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I'm traveling there soon, and would like to know some of the best places to buy music. In particular, I'm looking for stores that have good bargain bins or hard-to-find items. Thanks.

― Questionable, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

OTHER MUSIC!

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

kim's underground on st. mark's

― autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

oh yeah, if you guys have time, please include a brief description of each store.

― Questionable, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

current fav nyc record shops

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:13 (twenty years ago) link

Best kept secret: Gimmee Gimmee Records on E5th. Walking distance from Other Music, Kims, etc - well worth it for soul, hip hop, jazz and old punk.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

shop at other music, you get defective cds.

rog is right - gimme gimme rules.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

oh hstencil haven't we covered this. you can bring in your receipt. but gimme gimme is dope, my dj partner on thurs. nites (10-2) on eastvillageradio.com sometimes goes over there right before a show

― duke village, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

I did bring it in, dude. They wouldn't allow me to exchange my Cluster II for something else, I have to wait 'til a new copy comes in (which might not work, like the other new copy I already bought).

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:47 (twenty years ago) link

Other Music CDs defective? Explain. Is it the magnetic sensor?

re: Gimme - i worked there for a while - on and off for about three years. Dan always gets the best stuff. And he's one of the nicer record store clerks you'll encounter here

Also check out a place called Footlight - if you're looking for anything obscure as far as jazz or movie soundtracks - they have it. They're pricey though. I paid $25 for the Paper Moon soundtrack on LP a few years ago. Worth every penny!

some people like Etherea but I don't - i'm still bitter about Adult Crash closing down

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

I bought 4 CDs there, 2 of 'em didn't work (one was used, the other was new). That's the story.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

also I don't think that Etherea had anything to do with Adult Crash closing down, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

I second the Kim's on St. Marks

― Jimmy Lynch (lemin), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

hstencil - nah they didn't have anything to do with it - they just replaced them. Same location. Got rid of a great record store for a shitty one. Do you realize Adult Crash used to have Dead C cassettes for sale in the back??

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link

yes, I bought many good things at Adult Crash, just not Dead C cassettes. Wish I had bought the Bertoia LP set there when I had the chance, tho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

Other Music is soooooo lame.

― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 03:48 (twenty years ago) link

slsk renders it irrelevant

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 03:54 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone ever go to King George's place on Essex St at the corner of Rivington? It's a bit like rummaging in a skip, no attempt to catalogue things, no prices on anything, most of the records in rough enough condition, but I have gotten so much good stuff there pretty cheaply by NYC standards. A great place to get classic soul and funk records, and random other stuff. You can usually bargain him down a good bit too.
Beat Street is classic too, if only for the volume levels.

― Conor (Conor), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

Of the places that are left.....

NYCD (W.80th & Columbus), Rocks In Your Head (Prince St), Rebel Rebel (on Bleeker St., though not as great as it used to be), Mondo Kim's on St. Mark's, Wowsville on 2nd Avenue between 7th & St.Marks, Rockit Scientist on Carmine St.,....

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

there's a Rockit Scientist on St. Marks now too.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

That's right....where Smash used to be, right?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

yep. Haven't been in it, tho. Maybe now they have a place to sell Sun City Girls stuff. "I don't got any, that won't sell over here, but maybe in the East Village..." was a classic quote last time I was in the Carmine St. one.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

There's also the somewhat embarassing Generation Records on Thompson St.....if you're looking for Stiff Little Fingers compilations or Casualties t-shirts.

Then there's Subterrenean Records on Cornelia Street, which does have some rare, hard to find stuff every once in a while, despite being a damp, dank cellar.

A block west of there, Record Runner strives manfully to survive by selling ancient Madonna calendars, Culture Club 7"s and dated Blur VHS tapes.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

is Second Coming still around? The dude behind the counter was huge!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

In terms of bargain-bin stuff, check out Academy Records on 18th Street between Fifth and Sixth avenues.

