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― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

We should never start a new topic. I only load the unread replies anyway, let it get to 10,000 posts.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. I like both the thread title and the choice of introductory photograph.

More words I have used in this paper, apparently written by "BIZARRO JENNY": Capitalism paradigm. Ghettoizing.

Also: This is the mouse we caught earlier:

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― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I think if we keep one Chicago thread forever, this would be a good one. Also, maybe we will irritate other ILXors less if we keep using our threads longer. Just a thought.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great mouse photo.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

It was a great mouse. I named him Mr. Mouskewitz and then Jeff let him go in the dumpster outside.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

OMFG we caught another one!

The cats aren't so good as mouse catchers, but they make excellent mouse detectors. They're like pointers. You just look in the spot where they are staring intently and VOILA! Mini-mouse.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

mouse!!
haha, i know - if cats are staring at some spot, like a kitchen cabinet, there's guaranteed to be a mouse (or big spider) there. i can't believe you're catching them!

(oh, btw jenny, that lawyer joke you made in the previous thread about labour lawyers saying the word 'fuck' like smurfs say 'smurf' made me laugh a lot. and i don't even know any labour lawyers. so xpost but whatevs. it also makes me think i'd be a good labour lawyer.)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jenny, I have a good friend who works for lab. lawyers in that building downtown with the church on the ground floor - do you know folks there?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

The only building I know of with a church on the ground floor is where I go to school. But that's a school, not a labor law firm. I guess the answer is: I don't know!

BUT HEY GUESS WHAT??? 15 pages, 3,791 words and I AM DONE. Well, I have one more exam to do this weekend, but this was ze biggie. Now I'm going to go enjoy my precious six hours of sleep and not think about the zombie I am going to be tomorrow.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like people have been talking about Paul Simon a lot lately, so yesterday when I was driving home I decided I would try and write a song in a Paul Simon style, and I was making it up in my head and I could hear how it sounded kind of Graceland-y, but then when I actually picked up the guitar and tried to play it, it sounded like Green Day. But it's still kind of fun, so whatever. Also, I bought my mom the new Paul Simon (and the Jenny Lewis solo album) for Mother's Day. Maybe she'll let me listen to it next time I'm home.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 May 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

HAPPPPPPPPY BIRRRRRRRRRRRTHDAY JESSE!!!!!!!!!!11

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

RAR I am a ZOMBIE BRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrraaaAAAiiii!!!!NNNNNNNNNNSssssssssss

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

Thanks, Jenny.

Did anyone notice this contribution by our pal JW? Chicago:This Is Grand (NSFW). The penispallooza pic features a very cute back side.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hey everyone!

Great mouse!!

Happy Birthday, Jesse!

Also: Paul Simon was on NPR the other day b/c of his new album. He collaborated with Brian Eno. This is probably old news to you.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

I got my new (used) Diamanda Galas CD in the mail today! (Vena Cava)

I'm settling in with a cup of chamomile tea, the oven is on medium and Diamanda is a'screechin' and a'keenin'.

It occurred to me after I wrote this that it sounded like I had the oven on in order to commit suicide or in order to bake something. Neither is the case.

I have the oven on because IT IS 39 DEGREES and my A/C unit is only partially installed and it lets in a lot of 39 degree air. It only takes about 15 minutes on 500 to heat most of the apartment and then I leave it on 300 to maintain for a while.

The oven is on now.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

god i hate mouse infestation. we had to move from an apartment in oak park because the place was being over-run by them. the jack-ass landlord was so cheap he'd only pay an exterminator to come in and do one side of the 6-flat at a time so the mice would just migrate from one side of the building to the other.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind mice that much. Roaches are another story. Brenda W. caught 1 mouse once and when I got home from work she bolted to me carrying it. It was very touching and I gave her big treats.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

the thing about our apartment was that it was being over-run. it wasn't just a mouse or two, there were LOTS of them. our downstairs neighbor knocked on our door one day and asked if we'd seen any mice, jen said we'd seen a couple. the neighbor said she'd killed 13 that day. with a hammer. the boldest mouse was living in our spice rack.

we had a friend who turned on her broiler one day and a couple minutes later smelled burning hair. sure enough there had been a mouse living in the bottom of her stove. that would've freaked me out.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hola, Chicago. We had teeny mice. I sort of liked them, really, and I'll take them twice on Sundays over roaches or palmetto bugs even though I know mice are actually more destructive. They're so much less fucking disgusting. I mean, THEY'RE MAMMALS who lack one (1) chitinous exoskeleton -- how bad can they be?? Jenny, that's such a good little photo.

Killing mice with hammer = ACK ACK :((((( I don't mind when cats kill them, it seems like the proper sequence of events.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

OK, that's bad.

Jenny, that mouse is fucking adorable.

I found mouse poop a while back and set traps (which I have a fear of) and caught nothing.

Did You Know?

- In 4th grade my father and I took a trapping class provided by a northern Minnesota community college? I learned all about various traps and snares including the deadly connabair.

Now you know.

These days I would have a problem killing a mouse with a hammer.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

the hammer wielding neighbor was weird. she had some rage issues. i know she was unhappy being in the u.s., i'm not sure exactly where she was from but she spoke with a heavy accent that made it hard to decipher exactly what she was saying. her husband was from italy and taught philosophy at NIU. i remember when she got pregnant she went back to europe because she didn't want her kids having american citizenship. she would scream all the time. we could TOTALLY picture her relishing exterminating the mice with a 16 oz. ball peen hammer.

i didn't really mind the mice either. we moved all our dry goods in the pantry into air-tight plastic containers. but when they found there way into the sweaters jen had put away for the summer and tore those up they weren't so fun anymore. when i came home one day and found mouse shit on my turntable i made it my mission to kill as many of them as i could. i would've poisoned everything in that place if it weren't for our chihuahua.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. I like both the thread title and the choice of introductory photograph. Also, I think if we keep one Chicago thread forever, this would be a good one.

Apologies if this sounds immodest, but thanks, I agree; I was pleased.

BUUUUUUT....When I posted this I did not have the option to allow only registered users to post here. The option was not there. (Why?) So I am not entirely happy with this.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

As Jeff was chasing Mr. M around with a measure cup and a spoon full of peanutbutter, I made a comment about setting traps and Jeff said, "It would be a crime against nature to kill this little guy." AWWWWW!!! At the time, the mouse was snuggled in some wires and just his little sniffer was poking out.

I am going to call our landlord today, though. I mean, our laundry machines have been broken for months and now we have mice (albeit cute ones)? Unacceptable for the amount of rent that we pay.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

No, literally, A CRIME AGAINST NATURE.

When I was takng the trash out last night a squirrel jumped out of one of the big bins, scared the fuck out of me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a little bit afraid to ask how much rent you pay. How many bedrooms?

GRRRRR squirrel(s) have been digging up my potted plants -- I have no idea what they expect to find besides potting soil and spearmint roots.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

It's a big one bedroom that has a sunroom and a dining room. Our rent is some weird number, I think $1125. It's not outrageous (at least not by NY standards, I am sure) for the location and ameneties, but it's too much to put up with any crap from the landlord.

Then again, I'm not one to put up with much crap from any landlord.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

In point of fact, I am not that fond of butter. I know that I negelected to mention it before. But in these final moments, I feel that I am obliged to tell you the truth. I can no longer live with the anxiety that secret caused me. TELL THAT BITCH TO SHUT UP OR I'LL BREAK HER MOTHERFUCKING ASS.

From Vena Cava.

A lot of this album is from the perspective of one suffering from psychosis that comes in the final stages of AIDS. This part made me howl with laugther, as D.G. howled with kookiness.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Laurel, maybe try putting cayenne pepper in the soil of your plants to keep the squirells away. I just read about that in Ready Made magazine.

ONCE when I lived in Atlanta? I was taking a bag of garbage out behind my apartment building and a DUDE jumped out of the dumpster. I nearly shat myself. I said, "I'M SORRY!!!" because, dang, I always threw a bag of trash on him. Then I gave him $5, because he lived in my damn dumpster.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Note: He was about as crazy as D.G., or at least he made roughly as much sense. He also howled and keened a fair amount.

Maybe it WAS Diamanda Galas...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Last night I was cooking myself dinner and I forgot that I had D.G. playing in the other room b/c for about 5 min the track was inaudible b/c she was whispering. But then old girl scared the living shit out of me as she began some guttural "GLORYGLORYGLORYLGORY getawayfrommewiththatneedle." The distinct lack of reverb made it sound like someone was in the next room.

A few minutes laster it happened again--whispering, forgetting, grunting. I had to turn it off.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, I'll buy a big can of cayenne on the way home. Is it stupid predictable to like ReadyMade? Because dude, they hit my demographic fair and square with that one and I'm woman enough to admit it.

I used to know someone who was a sound engineer and worked with DG. I didn't understand at the time why everyone found that so impressive/amusing, but then I didn't know about the cow's blood, either.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

When I first moved into my apartment in chicago, there was a woman who would 'bathe' inbetween our building & the neighboring one. she had a shopping cart with her & kept shifting her clothes around, as to not be fully exposed. it was kind of weird.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

laurel, garlic might work too. i can't remember the exact details though, so go with the cayenne. and yeah, i like ReadyMade too.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

They spent all last year digging up my chives, so I don't know if I trust garlic (I know onions are DIFFERENT FROM garlic but they seem related, y'know?) -- but the oil in cayenne could burn their hands and eyes, so it makes sense.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm growing chives this year. apparently we have an herb and spice garden in our backyard.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have a subscription to Ready Made! Although I just got my last issue and I'm not going to renew because basically all it does is remind me that I don't have time to do anything fun.

Okay, I just called my landlord and got in a fight with him. What a douche! Here's the story: "someone" is vandalizing our washing machines. He thinks it's someone with a key. He also thinks this is a "ring" of laundry vandalizers who are operating in Andersonville and Rogers Park. He kept pointing out that he has fixed them four times, at great expense.

"Why don't you just change the locks?" I asked, reasonably.

"Then I would have to redistribute keys," he said.

I asked him if that wouldn't be cheaper than having to keep repairing the washers and installing surveillance cameras and he said, "Then I would be redistributing the key to the vandals."

????

"You mean," I asked, "you think that the person running a laundry vandalism ring in Andersonville and Rogers park lives in our building?"

He said something about it being a conspiracy. For Christ's sake. Then he told me that I wasn't paying rent for the laundry facilities, I was paying rent for an apartment and the laundry was just an "amenity," i.e. a freebie, clearly not realizing that I HAVE NEARLY MEMORIZED the Chicago landlord tenant code.

What a fucking jackass.

I want to move, but seriously, is there a landlord in this world anywhere who ISN'T a total douchebag? I certainly haven't found him or her, if there is.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, that would have startled me more than squirrel, I think. I've had a thing about people jumping out of dumpsters ever since Mulholland Drive.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

my landlords in chicago were great! you should get their number (i can email it to you) & use brooke & i as a reference & ask if they have any available buildings in the area. they own a few in town, i think.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Donald Fagen album is much darker than I had noticed on first listen. Which I like.

Also: The Story Of Them featuring Van Morrison rocks my iPod.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Kelsey, please do! I am pretty irritated with this dude.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

...is there a landlord in this world anywhere who ISN'T a total douchebag

If so, he doesn't live at my house. Mine would be cool as a casual friend but his coping/life skills just aren't there and unfortunately MY health and happiness depends on HIS mental stability to a certain extent. Also his financial management skills. I wonder how far behind the mortgage payments are now, because I think after three months they start proceedings to take the property.............!!!!!!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

hooray!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Have any of you seen the 1934 version of Imitation of Life (as opposed to the Sirk version)? I watched it last night cuddled on the couch with my tater tots. Everyone has been chirping about racism this week and seeing how much things had changed in the last 73 years was quite shocking. Also, Fredi Washington was sooooooooo pretty.
http://www.aaregistry.com/eimage/FrediWashington.gif

(Sorry to change the subject -- I just signed on after a long convo with the work peeps.)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I emailed you & Jeff both, Jenny. Good luck!!!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Landlords I have known:

The dude who got into a motorcycle accident and suffered a grievous head injury and would let himself into my apartment and be there staring at nothing when I got home. Also, I more than once shut the door in his face while he was talking (gently! I didn't slam it, it was more like, "Okay, thanks Richard you bet I'll talk to you soon take care now thanksforstoppingbyIgottagoseeya *shut*) because his head injury apparently made him unable to exit a social situation, ever.

Norlord, the guy who lived below me in the same building and had a cherry picker truck in the back yard and he'd get drunk and play with chainsaws and hang out in the driveway in his bathrobe drinking "martinis" which was nothing more than gin in a coffee cup.

This bitch in NC who let us live without heat for two weeks because she sent someone over to look at the furnace and the pilot light was on so she had no idea what was wrong. She also refused to fix a basement window that was broken and permitting wild animals and neighborhood cats to get into our house because she was sure a person couldn't fit through. She also said that the leaking pipes under the kitchen sink were our fault because we "bumped into them."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

You should also know that I cried at the end of this movie, just like I was supposed to.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I have not seen that movie, but I would like to. It's about a black woman who passes as white, isn't it? And yes, she is beautiful but I have a crush on almost every starlet who got a headshot between 1927 and 1948.

Also, weep for the wee mousies. The landlord is calling terminex. :(

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

tom cruise is on ellen right now.

did i mention i am so glad i didn't get a temp call today? nearly all week i've been at this alternative learning center (read: high school for teen moms/at risk youth) & while i can see myself working in an environment like that as a professional, as a 'knows nothing front desk lady' it sucked. also: being around teens = exhausting.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

So that's where you've been! That does sound exhausting. Carl says hi.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

amanda, i just added that movie to our netflix! yay! it sounds lovely.

oh, carl!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also, yes, that's the movie -- but I think the Sirk version is really different and I don't think it has the pancake factory/Aunt Jemima theme but I could be wrong about that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

want to move, but seriously, is there a landlord in this world anywhere who ISN'T a total douchebag?

my current one isn't bad, she's nuts but a nice lady. my previous landlord kinda sucked, never got around to fixing things that were supposed to be fixed before i moved in. he also wouldn't do any preventative maintenance. like my upstairs neighbor told him it looked like the brick near the roof line was crumbling and he didn't do anything about it for 7 months. until the brick actually fell off the building and smashed through the window of the basement apartment. plus he put a padlock on the basement storage area. since he never got around to issuing me a storage space so i didn't really mind until i blew a fuse in my kitchen and realized the circuit box was in the storage space. helllloooooooo bolt cutters. the dude before that was cool, he was very responsive when he was around which was almost never. he was a trustfunder who was out of the country most of the time leaving the everyday upkeep to monica, our across the hall neighbor. she was usually at her boyfriend's apartment and refused to give tenants her cell number. she was a real treat. dude before that was the tightwad jaghole who had the place with the mouse problem. he only managed that building, he owned a couple others that took up most of his time.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, every Easter for the last two years our dining room ceiling has leaked all over Jeff's computer, which doesn't seem to bother anyone, and they have yet to turn off all the radiators. WTF???

Someday we'll buy a condo and that will truly be grand. Unless we end up in a building with a bunch of bungholes. *sigh*

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Wee, sleeket, cowran, tim'rous beastie,
O, what panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi' bickering brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
Wi' murd'ring pattle!

I'm truly sorry Man's dominion
Has broken Nature's social union,
An' justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle,
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion,
An' fellow-mortal!
. . . .

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, your landlords, OMG.

We finished Munich last night and then watched the Poseidon Adventure. HACKMAN: ASSHOLE PRIEST!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Unless we end up in a building with a bunch of bungholes. *sigh*
That's us. It's slow goin', but it's the nicest place we could afford.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Laurel! That poem makes me sad!

I thought you rented, Amander. I'm sorry your neighbors are bungholes, but your pad is lovely. My friend Rachel has a condo on Jarvis and Broadway, just a block from the train station and two blocks from you. I like RP. I'd totally live there.

Also, have you seen this website: morsehellhole.blogspot.com

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone tempted to buy, like, one of the Chicago bungalows and take on the whole homeowner thing? Or are those too far out into the suburbs?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

The poem's much longer, Jenny, and contains the line "the best laid plans of mice and men / gang aft agley", which is obv a classic.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone tempted to buy, like, one of the Chicago bungalows and take on the whole homeowner thing?

this is my dream but beyond my means.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

anyone care to meet up before the game tomorrow for a beverage?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and it looks like my friend is bailing on me because him & his wife have people visiting this weekend. so there may be a ticket up for grabs if the person i offered it to doesn't bite.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, what does the landlord tenant code say about "amenities"? Amenity does not mean "something extra we threw in b/c we're benevolent." It means "something nice that is part of the reason you are renting the place." What's next? The dishwasher doesn't get fixed b/c it's an amenity? Door buzzer?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

anyone care to meet up before the game tomorrow for a beverage?

I don't think any of have made plans to meet each other in any capacity. We need to do that. Are we meeting at someone's house? Some other special place?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to pick up my new glasses today, which will sit upon my face for the next two or so years! Very exciting.

And I might indulge and get some Popeye's for lunch while I'm over there.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think I am speaking for Jeff here, too, because we have talked about this, but neither one of us are the least bit interested in owning a yard. We'd both be thrilled to never cut grass again - it's like we were genetically engineered condo owners. Plus, we're both utterly inept at major home repair and I have a feeling that owning an entire home to ourselves would plunge us into a vicious cycle of repairs from which we would never espace. Plus, the thought of spending my weekends sanding a deck or weeding a garden or cleaning gutters fills me with dread. I'd rather let my condo fees take care of it while I go to the movies or something.

Aside from that, those bungalows are EXPENSIVE. If you want to buy a freestanding house in Chicago, you need to get thee out to a suburb or buy a crooked house in a "developing" neighborhood.

My dream is to own a share of a nice sunny three to six flat co-op. With laundry hookups IN OUR condo. And lawn maintenance.

xpost to Jesse - right. You are right! Our landlord is wrong and is banking on the fact that nobody would bother to read/be aware of the law. It's basic contract stuff.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am so fucking wordy today. It's like I'm coming down off the high of writing this giant paper and I can't shut up. Or like I'm a landlord with a head injury.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

How can you be thinking about lunch at barely 10 am, ,Jordan?? My bagel + bacon hasn't even settled yet.

Haha, I suspect I ALREADY live in a "developing neighborhood."

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, the thought of spending my weekends sanding a deck or weeding a garden or cleaning gutters fills me with dread. I'd rather let my condo fees take care of it while I go to the movies or something.

except for the weeding of the garden which i would never do because i would never have one, i would relish the sanding and the cleaning of gutters. and having a basement workshop. or a pool table. or better yet, basement bar.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

my plan is to buy a condo in just such a "developing neighborhood" (mostly likely humboldt park or logan square west of kedzie or south of the blvd) in 18 months or so. but i would love to own my own house. have a yard for bbq's or wiffle ball. or just for sitting out there in the summer.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Foreplay starts in the mind, Laurel.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Foreplay starts in the mind, Laurel.

what are you a jedi or something?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have some friends, who are generally okay people, who bought a house in a "developing neighborhood" and who were sincerely excited when they saw a white person jogging one morning. This made me a little sad.

I struggle with the whole gentrification issue, because honestly, Jeff and I are going to be priced right out of the housing market unless we buy a condo in a "developing neighborhood" ourselves, and we're white as hell and I'm going to be a lawyer and Jeff's going to be a college professor and holy shit, we are like living seeds of gentrification except that I don't WANT a Starbucks or even a non-ethnic grocery store. I just don't want to have to battle with my landlord over leaks and broken washers and mice. But just our presence as white people is going to have an impact on the neighborhood, you know? It's something I seriously lose sleep over some nights.

MEIN GOTT SHUT ME UP.

xpost: Kevin, I want you to have a yard for BBQing, and little chihuahua dog, and then I will come over and play with it and eat hamburgers off the grill.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

i miss my dog so much. if i ever have a yard you are all more than welcome to come over and eat hamburgers and hot dogs and various poultry and kabobs and veggies from the grill. and there will be beer, yea, there will be beer.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Did I say foreplay? I meant appetite.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

So, Kevin, I have read that chis need to be very aggressively socialized and acclimated to people when they are puppies or else they tend to get snappy and grumpy around all but the individual humans to whom they have become attached. Is this true? Because when (NOT IF WHEN) you get your little dog, I would like to offer my dog socialization services.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Maaan, to have a workshop!! Only problem is I could NEVER afford to stock it with tools like I'm used to, and certainly not with the super heavy duty ones like my dad inherited: table saw, jigsaw, drill press, grinder, compressor, full sets of chisels, etc. Shit from Sears just doesn't cut it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

that I don't WANT a Starbucks or even a non-ethnic grocery store

sounds like the ukie village to me. when i first moved here i couldn't buy anything at the corner store that didn't have a picture of the product on the package. all the writing was in some cyrillic language. if i brought a can home i'd have no way of knowing if it was soup or dog food until i opened it. it was kind of like being on vacation 7 days a week. but i could never afford to live here. nor can i really afford east humboldt park, i'll probably have to settle for something around west of the park which is, as i type this right now, still a ghetto. there are still some places in logan square that are affordable but probably won't be by the time i have money to buy.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, owning a freestanding home anywhere near Chicago requires far more $$$ than I will probably ever have. We could get a nice house in Iowa I bet, but then we would have to live in Iowa and that doesn't sound very appealing. I would like a little workshop too. And a yard with garden. Vegetables AND flowers.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

What does the landlord-tenant code say? Did you quote it to him? What's the upshot here? Don't leave me/us hanging.

I live for this shit. It's like "2 Wants to Know" in real life.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Foreplay starts in the mind, Laurel. [Please] sit upon my face for the next two or so years!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I forgot to say happy birthday!

HAAAAAPPYBIRTHDAY!!!!!!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

everyone should MOVE TO MINNEAPOLIS!!! Housing is MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper than Chicago! And I am here! I will dog-sit, veggie-sit, drink your beer . . .

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Amanda. No sweat. Just put your bug on my face for the next two or so years.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

very true. when linus was a puppy he lived with a kitty so he didn't mind cats in the least but hated all other dogs. and though on first meeting someone he would bark once he saw that they were friendly with either me or jen he would come over and sniff at the person then leave them alone. he could tell the difference between people we were friendly with and strangers, like say the cable guy or ups dude. he'd go ape shit when the cable guy had to visit.

he also wasn't good with other dogs except jen's moms chihuahua and basset hound but that's because he knew them. he seemed to like jasper, the other chi (apparently chi's are clannish and can recognize other chihuahuas as being of the same breed) but he only put up with marvin the hound. plus linus thought he was a much bigger dog than he actually was. i can remember walking him one day and encountering one of the many rotweillers of the west side, linus wanted to tear this 120 lb. dog apart. the little man was oblivious to the fact that this dog would eat him like a piece of popcorn. but linus would go absolutely batshit crazy if he saw another dog in his neighborhood.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

This kind of pricing-out stuff is why my parents moved from the East Coast to an antique house in small-town MI that they bought for under 70K.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, jenny, i would totally flex your law muscles in this situation.
as i saw on a t-shirt at the MoA (mall of america): "There's no safety on these guns." I think you can own that.

xpost.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, happy birthday, Jesse! Enjoy the fuck out of that seafood.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

houses, nice ones even, are dirt f'ing cheap in memphis which is one of the many reasons i wanted to move there last fall. not huge ostentatious mcmansions or anything but nice places with a yard. in decent neighborhoods. with better weather.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

as i saw on a t-shirt at the MoA (mall of america): "There's no safety on these guns."

this is what my boss uses when referencing breasts. "check out the guns on that one!"

it's too early for this kind of talk.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny is OTM re: yardwork. My perfect situation would be a roomy condo w/washer, dryer, a finished basement w/high ceilings for a studio, and NO YARDWORK/SNOW SHOVELING.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

OTTO YOU STARTED IT!

Eh, right now I'm kind of sick of the law so I'm not sure I've got it in me to pick a fight. I might ask around some friends who know about housing law to make sure I'm right, and then send a letter, but not for a week or so. Right now, I've got my panties all a'twist to move somewhere better. Although Jeff has informed me that a dishwasher is nonnegotiable. He said, "If we don't have one I guarantee we would get in more fights."

And I know that he is right...

OH GOD NO SNOW SHOVELLING EVER. Never. I don't even care about the studio, although I'd like a spare room for craftiness.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff OTM about dishes.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

snow removal is cheap, most landscaping crews do it in the winter.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I shoveled our walk some last winter, but okay, Brooklyn is not Chicago. This is what snow-blowers are for.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

laurel, it snows a lot more on the east coast than it does here. the winter of 2000/01 was the snowiest winter ever in chicago and it struck me as mild compared to what i was used to in boston. it gets much much MUCH colder here though which is probably why it doesn't snow as much, the air can't hold the moisture. plus the wind, dear god the f'ing winter winds.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Why am I craving instant oatmeal?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

i want donuts so bad i just looked up dunkin donuts on wikipedia.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

HA!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I STILL want collard greens with smoked ham.... Where the hell can I get that w/out a lot of hassle?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

we were just talking about baked ham in my office. i was remarking about how clove cigarettes remind me of easter at my grandmother's house because she used to bake a ham with clove on it.

i could go for about 7 pounds of spiral cut ham right now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Fitzee's Ribs??

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, do you keep kosher?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

why did i think today was thursday? HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESSE.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

The Jewel on Clark and whatever, across from the Fruit Market, has collards that are pre-washed. They also sell smoked pork neck bones. Buy some of each. Chop the collards into smaller pieces and put in a big pot. Put the neck bone in there. Cover with water or chicken broth or both. Add lots of salt. Boil for an hour then check to see if that's what you're looking for. If not, boil longer.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, then put a little apple cider vinegar on them for serving.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, West MI gets TONS of lake-effect snow cos the lake takes your Chicago weather and moderates the wind and temp and drops it on us on the other side. I find NY a little warmer than my part of MI overall. Anyway it's supposed to be the LANDLORD'S job to remove snow & ice but GUESS WHAT? Yeah.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

go to hyde park, there's a ton of little cafes down there that can probably fix you up.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I most certainly do not, Jesse. Like, reallly don't keep kosher.

My mom does though, to the extent that she refuses to eat at any restaurant in Milwaukee except the cafeteria at the Jewish old folk's home (which she doesn't like anyway). She wasn't always this hardcore though, when I was growing up it was just not mixing milk + meat, not eating pork, etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago:Does Jordan Keep Kosher.

I said "without hassle" by which I meant, not going to the store, not boiling them and not going to Hyde Park. I am resigned to the fact that I will have no collards today.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

If I finish my last exam by Sunday night, I'll make a mess of collards and some biscuits or something and maybe some pinto beans. I'll just boil the hell out of an assortment of vegetables flavored with pork.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

So basically you were looking for a collard fairy to knock on your kitchen window and drop them off?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

chicago: if hepatits c were attacking your face instead of your liver you'd be doing something about it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

There is one (1) kosher restaurant in New Orleans, and she asked me to bring her back a few boxes of takeout from there. Like, once-warm meals in styrofoam containers. On a plane, then to a city I do not live in. Oooookaaay, moms.

(I did try to find the restaurant with an eye to getting some non-perishable kosher hot sauce or something, but it didn't work out)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

You're my kinda Jew.

Jordan: My Kinda Jew

Precisely, Laurel.

xpost

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

It will be like going to the dinner buffet at Tex and Shirleys.

Otto: You are rofflin' it up today. I hate those ads. They're lurid.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

So basically you were looking for a collard fairy ...

check the boston archdiocese.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

chicago: if hepatits c were attacking your face instead of your liver you'd be doing something about it.

winner thus far.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

hepatits hahhaha BOOBIES ON THE BRANE

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm subconciously awesome.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

i just can't spell today it seems.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Methurbation Blues

Smoking Tweak Makes My Cock Weak

There is no dignity in what I’m about to share with you. Few things in the world are less classy than smoking crystal meth. Speed is the bastard child of the drug family, cocaine’s ugly retarded stepbrother. Like alcohol but unlike almost all other illegal drugs, it causes brain damage. Yet maybe twice a year, when all my booty calls are out of town or otherwise engaged, I’ll motor over to a female friend’s house and ask her to light me up. I do this not because I enjoy being more agitated than I naturally am, nor because I savor the idea of being awake for 93 straight hours, but because it gives me the rampaging sex drive of an adolescent stegosaurus.

She’ll dip into her bag using a knife blade, pull out a tiny pile of yellowy slush, fill the little glass bulb at the end of her pipe, and run the flame under it as I inhale a half dozen or so bronco snorts of pure white smoke. It tastes like hair spray and hits the brain instantly. All warm cheeked and excited, I bid my friend adieu and head home quickly for a robust round of self-pleasuring.

It once took me six straight hours of masturbating BEFORE I was able to get it up. The last time, it took me TEN hours. All of this, mind you, while I was screamingly horny yet pitifully limp, a single-minded Sex Cyclops consumed with rutting mammalian instinct.

The larger my speed-induced lust, the smaller my penis. It becomes a pink rosebud. A decorative curlicue resting featherlike atop a miniature birthday cake. A whisper of a penis. At best, the implication of a penis.

Flopping and flailing, tugging and yanking, rolling my micro-burrito between my thumb and forefinger, I desperately Google “Hairy Asian Pussy”… “Big Black Tits”… “Shaved Mature Naked”… but am unable to focus on any single image long enough to construct a suitable fantasy. I click rapidly from one photo to the next, accidentally smearing vitamin E oil on the keyboard and mouse, all through the night until morning’s cruel rays mock my soft, greasy loins.

I’ll finally manage a pathetic micro-gasm while still half hard. It resembles a tiny worm vomiting its lunch. I will then make lists for a day or two before finally falling asleep.

The upside is that I become hypersexual for a solid week after crashing, with hearty, vein-laden erections and orgasms so intense it feels as if I’m pulling cartilage out through my perineum. This becomes handy when the booty calls start meowing outside and begging for a saucerful of milk.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Mathsturbation: C/D?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to a show of endless covers of 'Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah' on WFMU - this is good stuff. Sambas, rave-up, divas with strings, etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Last night I was having a paaathetic night at work so I decided to look into cutting out early. I approached our only male manager and said, "Hammer, tomorrow's my birthday, I'm not doing any business and I would like to go home because I have a LOT of jacking off to do."

He laughed, said, "I feel ya. I've been seperated for 2 months and I don't have a TV. See you Saturday."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to a show of endless covers of 'Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah' on WFMU

what would stephen merritt say about this?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

"...I would like to go home because I have a LOT of jacking off to do."

i can't imagine trying to use this as an excuse and not getting a psychiatric referral in the process.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

It was actually a little more. I said, "I have a LOT of jacking off to do. I'm waaay behind."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

way behind? you have a quota?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's a perk of working in the service industry. The flip side is that the line cooks are all in the walk-in doing blow and will throw a cleaver at you for sending anything back to the kitchen even though the plates for the rest of that table weren't up for another 15 minutes because they all wanted their steaks well and now the lightly-broiled tuna steak is stone cold.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

what would stephen merritt say about this?

He's hosting it!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

when i worked in the service industry it involved drinking on the job and my manager going to the storage area upstairs to sleep with a woman other than his fiancee.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

He's hosting it!

i know there was some hubub about his comments on the song. exacerbated by a local scenestress/incompetant.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

i've got to get a library card.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Not so much a quota as a personal goal.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

And did you ever try asking for time off for self-abuse?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Library card is very very easy.

Eight hours of un-woody whacking off, Jesse? Does that qualify as whacking off, or does that only start when one is turned on?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

And did you ever try asking for time off for self-abuse?

no. ah the folly of youth.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Dearest Chicago,

I am going to go offline for a little while in order to do some rewiring of my apartment.

I always get a little nervous and wear Playtex gloves while working with electricity. Twice in the past I have pulled a dumb move of "testing" wires by connecting them with a piece of metal such as a screwdriver. Both times I blew the circuit breaker, once requiring the landlord to have to replace it. Also both times resulting in a loud CRACK and smoke and burned wall or cieling.

But I think I know what I'm doing this time.

Sincerely,

Jesse K.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

go to the hardware store and by an ohmmeter!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Jesse,

Don't die on your birthday, pls.

Sincerely,

Wisconsin

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

hey ilx...what's important to remember to pack for an overseas trip?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

passport.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Electrical converters? If you're taking cell phone/ipod/electric razor/etc/etc/etc.

Um. Walking shoes? China China what do you need in China...peanut butter? Chewing gum? Familiar things you'll want?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Tampons?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

OTC medications you use regularly esp TUMS

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm going to do that birth control thing so I won't have a period while i'm there.

good call on OTC meds!

and gum!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

i'm making a list as we speak... and watching maury. that boy has two themes: (1) freak babies & (2) DNA testing

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

DNA testing is a drag cos it takes so long to come back -- the reveals aren't in real-time.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, i was going to say "condoms", but you won't need those.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Chinese/English phrasebook?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

tea
wontons
cheap electronics
bicycle

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

the indulgence of daytime tv!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

jordan: i'm a total nerd & taking THREE different ones. THREE.

i think we're going to buy bikes when we get there, but we are taking our bike helmets & locks with us.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

swiss army knife. never hurts to have one of those.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

we can stop talking about this, I didn't mean to dominate the conversations . . . i just started making a list & freaking out. i cleaned the bathroom. nonsequitor.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

oooh. good call, otto. i'm adding it!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

jordan: i'm a total nerd & taking THREE different ones. THREE.

Awesome. I forgot to learn Italian for this summer. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

But check the swiss army knife in your luggage or it'll belong to the airport.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Someplace to put the things you won't need over there, but may need upon returning home (car/house keys, cell phone, etc.).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

LEVI JEANS

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

to sell, jenny?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, backstory: I thought of condoms because one of my friends married an Australian and he said that when you travel to South East Asia, the tourist bureau guidebook or whatever it is makes special mention of prophylactics and recommends that Aussie tourists bring their own from home as they may not find the local options sufficient for the "heartiness and vigor" of Australian men. Or some equally hilarious euphemisms, you get the idea.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but I was maybe kidding. I don't know anything about overseas travel - I'm just thinking back to my youth when people were always talking about how you could get a bazillion dollars for levis on the black market in communist countries.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

i'll take a $20 pair i got at target!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Why I love working in a labor law firm part 1,333,748,333:

An attorney asks me how my paper is coming. I tell him it's done, and that by 1 AM I was so tired that I just ended with a page and a half rant about how capitalism is the root cause of all social injustice. He nods, steps out of the library, then comes back and hands me a book called "Legal Education and the Reproduction of Hierarchy: A Polemic Against the System" by Duncan Kennedy.

I'll be MegaFirm LLP where Jeff works doesn't have a copy of THAT lying around!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Someday I would like to write a book with the word "polemic" in the title. Of course it might be my autobiography....

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

i'm half polish and half irish so i guess i'm a pole/mc.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Will the roffles never end????

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

you're easily roffled.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

my hotmail account tells me i have a myspace message from the girl i was out with last saturday. since myspace is blocked at work i have no idea what it says. anyone want to wager on whether it's good news or bad news? it could go either way! 50-50!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't help that Jay/Kenan/Jesse are silent today and everyone's at lunch, leaving me with nothing to do but post my own mental wanderings.

XP: I'm not really a betting kind of gal. But you could wager yourself a bottle of whiskey?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

i will wager myself and/or a bottle of whiskey (or whisky if you prefer).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm here now. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer vodka, actually.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

You know it says "pls tell me u made it home ok wild man."

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

i can't stomach vodka, a high school experiment gone bad. later repeated in college with southern comfort.

i love gin however.

xpost- different girl.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

though that one is moving to the neighborhood in 3 weeks.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Happy Birthday, Jesse!

I'm busy at work, but I managed to squeeze in time to bid on a bunch of different old clocks on ebay. I will probably lose all of them, as per the usual, but I might become a clock collector shortly. We'll see...

Soon after I moved here, I went out with my then-coworkers for lunch. We passed by an ok neighborhood. The houses were small, the yards were small, the trees were big... Basically, I thought, huh, this must be where the not-so-achingly poor people must live.. Then everyone started going on and on about what a fancy pants area it was. That was my first introduction to Chicago real estate. I could have bought a BEAUTIFUL vintage two story home in my favorite neighborhood back in Richmond for $150,000.00, complete with a yard and fresh paint and nice appliances. But instead I decided to move here. It was nice, yes, but in Richmond.

I love the bungalows in Uke Village, but they keep getting torn down for new condo buildings. That or they just lose all their light because they have new construction next door to them. Also, yeah, they cost over 4 times what I could afford.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

there's a two flat about 3 doors down from me that converted back to a two-story single family home. it is ginormous and i don't even want to think about how much it would cost.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back.

Electricity soon proved to be unmanageable w/ the shit equip I already have. I'm just trying to re-do 3 2-prong outlets so that I can plug in things like my A/C. (The one that came w/ the apartment has the third prong removed!)

Anyway, my main concern was with overloading and fire, but it turns out that grouding (3rd pronging) has nothing to do with that, only w/ protecting the user from electrocution.

So I am just going to run to the hardware store and get those adapters that make a 2 into a 3 (did you know that they provide NO grounding? They just allow the 3 prong to be plugged in).

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Electricity became recaulking the tub, which was FRUSTRATING, as the jackass dumbfuck shithead maintenance guy really fucked it up when he tried to caulk it. Looks like shit.

Then I very thoroughly cleaned the fridge.

And that is that.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOU WONDERFUL WONDERFUL MAN

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have never lived anywhere that I didn't plug a three prong appliance into a two-prong outlet using an adaptor and I AIN'T DEAD YET, SONNY BOY.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

there are a total of 6 outlets in my entire apartment, or rather 3 outlets with two recepticles. only one of them has a 3 prong dealie. i have power strips strung all over the goddamn place.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

happy birthday jesse

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday to Jesse
Your apartment is messy
But you're still the bessy
Happy birthday to Jesse

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I just like savory more than sweet, no biggie. Plus "tuber" is a terrible word.

-- Laurel (sininspac...), May 12th, 2006 11:49 AM. (Laurel) (later) (link)

Have you been hanging out with Amanda again?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

We IM a lot -- does that count?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure we've never discussed tubers before, though.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I just like savory more than sweet, no biggie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

that's how ted kennedy pronounces "tuba" by the way.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

er, "tuber" not "no biggie".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://cincinnati.com/freetime/dining/reviews/maps/wendys_175x179.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

--Got new glasses. They're great.

--Ate at Popeye's. The jambalaya there is really pretty good.

--Bought a book of klezmer/Israeli folk tunes with an eye to making klezbian drum n' bass tracks. Also picked up a bass drum strap that I had ordered at the music store, and when I did the clerk put on an old Mama D1gdown's cd. Crazy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

JAYMC You are really asking for it now.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

J, stop tempting me with frosties and Jr Bacon Cheeseburgers.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

i saw a klezmer band open for vee dee at the bottle about a month ago. it was interesting. i was standing by the bar when i heard this racket in the pool room. in comes a guy with a bass drum harnessed to him. they did a lap of the room then got up on stage without missing a beat or breaking stride.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

JC: Should I go see Youngblood on Tuesday? Kr. already has tickets. It's funny, she's kind of a brass-band fangirl. Like when she saw you talking to us at the Green Mill, she was like, "Oooh, they know someone in the band!" Whereas me, I'm like, I'm just here to see my friend's band. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

That JC was directed at Mr. J0rdan C0hen, not myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. Yes, you should go to the show. Both because Y0ungblood is good (although really on an avant garde/NYC tip these days), and because that is one of the shows that C0ugar (pretty post-rock band made up of drummer from YB and other friends of mine) is opening up for. I think you would like them a lot. I'm thinking about going myself.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Innn-teresting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, Tuesday, I'm dumb.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm even dumber, because I thought I made a post asking you what day the show was but I apparently was able ABORT that one.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Would you still come down on a Tuesday, though?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

No, I don't think so. For some reason I thought the Bottle show was on a weekend.

I may go to the Milwaukee show on Wed., but even that is tough for a weeknight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to see a picture of your new glasses, Jordan.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am really fucking pissed and annoyed and frustrated and just pissed.

It's the kind of pissed that comes when you try to do one simple job and it turns into a big fucking mess that requires 10x the energy of the original task.

I was just trying to put the screen back in my kitchen window. The top of the window, for some unknowable reason, came loosed from the frame, toppled over, knocked the whole shelf of plants over, sending the large window-box planter ON TOP OF MY FUCKING HEAD, followed by the fucking rest of the plants on the shelf.

The planter was at least 10 lbs and I am covered in goddamn dirt and have finally cleaned most of the dirt off the floor.

The ceramic planter is smashed to bits, the venus fly-trap is mangled, the herbs are unearthed, my clean jeans are filthy, and I have to take a shower.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

And the screen is not in the window.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Just took this in the bathroom (it's actually the first time I've bothered to get a picture off of my phone, which is exciting):

http://static.flickr.com/51/145205504_774202e079.jpg?v=0

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

This fucking planter

http://static.flickr.com/46/138299157_5a82f22617.jpg

This fucking shelf

http://static.flickr.com/48/135992757_3e3a9edf32.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

And it was such a NICE planter. Fucking fuck.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, don't you mean this shelf?

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/lowelldance.gif

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

It was beautiful, Jesse. :-(

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Who is that??

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Do you know the feeling I'm talking about? When you just go to do the simplest fucking thing in the world--say do the laundry. You pack up the clothes and the detergent and what-not and you're headed out the door when you run into the door jamb, dropping your bag of quarters that cascade down the steps. You set down the laundry and chase after your quarters. When you're done, you return to find that the detergent and bleach have leaked out and ruined some clothes and now you have to mop the fucking stairs.

It just makes me want to eat a gallon of ice cream with valium jimmies and go to bed.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

That's Christopher Lowell of HGTV.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Who DOESN'T know that, Jesse?? I've been clumsy for, like, A WEEK thanks to PMS, I nearly had a bike wreck last weekend directly in front of a CITY BUS. I am sorry for your aggravation.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's sad because a planter fell on your head and covered you in dirt on your BIRTHDAY.

You deserve a sloth.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://sacredheritage.com/normita/images/sloth-3.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Were you set on wearing those jeans out tonight? Because that would put me over the edge.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

LAUREL OMG I get so clumsy right before my period. SO CLUMSY. Like, sometimes? I will cut myself with my own fingernails, that's how much of a danger I become. I do not use knives around my period because I will slice into my fingers. Also: I lose things.

Jesse, my little duck, I'm sorry that God took a crap on you for your birthday. If you want, at dinner, you can stick your weiner through a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bucket.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I will cut myself with my own fingernails, that's how much of a danger I become.
I told you about my Moody's cribbage injury. You've seen the photographic evidence. It happens to the best of us.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, you are a handsome man.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

HEY MY SPACERS YR ALL SICKOS:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-060512myspace-warning,1,1188047.story?coll=chi-news-hed

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Aww, thanks Jenny.

(but I think in this case blurry cell phone pics are as good as airbrushing!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

The 'nasta page is just a ring for luring in runaways.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Funny - I saw Jordan's photo above the planter ones and I thought that Jesse had grown a 'stache since I last saw him.

What was that about cribbage? Do you play, 'manda?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I want to play cribbage. Or pinochle. Or spades. I love playing cards.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

myspace got me laid once so i won't bad mouth it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

"once"

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a 'stache!! I just...haven't shaved for two days.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

"bad mouth"

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

well, to be more precise, with one person.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

she's still in my top 8!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

otto what is yr myspace page

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I joek, I met my last boyfriend on MySpace. Plus I spent like a year on nerve.com.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff and I met on an internet message board.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

I am a player of cribbage.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think we should all do ms paint portraits of each other again. that made me laugh.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

On second thought, maybe not.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I met my last 2 girlfriends online. One on nerve, and one... well, let's just say you've heard of it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

And why not?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Were you set on wearing those jeans out tonight? Because that would put me over the edge.

No. But as I was doing my fuming and cursing and throwing things I convinced myself that I WAS going to wear them and that they were my favorite jeans ever and they were RUINED.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

I meet all sorts of random women online, in various venues, but the one I actually date is the one I meet in a bar. Go figure.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm jeans.

― regular roundups (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

HEY DAVE we need a poem about Eric finding a bra on the street in front of a Wrigleyville karaoke bar. STAT.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Eric found a bra
I got arrested in the taxi
Life's such a wild ride

(^_^)

― regular roundups (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

On second thought, maybe not.

TOO LATE.

http://static.flickr.com/56/145230319_650a7bc582.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

otto what is yr myspace page

http://www.myspace.com/effyoutoo

i think that's it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, happy birthday, Jesse. Sorry I haven't been around on this thread lately. School has been pretty crazy lately.

Who else is excited about the new Scissor Sisters album?

― regular roundups (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

That's cute!

I did one of Jesse:
http://i2.tinypic.com/zjdw07.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I met two smart creative people who are now my friends a few years ago through Nerve, but that's it. (Didn't post an ad publicly, just answered a few.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I just wrote a poem, too:

When it's winter
ice is slick
but one thing is certain
jaymc's a dick

ROFFLES @ amanda!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

The big sorrowful green eyeballs are what really get me.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I CALLED JOHN A DICK AND HE RAN AWAY ON GMAIL

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

aw i was just tryna clown him

― +-+++-++-++ (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

That painting is the best, Amanda.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

More painting please.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Instructions:
make painting
save as jpg
upload via tinypic
post

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I found this ol' thing:

http://static.flickr.com/51/145234190_745b2c3487.jpg?v=0

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

This is my portrait of Kenan.

http://i1.tinypic.com/zje6xf.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

ethan you know i love you but i don't even know why you're posting on some bullshit ilx watercooler thread when you already waste so much time arguing on the racism circlejerk threads (fyi i do too, it's pretty sad) (i mean not as sad as some folx on here, but what are you gonna do) (plz to keep some sense of perspective). anyway i'm out cuz me and emily and dr casino are gonna go out to the karaoke bar.

― j. blount (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Do me! Do me! (that was an xpost, of course)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Eric finds a bra:

http://i3.tinypic.com/zjebli.gif

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

much like my real life, i did myself:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/effyoutoo/otto.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) http://www.funkyfridge.com/shop/images/AB-MB-24482.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Much merriment. :-)

― Ned Raggett (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I only put the ciggie in there since she always posts photos where she's smokin'

Also, she's SMOKIN'

http://i1.tinypic.com/zjez2u.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, that's quite good!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I like that my belt matches my shoes there, Jenny.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to give her highlights but it didn't work out so well.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan looks like a DOUCHE.

― JW. (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Here's Sarah:
http://i1.tinypic.com/zjf1xs.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Keep in mind that I'm using my right hand to draw these and I'm left handed. That's why no one's eyes are the same size.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

EZ that is ADORABLE.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I have no arms, but I am happy, and that's what's important.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

OK this thread.

― Allyzay. (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel looks kind of like you in your pic, Manda.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, Amanda! Hah. Sorry I haven't joined in, I am busy being an asshole to someone who didn't deserve it. Plus I have no skills whatsoever at visual art.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, no biggie.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know why my picture wound up being the size of a postage stamp. i don't know how to fix it. since it was too shitty to go out last night i think i will buy myself the two beers i owe myself tonight. if anyone's in the vicinity of chicago & leavitt come on by.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Where as we are MS Paint Michaelangelos.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Come on, give it a try!! Like I have skillz?

JAYMC LET IT GO

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

ok, seriously, anyone want this spare ticket to the cubs game tomorrow? last possible person who would go with me just begged off for a wedding in michigan. great seats, anyone want it???

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Roffles at Sarah. And thanks for the roffles, because I have burst into tears two, no, make that THREE times since 9 am. Shitty.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

so you can associate pictures with contacts in google chat now? i'm totally putting these paint pictures on your profiles.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

JAYMC LET IT GO

MEGA ROFFLE

― Dan (In Stitches!) Perry (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, are you ready?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Someone please draw me please.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/56/145244355_aa69fdf85f.jpg?v=0

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, feet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Bravo, even without feet.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, you're a genius.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

A champion effort! Plus I LOVE that dress.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody do me how I like to be done.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

it works! jordan's email showed up with his picture.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

And I didn't even click to accept it!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

god somebody kill me.

― strongo hulkington (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh go start a Baltimore thread.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

This feels like everybody leaving after a big concert and stopping to watch the street performers.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

if the street performers were totally unaware of the big concert.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

'manda

http://i2.tinypic.com/zjfjw7.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/48/145247556_69564d380d_o.gif

Thanks, Jordan! I take it as a compliment that my feet aren't in there seeing as how they are fucking huge.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

HAHA!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, wouldn't it just be easier if Jess and I posted on your thread?

― Alex in Baltimore (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I showed that to my sister and she said it looks like I have hairy pits.
Doh!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

PRETTY FUNNY GUYS

(Al, you and Jess should post on the DC thread!!)

― SQUARECOAT (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I look dirty like linus too.

SQUARECOATS, Surely you are named after Nick's side project?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

linus :(

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a douche bag!

― jaymc (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

???

Did he sell it at CDepot?

― SQUARECOAT (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

People, it's called Show All Details.

― Dan (HYSTERICS) Perry (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I feel weird. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Why would I know how to show all details?

― jaymc (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

You are acting kind of weird, too.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

they're posting as others.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

i'm outta here, have a good weekend and if anyone wants a FREE FUCKING TICKET to the cubs game tomorrow email me. at my real address not this fake assed one.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only posting as John.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, Jenny, how were you able to steal my username and e-mail like that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I know how to show details.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I was cornfused too.
Hey, Chicagoans, come to this tonight:
http://manifest.colum.edu/music.php
It's free.
Pharcyde will be there. I will scream YO MOMMA until they play it.
It starts really early. See site.

STrangers, Hello.
Ally, Hello.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Why the hell has no one drawn me?

Also, will who will join me for a drink after dinner?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I did, you giant wiener!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

OF COURSE I WILL. I'm hoping it will be more than one drink, though?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Why the hell has no one drawn me?

You really must pay more attention.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

fuck you.

fuck you alllllllll

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Why the hell has no one drawn me?

Dude, that's you with dirt on your head up there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, John. I just typed them into the full name and email box and clicked submit.

Jesse, you slugaduck, there's a huge pic of you covered in dirt up there.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, see, I missed that b/c I was away and only show the last 50 posts.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

that's dumb.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in Montana!

(My point being, Jenny, that for people with a username made up of two or more words, I can trick it by inserting an extra space in the middle, which HTML ends up editing out. But for people like gbx, I have to add a period because otherwise it asks me for a password. And then on e-mail addresses I have to alter them slightly, too.)

― gbx. (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'M NOT DIRTY

― dissonance in the divine accord (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

That was me. Didn't ask for a password or anything.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

CREPEY

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

The funny thing is, Jordan, I thought for sure that you WERE Jesse.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

I have to go! I need to get on the train, but before I do, here's my self-portrait.

http://static.flickr.com/55/145258765_2346363394_o.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Nice vagina.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
oh shit

that is funny

because you have a vagina, and you're smiling.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/sweets/crepes/crepe.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that is out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK. YOU. ALL.

I HAVE TO GO TO DINNER.

― Safety Fist (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

THAT'S NOT MY VAGINA, IT'S MY COCK AND ONE EXPOSED NUT.

I DON'T HAVE A VAGINA.

I HAVE TO GET ON THE TRAIN!!!!!!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, take your vag to the train and get on it!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ofb.net/~epstein/sl/0409/20040903-vtrain.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'm losing it over Jesse's picture.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

I like his round little egg body.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

OK THIS THREAD.

I have to go home and drink, now. Talk to all of you soon!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, take your vag to the train and get on it!

By which I mean "get on your vag," of course.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Bye Laurel! Drinks next week?

― Laura H (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

JAYMC STOP IT. THAT WASN'T LAURA H.

― Safety First (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Bemused. :-)

― Ned Raggett (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

boy, jaymc, could you be any creepier?

― h.stencil (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

No one likes you

― JW (ex machina), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Food for thought.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

O RLY

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/52/145286416_f5e461fa32.jpg?v=0

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 12 May 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

what's a prefuse 73 and is there any way i would enjoy it? note: it will cost me nothing.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

I really like the first two Prefuse 73 records, but I'm pretty lukewarm on the rest. It's mostly instrumental abstract-electronic hip-hop.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I said this two years ago:

Scott Herren’s new material under the name Prefuse 73 is certainly more restless than his 2001 debut -- One Word Extinguisher spans 22 songs in an hour; the outtakes collection, Extinguished offers 23 in half that time -- but what it provides him is greater emotional range. The full-length runs from a busy, boisterous rap, courtesy rising star Diverse, to cuts like "Detchibe," sounding like mellow 70s jazz played by a band of modems, and "Why I Love You," featuring samples of R&B melisma fractured so as to sound almost sinister (and a perfect segue to a Da Brat song on a mix CD I made). But throughout the two records are these thick, stuttering beats and shards of melody that satisfied both my newfound need for bangin’ rhythms and my time-tested interest in head-nodding, space-out sounds.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, is that...Nick?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 May 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

The sideburns suggest a John.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 12 May 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's Jeff!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, this sucks.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 13 May 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

Blotto! Blotto!!

We - this songwriter and I - were going through his catalog and talking about the songs where the title indicated the meaning (i.e., "Shine" or "Slow Down Chicago" or "I'm Like A Bird") and talking about how any song can have obscure lyrics if someone goes into thinking "I understand this song - I know what it's about from the title!" and then my songwriting friend (brilliant guy, with a brillian girlfriend who normally sings with Barry Mannilow in Vegas but is back home for the weekend, thus the occasion for the party tonight) says "What about 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'?" and I say "Fuck that! Not fuck you, but [gesturing to Wicker Park outside} fuck that and that obscurity" - if the title of the song doesn't tell the listener what to expect, they're going to be lost and that can't happen. "Don't Know Why". "Something In The Way She Moves". My friend's band has a song called "Vertigogo", and if it had been titled "I Meant To Love You", it would be a top 40 hit.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 13 May 2006 06:48 (nineteen years ago)

Except:

a) Sometimes you want the listener to be lost (or do you consider this contempt for your listener?)
b) Sometimes an unexpected title can be used to shade the meaning of the song
c) If all songs had straightforward, utilitarian titles, it would be like going to one of those shows where the band/singer explains what each song is about before they play it (this makes it sound like I'm attacking you, Eric, because you're chatty live, but I've never heard you directly explain a song, so I'm not - keep on rockin'). I think people get enjoyment out of having to work a little bit to figure something out; it's like a reward.

Basically I think what you're saying is true from a commercial standpoint, but not from an artistic standpoint. And if one started justifying all their moves from that standpoint, they would end up fucked (though possibly very wealthy).
And it seems like what you argued against with your friend when you brought up Wicker Park and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was not so much obscurity as it was easy irony? Is "Smells Like Teen Spirit" an obscure title? It's based on a widely-available commercial product.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Whenever I make a big serious thought-out response like that, I feel like I must have missed the entire point the person I was responding to was trying to make.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it's widely available any more. Also, I like this conversation. Also good morning. Also? Jeff is going to be huuuuuung over when he wakes up.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

"Smells Like Teen Spirit" isn't obscure, it's meaningless -- a joke you can't ever get.

What about New Order song titles? I like the way they work as a little handle to hold on to, but you don't need them to enjoy the song. "What's this song called?" "Oh, this is 'Round and Round.'" "Ah." *continues listening*

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

What about song titles of instrumentals? Sometimes in can be meaningless or jokey, or sometimes it can dictate the entire meaning of the song.

Re: explaining the song, I'm thinking of Happle Apple shows where Dave King will tell some crazy five minute story about buffalo that actually makes the audience pay attention and think about some imagery, instead of thinking "oh more weird jazz."

I wonder if this loaf of stale-ass multigrain sourdough would make good french toast?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I am hungry and Sarah is still sleeping. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

It's okay, waking up to the sounds of someone else making you breakfast is the best thing ever.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh: I forgot I wanted to say: Just because I'm not on ILX that much any more, I don't want you guys to forget about me. I want to try and do a better job of emailing people and calling people just to chat, but you all should feel free to email and call me too, if you want. I'm worried I'm going to fall off the face of the earth.

I finally used an Amazon gift certificate I got for xmas to order the book discussed in the music section of this week's Reader, about easy and quick-and-dirty music-related electronic projects. The author, who is an Art Institute prof is speaking at Quimby's tonight at 7 if I'm not doing anything else then. Also, we might go see a movie today using the movie gift certificates my boss gave me, but we have to drive to Evanston because they're only good at that theater. I'm thinking either Mission Impossible III or Art School Confidential.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'll just make some coffee for now, surely the coffee grinder will wake her up.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

What's the book called?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

You can skip ASC. Do MI3.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if this loaf of stale-ass multigrain sourdough would make good french toast?

I'd say yeah - stale bread makes the best french toast, and I like mutli-grain french toast a lot. Tip: Add a wee bit of vanilla extract to your egg mixture!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, I want some french toast now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

WHO DO I HAVE TO BLOW TO GIVE AWAY A GODDAMN CUBS TICKET IN THIS TOWN???

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Kerry Wood?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

mmm... wood.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I would totally take it if I wasn't already going. In fact, ask me first next time.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

We're meeting at 1:00, right? In front of the statue of Harry Caray and his army of small demons?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

The book I ordered: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415975921/ref=pd_kar_gw_1/103-7854574-8747812?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

The Reader article: http://www.chicagoreader.com/theMeter/060512.html

So we went to that Columbia Manifest thing last night, and for some reason, NPR's Tony Sirabia (sp?) was MCing, and he gave the saddest introduction to the Pharcyde ever. This is how it concluded: "I was talking to a friend and I said the Pharcyde would be playing, and he said 'They're still around?' And I said, 'Yeah...and they're still relevant!'" (Awkward pause) "Here's the Pharcyde!"
So many drunk college kids with dreadlocks. Embarassing.

Kevin, I would want to go to the game but I feel bad abandoning Sarah. I think we're going to go see Mission Impossible. We thought about seeing the new Crouching Tiger clone, The Promise, before noticing it was only showing at 9:10.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

yes, we are.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Nick are you going to circuit bend a speak and say?

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

sarah won't mind nick. come on out. I DON'T WANT TO WIND UP EATING THIS HUNDRED DOLLAR TICKET, SOMEONE COME TAKE IT OFF MY HANDS!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Why don't you just scalp it?

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, isn't the game going to get rained out anyways?

Also, the Cubs suck.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I am going to circuit-bend my toaster to make French toast.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

KENAN DON"T FORGET K'S PURSE.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan left me a voicemail saying that he had it and would bring it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I am so out of the loop. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Kr. left her purse at Le Bar last night after we left.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse?

He's hung over.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Kan we Pleeze stop abbreviating Krt's nm?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I DOUBT THE GAME'S SOLD OUT. I AM HOPING FOR A RAINOUT.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Shut up.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Not otto, jesse.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

DEAR STUPID PEOPLE ON THE CHICAGO BOARD

I weighed myself. I am 166 lbs. I am 5'6" and 166 lbs.

How is that even possible?

But the good news is that I look GREAT b/c I'm way dehydrated from the drinking.

Recap- 31, 5'6", 166, 6" cut, smooth, and hung over.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I totally tried to be off work today. I would go to the game.

But I really should go make some money. But I'm scared that I'll fuck up something. It's going to be bizzzy and I'm hanging low.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

all right, i'm leaving for the game in 5 minutes, if anyone changes their mind and wants this ticket call me 773.531.9663.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Are you SELLING that ticket?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

If you guys do anything post-game, give us a call. Though we might be in Evanston.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

i'm giving it to whomever wants it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I didn't say thank you for my wonderful BD present.

THANK YOU JENNY, for the lovely 1yengar yoga book.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Sure thing, dawg. I'm glad you like it!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

My secret hippy shame:

Jenny's in a Jam Band: one and two.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, Jordan, I was drunk what I wrote all that about clarity in song titles. I don't mind obscurity. I love Dirty Three song titles. We were totally talking about pop songwriting and clarity versus obscurity. My friend is a very melodic pop songwriter and a very polished (in a good way) studio engineer - check out his song 'Shine' here (all the way through because it takes a few turns) - and I realized how if a song is called 'Shine' I'm going to listen to those lyrics and not get lost, because the meaning's there in the title, but if the song is 'Vertigogo', I'm going to get pulled into its dynamics but have nothing to hang onto as far as what the guy's singing about. (Call a song "Do The Dance" and I know what the thesis of the song is - I know what the guy is talking about!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think the conversation started when I was trying to find out the story behind this "Had a bad stay" pop song that has been bugging me for the past month in CVS, Einstein Bagels, everywhere I go - it's one of the most annoying songs I've heard in a long time, but it's a well-crafted pop song (with the step up for the final chorus, the clarity of intent, etc.)...

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

("had a bad day", not "had a bad stay")

Jenny - you fronted a band!

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/55/145258765_2346363394_o.jpg

I still feel like this.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hey you. You, Eric, or anyone who can help:

Why are my computer speakers making so much noise? There is a lot of hissing and crap.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's something with the wires from your computer to your speakers?

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

How so? They're just plugged in like normal wires. Is there a filter or something I can put on the bitch?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe your va-jay-jay is getting in the way.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I wish someone would feed me.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Me, too. Order a pizza to my house and then come over and pay for it and eat with me, but don't talk because I'm supposed to be working on an exam.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK YOU. SERIOUSLY, YOU CAN JUST FUCK RIGHT OFF.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

just kidding. cease fucking off.

I am going to dishonor a very nice cut of beef. It makes me sad to think what I'm about to do to it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Can you imagine if your arms and legs in real life were the same proportion as those in your MS Paint drawing? You would be one creepy looking dude.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Man oh man. I thought I was just going to dishonor this filet a little by half-assed cooking it in a frying pan. But instead I went whole hog and way over did it on the thawing. So it was medium by the time I took it out of the microwave.

Bleh. I put gravy on it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Who posted the dream hush puppies on the blog?

Can we agree that the poster should identify themself?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

(I am a big advocate of using "them" as a gender-neutral singular pronoun)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I don't know if anyone saw the early-90s french rap video I put up on the blog, but I just discovered that Michel Gondry directed it. Had no idea!

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 13 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I've been knocking around the idea of a Jenny and Jeff Anniversary Party on Lake Michigan. A BBQ. Whatthink?

I'm going to work.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 13 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that's interesting. Here are my thoughts:

1. I like parties.
2. I like BBQs.
3. I like the lake and the beach.
4. We just had a big party to celebrate our commitment to each other a year ago - it seems kind of weird to have another party with our relationship as a central focus so soon.
5. Lets just have a party, a ChILXor Summer Beach Blanket Bingo Bash, but maybe in July so it's a little warmer, which I'm only mentioning because my feet are really cold.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Here is a google video of a dalmation riding a bicycle: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6742988194956129075

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Some thoughts on Mission Impossible III:

a) It's funny how the supporting cast includes all these actors who can be really hammy and over-the-top (Ving Rhames, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Jonathan Rhys Meyers) in relatively understated performances, and then you have Tom Cruise acting like he takes the whole thing REALLY SERIOUSLY and, as a result, coming off as way hammier than anyone else.

b) For most of the movie, Cruise is like the typical action hero where he comes up with these ridiculous and complicated plans and pulls them off without a hitch, but right in the climax (or preclimax, really) of the movie, there's an odd part where he steals the Macguffin weapon thingy (off camera, for some reason), and escapes by jumping out a window with a parachute on. The wind blows him back into the building through a window, onto an office desk, and the camera pans up and there's a cleaning worker staring at him. Cruise gives him look, then the wind pulls him back out the window, down onto the street where he is suspended from a post and he DROPS the Macguffin and its rolling down the street through traffic chasing it. For five minutes, Cruise turns into this bumbling slapstick comedy character. Weird.

c) Cruise running really fast is like the funniest thing ever. His arms and legs are pumping really hard but his back is totally rigid and straight. Made me laugh every time.

Overall, an enjoyably ridiculous movie. I laughed a lot.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 13 May 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

What are people doing? I really feel like going out and doing something.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, meet me at Schubas for some A+ rock and roll.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 14 May 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

there was a brah
who found a bra
it was fairly raw

oh, and by the wah,
it's daphiMa,
jaymsaw

― eh (Dave M), Sunday, 14 May 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, it's the real Dave.

Tonight work was hard.

Tomorrow work will be HELLLLLLLLLL. Why the fuck did I not remember to ask off for Mother's Day???? What have I done....

Hello dads in purple polyester suits with matching shirt, socks, shoes and hat, and hello mom with gigantic feather hat and gold lame (la-may) dress. Hello working harder than you have for most of the rest of the year for less than half the money. Wah wah wah, booo hooo fucking hoo.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

I had a great dinner tonight. Smith and Wollensky--french onion soup and roast beef hash with soft-boiled eggs and hollandaise. It lubricated my GI tract, but stopped my heart.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

And wine? And wine?

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeh. I had a pinot grigio. Don't even know which one. Wish I did though, b/c it was really good.

I think I need to go on some sort of fast for the next few days.

Had I had dessert I would have had their drunken donuts. They had Grand Marnier, and a pineapple and rum. Yum.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:21 (nineteen years ago)

"Less than half the money"

Usually I expect to walk with 13% of my sales. On a bad night, 10%. On Mother's Day, 5% is what most servers make.

Last year I was off, but the servers had a prized contest to see who got the worst tip. The worst was a guy who got stiffed on a $300 check, stiffed on a $250 check and got 27c on $150-ish. That was a table with a kid who was throwing bread at other diners, which the parents found cute.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/56/142000291_3fca73e0fe.jpg?v=0

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

First matches:
Jesus is going to physically appear
Jesus is going to come and destroy
Jesus is going to abandon his peaceful ways and not pull any punches in the fight
Jesus is going to get squeezed

JESUS is going to be pissed off when he finds out that Americans killed the poorest people on earth.

Jesus is going to end up lying to either Alicia or Kristin.

Jesus is going to slaughter everyone on Earth who doesn't believe that He is the Son of God

We want to see what Jesus is going to do here in DC now not in the future. Jesus is here NOW. What does He want to do NOW?

Jesus is going to come and get his bride, which comprises all of us who are born again.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 14 May 2006 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

People is weird about Jesus.

Jesse, it's too bad you can't grat tables on mother's day. Or somehow remind people that it's customary to tip. Like maybe with a mariachi band singing a song about tipping 20%.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's weird? It was like last night the cosmos was apologizing in advance for tonight. I had a foreign guy (Polish) who tipped me 40%, and a bunch of other such anomolies.

Thank you, Mr. Ornatskyy!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, what are you talking about?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

It bugs me that when the cat sits on things she inevitably makes direct anal contact with whatever she's sitting on.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/51/146172364_30ba2d031f_o.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

It didn't occur to me until just now that the past 2 posts kind of go together.

The dalmation butt is a still from the video posted upthread.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Cumshot.

Mouthshot ist ein gezielter Samenerguss in den eigenen Mund. Er wird häufig in homosexuellen Pornofilmen dargestellt, wenn junge Männer auf dem Rücken liegend masturbieren und ihre Spermafontäne mit dem eigenen Mund auffangen.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

That dalmation has a clean butthole. Radical Edward the cat could learn a thing or two from that dog.

Hey who else besides ME is going to Schoobadoobadoo's tomorrow night to see the FFs LIVE AND IN CONCERT?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think I will go. Unless Paxson has a clear and binding memory of our talking about going to the movies. But still prob I may go.

I have MON TUES AND WED OFF!!!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

ME TOO

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Wanted:

Great(est) recipe for goulash that you know of.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah's mom has this "goulash" that she makes that isn't goulash at all, and now I have to make it for Sarah. It's basically roasted potatoes, squash, zucchini and onions. I have no idea why they call it goulash. No paprika at all.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

No paprika, no credibility.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

My dad used to make goulash, but I have no idea what went in it. I know that it involved egg noodles, though. Hrm. Maybe that's what I'll make for dinner tonight. Here's a decent looking recipe from cooking light. I don't have a dutch oven, but I think I can improvise. Also, I think I would put some frozen spinach in there so that I didn't have to make a separate vegetable.

3 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1 1/2 tablespoons hot Hungarian paprika
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 pounds turkey tenderloin, cut into 3/4-inch pieces
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
1 3/4 cups low-salt chicken broth
1/4 cup cream sherry
2 cups thinly sliced onion, separated into rings
1 large garlic clove, minced
1 1/4 cups nonfat sour cream
8 cups hot cooked medium egg noodles (about 8 cups uncooked)

Combine first 3 ingredients in a large zip-top plastic bag. Add the turkey; seal bag, and shake to coat.

