstick "66." Someone should make that post go away, it makes loading the thread annoying as fuck.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Moi aussi.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

i got that too.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

question: should i take my fancy skincare & return it to a different fancy place where one does not need a receipt to return things so that i can keep the free gift?! that's probably skanky, right?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

I posted a mod request, I'm sure teeny or someone will get to it soon. In the meantime, if you have your images turned off, none of this stuff will bother you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

i just reloaded the thread adn don't get it anymore.

I don't think I acted very excited about this CD last night, but your description makes me very interested in hearing this.

i want to hear more about this cd too!

what was the free gift, kelsey?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

a travel/make up bag & three samples of skin stuff.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

This is it. Check out that album cover. Can the next Chicago thread please be called "Benga Blast!"?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

[broken porn removed]

― 536, Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

My cube life is complete, I've installed a rear view mirror on my monitor.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, I just got the porn pop-ups too. Was that from this thread?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

yo dudes, do you want me to make this thread registered-users only?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but it's been fixed, for now. Again, if you turn your images off, you won't see any of this stuff, including the pop-ups.

I'm ok with it being registered-only.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

yes plz.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

OK.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

okay, if an unregistered person has a problem with this, they can say so here: Can somebody kill these porn links on the latest WDYLL thread?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm being the worst kind of geek tonight. I'm totally immersed (except for posting on ILX) in customizing my computer with this. It's a shell that replaces Explorer, and gives you a whole new kind of navigation. There are demos and stuff here. It's open source, which of course means that there will be problems with, say, for instance, a theme that breaks all your programs. (Avoid anything that says "beta.") But it's well-written enough to let you back out of anything you've done terribly wrong (or that someone else has.) So far, most of my trouble has been with encountering way too many themes that are metallic and spacy and Giger-y, and not near as plastic and cool as they could be, and not at of this decade. Nerds are funny like that. I guess that's why they're nerds. Anyway, if you want to go on a PC-customizing binge, this is the place to start. FYI.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

GET ONE LINUX.

...wait. You use a PC, Kenan? I thought you were a web developer?

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

(viz. - I figured you were a Mac guy. Or is this your testing computer? Or are you all fucka too-expensive mac?)

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

Don't get me started. I love Macs, and used one at work for a long time, and fell totally in love with OS X. HOWEVER... yeah, point #1 is that I can't afford a Mac. Point #2 is that while there was a time when I would have killed for a Mac, that time has passed. The more I understand about how computers work, the more I prefer PC. If you're an art person, you're a Mac person. I am that, but there's more to it than that. If you're a get-it-done-and right-now person, it's pretty much a tie. Do whatever you like. Mac is prettier. But if you're a big fat fuckin' computer geek who does shit like build your own machine, you're a PC person. There's no other choice, really, as Macs are still totally (and sadly) hermetically sealed. The day that I can run OS X on custom equipment is the day I will become a "Mac" person.

And don't worry -- I'll get to Linux eventually. Not right now, though. Too much vital (to me) software that is sketchy with Linux. As far as I know, there is no Adobe Creative Suite for Linux. So there ya go.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

Saw The Squid and The Whale - good! A little bit like Igby Goes Down, but much better!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

The Squiid and the Whaaale looks good. I have my ticket for Harry Potter tomorrow night. Beer, burgers, and Britishers oh my. My friend flew in from Japan this week too and so I'll get to hang out with him, which will be great as I have not seen him in 9 months. Which will be a good antidote to my week at work, I actually cried when I got home today I was so angry.
Basically what happened was: "What do you mean I could have run your access report that you neglected to tell me about until now to find this information! I have been squinting at papers and screens all day for 3 weeks and I could have run this program?"

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning.
I hate stuff like that, joce - finding out you've wasted a lot of time on a useless project at work. The good news is though, that it's over now and you would have had to be doing SOME kind of work at work. But yeah, mostly you have to wait for the rage to subside.

I'm eating fancy (F0x & 0Bel) chocolate cake for breakfast (we had it here for someone's b-day yesterday).

― Precious Johnson (coco), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I slept in until 6:30 this morning! I feel rested, although I'm sure it's temporary. We got our tests back in class last night and I did fine, but I decided that my professor is a boob. She just doesn't want to put too much effort into this particular class, and it shows and I don't like it.

That said, I'm glad it's Friday and that I could coordinate my outfit with my coat.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ooof Jocelyn, I feel your pain. In the event I one day have my own practice or have a practice with a few pals, I have been keeping a list of things I will never do when I'm in charge of an office. Not telling people about reports that will make their jobs a billion times easier goes on teh list.

Dear Well Read Colleagues:

Once my exams are over, I will have a month without classes during which I can read, read, READ! Anything I want! Can anybody recommend some tasty fiction?

Thank you,
Me

xpost: Congratulations, Amanda! I knew you would do okay. I hate teachers who don't seem to care about classes, especially when I AM PAYING FOR THEIR TIME. I had two profs my first year who were clearly at the school for the research grants they were getting to do outside work and run certificate programs and they made me furious.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm...what sort of books are you in the mood for?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of tasty fiction, Jenny? I've been on a nonfiction streak lately but I could recommend or maybe even lend you some tasty fiction if you can be any more specific about what you're looking for.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

is this thread in sync with the Wizard of Oz. Do I wait for Kenan to growl 3 times before reading it.

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno about that, but I do wonder if there's a way to transport a pear without bruising the everloving love out of it. Every day I bring a pear from home and everyday it gets gross and bruisy on my way here. Do I need to buy it a carrying case or something? What more does it want from me?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

wrap it bubble wrap.

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Let's see... Something more thought provoking than Patricia Cornwall but not as hard as Thomas Pynchon.

Likes: scary books and books where weird things happen to normal people. Books for grown ups featuring anthropomorphic animals. Well done historical fiction makes me squeal with unbridled glee. Chick lit is okay, as long as it's not vapid and the moral isn't that if a girl would just loose weight and stop be so kooky, she'll find a man, which should really be any girl's goal in life.

I actively dislike hard science and diplomatic sci fi (which is why I can't just spend a month reading Jeff's accumulated books). I don't like books where rich white people have emotional breakdowns because they have realized their lives are empty.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I wrap pears in a couple paper towels then put them in my lunch bag (which is insulated) and try not to stuff them into my backpack with anything pointy or sharp.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like books where rich white people have emotional breakdowns because they have realized their lives are empty.

HAHA! Avoid the collected works of Richard Yates! I am totally with you on that one.

If you're looking for something not all that well-written but scary, try Harvest Home, by Thomas Tryon if you haven't already. I also admit to really enjoying a book about the salacious murder of Maria Marten in the early 1800s in rural England -- I read a cheesy book called The Red Barn Mystery by ?? and have another book I'm saving for Christmastime that contains court proceedings and whatnot. Thousands of people attended the hanging of William Corder and the coroner actually bound a book with his skin. Awesome. (and true!)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just admitted to liking cheesy true crime. It's true, I do like cheesy true crime, but preferably when it's distant from the present in space and time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

You've mentiontioned Richard Yates before. He's a sore spot, apparently. Did he once dump you or something?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh OH! Yes, I *heart* cheesey crime. I love modern true crime and especially love historical cheesey crime. How could I forget?

Thanks, Amanda! I'm adding those to my list.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie just read a book about a serial killer who struck during the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. Can't remember the title but it sounded interesting.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375725601/002-0829336-3616842?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, Jenny. Those specifications are pretty different from what I have in my library. Um, maybe that Will Self book about the guy who wakes up and everyone in the world has turned into apes? Great Apes? It has a really creepy cover. But Will Self is kind of...weird.
Oh! Maybe The Origin of the Brunists by Robert Coover? It's kind of historical, and kind of creepy, and totally good.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Richard and I had a nasty divorce.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

At least you got the kids.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Well done historical fiction makes me squeal with unbridled glee.

PATRICK O'BRIAN

(dude wrote "Master and Commander")

Historical maritime adventure R00LZ!!!!! Very well-written, too.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

A good summary of the events and portraits of the people involved in the Red Barn murder can be found here.

Maria was the town slut and she had a child out of wedlock with William Corder's brother before she was murdered and buried in a barn near the Corder family estate. She and William were to be married...it's a long story, a good one. I'll YSI you the song about it if you want!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I've read that one - it was a condition of putting a Chicago address on my IL driver's licence. Heh. But that is definitely something along the lines of what I'd love to read. (PS Tell Maddie not to bother with the documentary about H. H. Holmes, called, appropriately enough, H. H. Holmes. It is unbelievably bad.)

Nick, are your shelves filled with white middle class breakdowns or vapid chick lit? I guess I should have said that those are general guides but certainly not limitations, so recommend away. You had mentioned a creepy book on another thread... I forgot to write the name of it down though.

xpost: Thanks, Gib! Historical maritine adventures! Yes!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what my book shelves are filled with! Mostly popular science books and Nabokov, I guess. I'm keeping a list of every book I read this year, do you want me to type it out? Huh? Huh?

Creepy books I mentioned before: Spider by Patrick McGrath and The Magus by W. Somerset Maugham.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Patrick McGrath -- I really enjoyed The Grotesque but it wasn't really scary...although it was pretty funny. I liked it a lot. I'm looking for Asylum at the library.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I can listen to music on my work computer now, they activated my speakers. Anyone want to recommend a good internet radio station/streaming music source?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.3wk.com/

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

The Origin of the Brunists looks really good and creepy in a Cormac McCarthy kind of way.

I am not opposed to classics, by the way - I just don't think I want to spend my month off from slogging through legal reading slogging through something like Gravity's Rainbow or Ulysses instead.

I've never read anything by Nabokov, not even Lolita. You can type out your list if you want - I would be interested to see what you've read - but don't go to the trouble on my account, unless you were planning to type it out anway or wanted to or something.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Use LaunchCast through Yahoo messenger, Nick. Once you program it to fit your tastes, they have a pretty extensive library of obscure stuff -- it takes a little while to 'train' it to your tastes, but once it does, it's pretty great.

Otherwise, here are plenty of indie-rock-etc in-studio session archives:
http://kexp.org/aspnet_client/live.aspx
http://kcrw.com/show/mb

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Also, is Patrick McGrath's Spider the origin of the Cronenberg movie of the same name?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think so!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it is.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I ate a bowl of cereal at my desk this morning. It felt weird.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Books read so far in '05, finished books only (books started and not finished not included):
His Master's Voice, Stanislaw Lem
Behindlings, Nicola Barker
A Year With Swollen Appendices, Brian Eno
The Mezzanine, Nicholson Baker
The Ballad of Peckham Rye, Muriel Spark
The Investigation, Stanislaw Lem
The Bachelors, Muriel Spark
My Wicked, Wicked Ways, Errol Flynn
England's Dreaming, Jon Savage (reread)
Cloud Atlas, David Mitchell
Ever Since Darwin, Stephen Jay Gould
Number 9 Dream, David Mitchell
Epileptic, David B.
Fathers & Sons, Ivan Turgenev
The Dalkey Archives, Flann O'Brien
Ripley's Game, Patricia Highsmith
The Big Nowhere, James Ellroy
The Panda's Thumb, Stephen Jay Gould
The Moustache, Emmanuel Carrere
The Overcoat and Other Stories, Nikolai Gogol
Under the Banner of Heaven, Jon Krakauer
Ghostwritten, David Mitchell
Clandestine, James Ellroy
American Tabloid, James Ellroy
Into the Wild, Jon Krakauer
Elect Mr. Robinson for a Better World, Donald Antrim
The Taste of Salt, Patricia Highsmith
Into Thin Air, Jon Krakauer
A Cook's Tour, Anthony Bourdain
Fast Food Nation, Eric Schlosser
Brighton Rock, Graham Greene
Kitchen Confidential, Anthony Bourdain
Tales of Hoffman, ETA Hoffman
The Cold Six Thousand, James Ellroy
This is Reggae Music, Lloyd Bradley
At Swim-Two Birds, Flann O'Brien
Pastoralia, George Saunders
No Man Knows My History, Fawn Brodie
The Great American Novel, Philip Roth
Bare-Faced Messiah, Russell Miller
Mr. Wilson's Cabinet of Wonders, Lawrence Weschler
Reefer Madness, Eric Schlosser

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god, the Mezzanine. That's the shortest book I've never finished. I haven't wanted out of somebody's head that badly since the last bad acid trip I suffered through.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

So would everyone recommend Devil in a White City? I was thinking of checking it out.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, I loved it, and I'm pretty sure John did too!
xpost, talking about The Mezzanine

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dan loved the Mezzanine too. I didn't read it for fear of being consumed by NB's brain.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

nick's list of books read in this year is much more impressive than mine.
I just finished Goodnight, Nobody by Jennifer Weiner and it was very good in a not-too-intellectual way. I think Sarah would like it a lot. It's about a woman with three young kids stuck in the suburbs of CT who has been reflecting a lot on her younger years in NYC, until she finds her perfect mommy neighbor's body with a knife in her back.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah - yes! Definitely. It's really interesting and I already knew a lot about H. H. Holmes.

Nick - You're both crazy. And apparantly, so is Dan.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't finish The Fermata. I got to the fiction-within-fiction garden orgy poop hose erotica section and gave up.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

fiction-within-fiction garden orgy poop hose erotica section
Yikes.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Goodnight, Nobody - added to list.
The Fermamata - NOT added to list. Poop hose? Nevermind. I don't want to know. Talk about two words you don't want to see used together. Wow.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

I hadn't heard of Goodnight, Nobody and I loved Good in Bed (and In Her Shoes was ok, but not as good).

My schedule so you can stalk Nick & I this weekend:
Canasta cd release tonight
Romantic Anniversary brunch at Lula's Cafe tomorrow
Edith Fr0st cd release tomorrow night (Nick, Ben asked if we want him to go ahead and get our tix when he gets his & his ladyfriend's - should I say yes?)

― Precious Johnson (coco), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

A little bit like Igby Goes Down, but much better!

Good, I hope so: I hated Igby Goes Down.

I slept in until 6:30 this morning!

Haha, I think the only two times I've woken up that early all year are a) when I had a morning flight to NYC, and b) when the band played the Chicago Marathon. I shudder at the thought of that being considered "sleeping in."

Anyone want to recommend a good internet radio station/streaming music source?

Full albums here. There doesn't seem to be anything too interesting there now, though.

Oh no, I loved it, and I'm pretty sure John did too!

I do quite like The Mezzanine, but the second time I read it, I remember being acutely aware that the main character's constant self-analysis reeks of the sort of solipsism that goes along with privilege -- and so I can see how it could be annoying. That said, it's also very funny, and I love all of the tangents and details. It's proto-Larry David in many ways.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't read The Fermata but I actually sort of admire Baker's unabashed perviness.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I will be watching the Romantic Anniversary brunch while hiding behind the salmon-colored Financial Times.

Or I'll just see you at the other shows (I'd say get the EF tickets - been getting a lot of press, so it might sell out).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

at the mention of creepy books, i always think of under the skin by michael faber...i just looked up the amazon review and it says
...The ensuing narrative is of such cumulative, compelling strangeness that it almost defies description.

it gave me really fucked up dreams when i was reading it.

i need to find some well-written but v compelling books on tape. this is always a quest of mine, which i periodically give up on, then reresume.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I hated and never finished The Mezzanine as well.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think Larry David is a very good comparison: if you can identify, even a little, with Baker's persona, then he's a pretty fun read, but there's a significant portion of the population who would probably just find him disturbing and gross. I love The Fermata too! The sex story within the story is funny!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, The Fermata and The Mezzanine might be the only books by Baker that I've read.

I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't try to recommend books to Jenny.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I like N. Baker a lot. I remember skipping over the story-within-the-story in The Fermata, so I missed the hosiery. I work in a building (55 East Monroe) with a lobby that is absolutely absolutely identical to the one described in 'The Mezzanine' - a CVS drugstore, an escalator leading up to a mezzanine level of offices, etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Funny. The first time I read it (1993?), CVS was still this exotic East Coast store.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I shudder at the thought of that being considered "sleeping in."

You shudder at my life.

Unabashed perviness, though, we can all appreciate. I read parts of NB's collected essays (what's it called? I can't remember) but never finished the whole book. I liked it enough.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

All I've read is Vox, and I didn't much care for it. I guess I get what he was going for, but it seemed a bit half-baked. Maybe I should try him again. Of course I also enjoy unabashed perviness.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the essay collection is something that you can dip in and out of. His fond reminiscences on card catalog are nice, but there's really no reason to wade through his 30 pages on the meaning of the word "lumber."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think I admire NB for his attention to detail and his ability to write accurately and entertainingly about the tiniest, least important parts of life than for his perviness. That's just a bonus.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's proto-Larry David in many ways.

*bangs head against wall*

No, Nick, you should recommend me books. The worst that will happen is that I'll get them from the library, start them, not finish them, and hate you and hold it against you for the rest of your life.

Jeff and I are going to Bears game on Sunday! I really want to go see C@n@st@ tonight, but am really tired and worn out from my week and honestly might not make it.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite Baker books are his nonfiction ones - U&I, Double Fold, and half the essays in The Size of Thoughts. There's a new book - "The World on Sunday:Graphic Art in Joseph Pulitzer's Newspaper (1898-1911)" - that comes from newspapers that he collected that were otherwise going to be pulped. If you want to see where Chris Ware gets his ideas from, check this out - some amazing design. Things like this - http://www.twbookmark.com/images/37/110620.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think the perviness really just has to do with his willingness to expose all aspects of "his" life ("his" in quotes because most of his fictional protagonists are veiled versions of himself).

I think my favorite Baker book may be U&I, and you don't even need to be familiar with Updike to enjoy it.

(that was an XPOST, btw!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Pardon all these messages, but there's one particular Baker essay called 'Books as Furniture' (in The Size of Thoughts) where he studies the books that are used as props in catalogs by Crate & Barrel, Pottery Barn, etc. - really fun. I couldn't make it through 'Lumber', either. The best thing I can say about him is that he puts ideas and images on paper that are recognizable but may have never been recorded before (not unlike Larry David, or Alanis, for that matter).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to WFMU online, and it's really fun, but they don't tell you what you're listening to. The last half hour has been old blues stuff.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Re: Canasty
I don't think I can make it tonight either...I feel bad and would love to be able to go, but it's been a really hard week (up at 5 every day but today) and I have to be ON TOP OF IT this weekend if I'm going to do my final project like it ought to be done.