Second Coming is, sadly, no more. It's place(s) taken up by a Mexican take-out joint and a tatoo parlor.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

Record stores I miss:

- It's Only Rock'n'Roll on 8th Street
- Venus Records (when it was on 8th Street)
- 99 Records (hardcore 7"s ahoy!)
- Route 66 (great mid-90's place, originally on Bleeker before moving to MacDougal)
- Free Being (first on St.Mark's & 2nd Avenue - next to Gem Spa - before moving to Carmine St, after being ousted for being a drug front, supposedly)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

Route 66 wasn't bad, yeah.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

The guy who managed Route 66 - Andy - was a very nice, knowledgable-if-easily-excitable gent (I blame him for making me buy into Kula Shaker...gullible, I), but the stress of the job gave him an ulcer, I believe.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

If $ is a concern you really can't go wrong with Sounds on St. Marks and Future Legend on 9th ave. Future Legend is really great for new releases wich can usually always be found for under 12 bucks.

― danh, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

and yeah, Other Music is pretty much awful. $wise, organisation-wise, used cd-wise, pretension-wise, space-wise, and on and on...

― danh, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

asshattery!

― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

as i've mentioned on other threads, keep an eye out for footlight's 50% off sales on used vinyl/cds. you can get some really good deals that way.
i like other music just fine, although it's not exactly a bargain spot. i do most of my general shopping there or at kim's. rockit scientist's selection makes me drool, but i hate the owner so much that i haven't gone in there in at least a year.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

Some other great Manhattan record stores...

Jammyland (3rd St btw. 1st and 2nd Aves). Dub, roots, ska and dancehall. More 7"s than you can shake several sticks at. Very friendly staff + guys hanging out there will happily recommend righteous raasclaat riddims for you to purchase.

Dance Tracks (3rd St and 1st Ave). House and techno, and lots of it. Worth going into if only to check out the dream DJ booth that they have constructed next to the cash register. (Rane rotary mixer with EQ module, spring suspended cradles for the turntables.) Staff often too busy playing with said DJ booth to sell records, but are friendly enough.

Turntable Lab (7th St btw 1st Ave and Ave A). Nice selection of house and hip-hop. Good place to pick up stuff that you won't find elsewhere. Never really interacted with the staff aside from paying for records, but they seem like a nice bunch.

Sonicgroove (Ave B btw. 12th St and 13th St). Has to be the best place I know of that aside from Gemm.com for finding records you never thought you'd see again. As long as it's techno. Staff cultivates a 'don't suffer fools lightly' demeanor, but eventually warm up

― Graeme (Graeme), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

danh, what happened at other?!?!?!?!

ps: thanks to lauren, tokyo rosemary, ddb, IAN JOHNSON, jbr for parading me through quite a few of the places mentioned on this thread. i got a tom ze 12" and a traum comp.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

Rocks in Your Head is definitely worth an occassional look, I think; since it's close to my work I've killed more than a few lunch hours flipping thru its racks. A tad pricey on some things perhaps but overall really pretty good. ... Other Music always is teeming with people, approximately half of whom seem to work there. The other day I overheard a clerk explaining to a custmer the difference between what's shown as "in stock" on the Web site versus what's actually in the racks; the whole thing left my eyeballs spinning in their sockets.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

i got a tom ze 12"

that remix one? I hope you didn't pay too much (not because it's bad)...

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link

benicio del toro shops at rocks in your head.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

Archive of Contemporary Music is having its June sale this week (that's why I asked about the Ze 12", gygax!).

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

where so people shop for techno these days? it seems like all my fave spots are gone - temple, throb. well, temple and throb. (and downtown records of course)

i think rocks in yr head was the first NY record store i ever went in, although it might have been the weird one on bedford ave, with john fahey 78s and musique concrete right in the front of the shop

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

i got a tom ze 12"
that remix one? I hope you didn't pay too much (not because it's bad)...

it was $5 and it was the promo copy (not the commercial version) with the extra track.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

Throb is gone? When did that happen?

Temple's closing was a shame. Loved that line of listening stations...

Halcyon (which used to be on Smith St. in Brooklyn) recently relocated to somewhere in DUMBO. That's where I've made most of my non-internet purchases of dance music over the last year, but I've yet to check out the new space.