Heat oil in a large ovenproof Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Add the turkey, and cook 5 minutes, browning well on all sides. Remove turkey from pan; set aside.

Add broth and sherry to pan, and stir to deglaze pan. Return turkey to pan; add onion and garlic, and bring to a boil. Cover and bake at 350° for 1 hour and 15 minutes or until turkey is tender. Remove from oven, and let stand for 5 minutes. Stir in the sour cream, and serve over noodles.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I was looking at some recipes online, and they have way more paprika than this one. One called for 1/4 cup. I think I would go with 3 or 4 tbs.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I bought a can of mustard greens. It satisfies the craving for greens a little.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I want my paprika!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeh. I still have it. I need to put in on the stack that I make of "things that do not belong to me."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm eating Awesome Almond Comfort Cake. "Poundcake so good, it feels like a hug (tm)"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

German Jokes

(funnier if you read them in a monotonous German accent.)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

An Englishman, an Italian, and a German walk into a bar. The German says to the bartender: "This is an Englishman and Italian with me. I am German."

YOWZAH! ROFFLEZ!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

ATTENTION ALL: Ben and I are having a co-birthday party on FRIDAY MARCH 19 at his condo in Logan Square, address to come later. WE HOPE YOU CAN MAKE IT.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

That would be MAY 19, not March.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Your moment of zen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRlBArwapg&search=dog%20puke

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 14 May 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Jeff. I had to watch that twice.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

I just remembered that my mom always says (of a really dumb or corny un-funny joke): "ese es un chiste aleman."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

That means "that is a chiste aleman."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

Also can be interpreted as "ese es a German joke."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

Un abuelo que le dice a su nieto: " Niño, ¿Cómo se llama el alemán que me esconde las cosas"? Y el nieto le responde: "Alzheimer abuelo, Alzheimer.

Babelfish has a modified but equally hilarious retelling:

Grandfathers who say to him to his grandson: "Young, How is called the German who hides the things to me"? And the grandson responds to him: "Alzheimer grandfathers, Alzheimer.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

I recommend Mission Impossible 3 way more than the dog puke movie. It was goofy and slam-bang and P S Hoffman was really evil. Delish.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

and he DROPS the Macguffin and its rolling down the street through traffic chasing it. For five minutes, Cruise turns into this bumbling slapstick comedy character. Weird.

Not that weird -- he did it in Minority Report, too, when he was chasing his own rolling eyeballs down a hallway. Maybe he feels the need to do one "funny" scene in these movies to "humanize" himself or something. (Doesn't work.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

So it would seem that the joke website Jenny linked to is just a touch British.

Do any of you Americans know what a "chav" or a "ginger" is? (A chav is a white-trash, wiggery sort of bloke, and a ginger is a redhead, as far as I can tell-- but why are there redhead jokes??).

A couple of gay jokes-

* From the outset I could tell that Oscar Wilde was gay.
Honestly, someone who likes wine that much can't be straight. He'd always be following me round my house with a Semillon.

* What does a homosexual do when he can't get a root?
Does a shit in his hand and has a wank.

* What is the hardest thing about rollerblading?
Telling your parents you're gay.

Why do women wear make-up and perfume?
Because they're ugly and they smell.

What should you do if a bird craps on your car?
Never take her out again.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

Disappointing thing about M:I3: apparently putting an explosive charge in someone's head and then detonating it just makes them go crosseyed. GODDAMNIT I WANT TO SEE A HEAD EXPLODE. WHY DO YOU THINK I GO TO THE MOVIES?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

What? Is this a Looney Toons movie?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty much, yeah.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I like the new Eno-produced Paul Simon album. Some of the tracks I've listened to two or three times in a row.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that PSH was deliberately resembling a serial killer - the guys who seem almost slow and retarded but not quite. The whole skyscraper stuff was pretty neat, I thought.

Have you heard You're The One, K. (the last Simon record)? Really good, actually.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard it, no. But I am hesitant to call myself a Paul Simon fan. That feels like a silly thing to call yourself.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also -- I do think we should let this thread go to 10,000 posts. Let's do it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

The whole skyscraper stuff was pretty neat, I thought.

Oh, totally. I was sitting close enough to the screen that I got vertigo. There was a lot of top-shelf action in this movie. I thought it owed a whole lot to "Die Hard"; the action was that good.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, what action movie doesn't owe something to Die Hard? That's like saying a guitar solo owes something to Hendrix.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

A riddle for you

What does a sterilized bear have in common with the World Series?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

neither have cubs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeh, yeh yeh motherfuckah!!!

Go Cubbies!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I found out that 4 women at Catch have had plastic surgery.

2 boob jobs, 1 nose and 1 eye lift.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, women.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Mornin' y'all.

A few things:
1) JENNY YOU THE MOSTEST PRETTY. You should see my old photos -- I look 14 stages of awkward.

2) Did Otto have to go to the game alone? It would have been untoward for me to go with you, so I didn't.

3) We went to the Field Museum on Sat. for the first time and I saw a meteorite that is 4.5 BILLION YEARS OLD. Like WHOA. Also dinosaur bones. It was only $6 because we have student discount and people who live here discount.

4) HI!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Field Museum is really only worth $6, so you did it right.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

My price index:

Field Museum: $6
Shedd Aquarium: $12
Museum of Science and Industry: they should pay you $10

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

The Egypt/mummy exhibit was pretty cool, and I liked seeing the birds of the world. Definitely worth $6. I agree about Science and Industry.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

But they only had like 6 owls. What does a person have to do to see some owls?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the Egypt thing is the bestest thing in there. I liked the mineral formations upstairs, but I wouldn't expect anyone else to dig on that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I agree w/ K. I mean it's a great museum, but man is it boring. Like all natural history museums. Like many other types of museums too.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps if David Attenborough was a tour guide.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Customer service rep: May I have your zip code please?
Me: 60640
CSR: OK. I don't find your record. That was "6064"?
Me: 6064-OH
CSR: Ok....60640. Oh, OK. Now I got it.
Me: Yeh, jackass.

(This was not an Indian CSR. She had a clear American Southern accent.)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit, the tits thread link. i was looking through all of the pics to see which might feature natural breasts rather than crazyartificial overperky orbs, and i think i lost track of what real ones look like. and the facial expressions are rather amusing.

i'm kind of curious to hear the last simon record. saw him on saturday night live--he looks so old, and the song he was singing was underwhelming, but maybe his other recent stuff is better...

xp that would be pretty cool.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants to go to the MCA with me tomorrow afternoon? It's free on Tuesday, open till 8, and I want to see the Chris Ware exhibit.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

and i think i lost track of what real ones look like

Surely that's the idea of all fake boobs. Science is getting closer.

She blinded me with science!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Is there something wrong with me that I prefer to look at hundreds of taxidermied birds than modern art? I was underwhelmed by the MCA.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I would really rather see live birds, but if they're not available, dead ones will do.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps you will enjoy this film.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

they don't look much like real ones, but there are so many of them you start to get confused.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

That applies to the tit as well as the titmouse.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

fake birds are a bit less disturbing. maybe. though if you get confused you'd half expect them to fly away, so maybe not.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

HEY! HEY heyheyheyeheyeheyeyeyeyeyyyyyyyyyy!

Happy birthday, Nick.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

You know, you'd think that the boob page would hold my attention for hours, but I think I was there for all of three minutes.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NICK!

happy birthday nick.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

NICK! HB, dude.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

hello. you sound awake, jenny.

yeah, that boob page goes from interesting to disturbing right quick.

HAPPY BDAY NICK!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, Happy Taurean Birthday!

Where is the boob link? A scan of the FP revealed nothing for me.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

I also want to take a sec to point something out:

March 10 - huge immigration rally in Chicago goes widely uncovered by rest of US media

May 15: President Boob gives a televised speech on immigration reform

I don't know if I like what he's going to say, but this issue has unexpectedly had the acceleration of a drag racer!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Mesmerised by Boobs! (NSFW)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't been to the Mus of Science & Industry since I was a wee lass, but based on childhood memory it's my favorite public space EVER, with the fake food/nutrition exhibit and the Victorian-era street mock-up and gyroscopes in the gift shop. Totally the best. We used to go a few times a year and stay in a hotel in Lagrange (the William Tell) cos they had a huge pool and didn't mind kids running around.

And Amanda, I feel the same way about STUFF vs. fine art -- I can look at furniture and tea sets and dollhouses and manuscripts and things all day long but paintings? I'm sorry, what? I am such a Philistine.

HAPPY ONE, NICK. We share a month, but not a sign.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. There are a number of things wrong on #16.... Weird catseye nipples and horsey face.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

And let me tell you that I have no trouble at all picking out which are fake. It's like night and day.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Happy Birthday, Nick, InDeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeD.

Firstly, I'm so glad to read that Jesus is going to take care of cancer.

Secondly, Jenny, I am in love with those jam band photos. How long did you play with them? How old were you? Also, you were beautiful in junior/ high school. In middle school, I had a fro and then I had a horrible bob. At the start of high school, I used so much Aquanet that you could pick up my bangs by lifting one hair. ROCK HARD, BABY! ROCK HARD!

Thirdly, we did a lot of free stuff this weekend. It was amazing. Recap:
* Went to that Manifest thing I linked upthread where we checked out the Changes, Pharcyde, and the Detroit Cobras, an art exhibit, and an art student parade. - also got free snacks and water
* Saw MI3 & got popcorn, soda, parking for free thanks to gift certificates from Nick's boss.
* Saw the awesome talk at Quimby's by the guy who makes crazy electronic sounds (and his daughter was his assistant and she was totally into it) - also got free beer there
* Got free undies from Vickie's Secret thanks to this promotional thing I got in the mail.
* Got free samples from Sephora - for Nick!

THE END

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

we had our prom afterparty thing at the william tell!

the plasticinated anatomy exhibit at the museum of sci/ind sounded cool.

xp but there are SO MANY fake ones you start to go blind!

oooo ooo what was this promotional thing?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Though I know what you mean about their blending together. If you lose focus for a minute it starts getting confusing.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

xp but there are SO MANY fake ones you start to go blind!

I usually only "go blind" if the tits are attractive.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

2) Did Otto have to go to the game alone? It would have been untoward for me to go with you, so I didn't.

yes, went alone. it would not have been untoward to go with me, i was begging for someone to take this ticket off my hand. i was going to go up to where the others were sitting and offer the free ticket if anyone wanted to sit down close for a few innings but then i forgot where they were sitting. i was third row, behind the right hand batters box. awesome seats.

i'm not opening that link at work. note to self for when i get home.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to look at a bunch more of the breasts but not at work. How often do you get to stare at some other girl's set as minutely as you do yr own? I'm talking "count the stretch marks/freckles and calculate angle of descent" minutely. Nice one.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I would definitely go for tummy surgery. I hear there is a tummy flattening procedure that is way less invasive than a tuck. It is like mini-liposuction for the gut. Augmented by skin-tightening lasers. It's touted as a "lunch-hour" procedure, and you're supposed to be able to return to normal activities immediately after the 20 minute operation.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! Normal activities like eating a big-ass chicken fried steak?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Chicago

I love rutabagas.

Love, Jesse

Also, I love beets.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

1. Happy birthday, Nick.

2. I liked the MSI as a kid, too, but also haven't been there in like 15 years.

3. My parents live very close to the William Tell. There's a billboard for it on the Stevenson -- isn't it right around Dell Rhea's Chicken Basket?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Real boobs are saggy and wobble a lot. Fake boobs look like they would go "doink."

http://www.dilde.dk/flash-ill/flash-i1-14.html - this one has surgery scars under her nipples, poor girl.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

WHOA there is more than just boobs in some of those pictures.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

4. According to a Pitchfork interview, Sufjan Stevens and I were at the same Sonic Youth show at the Riv in 1998. He found it a life-changing experience (because he was blown away by the Ex), while I thought the whole thing was sorta tepid.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Real boobs are saggy and wobble a lot.

Well, big ones do. I used to think that I preferred the non-wobbly kind -- which means tiny, essentially -- but now I understand that wobbly is a virtue.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

WHOA there is more than just boobs in some of those pictures.

Chicks with dicks?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

There are also vaginas.

For comparison, here is every playboy centerfold ever (NSFW, obviously); http://www.whatboyswant.com/forum_read/2256356/1/10

I really liked looking at those because up until the 80s, most of the women had natural boobs and normal public hair and it was like OH! I AM sexy!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

"public hair"

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA

Technically, those women did have public hair. This makes me want to check my resume to see if I wrote of my affiliation with the "Pubic Interestl Law Association."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

no, chicks with short skirts and legs spread. xp

I'm talking "count the stretch marks/freckles and calculate angle of descent" minutely.

i saw no stretch marks. these were not breasts that occur naturally in this world. though there was some weird nipple variation.

i have been eating lots of borscht. i kind of like the idea of brightly colored food.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Can we not talk about websites with naked ladies until I get home, please?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

i miss boobs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know if I like what he's going to say, but this issue has unexpectedly had the acceleration of a drag racer!

I almost teared up last night watching the final episode of The West Wing with my mom -- never even seen more than a glimpse of the show before, but the idea of a Hispanic man being elected president (and sworn in by a female chief justice of the Supreme Court) made me feel all patriotic and shit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Do faries and elves and wood nymphs also make you feel patriotic?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry. I'm irritable. I need a cigarette.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Haha oh yeah I forgot to add "NEVER MIND THIS A TOTAL FANTASY BIZARRO AMERICA." The mere fact that there were two successive Democratic presidents was unthinkable enough.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Sarah, let's see... I was 21, maybe 22? I fronted the band for about six months, but then I moved to California and that was the end of my rock and roll career pretty much. What those photos don't convey is how TERRIBLE the band was. Truly, truly awful.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

but that's ok because jenny was teh cuet.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I am wearing a shirt that says "I'm a proud American from Delaware." I wish I still had that shirt!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning.

1) I went to the comics exhibit at the Milwaukee Art Museum yesterday and it's awesome.

2) I shaved my goatee this morning on a whim.

3) Wobbling is one of the more noble activities that breasts can aspire to.

4) Happy birthday, birthday people. Jesse, did you go to Red Lobster?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

god i'm easily distracted.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I feel a claustrophobic malaise that I can't quite explain. Could it have to do with this oppressively bleak weather?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

It is bleak, and the ten-day forecast does nothing to lift my spirits.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, Jenny, you look way younger than that!

Cheer up, Amanda.

I hope to see some of you tonight! Yay, Jenny, for being done with school this term!

Also, I think both Nick and I feel totally out of the social loop. I know we passed on kareoke, so it's our own faults maybe?, but please don't forget us when you plan things. Plus, we both got paid today. :-D Oh, and hey, you should all come to Nick/Ben's double birthday bash. And guess what?! It's not at our apartment, it's at his condo.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Stupid Smarch weather.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, Sarah -- I'm a movie-goin' mofo lately. If you wanna catch a movie sometime, I'm down.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I got very happy yesterday when it wasn't bleak and dumb all day. It was a pleasant surprise.

Where do you normally go, Kenan?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

it can rain from now until next wednesday for all i care. just be nice the 24-29.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Why then?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Where do you normally go, Kenan?

River North-ish. The River East 21, or 600 N. Michigan, or the Esquire, and occasionally I make a day of it and go to Evanston.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'll be off from work and it's the blackout so i'll be entertaining foreign visitors.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Nicholas and Sarah were the 15th most popular names of their respective genders for babies born in 2005.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Riv East 21 and Evanston both decently priced before 6 on weekdays, good for the late afternoon movie.

Happy B-day, Herr A.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my name is slippin.

Do you guys think Sarah Ammerman sounds dumb? Nick does. :-( Well, he says it's too hard to say.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Also, where can I get a decent free birthday e-greeting these days?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Saturday was our surprise uncrappy day -- I was on bike pretty much ALL day, which was perfickly lovely. And I bought a new chain and tried to put it on my bike and the subsequent faffing around made me hope that one of these days I'll get smart. See, I keep asking people, " what do I need to know in order to tackle project X?" And they keep saying, "oh nothing, it's easy, just do the obvious" and one of these days I'LL STOP BELIEVING THEM. Jesus christ. But it's done now and it was really kind of fun and I know a few more things than I did before so it's a win-win except for that 1-1/2 hours it took me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

my older sister hyphenated her last name because she thought "sheila sheetz" sounded to porn star-ish.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

One name, like Cher or Madonna - Sarahammerman.

Or Sarah Hammer Man.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

stop. sarahammermantime.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah Ammerman - Nice. Lovely. Not particularly difficult to say, I don't think.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Please Sarahammerman, don't hurt 'em.

This would be a good time for both of you to legally change your last names to Fiction. (I know one couple who did this - got married and made up a new last name for themselves.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh that would be great!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

harlan t. bobo took his wife's last name.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Sammerman.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Riv East 21 and Evanston both decently priced

Especially if you shotgun movies, which is really easy to do at both of those theaters.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nick keeps talking about Jammerman.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Just pick a new first name. We watched Basic Instinct last night, and one of the more inexplicable lines is, "Yes, my name was Lisa. Then I got married and he called me Beth."

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to myself. It started off as a joke, but he keeps talking about it.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah Ammerman - Nice. Lovely. Not particularly difficult to say, I don't think.

Are you sure you're not just saying that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I did that in Evanston weekend before last, with a double feature of 'United 93' and 'MI3'. Interesting compare-and-contrast about heroism, sacrifice, killing, etc.

Sarah, funny names aside, I'm with Jenny on the name.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

No, I wasn't just saying that. There's a glottal stop at the end of Sarah that makes Ammerman easier to hear. It's not like Shruthi Farquhar or something.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

xpost She didn't respond. Do you mean keeping Johnson? I've been wanting to get rid of the Johnson most of my life. (Oh, ha ha, double entendre)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ez is always confusing me and Jenny.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny and me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Do like someone I know of here and change "Sarah" to "Sayre". Sayre Ammerman sounds roughly the same but doesn't require the stop between names.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, thanks for your expertise. :-D

I seriously did consider changing my first name. That would probably make me go psycho though, right? I mean, suddenly having a completely different name? Anyway, the obvious change would be to use my middle name instead, Christine, but I don't like that name. I like Christy, but that's Nick's mom's name. My dad had an aunt called Stein. That's just ugly.

Laurel, Or I could just change it to Suri, or Surrey to reflect my southern heritage. ha ha

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, I meant 'manda. I knew a Farquhar once. I love that name. Nick and Sarah Farquhar of The Fake Farquhars. Nice.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I guess she probably spelled it STINE, duh.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Rename Sarah!

1. Buckwheat

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

2. Matilda

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

3. enid

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

3. Starshine

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

6. Esther Hexter

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

6. Sheila Sheetz

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

7. Roberta E.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

8. Tiger Smith

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

9. Ida Belle (Southern as all get-out)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I want to say there was a Farquhar who was on staff at Kalamazoo College, but I don't remember her first name.

Here is New Yorker writer Larissa MacFarquhar:

http://www.medill.northwestern.edu/medill/inside/macfar1.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

10. Wilma

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Wilma doesn't accurately reflect my look/ personality.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like something ending in "Belle" would not be in appropriate.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://barkbarkwoofwoof.blogspot.com/Wilma%20Flintstone.gif

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Delete space and close up. PLEASE. (XP to myself)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sure enough -- a GIS for "flintstones Betty" turns up porn on the very first page.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

What about Wilmer?

http://aimtv.tv/gallery/albums/main/Wilmer.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Gawker Hotties!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Whoah. Blue Eyeshadow on the right, there, needs to fire the stylist who told her it was a good idea to have her makeup AIRBRUSHED on.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wilma Flintstone is an image that sometimes pops into my head when I'm stoned, and it's usually in conjunction with, or followed by, an image of my mom.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

I see a distinct resemblence to the couple of the day.

http://www.nicoles-funworld.de/windowcolor/farbvorlagen/feuerstein/Fred_and_Wilma_kussend.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit, i went to elementary school with that other gawker hottie. she always had perfect hair.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

That bitch.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Well now she has an ugly flattop, so you're even.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

gawker and i have radically different ideas of what a hottie is.

i think that's the first time i've ever used that word.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

gawker and i have radically different ideas of what a hottie is.

OTM. All of those women look like... how do I put it?... Manhattanites.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, they all work for Conde Nast, so.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

not even that. i think being a, how shall i put this, a non-traditional beauty myself tends to skew my view of what is and is not attractive.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Well, they all work for Conde Nast, so.

haha Ok yeah that tears it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

they definitely do look like manhattanites. jill looks very different from the way she was when she was 12.

yay non-traditional beauty.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, let's go see The Proposition.

I think Sarah Ammerman sounds fine. Nick will get used to it.

I have known couples who have legally changed their last names to a combination of the two (ie Jammerman), taken on a whole other last name, and one dude who took his wife's last name and changed his first name to his middle name. So he want from G0rd0n Fr3dsall, which sounds like a fat kid you used to beat up on the bus, to Jay Val3nt1ne, which sounds like a rock star or a private investigator.

OH! The guy who did that is the tall lanky redhead in the band with me!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot I gave up that little window into my past. I feel all strange and exposed now...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, let's go see The Proposition.

I really hope it opens this weekend. I thought it was going to open last weekend, since it opened the week before in NY, but no go. There aren't enough art houses in Chicago.

But yeah, totally excited about this one.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

They are all the EPITOME of Manhattanites. Fuck, those women set the standards for what a Manhattanite IS in the first place. They are, like, the daughters and grand-daughters and great-great-greats of the original Ladies Who Lunched, in spirit if not in actual geneology, and quite possibly in actual geneology. This particular beauty model is observed a lot more widely from about midtown up, which is a large chunk of the reason I would never go above 34th St if not for my day job.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to get Thai. Anyone been to My Thai Presidential Towers? Because that's where I'm going.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Firstly, Eazy, you need to find another cartoon character that looks like Nick. I'd hate for him to think he looks like Fred Flinstone. It's his birthday after all.

Secondly, he was very creative in the kitchen this weekend. Our pantry was looking like Ol' Mother Hubbard's, so he made a stew with lintels (sp?), veggie stock, big hunks of potato, and frozen corn, topped with a mix of shredded cheeses we had for pizza. He never came up with a name for it though.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, it opens on the 18th at the Music Box of all places. I know Jeff and I both really want to see it, so lets make some SOLID PLANS, bro!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops, sorry. The 19th - http://www.musicboxtheatre.com/ComingSoon.html

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.leconcombre.com/biblio/img/popeye-olive-oil.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Fred/Wilma was the redhead/black-haired-guy thing is all - you don't look like Fred! and you don't look like Wilma!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tropiccomics.com/ebay/Dicktracytreasury.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Image-searching Popeye and Olive turns up many pictures like this:
http://www.1halloween.net/images/cosolive.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

You're gonna need a big pot for that lintel stew. :)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah has red hair?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Coppery?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think the word you want is "brown."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

What's going on? I don't want to read 600 messages.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

i can sum up 450 of those messages for you: boobs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

the other 150: blablablablablabla

How's Montana?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

weather's nice! i just had my first day of classes.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Have you met any decent people yet or is it too soon to tell?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm meeting with the rest of the students in my program at around 4pm this afternoon.... we'll see about this.

On the upside: I've been skiing a few times already!

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome! I was fishing to ask you bike q on Sat (see post above about taking over an hour to change chain) but I worked it out eventually.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Evan, did you see that there's a HASTINGS thread now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I got yr message!

I was floating down a river in a canoe, though, drinking beers w/pals in JXN, WY.

xp: !!!

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, it opens on the 18th at the Music Box of all places. I know Jeff and I both really want to see it, so lets make some SOLID PLANS, bro!

Alright. Friday night?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

isn't that the night of nick/ben's birthday shindig?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

It does seem weird that this movie would be relegated to the ghetto of The Music Box. Surely there are a lot of people who want to see it, if not because of Nick Cave, at least for Guy Pierce being a huge bloody badass. No other theater in town will carry it?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, duh, Nick's birthday party, dudes.
But I'm sure he would love to go see that any other day as it is a western.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, not Friday, then. Saturday. Matinee, maybe.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps. (Nick, when you read this, please check the time I have for Saturday on the calendar)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

More details of this shindig, plz. I haveb't been lurking as much as usual. Where and when?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

And should I wear pants or not? Is this a pantsless affair?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie said this phrase last night, and it's going to be my next band/album name: The Indignity of Pants.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

They really are cruel.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, Email Nick for Ben's addy. It's a double b-day party at Ben's place in Logan SQ, Friday night. Or maybe he'll just send out an e-vite or something? Nick?

I really want to go home early to nap before the show. We need to be there at 6pm (!).

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah: there is no time on the calendar, just the name of the place.

Hi gang. Thanks for the b-day wishes. I got lots of checks this year, which is good. Sarah got me a fancy new watch because I busted my old CVS Timex. I had Dunkin' Donuts for breakfast and free pizza for lunch. Only downside is I'm feeling kind of sick; don't know if its allergies or a cold coming on. I'm about to take a hot bath and maybe a nap in hopes of recuperating.

I don't know Ben's address yet. Evite is probably a good idea once I get it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Please put 5pm on the calendar for Saturday. I hope you feel better soon.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know how birds work? I went to my mom's house yesterday and found myself alone with Ally the cockatiel. It scurried up from my finger to my shoulder, pirate-position, and then refused to move. If I put my finger up there it would bite at it, because it didn't want to come down. Then it started pecking at neck (which moms insisted were "kisses").

http://static.flickr.com/56/146962420_404f48099a_m.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i need a nap.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

xp - CUTE OVERLOAD.
I need a nap too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Great picture, Jordan. You look very wary.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha. Pepper has been riding around on Nick like a parrot recently. She's a shoulder cat, but not for me. For me, she's a lapcat, neckcat, backcat...

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

And that bird looks sort of smug, doesn't it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I have been doing baby-name number-crunching all afternoon. Gah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how birds work. We had parakeets growing up. I thought they were pretty enough, but boring in the end. Then we house sat with my mom for a summer for this lady who had a parrot and a cockatiel. The cockatiel made pretty noises, but the parrot was really freaking annoying.

Ha ha, John. You do it to yourself, you do, and that's what really hurts.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

How did "Jordan" do in '05?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I bet there was a peak in "Jordan" in the early 90s.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Why?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Michael Jordan

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

The other funny thing about my mom's house is that she has a dog and a cat of equal size, so the fights are pretty hilarious. Here is a picture that I took:

http://www.weichtiere.at/images/weichtiere/kopffuesser/futurama.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Why?
-- sinful caesar sipped his snifter (fluxion2...), May 15th, 2006.

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030224/154019__my_l.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah's right: "Jordan" was nowhere higher than any of its rankings in the 1990s.

1999 30
*1998 27
1997 26
*1996 27
1995 29
1994 29
1993 28
*1992 32
*1991 29
1990 29

It's currently #46.

*Years in which Michael Jordan = NBA MVP.

(I think My So-Called Life was on in 1994-95.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

BOO YAH!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

was nowhere higher

I think I mean "was at no time higher."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Just be happy you're not a Jared.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Where is Kenan, just for my information?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm happy I was ahead of the curve!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Not in the top 1000. The only time it ever charted was in 1997, when it just barely sneaked in at 900-something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Haha: From 1979 to 2001, the name Jared was never higher than #51 and never lower than #67. Since then, it has plummeted to #137. I can't help but wonder if the Subway commercials that debuted in 2000 had anything to do with it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also Jared jewelers.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

"That's Jared"

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

HE went to JARED!!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm so bored i'm looking up random things from my childhood, like radio stations that don't exist anymore and towns i visited with my parents.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not actually working, I'm printing out charts for this serious jazz gig I have on Thursday and trying to decipher them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hi gang. Another incentive to come to Schuba's tonight: I have been informed that the RAW YANG cds have arrived, meaning that you can be the first kid on your block to own one.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

What time do you guys go on tonight?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

That's awesome. I want one. In honor of:

Yeah, I prefer raw veggies to cooked most of the time. I just read the thread on ILCooking about porkpie and it's an effective antidote to thinking about celery. I've never had porkpie, but it seems pretty scary. I would taste it, maybe, but would not make it.
-- The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (handy_manda@yahoo.com), November 4th, 2005.

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I love celery u r all gay
-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...), November 4th, 2005.

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Amanda, when it comes to vegetables I am the cookin yin to your raw yang.
-- Jordan (jordan...), November 4th, 2005.

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The Fake F1ctions: "Raw Yang"
-- Jordan (jordan...), November 4th, 2005.

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That has a nice ring to it. RAW YANG. RAWYANG. RRAAWW YYAANNGG. It's vaguely dirty.
-- n/a (nu...), November 4th, 2005.

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hahahahaha.
-- The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (handy_manda@yahoo.com), November 4th, 2005.

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My Raw Yang: A love story
-- The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (handy_manda@yahoo.com), November 4th, 2005.

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-- The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (handy_manda@yahoo.com), November 4th, 2005.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I didn't remember the actual exchange! That's pretty funny.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Weird, all this time, I thought it was Amanda that came up with Raw Yang, and it was Jordan all along. Doesn't matter, since we forgot to thank either in the liner notes. SHAZAM.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I've been trying to find old classmates online with no luck at all.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

That's okay, I'll accept a free cd.

(actually no, I'd be happy to pay for one)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Does that mean it's time to go public?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

I just received a Myspace friend request from a 14-year-old cousin who's painfully shy -- at least when I see her at family gatherings, where I've barely even spoken with her -- but her Myspace name is "FASHION" and her page is all busy and glitzed-out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm... Well, Ben didn't have access to the mastered/final versions, so those songs are probably rough mixes.

Ha ha, John.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I assume that's the album cover? Excellent.

And is that pic of clapping overdubs in progress? 'Cause that's totally my favorite part of any recording session.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

i hate pages that are so busy you can't read a goddamn thing on there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

And is that pic of clapping overdubs in progress?

Or solemn prayer. Same thing, really.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe my yang for raw vegetables has been immortalized in SONG.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

And necrophilia (“Necromancing”) is a gag for the thin; fat people fucking the dead is, like, worse."

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

That might be the worst line I've ever read in a review.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know what Derek was getting at with that -- you'd have thought it was a Passantino review.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I like the line he repeatedly disses as being awful ("It's deep how you can be so shallow"). Not that I've actually heard the record.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's something facile about the lyrics in general, though -- some of them operate on this very high-school-poetry "makes ya think, huh?" level.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I could see that.`

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

OTM, sir. Facile is a trap Cee-Lo can easily fall into.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

But since when does JOHN care about LYRICS?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

When they call attention to themselves.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just kidding. I like facile lyrics about as much as I like overwritten reviews.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Fictions -- good luck at the show tonight! From every mountainside, FREE RAW YANG.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse knows a lot about birds. Observe:

http://static.flickr.com/1/806083_848be4c387.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I know how birds work. The run on Direct Current.

Oh. Xpost, apparently.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hey stupid Chicago thread, will you please listen to a dream I had?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

i'm antsy!

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Mandee!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

hi 'manda!

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm Jenny, but that's okay. Eric calls Amanda Jenny so it would make sense that you would call me Amanda.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

My dream:

I was at work, in the kitchen. One of the cooks was unpacking and cutting up a tuna http://www.klondike9.com/images%5Cphotos%5Cmisc%5Cpetecuttingtuna.jpg.

In my dream the chef had demanded that the sashimi be 100% fresh, so the tuna was shipped live and at each order the cook would cut off a portion as the fish still lived.

The fish was in agony, and I could see the exposed end of its spinal column twisting and whipping around. It kept screaming and using its fins to pull at its face, like Edvard Munch's The Scream.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I had a somewhat similar dream the other night, in which a man in a black trench coat gave me a box of kittens and a puppy on a train ride and when we got to our destination, the man told me that I would have to kill the kittens.

Instead I decided to take them to Treehouse Animal Shelter, and keep the puppy.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

But I cried and cried in the dream until I figured out what to do. Anyway, I have a fair amount of dreams that involve animals in some sort of horrible pain. I think of them as Eraserhead dreams, because they feel weird and wrong and sad and gross like the baby in Eraserhead.

In other news, I also bought a watch to replace my scratched, then broken, then lost one. I got it on Overstock.com for like a bazillion dollars off! I like it because it has numbers.

http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/L950809.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I was really upset about the fish's suffering, and I refused to sell tuna.

I got a note saying that Flea
[img]http://charlieontheradio.net/pics/flea.jpg[/img]
requested that I meet up with the Red Hot Chili Peppers to discuss the problem.

I didn't know how to get to their place, but George Clooney and Brad Pitt
[img]http://www.clooneystudio.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/clooney-pitt.jpg.w180h142.jpg[/img] made some calls and got the address.

I was catching my jet outside of a new location of American Girl Place that was located at Hollywood Beach. All of the girls inside ran out squealing when they saw Brad and George.

The end.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

my goddamn visual aids are broken.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

visual aids is what happens when you can not be immune to strong images.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://charlieontheradio.net/pics/flea.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Take two:

I was really upset about the fish's suffering, and I refused to sell tuna.

I got a note saying that Flea http://charlieontheradio.net/pics/flea.jpg
requested that I meet up with the Red Hot Chili Peppers to discuss the problem.

I didn't know how to get to their place, but George Clooney and Brad Pitt http://www.clooneystudio.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/clooney-pitt.jpg.w180h142.jpg
made some calls and got the address.

I was catching my jet outside of a new location of American Girl Place that was located at Hollywood Beach. All of the girls inside ran out squealing when they saw Brad and George.

The end.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

I want my watch right now, not in five to seven business days.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

i checked out the boobs thread. did NOTHING for me. now when i come home 7 hours from now, alone, half in the wrapper, it may be a different story. but for now, eh.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Might be different if any of the girls were pretty. As it is, they just look like strippers.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Dime-a-dozen strippers, too, not the kind you see on HBO late at night.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

knock knock

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

xpost #11 is lovely, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to the Soul Jazz Tropicalia compilation that Jeff burned for me more than a month ago and I hadn't gotten around to listening to. So so good. I mean, I have a couple Os Mutantes records, but this comp is better than either of them.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

And speaking of 60's protest music, has nayone checked out the Bruce Springsteen sings Pete Seeger album? I'm d/l'ing it now.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Dude! I'm rebuilding credit.

I applied for a gross ghetto credit card that charged an ungodly annual fee and threatened to gang-rape my parents and cat if I didn't toe the line with timely payments.

This led to my increasing my credit-worthiness just a cunt hair, which led to Capit@al One taking an interest in my not-as-sorry-as-it-used-to-be ass.

Tomorrow I tell Fist Premier to fuck themselves.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow. This record is sloppy, noisy, incredibly happy, and makes Billy Bragg and Wilco sound like they lost a bet and now they all have to get breast implants. Go Bruce!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Much more fun and less studious than the Wilco/Bragg one. And it feels almost like a Dixieland style, having so many instruments in there. If you want to go for a mid-age-guy trifecta of good shit (w/ Bruce, Paul Simon), you should check out the Mark Knopfler/Emmylou Harris collab as well.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

This arrangement of "Oh Mary Don't You Weep" should be put on the table at the next Mama Digdown practice. Seriously. It's hot and brassy as hell.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

And it feels almost like a Dixieland style, having so many instruments in there.

It feels like a lot of things. Dixieland, Texas swing, bluegrass, and early rock and roll. I love this record!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

ERIC

You reserved our spots for Saturday, right?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

ERIC

Have you heard the new Howe Gelb? Lou Reed and Lyle Lovett had a baby, but that happened a couple albums ago. Now he's hit on the very Lovett-esque idea of putting a gospel choir behind it all. It's pretty great.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

(Of course there's a good argument to be made for Lou Reed and Lyle Lovett being very similar songwriters, anyway.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

ERIC ERIC answer me first!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Shut up, faggo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh the agony. The tittilation.

I got a tax refund check today for $782. But it's money I will never really have. The feds might have given me nigh $800, but they should have just saved me the pain and applied it directly to my debt to Illinois.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Have I told you this before?

I work with a man who is around 52, gay, white, very right wing and vehemently and proudly racist.

One day at work I publically declared my deep attraction for Eminem.

His response was, "What the hell do you find hot about a cop-killer?"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

This arrangement of "Oh Mary Don't You Weep" should be put on the table at the next Mama Digdown practice. Seriously. It's hot and brassy as hell.

YSI?

I went to the record store tonight and bought this new Bobby Previte album on impulse, because it looked political and had a decent lineup (Steven Bernstein, Charlie Hunter, Jamie Saft). However, it's on Ropeadope and it sounds...jammy. I should have bought something else. Maybe that Springsteen record (it would be my first).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

Yes, let's.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks dude. That does sound good...I didn't go see him at Jazzfest, but it's cool that he was playing this sort of style.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard that new Howe Gelb, K. - YSI a song if you like - I wanna hear it.

Jesse, I will make sure tomorrow that we are set for the wine auction on Saturday morning.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

The FF's are so good. And to hear them through a great sound system - [italian gesture of two hands to the mouth] mwah.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

Remember when I said I was jealous of your little music-swapping club? I want that record.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

Glad to hear the FFs show was good. Wish I could've made it. I ended up going to see Sam Prekop at Sub-T instead but only because he didn't go on until 11 pm.

Kenan, you are officially a dad-rock fan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer man-rock.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, she went went home with someone else. i'm about 20 minutes away from hanging myself.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

I had a weird bloody dream last night about fish and blood too! BEFORE I read about Jesse's dream!

Dream: (skip this if you're bored by other people's dreams, but read it if you're not afraid of blood)
In the dream I had this horrible facial pain and rash and then I went to the bathroom because there was blood dribbling out of my ear and, after looking in the mirror and seeing my face all swollen up on one side, I pressed my cheek and all of these fish started flying out of my right ear in a huge gush of blood. There was one really big one too, and they were all alive. They were brightly colored and flipping around in the bathtub. It was really gross.

I hope you're ok Otto. It's just one night.

I haven't bought the new Bruce album yet because I was afraid of hating it, seeing that I love both folk music (but not Pete Seeger so much) and Brooooce. But maybe I will buy it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, you are officially a dad-rock fan.

I know! It's so sad. I have to listen to something really non-dad on my way to work to cleanse the palate.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

How about Neil Diamond's new one?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

gahh i cant believe i got amanda and jenny mixed up! i should be thrown into a pit of piranas.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Fish
Fish are lucky in dreams, representing spiritual growth and transformation. Some specific fish dream meanings:
-To see fish swimming in your dream, signifies insights from your unconscious mind.
-To dream of catching a fish represents important insights about yourself and your life which have been brought to the surface.
-To dream about eating fish symbolizes your beliefs, spirituality, luck and energy. Think about the phrase, "Food for the soul."
-To see a dead or dying fish, signifies disappointment and loss of power or money.
-To dream of cooking fish indicates that you are incorporating your new realizations with your spiritual feelings and knowledge.
-To dream that you are cleaning fish suggests that you are changing your emotional expression in a way that you think makes you seem better or more acceptable to others. You are not expressing how you completely feel.
-To dream of catching a fish predicts personal success. The bigger the fish, the bigger your success will be.
-A dream of trying to hold a fish which wriggles out of your grasp, means a relationship isn't satisfying you, or you are having trouble hooking up with someone you care about. You must be prepared to lower your sights or find a new match.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Uhhh...

There's nothing about fish shooting out of my head, though, so maybe it means that prosperity will come to me in a large, bloody, painful package. Yuck.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

you have spiritual growth and transformation coming out your ears. maybe.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

They could be insights from your unconscious mind BURSTING FORTH. That sort of makes ense - if you analogize the creative process to birth, there's pain and blood involved. So you are experiencing spiritual growth, transformation, creative or intellectual development (new job, eh? eh?) but it's not a totally clean and painless process. But heck, it never is.

I think you can take solace that you recognized that there was something you needed to get out of your head and got it out of there.

There was another Freudian interpretation that said little fish represent semen. Now, I don't put much stock in Freud when it comes to gender stuff BUT that fits the creativity metaphor. See also: Zeus/Athena.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

I always, ALWAYS have dreams about airports. What does it mean?!?

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

The formula is always the same, too. I have to catch a flight, and I'm running INCREDIBLY late (usually in my pajamas etc). Anyhow, when I get to the airport, there is always something VERY DISTRACTING (an amusement park, or something like that) that makes me MISS MY FLIGHT.

I'd say 80% of my dreams follow the above formula. It started about 3 years ago.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

They were pretty big, so thankfully semen is out of the question. I can dig the "growth is painful" interpretation. It is. I am going through a phase...that makes sense I guess.

I dream about houses/apartments/living spaces most of the time.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Mandee, are you restless?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff and I both dream of tornadoes. No interpretation necessary.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Airplane / Airport
Airplane dreams usually represent creativity, freedom and health. Dreaming of a plane crash or turbulence means a project will be delayed. Airport dreams mean you are in a stage of transition.

I have similar dreams where I'm like HOURS late for something, often class or another event that is already over when the dream starts, and I'm an impossible distance away, such as at my grandparent's house in Delaware when I need to be at a doctor's appointment in Chicago and the dumbest DUMBEST things happen to keep me from getting to my appointment and it is an intensely frustrating way to pass my REM sleep.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny is my nu astrologer.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

So Mandee, I would guess that you hit a transitional phase about three years ago (are you in your late 20s?) but are resisting it to some extent, probably by distracting yourself in real life with things that you know in your heart aren't worth the trouble but that you can rationalize are worth your time. The dream seems to suggest that you know all this already though.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, well, I did work for a psychic hotline on Boulder, CO for a year so I picked up a few things.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

i have lots of dreams about travelling, because i miss travelling a lot. and about being stuck somewhere oppressive/institutional. both seem pretty literal--my subconscious is not subtle.

psychic hotline, omg.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

I was a customer service manager.

my subconscious is not subtle. Heh. See: Jeff's tornado dreams.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

haha wow, you are my nu astrologer, too! your interpretation is pretty OTM. I am also 26, but 3 years ago I did start going through a transitional phase that.. is still transitioning.

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

I was floored when j3ssa started talking about her recent trip to an astrologer. Floored, and then I gave her a ton of shit, and then I listened. Really interesting.

She's a crab, you see.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

her: "I'm a crab. I carry my home on my back." (allusion to her compulsive travel habit)

me: "So if you're a crab, what does it mean that I'm a scorpion?... Nevermind. Don't answer that."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, I am exhausted. Monday Night Drinking Club is bad for Tuesdays.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, yeah I was a good monkey at the FF show last night and didn't drink too much, but I am v. tired this morning.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

I did. BLech.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

At least Schuba's has stopped allowing people to smoke in the music room -- that makes it like 1,000X better. I love Schuba's.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream I had to fill in as the role of George H.W. Bush in a theatrical adaptation of his presidency. I then dreamt that I woke up and wrote down the cast list and all of the 1991-era pop songs that were used in the play, but of course I didn't actually do this, so now all I remember is Benazir Bhutto and Slowdive.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Slowdive + GW Bush = magic

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, and "Smells Like Teen Spirit."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait - George HW Bush. Hence the early 90's. I get it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Hippie singer, hot(line) psychic...oh Jenny, what a life you've led.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

My dreams have been nice lately, which is a good change of pace from my usual nightmares.

The other week, for example, I was daydreaming about when I went to Vegas with my work and was just sunning by the pool (captured here:)
http://static.flickr.com/29/54166739_29312f4cfc_m.jpg
So then that night I had this dream that seemed to go on forever where I was just sunning by the pool and it was the perfect weather and everything was very serene..

Then a few days ago I was really missing my family. I was telling Nick I was sad because I didn't know when I'd be with all of them at the same time again. That night I had a dream where we were all sitting around a living room together, just sitting there not do anything. And I smiled and thought to myself, Yay, we're all together again! and just sort of basked in familial love.
THE END

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

I do not have dreams like that about my family. I do not like my family.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

OH I FORGOT TO TELL YOU ALL. They do still make Teen Spirit deodorant. I saw it in Dominick's on Sunday.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I forgot to tell you that too. Caribbean Cool in the hizzouse.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

btw, sarah, that's a great picture.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Inspired by a conversation with EZ last night, I looked up the video for Too Young to Fall in Love by Motley Crue and OMG. So bad. Or totally great? I'm really torn, here.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ghy94_MlEUg&search=motley%20crue

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Are those women fitting the Crue for costumes or are we to imply that Nikki Sixx is getting a blow job from a Japanese girl? And "Now I'm kill you/ see your face turning blue:" bad lyric, or worst lyric?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

OMGOMG the video to Looks that Kill is ever worse! Or better! Stay away evil hair metal cave women! VINCE NEIL HAS FIRE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uU23cznEs0

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

BUT THEN! Compare and contrast 80s American metal to GERMAN 80s metal. The Germans don't dress up like women and wear make up and hair spray and then in turn feel compelled to make videos that communicate their dominance over the very gender they are emulating in their dress. They just ROCK OUT and BANG HEADS and sing about BALLS and WALLS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDxpqOvZ1Y

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

If they build a wall between the US and Mexico I say we all go down and BANG OUR HEADS on it and BRING IT DOWN with the power of HEAVY METAL.

Okay, I have to go to the gynecologist now. HA!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzRmWQEc2ec&search=Helloween

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Bah. I failed in my attempt to listen to non-dad-rock on my way to work. I listened to the new Rolling Stones album. I should just get married and start making babies.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. You should make me a dad-rock mix.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Sloth bears are kinda freaky looking.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I would so rule at making a dad-rock mix. I should totally do this. I bet I could even find a Sting song that would knock your socks off.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

And then I will send a copy to my mom, because my dad would hate it. Momrock.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

THANK YOU my mom likes music a lot more than my dad ever has. My dad walked out on a VU show in Cleveland because he thought they were "more folk." He walked out!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

He did not have the historical perspective that we enjoy now. I could see myself walking out on a VU show. "Man, these guys are sloppy."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

THANK YOU my mom likes music a lot more than my dad ever has.

It's not that, it's just that my dad would not like Sting. He does not like to think of himself as old and lame.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I see. Well, I object to the "dad rock" moniker.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

My dad likes the newest Green Day album. We have that in common.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

My stepmom listens to dad rock. My dad listens to dad blooze. My mom listens to, uh, Shlock Rock.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys.

My dad likes dad rock. I like some of it too, especially old ZZ Top.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

ZZ Top is not dad rock you philistine!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think momrock is different than dadrock, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Same basic stuff, differing levels of vagina.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I agree -- I just didn't want anyone to think that my usage of the term "dad rock" was needlessly sexist or anything.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

John, are you going to YB/Cougar tonight?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I just had a short meeting with my boss and the graphic designer about Arial vs. Verdana. I lost. We're sticking with 10 point (points! for godsake) Arial instead of my beloved 11px Verdana. Bullocks.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Needlessly sexist: referring to women as "differing levels of vagina"?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Don't know yet, Jordan. Technically, that Booker T. article is due tomorrow, but the way I've been feeling lately makes me feel like I'd probably just end up staring at the computer being unproductive. Not sure going to a club would do much for my physical state, but at least I'd be doing something. And Kr. is going to be there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago.

I have nothing to say.

Just wanted to let you know I'm alive.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Needlessly sexist: referring to women as "differing levels of vagina"?

What? No, that's the difference between dadrock and momrock. And it was a joke, see.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever, wiener.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

K: as body text or headlines?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

;)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Cool. I'm glad your girlfriend is going to go even if you wuss out. :>

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

K: as body text or headlines?

body text. I like Arial for headlines.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Gasface to Arial body text.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray for slang that no-one outside a small circle really understands!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

(One idea for the knock-your-socks-off Sting song for the dad-rock mix is Johnny Cash's cover of his song 'I Hung My Head' -- heard this on the radio with a few folks and we all were like 'What, Sting wrote this?' Pretty much sounds like a mid-century murder ballad a la 'Long Black Veil'.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

No kidding. They ain't hearing it, though. The graphic designer likes it because it's "close to Frutiger." Which it isn't, and it's ugly, and it's not very readable, but I'm not going to call her a hack to her face or anything.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cool. I'm glad your girlfriend is going to go even if you wuss out. :>

She's had her ticket for weeks! She likes brass bands more than I do!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray for slang that no-one outside a small circle really understands!

Was Elroy Cohen in your small circle?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

K., thanks for sending that Howe Gelb song - what a cool arrangement with the choir.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

I love that you're dating a brass band fan, John.

You should listen to a C0ugar song or two before deciding if you're going to go or not.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Was Elroy Cohen in your small circle?

No, maybe I got it wrong. I only ever heard a couple of dudes say that (Gasface.)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

P.W. Botha gets a big gas face.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.beastiemania.com/whois/3rd_bass/3rd_bass_02.jpg

Kick 'em in the grill, Pete. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Bass.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Where are they now?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I should stop being so cryptic. Late 80s, early 90s hip hop group 3rd Bass did a song called "Gas Face" on their 1989 record The Cactus Album in which they dissed people, including Elroy Cohen (meaning record company dude Lyor Cohen, see: Was there ever a thread about the Atlantic Records Lyor Cohen "restructuring") and MC Hammer (but not members of De La Soul), by giving them the "gas face."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/3rdBassTheCactusAlbum.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

My friend Nate got a Gas Face tattoo. As far as I knew, that was where it began... I AM SO BEHIND THE TIMES>

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I like those C0ugar songs a lot - seems like a funny fit with a brass band, but hey, variety.

xpost - (and P.W. Botha, then-current South African leader, got the gas face too - never knew who Elroy Cohen was, Jenny, thanks)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

No Gas Faces for Plugs One Two and Three

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

No Gas Face for DJ Subroc
No Gas Face for KMD
Hammer, shut the fuck up! Gas Face!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

THANK YOU YOU TUBE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF4IQlsm7Ds&search=3rd%20Bass

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Jenny you rule

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

seems like a funny fit with a brass band, but hey, variety.

Variety, and the fact that they share a drummer (and are bros from Madtown).

One of the guitarists from C0ugar is the guy I'm doing that gig with on Thursday, playing his music.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Man, they got eberybody for that video.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I've gone from hair metal to 3rd Bass. I had BOTH their albums and wore them out. Steppin' to the AM! Wheeeee!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I was unaware of the Beastie Boys/3rd Bass feud, though. That's disappointing. I think they both should know better.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

3rd Bass >> Beastie Boys

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I don't know. Check Your Head was one of my favorite records in the world for a long time.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I know, but in retrospect, I didn't know shit on shit about what the Beastie Boys were doing, and how bad they actually were at it. I mean, they kinda suck, and always did.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh please. Stop hatin'. You love it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

The Beastie Boys are a better band than they are rappers.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Not hatin'. Not getting into it, really, because I will have tomatoes thrown at me. Let's just say they're terrible rappers, and I cringe when I listen to pretty much anything by them now. And then we'll talk about happier things.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

MC Serch is cute.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I love the name MC A.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Battle 1989: Paul's Boutique vs. It's A Big Daddy Thing

You know my answer already.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Compared to most live instrument-based hip-hop, Check Yr Head is a great sounding record.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

CHILI DOG LUNCH

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Tums for dessert?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I could use some Tums. I had taco lunch.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Cooks of ILX:

Is it reasonable to put some butter and maybe a dash of cayenne (or something else?) and salt and pepper on corn on the cob, wrap it in foil, and roast it in the oven at, say, 450? And if so, for how long? Note: the corn on the cob that I have is already husked, and therein lies the real crux of my cooking conundrum.

Jesse: I'm coming over in ten minutes.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have any Tums, but I know my co-worker does. Since she is currently on vacation, how wrong would it be to borrow them from her desk?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Trivia from Jenny's link up there - [3rd Bass's Pete] Nice retired and opened a baseball memorabilia store in Cooperstown, New York, cited by some sources as the second largest collection open to public display (aside from the official Baseball Hall of Fame).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent lunch, and I recommend this to anyone within walking distance of Clinton and Munroe: The Presidential Market at Presidential Towers. You get 12 oz of really good soup (I had the Yankee pot roast yesterday and the chicken dumpling today, but they have, like, 20 soups every day), chips, a huge and fresh and loaded ham or turkey sandwich (sprouts!), and it all comes to exactly five dollars at the register, eliminating the need for math or change. That's a nickel cheaper than a smaller, greasier sandwich and chips at Potbelly. And you don't get soup at Potbelly.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

xp re: corn
Hmmm - I dunno, that sounds ok to me but would it have to cook for a really long time? Usually it boils in 10-15 min, right? So if I would have to cook it for an hour at 450, I would rather boil for 15 min and be done with it. The difference in taste wouldn't be enough for me to wait an hour for an ear of corn.

PS -- I think I'm going to post my recipe for samosa filling to the blog someday. I made samosas and they was gooooood.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. I know you can boil them partially husked (although I usually just de-husk), but I've never done corn in the oven. Seems like it would be fine though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

If it doesn't take that long to roast corn, then surely your butter + cayenne would be delish.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

And you don't get soup at Potbelly.

WTF are you talking about. The Potbellies I've been to have 3 soups and their "Real Chili".

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, get your puckery ass in gear.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Food network says 30-40 on 350 in the husk.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I would love a samosa recipe.

I had really good shrimp and grits at my dad's place over the weekend, and he just sent me the recipe. I haven't made it myself yet but I'll post it to the blog.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Correction: you do not get soup, a sandwich and chips for five dollars at Potbelly.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Blog be updated.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'M JENNY!

I don't boil corn for that long - like five or seven minutes maybe? Anyway, I've got to cook collards for an hour so I might as well put the corn in the oven. I'll let youse know how it turns out.

Jesse and I are going to the planetarium! Goodbye forever!

-JENNY

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know if I boil corn for that long, I was guessing since I don't remember the last time I made corn on the cob.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Kr. just got offered the job she's been wanting! :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Rockin' good news!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

WOO HOO!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of job is it?

You should go out with her and celebrate tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Worst Jobs Listed. Ass-gas Sniffer Ranked Tops
NEW YORK-- Do you think your job stinks? You could be a Flatus Odor Judge.
That's just one of several of the Worst Jobs in Science according to the editors of "Popular Science" magazine, who just compiled the list for the latest issue.
Topping the chart for worst jobs are the odor judges at a Minneapolis gastroenterologist -- they're are paid to smell people's farts to determine potentially critical medical symptoms.
The second crappiest science job is being a Dysentery Stool-Sample Analyzer. That's a person who opens stool canisters and analyzes feces to test the effectiveness of the kit.

Meanwhile, the Barnyard Masturbator, a researcher who collects semen for insemination purposes, comes in third, beating out jobs like Prison Rape Researcher, Carcass Cleaner and Fish Counter.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

"beating"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

So is that MF Doom or his dead brother doing the guest verse in "Gas Face"? I think it's MF Doom but I'm not sure.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I've been told it is indeed MF Doom.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think the show is going to happen for me tonight. I should really at least begin my article, even if I don't write the whole thing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm all for you getting some criticism done, but it would be such a sweet double-feature for you two - the Tortoise-y band followed by the brass band. Meeting of the minds.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Totally!

Although, I guess I am looking forward to reading the article.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still at work. I should just set up a cot here.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at work, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

When are you leaving? Feel like a beer?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at home making biscuits.

Which I almost accidentally made with low-fat margarine instead of butter. Blech.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm leaving in like five minutes. Beer is tempting, but I'd rather not get home any later than I already will be.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ok. Another time.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

My neighbor's oven isn't working so she is using mine to make chocolate chip cookies. She brought me some. They are absolutely delicious!

They seem like cool people. They're young and white.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

STOP EVERYTHING! Valley of the Dolls is on Oh!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

O! Oxygen. The Oprah Channel. Whatever. VotD is on it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

I hope they follow it with Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. (Which is another great movie night option that we own. We really need to get cracking on these movie nights.)

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's something facile about the lyrics in general, though -- some of them operate on this very high-school-poetry "makes ya think, huh?" level.

That's the point of "Who Cares?", which you'll notice from the end of every verse being "and I could go on and on and on.... but who cares?"

That is all. Cee-Lo may be cheesy sometimes, but I see nothing wrong with that.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

T/S: The best album about LA

Guns n' Roses Appetite for Destruction or Steely Dan Gaucho?

I think there's an ILM thread there, but I haven't started one in way too long.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

I thought of it while reading the VV review of the new Fagen album:

But Fagen's triumph of rendering post–9-11 New York most recalls how perfectly Steely Dan caught LA on 1980's 'Gaucho.' Nothing in pop music outdoes Patti Austin's and Valerie Simpson's background voices there, floating through and dramatizing the maybe horrible ease and questionable unblemishedness of the money and sex and drugs and surgery of West Coast high life.

Horrible ease: "Wake up late, honey, put on your clothes / And take your credit card to the liquor store"...

Replace "questionable unblemishedness" with "unquestionable ugliness."

Money and sex and drugs: All very well represented on Appetite. "I can tell you honey / You can make my money tonight."

Replace "West coast high life" with "West Hollywood gutter."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hey... whose arm can I twist to go see Steely Dan and Michael McDonald with me?

http://www.donaldfagen.com/tour.php

A night of pure yacht. Come one, you know you want to.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have dreams that the cats escape. That means nothing.

Dinner was good.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

I sent an Evite for bday party on Friday. If you didn't get one, it means I don't have your email address in my address book, but you should come anyhow.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

That's the point of "Who Cares?", which you'll notice from the end of every verse being "and I could go on and on and on.... but who cares?"

But even that sentiment itself seems facile to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like the suicide song.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

Remember Crafster.org?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

www.ChristopherLowell.com

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

Cool craft idea

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/naftey/100_1850.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/itsonlywhoweare/flower/flowers005.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

where's jenny? i need to ask her to analyze two dreams I had where my nipples were sliced off with blades. in the first, they were cut off with those cigar things & in the second, it was a razor blade. what does it all mean?!?!?!?!?!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thisintothat.com/gallery/funniest/humpty-dumpty.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

nipples could represent the erotic part of the breast, and also the source of milk in a lactating breast.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nipples, ever pointing forwards, represent your sense of direction in life.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

i thought i was *finally* letting go of my mother.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

I have dreams that the cats escape. That means nothing.

It means you're afraid of the cats escaping. Maddie has the same ones.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

My dreams were all over the place last night. Road trip, vacuuming, Kevin McDonald, WTF.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

I dreamt that the shower was on the floor directly above the laundry area, and after a bunch of people got washed up, I went down to check on my sister's laundry (because she wouldn't do it herself?) and the whole basement was flooded.

I...I can't even start with that one. There was ACTUAL HOMEOWNER-LIKE ALARM at the flooded basement, not, like, "OH NOES my dream basement!", more like trying to remember where I'd stored the wet/dry shop vac. Also, I am resonsible for things even in my dreams: in a flash, I knew that the shower basin didn't have a lip on it to keep water in, THAT'S why it flooded...and that I should have imagined a better shower so it was ALL MY FAULT.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's deep.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Dude.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm gonna see if my landlord will let me set up a wood shop in the basement. I think she will. If so, look out world.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

We have achieved COFFEE ON BLUE SHIRT STATUS.

Fuck you, coffee.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, coffee, I could never stay mad at you.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

ha! that's sweet of you to be so forgiving of the coffee, jordan.

i'm at a temp job where I can be online all day! or, nearly all day. i have minor data entry to do. but my boss is very nice.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

How can I stay mad at you?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm tidying my hard drives today. I found a video called "Xiu Xiu - The French Fry Fiasco" whose thumbnail was a girl with pink hair making out with a goateed dude.

Turns out it is a porn video.

Weird.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Kelsey. I think I'm going to see Kerry on Saturday!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Kelsey. Bullshit temp jobs are great in small doses.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

I work today at this joint, tomorrow & friday i work 1/2 days near the mall of america. then on monday i leave for china! can't really get more small dosey than that!

john: where are you seeing the rabbi?! tell him 'hello!'

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to Br1an Tall3ric0's wedding, and so it looks like I'm going to take the train to Detroit early Saturday morning. The Rabbi is gonna pick me up at the train station and hang out for a couple hours before I have to be at the ceremony.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Wow! His wedding is this weekend?! Crazy! Are you taking Krista with you? Probably not, right? You probably already RSVP'd.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

You guys have a friend called "The Rabbi"?! Is he a contract killer?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Are you taking Krista with you? Probably not, right?

Nah, it's a little too soon. I don't even think she's going to come to Matt and Jen's wedding since it'd probably just be overwhelming. And Matt is concerned about numbers.

I'm not really sure how the Rabbi got his name! We didn't bestow it upon him, another friend did. He's not remotely Jewish, but he is going to graduate school in theology this fall, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

This photo of ILXor Andrew Farrell bears an uncanny resemblance to the Rabbi:

http://static.flickr.com/4/5704581_e6c7ec968f.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think I know how he got his name.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

In that case, I can see how he got his name.

(hint: it's the beard!)

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

You might be right -- I just assumed there was more of a story behind it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning! I slept in! And all morning I kept having panicky dreams that 1) I had a final due at 11 and 2) I was supposed to be at work. Jesus.

Then I came to check my email and got an email from my long lost BF from second and third grade when I went to the redneckiest school to ever alienate a weird chubby second and third grader. She's been married for 15 years and has a 10 year old and a 14 year old and nu-metal on her myspace page.

And that is what happens to little girls who stay in southern Delaware.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

biscuits and gravy and fried eggs

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

So John, did Kr have fun at the show last night?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Check it out: lactic acid is good for you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, that's nuts about the BFF. But I guess you have a sizeable web presence, so you're not too hard to find.

Like, for example.

Jordan, I haven't talked to her yet -- I will let you know.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

JENNY! Analyze my nipple dreams!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

please!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

(Okay, she thought the show was "lots of fun." I am listening to Cougar on Myspace right now, and yeah of course it's totally up my alley.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

and bacon too.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

ILX is slooooooow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I know!

I think now I will boil some cabbage, rutabagas and potatoes for upcoming meals.

Those three together = one of my favorite meals.

Lotsa butter on the rutabagas and potato and cider vinegar on the cabbage. Yum.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the dream dictionary says:

Nipple
To see nipples in your dream, represents your infantile needs and a regression into dependency on others. To dream that you are squeezing any kind of liquid out of your nipples, refers to your negative feelings about relationships. You are feeling insecure physically. Also see "Breasts".
Breasts
Breasts in dreams symbolize nurturing. To dream of being topless in public means you feel anxious and out of control about something. If you dream of getting breast implants, someone is taking advantage of your loving nature - be very careful with giving your affections. Also see "Breast Feeding"
Breast Feeding
To dream of breast feeding symbolizes your primal need to care for others, and be cared for in return. If you dream of having trouble breast feeding a starving baby, this represents your dependence on others. You are experiencing some deficiency in your life that needs immediate attention and gratification.

So I think one question is who cut off your nipples? If you did, I would say that it represents anxiety around being emotionally or financially dependant on L while you get adjusted to living in a new city - I don't totally know your situation, but if he's the main source of your entertainment and friendship, you might be feeling like you need to gain some independence on that realm. OR if he's anything like me around finals, he's needy as hell and maybe you're feeling like it's your turn to be needy now.

If someone else cut off your nipples, I'd examine anxiety around going to China - a worry about your personal safety or even your emotional safety and what travelling to a strange country is going to do to you.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Totally slow.

(Okay, she thought the show was "lots of fun." I am listening to Cougar on Myspace right now, and yeah of course it's totally up my alley.)

Haha, good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I knew you were the one to ask! You nailed my teeth falling out dreams on the head. Someone else cut my nipples off in both dreams . . . I guess I am feeling some anxiety about going back to China . . . my language is rusty & I know that country has changed A LOT in the 8 years since I've been there. I also think that the insecurity is right b/c I feel huge right now & I haven't been good about exercising AT ALL. I just feel gross lately.
Analyzed!!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/52/148218622_50b749b2b8_o.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, Jenny!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

You betcha!

You could also pinpoint some of the anxiety if you can identify who cut your nipples off - it might not necessarily be axiety about the actual person, but about some aspect of yourself that the person represents. So like if I dreamed that Hulk Hogan cut off my nipples, the dream might represent how my nurturing, nice side is very upset at the way my aggressive, law-type side is bowling over all the things I thought were good about me. Or more obviously that my law career is destroying my chance to have a kid, something like that.

Girl, I feel you about the feeling huge thing. I got weighed at the gynecologist yesterday and I have gained 30 pounds since I started law school. THIRTY!!!!!! Granted, 20 of those were in my first semester but still. DAMN.

And I just gained 10 more looking at Jesse's breakfast.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Did you make that, Jesse? If so, NICE WORK.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, something tells me you might like Volta Do Mar.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

That's the point of "Who Cares?", which you'll notice from the end of every verse being "and I could go on and on and on.... but who cares?"

But even that sentiment itself seems facile to me.

That's fair; can't argue with that. It's not one of my favorite songs on the album, so it's relative strength or weakness is kind of moot to me. My faves are the (potential) singles: "Crazy," "Smiley Faces," and "Just a Thought," and the insanely hyper ones: "Go Go Gadget Gospel," "Transformer," "Storm Coming," and, to a lesser extent, "Feng Shui."

"Boogie Monster," "The Last Time," and "Gone Daddy Gone" are also fun.

The only ones I wouldn't immediately skip to are "Who Cares," "St. Elsewhere," "On-Line," and "Necromancing." But I'll listen to them if I'm listening to the entire album, just to take a breather.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I had the teeth falling out dream the other night. First time in a long while.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think i've ever had a teeth falling out dream. i had a weird dream about being made to move into a big house but i don't remember it very well.

jesse, i covet your breakfast.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, I made that. Then I ate it. Then I grabbed another biscuit and ate it too, with butter and jelly. Then I gained a little weight.

Did I mention that I weigh 166 and I'm 5'6"?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've had plenty of teeth-falling-out dreams. It's odd that it's such a common dream for lots of people.

I think the thrust of my Booker T. article is going to be that they only got better as they aged, and it's a shame that they broke up when they did, because Melting Pot is sort of incredible.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember if the first dream was anyone I knew. In the second, it was some mystery creepizoid that was anally raping me & my two friends & forcing us to watch. The friends were also faceless/nameless. They were just "my friends."

I woke up completely disturbed.

I'm sorry about the 30 pounds! I would have NEVER guessed, if that makes you feel any better. At least you can easily pinpoint the trigger, though, even if that's but a mild comfort. Is it hard having Jeff be on a health kick & be so engrossed in school that you can't really think about much else? God. Weight is such an issue, isn't it? When I got my new MN license, I thought, "well, I guess i should just be real about those pounds i've gained since i got my IL ID straight out of college. blech."

jesse: aren't you quite muscular? that's not a lot of weight.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

jesse, i have no concept of what that means, except that you're my height and could probably snap me like a twig.

actually, i had a really big desk in my room in my dream, and i was like, uh, i don't need a desk at all, much less a ridiculously huge one, and the person i was with was like YOU WILL HAVE THIS DESK AND LIKE IT. my subconscious--not subtle. feeling pressured by family (who'd forced me into this house in the dream) for not having a Very Successful Career. i would think.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I'm like 5'8" or 5'9" and weigh close to 200 (though I haven't actually weighed myself in months).

John, I will check out Mars Volta Do Mar tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I firmly disagree with your Booker T. thesis but I look forward to reading the article anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well I'm 6'5" and I weigh 260. So, take from that what you will. I had the deli's special curried chicken salad sandwich today, and it was satisfying if not entirely amazing. The breakfast looked pretty amazing. I'm rambling. xpost, stupid slow loading

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Very Successful Career

This reminds me, Kr's new job is more like a REAL JOB than either of us currently have, and she'll have to wear suits to work and go on business trips and stuff, and while I'm ecstatic for her, I'm also self-conscious about not having a job like that because it's so easy to measure your self-worth by the standard of a successful, high-paying career. I mean, I know that lifestyle is not for me, but it still makes me wonder if I'm just being lazy.

Btw: 5'8", 175.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I want to be sickly skinny. I want to look a little unhealthy.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I am not talking about my weight on the internet.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

God me neither. Or not with any particularities. Gross.