I do hope that Jaymc's secret admirer is there! Who knows what's gonna happen?!!??! It could be utter mayhem!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

As far as Alanis' observational skills are concerned, I could have lived forever not knowing what it's like to blow Dave Coulier in a theater.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

But to put that in a pop song, Manda! Or to start a top-40 song talking about antibiotics! OK, no more defending A.M. from me here.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, no sale.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Unabashed perviness, part deux

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Da Bears.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Who cares?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Chris Ware?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not going to Canasta tonight either because my foot probably can't stand the standing. Also, I need to wake up early tomorrow to take my car in . . . but honestly, the foot is the reason why I'm not going.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Where is everyone? Hello hello hello hello... ECHO Echo echo echo echo...

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to lunch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Kels, what if we get a big chair for you and put it on the side of the stage and then make something up like you won a raffle and the prize was watching a Canasta show from the stage? I am only half-joking.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

John, even though you didn't ask me to play bowed guitar on "Just a Star" with you tonight, I'm bringing my guitar, amp, bow, distortion pedal, and delay pedal, because I knew you were just too shy to ask.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I saw C@n@st@ on PBS or public access for like 2 minutes last night. The sound was terrible - like only one channel coming across, or maybe even worse than that? What's with those TV people?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear God, please don't tell me you saw that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

(And haha Nick, I think Ted is going to play slide guitar on that one, actually...)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, though, Dan, can you just forget you saw that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

What happened, John?

I was trying to think of the most obnoxious thing I have to play. I guess I need some more obnoxious instruments. Maybe an accordian?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Were you wearing a fringed vest or something? Why is it so bad?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

No, no, nothing like that. We just played really poorly, and the whole event (H00t Night) was weird -- first of all, we were playing at the Chicago Cultural Center, so of course the sound left something to be desired. And then second, we didn't have time to prepare cover songs like the other performers (like Eazy), so we just did a spoof on "Sl0w D0wn Chicag0" entitled "Ch0w D0wn Chicago0" -- which is maybe funny if you know the original song, but 95% of the room did not. So it just sort of seemed stupid for this entire six-piece band to get up and play one song, which was more or less a joke anyway. I still love H00t Night, though. It just wasn't our best moment.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Re accordions: when Dave M@x Crawf0rd came to rehearse with us the other night, he said "I come in right after the accordion, right?" We all looked around and realized he meant something I played on the keyboard. Ha.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

It's kind of like getting a bad review where all people remember afterwards is that your name was in the paper - people don't think 'Wow, that sucked' - they think 'Hey, saw your band on public access and couldn't hear it well'. I mean, Kraftwerk would probably even seem shitty on public access video. (I haven't seen the t.v. h00t, though.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I mean, I actually haven't seen it, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I assumed this was related to your WLUW thing, how did that go?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that went well, I think! We played four songs from the album, and then I played Sam Prekop, Volta do Mar, The Changes, Velvetron, and Green, and Matt played Midstates, Eric Z., Zapruder Point, Diverse, and Palaxy Tracks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Not in that order, though -- it was more like one Canasta song, then Matt, me, Matt, another Canasta song, then me, Matt, me, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

The FFs should totally do the show once your album is released -- either play live in the studio or do what we did.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, I can still see it when I close my eyes!!!!

All joking aside, I just wondered what was up with the sound... thought it might have been the TV. No critiques otherwise!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that's good.

OMG I just got the veggie chili from Bake For Me, and it's delicious. Black beans, kidney beans, zucchini, mushrooms, corn, and tomatoes, with just the right amount of kick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's an underrated pleasure? Pretzels dipped in salsa.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Um, didn't we already play there?

― Precious Johnson (coco), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

No, we played on WHPK, at University of Chicago. They were on WLUW, which as I understand it is "community radio."

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well yeah, but it's also the station for Loyola U.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Pretzels dipped in salsa.

Sounds aggressively fat-free.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I used to live with a guy that does stuff at WHPK & is also, incidentally, in the TAL comic book. Remember that, john?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Do I ever! Dude was a dick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Pretzels are kind of the perfect snack, at least in the salty-carb division.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

There's a This American Life comic book? Is it very emo? I'm rather scared by the concept and I do love me some NPR, but TAL has become too precocious for me. I think the 10-minute food slot has better things to say about the US now.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's more or less a behind-the-scenes of how to produce a radio show. Jessica Abel did it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not too fond of her stuff.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

It just struck me as very same-y after a while when I read a compilation (artbabe # x).

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm just in a bitchy mood today. Can I amend what I said about TAL to only apply to the David Sedaris/Sarah Vowell crowd? Perhaps I'm just tired and cynical.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I just thought of an album title for my imaginary Linguistics supergroup, which consists of my friend Jill and me on cheap keyboards: Frenetics and Phrenology.

Get it? Phonetics and Phonology? Frenetics? Phrenology? Keyboards?! Ha!!!

I'm nervous about comps.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

TAL has become too precocious for me

YES.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Compilations are nothing to be frightened of, Amanda. Sometimes they're a good way to get an inexpensive sampling of a genre, artist, or record label.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Huh?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Kidding. You're talking about exams of some sort, right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.soundspaces.com/catalog/images/The_Roots_Phrenology_L.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Rats. Oh well. We'll never make it to the recording stage anyway.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

There's a strong candidate for future-thread cover art.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with y'all on TAL & I used to intern there (this is probably old news). I told myself that I would never want to work there full time for a number of reasons, really.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean precious or precocious? I think it is a little excessively precious/in love with the sound of its own voice.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I just fear that it moves away from its pedestrian roots too much.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I have never listened to TAL. NEVER.

You guys. I am sooooo bored. Is it the weekend yet?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of TAL is really really great radio.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really listen to the radio anymore unless we're in the car, and then it's usually either the oldies station or the hip hop station.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

talk keeps me awake in the car so i end up listening to a lot of NPR or conservative crap. or bible call in shows.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to the FRESH AIR with Bruce Springsteen on Tues. when I was driving to Evanston. It was reasonably entertaining. My favorite part was when THE BOSS said the subcontext of every rock song is "Are you going to pull your pants down?"

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

combine them and then you have hip-hop oldies, lol!!!111 what would that be like it would be like grandmatter flash nad run dmc prolly, tho would they play "walk this way" probbly because auerosmith is classic rock, so you listen to the classic rock station too dont you that s how you know about rush and chicago and boston, am i right?? am i right??? who listens to bill oreilly on wckg at night? honestly, tho, i like to listen to terry armour and stan lawrneece in the early evening because i appreciate afro-afmerican professionals in the line of work of radio (also see richard steele, tavis smiley, marian mcpartland ... j/k!!!!! she hangs out with a lotta black doods, but really she is from england. and she is WHITE. like alabaster, ppl. plays a mean piano tho. "oh that is a simply MARVELOUS tune. you MUST join me.) anwyway then bill oreilly comes on. it is called the "radio factor." he is not nice tho. he is arepublican, i hear.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc tries crack for the first time?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

omg a republican more like a redumblican! shwarzeneger is kind a hunky tho LOL! jmc whassup"? are you going to get all the flie honeys at the canasta sho 2nite? yeah you are! boo yah

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

omg crack,more like butt crack! LOL! right?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

stop drinking the hatorade amanda!!!! LOLZ :):)!!11

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

you btitches betta reckanize my power, yo! your too funny jkjk.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

i am listening to wfmu on the computer, more like wf'edup LOL!!! ;)

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

john, are you really john? you're writing like the Anti-John!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

bible call in shows.

Holy shit! I do this too! I LOVE listening to crazypants bible shows when I'm driving long distances late at night.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad to hear you say this b/c I was sure I was a little bit sick.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I love Christian radio stations. It's surreal sometimes. The songs are totally indistinguable from the songs on regular pop radio, only instead of all the songs being about girls, they're all about an invisible man in the sky. Wiggy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

awwwww you're just jealous. i'll tell you one thing i'm not gonna do tongith, and that is wear a cape like rick wakeman. one time i was being inspected by a doctor, it was a heart test or something, i had to run on a teradmill for some time, then go lie down on my side like a dog and the dcotro sed oh you're a keyboardist1!!! are you like rick wakeman of the popular combo yes? and i was like yes? and he said what? i said yes? he said yes yes what is it? and i said yes and he said yes yes yes and then d3m3tri LOLas came along and said why on ilm after i goto bed is ilm all yessssed out and its a reference to james jhoyce's ulysses but not really i dont think.## oh and not james joyce who was the chief of the chicago fire dept. that dude is SICK.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

the invisble man's name is wiggy??!?!? thats hilarious. i never learned that at SUNDAY SCHOOL hahahaha!! roffle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

also: indistuighishable from pop songs? really?? is there CHRISTIAN CRUNK???? hahah!!! lil jon the baptist!! YEAH. OKAY!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, is ILX boring today. whats crackin in chi-town?

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.wackypackages.org/realproductsscans/capncrunch.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://schools.sd68.bc.ca/ruth/Classes/mrtaylor/class20022003/idioms/idioms2003/idioms3/puppy%20love.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

hi pete!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/5033745/Fifteen.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

crackin' is right...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

hey dudes! did you guys get any snow-nadoes?

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

PETE are you guys going to have a MEGAFAP when I'm in the DC area for xmas?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

yes, definitely. im in arlington, and i heard thats where youll be!

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

but seriously - i didnt come here to talk like im from DC. i want brick oven deep dish pizza and house music and etc etc!

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

(ive never been to chicago)

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to Arlington, Fairfax, Falls Church...I've done some time in old town Alexandria, yo.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

We are all totally gorging ourselves with Giordano's and listening to Felix Da Housecat as we type. Or at least, I am.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bored with my new personality.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, John. You're like a spammed version of you.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

you could try going to the DC thread, jmc...

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

CATTIC - im playing texttwist - what can i get????

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

TACTIC

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

the one and only time i was in the district of columbia was in 1991.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal1/orly_owl.jpg

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

i lived in dc for a while after college.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

you know the main problem with DC? the fact that buildings cant eb any taller than the capitol. it makes for a ridiculous city. i mean, NYC sometimes overwhelms me with its horizontal and vertical density, but i WOULD like a downtown area of DC where the buildings are huge, and there're some neon signs, etc etc.

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

TIC TAC

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

yeah - i hoped that would count, but no dice. the 5-letter ones were better, though. ATTIC, CACTI, TACIT. those words are awesome.

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Things I like about D.C. - the subway system, the nature, the public structures, the Phillips, my friends there, the simoultaneously sterile and intelligent 'vibe' of the social outings I've been on there, Olssons...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

is the L convenient?

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Solicitor General Ted Olson?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I find the el more convenient than the trains in DC. I had to walk for 30 minutes just to get to the bus stop that took me to work and it also took me 30 minutes to get to the Dupont stop. It was a short walk to the Black Cat though, that was nice.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

DC is one of my least favorite cities ever.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

FREE MUSEUMS

The L is generally convenient, but I think an odd thing about it as opposed to the DC Metro is that the L map is centrally focused, as most of the lines go from the edge of the city to downtown, then go around the downtown area, then go back out ON THE SAME LINE. So for example, I'm NW of downtown. If I wanted to go somewhere S of downtown, I'd have to take one train downtown, transfer, and take a second train to the southside. Unlike the DC metro where most lines go from one extremity to another. So a lot of times a bus ends up being more convenient.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Thing I hate most about DC besides the traffic: 930 Club

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I do like the free museums in DC, but I would much rather visit than live there again.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.transitchicago.com/maps/maps/fwebmaptrain.gif

http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/images/SysMapC_05.gif

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

ok - so last night, i went to happy hour with some people from work for my one coworker's last day, and im getting ready to leave to meet my friend for dinner. i go to leave, and one of my cooler coworkers (i am BY FAR the youngest person in my office at 23) says to me quietly, "yeah - youve got more drinks to have!", and i go "yeah bitch! i got places to go!" what?? why would i think that was ok? i mean, it WAS ok - she laughed, but i just totally forgot that i wasnt with all my friends.

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, your complaint about the el reminded me of this great Gapers Block article.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Their font is TOO SMALL.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

What do you hate about the 930 Club, Jeff? The St00ges Brass Band are playing there tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

I seriously can't tell if that article is for real or not.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean? I think it's just someone geeking out about the possibilities for urban design.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Horrible sight lines, unless you have a premium position, you can't see anything at crowded shows.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

black cat is way better, but does have those annoying lights from above that always seem to be right near me.

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's just kind of...crazy. But it would be nice.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, how I wish the Green line still went all the way to Stony Island on the 63rd street branch. The guy who gave us our tour of campus when I got hired at the U said it used to, but no more...

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

SOMEONE HAS GOT A CASE OF THE FRIDAYS AND THAT PERSON IS ME

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tgifridays.com/New_Images/logo_hotstuff.gif

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Did you know you can buy a CTA transit shower curtain?

http://www.transitchicago.com/store/images/shcur.jpg

Hello, shitty Xmas presents!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Er, transit MAP shower curtain

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Additionally, fuck TGI Friday's I'm going to APPLEBEE'S MAN!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I like the TGIFriday's veggie burger, it's pretty tasty!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie's going out with some friends tonight so I think I'm going to have my own dude's night in. Gym, pizza, video games, and the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly on dvd.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I could really use a new shower curtain.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was kidding about Applebee's. I'd rather buy queso tamales from the dude that comes by Quenchers than go to one of those suburban yuppie "bars."

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

We should go against our urban artist demographic and have a happy hour at Bennigan's sometime.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I went there with some temp co-workers once and it was 1) expensive and 2) terrible. Watery drinks and gross food. And, if we're being honest, unpleasant company.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Totally. I could go for a Strawberry Megarita (TM) right now. And some Awesome Cheese Sticks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! I'm going home. Case of the Fridays = CURED

Have fun at the show tonight (and break a leg, jaymc). I'm gonna try to make it, but there's going to be a drunken Estonian that won't want me to leave.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

OK, say hi to your mom!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

SWEET JESUS SLOWEST FRIDAY EVER

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, wasn't it the last 'nasta CD release show where Kelsey and I were, uh, as blitzed as I've ever been?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

TELL ME ABOUT IT

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there's not much to tell, I've just been sitting at a desk all day, and it's been really quiet, and - oh. You were talking to Eric, weren't you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

NO I WSAN"T TELL ME ABOUT YOUR DAY IT SOUNDS LIKEMINE A BIT

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

K. and I had a bottle of wine at Penny's, and then we were still early for the show, so we went to a bar and split a second and perhaps third bottle of wine, and at some point during the show I told Jaymc's parents how smart a kid they had and how he was going to be a famous essayist or something like that, and, and...I think I bought people drinks, and...I think I shouted stuff at the stage (positive reenforcement, not heckling!)...and..um...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I've always wanted a CTA shower curtain, but I can't stand plastic ones.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

You prefer silk?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

YES!!!! We were both quite drunk, although I've been more drunk since.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 November 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck tonight, Jaymc! Have a great weekend everyone. I'll be hibernating/homeworking.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Bye! Thanks!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, have a good show. CD release shows rule.

(actually I'm not leaving yet, I've still got work to do)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hey John! Have a good show! Release that CD real good!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT TIME IS THIS SHOW?

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 19 November 2005 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

Never mind. Asked the internet. I am now informed.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 19 November 2005 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

Full house for the 'nasta show last night. I hung out mostly in the upstairs gallery, and halfway through their set I walked to the edge of the gallery and looking down and saw a huge crowd. Sounded good, too - these are still the good old days.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 19 November 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I blew it at the Nasty show last night. Showed up right as Headlights were finishin g(pretty good!), got one beer, felt ill (heartburn + nausea) and skedaddled home and went to bed.

Sounds like it went well, though!

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to the Bears/Panthers game today!

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Sunday, 20 November 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

and fuck a bear.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Sunday, 20 November 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Tell that to Scooter Libby.

I finally have Internet access at home. Hallelujah!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 20 November 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest.

-- from The Apprentice, by I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 20 November 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

That's disturbing.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

"aroused"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

And really, what the fuck. That doesn't even make sense in a lurid potboiler kind of way. It's just nonsense. He needs to get some writing lessons from Laura Bush.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

The Fake F1ctions: Aroused the Bear with a Stick

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

I met a girl at the Appl3 St0re today. We started chatting as we were both waiting for our computers to be fixed. She was really friendly and cute, and after she told me she was studying film/video at the Art Institut3, we talked about Ivan Albr1ght and Chuck Cl0se for a while. I left with her e-mail address, yay.

Then I got home and discovered through some cursory Googling that she may be 19 (that is, if an abandoned MySpace page is accurate) -- yeesh!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

Then I got home and discovered through some cursory Googling that she may be 19 (that is, if an abandoned MySpace page is accurate) -- ~~yeesh!~~ kickass!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

Way back when
In Sixty-seven
I was the dandy
Of Gamma Chi
Sweet things from Boston
So young and willing
Moved down to Scarsdale
Where the hell am I

Hey Nineteen
No we can't dance together
No we can't talk at all
Please take me along
When you slide on down

Hey Nineteen
That's 'Retha Franklin
She don't remember
The Queen of Soul
It's hard times befallen
The sole survivors
She thinks I'm crazy
But I'm just growing old

Hey Nineteen
No we got nothing in common
No we can't talk at all
Please take me along
When you slide on down

The Cuervo Gold
The fine Colombian
Make tonight a wonderful thing

No we can't dance together
No we can't talk at all

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha. Nice.

Weird, I didn't see Eric or giboyeux at the Canasta show, but it was really dark and crowded and I kept feeling like I was accidentally ignoring people because I couldn't see anyone. Plus I wasn't feeling very social, so it's ok. Anyway, it was a fun show. P@laxy Trax were great. The Canasta cd is pretty sweet.