― Graeme (Graeme), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

Nobody here shops at Downtown Music Gallery?

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

god Halcyon was irritating.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

ah nice gygax!

Phil I shop at DMG when I get the chance, which ain't often.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

halcyon made me want to kill. $6 granola!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

be sure to stop by burritoville while you are in our fair city

sincerely,
the ILX burritoville massiv

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago) link

god Halcyon was irritating.

Was it the cafe / record store combination or the furniture store / record store combination that bothered you? My only real objection was the huge number of people having coffee with their Powerbooks.

I was, however, a huge fan of being able to stumble in drunkenly on a Friday night at 3am to buy records.

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― Graeme (Graeme), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

Ian Johnson says that our place in Providence has way better burritos!

― TRON FIGHTS FOR THE USERS (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

sounds gay to me

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

there's no way any place in New England has better burritos. Hell, even liking NYC burritos was a stretch for this former Chicago resident.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

burritoville just has that certain je ne sais quoi.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

Almost no fast food places in RI have booze licenses :(

― TRON FIGHTS FOR THE USERS (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

mr. stencil, i heard that chicagoans put mayonnaise in their burritos.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

THEY DO NOT!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

best burrito i've had in new york was at the california taqueria on court st. there's another place on 7th avenue in the slope that i liked, but i can't remember the name.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

abe stencil-froman the sausage king of chicago

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

I don't eat sausage.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link

After 9/11 my office got relocated to Jersey for like a year. When we moved back the first thing I did was order up a Bob Marley's Last for lunch.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

i know the place you mean, sc. it might also be called california taqueria, or something along those lines. they have a delicious portobello mushroom wrap kind of thing.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

although the chili cheese burrito at grilled chicken planet is nothing to scoff at.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

i love what this thread has become

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

one thing i miss about west coast living was how even the mediocre burritos were pretty damn good. but it's like that here with almost every other kind of food.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

burritos derail threads dead.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

the flying burrito thread killaz

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

hah, without fail

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

what are you talking about, "dead"? Burrito derailment guarantees longer, more livlier threads!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

can we keep talking about burritos though?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

x-post
here's what i want to say about new york burritos: i maintain that the beans in the burritos at los pollitos on 5th ave (pk slope) are cooked more perfectly than any others

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

META-MEGA-SOY-BURRITO

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

let's talk about tacos, too. we perfected the blackened tofu taco recipe last week. soooooooooo good. omg.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:52 (twenty years ago) link

dude you skipped out on Winterberg for a taco.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

haha do they have burritos out there in london, tracer? i never saw any when i was there...

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

i had a mega soy for lunch, soy bomb exploded 20 minutes later

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

KABOOOOOOM! I haven't had lunch yet.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, i never hear anyone in london talking about mexican food. i've always wondered.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

i'll make them for you, and after one bite you'll realize why i skipped out on the art. let's have a taco party!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

I can't think of anything worse than UK people talking about Mexican food, aside from maybe UK people talking about US politics.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

it's only a matter of time, they've just discovered soul food in london

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

I don't doubt they're good, lauren, but I couldn't let coach down. His book is nice!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

dude i am down for the taco party

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

lauren: when can i have this blackened tofu soy bomb extravaganza

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

"soul food in london" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!)!@)(!@!@)!!)!@)!@)!)!OMG ROFFLE!!@)!@*()!U@#)!@)!)!!!!)@*()&!@#&!@))!))!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO SHIT REALLY?!?!?!?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

we're gonna have a taco party tonight, AWRIGHT

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

mexico has some okay mexican food too... possibly comparable to something in lower manhattan.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

I was thinking of having a SMARTY PARTY this Saturday but fuckit I'd rather be there in person when he WINS THE TRIPLE CROWN.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

picture british folk eating fried chicken with a FORK AND KNIFE

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

hahahahahaha gygax! what do you think about Baja Fresh?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

i'll make tacos anytime, for everyone. tracer, i'll fedex you one.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

we got nothing better to do...