Kelsey, that's a horrible dream! That's the kind of dream that would mess me up all day, for sure. And thank you for not noticing my expansion. Jeff's not that health conscious - he just doesn't eat much. I think I'll lose some weight this summer just because I'll be able to cook more, and take more yoga classes. I hope...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

That is a really horrible dream, Kelsey -- that's how I felt after the dream I had about fish, only mine didn't involve rape or disfigurement (not really), just tons of blood.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago where'd you go? It's raining out and I just don't feel like leaving the house today. So I'm not. La la la!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Raining? Really? It's sunny and 72 here in the loop.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I had a good lunch hour, stopped by the drum store and then got my gumbo fix.

Bored now. I wish I had some really urgent work to do, but I just don't.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I had a lunch hour and a half. But most of that was walking to and from the train and being on the train. I spent maybe 10 minutes at home. Had fun listening to Duke Ellington, though. Very good walking down the street music.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

La la la la! Sun here! And drinx after work, and new iChat fun and life as a Limited Liability Girl is awesome.

Also I am about to turn 30 and I don't have any plans and I don't think anything is going on, really. I think I'm totally okay with this, but then I get all, "but if you regret it later you can't go back" etc and I can't have people over to my apt anyway (cos of roommate stuff). This isn't a question, really. I'm just musing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's overcast and getting cooler.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

QUESTION AND ANSWER FORMAT ONLY.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm awkwardly writing cover letters and not enjoying it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Kenan, for a second I thought the community vibe was failing. Or something.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't that one of Tracer's problems with the Chicago thread, that it doesn't conform to the question-and-answer format upon which ILX was founded?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Why are you asking if you can quote the reference? YOU KNOW IT WAS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

See, perfect: I questioned, you answered.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with John way upthread about Melting Pot being great. I like the long arrangements, like they're really stretching their legs. And Booker T's organ sounds downright *cruel* in places. Please Booker, don't hurt 'em.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I like the long arrangements, like they're really stretching their legs.

Yes, this can only be good for them, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

My beef with Melting Pot is this: when they do syncopated J.B.-ish beats, it sounds just a bit awkward and dated. It's no use trying to compete with J.B. and the Meters on their own terms, because BT&tMG's magic was in funkifying incredibly simple things. You know, playing 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 and putting it right in the fucking pocket, that was Alan Jackson's thing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/images/concerts_alanjackson.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

My beef with early Booker T. is "Oh, look it's another 12-bar blues jam ZZZZZZZ." (Maybe I should've done this on the Meters instead, as I'd been thinking.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Vo ist EZ? I have sent him a "gmail" and impatiently await a reply.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum22/al-jackson.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I have trouble sometimes thinking of the percussion/rhythm use of "pocket" with any seriousness. It just sounds silly to me, I don't know.

xpost: The kick I get out of that is, they were some of the guys who defined that style for so many people, which is (unfortunately) why you think "ZZZZZZZ!"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Also, if the Musicbox is playing The Proposition as a Sunday matinee, would that work better for those interested in seeing it than a Saturday matinee? I know a lot of people had "things to do."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

"things"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't figure out why "Green Onions" works in spite of the formula, though. Because it totally does.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it is kinda silly, but it's also very useful and real, I think. In the pocket, in the cut, in the groove, in the...crevice?

Jaymc, are you including any of their work as a back-up band for this, or just the instrumentals?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Just the instrumentals. That already gives me plenty to work with.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

John, I meant to tell you that today I am working in BLAINE.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ha!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

At my college radio station, I taped an LP of "Booker T and Priscilla" (his wife) - sounded like a home recording of drums, vocals, organ.

I just tried to find the name of the album and found out more Wikipedia trivia - Booker T produced both Ain't No Sunshine and Willie Nelson's Stardust.

There are also three really good songs that Booker T plays and solos on - all about 6 minutes long - circa 1990. The names and artists won't sound enticing, but they're all great slow-burn songs, believe it or not - "I Cover The Waterfront" (John Lee Hooker, 'Mr. Lucky'), "Set The Prairie On Fire" (Shawn Colvin, 'Fat City'), and "Mighty Trucks of Midnight" (Bruce Cockburn, 'Nothing But A Burning Light'). All worth 99 cents.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't figure out why "Green Onions" works in spite of the formula, though. Because it totally does.

My theory is: a) because it's not noodly -- even the guitar fills are pretty consistent and memorable, and b) because it's a groove. And not a very common tempo, either.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't figure out why "Green Onions" works in spite of the formula, though. Because it totally does.

It's just so goddamn tight, so exactly, perfectly behind the beat, just enough to give it that little pop. It's stupid hot.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

(ooh im writing you back now jenny). Something similar about 'Green Onions' and 'Take Five' makes them both hit songs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's the way the organ gulps at the beginning of the line, too.

(xpost) I love "Take Five."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

OTM.

xpost to Kenan

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I NEED TO HEAR THIS!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Green Onions"? You've heard it, I promise you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe what works about 'Take Five' and 'Green Onions' is, like Jordan says, the emphasis of groove over flash - more Snoopy than Jimmy Smith, more cool than hot.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

More weed than coke.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was gonna ref Jimmy Smith in my article. First time I heard "Green Onions" = Get Shorty soundtrack.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

kenan, i think my general lack of exposure to things would depress you.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know that "Green Onions" is terribly ubiquitous in the way that, say, "Who Let the Dogs Out" is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

1. Chilli Hot - Us3
2. Green Onions - Booker T. & The MG's
3. Nose Punch - Get Shorty-Various Artists
4. Stink (Short Version) - John Lurie
5. I Had My Chance - Morphine
6. To Be Alive & In A Convertible - John Lurie
7. Panacea - Greyboy
8. Chili At Airport (Part I) - Get Shorty-Various Artists
9. Vesuvio's - John Lurie
10. Bo's Veranda - Morphine
11. Can't Be Still - Booker T. & The MG's
12. Bo At Airport - Get Shorty-Various Artists
13. Romantic Walk - John Lurie
14. Chubb Sub - Medeski Martin & Wood
15. Chili At Airport (Part II) - Get Shorty-Various Artists
16. Chili & Karen At Sunset - Get Shorty-Various Artists
17. Stink - John Lurie

I love John Lurie!

(Us3!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, you've probably heard it in tv commercials and stuff without knowing it. It's good to have a copy though, in case you ever need to walk down a street and feel like a bad-ass.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

It's on my iPod, fo sho.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, I just found a version of "Green Onions" as done by The Ventures over the office iTunes network.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

there's a building in downtown mpls that says, 'foshay' along the top. since spotting this, i've started to substitute 'fo sho' for 'fo shay.'
just a small tidbit for ya.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Kenan and Dan, how do you feel about Verdana? TS: Arial vs. Tahoma vs. Verdana.

(I like Verdana, but it either looks too small or too big for what I'm working on)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

That's the Foshay Tower - on the ground floor in a glass case is the sheet music for a march that Sousa wrote for its opening (1930s). When I was a kid, while the Iran hostage crisis was going on, there was a big yellow ribbon around the top floor.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Verdana is good, for one of those widely-available fonts. I always thought it worked better for body text than Arial despite their similarities. I used a lot of Georgia back in the day too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Verdana makes the best body text -- I like it at 11px. It's a little too big at 12px, I think. It's an interesting font, really -- depending on what size you set it at, it has a totally different look. But it's still readable even at a smaller size. Key trick: instead of going up another px size, try increasing the line spacing. 140% is usually enough, but sometimes I go to 150%.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's Leaf's favorite building downtown.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. Thx guys.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

While we're talking about font sizes, I think Stylus' font is WAY TOO SMALL for as wordy as those people wanna write. I can hardly stand to look at it so I don't read much. There's only so much going-blind a person can take.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

In Firefox, try Ctrl +. On a Mac, Apple(command) +.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tholt.com/images/foshay.jpg

I love that building.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's better. Thanks. I didn't know I could do that!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

In IE I know you can do ctrl + mouse scrollwheel as a shortcut to change the text size...is there a keyboard-only equivalent?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

ha! is that your own photo, kenan?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan: top 3 lunch spots in Madison. GO!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ian's is probably one of them . . .

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

While we're talking about font sizes, I think Stylus' font is WAY TOO SMALL for as wordy as those people wanna write.

It's not too small, it's poorly spaced and a totally unacceptable color. Imagine a Stylus that was a little more like this:

http://giganticmag.com/stylus/

(Someone bug Todd about this. Amanda has an excellent point.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I like black text a lot better than grey - what's the point of torturing readers? Now that we've started this conversation, could we turn down the verbosity meter a couple notches?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I realize that's probably asking too much.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

That is beyond my area of expertise.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Are we talking downtown only? If so,

1. Ian's Pizza (Frances St., State St.)

2. Marigold Kitchen (Capitol)

3. Takara (Japanese, State St.)

Also Cafe Soleil on the capitol square, feat. cheap lunch versions of the L'Etoile menu (most expensive/possibly best place in town)

If you're not limited to downtown, I've got more.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've also heard Frida Mexican Grill (on State St. near the capitol) is great, but I haven't made it there yet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, replace Takara with Restaurant Muramot. That is some serrrrrrrious sushi.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Muramoto, I mean. On King Street off of the capitol.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks! A friend is coming down for a visit and wanted to know some good places to stop. This will help, I'm sure.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I will never read stylus unless john points something out, because they need rss feeds.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not being defensive or anything, but I've never had a problem reading Stylus.

I am curious about the verbosity complaint, though -- care to pick on anything in particular? Or maybe this should go off-board.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'll bring all of this to Todd's attention after I turn in my article.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I agree about the text color, and also the main page is vast and overly busy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

More so than Pitchfork?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

It could be that I have a very low tolerance for a high academic tone in my music writing, or that I just don't like "music criticism" all that much, or that I simply don't care that much what anyone else thinks and I prefer the "just tell me what it sounds like" model...or that I really don't want to read a 1000 word ILM post. I dunno. There are specific examples, but it really doesn't matter what I think because I can just as easily not read it and everyone wins.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Pitchfork has the same problem with the text color -- the light blue background necessitates more contrast, not less. Also, the leading is bad (again). Also, the text column is too wide.

Stylus is way more fixable. White background, aces. Just darken the text and space it out more, and you're golden.

(I'll leave my little example up for persuasive purposes.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I vote for Saturday Matinee.

I cast 2 votes for it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

More so than Pitchfork?

No, but at least that's divided into three columns that I can check or ignore at will. Stylus has review indexes and features all over the place.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Do you like anything I've written, Amanda?

No, but at least that's divided into three columns that I can check or ignore at will. Stylus has review indexes and features all over the place.

I don't understand this. There are three columns on Stylus as well. Reviews on the left, features in the middle, and movies on the right. Only thing that might be confusing is the blog, which gets pushed to the bottom of the left column, and the Stypod/Stycast, which get pushed to the bottom of the right column.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'd like to rasterbate.

http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/gallery.gas

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Do you like anything I've written, Amanda?

Haha, that's a terrible question.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Too much contatination of "sty" and other words is kinda gross.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

i agree. 'stypod' sounds . . . well, you know.

p.s. it is a horrible question, john!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

If I had a stypod, I'd have it removed.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand this. There are three columns on Stylus as well. Reviews on the left, features in the middle, and movies on the right.

Hmm, I guess you're right. I remember that it used to be worse, with comics and book reviews also somewhere on the right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh indeed. I had to look up the correct spelling of "concatenation" and then I didn't bother changing my original mauling of it...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Stypod: The Next Generation

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

This is the design outfit, btw.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Amanda re: stylus and it's utter lack of readability. I can't comment on how the writing is, because I find it so irritating to read that I've never bothered. And that includes anything you've written, John.

(ask a terrible question...)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez.

(Kelsey, they're talking about Foshay Tower on the HASTINGS, MN thread.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I don't read your beloved Rich Juzwiak, because his blog is so full of screencaps that take forever to load. Which seems like a much bigger problem than using type that's just a shade lighter than what you're used to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Simon Reynolds doesn't seem to have a problem reading it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Pitchfork is a little better because there's more leading but I think there's the same amount of busy-ness and I don't read that site, either.

xpost - I don't read much of his music stuff because I just don't care as much as he does about the kinds of music that he writes about. But when it comes to horror movies and recaps of silly TV shows, I'm all over it. The screen caps are integral!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dear John,

You are GREAT!

Love,
Jenny

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

because there's more leading

Explain what this means, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

john, you should know by now that this thread is the only thing i ever post on. it's a safe haven.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Jenny -- and sorry, I'm being pissy. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

A large part of why I write is for the recognition, so it makes me sad when people don't even bother.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I brought it up.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

hey man, i know you already!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

leading = the space between lines. It's pronounced like "ledding" as in "GET THE LED OUT!" Except not like that at all. But yeah, it's line spacing.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Explain what this means, please.

The spacing between lines.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you Jenny. Your explanation was better, as it included a pronunciation key.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

This is the design outfit, btw.

The text on this page is also unreadable. I sense a pattern.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think you people are all HTML nerds.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Also, you are all blind or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

A large part of why I write is for the recognition,

You mean you don't do it FOR THE MUSIC?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Well, leading is, strictly speaking, a print term. I try to use "line height" or "line spacing" when talking about web text, because the moment you say "leading" to a print design person, they want to start measuring everything in points, and that's wrong already. Besides, the css code for line height is "line-height."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like music that much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think you people are all HTML nerds.

Conversely, I think that the designers of those pages spend too much time staring at their designs and trying to make them look "modern" and "edgy" and whatever and don't realize they're falling in a massive rut. Happened to me all the time before I started seeking a broad base of feedback on my sites.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also I vaguely referenced Led Zeppelin, which I think is important. Not that John is familiar with Led Zeppelin or getting the Led out, but still.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm familiar with the phrase. :-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I may have lent him one of my albums so he could try it on for size...

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I made YOU a copy of III, if I'm not mistaken.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not an HTML nerd but I do care deeply about content, and get very annoyed when content is obfuscated by style (see: Raygun magazine, may it rot in hell forever). I think you can combine readability with design, but I don't think stylus or pitchfork do that very effectively.

In other words, Dan f'n M OTM.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ray Gun was particularly horrible, I will give you that. I just don't see PFM or Stylus as being all that objectionable.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

They aren't anywhere near that bad. Raygun is the whole complaint taken to its most evil extreme. Tiny gray text on a blue background with insufficient line spacing is a minor sin, comparatively.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Too bad I'm not into the writing, because I think Dusted has an extremely clear, well-designed site.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Wow! I agree! Now that's some appropriately sized text.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'd un-justify the text, but apart from that, sure. It's fine. Plenty of white space. They don't sell many ads, though, obviously.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

They don't sell many ads, though, obviously.

Ding ding ding.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'd un-justify the text

Yeah, it does kind of look like they're stuck in 800x600 land.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I don't mind that. I resent Pitchfork (and to a lesser degree Stylus) making me resize my window.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean the text in the reviews, or just on the sidebar, or...?

XPOST

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Why the hell would you choose to write about a subject you don't really like all that much? Surely that's got to negatively affect the content of your writing.

― Jesse First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

xpost I think he meant in the Features, but not sure. That's what I was referring to.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

(OTM was to Kenan there. I think jhn was being sarcastic.)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

I would gladly resize my window if it were worth it to wade through. Honestly, I get more from the Other Music new releases email because there are concise descriptions and samples. That's really all I need. I'll pass on reading about what some random dude listened to last week.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I look forward to that email. I get the iTunes music store one, too, but it's a lot less... um... hip.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, yeah, I was mostly being sarcastic -- although I'm also very much aware that I sort of stumbled into the world of music-writing just by reading and posting on ILM and exploring the music blogosphere. In college, I was probably just as into film as I was into music.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Honestly, I get more from the Other Music new releases email because there are concise descriptions and samples. That's really all I need. I'll pass on reading about what some random dude listened to last week.

So what you look for in music criticism is essentially a consumer's guide? That's cool -- you're definitely not alone on that. But yeah, Stylus is probably not the site for you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

"What some random dude listened to last week" = the bulk of my writing about music

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I just read the email from the long lost friend to Jesse and I somehow missed a part where she remembers me "peeing in the bath."

...

I totally don't remember peeing on this girl.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

"I know we did a lot of beaching, and you used to gross me out by peeing in our bath afterwards. Ba ha!"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should tell her that I'm putting myself through law school as a golden shower dominatrix, all thanks to our childhood together.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm comfortable enough with what I like and want to hear and with my own curiosity about new things and knowledge of/interest in old things that I do feel best served by a basic, objective "this is what's out there" consumer's guide, yes.

Life's too short, etc.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

JENNY: The Yellowmaker

HAHAHA!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Right, but I also like reading criticism for the writing and the ideas.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I know that kids are totally gross, and peeing in the bathtub is bad enough, but to think that I peed in the bathtub with her in it is pretty alarming! What kind of horrible child was I???

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I like music writing that makes me hear or think about music differently.

Jenny: !!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, that too, Jordan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I guess that's where we're different, then?! Stylus is clearly not the site for me, which is why I said earlier that I tend not to read it. I don't avoid it entirely, but I don't read the articles that annoy me anymore.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

No, no no no no "I guess that's where we're different." We're going to hash this out right here on line until Amanda loves Stylus, or I'm going to pee on the lot of you.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

That's not gonna happen, but you're welcome to take a leak on my desk if you want.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Can I keep trying to guilt-trip you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Guilt has never worked very well on me, but if you really wanna win me over, PEE ON MY DESK.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, it's hailing hard here in Roscoe Village.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

People who don't read Web sites because of the font or the style or whatever are dumb.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I once worked in an office with a woman (now a succesful novelist) who was so mad after a meeting with our boss that she said, "I want to just go back in there and pee on his desk."

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

NICK YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS DUMB

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

If Web designers didn't want people to use wacky fonts and Flash and imbedded sound files and shit, MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE INVENTED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

If you get to the point where you have to physically struggle to read Stylus, you might want to get out and get some exercise. Eat an orange.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Eat a dick.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Nick OTM.

On a less funny note: ever since lunch, my back has been absolutely killing me, to the point of distraction. My stomach sorta hurts, too, but not as much. Is it just because I ate a big sandwich? I don't understand.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I did some stretches in the bathroom and feel mildly better.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's becauuse you ate a big dick.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it is possible that the weight of the sandwich in your stomach is so great that it is producing strain on your back.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I actually don't really care that much about the whole thing, but a) design snobbery seems really pointless to me, kind of like food snobbery, and b) I felt bad because everyone was ganging up on John. CAPTAIN SAVE-A-CYBER-BRO.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. Shit. I posted as Jenny.

THIS IS JESSE WHO SAID

IT'S BECAUSE YOU ATE A BIG DICK.

― Oh Crap (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

If no one cares about how things are presented, then why is every fifth person under the age of 30 a graphic designer?! Or maybe I just answered my own question.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with the criticism of Stylus' text being too light. It reminds me of when a button or page is grayed-out because it's not being used. It makes me want to click on the page over and over trying to make it the active page.

― Jesse posting on jenny's (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it's design snobbery, or at least not for me. It's about not having to squint to read something and ending up with a headache. Websites that are supposed to provide things for people to read that then make those things hard to read by refusing to abide by some standard rules of web design come across as snobby, if not hostile (appreciate our difficult design or no content for you).

I also don't think we were ganging up on John. I think John just took a very reasonable criticism of the design of a website he sometimes writes articles for, and Amanda's personal taste in what she likes to read about music wise, very personally.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Now THAT is ganging up on John.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Or it makes me want to adjust the contrast on my screen.

In any case, it's distracting from the content.

Have you ever been distracted by a website's good design and usability? By its readability?

― Jesse postongaiognowien (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think the design is meant to be difficult or even particularly cutting-edge. I certainly don't squint when I read it.

Also, of course I took it personally. That's what I do.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

John, I just thought of something. Where does your back hurt? Has this happened to you before after eating?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, the gray text is just a tiny shade lighter than the black text in this post.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, it's mostly right in the middle of my back, and sort of in the same place in my stomach (about an inch above my belly button).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

And I don't recall it having happened before. At first, the only discomfort I felt was my jeans feeling tight, which does often happen after eating (LOL), but then the back pain developed as well.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

The question is WHY choose the light font? Everything that happens on a website happens on purpose, and everything that happens should be a result of a well thought out design.

I think perhaps the washed out text is the result of a designer's thinking that it was cool in his eyes b/c it was a little different than standard black text.

The site seems to run on individual impressions, so maybe this is fitting.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

THE "The question is WHY" was Jesse!!!!!!!!

― THAT WAS JESSE (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

The site seems to run on individual impressions, so maybe this is fitting.

Oh boy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

YEAH GUYS IT'S CALLED CRITICISM. CRITICISM = INDIVIDUAL IMPRESSIONS.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Jesse I am going to kill you.

John, I used to get a pain like that after I ate certain things (that horrible butter dipping sauce that comes with chain pizza, for one) and my mom said it might be a gall bladder thing. But it also seemed to go hand in hand with really bad heartburn SO I take prilosec every day and avoid things that made me have that pain and it hasn't come back. So it might be associted with the heartburn you have had, too.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Some criticism is. But most balances individual impressions with some degree of theory, objectivity and attention to the audience.

Strictly (or overly strongly) individual impressions is not so much criticism.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

What I meant was that what I've read on Stylus has been about the author more than about the music.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

What have you read?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's a place for both, to be honest.

Also: "objectivity" is a chimera.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

(Granted, my definition of criticism may be as broad as my definition of art.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Carl Wilson:

I was being interviewed for a teevee show about music writing and blogging today, and among my staircase moments afterwards, I thought that my answer to the question, "If writing about music is such a non-lucrative career, why do it?" should have been that precisely because music is so abstract and inimical to verbal capture, it opens up an infinite field to write across, an unending series of creative near- or far-misses -- and because music is so insinuated in everyone's personal lives and consciousnesses, it burrows tunnels into every subject matter, making it a subject that potentially permits you to write about anything and everything in the world.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Attempts at objectivity are essential though, even if it's elusive. The solution is not to give up on it entirely in favor of talking about oneself.

I've read random bits and pieces. Most not recently until I went back to look it over today.

This is a bit pulled from a randomly-clicked bit on Missy Elliot from he Recommends section.

The first time I heard it (as a rough mix), I thought, "Eh, yeah, sure it’s good," but coming from Missy, I was a bit underwhelmed. Now, a few months later, it strikes me as being as delectably bizarre as just about anything Missy and Tim have concocted. Melody is virtually absent and those diwali beats are spare as shit, but I’ll be damned if it doesn’t suck you in like some inescapable cosmic vacuum. I’ve come to love its "Hooty-hoo" (the soon-to-be official call-to-arms to shake one’s ass) as much as the weird backwards part in "Work It." The odd little touches like Beauty-Pageant Barbie Doll Missy thanking her adoring fans ("you’re all so wonderful!") and the alarm clocking ringing after our brief breather rather annoyed me initially, but now I find them idiosyncratically endearing.

It does talk about the music, but the author is way too present in it. It's like a blog entry rather than a review.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'd MUCH rather the author be TOO present in criticism than not present enough. To me, an authorial presence signifies good faith and honesty, whereas extracting yourself from the writing functions as an evasion, a denial that you play a crucial role in the aesthetic experience. I like when writers let me know where they're coming from.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

But the author needs to trust that his voice makes him present in the writing without making himself a subject.

But if you said that you are writing for the recognition, then I guess Stylus is the place to do that as their style makes is easy to write with yourself at the forefront.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Not that that is a jab at you!

None of this is to be taken personally. I write in the spirit of debate, etc. Like in a workshop.

But I do recall you said that taking things personally is what you do.

I would suggest that by that being "what you do" you are choosing the path that leads to the most heartache.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

this has been jesse.

logging out.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

There is no Stylus "style."

I'm writing because I think I am good at writing about music and I want people to recognize that I am good at writing about music.

I don't like the distinction between "blog writing" and "website writing." It's all writing to me. Ideally, the website writing needs to be a bit more conscious of its audience -- but to me that just means not assuming that references will be understood. It doesn't mean dropping the first-person.

I think of Roger Ebert as a critic I enjoy in large part because he writes honestly about his reactions, which necessarily entails writing about himself.

A random paragraph from his Failure to Launch review (which isn't even the part of the review where he tells an amusing story about being bit by a donkey on Stanley Kubrick's farm):

Now to get technical. The editing of the film is strangely fragmented. I first noticed this during a backyard conversation between the parents. There's unusually jerky cutting on lines of dialogue, back and forth, as if the film is unwilling to hold the characters in the same shot while they talk to each other. This turbulence continues throughout the film. Back and forth we go, as if the camera's watching a tennis match. I would question the editor, Steven Rosenblum, but he's the same man who edited "Braveheart," "Glory" and "The Last Samurai," so I know this isn't his style. Did the director, Tom Dey, favor quick cutting for some reason? Perhaps because he couldn't stand to look at any one shot for very long? That's the way I felt.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

design snobbery seems really pointless to me, kind of like food snobbery

Oh, Nick.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, it strikes me that Ebert is SO conscious of his audience that a lot of his reviews read like conversations: "Here's what I think -- now I know that you might think I'm crazy about this, but consider this other thing..." Using the first person need not be solipsistic -- to the contrary, in some ways it's the best jumping-off point for engaging in fruitful discourse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

David Edelstein on Closer:

I have to confess: I love it when big movie stars talk dirty. Their images are so sanitized, and besides, they can't say anything naughty on television or the FCC will stomp all over them. And it's not like there's much sex talk in mainstream American movies. Audiences are comfortable with four-letter words hurled in anger in the course of hideously violent acts, but used to express love or desire, they're a little, uh, icky, and they also threaten our moral values. That's why it's fun to hear Clive Owen interrogate Julia Roberts about how she fellated Jude Law, or see Owen being straddled by Star Wars' icy princess Portman in a G-string spewing four-letter anatomical references. What a happy voyeur am I.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Michaelangelo Matos on the Supremes' "Love Child"

I can't say for sure, but I certainly don't remember any piece of "objective" criticism making me tear up like that essay did.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with John mostly.

I don't read many music reviews though.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, none of this makes me like Stylus any more than I do. That Love Child essay is good because it has a salient emotional point. There is not enough time in the day or space in my brain for me to care any more about this topic. Maybe my day is short or my brain is small, but so be it. I guess I am simply not interested in fruitful discourse.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I ate a critical mass of cheese tonight and now I'm getting wasted on greyhounds. I don't know if that makes a good night or a really shitty one.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

I can tell that I'm drunk, you see, 'cause all the music I'm listening to sounds really fast. Specifically Green Onions and Mama Digd0wn's tunes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

Bizzarest crafting project ever:

The Fetus Popple

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/littleflamehead/Craftster/FetusAction3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/littleflamehead/Craftster/FetusLabeled.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not even in a position to dealwith thtat right now;

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

How about this--

Audition, a J-horror movie, in which there is a scene where the cute girl vomits into a bowl and feeds it to a gimp (minus 3 fingers and his tounge) who lives in a bag, who laps it up greedily.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've seen that movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

No, that was Suicide Club.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm going to bed. Still durnk and I still don't know if it was a good or horrible night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

Durnk.

I'm at 6"50 am. It sucks--so much so that I can't type.

I'm UP at 6:50 am.

The bird had no food so he was sitting there going "Hey bird, rrrrring, meow, hey bird, meow, gurrgle, ring-ring, kenny, rrrrring, rrrrring." And the hot water started leaking like crazy. I'll call maintenance but will the jackass fix it or just caulk around the tub again?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeh, so Audition--

Why are so many Japanese horror movies so unsatisfying? They do well with creepiness, but they set up a mystery that is never resolved. Is this attributable to Eastern inscrutability, or is it lazy film-making?

I'm thinking here of Ringu, Dark Water, Suicide Club, and Audition. I like all of these movies for their creepy atmospheres, mysterious situations and general scariness, but in the end they were just showing a lot unanchored weirdness.

I thought the American version of The Ring was far better than the Japanese original because it balanced the unexplainable and the supernatural with a plot that accounted for the weird shit that was happening.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with you about the Ring but I really liked Audition.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

Suicide Club was... something else entirely.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Suicide Club is the best movie that has been mentioned yet.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Audition too. It's just that it was too heavy on the ambiguity in the last 1/3.

The end reminded me a little of Jacob's Ladder, with the "is he dreaming or is this real" aspect, but JL was clear in its intention to be ambiguous, if that makes sense, while Audition just seemed random.

Suicide Club was just madness.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wild Zero > Suicide Club

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot decide if I love the new Scott Walker album or violently hate it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

I have never heard Scott Walker ("Why would I" etc.).

This morning I had a turkey sausage + cheese bagel sandwich, a couple painkillers, some water, and some coffee. Hangover, now it's up to you.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I DON'T UNDERSTAND this opposite sex thing, it's plaguing me lately. I draw the line at pleated-front pants and football -- otherwise I'm trying to stay open and be nice -- but must they be either obvious or aggravating??? Fucking crapshoot.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Obvious?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you know -- when people think you don't know what they're doing. Like, dude, just make a move, it would at least be HONEST and probably more diverting than this faffing around that fools no one. Am I old and jaded? Haha.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think expecting decisive behavior makes you old OR jaded.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

There ought to be a litmus test, a little strip that turns either pink or green or something, so I know not to go out with people LESS DECISIVE than me. I? Bah. Then again maybe I'm being unfair, he's on the young side and I wasn't exactly a model of correct behavior either.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

mixed messages suck and are, at the moment, the bane of my existence.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

There you are, you've been quiet lately. At least nothing's going on that I have to take seriously, you sound more affected by yr op sx difficulties. Woebegone face.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/GarrisonKeillor.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

i think i've been taking things more seriously than i should have been taking them. but i don't like getting dicked around or played for a sucker. though it appears that i am, in fact, a sucker of huge proprotions.

i'd explain it but it's so convoluted and ultimately boring that i won't.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

proportions even.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

"sucker of huge proportions"

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Has anybody here ever privately sold a car? Jeff and I are selling ours and joining iGo, but we don't really know what we're doing.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

But it was to a friend of my stepmom's, since no one bit in the Classifieds. They cut me a check, I signed the title over to them (had to document the "selling price"), and that was that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Watch Craigslist for a while, and get a sense of what prices they go for and what is too much (a lot of listings will hang around for a long time -- these are either overpriced or scams.)

That being said, price it for a little more than what you actually want for it.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

when i sold my old car i just went to carmax to avoid the bother, and they of course ripped me off. but i knew they would.

it seems like having some awareness of kbb values and lots of patience, you should be able to do ok.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Does anybody want to buy a 200 VW Golf GLS four door? It needs a new timing belt and the front bumper has a little crack in it but otherwise, it's a fine little blue egg-shaped car.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

This one?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/189000-189999/189943_765.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

what sucks is that a week ago i knew someone who was shopping for a used car! she emailed me yesterday about how she just got one.

i'd been contemplating selling her mine but my parents are driving mine now and would be loath to give up driving my awesome little tiny old perfect-city-car.

oh cute car! i love VWs.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

How much you want for it?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'd love to have a VW again, but the ol' Toy is too good, cheap, and I don't really drive much anymore anyway.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Almost, Kenan. Ours has four doors. Power locks, power steering, six disc CD changer in the trunk, AC... um... I think that's it. Five speed. Black interior. We had the front right fender replaced (and then some poor parallel parker cracked the bumper...) because I ran into a pylon in a parking garage in 2001 and that's it. I replaced all four tires before we moved here to Chicago.

The blue book value is is $8315 for good condition, and $7530 for fair condition. Given the timing belt thing, we would ask for $8k and take $7300. I think. This is what my coworker and I decided, but Jeff hasn't weighed in on that yet.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

There are, not one, but TWO rail-thin dudes who sit less than ten feet away from me and eat McDonald's every single day. Sometimes I suspect that they have it for more than one meal per day. WTF.

I feel like I've probably mentioned this before.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've sold several cars privately. You know who's your go-to guy for this.

Remember? I sold one right in front of you. At a yard sale! And I got 100% of the asking price. One the first interested party.

Remember when those East African men tried to buy my beat up BMW that day? They offered me $200 or a Plasma TV.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Whooo, that is WAY outta my price range. Oh well. Looks like a nice car!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

there's a mcdonald's ad with various people saying "my first job was at mcdonalds" and something about how they learned life lessons or something. and i always think, huh.

my first job was at mcdonalds and i learned:

-french fries are really rather disgusting if you consider how they're made (there anyway--ugh ugh ugh ugh).
-it's really embarrassing to have your hs bf and all his friends stop by to see you when you're decked out in a hideously ugly brown stripey polyester uniform and matching hat
-if you eat a quarter pounder every day during your break you will grow out of the aforementioned polyester uniform, which should have just had an elastic waistband, because it couldn't have been any uglier anyway.

i guess i didn't have the metabolism of the rail-thin guys at your work.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe how good the resale is on your car! Good purchase!

Were it 1/2 that price I would probably buy it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe that one meal of McDonald's is all they eat all day.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, Julia. My high school girlfriend was a manager at McDonald's, and it made me soooo glad that I've never worked there.

xpost, excellent point, Dan!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, what I love about GarrisonKeillor.jpg from above is that if I'd been online at the time, I probably would've posted it, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Macy Grey is in that McDonalds ad and it makes me ANGRY because wtf? Does she really love her shitty first job that much? I DOUBT IT.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Not that I'm saying it's a good thing, but I have known people like that. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I really feel good. I would like to get up at 6:30 more often, but won't be doing it.

I have new contacts, but it turns out that I have astigmatism in my right eye, so it will remain slightly fuzzy until it gets so bad that I spend the extra money on astigmatic lenses. Yay for my fucking eyes -5.5 vision in each, Now With Astigmatism!

And I have small scars on the edges of my cornea from injuries, scratches and overwear. No big whoop, says the Doc.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Remember when those East African men tried to buy my beat up BMW that day?

I read this as "Remember when those East African men tried to beat me up that day?" Which didn't seem outside the realm of possibility.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

the life lesson i learned from working at mcd's was that YOU NEVER EVER WANT TO WORK THERE EVER.

maybe shitty first jobs inspire some to great things because they really don't want to have shitty jobs and go the opposite extreme.

alas, i am only great in my snoozing capacities.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, so suppose someone you know has never had glasses or contacts in his life but has been realizing over the past year that his vision is deteriorating, to the point where it's probably not a good idea for him to drive at night despite the fact that he passed the vision test when he renewed his license, because he can't actually read the signs until he's up close and when he tries on other people's glasses he frequently has that "hallelujah!" moment when the world opens itself up to him. So what's the first step? Go to an eye doctor? Optometrist? Opthalmologist?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't all of those eye doctors?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Optician?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know which one to go to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Eye doctor.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh John. I think it's time to let Darwinism take it's course. I think the first step is to drive at night while wearing sunglasses.

YES, THE FIRST STEP IS TO GO TO A FUCKING EYE DOCTOR!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Just choose one. Call one and say, "Hi, I'm having trouble seeing and I'm totally helpless and clueless. Will you please point me in the right direction?"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh the mileage of our car is just over 50k. I've never been big on "driving."

John, you want to go to an optometrist. If you have a vision plan, start there. If not, I go to Level Optical on Michigan Ave and they are good. You can also usually get your eyes checked at Lens Crafters. There's one of those on Michigan Ave, too.

http://www.pro-optical.com/questions.html

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

That is why contact lenses freak me out. Also, yr blind, Jesse.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

So there are doctors who specialize in eyes? Can they provide some sort of a lens or something that will correct the problem with my vision?

― jaymc (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

YES

IT WILL REFRACT THE LIGHT SO THAT YOU CAN "SEE"

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I got a photograph of my eyes today.

I think it was an unnecessary expense, but I felt like going whole-hog on my eyes since I mistreat them regularly.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

John, what will happen is that you will go to the "eye doctor" and they'll tell you they are giving you a "puff test" for glaucoma but DON'T LET THEM DO IT. This is how they spread bird flu. If they try to do this to you, stab the opthemolitricianist in the neck and RUN LIKE HELL.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, I don't know if I have a vision plan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha!

Oh wow! I just got the photos of my eyes in the mail!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I got the concentric-circle photograph taken the last time I went to the eye doctor. I have kerataconus in one eye, and that's how they diagnose it. It's like a little relief map of your eyeball.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahahha Jenny. Cleaning coffee off keyboard right after I hit "submit".

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA

First make you steal the 3-d glasses from the depth perception test.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh boo! The jpg's won't open.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

John, call your HR dept and ask them - they can tell you. If you don't have a vision plan, Lens Crafters is fairly cheap for the eye exam. When you call to make the appointment, you can ask them how much everything will cost and then you can decide whether to go ahead with it or let Darwinism run its course.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Also, most people who don't already wear glasses don't buy the vision plan at work (like, Jeff pays for me to be on his vision plan but he is not covered by it). You're pretty weird though, so it's worth calling to check.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

You may well have a vision plan.

If not, hust go to a general practicioner. Or even a pediatrician. They are all qualified to prescribe corrective eyewear. If they argue with you, report them to the AMA.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

John, the vision plan doesn't make that much of difference. Eye exams are only like $35 anyway, and my vision plan only got me 20% off glasses (which is nice, but not a huge deal).

Dan, I just read about keratoconus, that sucks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

$35?! Are you going to a back-alley optomalitician?

I've never paid less than $90-ish in years and years.

I went to LensCrafters. My exam was 100 + the photo which was $39. That is fairly standard for a big retailer like that. Some of the smaller places vary a LOT.

I bank at Washinton Mutual who offer a discount plan. It took $10 off my exam.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I remember being on a vision plan at my old job because I had been experiencing eye strain while reading Jonathan Franzen's The Corrections in 2001 and I figured it couldn't hurt -- but I have no memory of signing up for a vision plan at this job, and I just rifled through all sorts of benefits-related information that's in a vertical file on my desk, and I can't even find any mention that a vision plan exists.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, I know this is all very "haha" to all of you, but you guys are a big help to me with stuff like this. I don't get the "puff test" joke.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. You were going just for glasses, right? That's cheaper. The contacts fitting adds a few bucks.

Even so, $35 is crazy cheap.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

$35 - $50. Maybe you're paying fancy Chicago prices.

I was going to smaller private practices though, not Lenscrafters.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

20% is a lot if you have a bad prescription, though, because those special lenses and coatings and shit add up. i was totally shocked at the price when i bought my latest glasses out-of-pocket, i'd always had some coverage before. xp

with a new eye prob, it shouldn't be too bad price-wise.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, what I love about GarrisonKeillor.jpg from above is that if I'd been online at the time, I probably would've posted it, too.

As soon as I posted that, I thought, "That was a John post."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, just glasses.

John, the "puff test" is a cruel joke dreamed up by eyecare professionals. It's the only thing that gets them through their otherwise boring and unglamorous days. Think Clockwork Orange.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

But am I really supposed to refuse it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Although the dilation is really fun. After they dilate your eyes, run out into bright sunlight with your eyes wide open, then drive.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Who was it that was talking about "Balls to the Wall" upthread? I don't want to go look right now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS4fvl9Xh2g

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, definitely refuse the puff test.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

NO JOHN don't refuse the puff test. We are fucking with you. Don't refuse anything. Unless they claim that they need to hold your penis to check for astigmatism. That's probably not necessary.

xpost - That was me talking about Balls to the Wall.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

I tried refusing it, promising them that I don't have glaucoma, but they weren't fucking buying it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

My mother has glaucoma so not only do I have to accept it, I am supposed to get it every six months or something. But I don't.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

No Jordan, not just in Chicago. In NC I went to a nice old lady doctor named Gertrude something. She was the cheapest I could find and she charged $90-ish. Again, that was with the contacts fitting included.

BTW-- I love my new contacts. Though I hate my new astigmatism.

The contacts have the easy-find blue tint to them, but these are so dark blue that they alter my eye color. I'm not sure if I approve of that.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I love the part where they're headbanging up against a wall.

I didn't mind the puff test.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

My doctor in NC had a no-puff glaucoma test. It just shot a laser in the eye-hole and thereby detected glaucoma AND did an iridology reading to determine your compatibility with your partner.

The puff is bad, but the actual touching shit on your eye old fashioned version was MUCH WORSE.

The laser is best.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

That video is spectacular. Germans know how to be manly.

The last time I went to the doc I had the dilation and the eye touch thing. I think that measures something different, because I got the puff test, too.

The eye doc is a vast array of mysteries. John, you will have a great time and be a better person for it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Eye touching?!?!?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

The put that blue light thing right up against your eyeball.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

And they're like "DON'T BLINK OKAY?!??!?!??!" and it's a contest of will to see if you can keep your eye open while SOMETHING TOUCHES YOUR EYEBALL.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

If I had that, I blocked it out. Actually, considering that's one of my phobias, I think it would have been impossible for the doc to pull that one off.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

The depth perception test was cool. You put the 3-d sci-fi glasses on and then they give you a little binder. First you see a giant fly and affirm that its wings are indeed popping out at you, and then you look at a series of circles, each arranged in a "+" shape.

One of each + looks like of shimmery, the one that's supposed to be popping out at you. Each one is more subtle and even though I apparently nailed all of them, by the end it was getting almost mystical. Like, "They all look the same to me, but I feel like that circle is up to no good".

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hi I'm listening to the CIA head confirmation hearings on NPR. It's dull. It's really dull. It's duller than any of the following things, generally considered to be quite dull:

• A butter knife
• An accounting seminar
• Watching paint dry
• Watching grass grow
• Watching paint that is already dry
• The last Tortoise album

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I like the last Tortoise album. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Not the Bonnie Prince Billy album. (That one's annoying, which is at least more interesting.) The one before that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. I haven't heard the BPB one.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone of you read Wisconson Death Trip?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0826321933/sr=8-1/qid=1144090184/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7053177-3482457?%5Fencoding=UTF8

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

No. Saw the movie, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Shamefully, I have not, nor seen the movie, nor heard the record (actually that one is not shameful).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

My apartment smells of boiling cabbage and rutabaga!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I have a copy of Wisconsin Death Trip at home. I didn't know there was a movie, or maybe I did but didn't realize it had actually come out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/orang.0.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

John, stop jerking off immediately.

The puff sometimes costs extra, at least it did at America's Best (which is not America's best).

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Damn EZ and his witty comebacks, I should have thought of that!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0210389/

User Comments: Another Errol Morris Ripoff (more)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

OH GOD WHY ME

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS BOIL A HOT DOG, SMOKE ALARMS WHY DO YOU HATE ME

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently I had turned on the wrong burner. :(

I think I just sustained hearing damage.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Next time, add water.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Lunch complaint: I got my good sandwich, then ducked into McDonald's real fast for an apple pie. Remember those little fried pies and how decadently delicious they were when you were a kid? Well, they're gone. For all I know, they've been gone for years. Now they have "baked apple pie." These are bullshit. Also, they made me take two, because apparently they can't give this crap away -- it's 98 cents for one, and 99 cents for two. Please, McDonalds... fried pie cannot be baked. Surely you understand this.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

For a couple months there, every time I took a shower, my smoke alarm would go off. I'd have to come out of the bathtub, bare-ass naked and dripping wet, while waving a towel in front of the alarm to get it to stop. It was only a few days ago that I decided to just take out the battery. I have another alarm around the corner, not 10 feet away, so I'm not worried too much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Fried pie was where it's at. Sometimes I get a hankerin' for Hostess fruit pies, too (cherry). I believe they are also fried. And iced. But I never buy them either because holy cow, I gained 30 pounds just eating too much normal food. Imagine if I ate fried pie, too?!??!?!???

xpost - bag it! Just like in the dorms.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Bag what? The smoke detector?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have two, and neither of them have removable batteries. I'm completely at their mercy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/Panda%20cub.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

We have a doorbell that rings when you turn a light off or on. I HATE it.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah! If you want to smoke LOTS and LOTS of POT in the DORMS you have to put a BAG, like a GROCERY BAG, over the smoke detector.

Jesse, imagine I'm PUNCHING you to PUNCTUATE all the capitalized WORDS because that's what I was THINKING about while WRITING it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

HATE it enough that I am going to remove its wires. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I really LIKE that cute little BEAR.

In my old boyfriend's apartment (over a bait shop...), the stove would turn on when you flipped a light switch in the kitchen.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

In my apartment there's a switch that if you flip it, God kills a homeless person.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm imagining a big pile of dead dudes on the corner of Ashland and Division now. Thanks Kenan.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Like they're just cruising around the Wendy's parking lot and randomly dropping.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Over a bait shop! If you had cats, I bet they were either in heaven or hell.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.redmoonrecords.com/files/prodotti/dischi/cdlpmetal/acdc-flick.jpg

Eric - I didn't live there. It was a filthy drunk hippie bait shop bachelor pad.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/Baby-Sloth.0.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

More sloth in a box.

I have a door chime that is connected to nothing, but it still rings occasionally. Always a different ring too. It is radio-controlled, so it must be picking up random signals.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I've seen enough sloths. They are starting to really creep me out. Can we try out some other mammals? Any other order will do. Pandas. Big-ass cats. Lemurs. Zebras. Foxes. Armadilloes. If it has hair and nipples, I'm down with it. But no more sloths.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE
http://sunsite.tus.ac.jp/multimed/pics/animals/weasel.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hola, me llamo MINK
http://www.cecilw.com/photo/albums/animals/8885_mink.sized.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Very nice.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Prairie dog:
http://www.naturegraphics.net/be320%20prairie%20dog.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/orang.0.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/mother_and_baby_sloth.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Tubby"

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/fat-mouse-ccs.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jenny, did you watch that Bette Davis movie? I watched most of it, but it was kinda silly. The sets looked like it should have been a musical.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's good? Yukon Gold potatoes, that's what's good.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Life's good, but not fair at all.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Algernon"

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/life/white_mouse.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, Jesse, are you referencing that Raymond Carver story with the cream soda?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Man, the first result for a GIS for "cute" is a back-dimple fetish site... I like back dimples, don't get me wrong, but you'd think it would be a baby or puppy or something.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Back dimples?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, Jesse, are you referencing that Raymond Carver story with the cream soda?

Okay maybe not, the Carver line is: "I know what would taste good, and that's some cream soda."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Back dimples?

Also known as lumbar dimples, yes?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, the third Google result for "lumbar dimples" is my brother's Myspace page!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/slash_pel/lovehunter.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/hoffmans-sloth.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Sacral dimples? Right above yer butt.

xpost: HOLY SHIT IS THAT SNAKE PENETRATING... oh, okay.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

No reference at all. Straight up: What tastes good? Yukon Gold variety of potatoes.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/15WOMBAT_narrowweb__300x393%2C0.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really get the animal photos.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Mr. Wombat!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Let me say it again, for it bears repeating, and given it's strength, I bet can bear more repeating than a stuttering auctioneer could throw its way: JUST A LITTLE GUY is the BEST BLOG EVER.

xpost-
WHAT THE FUCK IS THERE TO "GET"?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

There's NOTHING to "get"! That's perhaps why I don't "get" it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

(i misspelled "its")

Seriously, what does that mean, "I don't really get the animal photos."?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Someone has never had a pet.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Animals are cute, John.

Not so much sloths, or at least not as Jesse runs out of new photos of them to post (that last one is CREEE-PAY!), but in general, cute.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

It means I don't understand the point of posting random photos of animals on the Chicago thread. But that's cool, some people don't understand the point of the Chicago thread at all -- so whatever makes you happy, I guess!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I did not! I don't think we get TCM! I watched the channel channel and then went to the TV listings on line and nothing about that channel or that movie. BOOOO. We have Comcast regular old cable, so I don't know what the GD problem was. I was pretty bummed, though. I was ALL SET to watch that movie. Like seriously, all freaking set.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.lightreading.com/aboutus/frontpage/monkey_finger.gif

(xpost)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't miss much, really. It was pretty corny. But in an entertaining way.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

John, pray tell what do you see the point of posting in the Chicago thread? It's all pretty damn random as far as I can tell.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

pretty corny. But in an entertaining way.

YES. That's what I was all about. FO SHAY.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

If you're bored with animal photos, there's more hair metal (and a great song) - Whitesnake's 'Slow & Easy':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD_1P-TMKCQ

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ignore me, please! Post more animal photos.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I HAD THAT CASSETTE TAPE!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

In this photo she has visible eyebrows, but most of the movie they're either clear or shaved off or powdered over or something. Errol Flynn remained super gay the whole way through, though.
http://www.errolflynn.net/Filmography/ee1.jpg

Also neat makeup gallery here.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN:

STFU.

Please?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I watched a clip on TCM online and learned that Ms. Davis actually shaved her whole head so she could be more authentic! That's awesome.

John, Jesse and I are coming over for an intervention.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I'm being mean to John, but I think it's important for the greater good.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

This one, Jenny? (Though this is the picturedisc)
http://www.musicpicturedisc.com/product_main_image.asp?image=/images/695/1.jpg&width=0&height=350

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

OMG speaking of QE makeup, was this really necessary? Did she really look like a decrepit clown?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1685/400/gibbon.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Bette was brilliant and Errol Flynn wandered around aimlessly looking for a swash to buckle.

Tee hee!

I don't recall that being on the cover. This was back in the day when album covers were shrunk down to have the size of the cassette so I don't really remember what the cover art looked like.

xpost - AH! Masterpiece Theater! I've seen all ten million hours of that. It's so good. And yes, QE was a MESS. She was a royal mess, and the older she got the more she clomped on the white makeup. The sad thing was that the ladies of her court copied her style, because that's the way it was. So you had all these young normal looking women walking around dressed like parade floats and made up like decrepit clowns.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

This is for Jordan (too big a pic to post):
http://photo.ludost.net/whitesnake/tommy_checking_out_his_drums.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I never made it to the end of the Elizabeth book.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get posting links to things.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Obv.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Obv?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

You post links to things so that you don't have to look at huge 800x600 photos of sloths.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, that was a sloth in that last pic! I thought those were monkeys.

I don't get photos.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get what I'm saying.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, misread the post as "like" instead of "get" for some reason. Still, I think my comment stands.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

John, you could turn images off so that they're all links (that's what I do).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get "Obv."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get understanding things.

NOW WHO'S THE ASSHOLE?? HUH?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

(me)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, Tommy Aldridge rulz. He's still got the afro!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Obv. = I am to lazy to type out "Obviously"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

too, damn it. TOO.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

I know, but I didn't get why you would say obviously, but now I do, moot point, die in hell, etc etc.

Earlier I was going to say to Kenan, "You know where you could go where there are no sloths? HELL." But then it occured to me that I was totally wrong.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

NOW WHO'S THE ASSHOLE?? HUH?
----------

(me)

Obv.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

i washed my desk fan.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out that the people in the accounting department call me "Annie."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Navarro confesses if he were attracted to men and had to select a celebrity partner, he'd pick the "obvious" choice of Johnny Depp.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Today I:

-Arose at 6.20
-Went to Mich Ave to get contacts
-Ate a great bagel at Jafadsfawe Bagels (where they have Great Roast Turkey)
-boiled cabbage, rutabaga, potatoes
-washed my fan
-petted the cat
-vacuumed the floor
-was a dick online

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

-found out that Amanda just found out the accounting people call her "Annie"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out that the people in the accounting department call me "Annie."

Oh lord. Similar infantilization of my name drives me NUTZ.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Why do they call you "Annie"? If they wanted to infantalize you, wouldn't Mandy be the ticket?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Well, wouldn't it, Danny?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Grrrr

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Quick, sing "Danny Boy" IT WILL BE SO SWEET

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

The person who told me said it was because I reminded them of a particular optimistic, small, red-headed, singing orphan. I'm not amused.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was b/c of her red hair.

xpost

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Obv.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

NOT MY REAL HAIR PEOPLE. Also not curly. Also, I'm not 8 years old!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost He prefers "The Danninator".

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's a new one!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Danimal

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

(not a new one)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Dan + anything rhyming with "Dan" = not new.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Daniel San

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Uzbekistan!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Dan Peed in a Pan

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Turkmenisdan!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8963/snl/pics/rschneider2.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Some examples:

Dan the man
Dan the alieAN (2nd graders are creative, I tell you)
Pop Can Dan (I never got this one, really)

xpost Daniel San was huge, but people are stupid and said "Danielson" like that one family. I like the -stan ones!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

John OTM

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to John - Totally different.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

"You know where you could go where there are no sloths? HELL." But then it occured to me that I was totally wrong.

That's funny.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Old Dan Tucker (really really not new)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Burg3ss sounds just enough like "bird chest" to bring out the cruel irony that children could display towards a young girl who developed breasts at a younger-than-average age.

Old Dan River

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, "bird chest" -- that's actually quite clever!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have heard Old Dan River before, but that was from my wine-drunk, singing mother!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Which, Bird Chest or Old Dan River?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mobileopera.org/images/showboat_gphc.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

There is a Dan River in Virginia.

But I think this refers to Old Man River.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Bird chest. I mean, "tits"??

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, re-reading Jenny's story, I don't get it, either. I thought "bird chest" usually = flat-chested?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

"Birdchest" is about as clever as "Cunt-in-hand."

Oh wait. I see your point!

xpost - "bird chest" was used to describe someone with a puny chest, so like a skinny dude with little muscle tone or a girl with small boobs. I was neither of those things.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sheepdrove.com/sheepdrove/files/images/454_tits-on-nuts-200px.jpg

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN GETS IT, PEOPLE! HE GETS IT!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha x2

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, what do I get?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm suddenly overcome with this sensation that I'm just a laughingstock for you people. What do you see in me, anyway?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

You don't really think that, do you?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha.

"What do you see in me, anyway?"

Are we ready to tell him, or is it too soon?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh, jaymc

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

The laughingstocks in my life are much funnier than you are, anyway. :)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

THE SUN'LL COME OUT TOMORROW, BETCHER BOTTOM DOLLAR THAT TOMORROW

THERE'LL BE SUN

ETC

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

"What am I, a clown? I'm here to amuse you?"

http://www.fhumor.com.br/img/joe_pesci_engracado.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

You don't really think that, do you?

Well, no. But I am curious about why you put up with me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I think I'm pretty great, but who knows.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

I AM NOT discussing my sincere affection for jaymc on the internet.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Because you're good, giving, and game, John.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

2x Jenny. Although I bet that would really rile up the NB hataz.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, that's cool, you don't need to go into it. :-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I am so bored I could melt.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I was just thinking earlier about how much opportunity for roffles/discussion John's naivete (faux and otherwise) provides.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Man, our gig is tonight and the club never even listed it on their website. I know it was a relatively last minute booking, but c'mon.

I'm sneaking out in an hour and a half for rehearsal, dinner, then gig. Very excited.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Yeah, you guys would never have talked about eyes and doctors and eye doctors without me.

http://www.easymusic.com/images/songs/00606949772826_200x200.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

The faux naivete mostly just provides me with agida, but the internet without irritation is like... a wool sweater without irritation.

Good luck with your gig, Jordanikstan! Is this the rock band or the brass band?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

The identify-this-band-from-the-photo game is probably my favorite moment from all of these threads.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Slim Jaymc

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh EZ, that was fun, wasn't it?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

"What the hell do you find hot about a cop-killer?"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, "agita" = new vocab word!

I'd wager that half the time the "faux" part of my naivete comes from the way I announce my ignorance, which I guess by this point I play up, but I do think there are a lot of things that I am generally clueless about.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

(Is that really Em on that CD cover? He looks like he just got back from a stint in Iraq.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. Example = nearly every movie (*ahem* film) you guys talk about. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry, Dan -- many of the movies discussed here are quite bad.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Worry? Who said anything about worrying? :D

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaaagh! I want to listen to All Things Considered, but it's being pre-empted by these stupid fucking CIA hearings. Who is so hard up for content that they play all 32 hours a day of this shit? Who would listen to it instead of wait for the highlights reel (possibly on The Daily Show)?

See, this is why I will miss the jazz.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

But it won't always be CIA hearings. They are important in that this new nominee of Bush's is a total douche and it will be interesting to see if Bush could nominate someone for a wet t-shirt contest, much less for a high ranking government office.

Still, I don't want to listen to them. I just want them available for other, smarter people to listen to.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

You're right. If it wasn't thins all day, it would be other things I would not be listening to. "How Chicago's Polish Community is Coping With the Beet Shortage. 10am - 12pm."

But I do like All Things Considered.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with your gig, Jordanikstan! Is this the rock band or the brass band?

Thanks Jenny. This is actually a one-off NU-JAZZ gig with some of my college bros. It's the guitarist from C0ugar who lives in NYC, and it's mostly tunes from his band The Semifinalists. Pretty music with lots of crazy time changes.

I just got a call from the bass player, who had car trouble and consequently is just leaving Chicago NOW, meaning he will definitely not make rehearsal. Argh.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

bye bye fucks

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

So long, faggo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://akosut.com/log/img/FLUFFY%20BABY%20BUNNY.jpg

― not a sloth (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

why isn't today friday? shouldn't it be friday already?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/48/145218667_8e2f7bc2e2_m.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE THAT WEE BUNNY RABBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is it in a...sink?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's in a baking dish.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, I see.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

yum

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

HI!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

anyone want to go to hawaii with me? i want to go.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

JOCELYN

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Jocelyn and I would like to go to Hawaii.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

HELLO! I have found the lol internet

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I speak on behalf of Jocelyn.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

hawaii, please

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

i'm serious, when do you want to go?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I want to go to Alaska.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I could have possibly gone to Hawaii for work this month...but I didn't.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

this has been my life in the past two months-changes jobs to a place where I have no internet access, spent a lot of time in martial arts training, read a lot, lost 20 pounds, went on a few trips, got totally enamoured and then totally rejected by someone (because he's leaving town) decided yesterday that I don't want to go to nursing school after cleaning up poop explosion for 2 hours, and want to go to grad school instead, rekindled several friendships, spent time with horses, and have been generally healthy, happy, and baby animal free.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Alaska for some theater work two summers back, so pretty. Kind of like the north woods of MN, WI, MI, but intensified and endless.

Welcome back, Jocelyn.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.moorsmagazine.com/images2/northerncast.jpg vs. http://www.jimmymalecki.com/jimmyphotos/film_tv/Real_World_Hawaii.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

john corbett looks like a demon

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds kinda great, Jocelyn.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I can't even get away from here to go to Wisconsin for a weekend, much less to Hawaii.

Although, the answer to "when would you like to go" is:

RIGHT NOW LIKE IN 5 MINUTES GET ME OUT OF HERE PLEASE

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

i have a picture sitting on my desk of me and my former roomate in hawaii and i want to go back. i was never so relaxed in all my life.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Not kinda great, STRAIGHT UP GREAT.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

O, and I read that Sarah and Nick got engaged. yay!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

They all look freaky as shit in that photo.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i'll treat myself for xmas or my birthday. if i start saving now i could actually do it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

things I am sad about 1) no good movies out right now 2) being single

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Jocelyn!

I left a comment on your LJ the other day about you visiting Chicago, but it might have been anonymous by mistake. At any rate, yes, let us know if you come!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was you.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Curses.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jocelyn! Welcome back to the internet! Hello!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, Hi, Jocelyn!

Ok, I was out sick today and I just now caught up reading this thread. Whew! And it was SO worth it.

So, about this movie... Nick and I have an appointment downtown (for the baby! SHH!!! - JUST KIDDING!) on Saturday at 5pm near Division & State. When's the earliest matinee?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ok dudes, I'm out. Wish my under-rehearsed band luck.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

it looks like maybe moline might be more in line with my vacation budget.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Or Evanston. Have you been there? I hear it's lovely this time of year.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

i've been to evanston once in the 6 years i've lived here. i passed through once before when i was in chicago for work. i want to get far away from chicago and the quad cities are about as far as my dollar will take me. hey wait a minute! MEGABUS!!! $1 fares to select midwest cities!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Showtimes for The Proposition: Friday, May 19 at 5:20, 7:30, and 9:40.

There's nothing about Saturday showtimes or matinees on the phone message or the wesbite because they can FUCK RIGHT OFF. Also, nobody answered at the "speak to a human" number.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I was kidding. I go to Evanston all the time. The movie theater is great, and the Northwestern campus is pleasant, and the restaurants are pretty good, and that temple -- OH! that temple. I guess I'm serious now. You should hang out in Evanston more.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I srsly need to make travel plans. For somewhere OTHER THAN HOME.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I email the MB and Saturday showtimes for The Proposition are:

1:20, 3:25, 5:30, 7:40, 9:50

Yay!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Strictly speaking, the Bahai Temple is in Wilmette.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Although actually, I've never been there myself -- I've just ridden my bike past it. And also used to work maybe a half-mile away.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Opening of a note sent to me through myspace today:
"Hey whats up, look what I am about to tell u is real and verifiably tru. I am a 20 yr old male from the south side of Chicago and I came to u to talk biznaz."

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Truer words have never, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I need to go to the eye doctor too, because the other day I was gently cleaning my glasses and they snapped CLEAN IN HALF! WTF! Which sucks because now I have to have my contacts in right until I am ready to go to sleep, which makes reading in bed not as fun. What's dumb though is that my vision plan only covers glasses OR contacts, and I was going to get new contacts and just keep my old glasses, but now I have to actually pay for some new glasses. I'm going to see how cheap they are Costco.

I saw a fat bunny right outside my work today as I left.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

That seems like an early bedtime even for you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Thread died early.

I read bad reviews of Proposition.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

Brush w/ reclusive fame tonight - got to trade hellos w/ c0rmac mccarthy.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

OH WOW!

Tonight I saw Match Point. Deferring judgment until tomorrow, but as of now I think I really like it. Actually, there's no need to defer. I liked it a lot. I'm just too tired to get into why.

I'm glad to know on which side of the fence I come down on this. Or rather, on which side of the net.

I liked the little play on words when they announce to the parents that the wife is pregnant (after Chris has been preparing hiding the shotgun and shells he used in the murder) and Mummy says, "Well, Chris looks shell-shocked."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 05:31 (nineteen years ago)

I was reminded of a small scene in a Mark Twain book (Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer) in which the boys have been poking around the cemetary all night and at breakfast the next day, "'You boys look tired,' Aunt Whatshername said gravely."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in trouble.

I've been up since 6:15 am and I'm too tired to sleep. And I work in the morning. Das ist not so good.

I really like Lolita. I think I'll use my Amazon gift card to buy the annotated Lolita right now.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

I really like Lolita. I think I'll use my Amazon gift card to buy the annotated Lolita right now.

At the risk of furthering my creepy status in ILE (which in some circles has gotten a little out of hand), may I just say that that Lolita is probably in my all-time top 5 books, and that this is not at all because I like little girls? Anyone who has read it will not require this disclaimer, but still.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm wondering what else in in that top 5.

Crime and Punishment? Sure.
Blood Meridian? With a bullet, pun intended. Maybe with a machete.

Bah. Not tonight.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

Uh yeah, Lolita is definitely great, and I also want that annotated version, though I haven't bought it because it seems silly to own two copies of the same book. But I still want it.

You can recommend me some fiction if you want. I got a $50 Borders card from my work for my b-day. I spent half on the new David Mitchell book, Black Swan Green, which so far is great without being as great as his other books. I was thinking about the newish Eco (the one with the pics throughout) but it looked like it could potentially be annoying. I thought about the reprinting of Flaubert's last novel, the title of which I'm not going to try and pull out of my ass, but I couldn't bring myself to buy an unfinished book and then I thought they probably have it at the library. I am in fiction mode right now though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Blood Meridian.

Jesse, where did you read bad reviews of The Proposition?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

41 out of the 47 reviews collected on Rotten Tomatoes are good, with an 87% A-OK rating, which is pretty darn high. There are a couple of bad reviews on there, but they are definitely the anomoly.

I was surprised when you posted that because I haven't heard anything bad about it, so I'm wondering how many and which bad reviews you read.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/proposition/

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a man eating an economy-sized tin of Spam(TM) with his bare hands this morning on the train. He dug his fingers into the tin and then shoveled the Spam(TM) into his mouth, showering the seat with meat crumbs.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

i was running late and had to eat on the train, sue me. next time say hello!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you decided to visit Evanston, then?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

I wish the Proposition was playing here, I'm sure Maddie would love to see it (i.e. the Nick Cave factor).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you decided to visit Evanston, then?

i really wanted to hang out with that soccer team up there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

mmm... seat meat.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I was in a rockin' mood this morning, so even though I usually keep my headphones barely above the level of train noise, today I rocked out. And whaddya know, my ears are ringing. It's hard to keep reminding myself that I CAN'T ROCK OUT. EVER.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you need better earphones?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

my ears have been ringing since the headache city show monday. i think 18 years of club shows have finally taken their toll. the left ear rarely doesn't ring anymore.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I have better earphones. Better than most people. I'm telling you, I have terrible tinnitus, and fuck you for looking at me weird for putting in earplugs at a live show. Fuck right off.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

People are bitchy about earplugs? I must have missed that, I feel like I see them at shows all the time!

Draaaaaaaaaging today.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

People are bitchy about earplugs. (A certain couple of people in a band must have asked me five times why I would wear earplugs at their show, since they weren't really that loud. They seemed offended.)

What I need, maybe, is big-ass hi-fi headphones with foam around the ears and such. Then it would block out more train noise, and I wouldn't have to make my ears ring to be able to hear anything. But then the batteries in my iPod would last about 20 minutes. Those things suck power.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Better, or BIGGER?

The gig last night was great. It was really a pleasure to play with those dudes and to actually pull off all these crazy nu-jazz tunes with one rehearsal.

On the other hand, the crowd wasn't exactly poppin', both I and the club handled the money situation very badly, and we only had about five original tunes so we ended up playing them again in the second set. Not that anyone noticed/cared.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Better, or BIGGER?

Better.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

They suck battery power? I didn't notice that. I know I mentioned this before, but the noise-canceling earphones really work for me. I don't have to turn up the volume so loud and I can hear even when the train is underground. The only songs that give me trouble are from CDs that haven't been remastered. Those sound like shit no matter where I listen to them.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

But then the batteries in my iPod would last about 20 minutes. Those things suck power.

Oh, seriously? I've never heard that.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

They suck battery power? I didn't notice that.

That's probably because I made it up. They LOOK like they suck power, don't they?

Noise cancelling! Yeah, I really should spluge on good earphones.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Um... splurge.

Yuck. Sorry.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good, I was just wondering today whether turning up the volume used any more battery power. I've been wanting the collapsible Koss Portapros with the bare metal headband but have so far refrained 'cos everyone says they're leaky as shit and I HATE standing on train/in elevator with people whose, like, remixed dance music is leaking out everywhere. I imagine they feel the same about Felt in the morning.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

i read it the intended way the first time. xp

the noise cancelling headphones i'd tried had their own batteries, so they probably would use AA batteries a good bit, but that's why they have rechargeables.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good, I was just wondering today whether turning up the volume used any more battery power.

That's absolutely true.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think turning up the volume causes battery suck, but using giant headphones has no bearing on battery suck, which is what Kenan postured. Rather, "made up."

I have Sonys and I stand by them. Little leakage, good sound even on quiet albums. They use one AAA battery every couple of months. Not a big expense.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Also, $40.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Make that $31!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet, I'm getting some for flights.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

I am so so sleepy. Please, just let me sleep.

The noise-cancelling headphones that I have seen (and the ones I bought and returned b/c they sucked a little) were powered by their own AAA or AA battery.

Bad reviews: The Reader and Onion AV Club (one of my most trusted sources for reviews) gave it a crappy review.

Waaaait... No, actually thre Reader gave it a Critic's Choice. Well then, it was the AV Club and something I read in a dream last night.

The reviews have been overwhelmingly positive.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Do you guys read movie reviews before you go see the movie? I don't. You never know if it's going to reveal too much, and I don't want to go into the movie with someone else's conception of the movie already in my head.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes, if I really liked or disliked the movie, I read the review after, to see if I agree.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

i do that all the time.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I do if I'm looking for interesting movies to see, or if someone has recommended a movie and I want to know more about it. I don't have the problem of (or with) having someone else's conception in mind. It can be nice in giving a new context for what I'm seeing.

Ebert's write-up on this movie was not really much of a review or critique at all; more of a summary and list of contributors and backgrounds. Weird.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I got a note unde my door from my neighbors with a recipe attached for "Borrow-Your-Neighbor's-Oven Chocolate Chip Cookies" and a very nice note. They are Quality People.