I had fun recording more last night. I played melodica on a song! We're crazy!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I had a great weekend but now I am back at work, which dampens my mood. I'm also having a bit of a what-should-I-do-with-my-life crisis.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. Where is everyone? I had a fun but sleepy weekend.
Fri: Canasta show, slipped out a little early because I was tired.
Sat: We planned to go to Lula's for brunch, drove there, paid for parking, found out it was closed for a memorial service. Decided to go to Victory's Banner instead, drove there, found out it was closed to prepare for Thanksgiving (!?!). Ended up eating at Hilary's Urban Eatery instead. Went to H&M to look for winter clothes, failed. Went to Edith Frost cd release at the Hothouse (really nice venue!) with Ben & his gf. Saw John, Eric Z. Edith remembered who I was, I felt special.
Sun: Got up, cleaned house. Was excited for recording. Got call from dude saying he couldn't start recording at 2:00 as planned, had to push it back to 5:00. I got grumpy and frustrated for a while. Sat around the house, took a nap with the cat, we watched the beginning of "Madagascar." Then went and recorded, which, as mentioned, was fun. I revitalized a song that I don't like that much with a super fuzzed-out guitar riff.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

The cat didn't watch Madagascar, the "we" there refers to Sarah and I. In case you're confused.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like fun. I didn't do much over the weekend, but I got a lot of work done and now I remember what a finite if-clause is and have data for my project. I also made chocolate-orange cookies and some other stuff, including apple crisp.

This morning I successfully treated a migraine with the most delightful medicine that, when taken on an empty stomach, makes my extremities feel warm, large and heavy AND gets rid of my horrific headache. I hope it lasts all day, but it won't.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

kashi go lean crunch is my new FAVORITE CEREAL!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yum. That stuff is good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

In honor of the C4n4st4 release show, I dug the cd out of the backseat of my car. No offense, I have a lot of cds bouncing around back there.

I had a lazy weekend, played a lot of Rachet & Clank and ate a lot of food. Didn't go to the gym. We rented and watched some high-quality non-zombie movies, which made me very happy. Wild at Heart was very silly and Lynchian. I liked it. We also watched the Helena Bonham Carter period drama The Wings of the Dove, which I also enjoyed a surprising amount.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

My entire office is quitting after a debacle on Friday involving everyone's paycheck being short and a few people's checks bouncing. This is no shit. There's an unofficial meeting going on in the front of the room, with people saying things like, "What a shame. I really liked this place." This company is well and truly fuxored. Looks like I'm back on the looking-for-a-job train.

Anyone have any leads for me? I can do what Jeff does in a heartbeat. I'm ready to sell my soul for more money.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

OH NO!!! That's horrible!!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I meant about the job, not your soul -- your soul is resilient.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, Kenan. Your luck can only get better now. Do your coworkers have any plans about where they're going to look for work?

― Precious Johnson (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Holy crap, Kenan, that blows!

...I'll keep my ears open?

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Kenan. That is dumb. Maybe you should not quit and just do everyone else's work and take over their salaries. You might not get paid every week, but when you do, you'll get megabucks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan-Maybe I'm being too optimistic but is it possible that it was an honest mistake by the accounts department? (If you have an accounts dept. If it's the owners cutting the checks then I guess you're in trouble) Our payroll people are notorious for messing up vacation days and paid time.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds skeeeetchy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Accounts might screw up delivering paychecks on time and stuff, but that doesn't explain the bouncing. No company should be so close to the margins that they can't afford to pay their employee's salaries.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

That sucks, Kenan. Sometimes I'm glad I work for a 250-year-old company.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I work for a company run by a clearly insane person, but at least our paychecks are solid.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'll check the intranet job boards.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, according to our intranet, the production position I emailed you about is still open.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, you could almost certainly get a job here, Kenan, but it would be a bit of a commute.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, Kenan. That is sketchy. If you want to bring the unpaid people into the worker rights center, we can see about doing something to make sure everybody gets paid.

I'll keep my ears open for computer dude jobs among my legal buds, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but is it possible that it was an honest mistake by the accounts department?

Not possible. It's not even a mistake. They intentionally wrote people short checks because they knew they didn't have enough money to cover everyone's checks. They blamed it on my former boss, the guy who hired me, who quit last Tuesday. They said that it's because they paid him so much that they couldn't pay us. Which, is, of course, a steaming pile of shit. The management around just doesn't give a fuck. They can't pay us, but they can drive vintage Mercedes. Fucking crooks.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, can you re-send that job info? Send it to my gmail address below.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

(Btw -- Not that I begrudge anyone a vintage Mercedes. Would that I had the means. It's a thing of beauty.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa. Kenan. That's so illegal I can barely sit quietly in class and pretend I'm taking notes. Please get these people together and come see me - I know lawyers that will speak to the group at no cost to you! And might take the case on contingency if he or she thinks it's worthwhile (by which I mean if your rate of pay was high enough that there's a good chunk of money involved). And if not, I can help you file pro se, since you're probably an independent contractor and can't file a IDOL claim.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that this level of illegal bothers the bosses that much. We had to pretend to not be here the other day when a Sherriff showed up at the door to serve someone papers. God knows what kind of illegal shit these guys are into.

And my check wasn't short (in fact, it was over), so I'm not going to be the one to rouse the rabble. I'm just going to quietly get another job and let this business go to hell, which it inevitably will.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and another thing, Jenny -- we're all contract employees. If I'm not mistaken, that pretty much puts us in a position where we have no rights at all.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

This level of illegal would bother him if he's hit with a hefty civil suit. But okay - if you don't want to take any action, that's cool. But if you run into your (former) coworkers, please let them know about the place where I work.

xpost: You have no rights under the Fair Labor Standards Act, but you do have rights under the common law of contracts. Your boss basically violated his contract with the employees but making them work and then not paying him. You do have rights, just not through the department of labor.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I seriously can't wait to join the teacher's union.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I can't wait until you do either! Solidarity forever! The union makes us strong!!!!!!!

Sorry. I'm cool! I'm totally cool now.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Shady Acres, Kenan. At my old job I had to lie and tell people that their furniture was stalled at the factory when in truth the company didn't have the money to pay the factory. I hate lying about things like that.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Pardon my misplaced apostrophe above. I shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher until I can proofread my own writing. THE SHAME.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of... nothing we were talking about...

Tomorrow is my birthday and this sucks for two reasons: 1. I have class until 8:30; and 2. it's a freaking Tuesday night. Because my birthday is sort of randomly placed and very close to exams, thus forclosing much weekend-style celebration, Jeff, Jesse, and I are going to have dinner at 9 PM at Frontera Grill, where I have wanted to eat for like years!

I would be honored and thrilled if anyone here would like to join us, but since we are eating late on a Tuesday night at a kind of pricey restaurant, I would understand that people wouldn't come. However, if you do want to go, send Jesse an email at br0wnst0ne at g-male (0 = o, fyi) and let him know since he's going to call and make a reservation that day.

That sounds like a non-invitation, but it's totally not! I want everybdoy to come! But I just feel really bad that I'm not having a very accessible birthday celebration. I promise that the year after next, I'll have a raging birthday celebration on a convenient night and time that's accessible for everybody!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday 1 day early Jenny!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

HB jenny.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

TOMORROW IS YOUR BIRTHDAY!?!?!?

Well, dang. Expect a present from me that may or may not be edible. I probably won't make it to the dinner, though. :(

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/rampage.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

15 minutes to leftover rigatoni with sundried tomato cream sauce, roasted walnuts, and goat cheese from Buona Terra in Logan Square. Excited! It's a boring day.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Argh! I have to pack tomorrow & impatiently wait for Leaf to arrive! So I won't be able to make it . . . I'm totally bummed about it. Any birthday wishes? Should we celebrate in a larger way the first weekend in december?

by the way, speaking of birthdays (not to tip the spotlight off of jenny for a second) . . . mine is the second weekend in december. i am in charge of restaurant club that friday, but i was thinking of having a brunch on sunday & inviting only the snazziest women i know. i'm thinking of calling it "estrogen town." interesting? yes? no?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, that job listing is awesome. Print production and web work? Yeah, I can do that. Thank you thank you.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, that's my new favorite dish there! I still can't believe I've been going to that place every two months or so for like a year and never tried it until recently. Although, last time I had the butternut squash ravioli, which were the most underwhelming thing I've had on that menu... Oh well, can't all be perfect.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yer welcome, K.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Any birthday wishes? Should we celebrate in a larger way the first weekend in december?

Alas, but no. After Thanksgiving, I disappear until the evening of December 19 at which point I will reappear, drunk as God, and finished with the first semester of my second year of law school. Which means I'll also miss your birthday celebration, Kelsey. :(

November/December girls got it bad...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

The first time we went to Buona Terra I got the gnocchi, which I wasn't terribly impressed by, but I think I just don't "get" gnocchi, because it never seems as tasty as it should be. I'm not sure why I keep ordering it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

xpost No. December boys got it bad. September girls do so much.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I know how it goes, but my birthday is in November, and Kelsey's is in December and, well, I paraphrased, see? I made an joke! Ha! Jokes!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

AN joke! Because November girls don't pronounce the letter "j".

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Chilton is not your plaything!

(No, I understand, Jenny. I was being the snark.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://perthrockcity.existangst.com/archives/wormo1.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Buona Terra and Fronterra are like my two favorite restaurants!!

(insofar as places that I've been "treated" to dinner by parents count as "favorites.")

...I really need to hit that Thurs. prix fixe deal at BT SO bad. It's so close to my house!!!!

(like everything else in Chicago, obv)

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to find a copy of The Bangles covering "September Girls," but couldn't. But I did find this, and it's much better.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I hate everything right now, well, pretty much. I'm swamped with work. Three different coworkers have asked me to please see them when I have a free moment because they have new projects they want to show me, but my desk is totally covered. I'm just... grouchy.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Buona Terra -- name sounds familiar, but I didn't know it was so highly regarded. I'll have to make a trip, I guess. (Hmmm: it was apparently Restaurant Club #181: 9/19/03.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I'd like to make a public announcement. Just because my family has set a $15 a person gift limit this year - plus something you make - (hellooo---, we're going to Fraaancceeee...) does not mean we don't care about each other or Christmas.

Also, I wish I could get out of the office gift exchange, which is $35.

Also, just because I couldn't buy a fancy present for my bf for our anniversary and we didn't go out of town or anything doesn't mean that
a- he doesn't mean that much to me and/or
b- anniversaries aren't important to me.

Also, dinner at Bunoa Terra was delicious (I just had my left-overs for lunch), but I wish waitors wouldn't be rude to us when we don't order appetizers/drinks. At least, that's the excuse I made up for why the waitstaff there seems to hate us. I don't know. Maybe they're like that to everyone?

Thank you. That is all for right this second.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, who is accusing you of not caring about your family or Nick?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

The reason I like it so much is my landlords own it and they feed us free appetizers and desserts and stuff! But really, it's solid Italian food at good prices. Most of their pastas are under $10 and very large servings.

xpost: I think the waitstaff there is kinda cold, too. But, every time I've been in they've been working pretty hard, so who knows? You need to talk to Eilieen, one of the co-owners. She usually is behind the bar. Cool. as. hell.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

J'accuse!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also, ILX seems to be running super-slowwwwww today.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Gawd, I hate Sarah's co-workers. Assuming that's who is making those types of comments. Those co-workers would probably assume that Jeff and I are in a sham marraige of convenience if the dollar value of gifts on specific holidays is the measure of affection.

Jeff and I have never remembered an anniversary until after the fact. Ever. In five years. It's always, "Holy shit, last week was our four year anniversary! Whoops!" Clearly, we hate each other.

And we don't even bother with Christmas gifts to each other.

Oy. Stupid coworkers.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't like Sarah's co-workers, either.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Um, coworkers (to be expected as $15 is even smaller to them), a friend of a friend (though I'm sure she didn't mean to sound condescending), and my sister (who when I emailed her complaining about the friend of a friend said It's ok, Sarah. Not everyone places a lot of importance on anniversaries.)

― Precious Johnson (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO, I'm PMSing.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I'm not feeling Precious.

― Precious Johnson (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

i saw sock monkey flannel pj's at target!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

AND it's blatantly obvious to anyone who has ever been in a room with you and Nick that you two are totally in love and are awesome together. Who needs big dumb expensive presents to celebrate something that's so obvious and wonderful it's almost a material object in and of itself?

Also, $35 for an office gift exchange is really absurd. Do they just like to pretend that you are a rich socialite working your job for kicks or something? Are they so clueless as to think that's a negligble expense for everybody?

xpost - Sarah, your sister's response doesn't sound that bad. She's actually right (see above comment about Jeff and me) - but I guess if she's saying that you don't place a lot of importance on anniversaries because you aren't spending money on them, that's a little lame. Money spent =! importance of the event.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

We're on the same schedule Sarah! As soon as the Chicago thread comes back around to menstruation, you know we're going to round up the day with a rooty-tootin' salute to the ladiez.

Also, your coworkers need a reality check. We have to do a gift exchange, but it's a $5 limit. That's fine with me -- someone's gonna get some cookies and a John Wayne DVD.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

$35 is a HUGE amount for an office gift exchange. i barely spend that on people i care about a lot of times. besides, isn't it better just to get crappy gifts/knick knacks that are tacky & fun? $35 means you have to put thought into it & stuff. that's annoying.

also: this is my pms week as well. maybe that explains my sudden bitterness & stress.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, $35 is insane. I barely know anyone's name at work outside of my Group, and having to blow that much money on a complete stranger would drive me nuts. I hate shopping enough already, and trying to find a gift for an exchange like that would just be one constant source of pain.

Plus, what are you going to get? A gift certificate to Best Buy? Who gives a shit?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Disclaimer - this is not to say that JEFF is not important to me - he's the most importantest thing to me on this, earth, animal, vegetable, or mineral. I just have a hard time keeping track of important dates, as does Jeff.

Actual conversation with my mother-in-law right before our wedding:
MIL: Jenny, now it's your job to remind Jeff of birthdays and anniversaries.
Me: I wouldn't hold my breath, if I were you.

Also, we tend to buy each other things randomly and go out to dinner or do other fun things without consideration of specific dates.

I am totally opposed to office gift exchanges. I'm actually opposed to family holiday gift exchanges, but my family definitely equates gift expenditures with levels of affection so I've not convinced anybody to go along with my plan yet.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

But, Sarah! You could look at the $35 as a CAP. So you could get your coworker a lovely candle holder from the dollar store and it would be A-OK.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really know how people choose their anniversaries, really. D and I were together for four years before we got married so those should count, but our "togetherness" has never really stopped since we met, so is our first date our anniversary?

I'm not big on contrived celebrations anyway. I know we're happy. He knows we're happy. I don't really care what the global committee thinks.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Jeff and I had that problem, too, especially since we were internet friends for more than a year before we met, and then had some long distance unsurety before we decided we were really dating. But since we met face to face for the first time on Friday, October 13, I decided by committee of one that 10/13 would be a good anniversary for us.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

that's so fucking appropriate for you two . . . !

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! Yeah. That's cute.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

11/19/1998 - I woke up in his dorm bed and he asked me if I was his girlfriend
(ha ha, hope I didn't embarass him too much)

I'm going to Target right after work to blow off steam and buy more sock monkey guts.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

1998 seems so long ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah -- I was a mess in 1998.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie and I don't really have an anniversary, but if we did it would be in September sometime. We forgot to do anything specific this year. What boggles my mind is the couples who do big stuff for their SIX-MONTH ANNIVERSARY and stuff like that.

Aargh, not only do I have to go out to California next month for what sounds like some shitty work, I may have to get TWO tuberculosis tests before I do. WTF, am I going on the Oregon trail or some shit?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think couples who celebrate six month anniversaries are either new to long-term relationships or are desparate to convince themselves that their relationship is a big, important deal. Or they just like fancy dinners but feel like they can't justify celebrations without occasions.

I really wanted to get married in October so we could preserve the awesome anniversary date, plus I love October, but June was the only non-class month that both sets of parents could come visit so we were all traditional with the date and shit.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

11/19/1998 - I woke up in his dorm bed and he asked me if I was his girlfriend

That's adorable, because it's a dorm bed and those are so small!

Also, what did you say, Sarah?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

sarah . . . i have a tiny scarf & hat for one of your monkeys!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

'98? I had pimples.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, kelsey! I'm excited!

Jenny, I was totally shocked because I was trying to be crazy for once in my life and ended up with a boyfriend. But then I realized I really liked him anyway, so ok, sure, I'll be your girlfriend. It probably didn't look too good though. He's looking at me while my mouth drops open and I think about it for a long time before saying anything.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

"So are you my girlfriend?"

"Um... who are you?"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to play it off all cool like I do this sort of thing all the time. No biggie.

The truth was I had a steady boyfriend the first three years in college and we'd just broken up (well, two months before that, but it still seemed fresh).

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

HI I AM CHANGING THE SUBJECT

Um. It looks like I probably have a second interview for that weird Evanston job? Is that intriguing enough to divert the discussion and help preserve my internet hardman status?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Haha -- your subject change broke ILX.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. FEEL MY WRATH.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's been fucked up for me all day.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

This tuberculosis thing is getting more and more ridiculous.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

What else TB-related do you have to do?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

Well, apparently you have to go to a certain strip-mall clinic to get the tests, and the two tests can be seven days apart at a minumum. Results are available two to four days after a test. That doesn't leave me enough time to get this done before the trip, and no one bothered to tell me (or a lot of other people) sooner.

I sent a terse e-mail to a dude in charge, and he suggested that if I went to the clinic TODAY I could get the two TB tests and have the results of the second one read when I get to Cali. So instead of going home at the end of the day I drove over, get there a minute before they close, get scolded by the guy behind the counter, then let them draw my blood right over the front counter.

I don't know, it isn't such a big deal but it's a lot of hassle for a business trip that already sounds like it will be the opposite of fun.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

That's a pain in the ass! It really sucks that they didn't tell you what you had to do.