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

hahahahahaha gygax! what do you think about Baja Fresh?

baja fresh is over-rated.
started by some thousand oaks church lady or something.

and eff poquito mas while you're at it. safe/"fresh"/bland suburban mexican food = no fun.

-- gygax! (gygax0...), May 7th, 2003 6:17 PM. (gygax!)

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

(xpost) yay! now we derail the thread with black flag.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

dude nobody here thinks Burritoville (started by some CHELSEABOY which is why they constantly play the hits of ILX -HELLO BASSMENT JAXX IN MY BURRITO) is authentic!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

oh really?*

(*chances of finding soy/tofu products in 95% of mexico = very slim)

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

burritoville IS authentic. all food is made by real mexicans.

(we should have a thread of music heard in burritoville)

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

don't make me post that authentic napkin again

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

it's AUTHENTIC MEXICANS-IN-MANHATTAN-MANAGED-BY-METROSEXUAL food, not Mexican food.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

Mexrosexual

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

Hey how come so many Mexican food delivery guys wear black metal tshirts?

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

c/d mexican food guilt?!?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

sometimes i feel those mexicans will revolt and there will be burritoville-hell-to-pay

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

Hey how come so many Mexican food delivery guys wear black metal tshirts?

duh because they're Slayer fans, bro.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

cutty did they have the new Voice in yet? Otherwise it's felafel cart for me today.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

i move that we have a taco/belmont party at hstencil's house on saturday.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i believe the new voice was there.

can you please tell me more about this falafel cart?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

there are a couple veggie felafel carts in Liberty Plaza (y'know, where all the trees got ashed-up on 9/11) across the way from that one Mies-ish building with the Brooks Brothers store. Their felafel sammiches and combo platters are awesome, and are all very cheap. If it's a nice day, it's fun to sit on those steps and eat your felafel while watching dumb investment bankers/dumb tourists, or take it over to Trinity Church graveyard and drip some tahini on Alexander Hamilton's grave or something.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

lauren what if we make tacos and bring 'em to the track Saturday?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

lauren old el paso is actually all over the shelves here! there are very few actual tex-mex restaurants, as you probably kno - not enough real Americanos around i guess - but i think britain's finally going to figure it out. it's harder to fuck up than pizza is. Anyway I can't tell you how annoyed I am that I am going to miss something called a "taco party" but i will be there in spirit, of that you can be sure.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

DON CAB OWNZZZ!!!!

― ddb, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

stence: one day we shall drip tahini together on hamilton's grave

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

OH THERE HE IS

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

taco party > sausage party

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

i thought you didn't like sausages.. liar

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago) link

I DON'T! SINCE WHEN DOES ">" not equal GREATER THAN, Mr. I-work-around-Wall-Street?!?!?!?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

also c'mon man do you not get my joke "taco" heh heh "sausage" heh heh nudge nudge wink wink say no more?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.wahoos.com/images/Wahoos-oval.gif

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

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― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

WHAT ABOUT THE TACO PARTY, JOEL? STOP FLIRTING WITH CUTTY AND FOCUS!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

i'm hungry

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

I wanna see Smarty win in person, lauren! I want to be able to tell my grandkids I saw a Triple Crown winner!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder if Bloomberg will get booed as bad as he did the year Funny Cide tried.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

given the amount of OTB-heads and track-goers that are chronic smokers, I'd say YES!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

you can throw chipotles at him

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

that'd be making better use of any chipotle Belmont Park's shitty food service could make, that's for sure.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

The thread's already changed, but:
I went to Jammyland two weeks ago after hearing some live unreleased Studio 1 recordings on WNYU- called the DJ, he said if you go in and ask, they'll burn/sell you a copy. No big deal.
I go there and ask, the guy looks right through me, and tells me he doesn't know what I'm talking about, that they don't have anything like that. I tell him the "DJ said to ask", hoping that might be some sort of code phrase to release the cd, and nothing. I couldn't even browse at that point, the guy pissed me off....
(to get back on the off topic)- maybe I should have offered him a burrito.