Their names are Korie and Chris. (Korie=F, Chris=M) Chris' father is a preacher man and Korie's parents go to his church. They're engaged, and have been dating on-and-off since they were 11 years old. WACKY.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

That's kinda icky.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Brenda:

walked very slowly across the couch, with each step stretching her body to full length and extending one paw to test the footfall before moving forward. She did this for a few steps and then crossed over to flowers on the coffee table where she put her face inside of the large white tulip and ate off all the pollen-covered stamens and then a petal.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tvacres.com/images/savage_fred3aa.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Lolita is solidly in my top 5 favorite books of all time. But I have not gotten as into other Nabakov. I LURV that book though.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tvacres.com/images/savage_fred3aa.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

oops, didnt' really mean to do that.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I've noticed Ebert often does the summary thing when he doesn't have much else to say.

Lolita is great. I think I'd like to read it again -- it's been nearly 12 years. (Which is about how old Dolores Haze was, amirite?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Lolita is Maddie's favorite book, or one of them.

I've never read any Nabokov, please don't tell the UW English program or they'll yank my degree. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I sometimes read reviews before I go to see a movie, but it's usually just to know whether it's supposed to be good or not, so I don't waste my time.

With longer reviews, like The New Yorker, unless I know that I'm probably not going to see the movie, I'll skim it but try not to read it too closely, because I don't want too much spoiled, and those are the reviews that are most rewarding to read after the fact, anyway.

Sometimes I'll be watching a movie and a phrase from a review will pop into my mind and I'll be unsure where it came from or if I just came up with it or what. When I was watching You Can Count on Me for the first time, in the Central Street theater in Evanston (RIP 2001), the phrase "Cheerios realism" kept lingering in my mind. I thought maybe I had read it in a book review, of someone like Bobbie Ann Mason, and I was like "OMG that totally applies here, too!" And then I got home and realized that it came wholesale from Andrew O'Hehir's Salon.com review, which I had been trying to forget but apparently unsuccessfully.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

I've never read any Nabokov, please don't tell the UW English program or they'll yank my degree. :(

I can't think of a single English class at K College that would've taught Nabokov. 20th C American lit wasn't really that well established during the time I was there -- although I suppose that's because they were overhauling the English curriculum at the time. I did take a course on American Lit 1860-1940 but nothing after that. Treating Nabokov as an American author is probably somewhat contentious, too. Although I guess at some schools you major in "literature" instead of "English" -- my friend Nicolas went to Bard (along with Hstencil) and wrote his senior thesis on Norwegian writer Knut Hamsun.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

You're like a fact machine this morning, Jaymc!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

what does everyone have on tap for this weekend?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

i typically read movie reviews after instead of before, unless i'm browsing for stuff to add to my netflix queue...with those i tend to forget reviews anyway by the time my movie comes in the mail. i'm pretty good at forgetting.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

A fact machine? You should see me on the Baby Name thread!

I'm a little stressed out because I went out last night to buy wedding clothes, and I found a really nice tie and some shoes that miraculously fit (okay, lots of room in the toe, but what else is new -- plus, they're dress shoes, so it's not like I'm actually going to be wearing them everyday) -- but I CANNOT FIND A SHIRT TO SAVE MY LIFE. This is probably exacerbated by not really knowing what size I am -- but let me ask you this: why are the only sizes relevant to men's dress shirts the neck and the sleeve length? I found a shirt where the neck was a little tight, so I tried on the next half-size up, and the whole goddamn shirt was so baggy, I was swimming in it. I need a personal tailor. Wedding's tomorrow, btw. I think I need to go to Marshall Field's at lunch. (This was all at Filene's yesterday.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I sometimes read reviews before I go to see a movie, but it's usually just to know whether it's supposed to be good or not, so I don't waste my time.

Ditto - usually not if it's a movie I really want to see, but if it's a movie that I think I'd like but that I'm skeptical of. See: DaVinci Code. Also, I read some reviews for The Proposition because it's very, very violent and I can handle that better if I know what's coming and when - so in this case, I WANT the movie to be spoiled for me. Actually, I often get more out of movies when I know what's going to happen, but I recognize that's weird and bad and wrong.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Get someone to measure you, John.

Otto, what's up tonight is Nick's birthday party. Be there. There will be lots of beer.

I don't read movie reviews unless I've already seen the movie. I leave that up to Nick. I don't want to run into any spoilers.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it was basically a lit major. Near the end some of my "english" classes were basically criticism/philosophy (all that Adorno/Foucault/that one French guy bullshit).

xxxpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, John, go to MF's and say "I don't know what size I am, but this is what I need." Dude will measure you and bring you shirts.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've been measured and still ended up with super-baggy dress shirts that could not possibly ever be worn untucked.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

You're not supposed to wear dress shirts untucked anyway!

Otto - come see a ultra violent western at the Music Box with us on Saturday at 1:20 pm.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Brunch thoughts, Jenny?

Jordan, Nick also requires that dress shirts be untuckable. ha ha

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Near the end some of my "english" classes were basically criticism/philosophy (all that Adorno/Foucault/that one French guy bullshit).

Jealous! I had to go to the UK to learn about that stuff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what's nearby, Sarah Bear. Do you know what's around there for eating? Jeff has his haircut at 11:30, but he should be done at noon so we can meet somewhere then. Does that sound reasonable?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I agree with the ladies: why would you ever untuck a dress shirt? Even the ones that "fit" come down to the knees, practically.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't much care for tucked-in shirts. They always balloon out and make me look fatter than I am.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Can I just tell you that last night I thought of "Dan Dan Peed in a Pan" and LAUGHED and LAUGHED?

Jesse - after I looked at Rotten Tomatoes, I thought that AV Club review might have been the one you'd read, because I know you are an Onion man. I'm honestly very nervous about the violence, but I will just hide my eyes a lot. Maybe Sarah and I can sit next to each other and cling for safety if it gets too bad.

xpost - They are long so that they... STAY TUCKED IN! Because that's what dress shirts are supposed to do - stay tucked in. But they make dress-looking casual shirts that aren't long. They are on hangers, not all folded and pinned up in the bins.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Dining options near the Music Box:

Banana Leaf (Thai, and better than Once Upon a Thai down the street)
Blue Bayou (good Cajun food)
Uncommon Ground (probably best for brunch)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

John, you could wear one as a shirtdress. Just belt it like Sienna!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Siena Miller? I'm lost.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Probably Sienna Miller. I know this from gofugyourself.com, which is one of the best websites for mocking celebrities and their fashion choices EVER.

Shall we brunch at Uncommon Ground? Will it be very crowded at noon on a Saturday?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I like the shirts on hangers. The ones that can be untucked w/jeans or tucked in w/slacks (and, admittedly, come untucked in the event of stretched or getting something off the top shelf).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

not all folded and pinned up in the bins.

Oh man, that's the other horrible thing -- it takes like 10 minutes just to get the fucking shirt unpinned and out of the package before you can even try it on! Then I feel like an idiot handing it back to the attendant with the dressing stall still littered with pins and cardboard and plastic collars.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Can I just tell you that last night I thought of "Dan Dan Peed in a Pan" and LAUGHED and LAUGHED?

You and like fucking 90% of my 3rd grade class!

(seriously, I'm grinning now)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Uncommon Ground sounds good. I've been wanting to check it out anyway. A plan, then? Noon?

Ha ha. I was just looking at gofugyourself right after I mentioned sienna.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Weird thing last night: we were playing some slowcore jazz and all of a sudden my eyes stung and teared up, like someone blew smoke in my face (which is impossible, because of the smoking ban) or because of freshly cut onions (which would be weird, because the kitchen is on the other side of the club).

Then it happened again in the second set, when we were playing THE SAME SONG.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

WEIRD.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

That's called "crying" Jordan.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Dan: if yr dress shirts balloon out and make you look/feel fat, THEY'RE TOO BIG IN THE BODY. Find a slimmer cut/brand. Boys in shirts that actually fit look AWESOME regardless of the state of their abs.

XP: haha, Amanda. AND WE SHOULD KNOW.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

And how.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ah yes, you would think so, but the slim cut cannot contain MY MASSIVE SHOULDERS.

Something something tailored shirts...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

You're so manly, Dan.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

John, I totally sympathize with you feeling bad about the shirt thing, but you need a shirt and that's really what the folks are there fore. It's easier to buy stuff like that at a nice department store like that because the staff there is used to helping people a lot. So it's okay - go and get your shirt and as a work rights advocate, I absolve you of shopping guilt because I know you won't be a jerk to anybody.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have no use for your weak "emotions", Amanda. I just make hot beats.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

John (re something you wrote a while ago this morn), the English department at my college had that same problem - a whole lot of great books slipped through the cracks of a traditional canon. No Chekhov, no Kafka, etc. Maybe there was one 'World Literature' class, but the rest were 'American Lit 18xx-19xx', '17th Century British Lit', etc. By senior year, all of my lit classes were in other departments - 'Jews and Literature' (Religion), 'Postwar German Novel' (German dept., in English), etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

(it is an extremely pretty song, though)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Postal Service song "Brand New Colony" made me tear up this morning. Then a bunch of geese and @ 10 of thier babies crossed the street with me. That's somewhat unrelated.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

You're so manly, Dan.

I hope I don't come off as some testosterone-raged-jock.

Although I was flexing after I wrote that bit about my shoulders.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, my last post sounds dumb as hell, even for me.

Sometimes my eyes tear up like that for no reason, except external stimulus. I used to tear up every time I talked to an old boss, seriously.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I would never totally cry, my eyes would just get watery.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

haha Sarah don't cry, you can leave this indie scene behind and be with the one you love!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Because of B.O.? Boss odor? xxpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

There are probably 8-10 trains of thought that'll cause me to start crying ON THE SPOT, especially when I've been sitting at a desk all day with nothing to do but think too much. Most significant feature of those trains: probably my mother.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I miss my kitty. I want to go home and snuggle with her.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Dan - No, I don't really know why. I mean, I think it was something emotional - I really hated her and she was a dreadfully mean and manipulative human being that it took an awful lot of mental strength to stand up to on a daily basis. So I guess that I would tear up as a physical response since I was seriously capping my emotional response, which would have been to punch her in the snot locker.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Friendly co-worker: 'TGIF! Laurel, yo mama so big, when she makes scambled eggs, she...' (weeping ensues)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Someone broke down weeping in the middle of a yo mama joke? THat must be the low point of that person's life.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Eric -- we didn't even have a World Lit class, though! I suspect the only departments where you'd read literature not from the U.S., U.K., or Commonwealth would be foreign-language departments (and even then I'm not sure they'd be in translation) and the Theatre Dept. -- although I did have an Intro to Drama class that was cross-listed betw English and Theatre.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

There is not enough server space on ILX for me to enumerate the things that make me cry.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yo mama so fat she eats Wheat Thicks.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Happy ending: When I quit that job, I lread to her from an actual paper list of complaints I had about her professional demeanor. I didn't even get to the list of personal issues I had with her before SHE started crying. And yelling at me to get out of her warehouse. Which I didn't do - I finished out my two weeks! Ha!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/1/126356462_6dbd60ab43_m.jpg

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

My mother sings the John Denver song "Follow Me" for people's weddings and I can't get it through it, singing or listening, with dry eyes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, what do we think of this English-only proposition that the Senate just approved? I posted a little comment on the immigration thread, but I'm admittedly out of my element there -- I just know that I was walking to the train this morning and saw the Tribune headline and then proceeded to rant to Kr. about how the reason America is such a great country is because it's so multicultural and how I recognize immigration is a thorny issue but feeling the need to establish an official language just feels like a symbolic Fuck You borne out of nothing more than xenophobia.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel -- do you cry because your mother is a Good Woman?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, is that yr cat? IS THAT YR HOUSE?? *I* want a bay window and varnished baseboards!!

Jay, is that another song ref? I cry because my mother is half my heart. See? Crying.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

No, not a song reference. I don't know why I capitalized that, really.

http://www.ryerson.ca/news/events/theatre/images/20041116_good_woman.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

This is the companion to the lounging cat photo:
http://static.flickr.com/56/119133118_45f82b331e.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

My way of dealing with the most unprofessional person I've ever met at the job I had for the longest time was to mercilessly mock him regularly. He was the owner's son -- which may make this sound like a bad idea, but I was one of the best employees they had and they knew it so I got away with it mostly scot free. Good fucking times.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Aw! Laurel! You are so sweet.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

John, "xenophobia" sums it all up pretty nicely.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, that is our apartment, which I love. That is Nick's kitty, Lucy, whom I also love, but from a distance.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

The Innocence Mission covers "Follow Me" on Birds of My Neighborhood, a very cryworthy record. But tears of joy! Or tears from the intensity of some beautiful moment - most of the songs are about capturing that. Really!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, what do we think of this English-only proposition that the Senate just approved? I posted a little comment on the immigration thread, but I'm admittedly out of my element there -- I just know that I was walking to the train this morning and saw the Tribune headline and then proceeded to rant to Kr. about how the reason America is such a great country is because it's so multicultural and how I recognize immigration is a thorny issue but feeling the need to establish an official language just feels like a symbolic Fuck You borne out of nothing more than xenophobia.

I agree that it's a symbolic FU, and also agree about not posting on that immigration thread because I am way too pollyanna to be there. But it is just that, symbolic. HOWEVER, as an ESL teacher, I find that learning English is nothing short of empowering for people who come here speaking other languages. I think "outlawing" other languages is straight up stoopid, and won't happen, but I obviously don't see any problem with people learning English and using it to communicate in the public sphere. Anything goes in the private sphere, obvs.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Lucy is awesome.

Impressive/annoying 4 year old Japanese pop star

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Totally, I agree with that. And part of what I said on the other thread is that I really don't think that the effects of such legislation will be all that disastrous -- it's just the fact that people felt it was necessary in the first place is what really aggravates me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/47/145234186_af674f3e77_m.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Agreeance w/ Amanda and Dan.

Also, currently there are laws against "English only rules" in the workplace, which mean that an employer can require employees to speak English during working hours while on the job provided there's a safety or business necessity justification BUT they can't require that employees speak English on breaks or during lunch or like, "at all times while on company property." So I worry that a declaration of English as the Official Language would impact these laws and make it easier for employers to engage in race and national origin discrimination, which is pretty fucky easy enough as it is.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yo mama so fat she's on both sides of the family.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

I also bristle because being opposed to "English Only" legislation doesn't mean being opposed to people learning English. I would really hate for my students to stop feeling really good about their English classes (which they do) and start feeling "oppressed" linguistically. That would be tragic.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yo mama so fat she broke her leg, and gravy came out.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yo mama so stupid that she tried to put M&M's in alphabetical order.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only sweet on my mother, mostly. There aren't too many other people I trust to that extent, and fewer these days than there used to be. BAH WHY AM I SO EMO TODAY?? Poss not enough sleep BECAUSE I'M CRYING AGAIN. Fuckin' A.

Holy awesome, Jenny -- where did you get the chutzpah to make yr evil boss cry and then work out yr two weeks??

Oh EZ, I saw Innocence Mission once and she was so...serene and joyful and like the only light on in a room. My flippant, catty friend and I streamed tears all through the set.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm always kinda interested in the Indian dudes here at work that, when speaking to each other about technical software stuff, sometimes speak in English and sometimes in their native language.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Fascism Dominoes!

National Anthem
Pledge of Allegiance
National Language

coming soon: National Airline, National ID Card, National Sports Riots, etc etc

OK, this is a little silly, but this nationalistic shit creeps me out. Ethnic cleansing and all that. Yikes.

xxxpost I have a deep love for Indian-style English. It's the official Language of India, y'know.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's weird to watch Indian movies and hear them (seemingly randomly) drop into English for a couple of lines.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

When they speak in their native language, they are talking about you.

And I could not agree with Dan Dan Peed in a Pan more.

And Laurel, I don't know! It was the first time I'd ever done such a thing (not the last though RAR!) and I think it was born of complete desperation. I was so angry with this woman after a year of abuse that I just lost it completely. And then when she started to crumble and I realized that she was just a big bully, I got all empowered and was like "YEAH AND I'M NOT LEAVING EITHER I AM WORKING OUT MY TWO WEEKS AND YOU WILL LIKE IT A LOT." And it worked, and I couldn't believe it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

So long as no one is lumping ESL teachers in with the fascists, I'm alright.

Happy, proud stoods:

http://static.flickr.com/44/141495401_142e874af2.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Stoods? That's not very flattering.

Yo mama so stupid when you stand next to her you hear the ocean.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yo mama so old her social security number is 1.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Students! Jeez. I'm allowed to call them stoods. Studes? Whatever.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm beginning to think that Nick, Ben, and I will be drinking a LOT of beer tonight.

Kevin, I didn't see your name on the evite, but Nick had asked me for your addy and I failed you, so just know that you are invited. Email me for deets.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, are those YOUR stoods, Amanda?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! And I am in the middle.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

i don't understand the outcry, our neighbors to the north and south both have national languages. is there a disproportionate amount of oppression among canadians who don't speak english or french?

are there any real teeth to this proposed legislation? seems symbolic to me based on what little i've read.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

So long as no one is lumping ESL teachers in with the fascists, I'm alright.

Absolutely not! Some of my best friends are ESL teachers! (ok, that was a bad joke, but seriously, all joking aside, they are)

xxxxpost stude dudes

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, I didn't see your name on the evite

I CAN TAKE A HINT!!!!~

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, you don't stand out because you're not wearing the requisite embroidered sweater with apple cutouts.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

As for the party tonight, I'm meeting some old co-workers for drinx in Evanston at 7 pm, and I sorta need to get to bed early tonight because my train to Detroit tomorrow leaves at 8 am -- but I would also really like to come to the party.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I am part of the Revolution -- teachers who are NOT part of the Puffy Paint Cru.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, just one more:

Yo mama so ugly Ted Dansen wouldn't date her.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

seems symbolic to me based on what little i've read.

Yeah this is part of the problem in my eyes. It's pointless, they could be helping people instead of pretend-repressing them!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

But John! So far only you and Kenan are coming!!!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

xp - They could be giving me a full time job, for instance.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, teachers are not supposed to be shorter than all of their students, it's not natural. Please address.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

My work tonight requires me to see a musical version of The Spitf1re Grill and I'm carless and have to get up early tomorrow, so I likely can't make it, alasss.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, 'manda, I didn't see you there in the class photo! Cute!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Haha -- I had to scooch down because the people in the back were so short. I'm about as tall as Muoi, the Vietnamese lady to my left. Also, they're adults.

I would totally come tonight if I weren't going to a graduation celebration for my hubs!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

XP: HIGHER HEELS

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah this is part of the problem in my eyes. It's pointless, they could be helping people instead of pretend-repressing them!

well that depends on your point of view. isn't there language in the legislation to make english a "unifying language"? again, i haven't read much about it so take that with a grain of salt, but what's the harm in proposing unity? if there are no consequences for not being united what's the harm (apart from wasted time) in proposing it?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

tonight i'm going to the hideout for mandy & twins and the busy signals then skipping out on alex white's set to haul ass to the bottle to catch the country teasers.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't some other people propose unity, like THE NAZIS????

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I see exclusion more than unity in this. It's like a more-equal-than-others thing.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

But basically it's the language of the marketplace/public sphere. There are plenty of countries where people speak one language in the news, school, etc. and another at home (see: diglossia) There's no need to legislate it, since it's already true for the most part, but AS LONG AS people aren't being told that they aren't "allowed" to speak their own languages when and where they please, it's not really worthy of intense moral outrage.

I never thought I would say this, but I LOVE MY JOB. Well, my job on Saturdays. Hopefully there will be more where that came from soon.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i can TOTALLY see the correlation between having a national language and exterminating a race of people. that's what they've been doing in canada for decades.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Interview with Pete Seeger on Fresh Air -- very cool. Though I will never get over the image of him freaking out backstage at Newport and trying to cut the wires to Dylan's band. Unplugged, indeed.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

There's no need to legislate it, since it's already true for the most part

But that's what bothers me!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

i need a radio in this room. maybe i can get some dental fillings tuned.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me: I used to have this pin I wore in HS that said "I don't speak English-only" -- this debate has been going on forever.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

it's totally fun to listen in on other people's conversations when they think that you wouldn't understand their language. my language skillz have probably rusted too much to do that anymore.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

It's not the concept of a national language itself that bothers me, it's the context in which it's being (potentially) implemented.

Okay, I'm leaving in a few minutes to take the D1gdown master to the presses.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Interview with Pete Seeger on Fresh Air -- very cool.

From 1984! Good lord. Terry Gross knows no bounds of time and space.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

My grandma had a friend named Bea Gross.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Last week I heard a bit of her interview with West Wing actor John Spencer ... FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE. Or from a year ago, I guess.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I heard that too... I think it was from 2001.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, best part of that was that I tuned in halfway through and was like, "Huh, this guy's voice is SO familiar," and then as soon as Terry addressed him as John, I was like "Dude. John Spencer." And I'd never even seen The West Wing before.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

BLUES EXPLOSION:

http://clarkblog.typepad.com/clarkblog/images/john_spencer.gif http://www.courttv.com/graphics/onair/hiphop_justice/russell-simmons.jpg http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2002-05-23/music_feature-1.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, not to be more of a starchaser after last night's serendipity, but look who's at Borders at 6 tonight - Rachel fuckin' Ray! What do you say, fellas?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

He was on the WW? I enjoyed some Blues Explosion back in the day.

Rachel Ray...eggs...Rachel Ray...eggs...getting ideas

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Was last night really a chance meeting? I assumed you had gone to see him read or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

He was on the WW? I enjoyed some Blues Explosion back in the day.

Jon Spencer was not on The West Wing, but John Spencer was. Similarly, Russell Simins was in Blues Explosion, but Russell Simmons was not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

(There are no other celebrities that have names that sound like Judah Bauer.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

He's got a new (really good) play at the tiny theater at Steppenw0lf, and last night was the first preview, so I was keeping an eye out, I guess.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I heard that DeLillo has a play at Steppenwolf, too -- know if it's supposed to be good?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

DeLillo's is already published, so you can browse it and see - 3 acts about euthenasia - it's gotten mixed reviews, but I guess it'd at least be interesting (even if tedious/interesting).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Rachel Ray...eggs...Rachel Ray...eggs...getting ideas

Are you going to impregnate her?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

The only idea that gave me was to add some Nicolas Roeg movies to my Netflix queue.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it.

Other thing I don't get: picture of Russell Simmons. I may as well get this all out of the way in one post.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

If "impregnate" is a synonym for "douse with egg" then YES. EVOO indeed.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

pelt or douse?

douse...or PELT?

I don't even really dislike her all that much, although she is reeeeeeally annoying.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

1) Ray ... eggs ... Ray-eggs ... Rayggs ... Roeg

(Yeah, I dunno.)

2) http://www.courttv.com/graphics/onair/hiphop_justice/russell-simmons.jpg

Russell Simmons, hip-hop guru

http://www2.labelsmusic.de/_media/556wic3mk494ji3sesimcqt3n4zqajrf/image-200.jpg

Russell Simins, Blues Explosion drummer

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://i3log.com/uploads/rachael-ray-picture_ray.JPG

http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/Rachelle%20Bowden/2005_10_rachael_ray.jpg

Next time on "Daisy Duke's Kitchen": We gon' scare us up a mess of cornbread.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Just...wow. RR is not a person with a body that looks fab from any angle. I back her, but that denim outfit is doing NOTHING good.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Those look Photoshopped.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure she's not that tan.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, but in addition to that whoever posed for the body-parts is INCREDIBLY AWKWARD. Neither of them is standing REMOTELY like a human being, not even in a porny kind of way.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'm guessing that in the bottom photo, the original person's head was not grotesquely turned so that it directly faced the camera.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://jenny-power.blogspot.com/2005/03/open-letter-to-rachael-ray.html

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

No, but the angle of the knees and partic the back leg is still a problem.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

It's confirmed, I am a slacker. I've worked at the U of C for more than a year now and I only got my staff ID card today. The woman in the ID office gave me a funny look when she said "are you a new hire?"

The upside is: Apple Education Discount, here I come!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Dan, wanna buy me a laptop?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Sure! I've got this extra 3 grand I wasn't doing anything with!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Bah. We used to get a discount through our corporate masters but since we've been bought out now, I don't know whether it still applies.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

My student ID doesn't have a date on it. HaHA!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I really shouldn't have gotten that second slice of pizza for lunch. But the lure of Ian's was too tempting, esp. because I was buying pizza from IAN HIMSELF.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone is interested in the play of which EZ speaks, I am planning to go see it on Thursday, June 8 w/ my favorite Emily. Tickets are $15.

Didn't Canada make English it's national language just to piss off Quebec?

Are those photos really of Rachel Ray?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/958/untitled29.jpg

I think so.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I admit being surprised that one wasn't in the first round of postings.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I had a daisy duke joke to make.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Besides -- ew. Sticky food messes != sexy.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

!=?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

The skating skirt is far more flattering.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

EZ: does not equal.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

RR's more of a smiler and a charming talker than a model, anyways.

Guess what I'm listening to. Give up? It's the new FFs! That opening number threw me for a loop - I thought I had put in the wrong CD for a minute - fun, fun.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Gimme.

I dropped the master and the monies, so we should finally have that damn cd out in two or three weeks. I also met some cool girls from a Milwaukee band called the T0ms, a very sweet cat, and a yappy, muzzled weiner dog.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I want a copy of that. Can Sarah or Nick bring a copy to the party tonight? Plz? I'll pay retail.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'll try and remember to bring cds tonight.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm annoyed at her for posing for those pictures. She's a chef with multiple television shows and books and a considerable amount of economic and personal power, and yet she's willing to dress up as a cooking prostitute and totally downplay her accomplishments as a business professional and the face of a wickedly successful brand name in favor of her "body," which probably is really not even what she looks like naked.

Irritating. But I never liked her much anyway.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

It's not just putting her body before her skills and her smarts, it's also her willingness to play into base stereotypes of what a successful woman really is - it's not being a powerful business woman, it's being a sex machine who cooks after she blows you.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Taking sides: Mall rat who hasn't mastered the application of makeup or Tijuana hooker?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1400082536.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Clown.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

it's being a sex machine who cooks after she blows you.

call me easy to please but i would gladly take one or the other.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Cooking after, or cooking before? Hahah XP

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

cooking before, definitely.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

it's not being a powerful business woman, it's being a sex machine who cooks after she blows you

Yeah, it seems like there's a difference between this and, say, Madonna's sexualization, and the difference is the domestic housewife-y aspect of it. She's an inch away from barefoot and pregnant.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

She did those photos a few years ago - I'm guessing if she knew how successful her show would be that wouldn't have. But that's just my projection.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

cooking before, definitely.

You know what they say... the way to a man's heart is through the turkey baster.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Worked for me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

So then she did it thinking that it would further her career, which is also very disappointing. And FHM??? Gross. That's just pandering.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't, say, George Clooney also perpetuate the image of a guy who would cook for you after going down?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I'm going to the conveniaence store downstairs, and they better goddamn well have sour patch kids, or there's going to be hell to pay.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to agree with Jenny. I don't know about Clooney but I don't mind his perpetuation of that image at all. MORE PLEASE.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't, say, George Clooney also perpetuate the image of a guy who would cook for you after going down?

He might, but he does it without posing in Cosmo holding a pan of meatloaf and wearing a banana hammock.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

haaaaaaahahaha

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

What, and let someone else in my kitchen? How would I ever know the onions were chopped small enough unless I did it myself??

XXP: Mwahaha

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Whereas Bourdain projects the image of a guy who'll go to Chinatown, pick up a chicken, pluck it, go down on you, let it simmer, go down on you again, set the table, do you on the table, re-set the table, uncork some old barolo, and serve a three-course dinner.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen his Cook's Tour show and there's no way I'd let that guy's mouth anywhere near my lady parts.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

You forgot shooting up heroin in his neck, EZ.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Heroin and cigarettes, oops, those are in there somewhere.

(I don't disagree with you, Jenny - the photos are degrading and she chosen to do 'em.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Whew! Sourness acheived. We're back at defcon 5.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Who was it that Bourdain was talking about when he said he "cooks like he's never had a decent fuck in his life"? I forgot. But I laughed about that for a week.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Bourdain. Unfair advantage.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

That guy sounds totally vile.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think he's the one who thinks food allergies don't exist.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I'm sure he's an asshole -- that may, in fact, BE his unfair advantage.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Bourdain is awesome.

No Sarah, you're thinking of the other dude.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Cruise?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

ha, that's the first thing i thought too.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, Jeffrey Steingarten?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Those essays are really interesting, about scientific studies that show that the people who actually have food allergies are drastically way less than the people who say they have food allergies. I believe the essay focused on MSG and lactose intolerence.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, Steingarten. Now there's an asshole -- you ever see him as a judge on Iron Chef? Bourdain is my kind of asshole; Steingarten is a stuffy, snobby prick of an asshole. I like his writing, but God, I can't imagine having dinner with him.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

OH is he the one that the Cooking Homo from Queer Eye always takes little jabs at? He does strike me as a bit no fun.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Ted. The Cooking Homo's name is "Ted."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's kind of funny that yesterday I was saying that food snobbery is pointless, and today I'm praising Bourdain and Steingarten.

I know nothing of Steingarten aside from his writing, which is great.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.adequatulence.com/hartman/vault/pictures/anal-retentive-chef-big.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Suddenly, everybody has become lactose-intolerant. But the truth is that very, very few of us are so seriously afflicted that we cannot drink even a glass of milk a day without trouble. I know several people who have given up cheese to avoid lactose. But fermented cheeses contain no lactose! Lactose is the sugar found in milk; 98 percent of it is drained off with the whey (cheese is made from the curds), and the other 2 percent is quickly consumed by lactic-acid bacteria in the act of fermentation.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

1. I still find it weird that you guys know so much about celebrity chefs -- as far as I'm concerned, they don't exist outside of ILX.

2. The photo of Rachael Ray on that 30 Minute book looks vaguely like Claire Danes.

3. I want my Raw Yang. Please bring copies, yes.

4. I totally bought a new shirt at Marshall Field's, and I think it looks great. It's Liz Claiborne and was on sale -- only $25! First thing I did when I walked in the store was ask a salesperson to measure my neck, which made things a lot easier after that.

5. (xpost) Yes, Ted Allen. He's the one cooking dude I know. I like him -- he seems sensible.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

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― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

All I ever learned from Ted Allen is that blowtorches are hella fun.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know Liz made shirts for the menfolk too.

I totally told Nick & Ben they should set up a Fake Fictions merch table at their party. ha ha

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I want t-shirts! My FF Guernica shirt quickly became not-so-colorfast, even with an ironing.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Good job on the shirt, John! In no time, you will be able to navigate the labyrinth of commonplace goods and services all on your own.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

We missed the Green City Market kickoff yesterday (I thought it was tomorrow) - free, with "a local menu of delicious hors d'oeuvres, prepared by local chefs using early spring produce from the Market's farmers (generously arranged by Chef Chris Nugent of Les Nomades, an ardent Market supporter). Participating chefs include: Terry Crandall of the Peninsula Hotel, Jason Handleman of Fox & Obel, Gale Gand of Tru, Mindy Siegel of Hot Chocolate."

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

even with an ironing.

Speaking of irons, I feel like I should maybe iron this shirt before I wear it tomorrow.

Step One: Get an iron somehow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

If I could lie down and take a twenty minute nap, I would gladly give my boss $1/min.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

John: a twenty dollar bill will get you an iron and an ironing board at Target.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

John, we've got an iron and an ironing board if you want to come over and borrow it.

JORDAN that is weird! I just read an article today in the Red Eye (free commuter paper but out by the Trib that is designed for addle-pated pre-coffee morning commuters) about how there was a shop in the Mall of America, I think, that offered a place for people to nap for $20 for 30 minutes but that it closed because it was too expensive.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, yeah, but then we'll have to go into a long and involved discussion of how to buy an iron and an ironing board.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'll give John the $20 so he can buy an iron, but then he has to test my software for 20 min.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Jenny, that's bullshit. If I was at the mall, I would pay no more than...$3.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Problem: My train leaves at 8 am, and I have plans to drink with two separate parties tonight immediately after work!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really care about celebrity chefs as celebrity chefs. They're just both really entertaining writers. And reading about food makes me want to cook more interesting stuff.

Hi. Did you know that I'm currently obsessed with the Futureheads? Especially their new song which is called "Skip to the End"? It's fantastic!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

People look at a lot of porn on the computer libraries. What is interesting is that a number of these people remove the privacy screens while viewing adult material. Lessee-- on the left we have an old guy looking at young boys and on the right we have a black dude looking at Asian girls doing black dudes. Farther down the row we have a Gay.com/Bedfellow viewer.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Jesse.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

(But seriously, dudes, I have used an iron and ironing board before, so no worries. I had a temp job at Ameritech for about six weeks in the fall of 2000, and it was sort of a business-casual environment. But my brother took the iron with him when he moved out.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, where do you read these chef-writers? Do they have popular books that aren't just cookbooks?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

A friend and I had the idea a few years back for a business called Naps-to-Go - basically vans, campers, whatever would drive around the city, and you could pay to climb in the back and take a nap. If you needed to go somewhere, it could also work as a taxi service while you napped.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

There was a grad student always looking at raunchy-ass pr0n in the lab at my school. She was doing her PhD "research" it turns out. She is now a prof. at Michigan St.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

"you could pay to climb in the back and take a nap."

OK, THAT'S NOT A KIDNAPPING WAITING TO HAPPEN OR ANYTHING

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I was also thinking this morning, when I was desperately remembering how to tie a tie (I do think it's coming back to me) -- that when I was younger I had far more occasions to dress formally than I do now: school dances, graduations, awards banquets, choir concerts, etc. You think when you become an adult is when you have to start looking nice, but really the opposite has been the case for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, yeah, it's also when you can choose to stop going to those things.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey steingarten is the food writer for vogue (or was, i don't keep track), and has two noncookbook books out that are great reading.

hang shirt up, take into bathroom, take hot shower. you can kinda steam it that way, it can help.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

But the opportunity has never even presented itself!

Btw, I used to see dudes in the Evanston Public Library looking at porn, when I had to go there a couple times a week for work. One guy went so far as to print the stuff out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

John: Bourdain got famous with "Kitchen Confidential," which is definitely not a cookbook. It's a really fun read, though. There's a lot of fun drug stories and... I liked the wedding party at one restaurant where the bride got drunk and got rutted by the head chef in the alley. Great stories.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

You mean "rut" meaning "fuck" isn't just a word that Tom Wolfe uses? (One of the parts of I Am Charlotte Simmons that rang false for me.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Tip: Stay away from Bourdain's fiction

xpost: I believe he used the words "rear ended."

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

the bride got drunk and got rutted by the head chef

Your use of the passive voice makes it sound against her will.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

xpost It means "fuck," but has a certain pig-like connotation that better describes sex by a dumpster.

I believe he used the words "rear ended."

Did he? Oh, even better.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Steingarten has never been a chef. He was actually a lawyer for a long time before becoming food writer for Vogue.

Bourdain has two very popular noncookbook books: Kitchen Confidential, which isn't really so much about food as it is about being a chef and was briefly made into a TV show, and A Cook's Tour, which is as much a travel book as it is a food book - kind of like a Paul Theroux travel book actually, as he can be pretty nasty when he wants to.

xpost

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

rut
4 entries found for rut.
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rut[1,noun]rut[2,intransitive verb]rut[3,noun]rut[4,transitive verb]

Main Entry: 1rut
Pronunciation: 'r&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English rutte, from Middle French rut roar, from Late Latin rugitus, from Latin rugire to roar; akin to Middle Irish rucht roar, Old Church Slavonic ruzati to neigh
1 : an annually recurrent state of sexual excitement in the male deer; broadly : sexual excitement in a mammal (as estrus in the female) especially when periodic
2 : the period during which rut normally occurs -- often used with the

I've always considered it a Britishes word.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Your use of the passive voice makes it sound against her will.

It did to me too, but in that anecdote she comes looking for it. Just sayin' -- I recently re-read the book.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I just think it's interesting to use language that casts women in a passive role during sex, particularly in this case if she "came looking for it." Wouldn't it make more sense to say that she fucked him if she were the party who orchestrated the tryst? I'm not criticizing Kenan or Anthony Bourdain - just making a sort of general linguistic observation.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Steingarten's name sounds familiar -- has he written for The New Yorker, perchance?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Thinking out loud, if you will. Language as it reflects societal stereotypes about women's role in sex. Kind of ties in with Rachel Ray as cooking sex robot, sort of, somewhere deep in my brain.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

He wrote for Vogue. John, I think you just outed yourself as a Vogue reader.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

I used "rut" once when chewing out this guy who was hitting on my boyfriend. He was a mutual friend, weird, geeky, and had a fake English accent. No wait, I think I used "estrus." Yes, I did.

He called and wanted to come over to our house and I said, "You can come over, BUT NOT IF YOU'RE STILL IN ESTRUS!"

Oh look. That guy is now watching a video which he keeps rewinding and freeze-framing. it is a girl in diapers and a bib, being powdered and spanked and fucked. He freezes on a scene in which the girl takes out her pacifier and sucks a dick instead. Awwwww! So cute!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Bourdain has a new book of essays out this week - odds-and-ends from magazines, etc. I read one of 'em in Borders yesterday before the play, an account of visiting the celebrity-chef restaurants in Las Vegas.

Wolfe did that in A Man In Full as well, using animal terms to describe human bodies and sexuality.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny -- the idea of "being fucked" is an interesting one. I feel like both parties should be able to use the word "fuck" in an active sense, no matter who is penetrating whom. But I don't know that everyone agrees about that. I was going to tell a story, but I have chosen not to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Thinking out loud, if you will.

I know that my general MO with feminist issues is to shoot first and ask questions later, but I'm really just musing aloud, I swear, and not picking a fight.

Maybe I will go get Kitchen Confidential out of the library after work today, actually. I've wanted to read that for a long time.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

If memory serves she was looking for cocaine, too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

That xposted with John, who speaks to the exact issue on which I was musing.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ain't no shame in reading Vogue -- I sometimes read Renee's copy just for James Wolcott's column. (Although I don't think that's where I recognize Steingarten's name.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Two people can fuck. If you are referring to a specific act of penetration, then only the pentrating partner can "fuck." If you are talking about the penetrated partner engaging in sex in general, then the penetrated could be said to have fucked as well.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

(Maybe I'm thinking of Jeffrey Goldberg?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

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― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was lucky enough to read Kitchen Confidential before Bordain acheived his current level of fame. If I were to read it now I would read it in light of knowing what a pompous douche he is or at least has become.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

All I'm going to say is, if I say, "Do you want to fuck me?" the answer "I want you to fuck me" or "I want to be fucked by you" isn't really what I'm looking for.

FYI, you know, in case I'm ever fucking one of you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

The person or people actively moving are the ones fucking. If you're not moving, you're being fucked.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

"All I'm going to say is, if I say, "Do you want to fuck me?" the answer "I want you to fuck me" or "I want to be fucked by you" isn't really what I'm looking for.
FYI, you know, in case I'm ever fucking one of you."

Good to know.

Dan, you're not OTM.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa. Bad clipboard. Bad.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan's fucking the money (OTM).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, Dan, not Jordan!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I think I agree with Dan.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

it's friday huh.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

We're a bunch of lazy guys, see.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfe used the word "rutting" NON STOP in that book! Also: solar plexus, trapezius muscles. (A Man in FUll)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Meaning, the fucker/fuckee roles are fluid within a single series of fuckifications.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I work with a 300lb Mexican man. He said, "Oooh, my 6' Black papi fucked me hard last night! My hole is piiiiink today!"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Before this conversation goes too far afield, may I just say that my decision to use passive voice was a conscious one, and had everything to do with a) the inebriated state of the bride, and b) the fact that the tryst took place in very close proximity to garbage. My sexist assumption was that the chef was the agressor in this situation, no matter what the drunken bride claimed to have wanted.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't done any work for like two hours because there is none to do. I think I will see about getting out of here.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfe used the word "rutting" NON STOP in that book! Also: solar plexus, trapezius muscles. (A Man in FUll)

Haha really? He used "rutting" and "solar plexus" ALL THE TIME in Charlotte Simmons. I don't remember "trapezius muscles."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I could go for some seriously dirty rutting. Making love is nice, but nasty is sometimes in order.

There. There is a likely candidate!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I totally agree w/ Dan and Jordan re: who's fucking whom.

I know this big Mexican man and OMG. That's all I can articulate: OMG.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone please make him quit it with the solar plexus? That's just lazy!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Da me tu leche papito"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Now that I think about it, I might agree with Dan, too. Huh. I'm not saying any more than that, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

He told me "He had that big black rod so far up my asshole I could taste it in the back of my throat!"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Catullus 32

Please, my sweet Ipsitilla,
my darling, my dear,
command me to come to your siesta.
And if you order me, help me out;
don't let anyone bar the door,
nor let the fancy strike you to go out,
but stay in your house and get ready for us
nine non-stop fuckifications.
However if you'll do anything, call me over right away:
for I am sated and stuffed and supine,
poking out through my tunic and cloak.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

As for me, and other gay men, I think the fucking/getting fucked distinction is pretty crucial. "Let's fuck" means one thing, but "I would like to fuck you" means that I'm the penetrator whether I'm moving or not.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I got Jeffrey Steingarten mixed up with David Rosengarten of www.davidrosengarten.com

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

"i would like to be fucked by you" seems awfully formal. or maybe just a bit wordy for such a circumstance.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, gentlemen, can you see yourself in a situation where you would say to a woman, "Fuck me"? I mean besides when she is doing you with the strap-on?

It reminds me of Wet Hot American Summer where the guy calls out to the girl, "I want you inside me!" when he meant the inverse. or reverse or opposite of whatever.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

LOOK AT ME, NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

"I want to be fucked by you, and nobody else but you...boop boopee doop!"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, Jesse, when she's on top and doing the do.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

You have to figure out who's going to do what, but in hetero sex, unless we're talking strap ons and pegging, it's pretty clear cut who is sticking what into whom. There's no long history of gender inequality in gay sex, either -- I mean prior to the sexual revolution in the 60s, it was quite assumed that women, indeed, were to just lie still and get fucked. Enjoying it was out of the question unless you were a v. bad woman.

xpost to Julia - Yeah, "fuck me!" does the trick pretty well!

I think I should say that I'm talking in terms of describing sex between hetero partners, as opposed to what people would say when they are having sex or getting ready to have sex.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, gentlemen, can you see yourself in a situation where you would say to a woman, "Fuck me"?

Yes, all the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I would certainly say "I want you to fuck me" or simply "fuck me" or "I'm going to fuck you" or "Look, look! I'm fucking you!"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, gentlemen, can you see yourself in a situation where you would say to a woman, "Fuck me"?

Yes! Often, in fact!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

xposting to myself, It's not like I walk seductively up to Jeff and say, "Hey, completely equal life partner, let's respectfully demonstrate our love for each other as humans by engaging in intimate physical contact that neither degrades nor limits us by society's prescribed gender roles."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's more like, "Hey, wanna do it?"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

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― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

And I am thinking of "what people would say when they are having sex or getting ready to have sex."

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Look, look! I'm fucking you!"

i suspect they might just be able to feel it too.

oh, but jenny, that first one is so hottt.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Really? Guys would say to a girl, whether in the heat of the moment or not, and without a gender-bending kinky aspect "Fuck me" ?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yes!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I always say, "I am one lucky camper! You are so naked!"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Jesse: Yes.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

All this talk of fucking. Now I have to go back to work and throw myself into a hot pit of grabby Latinos with complete assurance that I will get no satisfaction? Waaaah.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

There's no (or at least in my experience!) assumption that asking to be fucked means asking to be penetrated - it's more about requesting that the woman take charge of things.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't recall whether I say "fuck me" or not. I suspect not. I say a lot of things, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad that we really unpacked this terminology today.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

REALLY? REALLY REALLY?

See, I can't imagine that at all.

Between men (in my experience) only the bottom says "fuck me." It would just not make sense otherwise. So if someone is sticking his dick in me and he says "Fuck me" that means, "Now it's time for you to put your beautiful and sturdy cock in my butt."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

it's more about requesting that the woman take charge of things.

I'll buy that. In my experience, I think it can also extend to "Be an equal partner with me on this here thing that we're doing!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

OK I can see that.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I would just like to say that I'm going home alone to iron petticoats & peasant blouse and steam kilt and watch Battlestar Galactica DVDs. ALONE. So shut up, all yous.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, don't share this with the diaper guy.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Petticoats, peasant blouse, and a kilt? Are you going to a costume showing of Braveheart?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Have dance gig tomorrow.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

That's a dreamy outfit!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Funny story-- Once I was the bottom with a bf and I was doing some dirty talk, but I got confused and said something along the lines of "Fuck my big hard ass."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Gotta take pictures, Laurel.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

OH I forgot about the saber dancing! Break a leg, Laurel!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, I sent you a very important email wrt the matinee.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

gak! I have to go to work NOOOOOWW

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Will see if anyone brings a camera and try to report back. There are a number of ILXors invited to spectate, so maybe something will turn up.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

See, the great thing about intercourse, to me, compared to other forms of heterosexual sex-play, is the equanimity of it all: it's one of the only times when I don't feel like one person is doing something to the other person, since I know that the physiological pleasure is mutual.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

(I realize that that's kind of weird, given the popularity of the missionary position, for instance, and the McKinnon/Dworkin anti-penetration ideology.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

HUH? Okay, whatever.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'll shut up now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Between men (in my experience) only the bottom says "fuck me."

But in hetero sex it's easier to switch roles without actually, like, switching positions or anything.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: You also realize you're talking to me about intercourse, so my comments bear little weight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

Man, it is totally Friday.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, remember when I tried to start a conversation about the Futureheads?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's not necessarily mutual -- you know that, right?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

There's always the soixante-neuf, J., but I see what you're saying - that the other acts are one person working on the other.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Nick, that totally didn't work. (XXP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, 69 counts, too.

It's not necessarily mutual -- you know that, right?

Enh?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I missed the Futureheads conversation. I like "Man Ray" and "Hounds of Love" and the Max Tundra remix of "Decent Days and Nights" and am curious about the new album.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

That the gal may not 'gasm easily or intensely in that situation is what she's saying (I think).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Or might not be enjoying it at all, if she didn't consent to it happening.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Download "Stick to the End." It was on Fluxblog last week, so I guess it's not up anymore. I remember you talking to me about Dogs Die in Hot Cars, and I feel like those bands are lumped together often, but I vastly prefer the Futureheads - less annoyingly wacky.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh 'manda, I thought we were talking about the act as one of possible things a couple does, not as intercourse as being the most fundamentally equaniminous act.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

That the gal may not 'gasm easily or intensely in that situation is what she's saying (I think).
-- Eazy (chicagoflaneu...), May 19th, 2006 4:10 PM. (Eazy) (later) (link)

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Or might not be enjoying it at all, if she didn't consent to it happening.
-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), May 19th, 2006 4:10 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later) (link)

Well, sure. But let's assume for a second that OF COURSE I'm not talking about rape -- c'mon, people, what do you take me for? And also regardless of whether orgasm is achieved, there is still PLEASURE involved, ne c'est pas? Again, I'm not the world's foremost expert on this issue, considering the number of partners I've had, so feel free to correct me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Does it even matter how circumspect I am at work anymore? I'm not sure so here's a rawther euphemistic version: isn't it the case that some more-than-half number of women don't get off from penetration alone? I don't particularly want to google for the statistics.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

No, I know we weren't talking about rape. I thought it was sort of worth saying though, just because.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Well, that's what they're always saying on Loveline. But "getting off" isn't the only part of sex, and trust me, you won't find a bigger fan of expanding the repertoire beyond intercourse than me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

No. Okay. Nevermind. I'm not talking about this any more on the internet.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

NICK I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIE ROCK ON THE INTERNET

Getting off with Jaymc is okay, though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit, are we on the internet?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Internet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Banana hammock.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, I'll talk about this on the internet!

To Laurel: Yeah, it's something like that. I have tried to find stats on it for Jesse, because three women he knows told him the always (?!?) get off on penetrative sex and I question that very deeply but since three entire women have told Jesse that, he is now an expert on women's orgasms and therefore I need stats to back of the fact that I, unlike every other woman apparently, am not weird in that standard penetrative sex alone is nice enough, but only a small part of what I would consider a "successful" sexual encounter.

To John: "But "getting off" isn't the only part of sex..."

Nooooo... but! For most (not all, but most given normal health, etc.) men, getting off is the main part of sex. And men can get off comparitively easy. Women, on the other hand, generally (except for all the women Jesse knows) require a little more finesse to reach orgasm. So for men it's generally expected, and for women it's like a special treat, if you're lucky and concentrate really hard. And this whole, "Don't worry, it's not all about getting off" is one of those messages that women are fed that basically says, "Don't worry, getting off isn't important FOR YOU, and that's not what sex is all about FOR YOU."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah "concentrate really hard". Has anyone here ever tried FALLING UP?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh let's correct my post a bit shall we???

"told him THEY always"

"stats to back UP the fact"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

XP to me: I just realized that's sort of funny considering my junk email addy. BUT ANYWAY.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

You don't need to correct yourself when you're as badass as you are, Jenny.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

standard penetrative sex alone is nice enough, but only a small part of what I would consider a "successful" sexual encounter.

Without going into it too much, I'm glad that this is the case! I never want intercourse to be the be-all and end-all. This also makes me wish that Jenny had been at the California Clipper a few weeks ago with me and Kenan and Renee.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Or as OTM! (XP again)

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone here ever tried FALLING UP?

It's like flying in HGTTG - you have to fall but forget to land...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

And this whole, "Don't worry, it's not all about getting off" is one of those messages that women are fed that basically says, "Don't worry, getting off isn't important FOR YOU, and that's not what sex is all about FOR YOU."

Okay, but see the thing is, I want women to get off EVENTUALLY. I'm disappointed when they don't. I actually like when they get off more than me. But all I'm saying is that at any given moment, pleasure can be experienced without an orgasm. I mean, you make it sound like you're just lying there unhappy until you come.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm Audi5000, wieners. BAH!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'll try to post back from home, if my roommate hasn't gone to SLEEP already by the time I get there. Sheesh.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

John, xpost to your first post - my point is not to limit sex to penetration, but to emphasize that penetration != orgasm for most women, and that I DO consider orgasm to be a very important part of sex.

And to your second post on preview - of course not (and please don't be wilfully obtuse just for debate's sake here, because that will backfire with me). But after the man "gets off," if the woman doesn't, it's easy to just say, "Oh, orgasm isn't a big deal - it's being close to you that I love!" when, in reality, orgasm IS a big deal. Of course it's not the only deal - but if it really wasn't important, people would just be happy cuddling while watching TV and never fuck.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, sure, I agree with all that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm disappointed when they don't.

But don't act disappointed, otherwise pressure = not sexy!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I posted this to clarify my point:

The whole idea of orgasm not being a big deal did NOT originate in reference to men's orgasm, which is almost guaranteed. It is pretty much about women's orgasm, and dammit, if people know what they are doing (or let women handle the mechanics) women can come almost guaranteed as well. But not if we keep saying things to ourselves and other women like "Oh, getting off is no big deal."

That's what the whole sexual revolution was about. Well, that and control over women's healthcare and overcoming the idea that vaginas are dirty and gross.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan is correct re: pressure to perform, especially if it's like "yeah baby come for me."

HELLO HOW ABOUT FOR MYSELF, THEN???

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

AKA "Treating your bed partner like your own personal peep show"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Let me backtrack: This all started because I said that intercourse was great because it was mutually pleasurable. I didn't necessarily mean mutually orgasmic. But while in the act of intercourse, there are pleasurable sensations occurring each person's special area. Put this is contrast to oral or manual sex, in which the person performing the act may well enjoy it in terms of being happy to please their partner or even relishing the physical contact but not experiencing it as physiological pleasure in the same way as when they are being stimultated themselves.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan is correct re: pressure to perform, especially if it's like "yeah baby come for me."
HELLO HOW ABOUT FOR MYSELF, THEN???

Guys, please don't put words into my mouth, okay? Thank you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to myself again about peep shows: Not that that couldn't be fun sometimes, too.

That's the hard part about talking about sex - it's so subjective and depends so much on circumstances and what feels good and fun at the time, which might not feel good or fun at another time!!! ARGGGG!!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry: "Put this in contrast to..."

And: "stimulated."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm sure you are a considerate and sensitive lover, etc. etc.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's right, bitch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

No offense to Laurel, but I'm just happy that this discussion today hasn't made me bitter and depressed like it probably would have a couple months ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

And that's what's really important here.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

So true. And with that, I'm out for the weekend. Cam and another friend are coming up from Mke tonight and we're going to party it up. BAI NOW.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet! Have a good one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

JUST KIDDING WITH YOU JAYMC

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Okay. :-D

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

My right leg was itchy just now, so I reached down to scratch it, and I'm scratching it, and I'm realizing, "Hmmm, this feels oddly smooth," so I hike up my pant leg and look down and there's like hardly any hair on the right side of my tibia -- or I mean, it's there but it's super-short. What the eff. I have never noticed this before, and it stands in pretty stark contrast to a) the other side of the leg, and b) the same place on my left leg, which is downright blooming with hair.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Did you mistake Nair for shower gel maybe?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

What would I be doing with Nair in the first place?!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

I ask myself that question every day, John. Every day.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

I hear Nair tingles when you put it on your balls. You should try it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

which is downright blooming with hair.

Also, TMI.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

He's talking about his leg! Not like his butthole.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

So you know I THOUGHT I had some big post to post, but I just left my drycleaning on the train and have been hanging around Bergen Street for almost an hour waiting to see if anyone turned it in. So now I have REAL problems and can't even remember where that other train of thought was going.

No offense, JMZ. If you've worked out that much in the last few months, congratulations! I'll clarify my prev post a little by saying that the further I get around this particular block, the more I understand how much of arousal is strictly mental. And if my BRANE is engaged, everything up to and includuing actual orgasm is sometimes amazing. And if my brane ISN'T engaged, I may as well be doing it myself (actually it would be a lot less work). Which turns out to very little to do with the direction the thread has gone! Forget it, I gots ironing to do.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Thanks a lot, Jenny. Now I have John's hairy butthole... oh God. I can't even finish that sentence.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Why would your right tibia know about hair?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

The Egyptians believed that the right tibis was the seat of reason.

&lgt;/Cliff Claven&rgt;

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

(Well, I fucked that up royally.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

The whole idea of orgasm not being a big deal did NOT originate in reference to men's orgasm, which is almost guaranteed.

This expectation has its own kind of pressure...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Forget it, I gots ironing to do.

is that what the kids are calling it now?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

This expectation has its own kind of pressure...

ALSO TRUE.

T minus 10 minutes to partytime.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think it would be a nice change of pace to concentrate on getting off instead of not getting off.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

This expectation has its own kind of pressure...

OTM. I've done this dance before, and it boils down to -- men have moods, too. Sometimes they can't get it up at all, and sometimes they can get it up but not off. Sometimes they have a lot of things on their mind. Sometimes they have unexpressed concerns about the relationship. Men are not just automatic sperm dispensers.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think it would be a nice change of pace to concentrate on getting off instead of not getting off.

Oh, it is nice! I like working for it. Makes it more rewarding.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's something like that. I have tried to find stats on it for Jesse, because three women he knows told him the always (?!?) get off on penetrative sex and I question that very deeply but since three entire women have told Jesse that, he is now an expert on women's orgasms and therefore I need stats to back of the fact that I, unlike every other woman apparently, am not weird in that standard penetrative sex alone is nice enough, but only a small part of what I would consider a "successful" sexual encounter.

Dammit. I think I'm going to have to repeat this entire post b/c I'm coming in way late on this.

I do not profess (nor have I ever professed) to know anything about women's orgasms besides what I hear.

Conventional wisdom says women have a hard time orgasming during intercourse.

I was talking to a couple different women about this. Those women said essentially, "Well, I'm sorry that some women don't orgasm during intercourse, but I do nearly every single time."

When I said that I had the impression that they were exceptional in this right, they expressed to me that they were normal women with competent lovers and that it was pretty normal for women to acheive orgasm during intercourse as a matter or course.

I told Jenny and other women what I heard as an interesting challenge to popular belief/opinion. The women I talked to said that the orgasmy women were unusually orgasmy.

(And Jenny translated this into: "Jesse is now an expert on women's orgasms")

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 20 May 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

I just want to know if someone has been shaving my leg while I'm asleep.

Sorry I didn't make it to the party tonight. :(

I feel really bad, and I totally would've come if I didn't have to be up in less than six hours.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 20 May 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

If you think the shaving of your leg is bad, you should really check out your puss.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 20 May 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

Most Aggressive Female Ever that I Did Not End Up Going Home with - tonight. Just, wow.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 20 May 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

An historic day

Spam (999)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 20 May 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Good lord. WTF happened. I was arguing with this Randian libertarian, who spent all his time defending the indefensible (deregulating energy companies worked out so well, we should do it with health care too!), and I have no idea why I didn't walk away and go, "Oooookay, dude" (answer -- beer), but suddenly it was 2 a.m. and I was the last person leaving Ben's place. And I got lost on my way out.

Oh, beer.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Also, good God what is with Ayn Rand fans? This guy unironically used the word "bootstraps." I wanted to claw his eyes out.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Nick, I'm sorry I usurped your iPod. It's true that people like Prince, but I was being an asshat about it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

I think I also went off about how "Keep On Movin'" by Soul II Soul is the best house single of the 80's. I mean, it is, but still, who cares?

Oh, beer.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Most Aggressive Female Ever that I Did Not End Up Going Home with - tonight. Just, wow.

Dan! Please. You're too nice. Why wouldn't you go home with her? Is this about the Michigan girlfriend?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I do like not having to deal with that, because the answer for me is an easy no. But you -- you have a sort-of girlfriend. You seem to be terribly in love with a woman with whom it's so not gonna happen. I feel for you, I really do.

That said, casual sex can be a very soothing balm.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

No, not really.

OK, yes. But it was also sort of over-the-top, veering crazily towards throwing herself at me. College Dan would have done it, but College Dan is dead now.

xpost: Thanks for the kind words. If you had been there I think you'd be singing a different tune. My boys were totally egging me on early in the evening, but by the end they were kind of like "run!"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

but by the end they were kind of like "run!"

hahaha Oh that girl.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, maybe. There was a lot of leg grinding and shoulder rubbing going on, and even after I told her it so wasn't going to happen it continued. My friend Shawn made up some story about helping someone move in the morning and we got the fuck out of there.

What also really sucks was she had a hott friend that my other friend wanted to talk to, so I sort of played wingman hoping that would happen, but to no avail.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Stop!
Stand there where you are
Before you go too far
Before you make a fool out of love
Stop!
Dont jump before you look
Get hung upon a hook
Before you make a fool out of love

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

(that's the song I was listening to while I read your posts.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

(because I'm gay.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the gay/Erasure link.

Oh, wait a minute... never mind.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the gay/Erasure link.

Did you grow up in a closet?

Oh, wait a minute... never mind.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

True story:

My freshman year at college I lived next door to a horrible born again Christian named Stacey (I think) who loved Erasure until I told her that they were GAY, at which point she disavowed her fandom because Jesus hates homos.

The end.

The Proposition was very good and not as frighteningly violent as I feared it would be. However, it's hard to reconcile this

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/09/30/pearce.jpg

and this

http://www.abc.net.au/wa/stories/Guy_Pearce_m1125079.jpg

with this

http://www.agent007.nu/guy_pearce.jpg

and this

http://www3.sympatico.ca/thetrainingoasis/gpearce.jpg

not to mention this

http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/photosearch/Previews/CIN01106_259.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 20 May 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

i can not express how utterly amazing the country teasers were at the bottle last night. i go to a lot of shows, some are good and some aren't as good but i can't recall the last time i stood agape while listening to a band. i didn't even go to the bar when my beer ran out. i was transfixed. so uncomprehendingly amazing. i imagine this is what the more devout among us get out of organized religion.

in other news, i went to a 4 o'clock bar last night and after last call fell asleep on the bus. i woke up on the southside. i watched the sun come up over the skyline from western and 51st (or thereabouts). i walked home to my apartment in the blinding morning sunlight. all in all it was a pretty interesting evening.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 20 May 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny -- what's hard to reconcile? All those photos of Guy are hott. The second one especially has Eastwood appeal. The first one make you want to take him home and bathe him (after you talk the gun out of his hand), but still.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

His goodlookingness does shine through the dirt and the murder, a little anyway. Guy Pearce seems to have quite a range as an actor. I didn't even realize he was in Priscilla Queen of the Desert until Jesse or Jeff said something on the way back to the car, and it wasn't until I did a GIS that I could really believe Felicia and Charlie Burns were the same actor.

And he was in Ravenous.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 21 May 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ravenous is AWESOME. Begby is in that, too.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 21 May 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Weird. Firefox does not show any of those images, but IE does. I'm starting to get annoyed with Firefox for stupid quirks like this one and its apparent bafflement at QT movies and certain websites.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what I thought of Proposition. I didn't dislike it, but I didn't get it either. Perhaps it is because it was a western (how can a movie be a "western" when it's set in Australia?) I really have a difficult time liking or disliking period pieces.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wah. It's my Saturday night off of work and I have nothing to do. BOOOOOO.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

Saturday night and I'm going to bed early, because last night was enough party for the whole weekend.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

I went to bed at 5 and now I'm pretty awake.

I want chocolate chip cookies. I could make my own, but that would involve going to Jewel for supplies.

Perhaps I'll just get drunk. That sounds easier. But I don't want to be hung over. But really what else is there to do tonight and tomorrow morning?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

What I need is a fucking boyfriend for companionship.

Or a bottle of rum.

A hang-over is a lot less annoying than a human.

Rum is winning.

Oh, and I can buy rum at the store right now.

What I really wish I had is a decent sleeping pill so I could just go back to bed.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Cookies and rum. Yum.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Will you go to prom with me?

Do you know this song? Have you seen this video?

The grandmother is great.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago-philes--

It's the Enclyclopedia of Chicago

http://www.suntimes.com/output/lifestyles/cst-nws-insightbook09.html

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

I WOULD KILL FOR A WHITE HELL OF 7-11 IN MY HOOD!

Broadway "convenience" store:

-Hollering local fuckers

-Legless man who chases me (while I'm on my bike) spare-changing me

-Crazy spare-changer who walks in front of cars on Broadway asking for change. Says he "has a death-wish"

-Guy in store drops 22 oz. beer at my feet. I am wearing flip-flops

-I go outside and I'm greeted by the wino who is vomiting as he walks

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

WHITE HELL.

I meant to say White Hen.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

Although living in a white hell sounds appealing about right now.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

Is that like, Compton?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 21 May 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

See, I would have thought Lincoln Park.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 21 May 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps it is because it was a western (how can a movie be a "western" when it's set in Australia?)

"Western" is a genre that's more about frontiers than the actual US West, although that's where a lot of them are set. Australia had a frontier and a lot of the same issues that the US did during the same time (pesky brown natives, insufficient water, general filth and degerency among the "civilized").

Are you going to yoga with me or what?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 21 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

No yoga.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 21 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I made chicken wings today. Recipe on the blog.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 21 May 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back from Dee-troit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 21 May 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Someone loaned me a computer, which YAY. But now I can't find my router, which, BOOO. I may need to do a little electronics shopping to get this all to work out but within a few days I should be tormenting you all DAY AND NIGHT. Won't you love that? And I can make indiscreet posts whenever the fuck I want to so I hope you're all prepared to face that.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 21 May 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Dan! I ate chicken wings tonight, but I bet they weren't nearly as good as yours (BW3). I also played two gigs under fairly lame (but profitable) circumstances.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yikes.

Tonight I celebrated a co-worker's birthday at Bobby Love's (gay bar) by playing on the winning team of a 4-sided darts competition.

Tonight I narrowly missed my 1 year anniversary of not doing a certain substance.

When I told the provider of my 1-year mark he cut me off, so BOO.

Also, I picked up a silly number of shifts this week in order to be free to be spendy when Courtney comes. I dread the upcoming week.

The end.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

I won a tray on ebay. Do I need a tray? No. I've been bidding on all these old sunburst clocks (probably around 20??) and won none. Instead, I've ended up winning things I wasn't looking for really, including a tray with a deer on it and a pair of birds that hang on the wall. Anyway, apparently this seller doesn't take paypal, just personal check. What info should I put on the check? I put my home number. It's a bad idea to put my SS# on there, right?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you put yr soc on a check, anyway? Am I missing something?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's a bad idea to put my SS# on there, right?

hmmmm, yes i would say providing your checking account number, routing number, and social securtiy number to a total stranger would constitute a poor idea.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

PS: Sunburst clocks sound really nice, I'm sorry you didn't win any.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Um, don't people normally put their SS numbers on their checks? I guess that's only when writing one to a loan company, which is where I normally send all my money?

I just wanted to make sure her bank would have enough info to process it. Thanks.

I was THIS CLOSE to winning an awesome clock this weekend, but in the last 15 seconds someone sniped it.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

the only thing i ever wrote on a check to a loan company was my account with the said loan company. i guard my ssn pretty carefully.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Otto: new country teasers album!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

you just can't know how much i enjoyed the teasers friday night. nights like that are exactly why i go to shows, you never know when someone is going to come out of left field and completely rearrange your idea of great music.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard of putting your SS on a check, but I don't ever do it. Just my phone number and address.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

All the information banks need to process a check is already ON the check! Utility companies might require an account number for their convenience in processing payments, or grocery stores might want a driver's license # for some kind of ID security or whatever, but all those things are at the recipient's discretion. If you're sending this check to a private individual I don't think you want to give them any more info than you absolutely have to!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, what do they sound like?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, what do they sound like?

not easy to pigeonhole. it's equal parts noise, weird punk, country (central texas rather than nashville), psyche, and .... not sure. they truly defied classification friday. from one song to the next you were as likely to hear a bludgeoning sonic attack that could have come from psychocandy (w/drummer, sans drum machine) or a twangy lament that would put waylong jennings to shame. follow that up with early flaming lips style weirdness and my head was spinning. so f'ing good.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

That does sound pretty good!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

waylong jennings
Porn name?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

ben sings with this real nasal twang that sounds like he's from the texas panhandle and when i talked to him after the set he had a heavy scots brogue that i couldn't understand what he was saying.

as far as just the music goes, best show i've seen in ages. i've had more fun at other shows but if you're talking just about the songs this was the show of the year for me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

waylong jennings
Porn name?

yes. hope he doesn't contract hepatits.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

So I found out this morning that much of Blood Meridian is based on actual events, which is a pretty sobering thought, given how awesomely terrible those actual events actually were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Holden
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=42196
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/HNS/Scalpin/heads.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Joel_Glanton
http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/GG/fgl2.html

Anyway, somebody else read this book so we can talk about it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to read that book. I'm in the market for a new novel.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I reverted to reading Low Life again (Luc Sante) because I was in the mood for some turn-of-the-century filth. But what I really want is a hefty novel.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man. Today is showing signs of being ugly.

Jenny, I picked up a Wednesday night shift. This will be a Week Without Yoga.

Are you going to the WC?

Why am I not just emailing you this?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Have we set any records yet for number of posts on one thread? we're at 1470 or something.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

No way -- I think the Glasgow thread has us beat by like 5,000 or something.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

That Glasgow thread had/has thousands of posts.

It sounds like I wouldn't hate the Country Teasers, I'd like to hear their record.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I enjoyed Low Life, Amanda! It seems everyone had heard of it except me until Ben pointed it out, and now I see it discussed everywhere. I should look up more of L.S., I like his style -- also read an essay of his about his belief, when he was younger, that his life parallelled that of Rimbaud. Do I need to say it was really very funny?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, Amanda, I will loan it to you!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Have we set a Chicago record?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

We'll now get anyone googling "rachel ray orgasms", anyway.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, how much do you guys usually get for selling used cds? I know Nick does it a lot.

I took about $120 + worth of cds to a record store the other day and got $20 for everything. I didn't expect much, but still, capitalism is depressing. I think the fact that I bought most of those records at that very store made it worse.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Not as gross as "golden shower dominatrix" and [insert Food Netwrok chef] - but that's on this page too!

The googlability thing is the reason I like the shorter threads.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, somebody else read this book so we can talk about it.

Best Work of Fiction of the Past 25 Years

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

It depends on the CDs - whether the store thinks they can sell them, whether they have a lot of that particular CD alread in the used bins, what kind of shape they are in, etc.