I thought with TB tests they just stuck you with the four little needles and waited to see if your arm swelled up?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's allergies? I don't know. That would be nice, instead of making three or four separate trips.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Chicago! I love you dearly. Also there's this Christmas-music YouSendIt thread on ILM, and it reminded me that I've been waiting since like spring to share something special, something that should be shared with Chicago first. So, umm, attention Jaymc in particular, as I think I've mentioned this in several discussions of Reckless Records personnel:

The Reckless Records: "All I Want for Christmas is You"

Circa 2001, maybe: staff members of the Wicker Park Reckless store record a Christmas single! And it's kind of wonderful, so here's the A-side -- vocals by Chr!s C0nneley and, umm, that one girl who always wore the black headscarves.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Nabisco!

I had a dream about you last night, but what I remember of it is too banal to even record on the ILX Dreams thread -- I was visiting New York and you were showing me around and then you said you had to leave to go record shopping. It occurred to me that you go record shopping quite often and that maybe if I went record shopping more regularly, I'd be better-versed in music.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream involving Jeff & Jenny last night but I forgot everything about it. It might have been the dream where I was at this tropical resort on an island and swimming in a river but I'm not sure.

Hi nabisco.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

morning, chicago! kashi go lean crunch is still great cereal!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

i enjoyed kashi good friends cinnamon raisin blobs this morning!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday Jenny!

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, happy birthday!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I had a Product 19/Special K cocktail this morning.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JENNY, ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE EVER!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny really is pretty fucking cool, ain't she?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Happy Birthday Jenny! you've got mail.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Goddammit I have this chunk of hair on the back of my head that's sticking up and I can't get it to lay down and behave.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

There was an email in the general company mailbox this morning, which went out to all employees, from someone named "Queen Bee." No one knows who this is. It was a list of links to job leads. That's pretty funny. Also, very helpful! Thank you, Queen Bee! I found the perfect job -- HTML production. I wouldn't design anything (which is my weak point, anyway), I would take other people's Photoshop mockups and turn them into HTML and CSS. I could be really impressive at this. And for $25 an hour... well, hey.

xpost to Nick: I now have just enough hair to stick up in the back, but not enough to ever get it to lie down. I have at least another six weeks of this embarrassing fuzziness.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

HAppiest BIrthday, JENNNNYYYYYY!!!!!!

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JENNY!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cleftandcloven.com/carrie.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, just cut it off.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think that might just make things worse. I just tried to wet it down, we'll see if that helps.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Spike the rest up to match?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's totally hip to have errant sticking-up hair -- leave it!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hello. Welcome to my Kitchen.

Here are a few quick tips for making Oatmeal Chocolate Chip cookies.

Firstly, don't follow the recipe to a T! Just because it doesn't mention greasing up the pan, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it! Also, even if the recipe ends with "Bake at 350 degrees for 12 minutes," you still need to remember to preheat the oven.

Lastly, there is a reason you are supposed to use a teaspoon to portion out the dough on the sheets. Using a huge serving spoon to try to make superjumbomumbo cookies isn't the best idea!

Good luck!

― Baking With Sarah (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

You should try parchment paper instead of greasing the pan -- it works like a charm...unless you burn it like I did last night when I preheated the oven to 450 and forgot to take out the piece of paper that was in there! Oops!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning Chicago! Happy Birthday Jenny!

I am in a chili cookoff today!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Do you have a secret recipe or will you share it?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

K., I'm so glad you've Gone Lean - I love that cereal.

There is now a Frontera kiosk in the food court at Marshall Fields, and it serves delicious lunches.

Habby B-day, Jenny.

My friends in Minnesota (one of whom, I found out last night, worked for Libby's publisher when they published the around-a-bear-with-a-stick novel) show great hospitality - I can call them at noon on Monday and go out with them and have a place to crash, too, on Monday night. Flew out 7 a.m. and now I'm back at my Monroe & Wabash desk.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Me? Secret chili recipe?

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

So hey I'm supposed to have dinner with my mom tonight, and I suggested Schwa, not realizing that it's $$$$ (out of five) and reviews seem to indicate small portions, etc. -- so does anyone have any suggestions? She wants to do something in Wicker Park, which is more or less convenient for me, too, coming from work. Personally, I'd like to go someplace I haven't been before, which rules out Feast, Earwax, Handlebar, Hilary's Urban Eatery, Leo's, Piece, Penny's, Pacific Cafe, Rodan, Settimana Cafe, and Tre Via.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe the new place that just opened in the old Mod space? I don't know anything about it but it was packed on Fri night.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Is Soju (the Korean BBQ place) still around? Or did it close?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Have you been here?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

And I always recommend this.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

There's a French place on the same block as Irazu that's supposed to be good but I don't think they really have anything vegetarian; I can't remember if you're vegetarian or not.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I really like Caffe De Luca, on Damen just north of the six-way, more as a place to hang out for a few hours and talk than as a real restaurant outing.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, the place that just opened up in the old Mod space is a tapas joint called Del Toro... Looks interesting, but the last place my mom and I went was tapas, too.

I can't remember if you're vegetarian or not.

Are you joking?

Kenan, I have not been to Corosh, but I can't tell from that Metromix page what kind of food they serve or anything.

I thought about West Town, but I think their veggie options are pretty limited.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

We used to go to Cafe de Lucca for brunch all the time because they had delicious hash browns but then I think they changed the recipe because they weren't as good. :(

xpost, I'm not joking, I don't keep extensive files on every ILXor like some people do (kidding - I just have a shit memory).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

slightly spendy & not in the wicker park area: De Cero. It's delish.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

TOP SECRET CHILI RECIPE. NO SHARING.

Today:

Ingredients:
* 3-some pounds of pork shoulder steaks (with bone in)
* 3-4 yellow onions
* lots of garlic
* Family can of crushed toms (normally use diced, grabbed wrong one)
* Can of blacks beans
* Can of black-eyed peas
* Can of corn
* 4 jalapenos, diced

Chop up the onions and garlic and set aside in a bowl.

De-bone/de-fat the pork shoulder, and cut into .5-1" cubes.

In a skillet, brown the pork with a handful of the onions and garlic until ALMOST cooked on all sides (we don't need to REALLY cook it since it'll be in the pot all night). Turn off the heat and set aside.

In a pot, start the onions and garlic. Throw in the jalapenos. This is also when we should start with the spices (if we were REALLY serious, we would have dry-roasted the spices before adding oil/onions...we also would have roasted the chiles in the oven....we're not that serious, though). Spices: cumin, coriander are your base. Chili powder is for homos. Mustard seed is OK. A dash of cinnamon can be sexy.

Once the onions are soft, throw in the can of tomatoes. Open the can first. These can be really acidic, so we want to cook them as long as possible. If you're pressed for time, throw in a PINCH of baking soda; it's really basic (pH) and will neutralize the acid. Don't use too much, though, or else it'll taste funny. Crushed tomatoes will make your chili pasty, so fill up half a can of water and chuck it in. Diced will cook down further, so use more of them.

Throw in the meat/beans/corn. If you're using garbage like vegetables (carrots are good, celery too), you should have cooked them with the onions, btw.

Go to the store and buy a sixpack. Pour one into the chili and drink the rest.

Chuck in a tablespoon of UNSWEETENED cocoa powder.

Splash in some orange juice (TOP SECRET, PLZ).

Now, because we're using actual meat and not ground, we've got to make sure that the cubes pull apart. This means LOTS OF STIRRING. That's where that six-pack comes in. Loud music helps. Last night I used a mixture of Lightning Bolt, Will Oldham for sing alongs, and a purpose-made mixtape with golden hits from Son Volt, the Detroit Cobras, De La Soul, and the Kinks, among others.

Try to crush the individual chunks of meat against the side of the pot. It'll help.

Go outside and smoke a cigarette. When you come back inside, grind up some salt into this bitch. Black pepper, too.

Open a bottle of wine. Put on the Kronos Quartet.

Keep stirring until 1.20am. Turn off the heat, lid it and go to bed.

Wake up!!! You're late! Double bag the chili in freezer bags, put the bags into a small pot, wrap the pot in saran wrap, put in your bag, and bike to work.

Win.

...

Profit!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and don't forget oregano and a TINY little bit of chipotle sauce. Like, 4 drops of.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've been seduced.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Now THAT is a recipe. I'm copying and pasting and keeping.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's delicious! ...could use more salt, tho.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Seduced by the chili or by the Will Oldham and Kronos Quartet?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

P.S. Nick I've been vegetarian for longer than you have! I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should post this on the Chili thread?

xpost I was seduced by both!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I would have been seduced by the artful recipe writing if were capable of being seduced, which I am totally not. [cough]

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Seduced by sexy cinnamon, by ALL the music, by the whirlwind of it all. The mixing of beer & wine, the cigarettes . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Heaven...I'm in food Heaven...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

And the cocoa? Brilliance.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

. . . even seduced by the pork. That says a lot, I think.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just totally in love with the whole process, down to packing it in yer bike bag. The WHOLE THING.

I've gotta get crackin' on those ear flaps for ya.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah. The bike.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I should remind Nick that I am also a vegetarian.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

As am I.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

(I recently started eating fish, though . . . so maybe I'm not in the club anymore)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, don't confuse him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Pork is......seductive. It's true.

xpost: EAR FLAPS!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, soon you'll sup on pork chili like it's no big thing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

yet . . . somehow . . . I won't.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

evan, what material do you want your flaps made of?

I have soft, black yarn that is a blend of alpaca & silk & then I have slightly less soft (but not itchy) turquoise wool.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Fish is so awesomely healthy. Good for you, kels. Just avoid that atlantic salmon.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, CHILI.

I copied down that recipe too, although I'm going to wait until there is snow on the ground to make it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

fish isn't also subject to the same farming practices as other animals.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I like a bottle of beer included in my chili.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

which means that if i apply that logic to wild caught animals, i should be okay with eating venison. but i'm not.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I also liked "chili powder is for homos."

xpost Oooooh venison makes perfect chili. We have some in our freezer, I should use that shit up.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I've never not ate meat, but it does make me feel better that my local deli is all about organic meats and ethical livestock treatment and shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone seen Madagascar? Watch out! SPOILERS ALERT!

Some animals from the Central Park zoo end up in the wild. They are all bestest friends, but then the lion character's instinct starts kicking in and he wants to eat everyone. So he isolates himself and starts starving to death. I was wondering how they were going to resolve this, because I doubted he would become a vegetarian. In the end, the penguins make him sushi and he loves it and everyone's happy because they don't have to fear for their lives. Nick and I were like, But what about the poor fishies! Then I realized that there hadn't been any fish characters in the movie, only talking lemurs, zebras, lions, and every other creature.

For a while I thought about eating fish for the health of my one day baby, but then I read it was actually dangerous to eat fish while pregnant anyway, so screw that.

― McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm convinced that I probably should've been eating fish since I went veggie.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I still need to start eating fish. Kels, can you go with me sometime? I think I need a fish buddy.

Also: There should be a setting on ILX where you can prevent yourself from reading a particular thread. Someone tear me away from the how-long-have-you-gone thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed Madagascar.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think I need a fish buddy.
John, we can get some scrod when I'm back in Chicago

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Me too! This morning I did the king lemur dance as I sang You got to Move it Move it You got to Move it Move it. Nick can verify.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think if I ate seafood, I would probably just eat fried shrimp all the time, which probably isn't that good for you.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Mark in teasing-me-about-something-that-happened-13-years-ago shocker.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I guess my fake tag which said [/hurtful in-joke] didn't show up in my post.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Someday I'm going to come down and take all of you on a field trip to Lawerence's.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like fried fish because you can't see the fish underneath the fried. I like sushi because it's clean and fresh and right out there, where I can inspect it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

But isn't sushi raw? That doesn't appeal to me.

I'm not really hatin' on fish eaters though. I think I ate one too many cans of sardines when I was little.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'll eat all kinds of fish. Raw, fried, broiled, grilled. I'm down with the fishes.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really understand the appeal of sushi. I've said, oh, I'm not a huge sushi fan, and people say, well you're vegetarian. Great sushi is made with the real stuff. But yeah, the idea of eating cold, often raw fish doesn't really do much for me. But since Mark is on this thread, and he gave up being vegetarian to eat sushi, maybe he can enlighten me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

What about non-breaded fried or grilled fish?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

xp i obv don't know the injoke but does anyone say scrod around here? i thought it was a boston thing...

also, sardines are vile.

oh, stay off of that 'how long...' thread, it's nothing but trouble.

i keep reading the 'rape, amnesty, etc' thread too, and keep starting to respond-- grrrrr tap tap tap tap tap oh wtf *back button* (which is a common response to threads for me, with or without the grr, depending), but then there's some post by nabisco that's otm anyway.

happy bday jenny!!!!

sarah, i broke out the knitting stuff the other day and discovered that i'm not so dextrous with that stuff these days, but i have a bunch of little bits of knitted stuff that could help.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

That was to Amanda, btw.

I'm actually not a big fan of sashimi, where you get large pieces of cold, raw fish. It's just not as flavorful as cooked fish to me, and expensive to boot.

Sushi rolls are a completely different story for me. The fish flavor combines with the rice and the wasabi and the crunchy stuff and whatever else is included into balanced, perfect little bites.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

my favorite sushi is actually cooked, the eel stuff is so so great. but all sushi is great. my sister and i used to go out for sushi and dare each other to get the especially adventurous stuff. i don't remember disliking any of it, strange and slimy as some selections seemed like they might be.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I love fish but I hate sardines. I love sushi, but I have to be in the right mood for sashimi. Otherwise it's like oh boy I have to suck this cold piece of tuna belly fat down my gullet.
I'm not a big fan of the sushi rolled in caviar though. Or caviar in general.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with what jordan said about the fish being combined with the other flavors. I also like that it's a small amount of food but filling.

Caviar I've never warmed to, even one time at the French Laundry.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

megaxpost: I like soft and black, kelsey. Although, turqoise might look cooler....

I love sushi.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

i obv don't know the injoke but does anyone say scrod around here? i thought it was a boston thing...

What else would you call it?

The only joke is that when I was 13 or so, I ordered scrod at a couple of different restaurants, because I happened to like it: once at Bennigan's and then again at the Hot Fish Shoppe in Winona, Minnesota. For some reason, my dad and brother found this inexplicably hilarious. I don't really get it, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny for the same reason that smelt is funny: too many hard consonants and only one vowel.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://tommcmahon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/hotfish2.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I had a bit of "challenging" food last night that I couldn't handle -- fresh raw milk brie. It stinks to high heaven, so badly that I couldn't even sit near it for too long, and the taste is thick and relentless and tangy in a way that just feels wrong. All cheese starts with "spoiled" milk, but I have never encountered a cheese that smelled and tasted so much like something that had gone bad. If I didn't know what it was (and how much it cost) I would have thrown it out, perhaps while making a face and saying "Ew!"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think that should be the cover for your no-vocals electronic side project, John.

Scrod is close enough to scrotum that brothers and fathers will laugh.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, that reminds me of the smoked fish shack I stopped at on the way back from a gig in the boundary waters. I don't like smoked fish or seafood either, too cold and fishy. Not even lox (scandalous!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I like grilled, broiled, baked, raw...however. The thing about raw fish, particularly mild fish, is that it simply doesn't really taste like fish. It has a peculiar taste and texture all it's own. It's smooth, cool and consummately tasty. Salmon is the best.

I don't like anything fatty, slimy or obscured by breading, usually.

I think scrod is funny. Um, yes, I'll have the scrod. Sorry. It's funny. It sounds like scrotum. I mean, schroeder.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

(Jordan-I will be in Madison tomorrow afternoon-Sunday)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

from wikipedia:

Scrod (or schrod) is a young (2-lb or less) cod or haddock, split and deboned. A staple in many Boston area seafood restaurants, but rarely heard outside New England. Scrod is not actually a type of fish, but rather a generic term believed to mean "catch of the day," referring to any white, edible fish.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, white, edible fish.

(Is that your real e-mail, Jocelyn?)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've never had the ethical quandary of whether to eat seafood or not, because I just don't like seafood. The exceptions:
1. Fried fish, because as noted above, it tastes like fried stuff, not seafood.
2. An excellent lobster I had in Goa, India.
3. The time I was on a cross-country skiing trip with my dad in Austria and we had been skiing all day and I was STARVING and we went back to our little bread-and-breakfast place and the only dinner was WHOLE FISH with the bones and eyes and all, and I was so hungry that I ate it, and I'll tell you, it was pretty damn tasty. I also remember this is where I was when the first Gulf War ended because I remember hearing about it on my dad's radio.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if a Schroeder is a fisherman? Is that possible? Like Sawyer = one who saws = lumberjack. Chandler = candlemaker, etc.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, that's interesting, Julia. Well, it was def. on the menu at a chain theme restaurant and an old-timey Midwestern fish joint in the early 90s.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I would totally stay at a bread & breakfast.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, what a weird mistake. Obv. not a typo, because it's two letters off and is a real word.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's because I'm currently eating a sandwich - made with BREAD!?!?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

We don't have anywhere for you to sleep, but you can hang out as long as you want and there's plenty of bread to eat. Would you like some bread with breakfast as well?

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I just e-mailed the 19-year-old.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I bet it would be really nice to fall asleep on a fresh-out-of-the-oven, cleft-in-half, giant loaf of sourdough bread.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

YOU GO JAYMC

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Remember not to ask her to a bar.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

J-dawg! Canasta will have to do a show at Uncommon Ground, so that she can come and see you play.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hot young tail is the new sourdough bread?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

"Oh, J., I was into Tortise until, like, seventh grade."

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I just referred to your friend as tail. I didn't mean it. I was 19 once and I would have been thrilled if a cool dude like you emailed me. If I had known what email was, that is.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Because that's how OLD I AM!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc is going to go on COFFEE DATES.

I miss coffee dates.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

If you had received a telegram from a cool dude like J....

I'm all for coffee dates, even with the overage.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Why is it I was immediately reminded of the Matthew McConaughey "high school girls stay the same age" line from Dazed and Confused when I read that jaymc emailed the 19 year old? The mental image of hearing you say that line is so fucking funny.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie and I skipped out of a company meeting yesterday and hung out at a coffee shop, but I don't think anything that goes on at 8:30 am can be considered a "date".