― mclaugh (mclaugh), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

chipotle bomb!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

naw dude for Studio 1 you need to eat some GOLDEN KRUST - THE OFFICIAL CARIBBEAN PARTY FOOD ENDORSED BY TIKI BARBER!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

reason #243 why i love hstencil: his aim away message is "wastin' away again in burritoville."

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

the patties at the uptown juice bar on church street piss on golden krust.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

wednesday - cow foot

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

I remember Adult Crash closing down becaused the couple than ran it had their apartment burn down and they split for the coast.

― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

i really, really miss the uptown juice bar. pumpkin rotis!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

mmmm rotis mmmm jamaican beef patties

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago) link

west indian is the new indian

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

the best thing about the nyc school lunch program was that those patties were on the menu ALL THE TIME

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

the aforementioned grilled chicken planet does fried plantains BRILLIANTLY

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

I totally forgot to tear out that Timeout NY thing on the best burritos in NY.

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

then there's the pakistani tea house... i wish i still worked way downtown.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

OH MY THE PAKISTANI TEA HOUSE

i used to eat there EVERY day until it burned a hole in my rectum

vegetable special $4 w/ NAAN and the surliest pakistani woman you ever met

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

PUNJABI

― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

that lady is unfriendly. my friend always wanted his meal without rice, which drove her bonkers for some reason.
staff at uptown juice bar are even more unfriendly, but i forgive them because they fed me cheap breakfast and lunch for several years.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

today's BURRITOVILLE SCENE REPORT:

cutty YOU ARE A LIAR! There were no new Voices in the joint, much less old ones. Somehow I knew this would be the case but I went anyway.

Good ol' standby Border Burrito and Coke, to stay, $7.06. I think the B'ville homiez hate me now or something, they keep trying to give me my burrito in a to-go bag. And my tortilla ripped, but still a good lunch was had.

Is there no more thankless Burritoville job than having to transfer the chips from one basket with paper to another? Aside from cleaning the bathrooms, that is.

Today's music was pretty fast salsa-y sounding stuff (um Rockit Scientist to thread? I don't know shit about latin music unfortunately and that should change), didn't seem too Mexican to me (and definitely not tejano by any stretch of the imagination) but at least it wasn't handbag house. Scarface playing yet again, so an Italian-American playing a Cuban refugee adds to the cultural mix.

No Voice as mentioned before so I went by the PERV PALACE and got a fresh NY Press (this week's issue: PEAK OIL! can't wait to read that one). Dollar book guy on Ann Street had The Pentagon Papers so I shelled out. Lamest thing seen on the way back: ghey-ass Jimmy Eat World t-shirt with ol' Nintendo controller. Coolest thing on the way back: young mother in graduation robes and younger daughter, smiling and talking about the churchbells while strolling down Rector Street.

Estimated time to soy-bomb: T-minus 20 minutes.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:43 (twenty years ago) link

dude.. there SOOOOO voices there at 12.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

there were SO. voices. there at 12.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

dude the WINSLOW HOMER HOMAGE was LAST WEEK, brody.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

you just wanted me to check up on your mamacita for you, admit it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

you poor thing. you've been forced into the std boutique twice now!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago) link

hahaha I had to avoid one PERV going in and another PERV going out (not with each other) in my mad shitty-alt-weekly dash!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

she looked good today, didn't she?

she got some junk in the trunk, from burritoville no doubt.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

dude don't think I'm usurping, I got my own girl.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:56 (twenty years ago) link

reason #116 why i love hstencil: he's an nyc-dwelling vegetarian who has never been to kate's joint or punjabi.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

once they open branches in Brooklyn, I'm there.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

i like hstencil's "i don't GO to manhattan" attitude.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

fuck it, i'm with him. i only go to manhattan to go to work.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

dude if I could telecommute I'd only eat Castro's burritos.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

Kate's Tofu Buffalo Wings DESTROY anything Burritoville has ever made.

and thats my word.