Jeff and I have had much better luck selling old CDs individually on half.com or maybe Amazon, I don't know. I always think of used CD buyers the same way I think of school text book buyers - they are going to screw you.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Gah, way too much Don DeLillo on that list!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, Jesse, I don't think this is a record for the Chicago thread -- remember when we tried to start a new one and then JW hijacked it, so we all just went back to the old one for a while? That thread topped off at 2200 or so.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

I love DeLillo, and those are, coincidentally, my three favorite books by him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Pleasantly surprised that Underworld is held in such high esteem.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

They were cool cds! Very fucking hip shit, that I haven't listened to for a year or two.

Maybe I should try that ridiculous "we'll sell your stuff on ebay for you!" store down the block, I've been meaning to get rid of a bass drum that way anyway. Or just sell them for $5 apiece on the office classifieds.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Or just list them on half.com...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Would half.com mean packing things up myself and going down to the post office, after procrastinating for weeks? Because that's what I'm trying to avoid.

I read White Noise a few years ago, liked it a lot (more than most people apparently), and felt no desire to read more deLillo.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

I've only read White Noise, I think, and I posted a long time ago (maybe on ILB) about it. But honestly I'm probably a terrible Philistine (and also really lazy) because I've never liked Updike, I barely made it through WN, I meant to read Roth last summer but never got around to it, etc etc. I have problems with the white male academic thing in a lot of ways. Said with a sheepish frowny face because I hardly know anything about the authors individually or from a critical point of view but something about them all sticks in my craw.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

With Amazon, you send your CDs to them and they re-sell them, right, Jenny, or is it like eBay?

Did you play a show in Detroit, J.?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm reading Blindness right now, speaking of "white" books.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I just found a half-eaten cookie in my shirt pocket.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

my choice for best (or at least favorite as i'm really not qualified to say what's best) fiction of the past 25 years is this.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have problems with the white male academic thing in a lot of ways. Said with a sheepish frowny face because I hardly know anything about the authors individually or from a critical point of view but something about them all sticks in my craw.
ME TOO. See: my incessant omplaining about Richard Yates.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Nick just bought Blood Meridian this weekend and started reading it.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

omplaining = one step beyond complaining

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have problems with the white male academic thing in a lot of ways.

ME TOO, too. Which is my main beef with Don DeLillo, although after two years of law school I'm getting used to it, so maybe I will read White Noise again. I tried to read The Plot Against America and didn't really care for it, either, but I'm willing to try other books by Philip Roth.

I just found a half-eaten cookie in my shirt pocket.

That's hilarious.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and yes, half.com is where you have to pack up the CDs yourself and I totally can identify with not wanting to do that. Jeff is willing to take that extra step, but I don't know that I would be.

Amazon works like half.com. You send the stuff directly to the buyer. Or at least that's how it worked the summer before we moved to Chicago when I sold a shit ton of books, CDs, and DVDs that way.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

because I've never liked Updike, I barely made it through WN, I meant to read Roth last summer but never got around to it, etc etc. I have problems with the white male academic thing in a lot of ways.

I've still never read Philip Roth or Saul Bellow. I do like Updike quite a bit, though, ever since reading the Rabbit tetralogy four summers ago. David Foster Wallace mentions in Consider the Lobster how he's noticed that women -- particularly under the age of 40 -- are really virulent about hating Updike.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

So my past post re White Noise was actually abt The Verificationist by Antrim, but here's what it said:

"... I'm increasingly irritated by the whole incestuous circle of academics attacking each other and/or each other's work and sleeping with each other/'s wives and over-sensitive middle-aged men having crises of wondering where it all went wrong with their marriages and looking for consolation from rosy-cheeked young women or just women who represent something without being PEOPLE and ARRGH. This is overcoming any appeal the writing or ideas might have had, although in the beginning I was still amused enough to keep going. Am I just inordinately bothered or is there a rawther large body of work that uses this setting/premise and WHY?!?

I remember now that the same issue that nagged me about White Noise although a) it was warmer and less, erm, self-consumed? and b) Ben assures me that it was ground-breaking, basically the first of its kind and should get a bye for originality plus the writing is genius. He may be right but I think I'll pass on anything further in this vein."

I worry that I'm falling into some kind of identity-readership here but I can't help it if I'm unsophisticated, it IRRITATES ME.

XP: Shit, I have to read some Bellow before June 7 for my reading group. Bad bad bad.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

(My enjoyment of Updike a combination of the fact that I think his writing really shimmers -- which is really key for me -- and that he's so concerned with ordinary people: their relationships to each other and to the culture that surrounds them. His most recent New Yorker story is a gem as far as this goes.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't make you unsophisticated, Laurel! For an antidote, read Paula Fox. She's writing within the same milieu but her books don't infuriate me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel! Thank you, that is really well put. I have made very similar statements about the same authors a number of times and was beginning to think that I was just an idiot for not "getting" what was so great about them. But it just gets tiresome to read about how tragic these white dudes are, and it gets very tiresome to read about women who only exist in relation to the male characters and never as actual characters themselves.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I've never read any Updike. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ben assures me that it was ground-breaking, basically the first of its kind and should get a bye for originality

I don't know what this means. It's not like DeLillo invented postmodernism. I do think one thing that really appealed to me about DeLillo when I first read him is that a lot of it is cultural criticism disguised as fiction -- but because of that, when DeLillo fails, it can be truly spectacular: everything becomes woodenly symbolic. I mean, it's true that DeLillo's characters are almost always mouthpieces, but when he's good, the brilliant poetry in his prose overshadows that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, you'd have to ask Ben. *cue eye roll* I've forgotten exactly what that conversation was about and he doesn't return my emails these days.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have decided I am going to the library at lunch.

I am going to get:

Suttree by Cormac McCarthy
The Adventures of Augie March by Saul Bellow
and something by that Marilynne Robinson person on the Best American Fiction list.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of it is cultural criticism disguised as fiction
Isn't all fiction like this though, even novels-of-manners, etc? Dickens?

It's just difficult to read these dudes as a female. That's why I liked the character of Renee in Strong Motion -- she seemed more like a REAL PERSON and not a puppet. For some reason she really stuck with me.

Have you read Paula Fox, Jenny? Has anyone? SHE RULES.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I have to admit I'm a total sucker for the midlife-crisis novels and always have been (don't know why exactly, although I tried to explore this in my senior thesis) -- although it's not so much about it being male-centric for me. I did like Paula Fox's Desperate Characters, I think it was called?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Strong Motion = Franzen?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yup -- that was a good one. I like Poor George, The Widow's Children and The Western Coast a lot too. Really, I like all of her books. Also she is Courtney Love's biological GRANDMOTHER. That's some weird shit.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. (XP)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think I hate midlife-crisis stories. I've yet to read one that didn't make the protagonist look like a complete insecure asshole with delusions of importance about professional/artistic standing and career gains. There may be lots of reasons for this, granted, but my planner is still far too full to make time for that kind of thing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

WORD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

For a while I kept reading them, going back for more punishment until I realized I HATE THIS KIND OF BOOK. The only one I've liked I liked after I finished reading it, but hated it while I was reading it -- Something Happened by Joseph Heller. It was sort of funny too, so that helped.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've not read Paula Fox. I shall add her to my library list.

John, it makes sense to me that you like mid-life crisis novels - sometimes it seems like you are practicing for your very own midlife crisis with some of the smaller issues we discuss.

xpost: Laurel, are you like, absorbing my brain waves and transcribing them onto the internet or what? It's kind of eerie... and very comforting.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't all fiction like this though, even novels-of-manners, etc? Dickens?

I don't know. If it were, you wouldn't have authors like Tom Wolfe and Jonathan Franzen periodically worrying about the sad state of the "social novel" in the pages of Harper's and The Atlantic.

Incidentally, Franzen is partially responsible for the flurry of interest in Fox lately, since he frequently talks about her as an inspiration and has written about her -- I don't know that I'd have heard about her otherwise. (Except maybe when the Courtney Love thing was revealed.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Well, someone had to talk about her since everyone ignored her for 30 years. I'm glad!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hrm, John, that might have come across meaner than I meant it to sound. I'm sorry, I didn't intend to be mean at all, but was actually thinking before you posted your comment that there might be a common ground of self-introspection between you and these types of books.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

No, I can totally see that, Jenny!

Part of why I like mid-life crisis novels, too, is that I'm concerned with realism and the ordinary and the ability to capture that in fiction (also cf. R. Carver): I wonder if perhaps I fetishize that, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

By "there may be lots of reasons" I mean that may be the DEFINITION of a mid-life crisis, at least as experienced by modern American men (I haven't really investigated from a sociological point of view -- although the maker of my favorite issue film, "War Zone", talked about doing a project about that stuff, I'm not sure she ever did it). And I'm willing to admit that there are different pressures for them in terms of earning prowess and material success etc so I don't meant to dismiss out of hand. But I still can't read about it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Paula Fox looks interesting.

Someone should respond to my 'writers writing about writers writing' thread on ILB.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, what Paula Fox book should I get?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

And why I am so hungry at 11 am????

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

1. Desperate Characters
if that's not there get
2. Widow's Children or Poor George

A Servant's Tale and The Western Coast are a little less rich-people and more regular-people, but they're also more, I dunno, starry-eyed. I am always hungry at 11am.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

And why I am so hungry at 11 am????

dunno but i am likewise famished.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I probably shouldn't get more books until I finish Sister Carrie, which I am 3/4 of the way through and keep putting down to read other books, but I know how it ends and I feel very comforted when I have a pile of library books waiting in the wings so I'm going to do it anyway.

If I eat lunch now, I will be a worthless shaking mass of low blood sugar by four this afternoon. I think I'd better just drink more coffee.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Squid and The Whale and Sideways both nailed the particular kind of novelist Laurel's describing. The most memorable parts of Updike for me are the descriptions - not the characters as much as the surface details, which can be pretty stunning.

On the other hand, the major guys in the generation after Updike, etc. - like Paul Auster and Nicholson Baker (and Eggers, with that international-roadtrip novel) - found new ways to be literary, somewhat self-involved but intensely observational novelists.

M. Robinson's essays are worth reading, too. She's an incredibly clear writer, sentence by sentence and paragraph by paragraph.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hungry too. I would normally wait an hour, but I have meetings from 12:00 - 4:00, and there might be free popcorn there, but that's not really a lunch, is it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

who wants to clean my apartment and possibly do some laundry for me while i'm at work tomorrow? because i've got guests coming on wednesday and my place is a wreck. i'm willing to pay almost twenty five american dollars.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh OH! Amanda, this is the same Paula Fox who is also a YA author, right?? Because her Slave Dancer and that cat book are both pillars of the genre, basically. I'd be happy to hit up her adult stuff.

XP: Yeah, I also refuse to see "Sideways". :) I should try Auster, though, I know that and have just been lazy.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

No. I'd eat now, or I would end up doodling cheeseburgers instead of paying attention to the meeting.

Heh, Eric and I were talking about Sideways this weekend, and either Jeff or Jesse was pretty certain I would hate it. I agreed to see it though, mostly because Eric said he would be interested in what I thought and that appeals to my ego. ;)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I almost read Sister Carrie! I have it sitting in the pile waiting for me to be in the mood.

Laurel, YES AND YES! I will send you something for your BIRTHDAY.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, THAT Paula Fox!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think they were reading Sister Carrie in the class I sat in on at Macalester as a prospective.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, who am I kidding? I never paid attention in meetings no matter what.

I really like Sister Carrie. I think Dreiser does a good job painting Carrie as a real person without making judgments on her qualities. And it's definitely period, but I know people like her now, and that's pretty neat. Also, I like turn-of-the-century Chicago novels a lot.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Sideways and The Squid and the Whale are both films that totally didn't surprise me that I liked. Also: The Ice Storm.

Also, I like turn-of-the-century Chicago novels a lot.

This is what my dad wrote his dissertation on.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I read the shit out of Sister Carrie for American Literature 2. The whole class was structured around early 20th-century "working class" novels. We also read Them and a book whose name escapes me that was about building skyscrapers in the 30s. Also, the teacher of the class was about 90 years old, addressed everyone as "Mr." or "Ms.," and required you to stand up while talking in class.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Also it's fascinating to see how people moved withing a more rigid moral framework. It's not so much that people acted differently because it was unacceptable for unmarried people to live together or for women to work*, it's just that people were quieter about what they did.

*This is also fascinating, and again, Dreiser manages to present a situation without moralizing. Women could work, or they could be married, but not both and it created an extremely limiting world. Carrie's decision to accept an invitation to be a kept woman rather than work in a factor just makes sense, given the choices available to her at the time.

xpost: What books did he write about, John?

Also, American Beauty strikes me as a pretty solid white dude mid-life crisis contender.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

addressed everyone as "Mr." or "Ms.," and required you to stand up while talking in class.

This is not unlike law school.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Reading a synopsis of Desperate Characters a little bit ago, I was totally thinking of The Ice Storm.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Title: The image of the artist in Chicago fiction following the World's Columbian Exposition /
Author(s): C*********, M****** J.
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Responsibility: M****** J. C*********
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― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Guys reading midlife-crisis-guy novels might have more patience for (and identification with) the self-loathing that author intentionally puts in there -- just as a show like Sex In The City isn't unaware of its own shallow and dubious values.

That's fertile ground for fiction, whether it's Updike or Lorrie Moore or whoever -- writing about ourselves (not other people) at our worst. (Though American Beauty is one of my least favrorite movies ever - caricature of midlife crisis.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

What books did he write about, John?

Not sure, actually. Although I have a copy in my apartment for some reason -- I think my brother was using it as research.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm still embarrassed I like American Beauty so much when I first saw it -- but I suspect it had something to do with it pushing all my midlife-crisis buttons.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Okay dudes, I'm out to lunch then meetings, have a nice mid-afternoon crisis.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I also love Chicago turn-of-the-century novels. I'll have to check out Sister Carrie.

Question. Why are there so many more male-focused midlife-crisis movies than female? Oh my god! I'm in my mid-forties, weighed down by kids and a mortgage and an old husband!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Wonder Boys - as a movie, anyway (I didn't read the novel) - was a good midlife-crisis movie, maybe because he and Katie Holmes never got together.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

I was just thinking about this in the bathroom (THERE JOHN ARE YOU HAPPY I THINK ABOUT YOU WHILE I PEE) and maybe all these little mini-crises are like releasing the steam from a boiler. Like if you don't do this now, your real midlife crisis is going to make Updike's Rabbit trilogy look like Beverly Cleary's Ramona books. Or maybe you're reassuring yourself that you can get through a truly difficult time by making a big deal out of going to the eye doctor - clearly if you can best that obstacle, you can handle something more difficult that comes your way.

Eric, I like your explanation a lot. That is very thoughtful.

Sarah, I will loan you my copy when I'm finished! I think you'll like it a lot.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm... femal mid-life crises books...

Fear of Flying? The Hours?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite Chicago turn-of-the-century novel:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0375404538.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Note: I LOVED the Hours. Loved. I identified so hard with the woman who checked into a hotel for the afternoon just so she could read.

xpost - oof. I did not like JC as much as I had hoped I would.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, The Hours is a good example of a female-centric midlife-crisis novel -- esp. the character of Laura Brown (the one you just named). (I think I am maybe feeling defensive about reading books about dudes.) (Of course, it was written by a dude, and my dad's namesake at that.)

I suspect at least one of Joyce Carol Oates's zillion books is about a midlife crisis.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oates focuses mostly on middle-aged guys and teenage gals (more apart than together).

Lorrie Moore's definitely in the tradition of writing about the self-absorbed midlife crisis in ways that are funny and entertaining (and universal?) enough that it's not annoying.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Female midlife-crisis books are also pretty tiresome, though. Or ones in a certain vein are -- I didn't get ANYWHERE with FoF.

Re both genders' versions: I wonder if my antipathy comes from the fact that the characters seem to have lost touch with something VITAL, everything they're concerned with feels, to me, socially manufactured and false and papery/dry/withered/smothering. It makes me want to claw my way through to something more...I dunno, I was gonna say "human" but maybe the point is that it's VERY human to surround self with layers of wrapping paper/dissertation pages? This is the most unconsidered thing, I'm not even sure where it's going so don't hold me to it if I have to reconsider later on, but ARGH where has all the color & moisture gone from these people's stories???

That might be why I'm a sucker for stupid shit like Barbara Kingsolver and Earth Motherly stuff. Or maybe I'm just a dirty hippie at heart.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Your father has the same name as my stepbrother, then.

Well, I was just thinking about my heavy identification with the characters in the Hours and the sort of sad, wistful, melancholy, maybe-i'll-put-rocks-in-my-pockets-and-walk-into-the-lake and yet not altogether unpleasant way it made me feel and wondering if your "dude books" engender similar feelings in you.

The big differences between Laura Brown and other male characters that I see are one, Laura Brown was clinically depressed and undiagnosed (like VW, making it an important component of her third of the story), and two, (married, especially) women in the fifties were actually, intentionally, systematically denied freedom and self-actualization by men and society whereas I feel like a lot of the male characters in similar books had access to freedom and self-actualization (by virtue of their white-middle-class-maleness), but chose a different path and are now sad about it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but The Awakening is kinda lame.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I loved FoF but I also love smut, so I suspect I liked it for that reason. (I even read not one but TWO of the sequels!) I also enjoy trash like J. Suzann, so don't listen to me. NOT ASHAMED though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I don't get irritated by privileged white men who have problems because I know that it happens and that their privilege doesn't absolve them from emotional instability.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if my antipathy comes from the fact that the characters seem to have lost touch with something VITAL, everything they're concerned with feels, to me, socially manufactured and false and papery/dry/withered/smothering.

MORE AGREEANCE. That makes so much sense to me. I think Fear of Flying was an important book, and I found it interesting from a feminist history perspective, but ultimately it didn't do much for me. The follow-up rang even more hollow.

I tend to reach for books about the dark nature of humanity, or popular histories as an andedote. I think my obsessions with certain lines of history began with a desire to find some sort of foundation for it all. And all that dark-sided stuff is neat because when faced with something truly terrible, humans get down to what's really important to them.

Actually, I think there's a line that says something like that in Blood Meridian. The Judge says something about their experiences in the desert stripping away the unimportant and someone comes back by pointing out that there's not much, important or no, to strip away.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Surfacing by Margaret Atwood would be a good contender, too. I loved that book. I read and recall liking The Awakening but I can barely remember what it was about.

And while I furiously threw Valley of the Dolls across the room in a rage at the end, I enjoyed it immensely. Smut definitely has its place.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Female mid-life crisis themes seem more depressing and helpless. The men are more active, buying sports cars and hitting on the young ladies. This is a complete generalization of course. I guess I'm just figuring out what Jenny just said.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I was reminded of The Awakening because of your walk-out-into-the-lake comment (although it's the ocean in that book, I think) -- basically late 19th C. woman who yearns for independence but is confined by social structures. There's a whole history of female literary characters like this, especially at that time -- some of whom become the proverbial "madwoman in the attic" (cf. The Yellow Wallpaper).

The antipathy toward the midlife-crisis scenario, however, is starting to remind me of a friend's problem with Lost in Translation (which I liked a lot), which was essentially, "What's your problem? Shake out of it already!" I.e., he couldn't relate to characters who are suffering from anomie because he was like, "You're in Japan! There are so many things to do!" Which struck me as a pretty unsympathetic reading.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

(Oh Jay, I'm so sorry but I think you're on to something -- I didn't like LiT, either!!)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm realizing that part of what I meant by fetishization earlier is that I grew up in a pretty happy, normal family and that I think I liked reading about collapsing marriages and things like that because it seemed simultaneously alien to my experience and also more real in a way: people going through actual emotional turmoil.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Sarah: Well, I think female mid-life crisis books (or the one's named in the thread so far) are less about a sudden realization at 40 that they are "weighed down by kids and a mortgage and an old husband" like you said, and more about a sudden realization that the women are deeply unhappy because, had society not shoved them into the wifemotherhomemaker role, they would have done something totally different. So it becomes not just about their own emotional instability, but about fighting their way out from under history and social convention and all sorts of other, larger outside things.

Which is not to say that, 1) there aren't plenty of far more shallow female mid-life crises books (the wife in American Beauty had a little breakdown that would fit the bill, if I recall correctly) that I just don't know about, and 2) the books I have mentioned don't focus largely (even exclusively) on the experiences of white, middle class women.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Virginia Woolf killed herself by filling her pockets with rocks and walking into a river.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I just remembered that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's possible that I simply don't care about the emotional turmoil of middle aged men. This could make me unsympathetic, or maybe something worse, like insensitive, but I feel like that ground has been covered and if I'm going to read about suffering, I'm interested in some actual, bona-fide suffering of a more significant magnitude.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Like, the least they could do is be terminally ill. WHY YOU SO UNHAPPY MIDDLE AGED MAN?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, larger issue feminist critical theory blather aside, Amanda has it for me, too.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, can I interject something else that's all gender-studies related but not about literature but still pissing me off today?

Amanda, I'm going to come over there and sit next to you because I LIKE YOU.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

INTERJECT!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Bridges of Madison County - that's female midlife crisis story there.

The midlife-crisistheme seems American across gender and class lines, having to do with the freedom to choose a spouse and an occupation (instead of having an arranged marriage and taking over the family business) -- even the midcentury housewives chose their husbands, and so at some point question the choice they made (as most of us would from time to time if we married at 20 yrs old).

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry for the constant typos/grammar-os)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

When I was 14, I wrote a first-person short story in which the wife of the protagonist (named John, even) leaves him at the end, at which point you realize how self-absorbed and oblivious he's been.

In a weird way, I think I romanticized this kind of thing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Grammar-os by Chef Boyardee!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I LIKE YOU.
((( :) ))))Get over here!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

When I was 16, I wrote a play about a pharmacist gal having a fling and pining away for the guy who had gotten away a few years earlier (or maybe he died?).

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

(Btw, John was the name of the protagonist, not the name of the protagonist's wife.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

See, when I was 12 I wrote a story about a silkworm named Mortimer Seda who rode a Greyhound bus to Michigan from Mexico.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Eric -- did we ever talk about having a reading of the plays we wrote when we were teenagers? I think that would be hilarious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

so i'm guessing no one wants to clean my place? i can up the offer to $25 american and beer if it will help.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

So on my way to train this morning, some guy leaned way in as I passed and said something like "sexysexysexysexy" and was weird. I flipped him off without looking back and he got really mad and vulgar and told me to stick that finger up my ass and kept yelling "bitch" most of my way down the block, which I pretty much expected and was prepared for but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ON FRANKLIN STREET this is why I have FANTASIES OF SUPERHERODOM. I want to take every one of these people and pin them to a wall by their NECKS until they get the idea that other human beings don't belong to them to abuse in public. Otto, I'll clean yr apt if you'll walk me to the train on mornings when I just don't feel like dealing with it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I like the idea, John, if we can read Amanda's story too.

Craiglist, Kevin.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I can't even clean my place! xposts

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, anyone would be allowed to read things they wrote before they could vote.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

That sucks, Laurel. Ugh.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Craiglist, Kevin.

i'm not letting strangers into my apartment.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Also, when I was in 3rd grade I wrote and illustrated a story about my dad and I driving through the jungle and being stopped by an Amazon in full Spartan regalia, who commanded him to leave their territory but gave me the option of staying to join their ranks. Of course I said yes and there was a banquet in my honor and that was that. LATERZ, DAD.

I'm told my teacher called home to ask if there were any family issues she should know about and my mother said, "nope, that's our girl" in a gung-ho sort of way. My mom is a TREAT.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Can we include the story I wrote when I was 12 of the possessed washing machine that rampaged my neighborhood, eating people's clothes and regurgitating their mutilated corpses?

Oh Laurel, I can so sympathize with you. I have been in that position and it feels so bad.

Kevin, I can give you the email of the lady who cleans our apartment.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

I like how all of our young stories reflect who we became as adults.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

She'll charge more than $25, though.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

screw it, my friends are flying eight and half hours non-stop they'll be glad just to have a place to crash. i'll clean the bathroom and they'll have to deal with the overall shambles of the place.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I like how all of our young stories reflect who we became as adults.

Totally, you're more of a possessed washing machine than anyone else I know!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

they'll have to deal with the overall shambles of the place

You can at least hang up your OshKosh B'Goshes.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, do you know about this grou; http://www.streetharassmentproject.org/?

I learned about them when I went to a Street Harassment workshop given by the Rogers Park Young Women's Action Team - http://www.newstips.org/interior.php?section=Newstips&main_id=322. They are an incredible bunch of young women.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I got a flyer from them recently.

(Also - my story was HORRIBLE and lifted wholesale from Simon and Garfunkel, so I don't know that I would read it even if I knew where it was.)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Mortimer said, "Be careful -- his bow-tie is really a camera!"

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

My play came out after listening to a bunch of Suzanne Vega, I think.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

As he drifted off to sleep, Mortimer thought to himself that Michigan seemed like a dream to him now that he had been on the road for so long.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

If RYWAT gives another workshop, Amanda, I'll totally go with you. When one of the members started the meeting, I thought she was the adult sponsor of the group. Then she said she was in HIGH SCHOOL and I was totally amazed. I would have given a lot for a teaspoon of her confidence and poise when I was in high school. Also, just a willingness to work together to address a problem at an age that is generally portrayed as being one for selfish bratiness was really awesome to behold.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that music ever inspired me in that way. I've been reading Frank Kogan's book of collected writings, Real Punks Don't Wear Black, and he includes these long almost-"Wasteland"-like poems he wrote at the age of 17 that are littered with Jefferson Airplane and Bob Dylan lyrics.

(Actually, I do remember writing a series of poems while listening to the Dirty Dozen Brass Band, in the hopes that the music would inspire me, but that was more of a writing exercise, since I had no actual emotional connection to the CD, which I had just checked out of the library the week before.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Also, at the street harassment workshop I attended they recommended responding to harassing comments with a deadpan, calm, "Don't harass women" or "Don't -do whatever it is you're doing-; that's harassment."

I've found that it feels more natural for me to say, "Don't speak to me that way," but doing so still scares the shit out of me. The worst WORST was on a super crowded late-night red line train. I had to squeeze past a bunch of drunk dudes to get into the doors, and one guy took it upon himself to have a squeeze of me as I went past. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, because it was a really crowded train, and went on to stand the middle of the aisle, at which point he started in with the "Hey glasses! Hey pretty!" bullshit. I said, "Don't speak to me like that." And he said, "Come on pretty, what's wrong blah blah blah" and I repeated myself, at which point he turned to his friends and they spent the next three stops talking about what a fucking bitch/dyke I was, while I pretended to read a book. The scariest part was that they were blocking the doors behind me and there was no way to get to the doors in front of me so I had no idea how I was going to get off without walking through them again, or if they would follow me off the train or what. They got off at Addison, though, thank god, and I rode on northward, quite rattled.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

long almost-"Wasteland"-like poems

Hehe! I wrote one of those when I was 19 or so about Newark, Delaware or all things! It open with an invocation and ended with a benediction and everything.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

PUNCH HIM IN THE SOLAR PLEXUS xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

it took mortimer four days to hitch hike from saginaw...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Someone http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/46433773/6209356 is on a flight to Beijing right now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that saying "Don't harrass women" is going to do anything but garner a bunch of laffs from the sort of people who do that kind of thing. I usually glare (with daggers) or tell them to can it. It doesn't happen to me much though.

Mortimer DID go to Saginaw! HOW DID YOU KNOW?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Saginasty

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Since that dude was in a group, I have a feeling that punching him would have led to my own swift asskicking, or worse. I do often wonder if anybody on that train would have come to my aid if I'd made a bigger stink about the whole thing. Maybe it's cynicism, but I think I would have been very alone had I said, "Listen, buddy, you can't grab my ass and then talk shit to me and get away with it" and called the conductor. So I just fumed and felt angry and helpless intead. Yay!

Especially when I'm on the train, I try to be really aware of what's going on around me and I have taken a solemn vow to myself that if I ever see a woman being harassed, I'll come to her aid, even if it's just in a small way, like moving to sit closer to her so that she knows she's got back up if something dreadful should happen. I have a feeling that would deter any harassers, to an extent anyway.

WOW Kesley is on the way to China! This is very exciting!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Saginaw! Saginaw! Industry! Industry!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I was only partly serious, partly trying to make a Wolfe reference/joke from earlier.

If I ever, evereverevereverevereverevereverever see something like that going down on a train, bus, whatever, there will be some solar plexii getting punched.

xpost: I bet he's never even been to Saginaw. That record really bugs me now.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

OK, maybe I won't resort to violence that fast, but man, dudes are dicks.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Performance artist Holly Hughes (who once directed me in a collaborative theatre production, when she was a visiting prof at K) is from Saginaw.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I used to get scared of it, but except in very threatening circs, I'll usually say something now. It probably WOULD be more fruitful to engage aggressors somehow rather than just telling them to fuck off, but I often don't have time and quite frankly resent the burden of making their dickishness clear.

Some older man tried to open a gate for me on Sat night when I got my bike out -- I told him not to bother, than had to physically block his way and say "no THANK YOU, sir, PLEASE leave me alone" and he was all "okay OKAY, jeez. Just trying to be a gentleman" and then made a joke about did/could I deliver myself to Cuba? to which I said, "that wasn't very gentlemanly, was it?" and left. It made me feel better, at least.

Haha one of my colleagues suggested today that I should have pointed out there's a trade embargo.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Should I go see humorist Stephen Colbert give the commencement address at Kr's alma mater in a couple weeks?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

and then made a joke about did/could I deliver myself to Cuba?

I don't understand this. Why Cuba?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

no, nothing is worth a trip to galesburg john.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Because in commie countries the women are strong and don't need men to open gates for them, as is commonplace in 'Merica.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't really mean it! Come baaaack!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

B-b-but Colbert! At the site of one of the Lincoln-Douglas debates!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, because he was Cuban.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

From a friend's LJ:

Retain Sales Lady: Can I help you?

Me (At a clothing store somewhere in Soho looking at a Cuban soccer jersey): No no, just looking around.

Sales Lady: What team are you looking for?

Me: Cuba.

Sales Lady: (Very serious tone in her voice): Are you Cuban?

Me: (Pondering that question for about a minute): ...No.

Sales Lady hands me a very icy look before sharply turning around, quickly walking away.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

When I was little (how little? can't remember) I wrote a short story about an underwater village. I also wrote a story called Cattails that I sent to Disney in hopes of getting it made into a real cartoon movie. I even drew pictures! I don't think I have any of that any more. I could, however, read from one of my many diaries. They entertain me to no end (ha ha, just me).

John, I guess I just got my fill of the wonders of middle age crises and divorce early on in life, so I can't imagine romantisizing them. It's just all so real and painful to me.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Things that rock about working where I work:

1. The library is short walking distance away.
2. Amanda works across the street.
2. Amanda met me on the corner and we walked to the library together!

Yay! Also, all the books I wanted were in and on the shelf, and that like never happens. Then I got a Tootsie Roll from the office manager. Could my day get any better?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I could, however, read from one of my many diaries. They entertain me to no end (ha ha, just me).

this girl i was dating this winter found one of her diaries from middle school when she was home for x-mas. she read parts of it to me while we were lying in bed after watching movies, it was kind of sweet in a totally clulessly innocent way.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

My parents cleaned out their attic and presented me with boxes and boxes of my old crap when I went to visit last September, including some old diaries and SWEET JAYSUS I was a v. annoying preteen. It was all boys this and boys that and... that's it.

I would give a lot to be able to visit myself as a youngster and whisper a few things in mine own sweet ears.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, most of the stuff i heard was pretty much about dudes. apparently she was the proverbial ugly duckling who grew into the beautiful swan. i can all but guarantee that those dudes, if straight, are kicking themselves.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I would give a lot to be able to visit myself as a youngster and whisper a few things in mine own sweet ears.

Whenever people say things like this, I get hung up on the time-traveling logic of it -- i.e., what good would it do you to go back and help your past self, since what's done is done? I mean, what if by doing so you put that kid-self on a completely different course that then changed who you are today?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

PARADOXPARADOXPARADOXPARADOX

I think there was a Star Trek like that...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

I believe I would still be myself, only better and with less pain between then and now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

i would probably be a stunning brunette named roberta now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I have to go back to make sure that my dad punches Biff out at the prom or else my mom and dad will never get together and me and my siblings will disapear from this photograph.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I sure as shit wouldn't have stayed in Houghton, MI for so long.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Houghton. Wait a second, Dan, how old are you, and did you go to grade/high school there??

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Twenty-eight, and yes.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

This horrible accident sounds like the catalyst for a mid-life crisis book.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of Michigan, I realize I forgot to answer EZ's question about why I was in Detroit. It was for the wedding of B. Tall3ric0.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Dan, I don't know whether I should have known that already -- I knew you were from MI/UP, but I hadn't registered the Houghton thing. So it's possible that you went to school with my best friend/roommate from college, C4roline S0ttile...?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

oh, dan, there's an awesome show at cal's tomorrow night. cococoma/demons claws/mind controls. gonna be crazy, cal's may not be able to contain the rock.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

What time is the show?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I hope it's at 5:30PM! I could hop over after work. Wait, no I can't. I have class. Rats.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Come on out this Tuesday! Pre-Blackout madness!.?@$^#(!&^%

TUESDAY MAY 23rd
CAL'S BAR
400 S. WELLS
10PM

DEMON'S CLAWS--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---(from Montreal, on In the Red records!!)
www.myspace.com/DemonsClaws
MIND CONTROLS--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---(from Montreal, w/Mark Sultan- aka BBQ, ex-Spaceshits, Sexareenos!!)
www.myspace.com/mindcontrols

COCOCOMA---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---(Chicago's own! Mbrs of Headache City, the Latest - records out &
coming soon on Shit Sandwich, Covert Pop, & Goner Records!!)
www.myspace.com/cococoma

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys. I've been avoiding talking about books this afternoon in order to talk about meat on the rare/well-done thread. I miss you all, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Tuesday night at Cal's sounds fun. Maybe I should get my rock on.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

eric, the only thing i can tell you for certain is that it will be crazy. lots of people in town for the blackout, i know a few who are coming straight from o'scare to cals. mind controls should be nuts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Wear a helmet, EZ.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

more prudent to wear clothes you don't mind getting sprayed with beer.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

This could be the full-on Cal's experience I didn't get playing there to three people.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

ear plugs, you'll need ear plugs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Why oh why can't I have one day off per week that would allow me to write? I'm sick of trying to squeeze it in on evenings and weekends: it really stresses me out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sick of trying to squeeze it in on evenings and weekends

story of my life bub.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday was Morrissey's birthday and I MISSED IT!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

a) ear plugs b) headgear c) disposable clothes. So bike-messenger style, eh?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

While you're at it, GET ME ONE TOO.

I thought today was Morrissey's birthday?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday was Morrissey's birthday and I MISSED IT!!!

not me, in celebration i moped around the house and didn't have sex.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Now we know who inspired the upcoming songs "Why Didn't You Call On My Birthday?" and "Oh Amnesiac American Law Student".

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

You could probably get by without the helmet, just stay out of range of flying gear from stage. I think my forehead is officially scarred with the texture of mic mesh.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Story of the lives of most people who have jobs and hobbies that they can't persue at their jobs, I would imagine.

Not being snippy, just being amazed: Go to law school, and then suddenly when you are just working, you'll be stunned at how much free time you have. Yesterday I ran errands, did laundry, cleaned up the apartment, made dinner, did the dishes, and then thought, "Man, I'm tired, but I'm sure I've got to do..."

And then I realized that I didn't have to do NOTHING. So I crocheted half a hat.

xpost: I hope it's today! There's still time to light a candle and put up a little altar then.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

TODAY IS HIS BIRTHDAY Y'ALL

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

YAY!!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

*I* want to go to a madhouse show, it sounds fun!

Jenny, you are absolutely OTM. Who's the hat for??

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Why oh why can't I have one day off per week that would allow me to write? I'm sick of trying to squeeze it in on evenings and weekends: it really stresses me out.

You're writing all day weekdays here, J.!!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Moz is 47, cripes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

in celebration i will mope around my house and not have sex.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh but this is the other thing, EZ: in order to write things like $tylu$ articles, I need to really concentrate. It's like writing essays for school: I need to set aside time, with my notes, and just focus for several hours.

Except lately I've been realizing that this is making writing not fun for me anymore. And obv I like writing, since I do it on ILX, and I like journaling and all of that, and so I've been wondering how to transfer the breezy casualness of the writing-for-myself to Articles That Are Being Published and Read By a Larger Audience.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, Frank Kogan excerpts a few of his ILX posts in his University of Georgia Press-published book!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think we just need to listen to a few CDs, then go to the Hopleaf with a few notebooks and write responses back and forth, kind of like here, in response to the CDs and create articles from there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago. There's a really big fire somewhere near Ashland and Grand.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think we just need to listen to a few CDs, then go to the Hopleaf with a few notebooks and write responses back and forth, kind of like here, in response to the CDs and create articles from there.

I'm all for that kind of thing. There was actually a $tylu$ article a few months ago that was compiled from posts we made on the staff board, and I was pleased with how it turned out. Likewise, the very short-lived experiment where the U.S. singles column was written as an e-mail exchange between two writers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago. There's a really big fire somewhere near Ashland and Grand.

I wouldn't worry. There's also an Ice Factory right there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

The hat is for me, because I lost all my hats last winter (I went through a phase where I pretty much lost every small material object that I had to lose) and I have four skeins of pretty blue yarn. I think I have enough to make a scarf, too, if I supplement with some leftovers from other projects.

I really need to finish the scarf I started for Courtney's birthday before she gets here on Friday, but it's kind of boring so I wanted to change up for a minute.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

better not be the ice factory as kill the hippies are playing there saturday.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

dudes this thread is really long

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

But it's thick yarn, and to make the gauge for the pattern I used a smallish hook so it's making a pretty stiff hat and I might go back and pull it out and re-make it with either a bigger hook or a different stitch or else I'm afraid it will give me a headache. Although it would be very warm as is.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Pete, we're going long on purpose.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

CHICAGO! GO LONG!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Crazy.

I need a new hobby.

I love being in a band, but I need something else too. I like to have mini-projects, like when I made the Stone Fox cd on garageband, sock monkeys for my fam, learned how to bake (ha! I'm an expert now)... I've been playing sudoku, but I need something else.

I tried to plant seeds in the backyard a few weeks ago but nothing came up.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the problem with practicing my baking is that it makes me eat very badly.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

A good dealer never dips into his own stash.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, Are there any FREE shows we should know about? I was all inspired by your Monday free nights at the EB, but tonight's show isn't free. BLAST!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Post #2199. We really will have no trouble getting to 10,000, will we?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'll teach you how to crochet if you want. It's really easy, and I have a book that has a sockmonkey baby blanket and hat in the back! (disclaimer: which I fully intend to make that for any offspring you produce in the future, so dibbs.)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

So who should I be baking for, Kenan? My coworkers?

I should learn how to crochet. It would be more fun in the fall I'd think. I've tried before and failed miserably. I failed so bad that I had a SEE ME written underneath the F in big red letters.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Cribbage. Tantric you-know. Return to Literati. Karaoke as a serious pursuit. Uke lessons at the Old Town School.

http://static.flickr.com/15/21107762_666aaadf78_m.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Planting isn't very satisfying, it all happens too slowly and I find that most of my plants prefer to be LEFT ALONE, actually, once they're in the ground. But you can start yr seeds a few months before you would put plants outdoors -- I think the basis starts I bought at the greenmarket were probably already 4-5 months old, judging from the seeds I planted that are still only about 3 inches tall (although they've had less than ideal conditions). So maybe keep in mind for next winter? You can buy a bunch of annuals, if you like, and plant 'em where you want 'em for this summer & fall. I think it's designing the garden and getting yr "skeleton" set up and watching it flesh out over time that's the fun of it all, and that requires more patience and domestic stability than I'm likely to have for years to come. I'd settle for a vegetable garden.

Take up bike repair? It's kind of fun!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Err, "basil starts". Sorry.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the mix I made for my mom for Mother's Day. It might be the best one I've made for her, and also the one with the least amount of "indie" on it. Coincidence?

1. Gnarls Barkley, "Crazy"
2. George Duke, "I Love You More"
3. Go West, "What You Won't Do For Love"
4. Double, "The Captain of Your Heart"
5. Massive Attack, "Teardrop"
6. Gordon Lightfoot, "Beautiful"
7. America, "Ventura Highway"
8. Joni Mitchell, "In France They Kiss on Main Street"
9. Buckingham Nicks, "Races Are Won"
10. Richard Hawley, "Just Like the Rain"
11. Willie Nelson, "Cowboys Are Secretly, Frequently (Fond of Each Other)"
12. Corinne Bailey Rae, "Put Your Records On"
13. Natasha Bedingfield, "Unwritten"
14. Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins, "Rise Up with Fists"
15. Little Big Town, "Boondocks"
16. Charlotte Church, "Crazy Chick"
17. Call and Response, "Nervous Wreck"

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I still make some hideously lumpy things, but it's almost as much about the doing as the being done for me so that's okay. Plus: Yarn!

xpost: Huh, there was an article in the Reader about the Old Towne folk music school and the Hawaiian music curriculum and how it's kind of sold out to the kitchy Hawaiiana crowd.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

re: free shows

the shows at the mutiny are technically free, they're asking for a "donation". the friday show will kill.

moto is playing saturday at noon for free at the bottle as part of the brian costello show with brian costello. free mondays at the bottle are still going on but they're usually local bands. if a touring band comes through they'll usually take precedence and since touring bands need to get paid, there's a door charge. i know casiotone for the painfully alone is playig a free monday in june. cococoma are playing a free show in july. haven't really looked since i know all the show's i'll be going to between tomorrow and sunday.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hah, John, the only song I know off that list is the one I GAVE you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, you don't know "Teardrop"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

only one i've heard is the willy one.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Nopers.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

EVERYBODY knows Ventura Highway.

No offense to John, his mama, or Willie Nelson but the gay cowboy song is pretty bad.

Also, what is the date on Captian of Her Heart? Because if it's in the mid-80s-ish, that's a long-lost favorite song of mine.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

When I say "best" I really mean that in terms of an ideal mix for my mom, considering it's equal parts smooth jazz, 70s singer-songwriter, contemporary female pop, and country.

xpost I thought "Teardrop" was pretty well known. It's the one with Liz Fraser of the Cocteau Twins doing vocals.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Teardrop" is the theme to "House M.D."

That is an awesome mix, Jaymc. Serious.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I love Richard Yates! Revolutionary Road is one of my favorite books ever.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Captian of YOUR Heart. Maybe it's a different song than the one I'm thinking of.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

EVERYBODY knows Ventura Highway.

I only heard it for the first time a few months ago when I learned that Janet Jackson's "Someone to Call My Lover" sampled it.

No offense to John, his mama, or Willie Nelson but the gay cowboy song is pretty bad.

I dunno, I think it's kind of amusing.

Also, what is the date on Captian of Her Heart? Because if it's in the mid-80s-ish, that's a long-lost favorite song of mine.

Yeah, I wanna say like 1986. It's total smooth jazz -- the piano line is so killer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, Jenny, you're right: it is "her heart."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

YAY I LOVE THAT SONG.

I only heard it for the first time a few months ago when I learned that Janet Jackson's "Someone to Call My Lover" sampled it.

Yeah, but you're jaymc.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Guilty as charged.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I like that the band name is pronounced "DOO-blay".

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Is it really? Awesome.

I'm listening to this mix right now, and I had to skip the TashBed (as William Swygart calls her) song -- I've never loved it, but now it's getting on my nerves.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Is it really?

Yeah.

Destroyer = Morrissey? Let's discuss.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Do we have to? On the man's birthday? You guys can, I'm staying out of this one.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I mean it as a tribute to both, not an insult to either.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I just don't feel like arguing about anything.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Gah, me either. I spent half the afternoon fighting with this small-minded, deliberately obtuse, pathetic "libertarian" conservative type wannabe about... I don't even know what we were arguing about any more. After a while it went:

moron makes insane points a, b, and c

I refute points by pointing to a lack of statistical proof or any other objective evidince

moron changes subject, calls me names, and makes more points

I patiently refute points, taking care not to call names, and back myself up with hard statistical proof

moron changes subject, puts words in my mouth, calls my sources "less than credible" (I was quoting the Bureau of Labor)and makes more points...

Repeat until it's 4:30 and you have a bunch of work still to do... sigh.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds exactly my recent argument with a libertarian, without the "taking care not to call names."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny? Are you at the Workers Center? I'm trapped in the room at Katherine's desk. They're having an intake meeting that is blocking the entrance!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

SO WHY DID NICKA LEAVE
-- chaki (chaki.tim...), May 22nd, 2006 6:11 PM. (chaki) (later) (link)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

HE HAS A KID
-- JW (jo...), May 22nd, 2006 6:12 PM. (ex machina) (later) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

what?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Never mind -- I think they're talking about someone else. SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Why?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

I hate arguing with libertarians. Even reading Milton Friedman essays, which I only do under duress, makes me feel icky inside.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Chaki meant Nick A., but I think he meant Nickalicious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

I loved The Verificationaist! Does that mean I would like White Noise?

There is a good free show at the Empty Bottle on June 19th. Casiotone for the Painfully Alone and Bloody Minded. Now that's a weird fucking pairing. I saw Bloody Minded open for Prurient and Wolf Eyes. Most of their songs are like 3 seconds. Casiotone is lofi pop music.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, stop asking about post counts. That's really annoying in online communities.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone else: Hi.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Have you read The Hundred Brothers? That is my favorite Antrim.
I am currently reading Blood Meridien on Kenan's recommendation. I also ended up buying that new printing of Flaubert's last novel, Bouvard and Pecuchet, because it sounds agreeably nasty.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

I also love White Noise, because it is hilarious. Not a huge fan of most other DeLillo though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

I will read The Hundred Brothers soon. and white noise.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see Casiotone for the Painfully Alone. They come well-recommended by my radio station bretheren.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am currently reading Blood Meridien on Kenan's recommendation.

HELLO????!?!?!?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, stop asking about post counts. That's really annoying in online communities.

Oh? Why is that?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

EVERYBODY knows Ventura Highway.

I didn't know of it until I heard the Janet Jackson song. But then I realized that I recognized it. But still when I hear it I think, "Oh, that's that stupid Janet Jackson song."

That song was one that I said was Our Song when I was dating Les because it epitomized the empty-headedness of all of his gross club-friends.

Maybe we'll meet in a bar/he'll drive a funky car/maybe we'll meet in a club/and fall so deeply in love/he'll tell me I'm the one/And we'll have so much fun. AAAAAAAAARGH!

(alternative lyrics that applied to the relationship: maybe we'll meet in a bar/he'll drive a fucked-up car/maybe we'll meet in a club/and he'll be taking drugs)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

So. I've been here for one hour, 15 minutes. I can't get the fax machine to work. Can you?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

What the hell time do you get to work?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Today I got to work at SIX THIRTY.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

I will get home tonight at NINE.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Unplug it and then turn it back on. That's my magic fix for most office equipment.

I've been having postage meter drama at work myself. Oh no! What if the postage doesn't get added in time? The clock is ticking! On the next 24.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you Sarah, I'll try that. I am faxing some clandestine materials, so I can't ask for help here.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I decided to do something nice for me last night, so I bought a bunch of CDs to fill in my back catalog of things lost, borrowed, or mp3ed, and today I feel rich in old favorites. It's a comfort.

Amanda, why so loooooooooooong?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

I have class tonight 4-7:30 and it takes FOREVER to get home on the bus + train so I am anticipating being almost in my jammies by 9. Six weeks of this and then I AM DONE. I will try not to complain about it much more.

Today I feel that kind of brain dead that doesn't veer into the pleasant territory of slap-happiness, but lingers in that "I have nothing interesting to say" gray area. So my apologies for extreme boringness in advance.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yaaaaay fax machine worked. Thanks.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

i saw kenan last night but he didn't notice me the two times i tried to get his attention. now i have a headache but that's unrelated to kenan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

You can't whisper from across the room, you have to yell right in his ear. Yell "BOOBS".

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Or "I'M ABOUT TO OVERCOOK SOME PORK!!!"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

"I AM A VEGETARIAN AND YET I EXPERIENCE A RICH AND VARIED CULINARY LIFE!"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't want to disturb him.

boobs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, do i like boobs or what?!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I am tired today. Rock band practice was brutal, too loud and too long. Then I came home and went straight to sleep. No reading, no foreplay, just bed, and yet I am still tired.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I hate nights where you have to go straight to bed, unless I'm worn out from drinking. I need time to decompress, even after a movie.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Me, too. I always read a little in bed, even if it's just a couple of pages.

Hi Evan! How's Montana and med school?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'm happy today.
It's beautiful out.
I got a check from my mom towards the wedding account.
I got some birds in the mail to hang on my wall thanks to a silly ebay purchase (not real birds).
I finally won a sunburst clock just now. I hope Nick likes it. ha ha.

Also, HI, Evan!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Do you have a link for the clock?

I would like a neat-o wall clock for our living room, but I deleted my ebay account in a fit of pique a few months ago.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have banned myself from ebay until I have more time and money. Which could be never, at this rate. I did get some nice clothes from various sellers though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ditto. But now I'm all keen on finding a clever clock.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm finally returning an email to the long-lost friend who claims I peed in the bathtub. I'm going to get to the bottom of this and I'll let you know what I find out! Unless it's really embarassing. Then I will probably just not bring it up again.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Otto -- sorry I missed you. I assume you saw me at the Gold Star, since that's the only place I went.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

you were sitting maybe 3 feet away from me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Then I will probably just not bring it up again.

that's ok, i'll bring it up at every available opportunity.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Overcooked pork is not a laughing matter, people.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/8/0/6/0/4/webimg/11479257_tp.jpg

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Wow.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

OH! That's really cute! Nice going, Sarah J.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

That clock looks dangerous.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't believe in having a gun in the house. A dangerous clock is more up my alley.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

lloyd bentson?

DEAD!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

What??

I feel kind of bad for the person who had the high bid before I sniped it in the last few seconds, but that's what kept happening to me. You have to play the game, man. Life's not fair.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://pictures.swedemom.com/pictures/WBD320381a.JPG

YAR! It's drivin' me nuts!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was at the Dem. convention when he was running for VP. I thought it was pretty exciting at the time. He looked old 20 years ago. He musta been RILLY RILLY OLD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

huge LOL at Jenny.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

also... SwedeMom?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I hadn't seen the news about Bentsen. I wonder what a Dukakis presidency would've been like.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

AWESOME.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kerry & Dukakis look like they could be brothers.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

they look nothing alike aside from having thick eyebrows.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

All Massachusetts politicians look alike.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.evote.com/evotepix/events/demconvention2000/sen_ted_kennedy_of_ma_speech.jpg http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/29/kerry.weld/story.william.weld.cnn.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/thumb/9/93/Mitt_romney.jpg/180px-Mitt_romney.jpg http://www.hws.edu/academics/community/presidentsforum/images/dukakis.jpg http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/06/gore.bush.01/link.john.kerry.ap.jpg http://www.smu.edu/jfk/images/JFK.jpg http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/adams-john-quincy.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4f/EdwardBrooke.jpg/160px-EdwardBrooke.jpg http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/06/election.wrap/link.frank.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Whoooah, clock love, Sarah!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I remember taking photos at that convention with my disc camera. Remember those?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's all the booze and chowder.

xpost: I had a disc camera! That thing took lousy photos.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geh.org/fm/mees/m198210021.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Where was that convention held, Amanda? I remember watching the Republican convention in '88 from a Holiday Inn in Albert Lea, Minnesota. The cover on both Time and Newsweek that week was the controversy over The Last Temptation of Christ.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Atlanta?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

There is a photo of me from that convention wearing a peach t-shirt with a snappy paisley vest and shorts. HOTT.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Do you remember Clinton's speech, the one that supposedly cast him into the national spotlight?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, they do too. That is my final answer.

Someone needs to outbid me on this other clock.
http://ourworld.cs.com/ape2art/sears.jpg

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm gonna getcha with the Kodak Disc, It's my kinda camera, it's not gonna miss, I'm GONNA GETCHA WITH THIS MOTHERFUCKING KODAK DISC!!!!!!!!!!!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Jesse you beat me to it

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm singing that jingle to "One Way or Another" - I'm gonna getchagetchagetchagetcha motherfuckin' Kodak Disc ONE WAAAAAY or another I'm gonna getchagetchagetchagetcha motherfuckin' Kodak Disc

It makes me an awesome coworker.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

No, of course I don't remember anything substantive about the convention. I remember what I was wearing, what kind of camera I had and that the grandeur of the convention was impressive to my tiny 13 year old brain. I imagine I also lugged along my giant plastic case of cassettes, although I do not remember actually doing this. My case was blue and had a sticker on it that said "Amanda." /memories

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

If I remember right, Clinton's speech was ridiculed for being long and boring - he showed them, eh?

I had the Kodak disc, and now I've got a bunch of not-so-great-looking photos from those years.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

NICK I want to learn how to play my newly composed One Way or Another/Kodak Disc commercial mashup on the guitar, plz. kthx.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

If I remember right, Clinton's speech was ridiculed for being long and boring - he showed them, eh?

Yup, that was the one.

Btw, I've never heard of this Kodak disc camera or any associated jingle. < /jaymc>

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I remember thinking a couple years ago that the "no Jack Kennedy" line was so entrenched in popular culture that it seemed hard to believe it was as recent a coinage as 1988.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Btw, I've never heard of this Kodak disc camera or any associated jingle. "

OMG.

/urge to kill.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Let's all call John and sing him the jingle. I'll do my mashup version.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

weird, i can't believe it was that long ago. my favorite thing about that election was the snl skit where jon lovitz deadpans to the camera with "i can't believe i'm losing to this guy".

xpost- i remember the jingle more than the camera. but i do remember both.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone else freaked out by "Kleenex for men"? I just find it so strange and unnecessary.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

So I don't get it, it was a ... disc? Like a cartridge of some sort?

Dudes, you realize I just said I remember what was on the cover of the major newsweeklies in August 1988. (Other notable event that month: First night game at Wrigley Field. I was in Idaho at the time, watching The Muppet Show on cable.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard of it. i'll look

I found Pocky for Men too.
http://www.core77.com/inconspicuous/pocky.html
I gotta run.

Going to get my liver levers checked.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

"Mansize Strength, Mansize Softness, Mansize Reliability"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't that a PJ Harvey song?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone else freaked out by "Kleenex for men"? I just find it so strange and unnecessary.

anyone else watch "peep show" on bbc america when it was on? they have a riff about "man tissue" and what it's uses.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/2c/cf/134016-resized200.jpg

XPOST DAMMIT

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone else freaked out by "Kleenex for men"? I just find it so strange and unnecessary.

"how do I wipe tears (after masturbation"

I have to admit, this part makes me laugh.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, did somebody mention boobs?

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

No.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Coulda sworn.

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

(.)(.)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

this thread appears to have collapsed under it's own weight. or maybe it's the boobies.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I am eating just about a pound of strawberries. Just sitting here, devouring strawberries. Try and stop me and you will get cut. Try and steal one and you will lose arm.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ask nicely and maybe I will let you have one.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I can't decide what to do tonight. I was going to do laundry and watch the ANTM rebroadcast since I missed it the first go-round, but it's so pretty out...

Should I read Kite Runner?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else catch 848 today? There was a neat story on the emergence of Wicker Park as a "bohemian" neighborhood throughout the late 80s and early 90s, where they talked about old businesses that used to be there, the Rael World, etc. A lot of talk about "how it used to be better 5 years ago." Then they flipped the script and interviewed a woman who had bought one of those Victorian houses in like 1978 for 35k (!) when the neighborhood was crime-ridden... and her story was, basically, the bohemianization of the neighborhood is to blame for why her kids can't afford to live and raise their kids there. She and her friends and neighbors in the community did the base work of building the place up a bit, and then outsiders came in looking to speculate and make a quick buck or two off and move on.

Kind of interesting in light of past discussions of house-buying and the like. Made me think: "Oh, so people like me will have to go to Englewood or something."

xpost No thanks, I've got a firm and juicy plum I'm getting set to tear into.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

The nun at Worker Justice, Inc. just recommended Kite Runner to me last night, Sarah.

Look what happened!!! I am so sad.

http://static.flickr.com/55/152008500_2ee566eedc.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

jesus, did you step on a machete?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Woah.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

No, I have just worn those shoes more often than not for four years. Thank god it's not going to rain any more this week.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I can totally see that woman's point, but really what did she expect? Isn't that pretty much the case of gentrification that happens anywhere? You get a couple "brave" souls to lay the foundation, opening it up for anyone to come in? Not saying that's right or anything, but I'm kinda surprised that she would be so surprised as to the direction it has taken.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, was that Wicker Park story on 848 tied in at all to Richard Lloyd's book Neo-Bohemia: Art and Commerce in the Postindustrial City -- which I wanna say Eazy mentioned a couple weeks ago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

That's so sad, Jenny.

In happier footwear news, I'm wearing my new Born sandals today. :-D

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

That is exactly the book, and they interviewed exactly the author. He's a U of C alum who teaches at Vanderbilt.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

(Not the Television guitarist, I presume!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

She sounded surprised at the snowball effect of it all, how everything escalated exponentially. She bought her house (and she admitted it was a fixer-upper, but I suspect that was pretty much true across the board) for 35k and within the time it took her children to grow you couldn't buy a vacant lot in the neighborhood for under 300k, that sort of thing. Also, it sounded like there were many fights between residents who were looking long-term and people wanting to turn property around in a couple of years, make their cash, and get out.

xpost Haha no

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

my lungs really want me to stop smoking but my brain really, REALLY doesn't want me to quit.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Try that gum.

My experience was that until the brain got on board, no amount of lung oysters could make me quit smoking.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like i've got aesbestos in my chestus.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Try getting a really, really bad flu. Then wake up unable to breathe at night. Worked for me!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, I bum the occasional one (thanks, J and K) but they are few and far between.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

The first time I quit for a substantial period of time, I had a TERRIBLE chest cold and watched a TV movie about... Thomas Edison maybe? Somebody with TB. And he was coughing up blood, which I wasn't far from doing and my brain made a serious connection and I quit for more than a year. Then I don't know what happened. I probably had some sort of stupid boy problem and started smoking again.

As long as Jeff and I are together 4ever I will never smoke again, I am sure.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I can totally see how the snowball effect could shock people, but again its kinda the nature of the beast. Maybe I'm just more jaded from spending so much time working with developers (thankfully on the industrial/commercial end) to expect anything different. But when you move into an area with the intention of "turning it around", its going to set a ball rolling. It would be great if we could always say, "ok.. we've got some nice restaurants, much needed amentities, and less crime - stop developing plz" but it's really not ever going to be like that.

(xpost obvs.)

I don't know how I avoided becoming a smoker, both my parents smoked constantly when I was growing up.
Sorry for the ranting pretty much to myself, just had some interesting discussions with people lately about the pros/cons of gentrification so its been on my mind quite a bit. I find the Wicker Park model to be especially fascinating.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

jvc, I would like to talk with you in person about it one day, because I have THOUGHTS but they are very vague and I don't know if I can put them in writing appropriately. But they revolve around wanting exactly what you said can't happen - just nice enough that everyone can all live there and not get robbed, but not so nice that poor people are pushed out.

That is pretty amazing that you didn't pick up smoking. The biggested indicator that someone will smoke is if their parents smoked.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't get the impression she was trying to do anything besides have an affordable place to live, and build a community with her neighbors. I think the "turning it around" people came later, and they were the ones that there was conflict with. But whatevs, it was a good story.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, you should have never quit. You might've turned into Thomas Edison!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

oh geez, i can't keep up anymore.

Montana is nice, though the weather has taken a turn. i had my first test today and it was totally babycakes. high school all over again. (clarification: i am at PRE doctor school, not REAL doctor school).

there are college girls here! eek!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever, you're like 22 or something. You can hang with college girls.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

There are college girls here too. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I want an affordable place to live and community with my neighbors! And a grocery store and a taqueria. I'll take the bus to anything else I need.

xpost: Evan's a babester.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

none of the kids i grew up with who had parents that smoked took up the habit.

college girls. *sigh*

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

You're too old. Stop sighing!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really not meaning to dismiss either her or her story, I can completely see where she's coming from. I'm wishing I would have heard it myself and now I'm wanting to check out that book mentioned. One of the things I was really into in grad school was new ways of looking at urbanism and combating the "bad" kind of gentrification (for lack of a better explanation). There are some great models and ideas out there, but as is usually the case developers are afraid to tackle some of them because there isn't that immediate positive impact on the bottom like.

SF - Obviously I have lots of thoughts about this too, lately I've been thinking about it quite a bit - discussing it would be great, I think I need to nail down some more of my loose thoughts as well.

(Wow, if only I could put this much energy into my actual WORK this afternoon).

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, there are college girls here too! I went for a walk at lunchtime and WOW.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

College girls are great.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Question for you crafty people:

I just got my new Digd0wn bass drum all together and it sounds HOT. However, it's covered by a plastic wrap that is silver and extremely shiny. It might look cool in the club but I'm concerned that it will blind fools when playin outside in the sunlight (fools like me). Any ideas about how to lessen that? I'm thinking:

-Strip off the wrap, but then I would have to lacquer or otherwise seal the wood underneath.

-Spraypaint the whole thing?

-Somehow buff the wrap so that it's more matte than shiny?

I'm sort of jaymc-ish when it comes to this kind of project.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

college girls. *sigh*

tell me about it.

half of 'em are these sweet looking western farm girls, too. then it's 50/50 trashy trying-to-be-city types and hippies.

what is "babester?" does it cost money?

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

You are ALL too old, except Evan. Dude, past a certain age aren't college kids purely annoying? I had a run-in with a 27-yr old last week and it showed, so I might need to move the cut-off up.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

i am older than Jordan.

and, yes: they're already annoying. but pretty!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I thought you said you got a new copy of your CD and it was too shiny. But then I wondered why there was wood underneath.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan - the quickest solution would probably be some fine grade sandpaper. You could lightly sand some of the super-shininess off. Paint would probably come off because of the shininess, and sealing wood is stinky.

Also, Amanda and I are college girls. *bats eyelashes*

I'm getting these shoes after work today:

http://gallery.earth.us/getPic.asp?size=325&id=710

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. Yeah, I sent the master back, way too shiny.

I am technically young enough for college girls but I'm prematurely bitter, I fear.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

You know how sometimes you're sitting in your office chair and the cat comes and sits across your shoulders, digging in and hanging on for all she's worth? What I think is weird in this situation is when you ask yourself, "why is this cat so wet?"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

0000 grade steel wool would work maybe better than sandpaper. But either is good.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

You are ALL too old
This bears repeating. I was only perved on once as a college girl but the dude was 27 and I was 18 and I thought he was OLD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

That's a good idea Jenny, I will give it a shot.

xpost, ooh, steel wool

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

i know i'm too old, hence the sigh.
this morning i noticed that a lot of attractive women work at the roberto clemente high school on western & division or they have the most spectacular looking adult education students ever.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Too old? :(((((((((((( I wouldn't go after an 18-year-old. Good god no.

Jordan, pretty soon it will be smudged with fingerprints and the like and the shinyness will be lessened.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Too old for college girls, I mean. Not too old for us. XOXOX.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hey web guys, let's talk about why the java applet search form on the Norther District of Illinois' website is the pits.

http://www.ilnd.uscourts.gov/LEGAL/NewRules/search.htm

Where's Kenan? Surely he'll back me up on this one.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahah all you have to say is "Java Applet"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, you guys don't count, because you have cool husbands. :) Just induldge me in my thinking I could get with like a 22 year old... A guy can dream!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

god, i can't imagine why you'd want to. outside of the obvious i guess.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost)

...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

(wait that doesn't have to be an xpost)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

what i mean is

AHEM

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

100% husband-free, here!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, pretty soon it will be smudged with fingerprints and the like and the shinyness will be lessened.

True, but it's REALLY shiny. It looks like metal. I will take a picture.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

POTATO BREAD.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to reiterate:
POTATO BREAD.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to break up with her in three weeks when she turns 23, anyway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

When I was in middle school I would fuck up a whole loaf of potato bread if someone left one lying around.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Why in middle school?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know she was 22, I swear!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. I used to love potato bread as a kid, too. If that's what you mean.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

So this Kleenex for Men. It seems that people have the idea that it is a thinly-veiled semen soaker-upper.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Qm7b-3tVb7YJ:vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php%3Ft%3D77172+%22kleenex+for+men%22+masturbation&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a

That Pocky For Men site said the same thing.

Is this really the case? It makes sense, but seems surprising.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I like potato bread.

Jeff and I signed up for organic produce delivery from New Leaf! Yay!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Why in middle school?

Because after that I just BARELY developed the self-restraint necessary to not toast, butter, and eat a whole loaf of bread.

I still like it though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

i have a membership at the co-op! :D

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

potato bread.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I miss co-ops. They are awesome.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, it is so impossibly beautiful outside right now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeh, but this weather bugs me.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Why must I always work late on the beautiful days?

I am not at all embarassed to admit that I am going to pick up the Angels & Airwaves disc when I'm done. Not at all, no sir. Really, not even a little. Mostly.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Don't be embarassed on my account - I don't even know what it is.

I'm a little bored! At work! Imagine that!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I will be embarassed after explaining it, it's the new pop-punk emo meets U2 sci-fi concept album from one of the Blink 182 dudes. The single has me really intrigued. It's obvious cheese, but something about his earnestness and the bombast of the music piques my inner fifteen year old's interest.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dude, I don't want to talk to you about gentrification any more.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, not bad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know what it as either! I'm going to cut a new front-door key tonight because somehow when I got home from bar at about 1am, my key was missing. WHOOPS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I will be embarassed after explaining it, it's the new pop-punk emo meets U2 sci-fi concept album from one of the Blink 182 dudes.

there are so many parts of that sentence i find objectionable it's hard to concentrate on just one.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

J/K, jvc.

xoxo

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

i should really get around to cleaning my apartment or at least put some clean sheets on the beds for my guests. i think i'll go to cal's instead.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's all good. I understand. I know it will be horrible, but something about this guy's balls out hyping of this album intrigues me. He's calling it the best album since Neverm1nd and some of the best music of the past twenty years, all this crazy talk. I expect it to suck and I know it will suck, but like a bad car wreck I just need to check it out.

And, very few agree, but Blink was one of the most consistently great guitar-oriented singles bands of the past five years.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

And, very few agree, but Blink was one of the most consistently great guitar-oriented singles bands of the past five years.

huh. uhm, ok. consistent sure. inspirational even. because they surely inspired me to throw something at the radio whenever i heard one of their rediculous songs. the sonic equivelant of a poop joke. and a stupid poop joke to boot.

but that's just me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

It's still a little hard for me to truly enjoy something like "What's My Age Again" without cringing, but I do genuinely like "I Miss You."

And Andrew's review of the Greatest Hits had me intrigued.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

There are an alarming number of Blink 182 CDs in our apartment.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Andrew was who I speak of actually, he was right on with that review. It's easy to see why people hate them so much, but I can think of far worse things to listen to for a pop buzz.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

So.. gentrification?

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Any number would be alarming, etc.

http://static.flickr.com/48/152098900_8a38ab540d_m.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/45/152098897_369a769420_m.jpg

See?! SHINY!!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

And damn, those rims get hot in the sun. Might be a problem this summer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Where is Andrew championing Angels and Airwaves?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

i would rather hit myself in the temple with a ball peen hammer than listen to blink 182. i know they play hooky pop songs (which is something i love) but those lyrics, those stupid godawful lyrics drive me away. drive me irrational. seriously, i don't like them.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, distract everyone with something shiny while I back out slowly! Great plan!

I meant that Andrew was the only one that agreed with me re Blink as a singles band.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to urinate on myself
I don't want to urinate on anyone else
but I guess that really doesn't matter anymore
because I can't control my bladder anymore

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

That song goes out to OTTO MIDNIGHT! RAWK!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Understandable, that's how I feel about "Laffy Taffy" and that whole snap-pop craze going on right now.

(xxpost)

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I am not as opposed to Blink 182 as Otto is, if that makes you feel any better, Jon.

And those CDs were Jeff's from when he was a hottie college boy, if that makes you feel any better, Otto.