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, coffee dates.
(my real e-mail is jocelynk@rlan@hotmaildotcom) I am switching to gmail this weekend because hotmail can bite me.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's very difficult for me to avoid making crude remarks about this whole situation. The phrase "If there's grass on the field..." keeps popping into my head.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think as a 19-year-old I would have loved to have dated a worldly, sophisticated 26 (I think you're 26?) year old (musician).

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think anything that goes on at 8:30 am can be considered a "date".

Not the beginning of one, anyway.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Do we even know for sure that's she's 19? I thought that was based off of the INTERNET, and as we know, the INTERNET is a liar.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Good point. The internet says that I'm 59.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

The internet says I'm 12 and live in Beverly Hills.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, I didn't ask her out just yet. I sent her a nice note saying I enjoyed talking to her and that she should let me know about any art shows she has coming up. I figure if she writes back, then I will go in for the proverbial kill.

Coffee dates would be more fun if I drank coffee. Tea is nice, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, my internet site has gotten fancier since the last time I checked:

www.jordancohen.com/home.asp

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'll explain my sushi love after lunch.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

That Jordan Cohen scares me.

Jordan graduated from Cal State Northridge in 1990 with a Communications Degree with an emphasis in Sales and Marketing, and headed straight into Real Estate by joining Todd C. Olson Estate Brokerage because of the company’s fine reputation and “Family Atmosphere.”

"Family Atmosphere"??

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

The intarnets says I live in Chicago, but that I'm 42.

Also:
dan1el mart1n is a masterpiece of symbolically charged realism - thanks, Googlism!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - My prediction is that she will ask you out.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

It means he was fucking Mr. Olson's daughter.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Look at the old me and the new me!
http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/pics/s/sawyer-amanda-S1041633805-1fc.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Jesus, why is it I have never looked up www.johnmcunningham.com before? It's some Sherlock Holmes buff who lives in Silver Springs, Maryland, and has a son who's a shirtless drummer in a band.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Haha!

All of these are filthy lies:

jordan cohen is president of one of those organizations
jordan cohen is one of the best rock drummers/percussionists to be found
jordan cohen is the director of business relations at dragon systems
jordan cohen is happily married to becky
jordan cohen is cto for voice signal technologies
jordan cohen is president of the association of american medical colleges

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

kenan is particularly adept in getting his readers to accept aspects of african american culture

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

kenan is constantly getting into trouble with his schemes
kenan is an interesting teacher
kenan is a disappointment
kenan is a renaisance
kenan is always working on a new mix
kenan is now general manager of north america

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. There is no kenanhebert.com. I should register it, I guess.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

...apparently I organize beauty pageants.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of beauty pagents, I'm going to try to cut my own bangs tonight. I don't think I've ever done that before.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

-Eric is a deceptively casual man who enjoys a wisecrack
-Eric is part visionary and part Jazz madman
-ERIC is a closed database
-Eric is slated to join Beatles manager Brian Epstein’s roster
-That Eric Is not me.
-"Eric is awesome," Fresno State softball head coach Margie Wright said.
-Eric is all over the court, playing all forehand, Cheng blocks him everywhere, but Eric runs them all down.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

-Eazy is hot off the streetz of Compton and got a CD packed with more plays on the name 'Eazy' than you could shake a stick at!
-Eazy is the one and only female d&b dj in Estonia

Aftermathmusic.com:
So Eazy is on of your biggest influences, right?

The Game:
Oh..yea..yea eazy is the biggest inspiration for the game man, I group up when I was younger I knew eazy my dad used to fuck with eazy, he took me around to videos and eazy would always tell me, I used to tell eazy i wanna be like you when i grow up, eazy would say nah you dont wanna be like me you wanna be the president, you wanna be a teacher, you wanna be the doctor, and I used to say nah I wanna be a rapper know what I'm sayin.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks up there! I'm 33 today.

I love sushi.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

One of the guys in the office just asked me if I'd like to play drums with a jazz combo he's putting together. I'm flattered, but I really don't think I'm good enough! They're talking about going right into doing club gigs with no rehearsal! The horror!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah Jenny I forgot to wish you a happy bday, too!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

sarahjohnson dot com just redirects you to a Southern Living site.
NOT THAT MY NAME IS SARAH JOHNSON! OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

How's the b-day going so far, jenny?

Anyone want to literati me?

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I miss my regular jazz gigs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'd loooove to sit and mess around with some knowledgeable dudes and build up some chops, but plunking myself down in a little bar or somewhere and having at it terrifies me for some reason.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Can't Literati yet S., got some work to do.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, don't do it unless you feel comfortable and know your tunes.

Note: I did not follow this advice and played lots of bad jazz gigs in college when I had no business doing it, so that's another option.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I was just a bitch to a telemarketer. BOO YA! I tried the nice route first, but he wasn't having it. Take that! ANd tHAT!

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

My birthday is okay. I forgot about it when I woke up, and Jeff had to remind me. Then I went grocery shopping for the Thanksgiving feast and bought myself some Panda black liccorice at Whole Foods as a birthday treat. I put a hat on when my hair was wet and now I have terrible birthday hair. I listened to Ryan Adams 29 on the train coming to class and that made me feel kind of weird. But I have a pumpkin spice latte so that's great. I wish I didn't have class tonight, but what can ya do.

There is someone with Jeff's name who is in prison and has a website looking for pen pals.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

As I've noted before, there's someone with the same name as me who was a high school and college wrestler. So if you google me, you get a bunch of wrestling stats.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yay for bitching out telemarketers! I like to stop them and say, "What are you wearing?" They will usually hang up.

(I used to be a telemarketer, too - accidental death and dismemberment insurance, security systems, and burial plots - and even I don't have any sympathy for them.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

From the google image search for my name:

http://www.theguillotine.com/college/0405/news/0305d3ncaa/05d3_ajf_0444_0799.JPG

Only one of the google image searches is actually for me, and it's the cover of the first Walkmen album.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

That picture's hot. Are you the pale guy or the tanning booth guy?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm famous.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, an article I wrote is the first google search result for my full first name and last name. A link for a hypnotherapist instructor is the second! I wish I were a hypnotherapy instructor!

None of the GIS results are me, but some of them are funny!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, you are a delight! You had to sell dismemberment insurance and burial plots over the phone? I want to spend an entire weekend in a cabin with you while you tell me stories. Then we'll roast marshmallows.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, that photo belongs in the inside gatefold of the 'Raw Yang' vinyl LP - or maybe the left half would be the front cover and the right half would be the back cover.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

(my verb tenses are so screwy today)

(I went to high school with a 6' Sarah Johnson.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

GIS result #1 for my full name:

ihttp://lachlan.bluehaze.com.au/aaf/peter_dodds_mccormick.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd forgotten about this picture.

http://www.geocities.com/im_dyin/me-acid-bw.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

All but about two links are me when I do a google search. The one image search is me, too. Crazy. Also, search my name helped me find a web site my mom made for a class she took!! She uses all these photos she took during my internship & talks about TAL & public radio. the only thing is that she writes that they made it to the studio just in time to catch d4vid s3daris hosting TAL live. totally not true. my mother, much like myself, can sometimes get her facts slightly skewed.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

i can't write today. please excuse me.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

P.S. I have an assignment for you all on my blog.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

(I just saw your assignment and am trying to choose one. The Ditty Bops was technically released in '04...)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

i can think of a couple, but i don't think you would like any of them....

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

...where is BLOG?

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

EITHER is for two
ANY is for more than two

and i am stupid and hasty.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Who knows, A., I might surprise you. If you give me ONE and ONE ALONE, I promise I will listen to it.

E: http://jaymc.blogspot.com

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I'll give you one.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

john, what if your name is kelsey & you discover things late?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, is Privata still open? (The Italian/Mexican mixup place on I think Chicago?) I feel like it'd be a good meeting-your-mom place.

n!tsuh is asking part that question again though in his britpop thread
n!tsuh is right to focus on socialism
n!tsuh is pissy today

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Privata is still open. We ate there once, it was interesting.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'll have to give the assignment some thought. Did you ever listen to the entire new Smog album, or just bits & pieces?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, do you want us to post our suggestion(s) here?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, there were two other things I really wanted to recommend you but one was technically released in late '04 and one won't officially be out until early '06.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I still would like to hear what Smog sounds like. Also, someone sent me a Feist album, will I like it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Whoopsies, didn't see your list of stuff you'd already heard. OK, I'll have to think.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

...man, you listened to a lot of records this year.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

okay, john. since you have most albums on your list that i might have said, i'm going to tell you to listen to Ashlee Simpson's record. I've heard it's okay. Go forth & enjoy the young'uns.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately, I have not purchased a lot of new music this year, I don't think.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh, Privata is a good idea. The only time I tried to go there is when it was in the middle of relocating from Chicago to a couple blocks north on Damen -- so in other words I never actually experienced it. But I've heard good things.

Kels, I was hoping you would say TP.3 Reloaded.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I did, didn't I?

I must've tried to post it but other people posted ahead of me.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Two that you don't have:

Summer in the Southeast: Bonny Prince. He's preaching to the choir with me, but I still think it's pretty great. You know his last one was Bonny Prince Billy Plays Palace's Greatest Hits? It's like, but in reverse. Palace covers BPB. Anyway. I like it.

Time Attack: New Black. The one and only local band I've listened to (present company excepted). I like it! Probably won't top anyone's lists, but I think they're pretty good.

Neither one melted my face. All the face-melting stuff I heard this year is (a) old or (b) you've already heard.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Dan: you can post here or in my comments box, doesn't matter.

Jordan: Feist's Let It Die will almost definitely be in my top 20! You will like it if you like sexy female vocals and eclectic instrumentation, from Sade soundalikes to ol' dusty hollers to Bee Gees covers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I made my recommendation - "Palm Reader" by ZZZZ.

New Black is great live but I find their albums pretty repetitive. Their new one is EXACTLY the same as the old one (even down to the inclusion of a longer song with a drum machine beat), and they use the same melodies on everything.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

(and then i neglected to make another attempt)

xpost.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Have you heard the Damien Marley record?

xpost, awesome, I will give Let it Die a listen as soon as I transfer it to my iPod.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of reusing melodies, there's a short bit on one of the Canasta songs that I swear is repeated EXACTLY from a Sparks song, but I'll have to do research and report back on which songs. I'm sure it was unintentional.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I posted in the box, but I'll put it here too: The Constantines' "Tournament of Hearts" (Sub Pop) -- I've liked this band ever since I first saw them, and this only solidifies my love. Pfork didn't like it, but sometimes that's a good thing.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure as well, since I would be surprised if ANYONE in the band had ever heard Sparks. Maybe Matt, if someone like Demetri (hi!) or Morgan had played it for him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm inclined to make you a mix of 2005 stuff I like, maybe with two songs from each CD, and see if you dig any of them enough to want to hear the rest.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

JC: Have not heard Damian Marley but am interested. The ILM thread made me appreciate "Welcome to Jamrock" though I had originally written it off.

EZ: That would be cool. Speaking of which, I'm gonna make a CD-R of my favorite songs of the year, like I did last year, and anyone on this thread is welcome to a copy. It'll prob. be around 100 tracks -- or at least the current draft is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW, "Jamrock" is my second-least favorite song on the album.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Intrigued.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

OUT IN THE STREETS THEY CALL IT MUR-DAH

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'd love a copy. Please! We can trade something if ya want. Demetri lurks on here? Hi Demetri!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know if he lurks on this thread but he lurks on ILX in general and sometimes posts under pseudonyms.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

I've always hoped that the sheer mass of this thread deterred lurkers.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I assumed (hoped?) so as well.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Although I bet everyone is DYING to know what we had for lunch today!!

Me: black bean soup, tortillas and cheese and a pear.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I just checked my messages at home and I got a call about a DIFFERENT job that I applied for, to set up an interview. It could suck though, the title is EDITORIAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, so I'm curious about how much of the work is EDITORIAL and how much is ADMINISTRATIVE. Because technically I'm already an EDITORIAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, but the first part is left off my job title.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing that the EDITORIAL is referencing whose ADMINISTRATIVE work you will be ASSISTING with. But I'm a pessimist a lot of the time.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, at my last job there was an EDITORIAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT that did basically what Dan said: he was an admin assistant in the editorial department.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm oh yeah. I went back and found the job description and it sounds like you guys may be wrong, but I see what you mean.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to john up there

Nine Horses - Snow Borne Sorrow
Electrelane - Axxes
Tom Vek - We Have Sound
Ryan Adams - Any of the three he's release this year
Black Dice - Broken Ear Record
Wilderness - Wilderness
Antony and the Johnsons - I am Bird Now
Erstlive 5 - Keith Rowe/Sachiko M/Toshimaru Nakamura/Otomo Yoshihide
Four Gentlemen of the Guitar (Keith Rowe/Oren Ambarchi/Christian Fennesz/Toshimaru Nakamura)- Cloud

The last two are like 7 hours of music, but worth every second!

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I really think you'd like the Tom Vek.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think Tom Vek is in the Good Dr. Bill's top 5...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

My first two years in the finance biz were as an editorial admin asst (assisting the department, but also editing stock research), which gave me the industry experience to be a full-time financial editor.

Same way that marketing assistant positions are usually a good entry-level job into that field.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

who releases three albums in one year?!?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

That's a good list, Jeff!

Point me to this Gentlemen of the Guitars, plz.

xpost Ryan Adams. Duh.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

seduce me & then insult me.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I take it all back!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, so I am going to try to listen to these:

giboyeux: Bonnie 'Prince' Billy
Jeff: Tom Vek
S1ocki: Fannypack
Dan: Constantines
Amanda: Josephine Foster
Ian Mathers: Eluvium
Nick: ZZZZ
Kelsey: R. Kelly

I am also going to decide that Jordan's rec. is Damian Marley, because now I am suddenly interested in that record more than the others he suggested.

YSIs or burned CDs are welcome, of course. I will happily trade you anything of mine (the entire collection is on the blog, too).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Look, kelsey, We need to talk....

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I hope for your sake we're wrong about the job.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Can I YSI an entire album or do I have to do it song-by-song?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh and I mean, I also kind of want to hear Antony and the Johnsons, Fiery Furnaces, the new Diplo mix, M.A.N.D.Y., Lady Sovereign (even though I've heard half of it, anyway), Kate Bush, etc. Is that OutKast album still coming out in three weeks?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

You can YSI an entire album as a zip file, Amanda. If you know how to zip.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't even notice when I got my hair cut!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

MANDY? What's that?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

I can burn you a copy of the ZZZZ. You still owe me a Steely Dan comp, I thought your cd burner was busted!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think your suspicions about the job are justified. I'm being optimistic at this point (the administrative stuff was thrown in at the end of the job description after a bunch of more interesting duties, it's with a well-known organization, and the benefits looked decent), but yeah, it could easily turn out to be shit. Won't know until this evening at the earliest (since I can't call from work).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh the CD burner is fixed now! I cleaned it!

I'm not sure who or what M.A.N.D.Y. is, but it's the name behind a DJ mix called Body Language. It's in deej's top 10. Lotsa love from microhouse fans on ILM.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think my favorite album of the year (Gogol Bordello's Gypsy Punks/Underdog World Strike) is quite your thing john, but you could have a listen anyway!
But I did want to thank you for suggesting one of my other favorites, which would be Illinois .

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

What I mean is that your intriguing reviews contributed to my purchasing that album.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is the Diplo you're referencing that Hollertronix live mix thing? Because I have that and can burn it for you too, but I don't think it's that interesting. But you're probably talking about something newer.

Jocelyn, you might like the ZZZZ album! It sounds like how I imagine Gogol Bordello sounds.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also: LIGHTNING BOLT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I skipped Lightning Bolt because 1. it's not as good as Wonderful Rainbow and 2. I know John will hate it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

True.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Amanda, I think it's interesting that you think I would hate Josephine Foster, considering I like Joanna Newsom, Leslie Feist, Emiliana Torrini, Cat Power, etc. Unless she's nothing like any of them...?

Nick, the Diplo thing is Fabric 24. I think it just came out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

...more about this Diplo thing, plz.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, you guys have totally lost me.

I didn't know you liked all that other stuff. She's way more soprano than a lot of those singers. I thought you might find her shrill. I hope not! She's got a really arresting voice, but it's nothing like the languid sounds of Cat Power.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Does ZZZZ only have one album, Palm Reader ?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

And also the other stuff I thought you might hate I didn't mention.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you might find her shrill.

Well, he likes Joanna Newsom...

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Good point. In terms of tone, though, I find JN to be more of the playful, goofy child and JF to be the knowing, serene mother.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

...I'll have to look into this Josephine Foster.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I also want to suggest No Earthly Man, by Alasdair Roberts.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

The songs are folk ballads though, so I don't know if this qualifies as "new" even though it was released in '05.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Jocelyn. They are still a new band, but I think they're breaking up because the main dude is moving to Peru to work.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

A, it's a contemporary recording, though, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes, indeed. And it's incredibly good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

At least I think so, but I love traditional ballads and this has The Cruel Mother, Lord Ronald/Randall and other really good ones. I forgot it was released this year -- March, I think.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

ugh. i have a meeting. all i want to do is talk about ballads.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't listen to enough of it, but my curiosity is often piqued at artists working in pre-rock styles.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Like jazz?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. I guess I'm thinking of something that's more obviously anachronistic, like Tin Pan Alley specifically.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

So much new music I like is in pre-rock styles - all those nutty Californians, the Brion disciples and the rest.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't really get into the M.A.N.D.Y. album. Need more listens. Is the Lady Sovereign the expect full length or that album of remixes? If the later, it sucks. I like the Furnances album.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Which Brion disciples are you referring to, E.?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

The only Lady Sov thing that's out now, Jeff, is the Vertically Challenged EP: a couple new tracks, a couple old tracks, a couple remixes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

I thinking of L.A.-ers The Ditty Bops (produced with Mitchell Froom), Lavender Diamond, Jesca Hoop, Eleni Mandell, Tom Brusseau, Mia Doi Todd. I don't know that they're Brion disciples, but their music shows a lot of non-rock influences in both insturmentation and styles, and I would guess (as someone 2000 miles away from the scene) that Brion's Friday nights at Largo would have some influence on this.