― ddb, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

manhattan can be beautiful. i'd be sad to leave it. HOWEVER. if someone wants to buy me a house on milton street in greenpoint, then i'd be really psyched.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link

OMG kate's unbuffalo wings. maybe i'll have those for dinner.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

ddb: 3 words

THAI CHICKEN WRAP

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

ddb is a LAMER with NO NOISE SCENE CRED who will SELL OUT TO MANHATTAN non-shocker!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

Also Kate's unturkey club = delish.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

Burritos? In Manhattan? Is there a Mexican community in Manhattan now?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

uh oh.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

a rather large one.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:43 (twenty years ago) link

Don't patronize Kim's. The owner, Youngman Kim, is a crook and a lowlife.

― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

There's a crazy Mexican nightclub on University Place just upstairs from El Cantinero. I've been there a few times, but have never felt like such an unwelcome Gringo in my life.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago) link

While legal flows directly from Mexico to the city have been relatively small, the Mexican population in the city has grown dramatically, primarily through very high fertility and through internal migration — flows originating in other parts of the U.S. Between 1990 and 1996, there were nearly 29,000 births to Mexican-born mothers, or over three percent of all births in the city. Among foreign-born mothers, births to Mexicans were exceeded by only Dominicans and Jamaicans. Current estimates prepared by the Population Division place New York City's Mexican population in the range of 200,000 persons, making it the third largest Hispanic group in the city, after Puerto Ricans and Dominicans.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/about/pr110899.html

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago) link

if someone wants to buy me a house on milton street in greenpoint, then i'd be really psyched.

you just want easy access to tommy's.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

fascinating. Never would've guessed. One of my NY friends (who's visiting us right now) always takes cans of refried beans with her on her flight back to NY cuz she insists she can't get decent ones out there. So I got the impression it was slim pickens in NYC...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

has your friend ever been to Sunset Park or Sunnyside or what?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, I've been obsessed with the Kate's unturkey club for many years.
And I second not liking a certain east village record store near Kate's (rhymes with 'diphtheria'), to go back to the record store thread for just a moment.

― queenbee (queenbee), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

tell your friend burritoville will substitute refried beans for red beans in ANY burrito

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

his friend should ask the Burritoville workers if they're Mexican while ordering.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

beats me - I find the geography of NY bewildering (just like LA!). She lives in Brooklyn. She does a lot of stuff w/the Madagascar Institute. That's about all the helpful info I can provide...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

oh god one of those people.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

what is the deal with milton street, anyway? i discovered it when i was walking around killing time last weekend. it's like the most gorgeous street ever! there are houses with arts-and-crafts style stained-glass windows, and houses with big cut-glass chandeliers and grandfather clocks and weird portraits in the parlor, and huge old-growth trees and stuff. i'm kind of thinking that it was a mirage brought by one too many vodka-lemonades.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

IT IS REAL AND I HAVE BEEN IN THEIR WOOD-PANELED BASEMENT ROMPUS ROOMS.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

Christina's pierogies = the exact OPPOSITE effect of the META-MEGA-SOY

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

yeah well, my friends don't like you either!

or something.

I'm gonna go eat me a REAL burrito made by REAL mexicans! NYAH!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

I just ate a FAKE burrito made by FAUXICANS!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

you can't fake these bowel movements.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

I am so moving to Fauxica.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

Shakey Mo do you like BURNING MAN?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

or HACKY SACK

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

H, where is Christina's?

i've got MAD LOVE for the Polskies

― ddb, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

MANHATTAN AVENUE, SO YOU SHOULD LIKE IT WELL ENOUGH BROOKLYN-HATER.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

I actually go to the one with the name I can't pronounce on Manhattan 'round the corner from Nassau more often, though.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

the one with the wooden benches?

― ddb, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

no, that's the one on Nassau, but it's good too. Free weird fruit juice! Although I think their pierogies aren't as good as the unpronounceable place, they're not bad. Potato pancakes are more their specialty.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

i think we need I Love Fooding

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

Who's down for a Brooklyn FAP?

FAP = Fancy A-lota Pierogies

― ddb, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link

that's like every day for me, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

Would that be the unpronounceable place with the unbeatable prices and the grandma's kitchen feel?