I am the bridge over waters troubled by Blink 182.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Those drums are really fucking shiny, Jordan. Steel wool alone might not do the trick - you might consider steel wool and then a coat of paint.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

*furtively looks for ball peen hammer*

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

i am opposed

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

She said, "when I was a little girl my dad left my mom
he used to always fart and sing this special song
now I wasn't quite so sure until your pants did fall
'cause now I know that your my dad because you use ben wah balls"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

That is so unbelievably bad.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

ok, i just wrote something very coherent and almost conciliatory but then i read those stupid fucking lyrics. so i erased it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ok I can't even defend those really early songs. Those make "What's My Age Again" sound like genius. I always skip like the first five tracks on the greatest hits.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Those drums are really fucking shiny, Jordan. Steel wool alone might not do the trick - you might consider steel wool and then a coat of paint.

I may give that a shot.

(same drum, different angles btw)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, those are ACTUAL LYRICS? And the bladder control ones, too?? WHAT THE FUCK?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

it's like beavis & butthead rock.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

John,

1) Did your Booker T. article get published already?

2) Do I like the pop combo "Hot Chip"?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, those are actual lyrics. And I just dynamited my own peace bridge. Sorry doods!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

NNNOOOOOOOOO don't hurt shiny drums!!! You'll never get the paint off again! They're shiny and new and beautiful!!

I'm dying to hear Hot Chip, but I went to store yesterday and they didn't have it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

it's not like i'm overly demanding when it comes to lyrics either. i'm going to see a band tonight who has a song on their album where the entire lyrics are:

gossiping girls, they don't know what to say
fuck you and your grapevine.

and that's probably my second favorite song on the record.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

But I don't want to have to look at my own reflection while playing music!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

CLOSE EYES.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah those lyrics posted are awful. "What's My Age Again" is horrendous. But there was also this side of the band that totally captured adolescence in a charming, awkward kind of way - see "Dammit".

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

OK.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've gotten drums... re-wrapped (? I don't know how to put it. Not really refinished) before. You can even buy the stuff from catalogs. Might be an option?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

1) Did your Booker T. article get published already?

The question is, did I get it written already? :(

I do have a piece about Bonnie Raitt up today, but the Booker T. probably won't be for another week or two, I'd imagine.

2) Do I like the pop combo "Hot Chip"?

I don't know, do you? I like them quite a bit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

LIke a shrink-wrap equivalent? Fine, go ahead. But NO ROUGH STUFF. On the drums.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Nonono... it's the same material (the name escapes me) but just in not-so-reflective colors/styles. I got mine done in black 'cause it was cheapest, but they had dozens of options.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's like linoleum over a wood floor, except it's some kind of other stuff over a wood drum shell.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Black drums would be cool.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm defending Blink 182 on the interwebs.

*adjusts noose*

Really guys, I don't even like them that much.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, are those the shoes that tip you backwards? I've thought of those, they might solve my arch problems. Let me know how you like 'em!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Did you re-wrap yourself, Dan, or take them in somewhere? 'Cause the shiny-ness is just a wrap over wood.

Laurel, your concern for my shiny drum is deeply touching.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I had it done at a shop in the Twin Cities. I don't really know what is involved tool-wise, though. I am guessing it's not exactly a home project, but I could be wrong.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel - yes indeedy! Their propaganda says they are gentle on knees, too, so I'm hoping they will bring me some relief there. I'm taking the bus to the shoe store and then wearing them home, so I will have info by 7 pm!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

) Do I like the pop combo "Hot Chip"?

I don't know, do you? I like them quite a bit.

I don't know, I've never heard them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Here is a video on how to wrap drums: http://www.jamminsam.com/drum_wrap_video.htm

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I like shiny things and I dislike irreversible damages.

Jenny, I meant to get some of their sandals last year and never put the money aside. Maybe I will soon! I need shoes that aren't too sporto but will stay on my feet while biking.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

i've been reading the name as "hot chimp", i just realized now it was "chip". i'm distracted. one more day of work then the blackout.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Here are written instructions for wrapping drums at home: http://www.jamminsam.com/instruction_start.htm

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

one more day of work then the blackout.

It's what I think every Thursday...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Jenny. :>

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

same but for a completely different reason this time.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Favorite albums of 2006 so far:

Ellen Allien and Apparat, Orchestra of Bubbles
Belle & Sebastian, The Life Pursuit
Booka Shade, Movements
Destroyer, Rubies
Final Fantasy, He Poos Clouds
Gnarls Barkley, St. Elsewhere
Hot Chip, The Warning
The Knife, Silent Shout
Sonic Youth, Rather Ripped

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. So far, I haven't heard any of those.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are forgetting that Tom Delonge is hot.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Tom+DeLonge

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think the only '06 albums that I really like are Prince and Lil' Wayne.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

'06 favorites:
Destroyer - Rubies
Ghostface - Fishscale
Liars - Drum's Not Dead
Gnarles Barkley - St. Elsewhere
Jenny Lewis - Rabbit Furcoat

I still need to check out Final Fantasy, and I'm holding out for official release on Sonic Youth.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I like a few songs on the Ghostface record too, a lot.

The drummer for Blink 182 is good, and it's the exact style of drumming that I'm worst at. I'm still not going to listen to them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

and I'm holding out for official release on Sonic Youth.

Yeah, I said that, too, and then someone provided me with a YSI, and I was like, OH ALL RIGHT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not a Sonic Youth guy, but I've been meaning to buy Murray Street since '02.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I like Murray Street so much. I also like the new one, what I've heard of it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going on a BBQ date tonight!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

BBCute!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Me too! Good old art parties, they never fail me!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I missed "date." I'm not going on a date. But I am going to a art student BBQ! Maybe I will find a date there.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Art student BBQ! Will there be a lot of veggie burgers there, do you think?

Maddie and I are going to some joint by the airport to get ribs. HOT.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I love Blink 182, they've held up great throughout the years. Cheshire Cat is still one of my favorite albums ever.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Best of 2006? Lupe Fiasco "Kick, Push"; Sam Roberts "The Gate"; Knopfler/Harris "I Dug Up A Diamond" and "Beachcombing"; Casey Dienel, Wind-Up Canary (her "Better in Manhattan" is already on the best-of-2007 list); Rhymefest, "These Days"; maybe Espers II; Howe Gelb "But I Did Not" (thanks, K.).

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

Lots of familiar Chicago places in the "Kick, Push" video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPQ1Lt8HexM

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

And Hot Machines "Can't Tell" - and, sure, "Crazy" holds its own against "Show Me Love" by Robin S.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

06, not previously mentioned:

Keith Fullerton Whitman - Lisbon
All those Lily Allen songs. Release an album already.
Scott Walker - The Drift!!!!!!!!!!
Dresden Dolls - Yes, Virginia
Alex Smoke - Paradolia
Casiotone for the Painfully Alone - Etiquette
Boris - Pink
Tokyo Jihen - Adult
Birchville Cat Motel - Our Love Will Destroy the World
Psychic Ills - Dins
Wooden Wand & the Vanishing Voice - Gipsy Freedom
Man Man - Six Demon Bag

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, singles is a whole other ballgame. I have about 40 on my Best of '06 iTunes playlist right now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

YO PEOPLE I am "on teh line" from my own home! But this computer is slow and the thread length is killing me. I have my account set to view unread replies but it still loads the whole thread first -- is there a way around that?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

"Kick Push" is great, both the song and the video. Lupe was fantastic at Chicago Rocks a couple weeks ago, I can't wait for Food & Liquor to drop.

Totally forgot about Boris and Psychic Ills.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Laurel, it's in Settings, under Show Messages -- set it to Last 50 Answers (or however many: I find that 50 is a good amount).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome!! Thanks, John.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

John, have you seen this book? I saw it at The Book Cellar in Lincoln Square and totally thought of you - it's all about connections in photographs (like your record-cover pairings):
http://store.mcsweeneys.net/index.cfm/fuseaction/catalog.detail/object_id/8DFDF415-5DAE-45D1-9A40-3A40B4E97DDF/EverythingThatRisesbrABookofConvergences.cfm

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

Art partay was fun. I drank some tequila and made more wings. I might have found a new band, too. Tomorrow morning may suck a lot!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

one on my friends just passed out and cracked his head open on the cement in an apartment hallway. it was scary shit. probably just dehydrated, possibly concussion. he's off to the ER, me to bed, regretting having to teach tomorrow.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 07:09 (nineteen years ago)

Everything That Rises: A Book of Convergences has been on my wishlist for awhile.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oof, RiL, I hope your friend is okay.

Dan, I forgot to tell you that your wing recipe looks great and I'm going to make it one of these days. I hope you're not too hungover.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

Everything That Rises: A Book of Convergences has been on my wishlist for awhile.

Yes, mine too! Some of those were originally in individual issues of McSweeney's that I have. I even have an iTunes playlist called "Convergences" that consists of similar-sounding songs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

Last night sucked. Five minutes after I walked in the door I got a call from my sister with one of those bits of bad news that makes you feel like you've just been punched in the gut.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Well, all this slacking off lately has been fun, but it's looking like a 12 hr workday today. I just wanna get home in time for Lost.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

JVC, you breathing yet? Hope you're holding together.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm alright, it was just a rough one last night. To avoid going into too much information that I really don't want to share on here - a close family member is going through some serious problems with addiction and isn't learning any lessons. It's frustrating as hell.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning? I completely missed yesterday afternoon, but it looked like all I missed was "best albums of '06" (ranking things is not my forte) and talking about Blink 182, who I do not like because they remind me of the Muppet Babies, who were cute in Muppets Take Manhattan, but then grew very very very annoying in the cartoon. They are human cartoons: blecch.

Also, I am sorry to hear about your family member JVC. That's always difficult to deal with.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.. I love that comparison. But then I always like Muppet Babies too, but mostly because of the multiple Star Wars references and cut scenes from the actual movies.

Thanks, I'm just not sure what to do right now. It's like every two weeks I get another phone call about how this person has fucked up. They've been personally driven to rehab and checked in twice, but checked themselves out right away again both times. It's like they say... the person has to want to help themselves before they'll accept any help.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, too, Jon. Dealing with an addicted, non-lesson-learning close friend or relative is NO FUN. I hope you're okay.

Um, did anybody read the Red Eye today? Apparently the CTA is pretty gross: "Red Line cars were found to be significantly dirtier than those on the Brown."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

red line car, wasn't it? the sample size was pretty thin. not that i don't believe that cta cars (and those stupid cloth seats in particular) aren't hideous bacteria catchalls.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

We're all covered in germs, bugs, mites, bacteria and filth -- why can't people accept this? Just don't lick the seat.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

The seat probably has Spam crumbs on it, but even if you're hungry DON'T LICK IT!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I just got an email from my Navy fighter pilot stepbrother. Did you all know I had a navy fighter pilot stepbrother? He's in Japan.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't know that! Where in Japan is he stationed?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Atsugi, Japan flying super hornets" - per the email, but I don't know where that is or what that means. It's weird to think that my stepbrother kills people with planes for a living. It is also weird to think that he graduated from college with very little debt and then went into the military BY CHOICE because of 9-fucking-11.

Also: I have perfected the art of walking up and down CTA steps without touching any rails, and I am a chronic post-CTA ride hand washer. And I carry hand sanitizer in my purse.

I AM NOT CRAZY.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I really want to go to Japan. Watching the finale of the Amazing Race last week really reinforced that. I also want to go to Dubai, that place is just mad crazy right now with the amount of money being spent on ambitious architecture and engineering projects. I was reading the Vanity Fair article about how they are recreating the entire world in a series of man-made islands off the coast. Supposedly Rod St3wart bough the Britain one for like $27 million.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Super Hornets are F-18s. For some reason I know this.

My hangover is... tolerable. I'm surprised, I drank like 8 tequila shots and 2 beers.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

If I drank 8 tequila shots last night I'd probably be in jail right now. I'm not real sure what F-18s are, either, but I suppose I could look it up.

Jeff really wants to go to Japan. It's not first my my "dream travel" list, but I sure as hell wouldn't turn down a trip there. I do think it would be fun to go somewhere, Japan being a good example but lots of other countries, too, that is just totally weird to my little American brain. A country where instead of statutes white dudes on horses cast in bronze in parks there are statutes of multi-armed blue people.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

SRSLY, Dan, I'd be in the hospital. But you are substantially more substantial, I have gathered, so I'm sure that's giving you the advantage here.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

two of my houseguests showed up yesterday when i was expecting them today. HOPE YOU DON'T MIND THE FILTHY APARTMENT FELLAS!!!

cal's was nuts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

I can't even smell tequilla without feeling ill, even 8 years after it was ruined forever by my 21st birthday.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it wasn't all at once, and there was a nice layer of wings as a buffer zone. It was fancypants tequila too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f18ef_load.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

That is the plan my brother flies and the bombs my brother drops.

I'm bugging about this a little. I'm also pissed because I have ANOTHER brother who's stationed in fucking Iraq who went into the military because he couldn't afford to go to school and didn't know what else to do and neither my asshole father (Iraq bro's dad) or my dumb bitch stepmother (not Iraq bro's mom) will EVER answer questions about where he is or how he's doing. They will literally respond to questions about Chad with news about Michael.

And this is why I generally ignore that side of the family, and why I dread news from that quarter, because it puts me in a foul mood for the rest of the damn day.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I sort of wish I hadn't posted that. Sorry, internets.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ooo was it Patron? I like that stuff. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

patron was part of my monday, $7 a shot at goldstar.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hiiiighwaay tooooo thuh DANGER ZONE

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't do shots, really, cos I like my booze to go with smokes and go slowly, but a gimlet w/ Patron & real lime juice = heat wave heaven. Otherwise the only way I can drink hard stuff for hours and still be in good shape is to have a cut of beef for dinner and slow down digestion to a practical standstill.

Jenny, that sounds like an upsetting blind spot for family members to have. How does the forgotten brother take it?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

8 tequila shots = crazy
Top Gun shit = crazy

The dude in the cube next to me here is from Dubai. I gather that his family is rich and wants him to get married and have a better job than working here, but all he wants to do is siiiiiiiiiing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

(and Maddie went on a date with him in college, apparently convincing herself that he's straight)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

It was some "high-class" Cuervo product. I've seen it around in the stores here for like 30 bucks.

http://library.bevnetwork.com/bottles/420/t_20109.jpg

It had been sitting around my old apartment, and my new apartment, for more than a year. My mother actually bought it for me in Mexico! Did I mention I've never really drank tequila like, ever?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, the story of the forgotten brother is tragic from the get go, so suffice it to say that he's used to the shit end of the stick. He just blames everything on my stepmother, which is not entirely accurate but hey, whatever works.

I think I could drink tequila in a refreshing summer mixed drink, maybe, but mostly I need to stick to beer. Although I have been thinking about the summer citrus and club soda drinks lately... fizzy and refreshing!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

When I was a senior in high school, the marching band did a field show to "Take my Breath Away," the concert band did a medly of Top Gun songs, and the school chorus also sang "Take my Breath Away." I can't even watch that movie anymore, even just to laugh at the homoerotic undercurrents. It just reminds me of polyester pants and plastic band hats.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man now I can't wait for it to be 89 degrees and a weekend, someplace that I can sit and smoke and drink and sweat and sun and have NO agenda. Of course summer isn't like that, it's gross and full of awful subway ovens, I mean cars, and street dirt and work days. Shitfucker.

J, does he keep in touch w/ you and other siblings? Parents kick the farm eventually but siblings are there forever to remind you of the time you drank rode your bike off the front porch.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Unless you don't have any. :(

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

drank rode your bike off the front porch

Now that sounds like a good story.

Last time I was home my sister and I were crying laughing, at the dinner table, talking about when I accidently threw the head of her She-Ra doll out the window of the car on sone long road trip.

Pobrecita Milkmaid!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Thank god.

xpost to amanda

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't do shots, really, cos I like my booze to go with smokes and go slowly

VINDICATION

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Cross out "drank". That was going in a "drank mud" direction but I couldn't think of an actual event from my own sibling-hood so I dismissed it. Whereas one of my youngers DID actually ride his or her bike right off the porch steps.

John? Vindicated how?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

What did the email from your brother say?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry 'bout that. I have these little outbursts occasionally. I am not a happy only child. But there's nothing I can do about it, so there's no point in talking about it at all, much less online.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, here I thought it was supposed to be "drunk." xxpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, Laurel, it's kind of complicated. I'm totally happy to talk about it by email, if you're interested, but it's a little weird to air quite that much dirty laundry on line.

OH I got the shoes, and am wearing them today. First impressions of Earth shoes with patented Kalso Negative Heel Technology: They gave me blisters, but I am dumb and wore them without socks. I think it will take a little getting used to, but I can see them very quickly becoming my every day shoes (just like by dear departed Borns were). I might be imagining things, or maybe it's just because they do align my body a little differently, but my knees seem to hurt less, which is refreshing.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, it's a running joke among the CHILX crew that I always say "I don't do shots" and then everyone makes fun of me for it. Seriously, if I didn't know better, I'd think that you using that exact phrase was a wink at me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am a happy only child! I'll try to make you feel better about it, if you want. But in a couple hours, because I have yet another meeting to go to.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, you could have lots of kids & dogs and run them in and out of the house in one big, mad, happy bunch to make up for it?

No prob, Jenny. Don't mean to dig things up, just that now that I & my sibs are grown-ups ourselves I'm so much more aware of our right to built the bridges that WE CHOOSE and not the roles we learned.

John, I'd wink at you any time (surely I have at some point?) but that line is my own. My other tagline used to be "I don't DO highland" but then I got suckered in and now my old teacher made fun of me last week for recanting.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I used to know hardly any only children: it was a curiosity when I met one. But now I know several. Elizabeth and Matt from my band are both only children -- Matt technically has several step-siblings but they're either much older or much younger, and he speculates that him being lonely as a kid is why he's so incredibly social now. Also, Jeff's an only child, right? And Krista, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost It's a lot more fun to say "I don't DO such-and-such" and make it seem like it's beneath you, then to admit the real reason you don't do it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

then = than

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be interested in the Earth shoes for arches & lower back-problems, and I want the skinny strappy gold sandals, I think. Ooo so many things I could do for my birthday....

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Jeff's an only child. I consider myself one, too since I'm my mother's only child, and never actually lived with any of my assortment of half- and step-siblings. The closest I ever came was having to share a bedroom with the Navy fighter pilot on visitation weekends, and I didn't care for that one bit.

I was a very happy only child. I didn't even like it when the idiot neighbor kids would come over to play (I used to actually hide when I saw them coming). Even before the additional siblings were born/discovered, I never asked for a brother or a sister. Just pets.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel - they have phenomenal arch support! That's part of what I have to get used to.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I rode my bike to work! This was my route:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=199223

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

me:the mystery noise from the kitchen is solved
!!
it was my shirts boiling over

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, that route looks SO appealing -- make it a regular habit? And it reminds me that I had a dream about Chicago last night! I was standing in an office plaza or something, facing east to the lake. Can't remember anything else but it was really important that that was my lake.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, that's cool. Do you carry a pedometer around with you everywhere so we can spy on your location on the internets??

I have two sisters, as most of you know. I love having sisters, even though I feel fairly distant from the youngest one. But also, I loved being oldest.

Something bizarro is going on in the office today - you know, lots and lots of whispering and hugging and serious faces... WHAT EVS. I think if you're going to talk about something private you should do it IN PRIVATE, not in front of other people without giving background. It's just like a private joke. Grr.

But anyway, it sounds like many of you are in the same mood I was Monday, so I feel for you.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Once we had this guy down on his knees he was all ours. We fish hooked his mouth wide and stuffed over-sized cock down his throat while pinching his nose closed. He couldn't breath. SEE IT ALL NOW!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for that

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

No thanks.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah OTM.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

WHY JESSE WHY?

So (SMALL SPOILER BUT NO BIG DEAL, I DON'T THINK) Sister Carrie has moved from Chicago to NYC and is stunned by 1) the huge increase in rent; and 2) how much more important it is to be fashionably dressed.

Not much has changed in more than 100 years, I guess!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, it seems like that would just result in a lot of vomit, which -- the bordello scene in Seven Types of Ambiguity notwithstanding -- doesn't seem like a good place to be.

XP: HAH! I ran home from work and changed into severe bike clothes to go to hardware store for emergency key-cutting, and the adorable butch at the store was SASSY with me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Who the hell is Sister Carrie? Carrie White? She eats shit.

I just thought it was interesting that this gay porn was so degrading to the man who was "starring."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

You clearly haven't seen a lot of straight porn, then, if degredation of "stars" surprises you.

Sister Carrie is the titular character in the Theo. Dreiser novel I'm currently reading.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

But in gay porn there is usually a lot less degradation of any person, even if that person happens to be the slave boy in a bondage scene or the recipient of a fisting.

There is something especially malevolent in a gay porn in which a sense of degradation is apparent, because the makers really had to work hard to make that happen.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like a built-in feature that it often is in str8 porn where a producer/director would have to take pains to avoid it. In this case it's an obvious goal.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I know we've talked about it before, but I'm announcing it to the world: One day I will do a comparative study/gendered analysis between porn for gay men and porn for straight men. One day when I can stomach watching a whole lot of porn.*

*I'm not anti-porn per se, and quite pro-porn if it's good, but the vast bulk of it is just dreadful.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

An open apology to my office:

I did not have time to make anything for lunch, so I am having butter flavor light microwave popcorn. I am sorry that I'm about to make the entire office smell like fake butter.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason my office smells like the tortilleria in Pilsen. Maybe it's just stuck in my nose from last night.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

You really don't invite your office to read this board, do you?

You clearly haven't seen a lot of straight porn, then, if degredation of "stars" surprises you.

Let's Go Out Back and Shit On Linda!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it's more of a confession than an open apology.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think thast project would be very interesting to read and/or to be involved in.

There are definite differences and I'm certain that what you learn about one will surely affect your perception of the other, both negatively and positively.

The producer is always in power, so any performer is automatically subjugated.
Male performers may seem to be subjugated less b/c of our male-dom society, despite their role in the film
-the exception being obviously hard-up men who are clearly not there b/c they love the biz (junkies, straight men who need the money, etc)

The exploitation of the female in straight porn might look less malevolent in light of what you learn from the gay side.

Gay porn actors who make appearances in gay bars are definitely treated as pieces of meat, but perhaps less so than women, as the men see them not JUST as fuck-toys and j/o material, but also as buddies and fellows.

/abstract

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Male performers may seem to be subjugated less b/c of our male-dom society, despite their role in the film

I think it's more about the fact that it's just men in gay porn - there's not the same societal gender inequity being played out via sex on film when it's two men, so yeah, there's more the perception that if there's domination going on, it's going on because the parties have agreed to it rather than as a microcosmic representation of societal gender oppression.

Abstract indeed. I'm still working all this out.

Maybe we can be the Masters and Johnson of gay/straight porn, Jesse!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Well said, both of you.

The only gay porn I like is solo stuff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

"I think it's more about the fact that it's just men in gay porn - there's not the same societal gender inequity being played out via sex on film when it's two men, so yeah, there's more the perception that if there's domination going on, it's going on because the parties have agreed to it rather than as a microcosmic representation of societal gender oppression."

Yes, that's what I meant.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

SO WHO WANTS LUNCH?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

I mean there's definitely some financial inequity bringing the actors to work for the producers, USUALLY. The exception (perhaps) being the big big stars who have the producers at their beck and call.

Setting aside the financial side of it, gay porn seems less exploitative of its actors.

I wonder if the men in straight porn are not more exploited (financially) than the women? They make pennies on women's dollars. It's not unusual for a straight male porn actor to switch over to gay for the $$. What are they doing in straight porn? Perhaps they just think it's cool to get to fuck on camera?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Please, not sausage

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.metronews.ca/uploadedImages/scene-TonyDanza_article.jpg
"The exploitation of the female in straight porn might look less malevolent in light of what you learn from the gay side."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

HOW CAN YOU FUCKING THINK OF LUNCH WHEN WE ARE TALKNING ABOUT FEMALE EXPLOITATION?

(I mean REALLY--I can only think of dinner!)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Has he had work done? Around his eyes? He looks weird.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Tony Danza had dabbled in the naked arts, you know.

A few other male TV actors too. I'll have to look them up, but they did solo j/o stuff mostly. Ryan Idol? I think....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.oxygenvalve.com/vanessa/photos/danza.jpg
"Perhaps they just think it's cool to get to fuck on camera?"

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Kenny Loggins got married in the nude.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Slightly NSFW Danza photo

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I have a photo of Tony Danza and his giant uncircumcized wang on my computer at home.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Huh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently, Seacrest got a piece of glass in his ass the other day, and the entertainment correspondent on B96 this morning was saying "I guess we'll have to check to see if he's walking funny" -- to which Eddie and Jobo were all like, "Hmmm, Ryan Seacrest. Walking funny. Because of something to do with his BOOTY."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

I just want to extend my appreciation to all of you who listed their favorite music of the year. Now downloading: Jenny Lewis (I just know I'm going to love this), Boris (didn't know they had a new album), and... um... Wolf Eyes. Which is on no one's list, but I've been procrastinating about this record for too long. I also found a good connect for the older Final Fantasy album, but not for the new one. Whatevs -- the new one has a poop joke for the title, which is not encouraging.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW, my favorite music of the year thus far:
http://www.soundslike.be/lib/img/reviews/1655.jpg
Wilderness - Vessel States

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

John, I listened to clips of Hot Chip's previous album last night and didn't think it was for me. Does that mean I wouldn't be into the new one either?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't realize Wolf Eyes had a new one out. I really can't get into that new Wilderness, just too boring for me. And I loved the first one.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

What is my favorite 06 album so far? Hmm... I can't even remember what I've bought this year, but not much. I rarely listen to the Jenny Lewis album even though I like it. The new like young album is good.

I'm sick of office gossip. SICK SICK SICK of it. I would like to swap out a few coworkers. Thankfully, one will be leaving in a few months anyway.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

John, I listened to clips of Hot Chip's previous album last night and didn't think it was for me. Does that mean I wouldn't be into the new one either?

Hmmm, I don't know -- what is it that you don't like about it? For the record, I've only heard a couple of songs from that record, but my instinct is that the new one is better.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I will make popcorn too, Jenny. We can be partners in crime. It basically makes one coworker nauseous, but I don't care for her much anyway. BWAH AH HA!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Lunchtime acquisitions: pasta salad, shaving cream.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Not mixed together, I hope.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm... whipped topping...

I made and ate my popcorn with very little fanfare. One coworker offered me half of her sandwich because, "Is that all you have for lunch?" The only negative after effect is that my fingers smell like fake butter now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE AND DO SMTHING AWESOME.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I WILL GO WITH YOU WHERE SHOULD WE MEET

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

what is it that you don't like about it?

The vocals and general indieness, I guess. I was hoping for more funk and hard beats.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Our air conditioning sounds like a stadium full of people screaming. I CANNOT TAKE IT. TOO LOUD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Re: new Scott Walker -- I said I didn't know if I loved it or hated it, and I should know by now that this means that I love it to pieces, but just not yet. Whenever an album challenges me, I guess my first impulse is to resent it. But then I take a deep breath, see what it was talking about, and respect all the more for having confused me. This record is so much smarter than I am.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

(xxp) So essentially:

ehh I'm not getting this. Am I crazy that this is like dance music with an indie 'filter'? I donno I only listened once but yeah, not feeling it.
-- deej.. (clublonel...), February 26th, 2006 8:39 PM. (deej..) (link)

(I think there are harder dance beats on the new one, esp. on something like "Over and Over" -- which I can send you, if you like --but yeah, the vocals are pretty indie.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to myself Prolly still not going any mix CDs in the near future, though. The shit is weird.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

AMANDA: WESTERN PA? BOOOORING.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've only listened to that Scott Walker record twice. I don't think I'm ready for the challenge just yet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty much.

(I would not not listen to that song if you sent it!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Dance music with an indie filter" is kinda like catnip to me, though: cf. Out Hud, Junior Boys, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Did someone send me a song via YSI? I got this random song via email and I have no idea what it is.

OMG THIS A/C IS SO FUCKING LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I picked up Tilt at the WLUW fair, but I haven't listened to it yet since my turntable has decided to start playing out of one channel only. I feel like I need to absorb that before moving onto Drift.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Me and Westlaw are about to battle TO THE DEATH.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Who? Why?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

And can I watch?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Dance music with an indie filter" is kinda like catnip to me, though: cf. Out Hud, Junior Boys, etc.

It makes me think of dudes who are like "why listen to anything but metal, it's so varied, there's rap metal, ambient metal, it contains multitudes, etc.", or have similar attitudes about comic books or sci-fi.

Meaning, if I want to listen to dance music or Prince or Sly Stone, that's what I'm going to do. I don't need it through an indie dude filter.

(I'm not saying that's what you do btw, I definitely believe indie-dance fits your tastes well)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh - just listened to The Ditty Bops on KCRW - worth hearing when it's archived! They did the song with the balloon helium that John and I saw last year.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Westlaw is the big hairy scary legal database and I'm not very good at advanced searches and it's not listening to my terms and connectors and I don't know how to make it give me what I want and it's making me nuts.

Plus, as of five pm today I'm the only clerk on staff until the middle of next week and after a week of not much happening, suddenly I've got four projects, all of which are I NEED THESE ASAP OMG LOL and it's kind of frustrating.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I passed out from sucking helium once, during the Summer of Rollerskates -- 1985 maybe?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan -- yeah, I mean I like plain ol' dance and plain ol' indie, too -- but combined they have a nice synergistic effect on me. Hard syncopated beats + fey melodic vocals = swoon.

Eazy -- I might be able to score the new Ditty Bops album via the wonders of YSI.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Now downloading: Jenny Lewis (I just know I'm going to love this)

Good lord was I wrong about this. If she were on American Idol, Simon would take her to pieces. She sounds like she needs to give up singing, and go ask mommy and daddy for some more money to get her teeth bleached again. Bleeeeech.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Nut I've deleted it, so we can never speak of it again. No offense.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

BUT

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Try the ditty bops next kenan! I had forgetten that they were the reason I ended up here - I was googling something about them one night and came upon a Chicago thread and then realized "wait, that's john and kelsey and nick..."

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, really, K.? I've never paid attention to Rilo Kiley before, but I've liked both Jenny Lewis/Watson Twins songs I've heard, esp. "Rise Up With Fists," and thought they'd be up your alley, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I just don't like noise very much. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://ericzieg.com/eric_ditty_bops.jpg
Bad phone camera.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

esp. "Rise Up With Fists,"
I especially do NOT like this song. I dl'ed it from somewhere and I found it overwritten I never listened to it again. It reminded me of something that a teenager would write while she was rilly rilly angry. I'm not saying it sucks unequivocally, just that I did not like it.

I also do not like Wolf Eyes. Yuck.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Are Blood Brothers noise? Because I fucking love them.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also: Lightning Bolt. When I'm in the mood, that's great shit. Wolf Eyes is... Jesus. Grow up, you little shits.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know any of the words of "Rise Up With Fists" (which I keep mistyping as "Firsts") except "there but for the grace of God go I." The singing is pretty.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Okay now five projects.

Shoot me.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I like how you downloaded two whole albums only an hour ago and now have such vehement opinions about both of them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Also: Lightning Bolt. When I'm in the mood, that's great shit.

aye, agreed. disturbing news from a friend in providence who says the last two times he's seen them they were horrible. he's a HUGE fan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Blood Brothers are not noise.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I like how you downloaded two whole albums only an hour ago and now have such vehement opinions about both of them.

Well, we're not dealing with challenging music here, we're dealing with two easily identifiablt things: bloodless soul (hate!) and stupid noise (hate!). I don't need to go off and read the reviews.

Blood Brothers are not noise.

I suspected not. Great fucking band, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, I was listening to Hot Chip just now, and one song reminded me vaguely of Aphex Twin's "Milkman."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't need to go off and read the reviews.

I wasn't suggesting that. I guess it's just funny to me that you'd download a whole album if it's so easily identifiable as something you'd hate. I mean, you don't see me going around downloading any Bob Dylan or B.B. King records, do you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

(Or you know, that's what sampling individual songs is for.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Blood Brothers are great. Hair Police > Wolf Eyes though.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

LADIES AND GENTLEGERMANS

I
AM
NOW
WIRELESS

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it's just funny to me that you'd download a whole album if it's so easily identifiable as something you'd hate. I mean, you don't see me going around downloading any Bob Dylan or B.B. King records, do you?

But you already know you won't like that. I'm still baffled by your Dylan hate, and hope to convert you somehow, but I was dl'ing artists I'd never heard. First impression: not even CLOSE to something I want to listen to.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Thank God for downloading, eh?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

That doesn't answer the question of "why not start with a single song"?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Single songs are not really the question, much less the answer. Why not download the whole record, then decide if you like it? If it's a bad record, you know it inside of three or four songs, but a bad song could be an anomaly, the shitty thing they picked out as the single, or could work better in the context of the record.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, no, you're right, K., that wasn't a fair analogy. I didn't realize you'd never heard Wolf Eyes before. Are you saying you do like some noise and had hoped that Wolf Eyes was like the noise bands you like? That's fair.

I'm a little more confused about the Jenny Lewis hate, though, although it appears that a lot of it just has to do with you not liking her voice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Because if I hear one song and I like it, I want more. If I hear one song and it sounds like Wolf Eyes, I know to avoid it. It's just less mess, I guess. I also don't download entire albums unless they're on emusic.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

it appears that a lot of it just has to do with you not liking her voice

I don't like what she's trying do with her voice. Her voice is limited. I love Neko Case, and Jolie Holland, and etc., but this seems like riding the coattails of people who are already riding coattails, and her voice is too clean to sing soulful ballads anyway. It's quite bad.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

but a bad song could be an anomaly, the shitty thing they picked out as the single

In this case, though, it seems like you're SO turned off by the overall aesthetic of both of these artists that it's hard for me to imagine that one song wouldn't be enough to let you know the whole album wasn't worth bothering with.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I also don't download entire albums unless they're on emusic.

This could be the important difference. I download anything the internet will let me find.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

i can't be bothetred to read this thread, but it doesn't appear to be about chicago at all. nonetheless i'll be in chicago next week, so can you guys recommend any music or anything to check out on weds night? where should i go for a drink?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I love Neko Case, and Jolie Holland, and etc.

This is why I thought you'd like it, or at least not hate it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

You and Amanda are both assuming that I would ever bother to download an individual song that was part of an album, instead of just downloading the whole album. It's the same investment of time for me to find the album as it is to find the single. So... why not? I don't download music to sample it, I download it to flat-out fucking steal it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

See, I don't do that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

where are you staying fritz?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, well, we've already gone over my reluctance to "flat-out fucking steal" things (convenient for the feds that you've said this plain as day on a public message board -- maybe Mickey can give you some advice for weaseling your way out of it).

But it's also not the same investment of time for me. If I ever do download whole albums (which is rare), I have to do so one track at a time. I suppose this isn't the case, though, with Slsk or whatever you use.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Feds,

See, I don't do that.
-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), May 24th, 2006 2:41 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later)

Later,
A

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Fritz. Don't you want to meet all of us? *batting eyelashes*
What area will you be staying in? Have you been here before?

I totally disagree about Jenny Lewis. I think she has an amazing voice. Though I do think her new solo stuff doesn't capture her ability. It's pretty, but she doesn't belt it out like she does in Rilo Kiley. When I saw them live, I was totally blown away, especially when she performed "I Never." Download that one.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Fritz -- there's a chance I'll be going to see Man Man, Skeleton and the Girl-Faced Boys, and Brighton MA at Subterranean (which is in Wicker Park). I know nothing about the first band, I quite like the second one (cough*indie-filter*cough), and I'm friends with the third (but they're also really good).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

no idea where i'm staying yet. never been to chicago before.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

When activating a new copies of Windows, should I register it? Are they trying to 'get me' somehow?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

It so happens that Nick and I live in Wicker Park, so maybe we could meet you and John for a drink before you head off to that show (if you go)?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah -- if I go to the show, I'll prob be coming straight from band practice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

i live near wicker park and this sounds like a perfect excuse to go to happy village. and unrelated but i used to live in Brighton, MA.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

that's be cool but i may well be working until late, wouldn't want to make any plans i couldn't keep...

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

When activating a new copies of Windows, should I register it? Are they trying to 'get me' somehow?

If it's a legal copy, register it. If not, not.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

working until late? club foot.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I have yet to make it down to Club Foot even thought its just down the street.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

cool name

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.timelesstrinkets.com/OtherBoyToys/Images/TMNT88FootSoldier.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

cool name

I don't know about that. I always thought "Club Sandwich" would have been cooler. Less Richard III, more ham and turkey.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Montreal has Club Soda.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

i saw suicidal tendencies at club soda in mtl!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

i saw boobs at club super sex in montreal.

it always comes back to the boobs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Club Sauce

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

from the police log of the forest leaves edition of the pioneer press newspapers:
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SUSPICIOUS INCIDENT
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An 8-year-old River Forest boy wrote a check for $1,000 from his mother's checking account and gave it to a classmate in exchange for a toy, according to police reports. The incident was reported at 3:28 p.m. May 13.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

must have been a hell of a toy.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Kalamazoo had a Club Soda, too. I saw Tortoise and Blonde Redhead there, on separate occasions.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get this -- reported by whom? It's not like the classmate could've cashed the check. So the mom should just tell her son to rip it up. Why is this a police matter?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Do they make electrical tape in really wide rolls? 'Cause I'm thinking about kidnapping a big dude. Or using it as the ghetto solution to my shiny-drum issue.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

if the kid no longer has it and signed it over to an adult it's cashable.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

But it would need the mom's signature, right?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure that's hard to forge.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

MOM in crayon.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

18 minutes to go until i take leave of my senses for 5 days. i got a premonition of mayhem. can't wait.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

that would be so fucking awesome!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Whoo. I work on Thurs but THEN 4 DAYS OFF.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Hey if anyone wants to be my 'crew' in Toronto next month and get a wristband for 3 days of music (w/ Television, etc. playing), drop a line...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

laurel, enjoy your birthday, i doubt i'll be online between now and then.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I have three more days of work then TWO days off! I'm excited.

I would like to "crew" but I get one day off a week, so...

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'll try! Enjoy yr blackout!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, when is Memorial Day, Monday? That means...3-day weekend??? Holy shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I just realized that, too, Jordan. I almost wish I'd planned a trip but I forgot about holiday.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

So did you take vacation days anyway or something?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Just Friday, but I could have come to Chi if I'd planned ahead! Oh well.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be tempted to go with you, Eazy, if that wasn't an insanely busy weekend for C4n4st4: show at Sub-T on the 8th, Matt's bachelor party on the 9th, performance at I.O. on the 10th, and slot at RibFest on the 11th.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

RIBFEST

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

if the kid no longer has it and signed it over to an adult it's cashable.

What adult is going to actually cash this check, though, unless they're evil?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, RIBFEST.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

My ribs last night were delicious, btw.

John, I am sad that you are playing Ribfest and yet unable to appreciate ribs. Sad for you, and for us both.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.shopfoodex.com/catalog/images/MeatlessRiblets_r5_c1.gif

Actually, these are kinda gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

And here I thought you were talking about Kzoo's ribfest. I went to that once. MOTHERFUCKING NIGHT RANGER played.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, awesome. D1gdown played a Ribfest here a few years ago, but I think it was discontinued after that (rainy, poorly-attended) time.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think there are lots of Ribfests. Chicago used to have a "Rockin' Ribfest" that Flaming Lips played a few years ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Akron had a ribfest. Everyone does.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I suck my gut in real hard and hold my breath and have my own little ribfest in the mirror.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I admit it, I've never done that.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Well, we may not have a ribfest anymore, but we do have a bratfest.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, right, I forgot - I saw that Ribfest date and that's what kept me from asking you to pack the clarinet and hit the road.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

It'd be fun, though. I haven't been to Toronto in nearly 20 years.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I want to go to that man man show. Take me, HayMC.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Tell me about Man Man, El Jefe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Also awful: Wolf Eyes. No wonder I was putting off downloading this. It's bloody ridiculous. I mean, it's... it's... it's like being peed on. It's like being shaken down for change by a filthy white punk who should know better. It's like watching Gummo. Fuck fuck fuck this record.
-- sinful caesar sipped his snifter (fluxion2...), May 24th, 2006 2:07 PM. (kenan) (later)
I just don't like noise very much. :)

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), May 24th, 2006 2:08 PM. (jaymc) (later)

Jesus, you kids sound like a room full of Alex P. Keatons. (I don't have any Wolf Eyes records, but W.E. + Anthony Braxton last year live in Victoriaville was PURE CATHARSIS.

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Alex "P'd on by Wolf Eyes" Keaton.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

shh..I'm adding "You kids sound like a room full of Alex. P. Keatons" to my book of insults.
So I worked with the premature babies tonight. Some of them are so preemie they are covered in downy black hair. Working there always makes me extremely depressed because the reason most of them are so tiny is because of young mothers who are malnourished and have a history of drug use.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 25 May 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

So I've decided after two months of working in the hospital and all the weird things and shift yanking and them calling me at four in the morning and cleaning up shit for hours that I'm going to grad school for my masters in modern eastern european studies. I'm applying to U of Chicago so maybe I'll be seeing y'all in a year.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 25 May 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's a switch in the opposite direction!

Good morning y'all. I'm running a little late this morning.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Premies are covered in downy fur??

Hey, guys! Look! It's Jenny!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

dancin'! Where was that? Who's that other dude?

yeah, i second that...fur? ew.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

LANUGOLANUGOLANUGO

Lanugo: A covering of fine, soft hair, as on a leaf, an insect, or a newborn child. SEE ALSO: anorexics.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Jenny, how'd you get on stage??? Not that I blame you, who wouldn't want to rock out with a shiny guitar golden girl! But to have the cojones to do it, that's something.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I didn't realize that was the same thing. I also didn't know it was black. Is it always black or only if the baby's hair is black?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny looks like she's really hard at work.

The FF invited her on stage.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

That other guy is a friend from this band called Sharks.
See? More people on stage...

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I love that picture.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Good times. Sarah, you look impossibly serene, as usual.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

The second picture is better because you can't see how massive my ass has become. Jesse, you were up there, too! Just hiding behind Sarah.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh you can see Jesse behind my shoulder in the first pic, too.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Jocelyn, wow, being a nurse is no joke. My mom was an RN for most of my life (she's a privacy coordinator now, all HIPPA, all the time...) and whoa the stories. Whoa.

It would be totally sweet if you went to UC! I met a really nice woman at yoga last night who's getting her masters/phd dealie at UC for history, focusing on 19th century British and Chinese relations. I thought that sounded almost as cool as Eastern European studies. Any time you want to get together and talk about Eastern European NBA players, I'm your woman.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Poxy fuled! So that guy from Sharks is Ben? Hmm.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, how'd you know his name?

Eazy is on the far left of that second photo, too!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

I love those pictures, looks so much fun. Finally sampled the tracks from Raw Yang that are up on the site, I'm diggin'.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Do you know him? xpost
Yeah, Eric looks cool there.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

EZ looks like he's doing some rumba/robut hybrid dance! Awesome.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I love that picture.

I was posting about the first picture, but the second one is good too.

Btw, FFs, your online ordering system isn't working.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

1. Oddly enough, Kr has been interested in going to grad school in Poland for E. European studies.

2. Jenny -- TS: Vlade Divac vs. Toni Kukoc?

3. I am exhausted. Kr was in Colorado for five days, and her flight was due back last night at 8:45. Unfortunately, it didn't leave Denver until 11. I was at band practice until just before then, anyway, so I went and sat in a bar at Belmont and Harlem for a couple hours before picking her up. Zzzzz.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I only know of him because Evan described him as the standing argument for miscegenation. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Vlade Divac vs. Toni Kukoc?

Haha, this reminds me: Elizabeth and I have this tradition where we sound-check our mics by pronouncing the names of famous Central/Eastern Europeans, e.g. Lech Walesa, Vaclev Havel, Andrei Codrescu, Krzystof Kieslowski, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's funny.

I'm reading Andrei Codrescu's book on New Orleans now, it's pretty good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

What online ordering system??

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Vlade Divac for three reasons: 1) he was really good; 2) he smoked; 3) a couple years ago when everybody was comparing the playoffs to "war," he looked at the camera in all his serious Serbian hotness and said, "These people do not know war." Or something similar.

ALTHOUGH he did go back to the Lakers (BOOOOO) at the end, sending poor dear Peja to the Pacers but I figure that's mitigated by the fact that Serbia wants to like, elect him as President of the Universe or something, which is precious.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I like Andrei Codrescu's voice.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I thought you were kidding about the basketball players.

I think I do a pretty good Codrescu impression -- ask Kelsey.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, it's a little obsession of mine. I tend to pull for teams with the highest number of Eastern European dudes on them, although Dirk Nowitski is a fair enough substitute (still, I look at the Suns/Mavs series as win/win because I love Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitski equally, but in different ways). But I don't really care much about the Milwaukee Bucks, so I'm luke warm on Toni Kukoc.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

What online ordering system??

Exactly.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure that I've ever heard Codrescu on NPR, or at least I didn't know who he was at the time.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think I have a set of tapes of him reading, somewhere...I vaguely remember it being funny but haven't listened in YEARS and years.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Honestly, I am kind of amazed at your basketball fandom, Jenny. But then again, I follow a sport that "no one" cares about. Speaking of that: Go Sabres!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

so I'm luke warm on Toni Kukoc.

Yeah, see, I didn't even know he was still playing. I'm kinda funny with basketball and football because I used to know a lot about them but haven't really actively followed them in over 10 years. Hence my conversation with your friend (I forget his name) at Hema's Kitchen a couple months ago, where upon learning he was a Phoenix Suns fan, I was like "All right, Kevin Johnson, Danny Ainge!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0522/nba_g_nowitzki_412.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sportalicious.com/Images/ben_wallace_claus.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

That guy doesn't look Eastern European.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

No, but I was trying to find a comparably scary pic of Ben Wallace, but found that instead, and it made me rofle a little.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, most of what I know about Ben Wallace is from this thread: White trick-or-treaters in blackface: C/D?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ben Wallace plays defense for the Pistons and he is a scary looking dude.

One more for LOLZ and then I will take it to ILHOOPS:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/503/olyfullgetty57534035ce012mavss.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that first dude is fierce.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I've never really looked at I Love Hoops before. C or D: Vlade Divac

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

xpost But not in that Top Model way.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

No, in that over seven-feet-tall white man cro-magnon brown way.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://latc.com/2005/06/29/images/SPORTS-warriorscamp-du_fmt1.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Gah I have too much work to do to be chatting! I disappear now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny likes tall mens.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

I also follow a sport that "no one" cares about.

http://www.jazzenzo.nl/images/brad_mehldau_trio05.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know there was Competitive Drum Tuning League!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I meant jazz and/or drumming, both of which are very (kinda unfortunately) sportlike in their competitiveness.

That picture of (I think) Brad Mehldau and Larry Grenadier intently watching Jorge Rossy tuning his drums is indeed weird.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I am teh suck at tuning on the fly. Know a good resource?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not the best tuner, but I do okay. I don't do the method where you tighten one lug and then do the one on the opposite side of the drum, because it's not like the tension is so high that the head will break if you don't do that.

I just go around clockwise and tighten each one a quarter or half a turn at a time, and I try to tune both heads to the same pitch (except the bottom head on the snare is often tighter than the top, and the resonant head on the bass drum is usually looser than the batter head). I try to get them pretty high and responsive without sounding boingy, but tuning's pretty personal anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry everybody else, for the BORING.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I just got an email from Ticketmaster (?) that reads "Don't miss Saliva"

GROSS.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.smithjp.com/jazz/jazz_images/Jack%20de%20Johnette.jpg

Dennis Haysbert could star in The Jack De Johnette Story.

Can you tell it was cold the night of the FFs show? I'm dancin' in a sweater. Can't do that at Cal's.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jack DeJohnette is black? Huh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

(I think for a while there I got DeJohnette confused with suburban jazz drummer Jack Mouse: http://vicfirth.com/news/images/jackmouse.jpg)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Funny, I had to look up a picture of Dennis Haysbert, not Jack DeJohnette.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Here's how you can tell I am not a comics geek: To me, Alex Ross is the classical-music critic for the New Yorker and Warren Ellis plays violin for the Dirty Three.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), September 13th, 2005.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

If Alex Ross were the classical music critic for the New Yorker he'd write long articles about how Renee Fleming should shoot lasers out of her boobs.
You're not allowed to talk about eastern European men on the internets without me. I almost left my long distance bad relationship to date a 6'7 sweetheart of a "oh yeah my family were Russian aristocrats" man in college. Don't think I don't regret this a lot. (Is KR your special ladyfriend jaymc? This is what happens when I'm out of the loop.)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ever since we were talking about "Captain of Her Heart" I've had that song's companion song (in my mind) stuck in my head: "Piano in the Dark" by Brenda something?

Those songs are like brother and sister.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060523/i/r2497524583.jpg?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Awww!

Is KR your special ladyfriend jaymc?

Yes indeed. Kr = Krista. Altough I guess writing it like that makes it seem like the element krypton. Whatever.

We met at one of Jordan's shows!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Kr-TableImage.png

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I thought she looked like a noble gas...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

OK guys. I promised to show you this, not thinking anything would ever happen with it. But I was wrong, and I'm still sticking to my word...

The art project I mentioned where I was videotaped making out is here: http://elizabethaxtman.com/portfolio - it's a flash site, so I can't link directly, but the video is the fourth link from the left at the top.

Now I have to decide who else to show this to...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Aw dude!

I wish I wasn't at work.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I am trying to sneak quick glimpses.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

So do I need a portfolio to get into art school?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

So I hear.

(do you mean grad school?)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Do I care?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

"I don't know nobody in fuckin' Yonkers!"

That couch looks soft and comfortable.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, there's Dan! Dan's a leg man!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, I'm just a lousy actor.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'll watch at home too.

So, check this random thing out. I knew one of my female cousins was pretty tall, but HOW tall (on left)??

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

First guy: good hair & sides. He's in a band, isn't he.
Second guy: good hand technique!
I think I lose track of a couple in the middle...
Dude in white T-shirt: SHOES OFF COUCH, like, GAWD.
Stripey socks boy: goes for the neck aaaaand...END SCENE.
Dan: well played! Nice supporting arm technique.

Plus I have to say, all the knee flexes and foot scrabbling are adorable. Is this what everyone looks like while making out? I'll have to think about the knees next time.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, what's funnier is that those shorts make EVEN HER look like a midget.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to Sharks demos I recorded. They sound great. I am awesome.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'll have to think about the knees next time.

No! You'll ruin everything!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, knees can be HUGE used properly.

Was Dan the only dud who got to be on top? Studly.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

the only DUDE

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hi. Did you know Argo Tea has free wireless?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

No, there were others on top! The first guy, in the beige shirt, and the stripey socks one, and the awful white guy w/ shoes. Some of the dudes on top were not very...active, though.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Knees seem to work better than most anything else.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's Int'l Mr. Leather this weekend? I just saw a guy in black and red leather pants, a blue vinyl top and motorcyle boots at Argo.

Yay. And I live 2 blocks from the leather bar.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Knees and thighs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I remember from living at Clark/Winnemac that on Mr. Leatherman weekend there are huge motorcoach busses parked outside the Eagle.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think I know what Kenan is getting at with the knees.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm banned from the Eagle. :(

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

:.(

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

:...(

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

;_;

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, a few weeks ago I made a sideways smiley in my journal. That I write in longhand. Totally unnecessary.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

OH MAN that reminds me of this totally hilarious thing that happened to me a couple of weeks ago, right after I moved. I was getting off the Blue Line at the Logan Square stop, going home. A guy came up and asked "Where is the eagle?" Now, I didn't know what he was talking about. I assumed that he meant a bar or restaurant or other business that I hadn't seen yet. I said something to the effect of Sorry man, I don't know, and kept walking. Another guy, who had overheard, said "It's right there!" and pointed to the giant monolith with an eagle on top that is the statue in the acutal Square. I felt stupid for a second, said "Oh, I thought you were talking about a bar or something." The eavesdropping dude said "No, that Eagle is a gay bar on Clark!"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Your gurnal?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8417/capitalism0fj.png

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha. gurnal.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Are we all in agreement about Wet Hot being a laugh riot? All of us?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it with a bunch of people who had seen it dozens of times already, but I still liked it a lot.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny and Jeff do not concur. They hated Wet Hot.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

As for me, I loved it so much that I bought the DVD.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny and Jeff also hate Annie Hall, wtf.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jeff liked Annie Hall. Jenny took issue with it for its misogyny. (sp?)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I take issue with it for being REALLY FUCKING BORING in between the good Jewish jokes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen Annie Hall. Actually, that Woody Allen thread makes me want to see a few movies.

I think that when I first saw Wet Hot I wasn't totally blown away, more like "yeah there were a couple great jokes in there", but it gets funnier every time I see it. I've got it on dvd too.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jeff liked Annie Hall. Jenny took issue with it for its misogyny. (sp?)

No, I think they both hated it. I remember talking to them after we all went to see Match Point, which Jenny hated -- I asked her if she was a Woody Allen fan in general and she said no. I said, "Yeah, okay, but what about Annie Hall?" And she said she hated it (I don't remember why). I said, "Really? You're kidding. You're the only person I've met who doesn't like Annie Hall." And then Jeff piped up: "Actually, I didn't like Annie Hall, either."

I take issue with it for being REALLY FUCKING BORING in between the good Jewish jokes.

Did we see the same movie? The lobster scene made me laugh and cry at the same time. For some reason, I also had an erection -- ask Kelsey.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I also hate Woody Allen. Maybe I'd like his movies more if he wasn't in them?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

If I was going to rent one Woody Allen movie tonight and convince Maddie to watch it, should it be Annie Hall, Match Point, or...?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost)
Interiors
Another Woman
Celebrity
Sweet and Lowdown
Match Point
Bullets Over Broadway
Purple Rose of Cairo
Radio Days

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

(also I forgot:)
Melinda and Melinda
Alice
September

But the point is, some of these are among my very favorite Woody Allen films.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan -- if you haven't seen Annie Hall, you really should.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

I like Sweet & Lowdown.

xpost, okay

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

The ones on that list that don't work as well are the ones where the lead actor is trying to "do" Woody: Kenneth Branagh in Celebrity or Will Ferrell in Melinda and Melinda. I don't remember enough about Cusack's role in Bullets Over Broadway to say whether he did this or not, although I remember enjoying the film quite a bit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

LAUREL I did not know that you also hate Woody Allen! This is wonderful news. I no longer feel so alone.

That lobster scene was dumb, and the whole point seemed to be to point out what a bitch his current girlfriend was. Which was the point of just about every seen in that movies, except for the scenes that were about demonstrating how stupid his girlfriends were or how smart Woody Allen was by comparison.

However, the initial meeting w/ Annie/tennis racket as giant erect penis part was pretty fucking hilarious. So was the part where he said he did coke at a party once and tried to take his pants off over his head. That still makes me laugh.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

That lobster scene was dumb, and the whole point seemed to be to point out what a bitch his current girlfriend was.

Huh? I really have not seen this movie in at least six years, but I thought the lobster scene was about how Alvy is totally neurotic but Annie loves him, anyway. I found it poignant.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

...about how Alvy is totally neurotic but Annie loves him, anyway

Ahahahahahahaha. Yes, this is my problem with every Woody Allen movie. LUV U JMZ.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Neurotics don't deserve love?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

No no, of course they do! I just don't find them very compelling as romantic leads. Which is about ME and not about neurotics.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Apropos of nothing, I was just thinking that it might be time for me to do stand-up again. It's been nearly seven years since the last time. I think I've got some new material by now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I want to do more performancy kind of things too, though it's hard without Squeezed. I am learning about circuit bending e-z music electronics and thinking about making some kind of public art installation I can set up and leave in Wicker Park or somewhere like that.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Nick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hi John. I've been meaning to email you to see if you and Kr. want to do something with me and Sarah sometime over Memorial day weekend. But I haven't done so yet.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, potentially!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, another 3 days of treating my body like a night club is going to kill me. come to the funeral, there'll be an open bar.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

People don't like Woody Allen movies? I've heard of these people, but I never thought that they walked among us.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the lobster scene was about how Alvy is totally neurotic but Annie loves him, anyway. I found it poignant.

She even takes pictures of him being horrified at the lobsters, and you can see them framed in the background later in the movie. She turned his unbelievable wussiness into an art project.

There are two lobster scenes -- the one with Annie, and then one later, where he's pathetically trying to reenact the episode with another woman who just stands there smoking and goes, "What's the big deal?"

And as for misogyny... oh, please. We're not supposed to completely sympathize with Alvey -- he's a nerd, a jittery basketcase, and yes, he has huge problems with women. That's what the movie is about. Annie accuses him several times: "You don't think I'm smart enough!" And of course she's right; he doesn't. The reason all that is in the movie is not to prove she's dumb, it's to prove what a mess Alvey is.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

And at the end, she leaves him. She leaves him because she can't put up with his shit anymore, and she has people in her life who don't judge her so harshly, and she knows that Alvey will always try to keep her down, because that's where their relationship began, and he can't grow up. She knows it, and so does he. And he's heartbroken because his own stupid head shit has lost him a woman he really loved. That's what the whole movie is about.

It's one of my favorite movies.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan so so so OTM.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

hi nick. plz to send shrk demos?

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Did you find your bike, drunky?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

Annie: So you wanna go into the movie or what?
Alvey: No, I can't go into a movie that's already started... because I'm anal.
Annie: That's a polite word for what you are.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, another 3 days of treating my body like a night club is going to kill me. come to the funeral, there'll be an open bar.

**insert any number of lftr pllr/hold steady references here**

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Buona Terra Prix Fixe Motherfuckers!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

What about it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going in half an hour!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

no, i didn't :(

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh man i'm hungry for buona terra!

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hungry for nothing. I did the buffet at Pizza Hut again, and had two plates of salad and eight slices of pizza. I don't need to eat for a week.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

How did King Crimson Discipline get on my hard drive? Did someone give this to me, or did I download it? I've never listened to it before now, didn't even know I had it, and it's fantastic. FANTASTIC.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

John - You just called me! Try it again.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also -- get one outgoing message.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN I AM WATCHING ANNIE HALL

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

I was a huge King Crimson nerd in high school.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am pleasantly buzzed from the two beers I draknk with Kenan at happy vilage

GBX I haven't mixed down the sharks demos yet, maybe this weekend?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 26 May 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Kevin!!

I have day of fun planned -- new contacts, pedi, bike ride, dress shopping, nap, PARTAY. But before that: stay up late COS NO SKOOL!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Laurel. Unban me from NB please so I can defend myself on the JAYMC thread?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe if you had TEXTED me insteaad of announcing it on a public thread?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

Big fucking sigh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nick -- I am making you a mix. It is kinda mean.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

BUT NOT NOIsE NO FUCKING WAY.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

DURNK

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, was there ever anything mailed to me? Cos I never got it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago mail seems to suck, in my experience. The bills always show up though.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oy gevalt. HEY that reminds me, I'm going to a Jewish (Lubavich) wedding next week! Or at least the reception part. I fully expect hilarity.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't like Annie Hall. I love Manhatten, Crimes and Misdemeanors, and Match Point.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, was there ever anything mailed to me? Cos I never got it.

I feel as though there's a buried message in this post. Perhaps even an "Eat shit." But perhaps that's just the treatment I deserve.

Truth be told, there's a disc sitting right here on my desk, made and ready to go, labelled "Laurel April 2006", but I was so umhappy with it that I thought I could do much better. Like, if you had one meal to make someone, and an unspecified time to do it, wouldn't you take your time?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

I love Manhatten

You can't even spell Manhattan. I trust you not.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

I can't spell a lot of words. You should have noticed that by now.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and my job will become available soon. If anyone wants to apply to do phone support at Giganto firm.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

You got a new job? But the old one sounded GREAT

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

I got promoted to a level 2 position, which means no more answer 40 - 80 calls a day.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

I am now "floor" support.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 26 May 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno... you made your job sound so sweet...

Congrats on the promotion, though. For real. Sounds like you did your time in the trenches like few could.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, after playing "Slow Down Chicago" twelve times since Wednesday, I give in - time to buy the C@n@st@ album. I know this is kind of a weird place to bring it up, but its been a long time since one song has completely dominated my iTunes.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Friday, 26 May 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I got durnk at work and got into an wordy argument about cut vs. uncut with a co-worker who was also tipsy. It got loud and it culminated with the other durnkard grabbing my cockage to see if I was cut or not, all while standing at the service bar.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

(PS--I am cut, but strongly and unequivocally denounce cutting, religious concerns withstanding)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

(religious reasons particularly targeted in my denouncement)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse is always in favor of being a dick.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 05:33 (nineteen years ago)

(oh jeez. Did I imagine that remark was going to be funny? Oh... too late.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

No, you're right, the whole point of Annie Hall isn't WA's misogyny. It's Woody Allen being a neurotic little asshole who has to cut other people down to make himself feel better. But there is misogyny in it - there is in every Woody Allen film. Women in his movies are either bitches, idiots, or as in Match Point, shrill baby-mad harpies.

But hey listen, I love King Crimson, too, so can we set the Woody Allen divide aside and just enjoy prog rock together?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

One of these days I'll watch a Woody Allen movie, I swear.

― jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

OH SHIT I am confusing the lobster/Diane Keaton scene with the lobster/smoking woman scene where he tries to recreate the "magic" of his being a total moron with the smoking lady and she's totally not buying it. Like, if she'd treated him as the mornonic manchild he seems to want women to treat him as, he'd have kept her around, but since she expected him to be a regular grownup, she was then portrayed as a complete bitch.

Sorry - I jumped in during work yesterday all excited and got my scenes confused. The lobster/Diane Keaton was cute-ish.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

since she expected him to be a regular grownup, she was then portrayed as a complete bitch

You're not being fair.

But I think you know that, so yes, we'll let this one go.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

It's Woody Allen being a neurotic little asshole who has to cut other people down to make himself feel better.

Yeah, but... funny. This whole argument, I think, turns on whether you think he's funny. I do.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

What did Jordan think of it?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

But hey listen, I love King Crimson, too, so can we set the Woody Allen divide aside and just enjoy prog rock together?

I was gushing to Nick about this record last night -- Discipline. It's really Adrian Belew's record, fresh off the heels of Remain in Light, and the two records have a lot in common. Except I'd never before heard Belew or Fripp bust loose and get hard, like, whoa, these guys can RAWK.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Why am I not being fair? Because I don't agree with you? I think that's a completely fair analysis. The entire movie is about him finding someone willing to put up with his particular brand of neurosis. And all the women who don't (which, as you pointed out, is all the women) are castigated in some way by the movie. They are either too dumb to get his jokes or too bitchy to roll around the floor with him and some lobsters. Annie Hall is pretty sympathic but she's still pretty dim. And yes, she leaves, but the end of the movie isn't about her triumph. It's about his tragedy. You're clearly supposed to identify and sympathize with WA (this is apparent from your comments above and the movie itself), and wallow in his misery with him. So Annie's not a bitch, but the end of the film is still structured to make you think "Oh poor Alvy, why did she leave him?" and not "Jesus, Alvy, if you weren't such a neurotic, egotistical twit, you might not be all alone at a hotdog stand or wherever that was right now."

Yes, it turns on the funny, but only to an extent. I can even see where some parts of the movie might be obejectively funny, but they are so tainted with my personal irritation at the whole premise of the movie that they don't make me laugh. Under the right circumstances, someone getting hit in the balls is funny, but that doesn't make Jackass consistently hilariou.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

I would have dropped it but there's too much trademark Kenan condescension in "But I think you know that, so yes, we'll let this one go."

And now you know how to push my buttons!

Disclipline is a great record.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

So Annie's not a bitch, but the end of the film is still structured to make you think "Oh poor Alvy, why did she leave him?" and not "Jesus, Alvy, if you weren't such a neurotic, egotistical twit, you might not be all alone at a hotdog stand or wherever that was right now."

I think you're supposed to think both.

It's like in All the Real Girls: it's a shame they had to break up, since they had such a cute, funny, and caring relationship, but it was also inevitable since they were such different places in their lives and wanted different things out of it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

the end of the film is still structured to make you think "Oh poor Alvy, why did she leave him?"

I don't think the movie leaves a lot of grey area as to why she left him.

Why am I not being fair? Because I don't agree with you?

No, because taking a character who is onscreen for seven seconds, has one line, and seems a little abrasive for all that is wrong with Woody is unfair. You mentioned this scene before you even remembered where it was in the movie, so obv. it stuck in your craw. I don't understand why.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just waiting for the Jew among us to weigh in. Whatever he says, I will accept as if it had been handed down by scroll from the ancient tribes of Israel.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

If you assume the perspective of the person who's doing the dating, especially if you're still in love with someone else, all dates seem like idiots. It's not a gender bias thing.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to remember which Man Man song has the breakdown in the middle where he yells "MOUSTACHE MOUSTACHE MOUSTACHE MOUSTACHE MOUSTACHE MOUSTACHE!"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's a shame I wasn't here yesterday afternoon because I CANNOT STAND WOODY ALLEN OR HIS PRESENCE IN HIS MOVIES. I have made this abundantly clear in the past. I'm sure his movies are fine, it's him that bugs me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, we can't argue about that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out that David Gordon Green is not that guy's real name. His name is like Brian or something. Did everyone know this but me? Why does this make me think differently about his movies?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I still think they're good and all, and even if he changed his name to Charo would I like him about 100 million times more than Woody Allen, but I don't understand the name change.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, "Er!c D00gan".

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

What did Jordan think of it?

Jordan liked it, but he had to keep reminding himself that when this movie came out, Woody Allen (the character) had not yet been parodied and referenced to within an inch of his life.

I didn't think it was hilarious, because all the jokey parts were in the context of awkward relationship moments (and the relationship was the point of the movie, not the jokes). The bit that got the most roffle from me was a throwaway moment when he goes over to her place for the very first time and is asking her if she has any weekend plans, and says, "You have plague?" in a very dry manner.

What I liked best about the movie was actually the filmy stuff, the split screens and the 4th wall breaking. Wait no, what I liked best about the movie was LIL' WALKEN.

Also, it's kind of an awkward movie to watch as a couple, but I guess I should have seen that coming.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

haha Yeah.

But nothing can top the time I took a date to see Your Friends and Neighbors. There was no sex afterwards.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Best time to watch Annie Hall -- you've just broken up with someone, you're all alone, you have a pint of ice cream and a box of Kleenex handy. (Yes, men do this, too.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

I know. I left the theater thinking, "I'm never touching myself again. Much less anyone else."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I wish Kelsey were still around so I wouldn't feel like liking Woody Allen movies was just a dude thing.

Also, no one ever talks about it, but I really liked Another Woman, which stars Gena Rowlands as a philosophy professor who comes to realize that she's been too distant from others in her life. About as far away from the "typical" female Woody Allen role as I can imagine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's one of his Bergman women.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Meaning she's not dumb?

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I wish Kelsey were still around so I wouldn't feel like liking Woody Allen movies was just a dude thing.

It's totally not. Like I said, I don't know a whole lot of people who don't like Woody Allen movies. Maybe I should get out more, but hey.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Or in high school.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ah.

I liked the glimpse of young Jeff Goldblum too. And according to IMDB:

Sigourney Weaver .... Alvy's Date Outside Theatre
Truman Capote .... Truman Capote Look-Alike (uncredited)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

"I forgot my mantra."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Truman Capote .... Truman Capote Look-Alike (uncredited)

HAHAHAHA I did not know that!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

So I guess LA vs. NY humor was fresh back then?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

My mom HATED Annie Hall when it came out. She went to see it with my dad and he loved it and she is still talking about how much she hated it. He is still talking about how much she talks about how much she hates that movie.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

LA humor never dies. See LA Story.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, Amanda.

Truman Capote .... Truman Capote Look-Alike (uncredited)

I have NO idea where in the film this would have been. At the party?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm ok with Woody Allen movies, but they got tiring after a while because they're all the same. The earliest ones were best, because I love Diane Keaton.

I thought Match Point was great, but then again it's completely different than most of his work.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

I have NO idea where in the film this would have been. At the party?