And those artists are doing non-rock music that's kind of a more polished, less primitive, more orchestrally inspired than some of what's coming out of San Francisco (Newsom, Jolie Holland, Vetiver, Petracovich) - but the LA and SF scenes, as far as non-rock music goes, seem to be sisters - one a flapper, one boho.

It's so much easier for me to pick favorite songs of 2005 than favorite CDs. Mia Doi Todd's "What If We Do?" is a perfect song that I can listen to a bunch of times in a row, but I don't feel that way about the entire CD. I could list 10 or 20 perfect songs from this year ("Playmate" off of EF's CD being one; Lavender Diamond's "You Broke My Heart"; "Your Little Hoodrat Friend"), but unified CDs...?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

That's been absolutely true for me, too, Eric.

Interesting that you key in on "Playmate" as the highlight from It's a Game. The whole thing is quite good, but that one didn't leap out at me as immediately as the title track or "Emergency" or (lately) "Lucky Charm" (which I like for its dreamy 50s feel).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think 'Playmate' is just so clear, articulate, honest and sad, but also imagines a way out of the present - and it's the piano part in the arrangement that really makes this specific arrangement match the song so well. I mean, the song's conjuring someone - it's connecting with someone.

(Oh, and here's the thing about the California acts above - those folks I listed above are making pop music! That's the thing I love, kind of like Fiona A.'s record - that someone thinks of this stuff as pop music, not as some little niche.)

Another song I've been listening to a million times in the past few months is Sarah Slean's 'Lucky Me' - it's so heavily dramatic and so heavily produced that it's kind of a guilty pleasure for me (because this really shouldn't work for me the way it does!) - there's a streaming version at her website, www.sarahslean.com

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, thanks for reminding me about the Fiona Apple record!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

I still need to make my hybrid version of the Fiona record. That might even make my year end list.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard any of it except for the title track.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

(Which is the same on both versions, IIRC.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

ugh i hate job byebye see you tomorrow

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

The Brion version has ridiculous arrangements, but the orchestral sound palette and drumlessness gets monotonous.

The Elizondo version has hipper production (incl. lots of old Brion tricks like mellotrons and clanky percussion), but the lack of Brion's countermelodies hurts and the incessant triple-meter (made more obvious with a standard rhythm section) gets monotonous.

However, I think selectively combining the two would make a killer fucking pop album!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Try some Jaga Jazzist

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ew.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

your no fun. i read your posts on the jaga thread! Ok try some PLANTS AND ANIMALS instead.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, chilly willies. Actually, it's not that cold today, but the high is supposed to be 26 tomorrow (and I'll be in another state! BOO YA!).

Who else has to be at work today? Huh huh huh?

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

i have to be here today and friday.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, S., I totally forgot until you asked - yes, I'm at work, but the part I forgot is that we close a little early!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh that would be sweet. I don't remember if we do that or not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

You're in early today, young man, aren't you?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

We close at 4:00 today. One extra hour.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Me? No. I'm sitting in my pajamas eating a bowl of cereal.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I get off at 3 today! 3 hour early!

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I hate people who are in their pajamas eating cereal while I'm at work. Hate.

I bought my first pair of flannel pajamas the other day! I was so excited! I'm so cute in them!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Men in pajamas are too much cute for me. I can't stand it.

I'm here until the normal time today AND I got dumped on with a ton more work. Today! Thanks!

On the upside, we went to see E. B@chmann last night and he played a lot of new songs and they were good. That was pretty fun.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Really, the best part of it is that I was up until 1, took a shower and then slept until 7! That's right, 7! So I feel totally rested even though we went out last night. Overall, not that bad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Seven? That's crazy!

Actually, the earliest I get up is seven, and that's if I want to be 45 minutes early for work. Your north side people don't even know how nice it is to live two train stops from the loop.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and how about waking up to snow in the trees? It didn't even last until I left the house, but it was so pretty to open my eyes to that first thing. And it's not that cold today! It's the perfect winter day. Snow + not that cold.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, sorry Chris, I liked that one JJ ep and then had a mini-backlash against them.

I'm here all day today (except for the fun of leaving 15 min early to find out if I have tuberculosis) and on Friday.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. It really is a nice day. I wore my new coat and felt like a sylvan lady-gnome.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Snow! I'm in my pajamas, but I'm not eating cereal. But I'll be drinking coffee and eating something soon, just probably not cereal.

Today is going to be an awesome day because I'm going to do some bakin' and some studyin' and some laundry and some holiday decoratin' and I don't have class today so it's just me in the warm apt. with the cats, doing fun domestic and academic chores until Jeff gets home early and I can jump all over him.

Boys in PJs are super cute. Especially old man PJs, although Jeff is totally hot in his old man PJ bottoms and white undershirt in a sort of James Dean on his day off kind of way.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I *heart* Tom Vek and you will to if you think a cross between ? and the Mysterians and Soul Coughing sounds intriguing.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I am wearing, from closest to skin outward: blue t-shirt, orange medium-thick sweatshirt, enormous fuck-off wool sweater made in Scotland and oddly water resistant, insulated hoodie, light jacket (for show, I guess). And on the bottom, I'm wearing long silk underwear. Truth be told, I overdressed. I'll think of it as a dress rehearsal for when it gets really truly cold.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's a perfect winter day here as well. I actually enjoyed brushing the fluffy (not icy) snow off my car this morning.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

actually the more i listened to JJ the more boring it became...basically when it comes on the Ipod now, i skip it. so yeah, i lied.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I like my 30 minute train ride, it's one of my few refuges during the day. I get a lot of reading done.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

I just started having a 40-minute commute when I moved a few weeks ago(instead of a 10-minute one), and I'm enjoying the reading time too (getting through Tim O'Brien's 'July, July' right now).

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, I think I'm going to love that Feist album. It's sexy and spare.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

the video for "Mushaboom" is neat.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

You know, she doesn't sound totally unlike Norah Jones.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

i hope you guys don't mind me occassionally posting on this thread...im not from chicago...but i did see them live three nights in a row in the early 80's with my dad.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's sexy and spare.

Yeah, but in this case I think spare = thin. This record got old really fast for me. There's just not much to it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh: Feist is just hipster Norah Jones, True or False

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

i don't mind, i don't mind at all. it's important to me that i don't see you laughing at me. but i'm smart enough to know that i have to let you gooooooooo

what the hell song is that from? some horrible 80s band...Bourgeois Tagg?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

i like that you're on this thread, chris. stick around!

gmorning all.

pizza for breakfast makes everything okay. kind of.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

but i did see them live three nights in a row in the early 80's with my dad.

Awesome. That's a shitload of Chicago!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is anything fun happening tonight? I need to do something MASCULINE tonight, something that Sarah wouldn't want to do, because I will be on my own for the next few days. I want to go see a BRUTAL NOIZE BAND.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see a brutal noize band too.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! Amanda! Bourgeois Tagg! The song was called "I Don't Mind at All" and I had the cassette tape.

Note: Bourgeois Tagg is NOT a brutal noize band.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

It's getting so you'd never know that things are never like they should be, but I don't mind at all.

Holy shit, I loved that song. There was one other song on the tape that I kind of like that was something like "while we're waiting for the worm to turn, while we're waiting for everybody else to come around to our way of thinking, I was thinking you would make love to me!"

They were kind of like XTC but without all the talent and the wit.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad someone else remembers that song -- it's stuck in my head sort of a lot. Speaking of XTC, guess how many copies of Oranges and Lemons I bought on cassette before I finally bought the CD.

The answer after this commercial break.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

I also saw three nights in a row:

Moody Blues
ZZ TOP

And every night when ZZ TOP came on stage my father asked me the same question..."when are the broads with the legs coming out?"...I was 10 or 11 at the time and i got embarassed.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Now that I think about it, it might be fun to hole up at the practice space with the laptop and a six-pack and record a bunch of weird music.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha. Broads. That's funny.

The answer is three. Three cassette copies of that album.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Did you finish Resident Evil yet? You could do that (while drinking whiskey if you need to butch it up some more).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

So... did the broads with the legs come out? ZZ Top can thank those broads and the rise of videos with getting a song on the pop charts so I would think they'd bring them out every chance they got.

Amanda... 3? Oranges and Lemons was a perennial cut out bin favorite during my record store years. Black Sea and Skylarking were my favorites. I want to download some XTC now. And maybe that Bourglaksdjfalwahhh Tagg song...

xpost! I guessed right! I WIN!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

nope, they never came out..but they did have a giant sphinx that shot lazers out of its eyes onto a screen that produced the ZZ mobile. My father also choked on an ice cube during "Sharp Dressed Man". No one could here him choking and he turned purple until the cube melted. I should have asked the sphinx to point its laser eyes at his throat.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny - Yeah -- and I kept buying it! And it kept breaking! So I finally gave up and when I bought the CD it was like $3 new. Ha. I like Skylarking lots too. I don't have Black Sea, should I get it?

How was the b-day dinner?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

also, does anyone remember the 1992 band Riverside? Sort of an Ocean Blue spinoff....I need to find their cd...I used to own it but now its out of print.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I have not finished RE4 yet. I finally got past the part where you're stuck in the house surrounded by all the baddies last night, only to get frustrated again when I found out that I immediately have to choose between fighting another massive wave of baddies or one of those gigantor demon things.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oranges and Lemons was a perennial cut out bin favorite during my record store years.

It's discussions like this that make me love all of you beyond all reason. I listened to this album in its entirety yesterday. I have the boxed set, too, and listened to a lot of that. I was struggling to remember what song they used on Freaks and Geeks. Couldn't place it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! "Chalkhills and Children." Which for some reason I have broken out and played every time I have hung out with Nick and Jaymc in my apartment. I keep forgetting that I've played it before.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I guess it's not so easy after all!

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

How do I post a link again? I have something to say about brutal noize.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh, that's a good one -- "Chalkhills and Children." I used to dance around my room to "Pink Thing" while I sang to my dog. I'm glad no one saw me do that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! "Chalkhills and Children."

Not the song they used on Freaks and Geeks, not by a mile. It's just that I thought of it, and it's one of my favorite songs.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in awe of your rock n' roll upbringing, Chris. I only remember going to see the Village People as a kid.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Something about "Pink Thing" and dogs together creates a very disturbing mental image.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

(a href="website you want to link to")Text you want to link(/a) but replace parentheses with triangle brackets < >

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

RE4 isn't easy anymore, but it's also less fun. I just get frustrated and shut it off. :( I wish I had unlimited shotgun ammo and could just use the shotgun the whole time because all the other weapons suck.

I don't remember what XTC song is in F&G, but I know which part it's used in - in gym class, when Bill is picked last again.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Something about "Pink Thing" and dogs together creates a very disturbing mental image.

I don't blame you for saying this, because it's totally true. I didn't realize what I was saying to my dog. Better yet, he was a dachsund. Who else did I have to sing to? My pen pal Andy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Let's see if this works.

Nick, we missed the brutal noize by two days - these guys were at the Bottle on Monday night.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Stevie Wonder, which was cool. All I remember is being impressed Stevie running between instruments onstage, what with beind blind and all.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I really liked Black Sea a lot, but it's possible that it hasn't aged well - I haven't listened to it in a long time. It's definitely less polished and lush than Skylarking (they were still wondering if they were punk? Or a garage band? Or post punk or something?) and possibly cheesier in that the lyrics are to mid-80s socio-politics what Spike Lee movies are to whatever he's got a bee in his bonnet about at the time - about as subtle as a 2x4 to the head.

See "Living Through Another Cuba"

Living through another Cuba
it's 1961 again and we are piggy in the middle
while war is polishing his drum and peace plays second fiddle

Russia and America are at each other's throats
but don't you cry
just on your knees and pray, and while you're
down there, kiss your arse goodbye

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Good job, Eazy!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Better yet, he was a dachsund.

Oh, lord.

She's gotta have it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I was like 13! Come on. At least I could sing along to XTC when I was 13.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's November 2005, and I'm finally getting my tagging straight.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

(confidential to Nick: if you don't want to go for maximum treasure then the El Gigante route is easiest - you don't even have to kill it if you don't want to)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to be working this hard today.
Hi, guys.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a lot of work to do today. Which makes me wonder yet again... how early can I get away with leaving?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I really like "Drums & Wires." I think maybe I like XTC better when they're in punkier mode. "When You're Near Me I Have Difficulty" or "Helicopter" or "Making Plans for Nigel" please.

Sidenote: Anyone who likes XTC and Queen should also listen to SPARKS.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've only gotten into XTC within the last year or two! Great!

Btw, when I said I was wearing pajamas earlier, I just meant like a ratty t-shirt and boxers. Not like full-blown flannel pjs. They keep my apartment pretty warm.

C4n4st4 rehearsal tonight is JUST THE FELLAS. I think there will be drinking involved, and possibly attempts at cover songs (Ben totally knows the little guitar figure in the verse of "Message in a Bottle," and I think it'd be fun to sing).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I only have a few things to do but I can't finish doing them until my boss calls me back but apparently she's out xmas shopping with her cell phone off.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I ~~like~~ LOVE XTC and Queen! I will listen to SPARKS!!!!!

xpost: John, you would be beyond cute in full-blown flannel pjs.

And Amanda, why is it "pair of pajamas"?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

When you're near me I have difficulty res-pi-raaa-ting...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

And Amanda, why is it "pair of pajamas"?

Because otherwise it would be a unitard.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, my boss is gone too. And he specifically said he wouldn't be checking his messages or email. I'm feeling way restless...

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Drums and Wires is great. I like that one too. I like both of their incarnations -- the lush and poppy, the sharp and wiry.

hahaha. unitard.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I decided to light some incense in our apartment, which I haven't done in a long time, and the smell is giving me a hardcore olfactory flashback but I can't place exactly what I'm flashing back to. It's more of a mood than an actual memory, but it's freaking me out a little.

I think I'll go sort some laundry.

Oh by the way - if any of you are using Firefox, this extension makes it so you can select words, right click, and select HTML tags for easy post formatting.

xpost: Kenan, you're unitarded.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea why it's "pair" of pajamas. English is peculiar, capricious and often nonsensical. See: orthography. That's my answer.

All men need to get a cute little set of p-jammers pronto.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Flannel, baby!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

OK, this may be TMI, but I just can't sleep well clothed. This goes for pajamas and everything else. I mean, I will suffer if the situation requires it, but for a good night's sleep I cannot be restricted!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Sarah will get me some swank pjs for xmas. The problem is that I can't sleep in clothes other than boxers (TMI, sorry) because I start to feel like I'm all twisted up in them and can't sleep, so I would put them on in the evening, take them off right before bed, and then put them on again after I wake up but before I take a shower? Seems kind of unwieldy.

Jenny I will burn you a copy of the Sparks album I have and you will probably hate it. But maybe not!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

OK, this may be TMI, but I just can't sleep well clothed. This goes for pajamas and everything else.

I may have been lying when I said what I was wearing earlier.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

OH wait to respond to a question earlier:

Frontera Grill is pretty fucking awesome. We got an appetizer sampler platter thing that involved ceviche, taquitos, cheesy things, salsa, guacamole, and something else that I can't remember but that was super tasty. Jesse got duck mole (awesome!) and Jeff and I got tacos - mine were pork (al pastor with smoky bacon and pineapple and onion OMG) and Jeff's were chicken. Then we had flan for desert. I also got a crazy margarita that involved cucumbers and allspice but was very tasty.

Rick B4yliss himself was there and I kept getting overly excited when I saw him (because he has a TV show so he is famous and I'm a total dork when it comes to famous people) and Jesse was making jokes like "OH MY GOD here comes Rick B4liss! And he's REALLY PISSED OFF!" which is less funny here, now, than it was last night after two beers and a crazy margarita.

In summary, I would highly recommend Frontera Grill for the next time you want to have a nice but not painfully expensive dinner or your parents come to town and want to take you out because the food is really amazing. The end.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I once spent the night at Matt's house, after too much drinking and/or weed, and when I got into my car the next morning, I crossed paths with Rick B. walking around Bucktown at 9 a.m. in, like, Zubaz pants or something.

Speaking of which: my mom and I had dinner at Adobo and were both very happy with it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Future pajamas:

http://www.discountdance.com/image/419x450/8999.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

My post was an xpost with Dan, btw. The men of CHILX sleeping in very little clothing shocker.

What did you find at Adobo that was vegetarian? When I looked at the menu before, all I saw was meat meat meat.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Rick Bayless vomits alot. Come'on ricky, google me.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff and I are members of the Cult of the Housepants, which means that as soon as we walk in the door and are reasonably assured we aren't leaving the house again, outside clothes come off and housepants, in the form of PJs, go on. Jeff sleeps in his drawers, too, but spends most of his awake in-house time clothed in PJs.

That's how pajamas work for dudez who prefer to sleep in their panties.

xpost: Naw, man. Chef's Pants. For some reason, people who work in kitchens are excused from all laws of fug and fashion and get to wear insane pants the likes of which usually aren't seen outside of the Jersey Shore circa 1986.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

We call em LPs -- lounge pants.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

as soon as we walk in the door and are reasonably assured we aren't leaving the house again, outside clothes come off and housepants, in the form of PJs, go on.

Yep. I have several pair of goofy-looking PJ-bottom/decorative sweatpants kind of things. No matching tops. It's all about a t-shirt and warm fuzzy pants. And two pair of socks, when it's cold.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Chef's Pants" are supposed to not show stains. They do this by looking very ugly.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

What did you find at Adobo that was vegetarian? When I looked at the menu before, all I saw was meat meat meat.

The, umm, Vegetarian Plate: Achiote flavored tamal stuffed with roasted chile guero and tomato; roasted acorn squash en tacha; fresh corn and huitlacoche flan; enfrijolada with goat cheese, wild mushrooms and basted with black bean salsa.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I mostly wear pj bottoms and a tank top around our apartment avec socks.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) We also had a very nice Argentinian wine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to find a photo of my dark blue Oleg Cassini flannel pajamas, but the Internet has failed me. Manda, you should host a co-ed pajama party.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, Sarah, "Reviving McLusky" sounds like a movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

avec socks

I do have one pair that I just pull over my feetsies when they're cold. That's pretty neat.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

All the kids who go to the cooking school next door wear these baggy checkered chef pants, and they all smoke. They look like they're all part of a giant ska band.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm taking a banana break.