― danh, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, complete with earringed dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.chowhound.com/

― danh, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

WOW THAT IS I LOVE FOOD FOR REAL

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

yes, chowhound is very serious. i used to argue with people about vegan food a lot. their archives are a good resource.
j., are you talking about polska restaurajce or however it's spelled? that place is mmmmmmmmmmm.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

who is meeting me on nassau ave for pierogies at 5:30

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

all I know is the dude has the best earring ever.

xpost - I think I'm staying in Clinton Hill tonight. Anyone up for plaintains?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago) link

I am jealous of all this food talk. Although I've mentioned the conundrum of how there isn't REAL Mexican food out of Southern Cali-- *is brutally killed by Stockholm C*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

i have to go to wmsburg tonight. maybe i should go via greenpoint.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:51 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.profiboksz.hu/genesis/portrek/braxton.jpg

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

DEAN'IZEE YOU DONE IT AGAIN...HOLLA AT CHA BOY

― ddb, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

I am jealous of all this food talk. Although I've mentioned the conundrum of how there isn't REAL Mexican food out of Southern Cali-- *is brutally killed by Stockholm C*

i know rite. i went to new mexico and all i wanted was SOME RIBS.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

i was wondering when dean was going to show up

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

i'm really hungry now.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

WONDER NO MORE FOR I HAVE ARRIVED WITH DWIGHT "BATTLES" BRAXTON IN TOW

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

No entry found for asshattery.

― duke dictionare, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

the only way you might get to W'burg via Greenpoint from Manhattan is what I call the "Spalding Grey method" ie. East River style.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

zing.

i was thinking of taking the l to lorimer street and then switching to the g for two stops, then walking back up manhattan avenue.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

it's nicer (and sometimes quicker) to get off at Bedford, than walk through McCarren Park to watch baseball, drunk Polish guys, hipster girls sunbathing, etc.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

but you know this obv. I am dumb sometimes.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

don't you people ever take the bus?

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

B61 doesn't go across the W'burg bridge.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

Burning Man is fun, hacky-sack is retarded. Here in San Francisco we have two restaurants per resident = double NYAH

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

I hear there's a new Slanted Door recently opened.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't know - the original is too pricey-y and popular and far away for me so I've only eaten there once. If I can't walk or take the bus to it then fuck it, they don't need me eating there. Schwantz's wife's restaurant Incanto is probably the highest-end eatery I frequent (along with the James Baker and the Fremont Group, apparently)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

I've only eaten there once, but I didn't pay for it. Ask gygax! about it sometime (he didn't pay for it either).

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link

oh wait, I'm confusing the Slanted Door with House (which actually has a slanted door and windows, but never mind...) Don't eat at House. I hear they serve Crap.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

didn't read this whole thread but...

the basement of Generation is not bad for used vinyl. especially since most of your competitors are shopping at Kims and Other.

ok back to food or something.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

"the basement of Generation is not bad for used vinyl. especially since most of your competitors are shopping at Kims and Other."

Dan! Why??? the expected mythologizing of stores since past was happening, as was the offense at those still going, and my favorite, generation, had even been referred to disparagingly. now you have to go and trump with truth! it has no place on here! no place!

― duke damn, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

when I was in NY I was totally surprised at how tiny the record stores I saw were. Everything was like a single 15'x15' specialty store. Very strange.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago) link

I meant to say "of course if you go to Generation you're a loser alternative teen punk and they only carry bad 90s punk records..."

Shakey, NYC real-estate prices are kind of ridiculous.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

damn you all for making NYC sound even more everyday-mecca-ish than it already was + generating a memory-flood!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

Shakey, NYC real-estate prices are kind of ridiculous.

hahahahaha as opposed to San Francisco, which has Amoeba.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 02:21 (twenty years ago) link

doesn't NY have any old bowling alleys it can convert into independepent record stores?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

no, we're still using them as bowling alleys. Which is better than Chicago, which converts them into shitty punk rock dives.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

you live in a palace while I live above a bowling alley...and below another bowling alley