It's when they're sitting on a park bench, watching people go by, and he's making wisecracks about them. "There's the winner of the Truman Capote look-alike contest."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah! I'll have to re-watch that scene before I return the movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Also, can I just point something out: I know that his personal life has nothing to do with his movies BUT for a man who supposedly makes sweet movies about relationships in which people are in love, but for some reason it won't or can't work out to go and seduce/marry his adopted daughter is TOO MUCH for me to stomach.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I expanded my ire from the one woman in the one scene above. That scene is useful because it's representative of his relations to women throughout the rest of the movie. And for the record, I'm not saying it's not a good movie, it is. It's very well written, acted, and directed. I'm just saying it's another film in a long line of films that provide evidence that Woody Allen hates women. Or at least doesn't have much respect for them.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Amanda - I wonder if all the shrill baby-mad harpies in Match Point were a poke at Mia Farrow and her collection of orphans.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

So anyway, Discipline is good, but Absent Lovers (the live album from the 80s band) is better. Esp. the sound.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I have something more fun for us to talk about:

The Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs, courtesy of the National Review
JOHN J. MILLER of National Review

So here are NR’s top 50 conservative rock songs of all time. Go ahead and quibble with the rankings, complain about what we put on, and send us outraged letters and e-mails about what we left off. In the end, though, we hope you’ll admit that it’s a pretty cool playlist for your iPod.

1. “Won’t Get Fooled Again,” by The Who.
The conservative movement is full of disillusioned revolutionaries; this could be their theme song, an oath that swears off naпve idealism once and for all. “There’s nothing in the streets / Looks any different to me / And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye. . . . Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss.” The instantly recognizable synthesizer intro, Pete Townshend’s ringing guitar, Keith Moon’s pounding drums, and Roger Daltrey’s wailing vocals make this one of the most explosive rock anthems ever recorded — the best number by a big band, and a classic for conservatives.

2. “Taxman,” by The Beatles.
A George Harrison masterpiece with a famous guitar riff (which was actually played by Paul McCartney): “If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street / If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat / If you get too cold, I’ll tax the heat / If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.” The song closes with a humorous jab at death taxes: “Now my advice for those who die / Declare the pennies on your eyes.”

3. “Sympathy for the Devil,” by The Rolling Stones.
Don’t be misled by the title; this song is The Screwtape Letters of rock. The devil is a tempter who leans hard on moral relativism — he will try to make you think that “every cop is a criminal / And all the sinners saints.” What’s more, he is the sinister inspiration for the cruelties of Bolshevism: “I stuck around St. Petersburg / When I saw it was a time for a change / Killed the czar and his ministers / Anastasia screamed in vain.”

4. “Sweet Home Alabama,” by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking a shot at Neil Young’s Canadian arrogance along the way: “A Southern man don’t need him around anyhow.”

5. “Wouldn’t It Be Nice,” by The Beach Boys.
Pro-abstinence and pro-marriage: “Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true / Baby then there wouldn’t be a single thing we couldn’t do / We could be married / And then we’d be happy.”

6. “Gloria,” by U2.
Just because a rock song is about faith doesn’t mean that it’s conservative. But what about a rock song that’s about faith and whose chorus is in Latin? That’s beautifully reactionary: “Gloria / In te domine / Gloria / Exultate.”

7. “Revolution,” by The Beatles.
“You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to change the world . . . Don’t you know you can count me out?” What’s more, Communism isn’t even cool: “If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao / You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow.” (Someone tell the Che Guevara crowd.)

8. “Bodies,” by The Sex Pistols.
Violent and vulgar, but also a searing anti-abortion anthem by the quintessential punk band: “It’s not an animal / It’s an abortion.”

9. “Don’t Tread on Me,” by Metallica.
A head-banging tribute to the doctrine of peace through strength, written in response to the first Gulf War: “So be it / Threaten no more / To secure peace is to prepare for war.”

10. “20th Century Man,” by The Kinks.
“You keep all your smart modern writers / Give me William Shakespeare / You keep all your smart modern painters / I’ll take Rembrandt, Titian, da Vinci, and Gainsborough. . . . I was born in a welfare state / Ruled by bureaucracy / Controlled by civil servants / And people dressed in grey / Got no privacy got no liberty / ’Cause the 20th-century people / Took it all away from me.”

11. “The Trees,” by Rush.
Before there was Rush Limbaugh, there was Rush, a Canadian band whose lyrics are often libertarian. What happens in a forest when equal rights become equal outcomes? “The trees are all kept equal / By hatchet, axe, and saw.”

12. “Neighborhood Bully,” by Bob Dylan.
A pro-Israel song released in 1983, two years after the bombing of Iraq’s nuclear reactor, this ironic number could be a theme song for the Bush Doctrine: “He destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad / The bombs were meant for him / He was supposed to feel bad / He’s the neighborhood bully.”

13. “My City Was Gone,” by The Pretenders.
Virtually every conservative knows the bass line, which supplies the theme music for Limbaugh’s radio show. But the lyrics also display a Jane Jacobs sensibility against central planning and a conservative’s dissatisfaction with rapid change: “I went back to Ohio / But my pretty countryside / Had been paved down the middle / By a government that had no pride.”

14. “Right Here, Right Now,” by Jesus Jones.
The words are vague, but they’re also about the fall of Communism and the end of the Cold War: “I was alive and I waited for this. . . . Watching the world wake up from history.”

15. “I Fought the Law,” by The Crickets.
The original law-and-order classic, made famous in 1965 by The Bobby Fuller Four and covered by just about everyone since then.

16. “Get Over It,” by The Eagles.
Against the culture of grievance: “The big, bad world doesn’t owe you a thing.” There’s also this nice line: “I’d like to find your inner child and kick its little ass.”

17. “Stay Together for the Kids,” by Blink 182.
A eulogy for family values by an alt-rock band whose members were raised in a generation without enough of them: “So here’s your holiday / Hope you enjoy it this time / You gave it all away. . . . It’s not right.”

18. “Cult of Personality,” by Living Colour.
A hard-rocking critique of state power, whacking Mussolini, Stalin, and even JFK: “I exploit you, still you love me / I tell you one and one makes three / I’m the cult of personality.”

19. “Kicks,” by Paul Revere and the Raiders.
An anti-drug song that is also anti-utopian: “Well, you think you’re gonna find yourself a little piece of paradise / But it ain’t happened yet, so girl you better think twice.”

20. “Rock the Casbah,” by The Clash.
After 9/11, American radio stations were urged not to play this 1982 song, one of the biggest hits by a seminal punk band, because it was seen as too provocative. Meanwhile, British Forces Broadcasting Service (the radio station for British troops serving in Iraq) has said that this is one of its most requested tunes.

21. “Heroes,” by David Bowie.
A Cold War love song about a man and a woman divided by the Berlin Wall. No moral equivalence here: “I can remember / Standing / By the wall / And the guns / Shot above our heads / And we kissed / As though nothing could fall / And the shame / Was on the other side / Oh we can beat them / For ever and ever.”

22. “Red Barchetta,” by Rush.
In a time of “the Motor Law,” presumably legislated by green extremists, the singer describes family reunion and the thrill of driving a fast car — an act that is his “weekly crime.”

23. “Brick,” by Ben Folds Five.
Written from the perspective of a man who takes his young girlfriend to an abortion clinic, this song describes the emotional scars of “reproductive freedom”: “Now she’s feeling more alone / Than she ever has before. . . . As weeks went by / It showed that she was not fine.”

24. “Der Kommissar,” by After the Fire.
On the misery of East German life: “Don’t turn around, uh-oh / Der Kommissar’s in town, uh-oh / He’s got the power / And you’re so weak / And your frustration / Will not let you speak.” Also a hit song for Falco, who wrote it.

25. “The Battle of Evermore,” by Led Zeppelin.
The lyrics are straight out of Robert Plant’s Middle Earth period — there are lines about “ring wraiths” and “magic runes” — but for a song released in 1971, it’s hard to miss the Cold War metaphor: “The tyrant’s face is red.”

26. “Capitalism,” by Oingo Boingo.
“There’s nothing wrong with Capitalism / There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise. . . . You’re just a middle class, socialist brat / From a suburban family and you never really had to work.”

27. “Obvious Song,” by Joe Jackson.
For property rights and economic development, and against liberal hypocrisy: “There was a man in the jungle / Trying to make ends meet / Found himself one day with an axe in his hand / When a voice said ‘Buddy can you spare that tree / We gotta save the world — starting with your land’ / It was a rock ’n’ roll millionaire from the USA / Doing three to the gallon in a big white car / And he sang and he sang ’til he polluted the air / And he blew a lot of smoke from a Cuban cigar.”

28. “Janie’s Got a Gun,” by Aerosmith.
How the right to bear arms can protect women from sexual predators: “What did her daddy do? / It’s Janie’s last I.O.U. / She had to take him down easy / And put a bullet in his brain / She said ’cause nobody believes me / The man was such a sleaze / He ain’t never gonna be the same.”

29. “Rime of the Ancient Mariner,” by Iron Maiden.
A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge?

30. “You Can’t Be Too Strong,” by Graham Parker.
Although it’s not explicitly pro-life, this tune describes the horror of abortion with bracing honesty: “Did they tear it out with talons of steel, and give you a shot so that you wouldn’t feel?”

31. “Small Town,” by John Mellencamp.
A Burkean rocker: “No, I cannot forget where it is that I come from / I cannot forget the people who love me.”

32. “Keep Your Hands to Yourself,” by The Georgia Satellites.
An outstanding vocal performance, with lyrics that affirm old-time sexual mores: “She said no huggy, no kissy until I get a wedding vow.”

33. “You Can’t Always Get What You Want,” by The Rolling Stones.
You can “[go] down to the demonstration” and vent your frustration, but you must understand that there’s no such thing as a perfect society — there are merely decent and free ones.

34. “Godzilla,” by Blue цyster Cult.
A 1977 classic about a big green monster — and more: “History shows again and again / How nature points up the folly of men.”

35. “Who’ll Stop the Rain,” by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
Written as an anti–Vietnam War song, this tune nevertheless is pessimistic about activism and takes a dim view of both Communism and liberalism: “Five-year plans and new deals, wrapped in golden chains . . .”

36. “Government Cheese,” by The Rainmakers.
A protest song against the welfare state by a Kansas City band that deserved more success than it got. The first line: “Give a man a free house and he’ll bust out the windows.”

37. “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,” by The Band.
Despite its sins, the American South always has been about more than racism — this song captures its pride and tradition.

38. “I Can’t Drive 55,” by Sammy Hagar.
A rocker’s objection to the nanny state. (See also Hagar’s pro-America song “VOA.”)

39. “Property Line,” by The Marshall Tucker Band.
The secret to happiness, according to these southern-rock heavyweights, is life, liberty, and property: “Well my idea of a good time / Is walkin’ my property line / And knowin’ the mud on my boots is mine.”

40. “Wake Up Little Susie,” by The Everly Brothers.
A smash hit in 1957, back when high-school social pressures were rather different from what they have become: “We fell asleep, our goose is cooked, our reputation is shot.”

41. “The Icicle Melts,” by The Cranberries.
A pro-life tune sung by Irish warbler Dolores O’Riordan: “I don’t know what’s happening to people today / When a child, he was taken away . . . ’Cause nine months is too long.”

42. “Everybody’s a Victim,” by The Proclaimers.
Best known for their smash hit “I’m Gonna Be (500 Miles),” this Scottish band also recorded a catchy song about the problem of suspending moral judgment: “It doesn’t matter what I do / You have to say it’s all right . . . Everybody’s a victim / We’re becoming like the USA.”

43. “Wonderful,” by Everclear.
A child’s take on divorce: “I don’t wanna hear you say / That I will understand someday / No, no, no, no / I don’t wanna hear you say / You both have grown in a different way / No, no, no, no / I don’t wanna meet your friends / And I don’t wanna start over again / I just want my life to be the same / Just like it used to be.”

44. “Two Sisters,” by The Kinks.
Why the “drudgery of being wed” is more rewarding than bohemian life.

45. “Taxman, Mr. Thief,” by Cheap Trick.
An anti-tax protest song: “You work hard, you went hungry / Now the taxman is out to get you. . . . He hates you, he loves money.”

46. “Wind of Change,” by The Scorpions.
A German hard-rock group’s optimistic power ballad about the end of the Cold War and national reunification: “The world is closing in / Did you ever think / That we could be so close, like brothers / The future’s in the air / I can feel it everywhere / Blowing with the wind of change.”

47. “One,” by Creed. Against racial preferences: “Society blind by color / Why hold down one to raise another / Discrimination now on both sides / Seeds of hate blossom further.”

48. “Why Don’t You Get a Job,” by The Offspring.
The lyrics aren’t exactly Shakespearean, but they’re refreshingly blunt and they capture a motive force behind welfare reform.

49. “Abortion,” by Kid Rock.
A plaintive song sung by a man who confronts his unborn child’s abortion: “I know your brothers and your sister and your mother too / Man I wish you could see them too.”

50. “Stand By Your Man,” by Tammy Wynette.
Hillary trashed it — isn’t that enough? If you’re worried that Wynette’s original is too country, then check out the cover version by Motцrhead.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just saying it's another film in a long line of films that provide evidence that Woody Allen hates women.

Equating Woody Allen the man to his characters is a mistake. If he hated women, he wouldn't make movies about trying to understand his relationship to them.

What do you make of Hitchcock, Jenny?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just saying it's another film in a long line of films that provide evidence that Woody Allen hates women.

This is like saying that the scene in 8 1/2 where Mastroianni runs his own harem is a true reflection of how Fellini feels about women.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's not! You can tell -- you can TELL that WA has an uncomfortable relationship with women not only by watching a few of his movies but by observing his actual real life activities with actual real life women, which have NOT been exactly exemplary. There's not a sane person alive who doesn't find it at LEAST a little weird that he would find it alright to marry his adopted daughter. That's reason enough to believe that he has a troubled relationship with women.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I knew someone was going to bring that up. For the record, he's still with Soon-Yi. That seemed to work out okay for him. And it's none of my business, anyway.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

HERE ARE MY TOP 5 KING CRIMSON ALBUMS IF I STILL LISTENED TO KING CRIMSON, WHICH I DON'T:

1) Absent Lovers
2) Red
3) The Night Watch (Live 70s album)
4) Thrak
5) Discipline

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Who cares if they are still together? That's not really the point, is it?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Equating Woody Allen the man to his characters is a mistake.

You must be joking! I haven't seen all of his movies (by far) but every one he's been in that I've seen, he has played himself! I mean, Annie Hall contains bits of his actual stand-up that he performed as... Woody Allen. I think you have some good points, but to say that Woody Allen shouldn't be equated with Alvy is just... not true.

And I don't think the movies are about him trying to understand his relationship with women. I see them more as onanistic odes to his own greatness and victimization at the hands of dumb and/or bitchy females who just don't understand him.

Again, I'm obviously only judging the ones I've seen, and most of what I'm saying applies to Annie Hall and Manhattan (I think Match Point stayed with the "WA hates women" theme, but obviously he wasn't in it in the same way he was in AH and Manhattan)(and I've seen others but it's been years so I'm not in a good place to debate them with you without a review). And I'm not opposed to seeing more WA movies. He's made like a bazillion of them, so I'm sure I would enjoy some.

Who cares what I make of Hitchcock (unless you want to start an entirely independent conversation)? We're talking about Woody Allen.

And as for Fellini, bringing up 8 1/2 as a way to defend WA's misogyny is... an odd choice.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm doing... this a lot.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

to say that Woody Allen shouldn't be equated with Alvy is just... not true.

He uses his characters as examples of behaviors that he recognizes in himself, as all the big auteurs do. That does not equal a 1-to-1 ratio, and it's a mistake to assume so.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I am curious how his actual real-life relationships with women are not sufficient proof that he has a troubled relationship with them. Whether they are still together or not is totally irrelevant to the fact that they are together at all, that he thought that was OK in the first place.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

And as for Fellini, bringing up 8 1/2 as a way to defend WA's misogyny is... an odd choice.

Maybe so. I'm more interested in the Hitchcock question, anyway.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Guido is no women's libber, but he's not Fellini in the way Alvy is Woody Allen. For one, Guido is played by Marcello Mastroianni, not Fellini himself. For two, Woody Allen's career as a comedian is based on his neurotic personality archetype, which he then took and put into movies. If Fellini had been doing one-man shows where he stood up and talked about how sad it is that he's a rich man with a lovely wife and a mistress who doesn't seem to respect him... well then you'd have a better comparison.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Whether they are still together or not is totally irrelevant to the fact that they are together at all, that he thought that was OK in the first place.

We don't really know what went on there. Seems like Woody likes younger women, and Mia is the Crazy Cat Lady of adopted children. There's more grey area than people acknowledge.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

If Fellini had been doing one-man shows where he stood up and talked about how sad it is that he's a rich man with a lovely wife and a mistress who doesn't seem to respect him...

haha Fellini as Rodney Dangerfield

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot talk about this anymore without becoming enraged. "Likes younger women" -- there are plenty of young women out there who are not in his family.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking of the scene in Deconstructing Harry (which you should all see) where his wife (Kirstie Alley) is a therapist, and finds out he's been dating one of his patients. His defense is, "What? We never go out, you're working all the time, who would I meet?" And through clenched teeth she says, "Are you accusing me of never taking you out so you can meet other women to fuck?"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'll have to think about the Hitchcock question. But initially, I think he's from a different, pre-women's lib era and I tend to take movies made before the mid-70s with a grain of salt, feminism-wise. I also tend to go into Hitchcock movies assuming that women are going to be poorly treated/portrayed and just enjoy the suspense and craft of his filmmaking (Dial M for Murder being a good example). And for me his movies are about the suspense, with the women stuff being more incidental.

Woody Allen, on the other hand, makes movies about his relationships with women. Even Match Point, which to me is more about a young man struggling to navigate his way through the demands of the women in his life (by shooting one and getting away with it) than an actual supsense/thriller. It was too boring to be a good thriller, anyway. (Okay that last bit was a low blow, but I really hated Match Point, in part because I found it deadly boring. I would have forgiven a lot of the baby harpy crap if it had been a better movie, suspense-wise.)

But I could probably work up a ten-page feminist polemic on Alfred Hitchcock, if you really cared. I'll even expand it into his impact on modern thriller/suspense and make it 20 pages.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how I feel about equating Woody Allen, the dude, with his movies.

I usually fall on the side of separating art from the artist, i.e. I accept that Michael Jackson is fucked up but it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the music. But on the other hand, MJ isn't making movies about his relationship with kids and his family, so it's a lot easier to do that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Woody Allen, on the other hand, makes movies about his relationships with women.

Vertigo isn't really about anything except that way Hitch uses and manipulates women. And it's dark as hell. And self-hating as all get-out. And bloody brilliant.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Deconstructing Harry (which you should all see) where his wife (Kirstie Alley) is a therapist, and finds out he's been dating one of his patients.

I'll air the tiniest bit of dirty laundry to say that in this movie, WA sounds a bit too much like my biological father me to be the least bit objective about it. This would not be the movie to win me over to the WA cannon.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

But on the other hand, MJ isn't making movies about his relationship with kids and his family, so it's a lot easier to do that.
That is what I am trying to say, but Jordan said it better.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Count Notorious, too, as a Hitch movie that's really not about anything except his fucked-up relationships.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

This would not be the movie to win me over to the WA cannon.

Oh, people hate this movie. It's shrill and bitter and... christ... what a bile-filled little movie.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I love it to pieces.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think the big divide is, again, Hitchcock (who appears in some way in all his movies), isn't playing the main character, who very strongly resembles himself in real life, in all his movies.

There might be some fantasy element of Hitchcock wishing her were Jimmy Stewart (and who wouldn't?) but there's definitely a lot more distance between Hitchcock and his leading men and Woody Allen and, well, himself.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'll bet we can all agree that Marcell Mastroianni is a very, very handsome man.

http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/stars/m/marcello_mastroianni.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yum.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's one of his Bergman women.

You're right, of course, but I was using "typical" w/r/t Jenny's belief that all of Woody's women are either bitches or daffy ditzes.

Jenny's right, however, that Deconstructing Harry is not the movie to win anyone over. Talk about shrill whiny bitches: Kirstie Alley in that movie is the definition of that. The whole movie kinda grated on me, and the only reason I grudgingly accept that it might be good is my friend Chris's spirited defense as we left the theater (although to be honest, I don't remember much of what he said).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think the big divide is, again, Hitchcock (who appears in some way in all his movies), isn't playing the main character

I don't see why that should make such a difference. In other movies (Bullets Over Broadway comes to mind) there's a Woody surrogate. He always writes himself into his movies, but who doesn't?

I'll bet we can all agree that Marcell Mastroianni is a very, very handsome man.

Good lord yes. I'm gay for him.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Talk about shrill whiny bitches

???

She has every reason in the world to be shrill! And there's no whining in that movie. Just a lot of screaming.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is Bullets Over Broadway good? Because I can't quite imagine John Cusack as a Woody surrogate, or anything other than John Cusack, really.

I mean, he plays neurotic assholes too, so I guess it makes sense, but he's as charming as Woody...isn't.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's great. It's a backstage comedy per excellence.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Just a lot of screaming.

Eh. It's also been 8 years since I saw it.

Is Bullets Over Broadway good?

It is! But Cusack takes a backseat to all of the wonderful supporting performances in that film: Chazz Palminteri, Dianne Wiest, Jennifer Tilly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

PAR

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Manhatten:Manhattan::per excellence:par excellence

XPOST HAHA

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jim Broadbent!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me, my mom made me watch Manhattan sometime in high school. That's...weird, isn't it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

He's in that? I had no idea. I feel like I was only made aware of him when I saw Mike Leigh's Life is Sweet. But then I haven't seen Bullets Over Broadway in like TWELVE years, so.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

IMDB "memorable quotes" from Bullets Over Broadway are cracking me up.

Diane Weist: "You stand on the brink of greatness. The world will open to you like an oyster. No... not like an oyster. The world will open to you like a magnificent vagina."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I became aware of Jim Broadbent until Moulin Rouge.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Blah blah blah movies.

Sorry, I've had a trying morning.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

You're probably not alone in that, Jordan. 2001 was kind of his breakout year, since that's also when he won Best Supporting Actor for Iris.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, sorry Dan. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

6. “Gloria,” by U2.

I was going through the list and mentally playing a clip of each one, and when I got to this one I missed "U2" so I as playing "Gloria, I think he's got your number/I think he's got the alias/that you've been living under/...calling GLORIAAAAAA"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Each one of us could (and should - it would be a fun to read) make up a one-page summary of a movie in which the protagonist - who is not us, per se, but manifests our own distinct pathologies and neuroses - goes through a week in which those pathologies are in full bloom and have consequences, for worse and (for irony's sake) for better. Issues with food, alcohol, the opposite sex, compulsions - whatever is us at our individual worst would go into this main character.

It would be fun and maybe cathartic to write a movie like this. That's what Woody Allen does, I think. That's what something like Bad Lieutenant is, and Sideways for sure, and what most of those middle-aged-guys-on-a-bender stories are, including Deconstructing Harry (eh) and Sweet and Lowdown. I would certainly read a middle-aged-woman-on-a-bender novel or see that movie as well, as long as the bender isn't just putting stones in one's pockets.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/stars/m/marcello_mastroianni.jpg

See, I don't think he's handsome simply because he looks like Michael J. Fox in that picture. No, wait. He looks like Alex P. Keaton.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Each one of us could (and should - it would be a fun to read) make up a one-page summary of a movie in which the protagonist - who is not us, per se, but manifests our own distinct pathologies and neuroses - goes through a week in which those pathologies are in full bloom and have consequences

Oh lord. I don't think that if I took my neuroses and pathologies to their logical conclusions I'd make it through the whole week.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

(My folks took me to see Manhattan when I was about 9 years old - and I remember being absolutely bored to tears after being excited that they were taking me to an R-rated movie. I remember particularly looking back at the projection booth at the end of each reel to see the next reel start in a different window - I'd probably just learned about the little circle in the corner at the end of each reel of film. Afterwards, I told my mom how bored I was, and she said that some movies are rated R because kids will be bored.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nice to way to bring things full circle, EZ.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

EZ at Manhattan = me at Howards End and Unforgiven

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Did you hear about my baby? She come around,
She come round here, her head to the ground?
Come round here just about midnight,
She makes me feel so good, make me feel all right.
She come round my street, now
She come to my house
Knock upon my door
Climbing up my stairs - one, two, three
Come on baby
Here she is in my room, oh boy
Hey what's your name?
How old are you?
Where'd you go to school?
Well, now that we know each other a little bit better,
Why don't you come over here and make me feel all right!

[Chorus:]
Gloria - g-l-o-r-i-a
Gloria - g-l-o-r-i-a
Gloria - g-l-o-r-i-a
Gloria - g-l-o-r-i-a

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

she said that some movies are rated R because kids will be bored

haha

Yeah, why is that movie rated R? "Adult themes"?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

All I remember about Manhattan is the scene where they're in bed and she's all "What's your fantasy? Let's do something you've always wanted to do but never have," etc. You know, when I was watching it with my mom.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, why is that movie rated R? "Adult themes"?

Adults whose theme is high school girls

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Diane Weist: "You stand on the brink of greatness. The world will open to you like an oyster. No... not like an oyster. The world will open to you like a magnificent vagina."

Something about this quote and Kenan's choice of it supports my contention, but I've just discovered that one of the legal talents I'm expected to display while working here is MIND READING the facts of an issue out of an attorney's head, so I'm plunged back into non-stop no-win work hell and can't talk about Woody Allen on the internet anymore.

Goodbye forever.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Again, I have a worse story. Watching Robin Williams do stand-up with my mom, and he did six minutes about viagra and super-copious ejaculation. Neither of us would get up to turn it off; we were just sort of both forzen, half-smiles on our faces, horrified beyond the ability to move.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, convenient, Jenny ;-)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Something about this quote and Kenan's choice of it supports my contention

Hm. I think I may be offended. In fact, I'm sure of it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

NOOOOOOO, JENNNNNNNYYYYYYYY!
Hi.

I am starving. I get to leave at noon today.

Ok, so in nonWoody news, every once in a while I wake up at night and think someone is trying to break into the apartment. It's just something I do. So this morning around 4am I jumped out of bed. I heard this noise that I could swear was someone drilling to break in through a window. Then it stopped. I walked around. It started again. Eventually, Nick woke up and was like, Oh it's just a text message. It was otto saying he was fucked up. Then I couldn't fall back to sleep. THE END.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

That's okay, all of you whose numbers I have are getting fux0red txts at some point! Hi, everybody. I have scanned the movie stuff but honestly can't work up any feeling about it. I think I prefer to avoid the issue of WA forever except for referencing funny lines like "That's okay, I'll call a cab from here."

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I do that same thing, Sarah, but wake up feeling that someone already broke into my room and made off with a guitar or computer or credit cards and just left...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and Kenan, I'm at all concerened about the CD! Only that it might have been lost. But don't overthink it, okay? And look who that advice is coming from, so SRSLY DUDE.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

s/b: NOT AT ALL CONCERNED

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

"That's okay, I'll call a cab from here."

"We can walk to the curb from here."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I understand, Laurel.

Sorry, I'm busy fuming a little at Jenny for... well, can I say the words "knee-jerk" and have her ever speak to me ever again? Too late.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

If I wake up, it's because of cats. The other night, the retarded cat SCREAMED in this horrible way that I never want to hear again, this high-pitched "EHHHHHHHH". I bolted up and he was under a chair, with the two other cats surrounding him. They wouldn't hurt him (for the most part), but he doesn't know how to interact with other cats and gets threatened easily.

This morning he woke me up by poking me in the head repeatedly.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

(Happy birthday, Laurel! I'll be in NYC June 11-13, playing on the 11th at Pete's in W-burg. So maybe you could make it to the show, or we could have noontime Pret A Manger or whatever is good for a lunch hour.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Usually Nick gets those messages from Jesse or John.

Do you run to look out the window, Eazy, or just look for everything of value and make sure it's still there?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, K, I know. You know I can do it, too (which, sorry about that) but us mercurial types like to think it's all part of our charm. You're welcome to disagree, no one will ever force you to date one of us!

EZ: totes! Will plan on making a show.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, I go looking for my stuff - I'm barely-half-awake and opening the guitar case to see if the guitar is there, or going through my pockets to see if the credit cards are there - whatever it is I think got stolen. It happened a few nights ago for the first time since moving into the new place - but at my old place I would go through phases of doing it nightly for a week or two.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I have drunk-texted Nick? Huh.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I sometimes have a brief second when I think someone's breaking in -- especially when the windows are open, and I can hear people coming in and out of the dozens of other apartments in the vicinity -- but I think I fear bodily harm way more than theft.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

You're welcome to disagree, no one will ever force you to date one of us!

haha I know. I think if I ever dated Jenny, the landlord would be scrubbing blood off the floor. Mine, most likely.

*deep breath*

I like Jenny. I like her a whole helluva lot.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

After much debate and rankling, I think one thing that we can all agree on is that Woody Allen is not a mysogynist, and his movies are free from misogyny.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jesse should star in a Woody Allen film.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

lolz

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.degeneratie.nl/domein/22/images/quagga.jpg

Quagga, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck, I keep substituting italics tags for img src tags.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to get my hair cut off.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'M GOING TO GET MY HAIR CUT OFF.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ilportaledelcavallo.it/razze_mondo/images/quagga.jpg

Quagga, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Are you depressed, Jesse.

That quagga is hung like a quagga.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://members.cox.net/sjrohde4/images/books_m/melville_moby_dell5710.jpg

Queequeg, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

This is silly. I was happier when I was angry.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

XPOST TO SARAH-- NO, AND HA HA.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I JUST NEED A HAIRCUT BAD BAD.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.buffalographics.net/Images/selleck.jpg

Quigley, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

After much debate and rankling, I think one thing that we can all agree on is that Woody Allen is a mysogynist, and his movies are free from his misogyny.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Judy: Couldn't you like me, just me the way I am? When we first started out, it was so good; w-we had fun. And... and then you started in on the clothes. Well, I'll wear the darn clothes if you want me to, if, if you'll just, just like me.
Scottie: The color of your hair...
Judy: Oh, no!
Scottie: Judy, please, it can't matter to you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit it can't matter to you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.robertwhite.com/cgi-local/images/weather/quahog.jpg

Quahog, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

What is that from?

John! You are CRACKING! ME! UP!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

That's from Vertigo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

So, last night I met this girl who kept dropping hip band names like crazy. And then when we got into her car, she was like, "So are you into Spankrock or no??" Spankrock sounds fucking awesome turned up really loud in a car stereo. I recommend it.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I've been meaning to check them out.

Wait, why did you get in this strange girl's car??

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

It's ok! I met her on the internets.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Internets people are creepy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I used to be in a James Brown tribute band called Spank.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.familyguyfun.com/images/quagmire.gif

Quagmire, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, there's plenty of quagmire to go around.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gdasika/comics/ziggy/zi020809.gif

Ziggy, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

That's a pretty funny Ziggy, FWIW.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

It is both funny and sad to me that I recognize links between John's Q-pleases. Stupid Family Guy.

AND NOW HE BREAKS THE PATTERN. What, no Quince? Quincy?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

All my Qs also had Gs in them. I couldn't think of any others. Btw, I have no idea who that Family Guy dude is, but when I GIS'd "quagmire" it was like 2/3 of the images that came up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

The town they live in is Quahog. I bow my head in shame.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://imagesource2.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/Regular/10102000/10102249.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.earthlinkpestmanagement.com/images/adult%20chigger.jpg
Chigger, please!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.gamesfolder.com/images/digger/shot_2.jpg
Digger, please!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~pinky_laidie/Dennis

Jenga, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://dorando.emuverse.com/images/dig-dug_01.png

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

OMG

http://homepage2.nifty.com/sss-xan/sss/SSS_069D.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

After the commercial where Christopher Reeve walked, the Onion had an infographic about other commercials that were in the making. The one that made me roffle was "Muhammed Ali wins at Jenga."

xpost

what the fucking fuck.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

After the initial shock and confusion has work off --

HOLY SHIT ROFFLE

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of Silkworm cover art.

SHIT! THat's the digger screen shot I was looking for! I don't know what game I posted. I used to love that shit.
I'm cursing alot because I'm leaving in FIVE MINUTES!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

JESUS CHRIST IS THAT DIGDUG FAN-PR0N

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

And with that, I'm outta here.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

That is my new desktop background.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. I don't about y'all, but that ruins MY childhood.

Have a good weekend, Sarah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of desktop backgrounds... props to joygoat for this one: http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~jlkuure/dumb/vs.png

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the Digdug whatever.

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/ziggurat.gif

Ziggurat, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

"Why would I have played Dig Dug?"

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

ohttp://www.virtualgaz.co.uk/updateoct04/vids%20-%20cheats%20and%20feats/Mr%20Do/999.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.zentral.com.cn/images/zagat.gif

Zagat, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.markethallfoods.com/images/medium/montelimar_nougat_MED.jpg

Nougat, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

(Oops. That's from Mr. Do - an improvement on Dig Dug. You can still play it at the Candlelite at Touhy and Western (great food too).)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/chatter/mailbag/nugent.jpg

Nugent, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, John, you know what? Stop it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

That Zentral Healthy Eatery sounds good - too bad it's in...China?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/pg2/2005/1212/photo/g_issel_195.jpg

Nugget, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Besides, that's not Nugent. THIS is Nugent.

http://randywatkins.com/L-signed-Nugent.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.katrinahelp.com/ray-nagin.jpg

Nagin, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.uncledirtae.com/blog/images/sagat.gif

Sagat, please.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

How is that not Nugent? Anyway, the one you posted has his name on the image, thus destroying the humor of the caption.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.laughmachine.com/images/Bios/B/bob_saget.jpg

Saget, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Have you had too much sugar this morning?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Ted Nugent is on a new reality show on VH1 with Scott Ian of Anthrax, Jason Bohham, Sebastian Bach, and the bass player from Biohazard. They have to start a new band, write songs, and play a show in like 2 weeks time. That is the entire point of the show. Oh, and them being giant rockstar assholes.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

the one you posted has his name on the image, thus destroying the humor of the caption.

Yeah, but the Crazy-Eyez Killah value is immeasurable.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Ted Nugent is on a new reality show on VH1 with Scott Ian of Anthrax, Jason Bohham, Sebastian Bach, and the bass player from Biohazard.

THIS SOUNDS FUCKING AWESOME.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's the idea that if a man reaches a certain level of power or greatness, he'll be greeted with open vaginas. Regardless of the character of the man, or the type of acts he performed to rise to power, and regardless of the personal tastes or views of the women who are actually attached to these vaginas. Just, man greatness = open vaginas.

The fact that you picked that quote, Kenan, proves your point about the funny. You find that quote funny. I find it weird and misguided. You like Woody Allen movies. I (so far, but I'm willing to keep trying), don't.

I like Jenny. I like her a whole helluva lot.

You don't have to like me at all, Kenan; certainly not if to win your affection I have to start liking Woody Allen movies.

xpost:

1. HAPPY FUCKING BIRTHDAY, LAUREL! You totally rock.
2. The "_____, please" line of posting has me rofflin' at my lonely little desk.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.historia-del-arte.net/Links-ARTE/Concurso/2001/madame_x.jpg

Sargent, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

You don't have to like me at all, Kenan

Tough tooties.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/MIMap-doton-Saginaw.PNG

Saginaw, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's the idea that if a man reaches a certain level of power or greatness, he'll be greeted with open vaginas.

Oh for the love of Pete, what are you, Camile Paglia alluvasudden?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

There is a phantom island just off the northwest coast of the Keweenaw in that MI map that troubles me. And I'm not talking about Isle Royale.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Men of power get to INFLATE vaginas. Obv.

http://homepage2.nifty.com/sss-xan/sss/SSS_069D.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.musichallsf.com/artist_pages/sufjan_stevens.jpg

Sufjan, please.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

SO HOT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Camille Paglia? Gross. How about Catherine McKinnon?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Catharine, I mean.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://candles.genwax.com/candle_style_scents/eggnog.jpg

Eggnog, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

And assuming you cited Camille Paglia to pick a someone representative of a feminist who "over-analyizes" pop culture to a fault, I must ask. How can you like me as much as you claim, since you clearly don't know me very well.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://gallery.rei.com/media/705253_9996Prd.jpg

Toboggan, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Camille Paglia? Gross.

I know. Trying to be unflattering on purpose.

I think I may owe you a drink for all this hoo-hah.

How can you like me as much as you claim, since you clearly don't know me very well.

At this point, I'm just picking on you. And not that I want to debate this point, but it's entirely possible to like someone without having absorbed the nuances of their politics. I like Jenny. It's a fact.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Jenny -- I don't think you and Paglia would have the same opinion on this issue at all, but with the "open vagina" line, there's a similarity in the focus on power and on sexual imagery as mythic or iconic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Kenan, I know. Love, Jenny.

Toboggan, please.

Okay, now you're just getting silly.

xpost to jmc - word.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

http://ljconstantine.com/blog/ww05/images/tigger.jpg height=320 width=240>

Tigger, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Why didn't my shrinky-shrink work?

Okay, now you're just getting silly.

"Getting"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am no longer amused.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Finally.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

It was a good run, John. I very good run.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

A very good run, too!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

To be honest, Kenan, when you told me to stop, it made it even funnier!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Shut up, Jon.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of people actually named Jon, I forgot to say:

Thanks JVC, for your nice words about "S.D.C."! It's sort of amazing to me because I wrote that keyboard part while dicking around on this cheap Casio while visiting friends in San Diego, and now it's being listened to around the world.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I could punch someone right in the gut right now.

1) ComEd fucking stood me up
2) I sat in a piece of someone's fucking disgusting chewing gum at lunch.

I am enraged.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Amanda! I'm sorry for both of those things. Especially the gum, though. Nast-ay.

I was just reading the Wikipedia article on Camille Paglia and in reference to her college years, a friend says that "she wore pants in a very aggressive way."

All I can think that means is that she pulled them up really really high.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Or ran around grabbing people's heads, pushing their faces towards her inseam, yelling, "Look at my pants! LOOK AT THEM!!!!"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

I was a fan of Camille Paglia ca. 1998.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

That pretty much describes what I just did with my pants. I have a piece of gum marking the middle of my butt.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Minus the head-pushing.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that rich, powerful, let's say ugly guys of dubious morals are entitled to get lucky, but it's hard to argue that they aren't greeted by gals who are attracted to that sort of thing.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/tv2/programmes/the_sopranos/james_gandolfini_one_d.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm breaking my silence to show some solidarity for Jenny, plus link to this article/interview with Catharine MacKinnon on the state of feminism today.

At this point, I'm just picking on you.

What a surprise. Shut up Kenan.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

WoooOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Easy - Sure. And women have been known to marry incarcerated serial killers. And men have been known to fall in love with some real bitches.

Dave! Hey!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

And men have been known to fall in love with some real bitches.

OTM

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hey!

― regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Or ran around grabbing people's heads, pushing their faces towards her inseam, yelling, "Look at my pants! LOOK AT THEM!!!!"

That's exactly what happened. I've heard stories. Also, the annoying girl who had a Freudian explanation for every statue on campus.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that rich, powerful, let's say ugly guys of dubious morals are entitled to get lucky, but it's hard to argue that they aren't greeted by gals who are attracted to that sort of thing.

What is this in reference to, exactly?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Since when is Dave the new Capt'n Sava-a-Feminist?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

WOOOOOooOOOOoOOOOOOOOOOO

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, you guys -- even if you hate Liz Armstrong, you should read this week's Chicago Anti-Social, as she tears into the depressingly popular notion that marriage constitutes the death of fun for men.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Oh, stop it. This is not a Broadway production of Grease, and you are not an extra.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Also: FREE PIZZA IN THE OFFICE!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to read that entire article you linked but this has my hackles up:

"...the late Andrea Dworkin, the anti-pornography crusader whose outsize “feminazi” appearance in baggy dungarees was the cause of a great deal of mirth and endless sexist jokes.

MacKinnon, in contrast, is lithe and stylish and loves wearing Nicole Farhi."

So MacKinnon is more worth listening to? Sheesh.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's more like the Jerry Springer show. xposts

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

WOOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOOOooOOOOO.

-Thanks Dan

xpost, yeah the writer has a clear bias against even MacKinnon by the end. It's kind of weird because of how editorial it starts to get.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Oh, stop it. This is not a Broadway production of Grease, and you are not an extra.

Ouch, Kenan. I'm not even sure what that means. Are you implying that he's Danny Zucco?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

What is this in reference to, exactly?

Referring to Jenny's post about powerful men and open v's way above, but what I wrote was probably tangential to her post as a response to the Woody Allen joke.

Good article from Dave. I liked that Reader article, too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

the depressingly popular notion

Cartoons in Playboy magazine (or, god forbid, Hustler) -- definite NAY. Outdated, dull, stupid. Reason I'm not married -- not because I'm afraid the fun will end. Frankly, I'm at an age where the fun is long over anyway. The problem seems to be with the equation itself, rather than whatever answer you come up with for it. Why would you assume an outdated stereotype and then rail against it? Who th'fuck cares?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not even sure what that means.

Only that a stage production of Grease requires a lot of background dudes to go "OOOOoooooo" all the time.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

You think that's outdated? You don't hear ordinary men make jokes about that kind of thing all the time? I do. Anyway, if you actually READ THE ARTICLE, you'd see that it starts out as a review of this book (note May 2006 pub date).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

See, I wasn't kidding when I said "Jerry Springer Show" -- it's like when the two potential babydaddys are arguing back and forth before the reveal, and with each insult the Woooooo from the audience grows more awed and tense.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

True. I'll read that Reader column.

"And since I gone to a cell for some petty crimes
I guess I gone to the well one too many times, cause I'm gone."

― regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, if you actually READ THE ARTICLE

My (very common) bad

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

the depressingly popular notion that marriage constitutes the death of fun for men.

It's interesting, especially in light of the depressingly popular notion that women's main goal should be to find and secure a man to marry. You end up setting up this false dichotomy that women should chase, and men must run, and nobody seems able to understand that when two people love each other very much, marriage is like totally excellent for all parties involved.

Double interesting when you look at the fact that married men are on average healthier than unmarried men, but married women have a higher rate of depression than unmarried women. (Just in case I need to say this, I don't think that men cause depression in women - I think societally proscribed gender roles that can come to the forefront when women enter into heterosexual marriages do. Men are great! Insofar as people are great. Which is generally not that great. But I digress.)

Anyway, is the article in yesterday's reader? I'll check it out.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, the Reader now puts the column up on its site in non-PDF format! Here ya go.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, is this online? It isn't is it?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh. xpost

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

If getting married is so emasculating, why do it? I asked them. Or why marry a woman like that? Why have kids? Why shop at Old Navy?

For a split second they got a hopeful twinkle in their eyes like, Holy shit, what distant land did you come from?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, as for "marriage = dud for men jokes," well, they're common enough outside our enlightened circle of pals, I fear. One of (my favorite, even) attorneys here makes jokes CONSTANTLY about coming to work to escape the incessant nagging of his wife. It's like, yeah, okay, leave the bitch if it's so damn bad. Sheesh.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you assume an outdated stereotype and then rail against it?

xpost - Armstong is writing about a publicity party for a 500-things-every-man-must-do-before-he-gets-married book -- and the way the PR works for a book like this is to assume it's a phenomenon, this idea that guys want to do all these things (not just sexual but adventurous) before getting married. Sounds like a Red Eye cover story, and Liz A. is taking on the book, not the idea that even a lot of guys buy into this.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

You end up setting up this false dichotomy that women should chase, and men must run

I think it's actually that women must chase men, and men must chase other women.

married men are on average healthier than unmarried men

People who believe in God are on average healthier than people who do not. If we're citing empty stats, shouldn't you go to church every once in a while?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Em Gee - as soon as I can finish my work I am so leaving here. Anyone else planning on going to the G@per's Bl0ck party at the Hideout tonight?

xpost: I hate books like that. How the fuck do they know what I want to do with my life?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like a Red Eye cover story

OTMFM

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

(Tonight's the Hideout party? Maybe maybe. I'm heading out now too.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Lucky ducks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

married men are on average healthier than unmarried men

Also, married men tend to eat better. I don't date for the food, but goddamnit if I don't eat a whole lot better when there's a woman in my life. Girls are really good at taking care of dumb-ass men.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://americansweets.up.seesaa.net/image/nutterbutter3.jpg

Nutter Butter, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

People who believe in God are on average healthier than people who do not. If we're citing empty stats, shouldn't you go to church every once in a while?

Eh? I'm just saying that societal conventions about marriage aren't backed up by studies that have compared health and longevity of married and unmarried men.

xpost - maybe they are healthier because they eat better.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Dick Lit

Ad execs Michael and Tim Burke have conveniently catalogued all the creepy shit every guy should try to get away with before he marries the harpy who’s destined to emasculate him."

OMG I love this article already.

As for parties, etc., Courtney (yes THE Courtney) is coming to town TONIGHT so, I dunno. Anybody want to hang out with Courtney?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I want to know if "use a dishtowl to wipe spilled soup off the floor and then hang it back up like nothing happened" is on the list of things guys have to do before they get married.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in the position of deciding how much I should be cleaning up after the gals I live with.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

We have a 33-gallon trashcan and they switch out the bag, leaving the full bag at the top of the stairs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

My experience has taught me that messiness knows no gender. You have neat freaks like Kenan and then you have slobs like Kelsey's old roommate Br00ke.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

(Not judging: I can be kind of a slob sometimes, too.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you should get a smaller trash can so they can't claim that 33-gallon bags are too heavy? Also then ya'll can take out the trash more often and avoid trashy stink house.

OTM re the realities of who is and isn't neat. Another societal gender contstruct not born out by reality!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I want to hang out with Courtney. But mostly I want to fight with Jenny. I suppose I can put than on the back burner, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

We can do both, Kenan! Courtney and I have been friends for a long time. She's used to watching me fight.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

But mostly I want to fight with Jenny.

Haha, I signed onto AIM last night for the first time in a couple months and told Laurel I'd only come on to pick a fight. (This was after I'd read the Noise Board.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

So get off your fat ass, broheim. Pull your dick out of the damn video game and stick it in some sweet honey in Rio de Janeiro! Go spend Saint Patrick’s Day puking in Dublin! Run with the bulls in Pamplona! Get the clap in Vegas! Because someday real soon you will be married to some ballbuster obsessed with housewares who makes you do yard work and shop for khakis in strip malls and perform other lame, soul-crushing duties for the rest of your life.

Who is this woman and will she marry me?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Because someday real soon you will be married to some ballbuster obsessed with housewares who makes you do yard work and shop for khakis in strip malls and perform other lame, soul-crushing duties for the rest of your life.

BwaAHAHAHAHAhaha

xpost

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

What is that from?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and BTW, I was laughing because that;s fucking retarded, not because I agree and think it's funnycauseitstrue.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Motherfucker! As soon as I discover I can leave when my work is done then A BUNCH MORE WORK GOES SPLAT ON MY DESK.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Run with the bulls in Pamplona!

Hey, did you see City Slickers? Please go do all the most obvious white-guy mid-life things you can think of. And please, please, for the love of all that is good in the world, die doing them.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Also, she spelled "broheem" wrong, I think.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Or is that supposed to be German?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

What is that from?

THE FUCKING READER ARTICLE OMG.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.frankbellacompany.com/bellachair.gif

Naugahyde, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I am hard at work as well. It's hot as hell in here.

What are you dudes doing for the long weekend?

Tonight = Bratfest and X-Men!

Tomorrow = wedding gig, but I get to try out my shiny drum.

Sunday and Monday = no plans?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Haha Jenny, you rule.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan! I eagery anticipate hearing your feelings on X-Men 3.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I will report back!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Holy thread on fire!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

If the Mapquest print-out by the printer is any indication, someone in my office is going to a show at PROP THTR tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hormel.com/images/glossary/n/nectar_peach.jpg

Nectar, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

AHHHH MY MIND'S EYE HAS BEEN BLINDED

I founded out that a co-worker who I know (and like) slept with another co-worker who I know (and don't like). They each have significant others, but it's all out in the open, apparently.

Also, one co-worker bears a certain resemblance to http://images.quizilla.com/C/curehalo/1038548868_Amike.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Did we do this yet?

http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/pictures/zing_01.jpg , please!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ewtWj_Wa8pgphM:tommy-magazin.de/spiele/..%255Cimg%255CHarbinger%2520g.jpg

Harbinger, please!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ralaweb.com/gallery/knitter.gif

Knitter, please!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

GIMME MY / GIMME MY / YULETIDE DATSUN
I WANT IT SO BAD / YULETIDE DATSUN
THE BEST CAR I EVER HAD /
AND WHEN I DROVE IT WAY BACK WHEN
I MADE METAPHORICAL LOVE TO SUN YAT-SEN.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.gratuitouslylongdomainname.net/PhotoGallery/Ninja%20(Sais).jpg , please!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

(At work this is sort of a catch-phrase)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/injun.1.gif

Injun, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://free.ocxxx.com/pics/penisp/ppal_tgp_2/images/16.jpg, please.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.royrogers.com/images/trigger-jr.jpg

Trigger, please!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I'm going to stuff you into the knitter's niche.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005B234.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg , please!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.gesund-vital-online.de/UserFiles/Image/Gesundheit/Allgemein/swiffer.jpg ,please.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it...penispallooza, please?

(did you know that lollapalooza is an olde Englishe worde meaning the beste of the beste?)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.truckworld.com/Monster-Trucks/Monsters-Monthly/2000-june/gravedigger.jpg, please

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

(I drew the line at posting an image-bearing "spina bifida, please"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it...penispallooza, please?

But naugahyde, please makes perfect sense to you?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

it starts with an N and has a G in the middle followed by a schwa sound.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

KEEP TRYING KENAN.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, i had a totally sweet post all lined up but i got fuled, again.

ABSTRACT:

JENNY RULES, KENAN DROOLZ, WA IS THAT SPECIAL BRAND OF MISOGYNIST THAT WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT HE'S A CONNOISSEUR OF WOMEN. CREPEY!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I GOT ALL MY HAIR CUT OFF.

xpost--crepey? http://www.foodvancouver.com/cafe-crepe3.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

"SCHWAAAAAA" is the sound double-long busses make.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I love crepes. And Evan.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.beststuff.co.uk/images/wahl_super_taper_2000.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.beststuff.co.uk/hair_clippers.htm&h=259&w=160&sz=11&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=652wJ61gLF3ZhM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=66&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dclippers%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

and

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:FQ_yyEsq5yNK3M:i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2006/05/23/suns.clippers.ap/p1_nash-getty.jpg

and

http://www.246.dk/Pcsark-1.jpg

all of you, PLEASE!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

broken image, lay-up, ship?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

(THAT FIRST IMAGE WAS: http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:_JekRDNhy9mjaM:scissors.razor-scissors.com/electric_hair_clippers_products/RFC-288-10.jpg)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

inscrutable!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

meh, the second image could have been clearer. A for idea, C for execution.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:FnLI5WLPglg9AM:www.carflag.com/images/sport%2520teams%2520product%27s%2520pics/NBA/Los%2520Angeles%2520Clippers/clippers%2520flag%2520copy.gif

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

I REALLY NEED TO GO GET THE GROCERIES now.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8289/wicket.jpg

Wicket, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

JENNY RULES, KENAN DROOLZ, WA IS THAT SPECIAL BRAND OF MISOGYNIST THAT WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT HE'S A CONNOISSEUR OF WOMEN. CREPEY!

You really do fit in on the noise board, don't you? "Special brand of misogynist" that knows more girls than you do? Eat dick, dorkface.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

WooooOOOOoooOOOoooOOOOOOOOOooo

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I couldn't resist

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

1. It took me a second, too, but "special brand of misogynist" refers to "WA" = Woody Allen. Not you, Kenan.

2. But still: how do you know how many girls Evan knows? That's weird. And even if you did know more girls, why would that make you less of a misogynist than he is? "Some of my best friends" etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I HAVE KNOWNT MORE GURLS

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

No one is a "CONNOISSEUR" of anyone else. People deal with each other as best they can, that's all. I find it poignant and relatable to see a man admitting that he usually fails. Most people do fail at it, more often than not.

I know I'm thought of as creepy, too, but I'm bone-tired of it, and almost ready to defend myself against it, counterproductive as that would be.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Alls I know is that now I strongly desire crepes.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

But still: how do you know how many girls Evan knows? That's weird.

Put it into the context of noise-speak, and suddenly you have a stark picture of a dreadful computer nerd who fumbles around with the few women he does meet.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Have you ever actually met Evan?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Or any of the noise dudes, for that matter?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I want to be crepey too.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I fail to see how all of us aren't dreadful computer nerds. How many posts, how many threads? I am not attacking you Kenan, just musing.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Popeye's and ordered a 4 piece chicken tenders meal. After I had scurried off to eat it behind the Dumpster, I saw, too late, that I had a 4-piece fried chicken meal. And it was not good.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, chill.

For starters: why even bother with the "knows more girls than you"? Is that supposed to make me feel bad? "Your point isn't valid because you are just jealous of Woody Allen!" Whatever, dude: it's not THAT hard to adopt; I can make something work.

Also: I really do think that WA falls into the category of dudes that adores women, aesthetically, and puts them on a pedestal and will gladly discuss at length the various qualities of different 'types' of women and think the whole time that he's doing anything but objectifying them. "B-B-But I'm not a misogynist! I LOVE women! They're SOOOO beautiful!"

xp WA = Woody Allen, dude.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Have you ever actually met Evan?

Just Evan. (and Joel.) Actually, Evan is pretty studly-like.

I was over-reacting to his accusations of my misogyny and cad-dom.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

OTM, actually.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

um... painfully.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I had a Popeye's chckn tndrs meal last weekend. It was good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like their pussies. Their pussy-tenders meal.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

and their Popeye's Popcorn Spinchter Ring-Things

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

dissonance in the divine accord

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

(btw: i made the switch to show "last 100" -- WHAT A DREAM!)

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, you're my chicken tender.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to kill myself.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, you're my chicken tender.

If I were Jesse, I would respond thusly:

And you're my Popeye's Popcorn Spinchter Ring-Things.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Last 100 is the only way to go.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dogbiz.com/dogs-grp3/schnauzer-std/images/schnauz-std-280x240-shd-tig.gif, please.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://cache.gridskipper.com/travel/woodyallen.jpg

"Killing yourself, huh? Is that really the best idea?"

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cowboypal.com/trigger.jpg, please.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I like the whole caption better. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

oh, jesse already did that one. ;_;

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

(btw: i made the switch to show "last 100" -- WHAT A DREAM!)

ME TOOOO! JUST ABOUT 15 MINUTES AGO!

and xpost, goddamnit evan, if you had actually LOOKED in the last 100 posts you would see that I have already posted TRIGGER, PLEASE

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/09/19/images/viggo_mortensen_a_history_of_violence_interview_top.jpg

Viggo, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's best with just the pic, comma, and 'please.'

tomorrow night we're going TO BIG CHICKS. WANNA CUM?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41435000/jpg/_41435288_ridder203body_ap.jpg, PLEASE.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

actually, what i think is best is IMAGE-SPACE-COMMA-SPACE-"PLEASE"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Killing yourself, huh? Is that really the best idea?"

Probably better to accept that there are a lot of people who aren't going to like me.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sodapopcentral.com/bottles/rootbeer/Faygo-Root-Beer-355-ml-can.jpg

Faygo, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Probably better to accept that there are a lot of people who aren't going to like me.

Just adopt! A child's love is unfailing, and later, you can get married!

xp Faygo is......real?

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jenny has something she'd like to say....

Yes, Faygo is fucking real.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

OMG because I was working up one with a picture of Jesse that said, "Faggo, please" under it!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'm not going to do it. You do it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

fine, i'll do it

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/lowelldance.gif

Faggo, please.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

ok, here goes--the post jenny was too much of a RING-THING to post herself

http://www.africaguide.com/images/indmaps/niger.gif , PLEASE!!!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

(figger it out)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

It's Christopher LOL!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's not the picture I would have used.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

well, then you should have posted it yourself!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer to let you do it and then criticize your execution of my idea.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's practice from when I'm an attorney and get to assign work to clerks.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

someone post a pic of n/a w/ Nick, please

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse should post a photo of himself on my BIRACIAL HOTTIES thread!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Why do I get the lamest promo offers?

Dear Reviewer,

Fighting Instinct is set to release their self-titled debut album on June 27th (Gotee/EMI Records). Their single "I Found Forever", produced by Skidd Mills (3 Doors Down, Saliva) is already TOP-30 at Active Rock and Mainstream Rock.

PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO RECEIVE A FIGHTING INSTINCT PROMO CD

About Fighting Instinct:
Hailing from North Carolina, Fighting Instinct combines Southern roots and melodic sensibilities with a modern rock edge. The band describes their sound as Southern-flavored, soulful rock with intricate melodies.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Active Rock and Mainstream Rock.

My two favorite kinds of rock!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

So glad I'm not a music reviewer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know what "active rock" is. As opposed to "passive rock"?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

It makes me think of a volcano.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

yark. i am going to dominicks'salksnow

DISSONANCE IN THE HONDA ACCORD

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Except we have a VW.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

It makes me think of a volcano.

http://www.ear.fm/Encyclopedia%20P/phair_liz.jpg

O RLY

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Liz Phair looks kinda like Scar.Jo there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I agree.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

she wishes

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.stereogum.com/img/lizphair_nsfw1.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cantstopwontstop.com/images/who.jpeg, please.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Have a good, long weekend, dudes.

http://foodgeeks.com/images/recipes/80e7834f91e5460edadad3170a3378a6-400.jpg
http://food.oregonstate.edu/images/beverages/beer/beer99.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

should i go get a tuna steak for dinner?? as a TREAT for ACING THE SHIT out of chemistry and physics test this week????

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Of course.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, see, IMG + ", please" doesn't work for me because I keep staring at Jenny's post and going, "Who, please"? "Keith Moon, please"? "Roger Daltrey, please?" "Pete Townshend, please?" WHAT IS SHE GETTING AT?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/images/country/flags/latvia.jpg

Riga, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, don't scrap the entire "IMG, please" construction based on my last post.

Here's the VHI "Behind the Post" special on that one: I saw that photo of the Who. I copied the image location. I came back here and saw Kenan had, after a long day of debating the negative portrayal of women in Woody Allen films, decided to post a nips out porn-style photo of Liz Phair. I thought about attempting to call him out on it it, but realizing the futility of it, just pasted the image location already on my clipboard and added ", please."

And then I thought, "This is really going to fuck with John."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Jordan!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

You should get whatever you want for acing a chem/physics exam. That shit be difficult. Evan be acin'.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

it was actually two exams.

two steaks?

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

after a long day of debating the negative portrayal of women in Woody Allen films, decided to post a nips out porn-style photo of Liz Phair

I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR LIZ PHAIR BEING TEH WHORE.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I AM NOT HOLDING YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR HER ACTIONS, ONLY YOUR OWN.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

But did you see what she was wearing? She was asking for it!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

The whole point of posting the nips-out photo was...

oh, you're right. Futility. Like the computer in WarGames. I'm learning.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

No, actually, I am curious why you chose that photo. I promise I won't argue or even respond at all.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

GUYS, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY I POSTED LIZ PHAIR IN THE FIRST PLACE/?

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

a) it was high in the GIS rankings. b) even as a picture, she has no cred.

xpost Because of the volcano comment.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Because she fucks like a volcano?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

also, it's her MANFRIEND that fucks like a volcano. i think.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Right, right.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right. I kept thinking of "Volcano Girls" by Veruca Salt but didn't see the connection.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 26 May 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nch.org.uk/uploads/images/David-Schwimmer-view_sq.jpg, please.

Did anyone appreciate the swiffer?

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 27 May 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

I most certainly did appreciate the Swiffer.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 27 May 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

BRUNCH.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 27 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH BRUNCH.

BRUNCH.

BRwefklj

munch the brunch

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 27 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

fuck you

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 27 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Harsh but fair.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 27 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

That's me!!!!!

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 27 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I had brats and roasted smores and told ghostie stories last night. It was excellent. Today at work was like the 10th circle, so it's beer and X-men 3 time tonight.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Saturday, 27 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

BIG Chicks tongight at 8.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 27 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

CAN'T MAKE IT, SORRY.

THOUGH, YOU MAY PLEASED TO KNOW THAT PPL IN MY PROGRAM THINK I'M GAY, PROBABLY.

1) I HAD A MIXTAPE IN MY CAR THAT I DROLLY TITLED 'DO NOT PLAY LOUD IN MONTANA OR ELSE GET ASS BEATEN' -- WHEN ASKED ABOUT IT BY CLASSMATES ON THE WAY TO BURRITOS, I SAID THAT IT WAS 'YOU KNOW, FAGGY DANCE MUSIC.' I BELIEVE THEY TOOK THIS TO MEAN THAT I WAS OF SAID PERSUASION, BECAUSE I PLAYED THEM THE MIX: HOT CHIP AND SOME ITALODISCO. OOPS!
2) SOMEHOW OUT AT DRINKS ONE OF THE DUDES IN THE PROGRAM WAS ALL JOKING AND 'SO, YOU'RE TOTALLY GAY, RIGHT?' AND SINCE I THINK GUYS THAT GET 'WHA, NO, TOTALLY NOT! EWWW!' ARE OBNOXIOUS, I JUST LET IT SLIDE AND SAID SOMETHING NON-COMMITAL/JOKEY.
3) CHILLING WITH MY CLASSMATE'S 2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER PRODUCED THIS DIALOGUE:

B (DIFF CLASSMATE): AND I'M A...
WIDDLE KID: GIRL!
B: AND YOUR DADDY?
WK: A BOY!
ME: WHAT ABOUT ME?
WK: YR A BOY...?
B: YOU SEEM UNSURE
ME: (THINKING I'M MAKING A JOKE OR SOMETHING) SO, I'M A BOY...BUT DIFFERENT?
WK: :D
EVERYONE ELSE IN THEIR BRANES: THIS DUDE IS TOTALLY GAY.

― gbx (skowly), Saturday, 27 May 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

B
O
R
E
D

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

i'm making pasta... FRESH PASTA!

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 28 May 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to kill myself.

-- sinful caesar sipped his snifter (fluxion2...), May 26th, 2006 3:30 PM.

Take me with you but please be sure to make it look like an accident.

Seriously, one more minute of this life and I'll have to do it myself.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 28 May 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

One of my favorite lines of dialogue is from The Weather Man where Michael Caine says, "In this shit life, we must chuck some things...we must chuck them...in this shit life."

That sums up my attitude during the past few weeks of my shit life.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 28 May 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

i think this quote only works if you've had the context of the movie. the chucking part, that is.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 28 May 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

wah wah wah.

i wish i had a slice of pizza.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 28 May 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

Evan, you need yr own personal Katie Holmes, STAT. Or not. You homo.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny's head hurts.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

so does nick's. so does his stomach.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry for being dumb last night. I remember punching people, probably Jesse. If it makes you feel any better, I feel like crap now and I threw up last night for the first time in like 20 years.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

I am having a hard time imagining Nick punching people.

― Kenan as Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 28 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I can punch you if it will help you BELIEVE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 28 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Get in line.

― Kenan as Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 28 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

In the past 24 hours, I have:

Made an awesome meat sauce and lots of pasta and garlic bread
Made some meatballs that turned out surprisingly well
Ate some babaganoush so spicy it made my nose run
Installed a window unit AC
Continued obsessively listening to Destroyer and inflicting it on friends and loved ones

― Kenan as Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 28 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Nick also threw water on people, which was funny. I missed the punching. Probably because I couldn't see so good.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 28 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Me and Nick punched each other a little. It was sweet.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 28 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

I found a reason to live: shopping.

Michael Caine is really fucking awesome, did you guys know that?

Last fall I bought a window A/C unit at a moving sale party. The compressor seems to work, but the fan does not. And I say boo.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 28 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Record high today! Wooo!

As Billy Idol so eloquently said: "Sweat... sweat... sweatsweatsweatSWEATSWEATSWEATSWEAAAAAT!!!"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 28 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

The weather sucks more than is at all reasonable. Truly, this is HELL.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 28 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

suckers. it snowed 20 inches at the upper elevations last night.

i am going SKIING tomorrow!

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 28 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Truly, this is HELL.

Dude, this is a beautiful day in Houston. Of course there, you have central AC everywhere you go.

Still, like I said, record highs, which means they are not normal highs, and they will be gone by Tuesday. It's a hot-ass weekend, is all.

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE AL GORE BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 28 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Living on the first floor makes this kind of weather a lot more tolerable. Still, it's not going to be long before I put the window rattler in.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

oh lord, I just spent an hour in my wonderful airconditioned bedroom.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Lying on the floor makes this kind of weather a lot more tolerable.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

All but 2 of our windows face north, too.

But yeah, it's hot.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

HEY I made a myspace profile in direct violation of my solemn belief that people over 30 who are not in bands or involved in improv should not have myspace profiles so I could see the famiy photos of my long lost friend from third grade and then I added a lot of you people because I felt stupid not having any friends. So now you know.

Also I'm kind of interested to see if anybody else from my past finds me somehow.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hot hot hot. Luckily the wine in a little cooler place in the closet. Probably going to get a little window unit. Alternated today between beautiful outdoor places and cool cool chain bookstores, etc.

ThAnKs fOr ThE AdD!!!!!!! What's UR orientation???

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

HoriZONtal.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

LOL

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

For a 3rd-story deal, my apartment is surprisingly not too bad. My little window fan is helping me out. It wasn't the best day to move a table out to the alley and lug a TV down from someone else's place, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

FOUND ON THE RED LINE:

http://static.flickr.com/70/155172247_c57dfc57bc.jpg

I call this: stilllife with crack baggie and chicken bone.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

I moved a metric fucking ton of tv today, too! It went well and I got to feel like a tuff pastry for hefting boxes of stuff.

Evan: GET ONE (1) BEARD.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

Someone recommend me a fun movie. I'm leaving in one (1) minute.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I got The Talented Mr. Malkovich and Crocodile Hunter teh Movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Wow.

The problem:

My apartment is wired to two (2) circuits, with one controlling only one (1) outlet

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Okay....now I know that the heel of my hand is prone to hitting the touch pad mouse controller in a way that the computer will interpret as a click on the button on which the cursor restd.

So, 1 circuit controls 1 plug in the kitchen and 1 in the bedroom, and the entire rest of the apartment is on the other circuit, meaning that if I run the A/C at the same time that I make toast or run the microwave, then the breaker trips and I have to go 4 flights downstairs to the basement to reset it.

I hold in my mind formulae about which appliances I can run simultaneously.

Summer is dumber.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

All I want in the whole world is go be able to sleep without sweating. I am eating ice by the tray.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

buh.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hot hurrr too. Cool shower before bed.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 29 May 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

i no longer sleep! i've been up for 40 minutes. it's sort of FUCKING ANNOYING b/c as you may have deduced from recent posts, i'm not all that keen on consciousness.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 29 May 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.download.com/Gmail-Space/3000-11745_4-10503065.html

Did you know about Gmail Space? You can use your 2GB of Gmail as file storage. HUH.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 29 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

MEMORIAL DAY COOK-OUT

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

BOCCE

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

BISON BURGERS

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

BRATS

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

BEER

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

BB FOR BBQ

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hi. I feel bad for basically staying inside and hiding in the a/c in the bedroom but it's FUCKING HOT OUTSIDE.

What's going on?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

We should be roadtripping to Madison.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

why should i get a beard?

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone is interested, A. Bourdain is talking about his new book The Nasty Bits at the Borders on N. Michigan Av. at 7 PM tomorrow.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

We should be roadtripping to Madison.

If you leave now, there will still be plenty of meat and sides when you get here. I can't speak for the beer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Carless, alas. Hey, I had another encounter with C0rmac M. today - at a used bookstore on Broadway.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I was just at Cub and man oh man, are the storms brewin'. I love thunderstorms, except in these parts they only last 10 minutes and then it's back to hazy sweatland.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, E -- did he recognize you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

beard - a person who diverts suspicion from someone (especially a woman who accompanies a male homosexual in order to conceal his homosexuality)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 29 May 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly. Which would solve several of your problems, Evan!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 29 May 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

So fulllllll and tiiirrrrrred

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

hahah! is that a real term?

i think i need an actual girlfriend more than i need a fake one.