I think Nick needs PJs just because they're fuckin cute.

Also, while it is true that I do use the word feetsies, I sometimes hesitate because it sounds so much like feces.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Titling Movies

Untitling Movies

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I used to wear socks in bed but then was reprimanded for it. Sometimes I will if it's VERY cold, but otherwise hell no. It's the only time of the day when my feet can breathe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

The other morning, after taking a sleeping pill which rendered me without memory, I woke up in socks, a t-shirt, and no pants or underwear. I thought it an odd choice.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Filene's Basement is the place to go for fine yet affordable men's pyjamas.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I sleep in boxers and add a t-shirt if it's cold (and pajama pants if it's REALLY cold), but I've wanting a nice pair of lounging pajamas for years.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I bet there's at least a couple of really cool cooks at that school. Sometimes I wonder why I didn't take the plunge and go to culinary school.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Usually around the house I wear LPs and a t-shirt/sweater or whatever I'm wearing outside but I have this bright blue sweatsuit that is too big (elephantine, really) and that's what I wear to walk the dogs. The sweatpants are huge and have a little pocket in the back, it's pretty funny. Very 80s. To bed I don't wear much. Definitely NO SOCKS.

Chances are, the foodservice students actually are in a giant ska band.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

The CHIC cafe at the cooking school has prix-fixe three-course dinners for $25, BYOB. Had a good dinner there once, though the coffee at the end of the meal was stone cold.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Which reminds me:
I once went out on a date with this guy I met at a Halloween party. I was dressed as a peacock, he was a detective. When he came to pick me up, his car had a vanity plate that read "SKA GUY."

This made me know instantly that things were not going to work out for us. I can't see myself with someone who has a vanity plate, much less one that reads "SKA GUY". I've been told that this is shallow of me. I disagree. It's practical. SKA GUY? Come on. He was really nice though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

You mean he was a skatective.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

My God. SKA GUY is pretty awful. May as well have a vanity plate that reads FRAT BOY. Or CLULESS.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's CHIC that I'm talking about, it's right next door. They also have a lunch service, which my work took me to on my first day of working here, but I don't remember what I ate other than a tasty cactus salad. But the kids don't look cool, they look like typical moron college kids. And this may be a stupid thing to say, but I don't understand how people who are supposed to work with food can be smokers, that shit messes up your ability to smell and taste.

My sister went out with a guy in a ska band when she was in high school.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I want to have a side project called Ziegenskagen. Anyone want to join the horn section?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm I wore fleece socks to bed last night and kept the window open for that extra freezing blast. Socks in bed are totally important when there's no one else to put cold feet on (and possibly especially then, depending on someone else's feelings about cold-foot contact) but for all non-sleeping-type activities they MUST COME OFF. This is a cardinal rule. Look, I know it's a little particular but that's just the way it is.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's kind of a shame that checkered sneakers always mean ska. Apart from that, they're kinda cool.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

ah, culinary school. i had a partial scholarship to Johnson and Wales in 1993...never quite made it. i kick myself for that.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Socks in bed? SOCKS IN BED? How can you sleep? Don't your feet get overheated? Doesn't your heat get overfeeted?

I think maybe the schism here is between sheets untucked, socks on and sheets tucked, socks off. Because if your sheets are tucked, your feet warm up pretty quickely.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

EZ - I'll be the freako who "skanks" at the side of the stage for no apparent reason.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Tucking sheets is stupid.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

and i never was in a ska band...my college roomate was.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, unless you're a maid in the hospitality industry and it's your job, and then God bless you for it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was in a ska band in high school, of course. We wrote a whole set of tunes, played the Battle of the Bands, and called it a day.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

(it was called Jumpin' Jupiter)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha. Were YOU the SKA DUDE? This was in DC in 1997.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I would recognize him, I think. Really, all we did was drive around in his skamobile and eat some ice cream. Yeah, we ate ice cream and then he took me home. It was clearly not happening.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

NO!

I didn't listen to ska until I was in the band, and that was only for a few weeks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

this is in or around DC in 1997
no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Ska was still pretty big my freshman year of college. The big band on campus was the Velveteens, they played at like every event, and these guys on a different hall of my dorm started their own ska band of which I was jealous because I wasn't in a band yet and I missed it.

Sheets tucked rules, that way they stay straight and don't get all tangled up!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

everybody who works with food smokes, though. it seems like an unwritten rule. when i waitressed, i seemed like the only one who didn't.

a long time ago, i dated a guy who looked just like rick bayless. a bunch of us were in a bar once (including him) and saw rick bayless there, and it was kind of bizarre.

yes, i get behind on this thread.

i wear cotton kimonos all the time around my place. i have one with dragons on it. with the weather colder, they're not warm enough anymore though.

i wear socks in bed sometimes, i get cold!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

The only time I'm not wearing socks, I'm in the shower.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sheets tucked rules, that way they stay straight and don't get all tangled up!

I bet you actually make your bed, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

hospital corners

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sergioleone.net/mt-26.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

a long time ago, i dated a guy who looked just like rick bayless.

I'm so sorry. There there.

I love your kimonos. I need one. I'll be like Chevy Chase in Caddyshack.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't make the bed! Fuck that noise. I just tuck the sheets. And I'm sorry, I'm way more Klugman than you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh that's right, I forgot you are a sportswriter.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sheets totally tucked along the bottom edge and maybe bottom 1/3 of the sides, so they don't shift around and fall off mid-slumber which results in me waking up FREEZING. Actually making bed? TOTALLY OPTIONAL.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

he was cuter than rick bayless though! though it ended weirdly.

i think i need winter kimonos. that would be cool.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, tell us more about YOU. I feel like I don't truly know LAUREL. Where do you live? What are your pet peeves? Are you a Klugman or a Randall?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

(jaymc already knows all of this about you, btw)

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost, hahaha) I have met Laurel.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

ZING

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I never make my bed OR tuck the sheets!

(I do wear socks in the shower though.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

High five, Jordan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I make the bed, tuck the sheets and am not a neat freak about anything except for the bed.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm from Whitehall, Jay knows where that is, but now I live in a kind of sketchy part of Brooklyn. I am however going home for Christmas so I'll wave across the lake (although it's really across from Milwaukee, just pretend). I love that American Airlines recently opened a direct flight I can take home, but if I keep reading this thread I may have to start transferring again through CHI and ask you all to come visit me at the airport.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

A direct flight? To where? Grand Rapids?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

We'll come meet you at the airport in our pyjamas.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to Iowa City for Thanksgiving, and it turns out that it's cheaper to fly than to rent a car for three days.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

The word "pyjamas" (British spelling) always reminds me of P.G. Wodehouse, for some reason -- I've never even read him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

for a minute i had to stare at that post and try to remember the american spelling. pajamas. ah yes.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Jay, to GR. Gag.

OH, and when I said that socks must come off for non-sleeping-type activities, I didn't mean, like, lounging around the house, I meant that big ol' rag wool socks are a cold house DO and a make-out DON'T.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wollen sock feet way up in the air is a big porno don't.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I would rather be making out in socks than not be making out at all. It's not like making out in a children's art smock or something.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

At least socks come off very easily and don't require snaps.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like making out in a children's art smock or something.

*scratches chin, stares into space*

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

What Not To Wear

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Tucking the sheets if key if you sleep with a cover stealer. If I don't tuck the sheets, I wake up with a little corner of the blanket while Jeff is like a human burrito on the other side of the bed, all rolled up in the sheet and most of the blanket.

Making the bed is key if you have cats who like to sleep on your bed and you prefer that your sheets not have a nice, thick layer of cat hair all over them.

I am unpredictable UNPREDICTABLE I tell you w/r/t wearing socks to bed. Totally depends on how cold it is, what kind of mood I'm in, etc. I am, however, a huge fan of house slippers. For some reason, I hate going around in just my socks. In the summer I'm barefoot. In the winter, it's socks and slippers.

And Jeff and I probably make out in socks more than we don't make out in socks. Keeps your feet warm while your doing it. Maybe it's a married thing...

Day off drama - I hauled a giant bag of laundry downstairs only to find that three of the four washers are in use! Who the hell else is using their holiday break to do laundry??? I'm usually the only weird one who does laundry on like Saturday night or major holidays.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Manda, you are right, basically, it's just a mental image I can't shake. Don't. Do. It. Except for the art smock, that's kind of ... so anyway, yeah! I read this thread because all y'all are, like, the COOL midwest that I didn't get a chance at before I fled to the East Coast -- it feels kind of familiar and fuzzy and yet very, very P!O!P!. I'm slowly turning into kind of an asshole New Yorker over the years for lack of other options, really, and it's nice to know there are alternatives.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

And Jeff and I probably make out in socks more than we don't make out in socks.

I officially retract my offer to put you in my movie.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I am amusing myself reading Jenny's last post as if Chuck Eddy wrote it.:"And Jeff and I probably make out in socks more than we don't make out in socks, but still not as much as we snuggle in socks, although I haven't snuggled in socks lately, so I could be wrong."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, at least you're amusing somebody.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I mentioned art smocks. I was trying to think of THE least sexy piece of attire and that's what I came up with.

But hey, remember art smocks? And sharing scissors? And being left handed and having everyone call you the Hulk because you had to use the green scissors and everyone else used the red ones?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember any of that. I was a heavy drinker at the time.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I probably haven't thought of art smocks in 15 years.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

BOOYAH we are now getting out of work at 3:00

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I work late today and also on Friday. My life is silly.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, is now the right time to start a new thread?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Meh.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I mentioned art smocks. I was trying to think of THE least sexy piece of attire and that's what I came up with.

http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/images/us/local/products/detail/f05641_dt.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha. that looks like what my art teacher Miss Dull used to wear. that's right -- Miss Dull.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hey I just talked to someone on the phone with the same last name as Kelsey.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I had a PE teacher named Mr. Ashit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.homeroomdirect.com/cat-images-xl/CR452.jpg
Unsexiest sweater ever

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

would that be pronounced "a-shit" or "ass-hit"?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

"ass-shit"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Don't we enrage people by starting new threads?

Laurel, I'm an asshole east coaster (but not a NYer... more of a wanna-be Philadelphian) so I'm kind of thrilled to be a part of the cool, fuzzy midwesterner feeling. Unless you were thinking "Cool, fuzzy midwesterners, except for that pullapartgirl who can just suck one," which don't tell me if that's what you were thinking, okay?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

I have a bit of restless leg, which isn't as bad as it used to be, but having something on my feel makes them ache a lot less. I think it's the compression.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

AH-SHIT

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Vermont Country Store: Your source for the unsexiest clothing ever. Favorite retail destination for repressed Christians everywhere.

Although I would probably sport this of my own free will. But I screw with my socks on so I'm perhaps not the best judge.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

GIS result for "unsexy"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I hate wearing socks in bed. The second I sit down, I pull them off and throw them across the room in the general direction of the dirty clothes basket.

I decided the best way to calm myself down right now is to dramatically lower my goal of how much I wanted to accomplish before I take off. WHO. CARES. It will be here when I get back. I just need to make my desk look a little more pretty so as to not offend anyone.

In other news, I think it's sexy - or at least feels sexy - to be partially clothed sometimes when doing special couples activities. Ha ha. I can't even type it. Anyway, yeah, sometimes that means keeping socks on.

― Reviving McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Crop top dickie will not ride up

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes to partially clothed. Like you just CAN'T BE BOTHERED to take everything off. THERE'S NO TIME!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

My aunt Val was a big fan of dickies in the late 70s, early 80s. I'd watch her get dressed to go out and PARTY and think, "Huh. Dickies. What a dumb name for a dumb undergarment." She also had about 30 different colors of old-school high-heeled Candies.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

The ah thing about children's art smocks is that they open in the back, y'see? So someone else has to get the buttons and -- you know what? Nevermind.

My mother is prone to those horrid embroidered things, we call them "teacher sweaters" and every year we physically restrain her from buying them -- well, by now she knows better but there was a scary time when she was liable to appear at major holidays looking like a quilt on LSD.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

There's no art smock, but what Laurel is describing reminds me of this...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Ghost_pottery_wheel.jpg

Not a bad idea at all.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

There's something to be said for unsexy clothes on a sexy person at a sexy moment - there's the alchemy of turning the unsexiest sweater or hunting cap (see Chicago 11 or 12) into something thrilling. Just as the sexiest negiligee on the wrong barfly...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, there's something to be said for sexy clothes on a sexy person at a sexy moment, too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Something to be said for clothes vs. Volumes to be written about nudity

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Those volumes evidently to be written elsewhere...

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://aquila.cool.ne.jp/nebagibu/pillowbook.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Running behind here, but:

* sleeping nude wins every time. Plus, it's warmer! (science fact)

* SOCKS BEFORE PANTS SOCKS BEFORE PANTS SOCKS BEFORE PANTS

* Art smocks are fun!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

There's something to be said for unsexy clothes on a sexy person at a sexy moment

AGREED.

C or C: the clothes that girls where when repainting the living room in the middle of the summer

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to know what this science is that you allude to.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

The Fake F1ctions - Art Smock

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

btw: who's getting the email notifications? You poor fool.

xpost: real science! You heat the air under a blanket more efficiently if you're not wearing clothes. The more layers you have on, the less able your body is to release moisture. No clothes = no sweats! But warm!

I'll dig up some real science here....

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

But surely if you're wearing clothes then you're heating the air UNDER YOUR CLOTHES?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, K., Gib is right - that's not sweat, that's pee.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

So, uh, apparently I'm totally wrong: http://www.google.com/search?q=sleeping%20naked%20is%20warmer&sourceid=mozilla2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Whatever. I'm still sleeping naked.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

It's warmer to sleep with someone else. Science fact.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Unless the other person is a cover-stealing burrito man.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I steal my own covers. Or rather, I'll be freezing cold but still end up in some position where I've thrown off some of my covers (unbeknownst to myself). Then I'll wake up in the morning and weep for the hours of missed warmth.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

BURRITO MAN!
HOMBRE DEL BURRITO!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's not warmer to sleep with someone else if the someone else perpetually has feet and hands that feel like they've been soaking in a bucket of ice water for several hours.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, Jenny and John talking about their Mexican dinners upthread gave me THE CRAVING, so I was forced to go out for tacos at lunch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

the clothes that girls where when repainting the living room in the middle of the summer

You mean the paint- and printer's ink-smeared REI cargo pants and the Tshirts left over from my line cook days? Oh yeah. Sex on a stick.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm craving pyjamas and a nap right about now.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

ONE MORE HOUR. I don't know if I can make it. Anyone want to play literati, to help pass the time?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

You mean the paint- and printer's ink-smeared REI cargo pants and the Tshirts left over from my line cook days? Oh yeah. Sex on a stick.

That's the stuff! It's the definition of "this old thing?" Like, "I'd be naked right now but then I'd get paint on." Like, "these clothes mean nothing to me." The wearer's casual disregard for the clothing makes them see-through or something.

I obviously can't explain this.

Also: ripped old shorts/t-shirts and no bras.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think I know what you mean, gib.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

And here I was thinking white overalls.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I totally know what you mean. I think it has to do with the eroticism of the taboo - if someone is dressed for an activity that is not sexual, we will want to have sex with them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

ripped old shorts/t-shirts and no bras.

There's hot potential here, dampened by the fact that you are obviously describing a lesbian.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, since we find intentionally sexual attire erotic too, it basically means that any attire is erotic. Or lack of attire. That too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Bottom line: sex is fun.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, since we find intentionally sexual attire erotic too

Who's "we," white man?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think the only exception to this, Nick, is the not-kitschy-enough-to-be-funny slogan t-shirt.

I think the ladies have left us.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

There's such an obvious Friday mentality going on today, it's sweet.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

What about the t-shirts with pit-stains that are visible when we reach to paint the corners, how hot is that? Huh?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

if someone is dressed for an activity that is not sexual, we will want to have sex with them.

Exactly. And not just "not sexual," but dressed purposefully for something explicitly not sexual. Normal clothes MIGHT be sexual: who knows? Gym/work/activity clothes: you're supposed to be doing something else.

...this might have something to do with "a man in uniform?"

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine jaymc sneering disdainfully at cleavage.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Sweatiness can certainly be erotic. See the "gym clothes" scenario.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

I actually do find t-shirts and no makeup and pajama pants (i.e. Sunday gear) sexier than a stylish outfit because it makes rolling around in bend seem much more plausible. No worries about getting cat hair on the shirt that you have to wear out later, messing up hair, etc.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sweat produces MUSK. PHEROMONES, PPL!!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

(Seriously though, who's getting the email notifications? Did someone play a mean trick on someone else?)

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Husk musk.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Nope. Man in uniform is more about authority, or about the whole brute-strength-and-competence UPS/mechanic/fireman idea. Believe it or not this isn't actually my thing, apart from the greasy hands and smell-of-gasoline part.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I find any article of clothing sexy on the right person. Also, one of those things that I find attractive, but probably shouldn't is watching girls struggle to get jeans on. Also burkas. hubba hubba.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hot: jeans but no bra or shirt.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

While you guys were talking about sex, I was out carefully selecting second-hand serving dishes at the Brown Elephant and searching for someone who will duplicate a "do not duplicate" key.

I think guys are just horny all the time and try to justify this with discussions of how women are sexy in various states of slovenly dres.

xpost: Jeff, does this mean you get a kick out of watching me do the tights hop?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Pajamas are almost always sexy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

brute-strength-and-competence UPS/mechanic/fireman

Jeff, also, OTM w/r/t getting jeans on.

...basically I just need to get a girlfriend, ASAP.

xpost: TATAS

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Nick OTM.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I like it when men have a little gut on 'em.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

We're your boys around here.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

"I think guys are just horny all the time and try to justify this with discussions of how women are sexy in various states of slovenly dres."

This is correct.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

The Tights Hop. Hahahhahaha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think a little poochy stomach looks good on men and women, really. Stomachs were not meant to be flat. They're meant to pooch.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Is gasoline bad for your skin? Because I would like men to wear it as cologne.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I agree. And maybe smear some in their hair.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Stomachs were not meant to be flat. They're meant to pooch.