I don't know anything about san francisco or the history of amoeba, but there's no way anyone within the last 10 years could even have dreamed of opening a sizable record store in any decent part of manhattan. And if they did, they'd either be forced out by raising rents, or bought out at great profit when their building's value skyrocketed.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago) link

Amoeba opened in SF pre-dot com bust, right?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

it opened a couple years after I moved here - '99 or 2000...? Right in the middle of the dot-com insanity, tho the bowling alley itself had already been closed for a couple years I think.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

I hope they were able to negotiate better rent after the bust.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know the story of their lease, I suppose it's possible they bought the building outright...? But by any measure retail space on Haight Street is suuuuuper-pricey, and has only gotten more boutique-ier and more upscale as time goes on. I know space isn't as expensive in SF as it is in NY, but I'm sure it's pretty close. Seems like we're always getting ranked as one of the most expensive places in the country to live (on the other hand we have clean air, modest traffic, etc. so it's worth it)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

but back to New York... (I swear I had a great time when I was there, considering most of it was spent drunk in a Santa suit)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

we in nyc have modest air and clean traffic

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

clean air, modest traffic

dude have you ever tried to drive in San Francisco?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

I was just driving around a rental car last weekend. Maybe I should've qualified "modest traffic" with "anywhere besides downtown"...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

amoeba opened their (retail selling floor square feet = 20k) haight street location in 1997, right about the beginning of the dotcom boom and (these are my thoughts) before any real huge increase in commercial real estate the upper haight-ashbury. the rock and bowl had been closed approx. 3-4 months prior to any renovations for amoeba took place.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

getting out of SF on weekday afternoon last summer = hell on earth, pretty much

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

I moved here in '96, for some reason I thought there was a longer gap between me gettin here and it opening. I do remember moving into Haight/Ashbury and being bummed that the Rock n Bowl was closed. (that didn't last long)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

there is plenty of traffic besides downtown in SF: try the Golden Gate Bridge approach, 19th avenue, gough/franklin, fell/oak, etc.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

pffft - compared to what I've seen in NY, Chicago, and (of course the absolute worst) LA that's nuthin.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

and bad traffic on Fell/Oak...? If you go 40 miles an hour you get nothin but green lights!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

check it during rush hour, friend.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

people who don't work or commute outside of the large cities they live in usually have no conception of what rush hour is.

im sure half of new york city has no idea what the midtown tunnel/LIE looks like on the queens side at 5PM.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

aiiiieeee I am so glad I don't have to commute in/out to L.I.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

it's funny that SO MANY people live on this island and really have no idea what goes on outside of it

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago) link

good god almighty. that traffic is horrific.

so, did any have a burrito for lunch? i had mapo tofu.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

i walked into GOLDEN KRUST... then quickly walked out. but they had some sick glitchy dub music playing.

i had an avocado veggie sandwich. that mega soy from yesterday had me yearning for regularity.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

you should walk into the uptown juice bar on church street for all of your vegan carribean food needs.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

the uptown juice bar is downtown?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

that's what hstencil said. it's an offshoot of a place that's in harlem, and they didn't bother to rename it. i used to eat there all of the time, sometimes twice a day: porridge or carrot cake for breakfast and pumpkin roti or bbq roast with collard greens for lunch. staff is rude, but it's cheap and delish.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link

and the best veggie burgers ever.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

actually, i think i have eaten there. yellow sign?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

I had overpriced sushi and seaweed salad from the place next door as I'm too busy to get bombed today.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

yes. linoleum heavy decor.

xpost

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

I'm about to go to lunch here in SF - probably indian food buffet at Royal Taj since this will be my one big meal of the day. Best lunch w/in walking distance is probably House of Nanking but I don't feel like Chinese today.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:21 (twenty years ago) link

I can't fathom having Indian for lunch! Hope your office windows are open.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago) link

ah, I eat it all the time - thalis are cheap and it's a lot of food.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...

5% of thread = record stores
10% = zings
85% = burrito discussion

ABOUT AVERAGE PAR

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 29 June 2006 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

― calstars, Sunday, 27 November 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link

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