Diffrent strokes, though. I have no inherent problem with tight, flat tummies.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Gasolina" just came up on my iPod.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

In unrelated news...a shameless plug:

Hey looky looky - clear the calendar for Jan. 3 at 10:30 PM!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want Jeff to smell like gasoline, because it would give me a headache, but I do love when he smells like this, except that it makes me go to great lengths to put my nose near his face and that can be inconvenient when driving or working or trying to make dinner.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! North Carolina! And Dan! Awesome!!!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, it looks like I'm laying over at ORD on Dec 21, although it will probably only be for, like, 40 minutes and I will be lucky to get a cup of coffee and a cigarette in between. Still, I'll think of you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Other people: nothing wrong with a little pooch, esp. for girls.

Myself, I would love not to pooch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Brunswick County isn't that far from where Jeff grew up, Amanda. I am really excited to see this film.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I GET TO GO HOME EARLY!!!!!!

Hey Chicago: I have to drive to Mpls tonight. Should I

(a) leave the city at 5pm, like every other jerk (i'd leave earlier but my roommate is coming and he won't be home yet)

(b) wait until later (7ish) and get home extremely late

(d) leave tomorrow morning, crack o'

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Cracko?

http://www.chappellecenter.com/seasonone/episodes/images/108_3.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, is Jan. 3 at 10:30 PM when the film is airing on Chicago broadcast TV? And do you know which PBS station? We get two!

xpost: I'll bet that you will hit hideous traffic no matter when you leave.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'll bet that you will hit hideous traffic no matter when you leave.

This is what I was afraid of. Stupid roommate with his stupid work.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, gib, just leave at 5, because it's going to suck no matter what.

I'm saying this now in case I forget to say it in the next half hour, but I hope everyone has a great and sexy holiday weekend, and if you want to hang out, give me a call, because I probably won't be doing much that can't be interrupted.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

In your pajamas!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, is Jan. 3 at 10:30 PM when the film is airing on Chicago broadcast TV? And do you know which PBS station? We get two!

Check your listings for whichever station plays the program Independent Lens -- that's what it will be listed as. I can't remember offhand, but be sure that I will remind you again when it gets closer.

As for driving, I like to drive at night, so I would choose leave at 7, get there hella late and wake up at my (your) destination.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Gib, don't forget to switch on 89.3 when you get within an hour of Minneapolis. That's some good radio, or at least it can be.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

I like to drive at night, so I would choose leave at 7, get there hella late and wake up at my (your) destination.

I'm thinking that this might be the best bet. We can share driving duties, too.

xpost: I know! It's SORT OF like Rev105 used tobe.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

ALMOST TIME TO LEAVE HOORAH
Sarah got to the airport so early that they managed to put her on an earlier flight home. So that's cool.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

BYE GUYS

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

BYEEEEEE

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Bye, have fun making a solo album!

I like Roger Ebert's semi-sensical, don't-give-a-fuck reviews:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051122/REVIEWS/51120001

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Soooo, is anyone else still here?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. That is a new standard, I think. (Re: Ebert.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

I am. My company lied, I have to leave at my regular time 2.5 more hours.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm here until like 6:30, diggy doo. But I'm intermittently fact-checking an article on this year's Nobel Prize in Medicine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm here.

Yeah, that Ebert review is hard to read it's so nonsensical.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ding!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

but it's a fun review anyway. so totally goofy.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

I want Roger Ebert to be my dad, no matter how melty he looks.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

There's also an Ebert article this week where he talks about how he convinced Oprah to go into syndication in the mid-80s. He says they went on a "couple dates" -- although it is not exactly clear what kind of "dates" these were! You know he likes the dark-skinned honeys, though, since he's now married to one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

He totally nailed Oprah.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

"All of these years I have maintained a discreet silence about my role as Oprah's adviser, but now that she has spilled the beans, the time is right to tell the whole story:

I totally fucked Oprah."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Well, we know for a fact that they had dinner and saw a movie.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

And he paid for dinner.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

The "well, actually, two dates" part is what makes me raise my eyebrow -- like he couldn't resist letting us know that he and Oprah hooked up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

And gave her TWO THUMBS UP!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

They would have made such a cute couple.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! Harry Potter likes boobies.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. Ebert once called Emma Watson a "babe in training."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I just looked it up, for reasons that may be all too obvious, but Emma Watson is only 15. I didn't know that. I assumed that she was just *playing* a 15 year old. Maybe it was wishful thinking.

I can't wait till she turns slutty and shows up in Playboy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hi poochies! I'm at home because they let us go home a little early! I am going to change into my LPs or maybe my housedress and make up some onesies for my little nephew whose name I forgot.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc - you have musical mail.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

TONS of musical mail. I hope I zipped the files right -- I've never done that before.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Happy Thanksgiving!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 24 November 2005 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

argh

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hi! I just woke up in my dad's guest bedroom, thinking that he had whispered my name to get me up. But no, he's gone. I think he went out running. The ghost whisper interrupted me from a dream in which I had discovered a poem my dad had written. All I can really remember is the phrase "cuntic wars."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I will not tell him about this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha. I ended up being totally lazy last night, eating Asian noodles, watching Sealab 2021, playing Resident Evil, drinking beer. I did a little home recording but it's pretty shitty.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I was obscenely productive yesterday. And will continue the trend after breakfast.

It's a sad comment about law school that I look at a day where I clean, cook, and work on outlines instead of just read as being a break from my studies.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

happy thanksgiving! this staff lady from my building who has to work today heard that i'd be around and told me she's going to bring me sweet potato pie, booyah.

i watched this incredibly depressing movie yesterday, which starred mark ruffalo's butt. all the sex and the ass shots (the camera was very fond of ruffalo's butt) didn't seem all that sexy though, because it was the kind of movie that has characters fucking up their lives and leaving you wondering about the state of humanity.

but today i'm all pleasantly sleepy and have pizza to eat and lotsa cool music to listen to, and a mellow parents-free day thanks to a bit of rescheduling, which is actually really handy because they'll have lots of leftovers to stock my fridge. all i really care about thanksgiving-food-wise is homemade cranberry sauce and pumpkin pie, but i won't complain about a nice variety of good foodstuffs.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 24 November 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Man, Jesse my Thanksgiving Elf is MIA! I want somebody to come over and hang out with me while I cook, or I'm just going to start drinking to entertain myself.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

IT IS COLDER THAT A WELL DIGGER'S TIT

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

er... than.

17 degrees at noon, with a 25 mph wind. Hello, Chicago!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

My new RAM works like a charm. I'm up to a gig now. So the specs: AMD Athalon 2800+, 2.09GHz, 1 gig RAM. Now once I get an external hard drive, say 200 gigs (?), I'll really be in business.

Techno joy!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Is this an ok deal on an external hard drive? It is a brand I should avoid? I like the cheap 2-year warranty.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

My loose guideline, from what I've seen online, is not to pay more than a dollar a gig.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in Minnesota now! My dog killed a FOX!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Aw... poor fox!

Unless he was eating your chickens. Then, evil fox.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.grizzlymanmovie.com/img/wallpapers/fox1280x1024.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, is an internal HD feasible? I paid $159 for a 300GB Western Digital internal. I call it "Dump Truck."

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hm... well I was hoping to be able to take lots of files to work and back if I need to. Take now, for instance -- I could be working if I had pulled all my (quite numerous and large) files off my work computer and brought them home. So the external thing is an advantage I'm hoping for.

But then again, if I save that much money...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

william! fancy an isc game (or literati)?

i think i must have pressed the button to upgrade trillian and now it doesn't work...grrr grrrrr.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Julia! Right after I posted here we were off to my parents' house for the Big Feed. I'll be available later this evening for a game if you're around.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 24 November 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that's too expensive.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 25 November 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

sooooo...fulllll...

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 25 November 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

FULL AND DRUNK.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 25 November 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

EVEN MORE DRUNK PROBABLY> MY ROOMMATE IS FIGHTING W/MY DAD INRE: POLITICS!!!!1111

FUN!@

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 25 November 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, the dinner table was all about politics tonight. Luckily, my dad's entire side of the family is made up of liberals, and every other sentence began, "Well, did you see that piece in the Times where..." or "Did you hear on NPR that..." or "Did anyone see that bit on The Daily Show..."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 25 November 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hi john.

haha "the daily show." I bet conservatives perk right up and pay attention when they hear that.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

hmm... I'm not sure what I meant by that. Either they *do* perk up because they want to argue, or they *don't* perk up because it's so far off their radar. So I'm sure if I was being ironic or not.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm NOT sure.

Also, I am ridiculously sleepy, and cannot sleep.

Also, it is extraordinarily cold outside, considering it's November. This is a January night.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

I am in my jammies. To wit:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/jammies.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

It's really no wonder that I have never worn jammies to bed before. See, I grew up in Texas, where it never ever gets down to SIXTEEN GODDAMN DEGREES. HOLY JESUS ON A CRACKER IT'S COLD OUTSIDE.

[Cue Canadians telling me that I'm a pussy.]

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

Also, since I am alone in being awake tonight, it does me no harm to mention that I have listened to The Fine Young Cannibals 1989 classic "The Raw and the Cooked" in its entirety this evening, and enjoyed it more than I expected to. It doesn't hold up like, say, an 80's Gibraltar like "Songs from te Big Chair," but it's pretty damn solid. Made me rach for Beat albums, of course.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

one more:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/05.11.25.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 07:37 (nineteen years ago)

Why did I wake up at 6 AM today?

Jeff burned me 5 DVDs of music but apparently they aren't going to work on my laptop. Why do I always forget that my laptop can't read data files off of DVD-Rs?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I really have a craving to listen to Xiu Xiu but I don't have any, so I'm making do with Shudder to Think. It's not really the same.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

I can't decide what I want to do today. I need to go to the library because I don't have anything fun left to read, but I can't think of anything in particular I do want to read, so I might just get frustrated. Also, I need to go to Reckless and sell some DVDs and CDs to get extra cash to buy the guitar that I'm thinking of buying, but I am lazy. I could do both, I guess, but it would be two trips because I'd have to carry library books and DVDs and CDs. I think I'm just crazy from waking up so early.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm cold.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to work.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm already at work. That's why I'm cold. Walking 4 blocks from the bus stop just about killed me. Temp: 13 degrees.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

i'm cold just from getting out of bed. i should just hibernate. but i have holiday family quality time later this afternoon (oh i am so thrilled, sigh) so i guess i have to get up sometime.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not at work, but I'm up and working. I think I'd like to leave the house today but I'm not sure what I want to do out there. A trip to the library sounds very enticing, though...

I'm also eating a little piece of leftover butternut squash lasagna and it's very good cold. I also want a big after thanksgiving breakfast but who knows when Jeff will wake up.

Also this: Luckily, my dad's entire side of the family is made up of liberals, and every other sentence began, "Well, did you see that piece in the Times where..." or "Did you hear on NPR that..." or "Did anyone see that bit on The Daily Show..."

Sounds like bliss. Whereas my stepfather's side of the family still, right now, despite everything, think GWBush was completely and totally right. About everything.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

my father's like that too. i avoid the topic of politics because it's waaaay too maddening.

once in a while i'll mention something from npr that's entertaining or interesting but not political, and there's always a whole commentary from them about how that station is full of whiny bullshit. whatever.

for my parents' visit today, i have something for dad to help me out with, so he can take out his swiss army knife and play with assembling stuff, so he can be entertained and my mom and i can talk about...um. hair or clothes or something safe.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

There were no politics at my Thanksgiving. We went over to a friend's house, so it was a few people from my work and a bunch of under-30 video game developers. It was pretty great, and the meal (and booze) was ridiculous. Maddie and I ended up taking an hour long nap in a guest bedroom at some point.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

here's always a whole commentary from them about how that station is full of whiny bullshit.

Right! My mom talks about how she was so angry when NPR started questioning the war in Iraq and only talking about the "bad side," she wrote them a letter to let them know that she would not longer be supporting public radio. When I suggested that they were only talking about the "bad side" because there was no "good side," I nearly got disowned.

Most arguments go like this:

Me: Assertion.
Stepfather: Disbelief.
Me: Support for assertion.
SF: Demand for source.
Me: Provide source that, having played this game, I know is reputable.
SF: Denouncement of source as "liberal media" and therefore untrustworthy.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha oh yes that liberal media.

and you know,that ann coulter book may seem extreme, but look at all the footnotes! it's so well and thoroughly researched!

my sister and brother in law have gotten to where they're daring enough to bring up politics with my mom and dad. it's kind of entertaining to watch them argue, but waaaaay too tiring.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in awe at the picture of Ricky Gervais in this Momus post.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I can bring my external drive over and we can copy them off of it.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in awe at the picture of Ricky Gervais in this Momus post.

Oh my god! Gross!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Holy crap!

....I think I totally embarassed myself in front of the fam last night. Thank god they're all out of the house right now. Yeeks.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=bizarre&id=3666567

Awww. I loved that chocolate smell.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 25 November 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Why did I wake up at 6 AM today?

Why did I go to bed at 6 AM last night?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 25 November 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I am having a superlazy day. I did eventually make it out to the library, where I checked out a bunch of books and a newer Brian Eno cd (Nerve Nets) and a cd of highlights from The Ring of the Nibelung. Then I came home and read on the couch under a blanket while listening to Wagner. I keep feeling like I should be DOING something, even though I've checked and there are no movies or shows that I'm excited about and I'm having a good time just reading and relaxing, but I keep thinking "HEY! Maybe I should go check out a video! Or eat something! Or play video games!" I wish I could just enjoy being relaxed and lazy. I think it's time to make some coffee.

Books I checked out, in case you're wondering:
House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski (not expecting to make through all of this but thought it looked interesting)
A biography of Rasputin (ditto)
Some book about Arctic exploration, endorsed by Jon Krakauer, which is enough for me
Civilwarland by George Saunders
The Ballad of the Whiskey Robber by Julien Rubinstein
and Barvard's Folly by Paul Collins, which is the one I'm reading now and enjoying a lot - short pieces on people who were famous at their time but are unknown now, usually because they were revealed to be frauds or liars or just incompetent

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

That said, if anyone wants to go get dinner or see a movie (The Squid and the Whale?) or something tonight, give me a call. I am a slug.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually a little annoyed that my second interview for the weird job was rescheduled to tomorrow because it means I actually have to SHAVE. Buh.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, share your thoughts on BALLAD, if you don't mind. I've been staring at it for months and it's just not getting any priority on my reading list but I have a feeling it OUGHT to, so now there's guilt and sheepishness in addition to my already well-documented laziness.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Interview on Saturday? Weird.

House of Leaves IS interesting, but I didn't make it through either. Partly because I'm not a "skimmer" and forcing myself to read the all the made-up academic footnotes drove me crazy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

hey, is anyone going out this weekend? i might go see adult tonite and then the afterparty at lava? and then tomorrow there's some pajama party thing at uh darkstore or jerkstore or something like that. $1 beers .
oh and the bears game on sunday. im going to get some lou malnatis or some chicken wings

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'll let you know what I think of Ballad, Laurel, but I don't know when I'll get to it. If I finish Barvard's Folly in the next day or two I'm probably going to jump right into House of Leaves while I have the vacation time and can concentrate on it a little more. So I'm not sure when i'll get around to BotWR.

I am never going again, because it is cold. If I were going to go to a show or something tonight I would go see Man Man at Subterranean because I heard their cd in Reckless and it sounded pretty cool. But hi, Phil!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

OMG it's snowing! Yay because snow but boo because Jeff drove to work and now I'm going to be a fucking wreck with worry until he's home safe.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

Barvard's Folly by Paul Collins, which is the one I'm reading now and enjoying a lot - short pieces on people who were famous at their time but are unknown now, usually because they were revealed to be frauds or liars or just incompetent

...I read the titular essay in the very first issue of McSweeney's (or maybe the third). Outstanding, especially because at the time I thought it was a work of fiction.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

I recorded a song, because I was bored. It's inspired by "Regulate" by Warren G and other west coast rap. You can freestyle over it if you want:

http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2V355X03OG6ZV01X96U523VRVI

I've never yousent anything before, I hope I did it right.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's called "Solresol."

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how you do that stuff. I am jealous.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 26 November 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

I like the guitar. Is that played or sampled?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

That song is almost all my Korg DW-8000 80's synth, except for the drum machine and the guitar, which is real guitar.

I did another one, because I am bored and lonely. This one is shorter (about 2 minutes), has vocals, is essentially a rip-off of more upbeat Smog, and is called "Bird-Eyed Dog."

http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WHN0EBQH5WWC3B0Y8B0OHX6XM

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

Bon soir, mes amis chicagoiens - j'ecrit d'Iowa City ce soir. J'ai vu aujourd'hui - superbe! chouette! Meilleur d'annee? Peut-etre.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

oh, ILX thought that my French quotation marks were tags, I think -

J'ai vu "Bon Soir et Bonne Chance" etc., etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

I took a walk, it's nice outside.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Favorite Firesign Theatre line: "It's nice out... I think I'll leave it out." (/WC Fields voice)

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

The city is a crime scene tonight, and there's evidence everywhere. Don't bother trying to cover your tracks. We already know. We dusted for fingerprints. We know who has walked on what sidewalk and what size shoe they wear. We know who has driven out of their garage, and who hasn't. We know what streets you frequent and what streets don't go anywhere good. We know if you've left your house, moved your car, gone into that convenience store or this bar. We know if you've opened that gate, brushed against that tree. We know all about you. There's evidence everywhere.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

that must have sounded very paranoid. Just foolin'. Here's this instead:

my mind is
a big hunk of irrevocable nothing which touch and taste and smell
and hearing and sight keep hitting and chipping with sharp fatal
tools
in an agony of sensual chisels i perform squirms of chrome and ex
-ecute strides of cobalt
nevertheless i
feel that i cleverly am being altered that i slightly am becoming
something a little different, in fact
myself
Hereupon helpless i utter lilac shrieks and scarlet bellowings.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, time for a new thread. 1300 posts is at least a hundred too many.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:02 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Electric Ladyland

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

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