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

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― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hey wow, my friends' band the Modern Machin3s (from Mke) was on the allmusic frontpage.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

I was out at O'Hare today when the storms kicked up. It was crazy stuff. I chose to ride out the storm in Ikea where I bought:

2 hot dogs
Bag o chips
Lingonberry slushy (!!!)

And for free I got anonymous fiddle-diddle.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

(How did I end up at Ikea, you ask? I was driving on the freeway in exactly the wrong direction when I saw Ikea. So I thought, "Huh. HUH. I need to pull over anyway, and that looks like a good spot to figure out where everything went all wrong."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

And for free I got anonymous fiddle-diddle.

They have that at Ikea now??

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

What a great website

Put in the number of a flight and it tells you detailed info on where the plane is.

Lessee-- right now a Aeromexico 688 (Boeing 737) is en route from Mexico City to Chicago O'Hare. It is 39,000 feet above Corpus Christi, travelling at 451 knots.

To me this is fascinating. I wish they had had websites when I was a kid.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

And for free I got anonymous fiddle-diddle.

They have that at Ikea now??

I don't think Ikea really knows that they provide this service.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

You go to Ikea for the cheap thoughtfully designed furniture, but you stay for the lingonberries and sodomy!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

I've never noticed anonymous fiddle-diddling in bathrooms -- even an interstate rest stops! Never seen it!

John, I told C.M. I'd been at the first preview - I'd just been one of a bunch of people saying congrats. I told him I thought the play was great, and he said, "So you didn't throw food at the stage?"

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

Re: first part of what I wrote - how does this happen, Jesse? Do you catch someone's eye? Like, I've never even seen a feller standing around in a men's bathroom perhaps idling or in search of a fiddler. How does this happen?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

DISCRETION!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

I have not done this in years, but it is a skill that develops naturally and is easily picked up.

You pick up on signals that you are also putting out. I would say that in a busy store you could have decent looking a.f.d. within 20 minutes tops.

You probably are not aware of it, but there is a website devoted to cruising. It's called Cru5ingfor53x.com. It's a frequently updated directory of cruising spots and "Heads Up" warnings about police activity in those areas.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the kicker: today's catch was shopping with a woman who I assume had put that ring on his finger.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

I see some vague cosmic symmetry in the fact that my first experience with receiving the oral pleasure was at a Scandanavian buffet in Montana (The Smorgi). I was 14 and he was around 35-ish. I was brazen in a way that I can hardly believe I was EVER capable of at my most outgoing, (much less at a time when I was so shy I would forgo lunch at school because I had never gotten up the courage to pick out a table, so I would just stand in the hall and read).

Anwyay--brazen: I asked this man in the bathroom if he would, uh, suck me off. He did. Then we returned to our tables in the same section of the dining room, he with his wife and me with my parents and visiting extended family.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

Aeromexico 688 is 39,000 feet over the border between Texas and Louisiana!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ladies - don't let your man out of your sight!

I guess it's like if I see a cute gal at Tower Records and for two seconds think "Hey, that gal's cute" but logic doesn't compel me to think "Hey, that gal's cute, and if I give a signal maybe she'll go in the bathroom and suck me off..."

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Men can be some horny horny dudes, sometimes.

On a semi-phallic note, the "Beers Tower" in the window at Myopic cracked me up tonight. Especially because it was made out of Hamm's cans.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hamm's Genuine Draft cans, I daresay.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hamms, the beer refreshing, Hamms. My place is still too hot - I think I may go to the Green Mill and catch the last set of the Barber. Drank a bottle of cold French rose tonight on my own while watching Wedding Crashers, which one of the gals had rented from Blockbuster - not bad.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

I was just typing and I accidentally mashed the whole keypad with my entire hand or something.

Anway, what I was saying was this:

The DJ on WXRT said that this was a "gorgeous, hot, summery" weekend. Fucking idiot.

Also, I hold no illusions about knowing what women want, but I think I'm safe in saying that a safe generalization is that women don't really have much interest in a spur of the moment anonymous orgasm exchange. Another belief: many many men are interested in getting off pretty much at any time, without regard to courting, introductions, etc.

In a conversation at work, a couple straight men agreed that they wished that Steamworks had a hetero equivalent. A heterosexual bathhouse is unfeasible only because it would be devoid of women.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

IMPORTANT NOTE:

I did not see the woman he was with until later!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

FUNNY NOTE:

I talked to Courtney after she got home. We hung up and a few minutes later she called me and asked, "Did you put something in my carry-on?"

I had not, so it seems that Courtney has made 2 or 3 round trips to Chicago as well as New York with a bowl in her backpack (at first I thought she meant a cereal bowl), a bowl that she has not used or even seen since 2003.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

The Barber blew my mind - this is the best live jazz I've ever seen - combination of incredibly tight and incredibly intuitive and responsive in the moment.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

I did not see the woman he was with until later!

HOMEWRECKER

The Barber blew my mind - this is the best live jazz I've ever seen - combination of incredibly tight and incredibly intuitive and responsive in the moment.

Nice. Any idea who's in her local band?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, is your life a QAF episode??

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hello.
I'm not expected to do any real work today, am I? I mean, it's hard enough having to be AT work.

Ikea is too overstimulting to be sexy. That sounds contradictory.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I have never seen QAF.

I think airports are positively radiant with sexual energy.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

In a conversation at work, a couple straight men agreed that they wished that Steamworks had a hetero equivalent.

The heterosexual equivalent of Steamworks can be found in the advertising pages of the Chicago Reader, which will direct any straight man looking for anonymous sex to all sorts of prostitutes offered through thinly disguised escort services, massage parlors, and "gentleman's clubs."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

somebody bring me the reader...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

You go to Ikea for the cheap thoughtfully designed furniture, but you stay for the lingonberries and sodomy!

I was hit on by a dude in an IKEA once.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I want Jesse to write a book someday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am in thrall with my new TV. I turned it on yesterday afternoon and was stared slackjawed at the giant moving images in front of me. I'm definitely looking forward to watching movies on this thing.

Kr and I beat the heat yesterday by going to Target and buying Boggle and then going to the Unicorn Cafe in Evanston to play it. We also closed out Huettenbar last night, which my body isn't particularly enjoying right now, but it was a perfect capstone to the weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan -
Michael Arnopol on bass; Eric Montzka on drums; Neal Alger on guitar (guest).

There are a few free live MP3s on the 'a/v' page of her site (from the past few years, not last night).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse: You've never...but wha? Why not?? Actually I confused you in my memory with someone from the noise bored who made a joke about QAF scripts, but still I'm surprised you've never seen Queer as Folk. As usual, the UK version was better, I believe.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Why would Jesse have seen...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

In one of the first episodes, nearly that exact same thing happens: our rake, Stuart, is in a business meeting and locks eyes with some other gent who's wearing a wedding ring and slips it off in full view. They excuse themselves one after another and meet in men's room with predictable results.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody kicked a wire (literally, I expect) and now our web server is down and I can't work. Yahoo!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am so looking forward to my leftovers from Ras Dashen for lunch today. Injera that's spent the last day soaking up spicy lentils and kale and beets etc. = delicious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

i went to smoke daddy last night and all i want now is more bbq.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

So, Kevin, I guess you survived blackout?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

eked this one out. there was a time when i can say without hyperbole i thought i was going to die. you could see my heart beating through my shirt. it was awful. i toned things down for the friday and saturday. too many late nights.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

SPOTTED: N + S at TJ's on Saturday buying wine.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Post it here!

(The wine was very good, btw.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Glad you enjoyed it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Was it from your personal vineyard?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

No. It was just a suggestion.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it was good one then. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

It is sickeningly hot in our office. I'm going to have to start sporting a confederate flag bikini and cutoffs a la Ruyter de Nashv1lle Pussy.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of dirty words, I put a few Spank Rock mp3s on a mix for my sister. The female rap at the end of Bump gets nastier than Lil' Kim. Also, it goes on for a really long time. I didn't realize that until I listened to it on my i-pod this morning. Whoops. She does give a shout out to Kelly Bundy, which is amusing.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, all of their songs are dirty, but I guess the female rapper is just easier to understand..?

Also, that wine was good. Thanks, Amanda. Also, it was funny when we met up with other people later and Jesse said, "Hey, you guys have been drinking red wine." And we were like WHHAAA? Apparently, our mouths were black inside.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I almost bought that Spank Rock album at Tower the other day. Instead I bought the new Ellen Allien, which I ended regretting -- not because it isn't good, but because it's available at Gramophone as a non-import (and thus $7 cheaper).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Currently listening to: The Futureheads, "News and Tributes"
Mood: Distracted http://www.lsd-trip.de/module/forum2/images/smilies/shocked.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

In Anthony Bourdain news, Jessa just interviewed him and reports that he's mellowed considerably. She asked him about vegetarianism, and he was like, "Well, I can see it." Whoa! Slow down, Tony, you're blowing my mind.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

What had he said before?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Paraphrased:

They have no taste
They can't cook vegetables
They are over-priviliged in being able to pick and choose their protein
They are missing out on many larger pieces of culture, both food and non-food related

Basically stuff like that.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck that dude.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

If you insist.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

He still hates Woody Harrelson, though. All is not lost.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, I mentioned Anthony Bourdain the other day to someone from "the real world." It was weird.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

He still hates Woody Harrelson, though. All is not lost.

― Jordan C (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

i think ppl in the real world read books and eat food, too!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

You know someone who has been on "The Real World"?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mtv.com/onair/realworld/season11/assets/images/pic_season_11.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's interesting to me to see how his thoughts about vegetarians and vegans have evolved in his writing and in interviews. I agree with some of it, mostly the stuff about culture but some about privilege too.

Of course, I think these ideas work when talking about people who eat meat too, and the "removal" of the processes involved in such producing food and also the waste involved. There is a great piece in A Cook's Tour that outlines the community-buthchering of a pig for a feast at one of his cook friends' home village in Portugal, and how every piece is used. I find it fascinating when compared with popping over to Cub and picking up a pork chop or sausage.

Xpost of course. John, you mean IRL not ILX?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Based on the Chicago thread, you'd think Anthony Bourdain was Oprah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

The new book opens with a tale of horror that made it onto his travel channel show, too: the hunting, killing, and comsumption of a seal. And yeah, they use every part. It's no less bloody. Even the story about the pig is full of him going, "I don't know if I want to see this." But it does lead to a hard realization about where dinner comes from.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Elliott Gould is hotter.

http://www.fiend-magazine.com/08/culture/bourdain.jpg http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/gould_elliott.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://record.wustl.edu/archive/1999/02-11-99/photos/glass.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Well, yeah. But Elliott Gould isn't who I want to be when I grow up.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

WTF with Philip Glass?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

you want to be anthony bourdain when you grow up?

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Better start with the coke and heroin now. You've got a lot of catching up to do.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Philip Glass is hypnotizing you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was hoping to skip that part. Hey, I already have a drinking problem. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

xp - GROSS. Why would you wanna be that guy? I didn't know who he was before you guys started talking about him. The only "famous chefs" I knew were Julia Child and Rachel Ray.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Nigella.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda is speaking my language.

Things I did before I left the house this morning:

1. Sang the "Toys R Us" jingle.
2. Used the phrase "pop-culture ephemera."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Niether of whom are actually chefs. Well, I dunno... Did Julia ever work in a restaurant kitchen? I could only see Ray working front of the house. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you wanna be that guy?

Well. I dare say, obviously not so that you will like me more.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like (most) egomaniacs.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

you will not like chefs, then.

dan's otm, btw.

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Niether of whom are actually chefs.

Ouch! Listen, pal, next time you eat bistro food, thank one Julia Child. Her focus was always home cooking, but she also single-handedly brought Escoffier back from the dead.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hands up, who else had to google "Escoffier" just now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just sayin' she had a TV show, and as good as she was (and her homie Jacques is one of my all time favorites) a TV show does not equal pulling together all the duties of chefdom.

xpost: Not I.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://ilx.p3r.net/newquestions.php?board=98

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hell, why not post these then:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=2
http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=54
http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=35

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I love cooking, but I do not love chefs.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://ilx.p3r.net/newquestions.php?board=13

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

m white hangs out on ask a drunk?

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I, um, kind of love chefs. I didn't say it was a GOOD IDEA, I have lots of NOT GOOD IDEAS (cf also "cocky tattooed rock boys").

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

i want to go to culinary school. like, BAD.

i don't wanna be a chef, though

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Chefs are an odd breed, it's true, and I can't imagine working in a restaurant kitchen, much less running one. There's no reason any home cook should be cooking like a professional, unless you're feeding 500 people a night out of your kitchen. But that was one of Julia Child's main things, too -- just because you're at home doesn't mean you can't make food that tastes as good as, or better than, a three-star restaurant.

I, um, kind of love chefs.

Better yet -- chefs who ride motorcycles.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Stop that.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Julia Childs: OTM!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

this is what's been bugging me about cooking at home: for some things, you HAVE to be cooking for a crowd in order to justify the cost/time.

ie - cooking at home for a FAMILY /= cooking for the BACHELOR

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Tattooed, chain-smoking chefs who ride motorcycles and have a bit of a coke habit.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Evan's turn to be OTM. This is why I nerd out over barbecues and such.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

oh totally! i was going through my cookbook's (the inimitable HOW TO COOK EVERYTHING) and getting a little misty about all the delicious sauces that really aren't worth making for one person, on one night.

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Clearly, a dinner party or two is in order.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

No drugs, K -- we've already seen that movie and we know how it ends. Rest OTM, though!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Have you considered making the sauces and freezing? That's the practical solution, provided that it's something that could be frozen.

Tattooed, chain-smoking chefs who ride motorcycles and have a bit of a coke habit. YUCK

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

i thought about that, yeah.

all i've got now, though, is a mini-fridge, so space is super-limited. once i've got a full-size to myself, i'm going to go crazy on stocking shit (like, making curries, chilis, etc. and freezing them)

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

John, how big is your new TV?

Not at all the same. Steamworks is full of men who are interested in having sex with other men, not for profit, but for fun. To attempt to be a hustler in Steamworks would be pretty fruitless. Well, I take that back--if you were a hot hot hottie who targeted really gross fat old trolls, then you would have business on your hands.

Even the the Women Seeking Men (for free) ads in the Reader are usually for relationships. And I seriously doubt that those women who are looking for a quick NSA hookup are much of a catch at all.

I have never seen one single episode of QAF partially b/c I never had Showtime and when it came out on DVD, the previews looked like it might be a show that would inspire homophobia in my heart.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I never saw the Showtime version. I think it was over-sexualized in comparison to the UK one, the WHOLE POINT of which was that being queer isn't solely about sex, and other issues of aging & maturation (I said maturATION, shut up). I love love some UK QAF.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/63/155590623_0013c93a3e.jpg
I like wieners, evidentally.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how big the TV is: maybe 27"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

The American QAF had the acting and production values of an MTV show. It was good for a yuk or two, but boy was it bad.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I've only seen 5 minutes of QAF (back when the TVs on the treadmills at my gym still carried Showtime and HBO), but watching it I saw a position I hadn't imagined before.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

(The point being that for the last five years, the only TV I have had was something like 15", which didn't exactly make me excited about watching it.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Joss: GORGEOUS!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it had a lot of butt sex. A lot. And lots of graphic talk about butt sex. But once again, even with all the lube on screen, they still got the formula just wrong enough that only straight women watched the show.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I was forcibly introduced to QAF UK by my most pop-culturally discerning gay friend with impeccable taste, plus Vince (the loveable nebbish) is a Dr Who fan. So there's a lot to like.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

The American QAF had the acting and production values of an MTV show. It was good for a yuk or two, but boy was it bad.

From what I've seen, this pretty much describes The L Word as well.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/69/155594901_f59d8553d6.jpg
Sans meat-in-mouth.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Cuet!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

OK, now I feel kind of creepy. Sorry. EZ is right about the L-Word. How terrible it was!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

i just asked my visiting friends about the l-word, thinking they might have something to say about it with their lesbionic expertise. they think it's awful and doesn't have enough butch girls, and showed me a tiny clip of one scene which was maybe two minutes, but bad in a oh-when-is-this-gonna-end, rather than an entertaining, way.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

He still hates Woody Harrelson, though. All is not lost.
!

-- Jordan C (jorda...), May 30th, 2006.

Haha.

NO MORE IMPERSONATING ME WHILE I'M IN MEETINGS, FUCKERS.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

There are, like, NO real butch girls on the L-Word. Shane? Okay I adore her but BUTCH? She's a hipster pretty-boi BEANPOLE.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Which one is Leisha Haley? (She's on that show, right?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I don't know. I've only seen the 2nd season so don't listen to me, anyway.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of beanpoles, one of my coworkers just gave me a lecture for eating a rice cake (SO high in sugar!) and drinking a diet soda (no nutritional value!!).

I thought the L-word was some sort of Christian series. I have no idea why. ha ha (like for LOVE or something)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

The Lord Word!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i can't wait to come home to an empty house tonight. first time in a week! yay!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.chroniques-lunaires.net/IMG/jpg/hailey.jpg

Leisha Hailey. She apparently plays "Alice." (Was also in the band the Murmurs and dated kd lang for a spell.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

The episode I saw (second season, I think) had the two...roomates? ex-lovers? both?...applying for the same grant, and then one of them falls for the rich heiress working for her family's foundation. It was OK to watch, but pretty lousy compared to something like Dawson's Creek.

I'll tell ya what'd be a hit - make a gay or lesbian soap opera and shoot it like daytime soaps - on videotape, with the same kind of style and production values as strong as All My Children and Guiding Light. Todd Haynes would be up for an episode or two, I'm sure.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

OH, Alice isn't butch AT ALL. Isn't she always having stupid emotional freak-outs and being a huge girl with pretty dresses and lacy thngs on? She's, like, the Kooky Vintage Girl last I checked.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

i've never seen the l word or the uk qaf. i've seen way too much of the showtime qaf. once ted started tweaking out it just got beyond stupid.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Which one is Ted, again? They changed all the names on me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

he was the dude who kind of looked like the cooking guy from queer eye. unless THAT dude's name was ted in which case i forget the qaf guys name. but i think it's ted.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Todd Haynes would be up for an episode or two, I'm sure.

Haha, awesome.

Yeah, Laurel, I didn't mean to suggest that her character was butch (never seen the show but it's hard for me to imagine, considering that she's always been kinda girly) -- she's just the only person I know from that show.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Cooking dude on QEFTSG: Ted Allen.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

So I'm guessing this show is more along the lines of Kissing Jessica Stein than the Incredibly True Adventures of Two Girls in Love?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

theodore "ted" schmidt is the character on qaf.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

But there's a lot of sex on the show, fo sho, Sarah. It's just kind of models having sex, is all.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if it's the weather or what but i totally fell in love about 300 times this weekend. women, they're just awesome.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

But there's a lot of sex on the show, fo sho, Sarah. It's just kind of models having sex, is all.

all right, if anybody needs me i'll be at the video store.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I was forcibly introduced to QAF UK by my most pop-culturally discerning gay friend with impeccable taste

I've only seen a few eps of the UK one, but from what I could tell, it was vastly better.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

i was wondering if it was on dvd in the US, but i'm not sure i could stand it after seeing so much of the US one, even if it is far superior. same basic characters and such, right?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I recommend it without reservation, basically. THE REST IS UP TO YOU. I think we watched UK tapes, though, that my friend had paid to convert.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

hmm. i'm always looking for more stuff to watch.

i saw a japanese movie last night that i totally expected to hate but it was charming and fun, if maybe a bit long. quite twee. has anyone seen kamikaze girls?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I didn't even know there was a UK version.

My first real distaste for QAF began when the sex writer (ugh- think bad non-NYC rip-off of Sex and the City (which is also "ugh") for the UNCG school newspaper talked about it in my religious studies Gender and Culture class. Annoying femme boy who decided that he his lot in life was to be an edgy activist, and that meant writing about how "...last weekend I had my first threesome!" UGH.

Anyway, he set me against QAF and Armistad Maupin's "Tales of the City" (Professor: Brian, would you like to tell the class about your favorite book? Brian: Oooh! It is one of the most human and most humanizing series I've ever read).

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I didn't even know there was a UK version.

Hence the title of the show being British slang. (I always thought it odd that they kept it for the American version.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

What? I don't see how a British accent would make this any better a pun. I'm saying it alound in various ways and it is all the same.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

i had to wiki it to see what he was talking about...

The title of the programme comes from a dialect expression from some parts of Northern England, "there's nought [colloquially pronounced 'nowt'] so queer as folk", meaning "there's nothing as strange as people". Davies had originally titled the series this, although at the suggestion of Channel 4 executives for a period during its development and pre-production it was known as Queer as Fuck, before it reverted to the former name.[

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just discovered that in a few weeks I'm going to have a new boss. This new boss will not, apparently, be well-versed in the techincal side of our work and will be more of a "business" style manager. This is somewhat disquieting to me.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't work like that, Jess. The very, very English saying is "there's nowt as queer as folk" meaning of course that people are the weirdest all by themselves. Co-opted with modern use of "queer" for the show title.

XP there you go.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

dan, you must hone your idiocy tolerance skills now, in preparation.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Worst type of boss to have.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, my Worst Boss Ever trophy still rests in the hands of the owner of the flower shop who was a good florist but could not handle a single aspect of owning a business.

Examples:
-Went out of business
-In the year I worked for him, he never once counted or balanced the register. NOT ONCE.
-For 6 months (including holidays) he had only 1 employee--me. I designed, took orders, drove, did office shit. I started work at 8 AM at the latest and ended no earlier than 10 PM - 6 or 7 days a week. During holidays and weddings we usually went home at 1 or 2 AM.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Also: Oh, I didn't know that.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

"there's nought [colloquially pronounced 'nowt'] so queer as folk

My mom actually says this, and has done since I was a kid.

FYI.

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

and has done

haha

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

she also says "has done."

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

My psych professor would say, "People are stranger than anybody." He attributed that saying to his psych professor before him.

Is your mum English?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

ASK JOHN

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Irish.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

I first heard "has done" in an interview with Robert Smith. He said, "My dad lives in London; has done for years."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

English,Irish, all same.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

...but raised in northern england.

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny, because Americans are perfectly accustomed to saying either "has" or "has done so" but "has done" sounds odd to us.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://eil.com/newgallery/Morrissey-Irish-Blood-Engli-280156.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

birthday present!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Similar UK construction to "has done" = "should do."

As in: "I drink more than I should do."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I KNOW

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Has done" sounds strange to my ears, and if I try to apply logic to it this is what I come up with-- "Has" works because it implies the rest of the sentence as in, "He has [done so]" or "He has [lived]."

"Has done so" works because "so" is a stand-in for the action.

It boils down to the fact that I just feel uncomfortable with "has done" but I think it is a charming Briticism that makes the British sound like they are parodying themselves.

Word on the street is that they think that Americanisms "to burglarize" and "gotten" are silly, and they favor "to burgle" and "got" (but they still say "forgotten").

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. Work just called. They are having a photo shoot tomorrow and they want me to be the waiter who models for it. I wonder if they're serious. They asked me to show up for work at 10 AM, so they damn well better be serious.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

I just got caught in ten minutes of jungle rain on the way back from Borders, and I'm soaked to the skivvies and covered in city grime, and I couldn't be happier. Beats sweating.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

Glad I didn't buy that magazine, though -- it would be very wet. When I first walked out and saw it was raining, I did a quick mental inventory of my bag to see if any of it shouldn't get wet. There was nothing, not even cigarettes. I planned it right.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Anthony Bourdain was awesome, charming, and funny. The thing about him is, apart from being an egomaniacal chef with lots of bitter things to say about, say, Charlie Trotter (who he calls "Millhouse", roffle), he's actually a really nice guy, very quicki and gracious with an audience -- Jessa even reports he got misty at one point during the interview, talking about how travel changes you, how lonely it is, how your friends don't understand you anymore but you can never stop doing it.

Ok, enough about Tony. The end.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

whom he calls "Millhouse"

Why does he call him Millhouse? What does he have to say about Millhouse?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/uploads/charlie.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

the locus of the O was in the leather cheerio

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

A car wreck just happened right outside my window. Screeching tires, and that awful crunch. I instantly had a Nam-like flashback to every wreck I've ever been in. Looks like nobody was hurt, though, just a little crumpling of the tiny Toyota that rear-ended the Jeep.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

whom he calls "Millhouse"

So schoolmarmy. I'll defend the death of the proper usage of really great words like "jealous," but "whom" sounds like olde englishe to me. It needs to go. It conveys no extra meaning.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I'll argue against the death of. You know what I mean.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have only heard really awful things about Charlie Trotter, the person. Former employees (and postings on Sh@melessrest@ur@nts.com) indicate that he is as rotten, manipulative, cheap and self-important asshole as ever was.

He pays his wait staff $15 an hour, which is unequivocal ass-rapery in a restaurant as high a caliber as his. Waiters I know who have worked for Trotter went there to put in a couple of years in the trenches so that they would be more desireable to other restaurants where they could get respect and money.

Would you also argue against "him" and "her"? Why would you argue against the use of the objective case of one pronoun, but not others?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

Whom he calls Millhouse:Who he calls Millhouse::He calls him Millhouse:He calls he Millhouse.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm probably just used to it by now, but "whom" also sounds a lot better to me there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse: I understand the difference between a subject and an object. Don't patronize me, buddy. But the fact that the word is almost totally absent from speech, combined with the fact that it sounds really weird at the beginning of a sentence (or even clause), and that most editors have long ago conceded this point, argues for it's death as a word. So like I said, a schoolmarmy thing to correct.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

its death.

DAMNIT!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

I am just busting Kenan's chops. Chopping his balls. I am not a grammar Nazi in casual conversation. Even in formal settings I am solidly in the Moderate camp.

It sounds natural to me; when it's not used I feel its absence.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Whom will you turn to when it all falls down?"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

que?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

I have only heard really awful things about Charlie Trotter, the person.

Oh, me too. Apparently Chicago's star chef is a real asshat -- not just a egomaniac, but a man with ass on head.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

que?

It's one of those proper constructions that nevertheless sounds really wrong. Also, a modified lyric from some song. I can hear it in my head, but couldn't tell you what it is.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hell of a meal that Trotter makes, though.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, fuck him.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

Don't hate the playa, hate youself!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Was just listening again to this song 'Attraction' and was reminded of our lad John's hatred of dating pragmatism.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

The now-infamous Trib article about Trotter's... um... petulance.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've been learning towards John's side recently, about dating pragmatism.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

It's one of those proper constructions that nevertheless sounds really wrong.
If I were expressing this I would say, "To whom will you turn when it all falls down." In casual speech I would say "Who are you gonna turn to when it all falls down."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

It used to bother me when my English ex would use a construction such as "I was going to Cambridge, I was, on the train..."

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

If I were expressing this I would say, "To whom will you turn when it all falls down."

To whom would you be addressing this terribly stuffy sentence?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

I said that I wouldn't say that in casual conversation. If I were writing that sentence I would write it that way without regard to whom it was addressed.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

I must have missed the bit about "dating pragmatism." What does it mean exactly? From the song, I can only glean that he wouldn't want to date a woman who will second-guess his every action. Or maybe it means he would?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

I've been learning towards John's side recently, about dating pragmatism.

Did I miss something?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

jinx

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

The thing that comes up every few Chicago threads about clarity of intention versus 'playing the game' whatever the game may be. Let's see "ilx chicago jaymc dating game" - let's see if that does it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) I'm assuming Eric (and Jocelyn) mean my discomfort with the whole strategy of dating and the codes you have to follow to "play" the "game."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yes!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Ordinary People

This is what that song linked above is all about!!

As in:
Well, that's sort of why I hate the dating game to begin with. I'd love to just be myself, but dating for some reason places all these requirements on me that I must take various "approaches" and "strategies" that don't seem like things I'd normally do. I've bitched about this plenty of times before.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 13th, 2006.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, see, I was taking "pragmatism" for a noun for some reason.

Still...

clarity of intention versus 'playing the game'

Surely you realize you're fighting a losing battle against "playing the game," right?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of object to "playing the game," unless you want to categorize all social interaction as a game. Dating is not a game, but it does have rules.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

"Clarity of intention" is how you win this supposed "game."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm not arguing about the point of the song but just saying the point of view of the song is kind of a funny and sad articulation of figuring out what to say and what not to say)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of people treat it as a game, and that attitude is what bothers me. I value honesty above placation or flattery.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

So do most people.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry, I'm a little sore about this particular subject right now.)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

dating for some reason places all these requirements on me that I must take various "approaches" and "strategies" that don't seem like things I'd normally do

I don't think it does. I does require you to be extra charming and extra funny and maybe show your peacock feathers a little, but why would you object to doing that? Have a shave, smell nice, show up sharp, use your nervousness as energy instead of letting it make you a basket case... I guess htese are the rules. They don't seem all that unreasonable to me.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

(lots of xposts) Although looking at it now, I wonder how much that was borne out of my bitterness about being single, because it seems like an odd complaint. Or I dunno, it seems understandable enough, but not like it should be that big of a deal. I mean, I feel like Kr and I very much followed a typical path: met her at a bar, got her number, went out on one date, then another, etc. -- all of which constitutes a strategy of sorts. But maybe it's just more a common-sense strategy than anything. And maybe what I object to is the discourse of gamesmanship that surrounds courtship.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

maybe what I object to is the discourse of gamesmanship that surrounds courtship

You lost me. You mean forced conversation?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

The other thing about the song is that it's based particularly on internet dating, so there's the verbalization before actually meeting and the capturing of all that.

Here's the thing - you can't give out all of the information about yourself in a split second, so there's a sequence of exposition. If you're having dinner with someone on a first date, odds are that at some point you bite your tongue instead of revealing every possible piece of information about yourself - this isn't dishonesty but it is pragmatic.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

I value honesty above placation or flattery.

Yes. I would still agree with this. I do feel like the way some people talk about it, there's a degree of deception or manipulation involved.

Also: The song reminds me of the Mountain Goats.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

You go on a first date to the Streets of Woodfield and you see the Ikea in the distance, you might think but not say "Hey, I blew a guy there last weekend." But maybe that would be a good icebreaker.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

As Chris Rock said, when you date someone, you're not dating them, you're dating their representative. I don't think there's any way to avoid that. I don't think there should be.

I do feel like the way some people talk about it, there's a degree of deception or manipulation involved.

As Amanda would say, gross.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

You lost me. You mean forced conversation?

No, I mean the way people talk about "how to date." The existence of books like this:

http://media.bestprices.com/content/isbn/44/0446602744.jpg

The notion that there are these generalizable techniques, or "tricks of the trade" out there, and the way in which people swap stories about their different approaches. The existence of "pick-up lines."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

I agree, J. I also think that dating is a lot of talking, but until you actually get into a relationship with someone, you can't see if they will follow through with the action. But you can't get to that stage without the initial courtship stage. It's a Catch-22.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

As Amanda would say, gross.

Ha. But that's a Jenny-ism.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm quite enjoying being single right now though, FWIW.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

you can't see if they will follow through with the action.

Okay, but I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I feel like this is a different set of concerns, maybe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

SRSLY, John, do you now or have you ever known anyone who uses "pick-up lines"?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

I also think that dating is a lot of talking, but until you actually get into a relationship with someone, you can't see if they will follow through with the action.

OTMFM

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) No, I don't! But it's commonly talked about within the culture. Like, I think Eddie and Jobo the other day had listeners call in and offer their best (or worst) pick-up lines. Which reinforces this general idea that things like that are important. That's what depresses me. And when you're single for long enough, you start to wonder if your refusal to participate in that ideology is what's keeping you single -- which is even more depressing to think about.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

SHARING THE NIGHT TOGETHER
(A.Aldridge/E.Struzick)
DR. HOOK
You're looking kinda lonely girl
would you like someone new to talk to, ah yeh alright
I'm feeling kinda lonely too
if you don't mind can I sit down here beside you
ah yeah alright

If I seem to come on too strong
I hope that you will understand
I say these things 'cause I'd like to know
if you're as lonely as I am
and if you mind

Sharing the night together, oh yeah
Sharing the night together, oh yeah, sharing the night.

We could bring in the morning girl
if you want to go that far
and if tomorrow find us together
right here the way we are
would you mind

Sharing the night together, oh yeah
Sharing the night together, oh yeah, sharing the night.

Would you like to dance with me and hold me
you know I want to be holding you
ah yeah alright 'cause I like feeling like I do
and I see in your eyes
that you're liking it too, ah yeah alright
like to get to know you better
is there a place where we can go
where we can be alone together
and turn the lights down low and start sharing the night ...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

Follow through with what action?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I am in any position to be talking about relationships on the internet.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you should get into another position then, Dan. Something a little more ... comfortable?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think it is a different set of concerns, but also tied to the dating game. People will talk, and tell you "Oh, I believe blah-dee-blah blah" or "I totally feel x way" but until you actually see them follow through, they might just be trying to please you. This applies to all situations in life, I guess, but in dating I think people get particularly hurt. Not that all people are bastard people, but I think it has a lot to do with maturity.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I see. Maybe I'm just naive and don't expect that people would do that to me. Or maybe I just haven't had that experience. Which is fortunate, I guess.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

You are a lucky man. Probably you're just amazingly considerate and always willing to give your partner as much they give you.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm not being sarcastic, I hope it didn't come off that way)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to decide which member of Dr. Hook actually approached the woman at the bar (too big to post and I don't want to step on the real conversation): http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/features/wallpaper/images/1024/dr_hook.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

I hope it was Mustache-power! man in the back row.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

the way in which people swap stories about their different approaches

But see, this is what I'm saying. It's not possible to not have an approach. Your approach may be elegant, may be brainy, may be needy, may just be clumsy, but everyone has an approach.

when you're single for long enough, you start to wonder if your refusal to participate in that ideology is what's keeping you single -- which is even more depressing to think about.

"Pick up lines" are stupid and by definition manipulative. You don't have to be stupid and manipulative to talk to someone you find attractive. You also don't have to be nervous and inept. You just have to put on your best face.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

Some Harper's Index-like data for y'all:

Number of posts between 10:30 am - 12:30 pm: 15
Number of posts between 10:30 pm - 12:30 am: 63

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

Workin' on the night moves.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

Those fuckin' 9-to-5ers have a surprise coming their way. Put on your reading glasses.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hey man, today was busy.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

but everyone has an approach.

Sure, but I don't like talking about it or thinking about it or realizing it as a concrete thing: this ruins my belief in things happening organically, because of "chemistry" or whatever. Maybe I'm just being too romantic about it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I worked 9 pm to 5 am today, so my schedule is way off.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/81/0131407481.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm beginning to think being too romantic is its own little problem.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

I want things to happen organically, but I have no problem admitting I'm a romantic. But I'm not in love with the idea of love, I'm over that stage.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm not like my friend who rated women on how many ships they could launch, he was pretty far gone.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like talking about it or thinking about it or realizing it as a concrete thing: this ruins my belief in things happening organically

I would say, "Spoken like a man with no girlfriend," except you do, so I can't say that. And the reason you have a girlfriend, remember, is because you had an approach.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

John, nobody, not even society, is telling you that you have to turn into Fratty Joe in order to find companionship. You're just hearing that, for some strange reason.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

Something a little more ... comfortable?

Shit, I totally missed this earlier. I don't know why I haven't done it. I think probably because I was so comfortable before.

xpost: "Approach" can be nothing more than recognizing what people like about you, too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

Like I said earlier, I'm not as bothered by this stuff as I was when I was single. I'm probably also less analytical about this relationship as others I've been in, for a variety of reasons, and it's kind of refreshing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

So I mean ... I don't need any reassurance or anything.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

"Approach" can be nothing more than recognizing what people like about you, too.

Or accidentally stumbling into it. Usually how I do it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, I was as much reassuring myself there as anyone else!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I was talking to Kenan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well, then... fuckit!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

This is why when I want to meet someone, small house parties are so much better than clubs. You stand a much better chance of stumbling into it. Someone overhears your conversation, maybe, and jumps in, or gives you a look of recognition... it's not all about "playa approaches playee." I mean, sometimes there's an element of that, maybe right at first, but it's not... that simple. Unless you assume women are simple and just moving targets, in which case you're the kind of guy who uses pick-up lines.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Also the "comfortable" line was a joke! About the "position" you were in!

Ah, never mind.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Turn on your side.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

That's always easier anyway.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

in which case you're the kind of guy who uses pick-up lines.

And the kind of guy who seeks out this woman.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the thread where I first railed about "the game": Help me try and save something that I've broken.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and it's a joke, all right!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

Stupid HTML parser

What I said was: xpost Ah, the game. You don't want to get played, gamer.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

I should probably go to bed.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

bwahahaha

Seriously, fuck this thread. Relationship advice on ILX is the worst, because so much of it labors under wack assumptions about "what women/men want" and it treats human relationships like it's all a big strategic game.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...) (webmail), September 28th, 2005 2:09 PM. (jaymc) (link)

Um. That's maybe because human relationships are a big strategic game?

-- The Ghost of Black Elegance (djperr...) (webmail), September 28th, 2005 2:11 PM. (Dan Perry) (link)

I mean, seriously, think about it for a second.

-- The Ghost of Black Elegance (djperr...) (webmail), September 28th, 2005 2:12 PM. (Dan Perry) (link)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Perry was being a total cock on that thread. Also gotta love how the girl I tried to hook up with and subsequently freaked out over not two weeks beforehand showed up and basically called me a spazzy neurotic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Total cocksman!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

Heartsure and Cockstrong!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Perry was being a total cock on that thread.

I didn't read the whole thread. But that quote was pretty funny. I don't imagine that Dan actually meant that relationships can be mapped on paperboard like Risk or something, he was just trying to take you down a notch. You are, after all, dangerously romantic.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also gotta love how the girl I tried to hook up with and subsequently freaked out over not two weeks beforehand showed up and basically called me a spazzy neurotic.

What happened again? I'm sure I've heard the story, but not in an ILX context.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's all in the thread, K., I'm just getting there now - look for the all-caps.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

You'll notice I am keeping my mouth shut. That's probably wise, right?
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), September 28th, 2005.

that's manipulation
-- RJG (RJ...), September 28th, 2005.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dan also likes to brag about his successful marriage and imagine he knows the "secrets" to being a happy couple -- some of which just sounds like horrible stand-up material (like: "Five years have marriage has taught me, when she gets angry, to just nod quietly and do what she says!!").

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

FOR THE RECORD my point wasn't "gameplaying = thumbs up! :-)"; it was "what you are calling 'gameplaying' is what most people call 'human interaction'"

= Dan Perry OTM.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Five years have marriage has taught me, when she gets angry, to just nod quietly and do what she says!!"

Dude, that ain't bad advice.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

What happened again? I'm sure I've heard the story, but not in an ILX context.

I'm not going into this on ILX any more than I already have.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, because she's probably right, and you'll understand that later. What's so sexist and awful about having learned to subjugate your ego? I wish I could do it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing wrong with it. Argh. I just don't like articulating it like that, with all the "amirite, fellas?" subtext. These two posts are very OTM in terms of understanding my perspective:

Also to Jay: I think you're put off by the fact that we've explicitly verbalized a series of steps that you might take without consciously stating them, and you object to the existence of a "template" in this case. But even having only met you once, I can't imagine that you would behave differently than has been recommended here, because it's the sensitive, SENSIBLE thing to do!

-- Laurel (sininspac...), September 28th, 2005 2:29 PM. (Laurel) (link)

and

I'm actually interested in this semantic crossroads. I mean, J, I can imagine two things that you'd find irksome here. One is that we've been forced to take on the tone of those How to Pick Up Women guys, the type that have all these dumb rules, as if all women are computer games and you just have to push the right buttons to "win." The other is that we're forced to come at it from this normalizing position of how things "should" go and how people "should" act, as if we're all mean to have reality-TV relationships with each other. And yeah, both of these things can reek a little, but this issue seems simple enough that, like Laurel says, those aren't really what's happening here.

[etc.]

-- nabisco (--...), September 28th, 2005 2:54 PM. (nabisco) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I guess since I've been saying EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS FOR THE LAST 45 MINUTES, I can let it go now.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

You go on a first date to the Streets of Woodfield and you see the Ikea in the distance, you might think but not say "Hey, I blew a guy there last weekend." But maybe that would be a good icebreaker.

HEY!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow I think your dates are different from ours.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

"As Amanda would say, gross.

Ha. But that's a Jenny-ism. "

She got that from ME. and i got it from someone else.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Goes back to that whole steamroom/strip club problem.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I didn't think you understood that my objection had more to do with the discourse of the game rather than the game itself. Laurel surmising that the "template" was what was bothering me is totally true. But she and you and Nitsuh (and Dan, for that matter) are all right that there's a certain inevitability to the game inasmuch as human relationships are strategized as a matter of course (hence my image-posting of The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life). I totally get that and agree with that and live my life accordingly (so in the end none of this is really a problem for me, it's not getting in the way of my relationships with people) -- but it still depresses me to articulate it sometimes. I think we maybe nailed it earlier when one of us said that it takes the romance out of it that way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow I think your dates are different from ours.

How so?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

And now, since I had planned on being asleep two hours ago, I'm going to have a cigarette and then go to bed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:33 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot believe how busy it's been around here for the past couple of hours!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:33 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't been posting at night as much these days, so I've gotta compensate!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

it still depresses me to articulate it sometimes

Just because you sometimes talk like you're in a locker room doesn't mean you actually live in one.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow I think your dates are different from ours.

How so?

Just a joke. Never mind.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

I mean you're a filthy whore, Jesse.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am hosting an ever-growing bitterness that stems from my singleness.

I think I am physically attractive enough to find a man whom I also find attractive and I get compliments on my looks sometimes. What I have deduced is that it is my personality that is unappealing to men. When I get in a state and talk about this to friends they assure me "there is a lot to love about you" etc etc, but really considering that I've been single for FIVE years after getting out of a 1 year start-to-finish nightmare of a relationship, this encouragement sounds like something one's mother might say.

Also, I was talking to a couple girls at work and I said in jest "I'm physically attractive enough to find a man, but my personality is what men find repulsive" and those bitches said "Yeh, you're a bit much" and other nice things.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

ha, I said "whom"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

What I have deduced is that it is my personality that is unappealing to men. When I get in a state and talk about this to friends they assure me "there is a lot to love about you" etc etc, but really considering that I've been single for FIVE years after getting out of a 1 year start-to-finish nightmare of a relationship, this encouragement sounds like something one's mother might say.

I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT EMPLOYERS!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

"Don't worry Kenan, you're so hire-able, you have so much talent, you're going to be fine," etc. But guess what? I'm not fine. I'm an arrogant little shit that nobody wants to deal with.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

There is no reason your employers shouldn't enjoy both your personality and your body.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

Tell me all about 10-year-old you

October 21, 1989:

Can you believe it? I?m in sixth grade! My teacher is Mrs. C__. I?m in the band. My teacher is Miss B__. She?s funny, but tough. There?s this girl in band class named Sinetra H__ (whom I can do a great impression of) who got in trouble the other day. It wasn?t that serious. We?re having a concert next Wednesday. Oh boy, I?ve got a lot to write about ? I?m in soccer. Our team is 7-2-0. Mark?s team is 8-0-1. There?s this cute girl who sits in front of me in gym class named Andrea C__ and boy is she ever cute! Ya know ? like ? WOW! Dude! I just sent a letter today to my pen pal, Dan King from Australia. I can?t wait until he writes me back. Oh, you?re wondering about Christy P__ - huh? Well, I dumped her for this hot babe named Andrea (oh yeah, I said that). Remember the 89 Cubs. Great team! (I hate Will Clark) ? World Series ? A?s & Giants. Today would be the sixth game but a 6.9 (on Richter scale) earthquake spelled disaster to San Francisco. Halloween is coming up, as you know, and we?re having a Halloween party. You can send suckers to your friends with something called a Ghoulgram and on Friday, they?ll be given out. Also on Halloween topic ? I?m gonna be an old turn of the century melodrama villain type of guy and Mark ? an old man. Well, my hand is gettn? weary so, GOOD-BYE

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), June 16th, 2003.

10-year-old Jaymc used "whom!!!"

-- nabisco (--...), June 16th, 2003.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

lol

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit. Just reading that was like having a double espresso.

"my hand is getting weary" : a) a 10 year old saying "weary" and b) little did you know that you would be thinking throughout your whole adult life.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I think it's time to go to bed.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

I would go to bed now, but what does it matter? I'll wake up automatically at 8am anyway. It's a curse.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

It used to bother me when my English ex would use a construction such as "I was going to Cambridge, I was, on the train..."

-- jocelyn (nalra...), May 30th, 2006 11:31 PM. (Jocelyn) (later)

You all missed something very important here: Apparently jocelyn used to date a chimney sweep.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think we've decided to try and move in august. Enough with our stupid landlord.

I really wouldn't want to, but does anyone have an experience living in a garden apartment?

http://chicago.craigslist.org/apa/165453979.html

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

I really wouldn't want to, but does anyone have an experience living in a garden apartment?

yes, me and my ex's first apartment together was a garden apartment in oak park. it wasn't bad except that we always had to have the blinds shut and the curtains drawn. our chihuahua would freak out whenever anyone walked by the windows. and even without a dog spazzing out it seems people couldn't help but look in when they walked past. doesn't look like it would be a problem in that place however.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

I've lived in one. But in Greensboro they called it a basement. Mine was 100% miserable for a number of reasons that you would not have to worry about.

That's a GREAT location! And really nice rent for the location. That's what $150 less than what you're paying now in A-ville for 1 bedroom? Nice.

"Sarene location"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

I would go to bed now, but what does it matter? I'll wake up automatically at 8am anyway. It's a curse.

Yep. Same here. This makes me want to look into a regular day job, which I had previously eschewed because of having to get up early. If I'm awake anyway....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so gratified to see that, even though I was a) computerless and b) asleep, I was being quoted such that it felt like I was still present. Bravo.

Jesse, I have...not dissimilar thoughts about my likeability/dateability. Let's get shitfaced and whine about it a lot, it'll be fun! And I mean seriously, if a self-admitted head case like Augusten Burroughs can stumble across a gem of a man while having a nervy b in a sidewalk cafe, surely there's hope for the rest of us?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

anyone wanna buy a LOVE SPELL on ebay?

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Nick: I believe the word is "chimbley".

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Finally, the SWC movie. I'm nervous about this coming out! If it were to suck I don't know what I would ever do!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yep. Same here.

Mornin'!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I have...not dissimilar thoughts about my likeability/dateability. Let's get shitfaced and whine about it a lot, it'll be fun!
I think those who saw my last drunken emotional mess will agree that there is nothing fun about this.

Also, I think I am likeable generally. I get along with everyone and only very rarely is there anyone who does not like me (and when they do it's usually because they think I'm mean, and if they think that, then I'm fine not being friends with them anyway). It's just that I have this magical OFF button on men I might be interested in dating.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Newsflash:

gross (adj.)
c.1347, from O.Fr. gros "big, thick, coarse," from L.L. grossus "thick, coarse (of food or mind)," of obscure origin, not in classical L. Said to be unrelated to L. crassus, which meant the same thing, or to Ger. gross "large," but said to be cognate with O.Ir. bres, M.Ir. bras "big." Its meaning forked in M.E., to "glaring, flagrant, monstrous" on the one hand and "entire, total, whole" on the other. Meaning "disgusting" is first recorded 1958 in U.S. student slang, from earlier use as an intensifier of unpleasant things (gross stupidity, etc.). Noun sense of "a dozen dozen" is from O.Fr. grosse douzaine "large dozen;" sense of "total profit" (opposed to net) is from 1523. Gross national product first recorded 1947.

Hi guys.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

I have a crush boy at work. He is a smoking hot Meximan who is a manager of our carry-out cafe. I found out that he has a boyfriend, but he still sees other men, but before I knew that I was v. interested in him (I don't want to be a mistress to a coupled gay man). A girl I'm friends with is friends with him and she mentioned it. His response? "OK. I don't know who that is. But you know who I want to meet? Tyler." I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STUPID MAN. After some description he apparently vaguely remembered me.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, that smarts.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I think that they were referring to the use of "gross" to mean "disgusting" when use of that word constitutes hyperbole or just doesn't fit (and is therefore humorous). Example: He believes in God. Gross.

I first heard it used it this way when I pointed out to a friend that my phone had an animated bear that danced when as you dialed; his response: "Gross."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Or I have to get up at 6 AM--gross.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

I understand. I'm just saying that I've been saying that since I was, like, 8 years old and so were all of my friends. It's not something that can be a [name]-ism since everyone our age probably uses it that way.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

All of my friends at age 8 = 2 friends

(hehe)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Really? I had never heard it used that way until a few months ago and apparently John had not either. I mean, the dictionary description doesn't really indicate the usage we're talking about.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

No, there's nothing fun about it. I was being sarcastic, as they say. Nevermind.

I have a work crush, too! Except we don't work together and we've never met and I only recently found out his name. But it's something to put mascara on for, anyway.

Herro, Amanda. I never used "gross" like that but I do now -- and every time, I credit you in my train of thought.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you guys are the experts. Nevermind.

After all, I can't drink a cup of coffee without dribbling some on my shirt.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

god, what i would do for even a remotely attractive woman to work in this building. i'm jealous of your work crushes.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

actually, i'd settle for a woman who wasn't alive when kennedy was elected.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

No, there's nothing fun about it. I was being sarcastic, as they say. Nevermind.

Oh, no, I got it. But the memory is fresh in my mind, so I have not quite fully made the move into sarcasm.

The best part of my breakdown: I'm on Broadway next to the Blockbuster that recently went out of business, crying about my fate of being alone forever and I stop for a second and, still crying, point to the empty store and say to Courtney, "Mostly I'm upset because Blockbuster closed! Waaah!"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like my roommate -- she got in a fight with her boyfriend last week and started casting her brain around for grievances and came up with a long list of 'em, ending with "and you didn't get me jelly beans at the movie theater yesterday! WAAAHHH" at which point her bf gave her a long stare and started laughing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Mine was entirely for humor, even as I searched waited to hurl myself under the wheels of the 36 bus.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

A forwarded email, I have no idea how old this is:

Apparently, a tiger momma lost her little babies, and she got all sad and her health started declining, so the zoo decided to give her some other babies.

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/tiger_piglets_image001.jpg

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/tiger_piglets_image002.jpg

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/tiger_piglets_image003.jpg

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/tiger_piglets_image004.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

[passes out]

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah okay but where did they get the mini-tiger skins to put on the piglets huh HUH?? Kind of gross.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Tiger: Huh. I just noticed my babies are made out of bacon....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure they're synthetic. But the one with the bow! OMG!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, maybe I'm a terrible person but at the same time my brain is melting from sheer unadulterated cuteness of interstellar proportions, I can't help thinking that if Momma got hungry, no one would miss those piglets very much. They're sort of disposable, aren't they?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

But she wuvs the pigwets! Shw was depwessed!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

It's twue! It's twue!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Besides, tigers eat even their real cubs if they get hungry enough. But that's not going to happen in a zoo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

but sometimes a ham sandwich just hits the spot.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking as someone who had bacon for breakfast, yeah.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

that is a great dose of cuteness for the morning.

xp oh man, bacon does sound good though.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Where is John? I need the link to that baby name graphing page... or just remind me what it is called so I can google it. No reason.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Fun fact: a BLT is healthier than tuna salad w/mayo.

OMG, you guys, I saw the CUTEST PUPPY EVER yesterday, at the practice space of all places.

Oh, and John, have you seen the recent Time Out Chicago marketing campaign in a mailbox near you?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://babynamewizard.com/namevoyager/lnv0105.html

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

god damn, what i would do for some bacon right now. i wish there was a diner in my neighborhood that opened at like 5:30 because i would totally wake up early to go there tomorrow.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you guys.

(just read insomniac dating discussion)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

i would like some chopped up and scrambled into some eggs with cheese. or on a fried egg sandwich, oh shit, with lettuce and tomato and good cheese and omg. i should get something to eat.

xp ha

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

scrambled eggs..... yeah.

screw it, i'm hitting jewel on the way home tonight and waking up early tomorrow and making my own kick ass breakfast.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm playing iPod Ching, wherein your iPod on shuffle will reveal the answers to these vital questions:

How does the world see you?
Woman in Chains - Tears for Fears (haha!)

Will I have a happy life?
Beautiful Brother of Mine - Curtis Mayfield (right back atcha, brother.)

What do my friends really think of me?
I'll Wait and Pray - John Coltrane (haha!)

Do people secretly lust after me?
Action/Adventure - Andrew Bird

How can I make myself happy?
Do It Again - Steely Dan

What should I do with my life?
Rock and Roll - The Velvet Underground

Will I ever have children?
Bizarre Love Triangle - New Order (Hmmm.)

What is some good advice for me?
Through the Night Softly - Jim O'Rourke (Good advice for anyone, really.)

How will I be remembered?
Too Shy to Say - Stevie Wonder (Come on, you can tell ME!)

What is my signature dancing song?
Go Home, Get Down - Death From Above 1979 (Not bad.)

What do I think my current theme song is?
Poses - Rufus Wainwright (OTM!)

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Giant Steps (alternate take) - John Coltrane

What song will play at my funeral?
After the Flood - Talk Talk (A good choice, actually!)

What type of women do you like?
Centerpiece - John Coltrane (Like, a horn of plenty?)

What is my day going to be like?
Cherry-Coloured Funk - Cocteau Twins (I'm looking forward to this day all of a sudden.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

i'm gonna do the same thing right now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

That's the idea.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'll take a break from Laurel Canyon folk singers to work on this. Dude, noize bored is going to hate chilx SO MUCH today! It's going to be even more tedious than the height/age line-up!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

You have that comp too? What do you think? I think it's ok, but kinda dull. I expected more. That song with the 16 year old girl singing is really eerie though, I like that one.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

How does the world see you?
not a problem- black lips

Will I have a happy life?
i'm not trying to hurt you- knaughty knights

What do my friends really think of me?
2-4-6-8 rock n' roll- m.o.t.o.

Do people secretly lust after me?
darkside- tokyo electron

How can I make myself happy?
feeling gay- black lips (ha!)

What should I do with my life?
sick satisfaction- carbonas

Will I ever have children?
can't feel a thing- busy signals

What is some good advice for me?
never no more- hipshakes

How will I be remembered?
badman- oblivians (ha again!)

What is my signature dancing song?
funny thing- reigning sound (this is possibly the least danceable song on my ipod)

What do I think my current theme song is?
got no home- golden boys

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
without you- reigning sound (i stand corrected, THIS is the least danceable song on my ipod.)

What song will play at my funeral?
possession- dirtbombs (cheater slicks cover)

What type of women do you like?
smashed- gories (too f'ing perfect)

What is my day going to be like?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

missed the last one:

What is my day going to be like?
eye don't like you- final solutions

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Manda, I was just given it for my birthday!! I'm enjoying it altho need to listen on headphones for full effect -- in the office just doesn't cut it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I like it on headphones and also at home while doing housework. Overall, I find it soothing, but not as compelling as I had hoped. The liner notes are great though -- it was as fun to read them as it was to listen to the cd.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

laurel, do you know anything about the princess lefferts hotel? that is, is it really a hotel or is a flop house with the word "hotel" in it's name?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

How does the world see you?
14th Floor – Television Personalities

Will I have a happy life?
The Boy with the Arab Strap – Belle & Seb

What do my friends really think of me?
So Long, Baby – Wedding Present (I’m screwed, aren’t I?)

Do people secretly lust after me?
To Live is to Fly – Cowboy Junkies (well, OBVIOUSLY)

How can I make myself happy?
Wake Up, Boo! – Boo Radleys (THAT I can do!!)

What should I do with my life?
Shine on Me – Lucksmiths

Will I ever have children?
Final Request – Josef K (uhhhhh…)

What is some good advice for me?
Little Child – Beatles (okay, now I’m just confused)

How will I be remembered?
Barrier Reef – Old 97s

What is my signature dancing song?
Why Are You Being so Reasonable Now? – Wedding Pres

What do I think my current theme song is?
Big Brown Eyes – Rhett Miller (the sweetness of the downward spiral...)

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Miss Ludella Black – Thee Mighty Caesars

What song will play at my funeral?
What did Your Last Servant Die Of – Wedding Pres AGAIN (also: CREEPY)

What type of men do you like?
Heaven Sent – Josef K (ahahahahahahaha)

What is my day going to be like?
Split Up the Money (And Run) – Subway Sect (awesome, let’s take the 1)

I have like six DAYS of music here, why are artists repeating? How is the "shuffle" determined, anyway???

Kevin, I've never heard of it, I don't think...?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't think winamp would be able to handle this, but it could!

How does the world see you?
pixies-caribou

Will I have a happy life?
dakota suite-just below the surface

What do my friends really think of me?
the jesus and mary chain-between planets

Do people secretly lust after me?
ministry-work for love

How can I make myself happy?
the rosebuds-waiting for the carnival

What should I do with my life?
curtis mayfield-the makings of you

Will I ever have children?
the rolling stones-rocks off

What is some good advice for me?
mozart-horn concerto no 3 in e flat
pressed next--laurie anderson-excellent birds. because that's so much more helpful.

How will I be remembered?
talking heads- uh-oh, love comes to town

What is my signature dancing song?
magnetic fields-all the umbrellas in london

What do I think my current theme song is?
rem-strange

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
belly-dusted

What song will play at my funeral?
nina simone-love me or leave me

What type of men do you like?
the smiths-shoplifters of the world unite

What is my day going to be like?
lou reed-metal machine music, pt. 2

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jules, those are AWESOME answers! The iPodChing loves you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

laurel, it's the closest place to southpaw that wasn't the ywca according to a search i did. i suppose you don't know anything about the princess hotel (which actually looks closer on the map).

i don't know how the shuffle is determined but i thought it was strange that TWO albums both had two songs out of 15.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

How does the world see you?
Hank's Little Fingers - GBV

Will I have a happy life?
Out in the Streets - The Shangri-Las

What do my friends really think of me?
Heartbeat - Annie

Do people secretly lust after me?
Miss Black America - Curtis M. (???)

How can I make myself happy?
Rough Kids - Wreckless Eric

What should I do with my life?
Hanging Upside Down - Balenescu Quartet

Will I ever have children?
Stephanie Says - VU

What is some good advice for me?
Merely a Man - XTC

How will I be remembered?
Getting in Tune - The Who

What is my signature dancing song?
Way Back in the 1960s - Incredible String Band (not a real dance party here)

What do I think my current theme song is?
Borrowed Tune - Neil Young

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Showstopper - Iron Knowledge

What song will play at my funeral?
Bride of Raindogs - Tom Waits

What type of men do you like?
Anything Could Happen - The Clean (hahaha)

What is my day going to be like?
Old Virginnie - Jean Ritchie

WHY DOES IPOD LOVE CURTIS MAYFIELD SO MUCH? Three people get answers with Curtis? That's weird.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

i love wreckless eric.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ooohh Southpaw's not that far from me, I guess. I can look it up/ask around. WAIT are you coming out??

Hey, I want some Wreckless Eric! I don't have any except one song on a mix tape: "All Around the World" or something similar. And yeah, I think Shuffle is FUX0RED.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Whoah, XP.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

i had two rolling stones songs come up, so i just pressed next (the second one was "happy").

that was for my signature dancing song, and if all the rest were shifted down, it would still be interesting...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I wanna know how my day is going to be like Old Virginnie.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

How does the world see you?
Miss Lucifer's Love - Funkadelic

Will I have a happy life?
Dayvan Cowboy - Boards of Canada

What do my friends really think of me?
Say It Isn't So - Hall and Oates (haha)

Do people secretly lust after me?
Dig Your Grave - Modest Mouse (ohno)

How can I make myself happy?
Tricky Kid - Tricky

What should I do with my life?
Tantz - Idyll Swords (I think "tantz" = "dance" in Hebrew?)

Will I ever have children?
14 Days - Life Without Buildings (so soon?)

What is some good advice for me?
A Means to an End - Joy Division

How will I be remembered?
The Way We Have Chosen (Ellen Allien Remix) - OmR

What is my signature dancing song?
Triumph - Shit Robot (hey, it actually is a dance song, too)

What do I think my current theme song is?
Swingers & Singers (Skit) - Mannie Fresh

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Celebration Day - Led Zeppelin

What song will play at my funeral?
Vine Street - Van Dyke Parks (only if all the men in the crowd wear porkpie hats)

What type of women do you like?
Two Dolphins - The Sea and Cake

What is my day going to be like?
1999 - Prince (woo!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think "Excellent Birds" is fine advice. Also, don't ever -- ever -- pudding spaz.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck it, I'm going to get my ipod from the car.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW, I got Curtis Mayfield on shuffle on the way home from work last night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

i'm thinking about coming out for the dot dash shows at the end of july. probably just the friday & saturday shows, maybe the thursday as well but i doubt it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

How does the world see you?
Happy Face - The Toadies

Will I have a happy life?
Pigs that Ran Straightaway Into the Water, Triumph of - The Mountain Goats

What do my friends really think of me?
Southwest - The Mercury Program

Do people secretly lust after me?
Zerosum - Small Brown Bike

How can I make myself happy?
Walk Together, Rock Together - 7 Seconds

What should I do with my life?
I Send my Love to You - Bonny 'Prince' Billy

Will I ever have children?
Consequence - The Notwist (HAAAAHAHAHAHAHA)

What is some good advice for me?
I Take A Chance Every Time - Saturday Looks Good to Me

How will I be remembered?
Our Coastal Hymn - Les Savy Fav

What is my signature dancing song?
See You On The Ground - ManRay19

What do I think my current theme song is?
Explanation Mark - The Books

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Move Somethin' - 2 Live Crew (roffles)

What song will play at my funeral?
The Swimmer - Sleater-Kinney

What type of women do you like?
I'll Mind You - The Wrens

What is my day going to be like?
Ambulance - TV on the Radio (uh-oh)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

(I think "tantz" = "dance" in Hebrew?)

Yeah, it's "tanz", but that's a transliteration anyway so whatevs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

What type of women do you like?
Two Dolphins - The Sea and Cake

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I like 'em shiny and wet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/5794/MCCLURE.GIF

"Gay? I wish!"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Lest I be accused of inhospitality: Kevin, I'd offer to put you up, but while Southpaw isn't far in BIKING distance, it's WAY too far to walk and I don't think the bus goes very near there. Plus we already HAVE someone on the couch and I don't know when he's leaving; much to my disappointment as I have already had to put off one guest for June.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I could hypothetically check out the hotel for you, though!

Also: who wants copies of Can't Be Satisfied: the Life and Times of Muddy Waters?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

no worries laurel, i'm checking on a b&b which doesn't look half bad and while slightly more than i'd like to pay it would totally be worth it to stay by myself and not to have to split a hotel with 3 other degenerates. it's definitely within sober walking distance, i'll just cab it home at night.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

How does the world see you?
I Want You Back - Jackson 5 (ha)

Will I have a happy life?
I'll Be There - Mama D1gdown's Brass Band

What do my friends really think of me?
Son of a Preacherman - Nancy Sinatra (lolz)

Do people secretly lust after me?
A Mistake - Fiona Apple (roffle)

How can I make myself happy?
My Struggles - MIssy Elliott (appropriate)

What should I do with my life?
Bodhran - Glen Velez (I don't play the bodhran specifically, but I could start)

Will I ever have children?
Let It Die - Fiest (wow)

What is some good advice for me?
Get Your Snack On - Amon Tobin (YES YES YES)

How will I be remembered?
Bei Mir Bist Du Schon - Leroy Jones ("to me your are beautiful", right? Sweet)

What is my signature dancing song?
Graftin' - Dizzee Rascal

What do I think my current theme song is?
Red Balloons - the Fake F1ctions

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Outro - Lil' Rasc4ls Brass Band

What song will play at my funeral?
3121 - Prince

What type of women do you like?
Thousand Island - Reb1rth Brass Band (too bad, the next track on the album is Shake Them Titties/Mercy Mercy Mercy)

What is my day going to be like?
Good Enough - Mama D1gdown's Brass Band (works for me)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

i miss chicago

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, okay, that hotel address is RIGHT by my place, like literally on my way home from the subway. U MAD, that's a long walk. But I think I might know what building it is, and I can check it out later -- it might be for real.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

the hotel is actually closer than the b&b and it's not even a mile and half walk. that's way doable. sober.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the B&B??

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

PS: I HATE to walk. Hate HATE.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting greek pizza for lunch today. FYI

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I love walking. How can you hate walking?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I love to walk.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

b&b is 136 lawrence, 1.3 miles from 125 5th (which is where i'm hoping southpaw is since that's what i'm basing everything on).

i'd prefer to ride rather than walk but i'm way used to walking.

xpost- i was with 3 house guests this past week who don't walk anywhere, you'd think walking from my place to wicker park was like crossing the fucking andes they way they were bitching.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I love B&Bs.

I walked home from work Friday for the first time and it was easy as pie. I should do it again sometime.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

in what neighborhood do you work sarah?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh. Feta and olives and stuff?

We went to a Mediterranean place last night. It was pretty good, not great, but it was run by this old man who was way too nice and sympathetic. He would come over after we ate anything and very earnestly ask if it was good. I ended up eating way more (chicken and veggie couscous) than I wanted to so as not to offend him.

Their prices are kind of wacky, too. $6.95 is cool for a full breakfast plate (although they do a different plate each day of the week and all the good stuff (Greek omelets!) is on weekdays), $9.95 for dinner entree & soup is fine, but $9.95 for lunch is way too much.

xpost to Sarahq

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

walking home from here would take about 4 hours, assuming i didn't get shot or killed going through the west side.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, when my family comes to visit, they bitch after walking about a block (except my Dad who is a champion walker).

I work in River North.. I think? On Halsted.

Yes, Jordan! With Feta (!) and OLIVES!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

i walked from cal's to the rock n' roll mcdonalds then back to the village one night. that was not a fun walk.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

You people are better at chilling than I am, or something... :((((( I get bored with my own brain, so walking is boring and slow and basically "lost" time in my day and I can't READ while doing it. Also it makes my feet hurt and exposes me to eyes/comments of others.

Kevin: I can give you numbers of car services in the area so you know who to call. Dunno what your chances are of hailing a cab off the street in that area -- they might be good but just in case...

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Walking home from work is a daunting proposition from here! I'm thinking it'd take at least 5 hours.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

and I can't READ while doing it.

I've done it. You just have to glance up every once in a while.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

That is amazing, Kevin.

You can people watch, Laurel! Or nature watch! Or listen to your i-pod!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Or talk on the phone. Or sing. Or daydream.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

(L., can I get a copy of the Muddy W. book in NYC?)

How does the world see you?
Small Victory - Carolyn Mark

Will I have a happy life?
Heathrow or Deathrow - The Dears

What do my friends really think of me?
My Funny Valentine - Bill Evans/Jim Hall

Do people secretly lust after me?
Times We Used To Spend - Marine Girls

How can I make myself happy?
20,000 Leagues - Marine Girls [start watching sports?]

What should I do with my life?
Sleeping Bag - Beck

Will I ever have children?
Erie Canal - Bruce Springsteen

What is some good advice for me?
Temperance Street - Shelley Therrien

How will I be remembered?
A Mirage - Edith Fr.

What is my signature dancing song?
Skating In Central Park - Bill Evans/Jim Hall

What do I think my current theme song is?
Pulcherrima Rose - Jan Garbarek

What does everyone else think my current theme song is?
Piano Song - Tindersticks

What song will play at my funeral?
Leaflets Gabe - Modest Mouse

What type of women do you like?
Dance Me To The End Of Love - Leonard Cohen

What is my day going to be like?
Goodbye Old Morning - Shelley Sh.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

i totally people watch when i walk, that's one of the best reasons to do it. i did a lot of people watching monday, i grabbed an iced coffee and sat under a tree in wicker park watching the birds and dogs and the young lovlies sunning themselves. it was nice.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ!

I just wanted to say that. My sister just used it in an email.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

christ on a bun! is my favorite.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Last time I sat under a tree in Wicker Park I looked around and saw a used tampon about 2 feet from where I was sitting. Used. Tampon.

GROOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-SSSSSS.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Nick drank a beer with a tampon in it this past weekend. Not used though.

My middle school was so filthy there were used pads in the hallway. You had to keep your eyes on the ground while making your way through the crowds in between classes OR ELSE!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

EZ, you can have all the books you like, if you don't mind carrying them home. You like Peter Guralnick?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

John, You didn't say if you knew about the Time Out Chicago thing. (or you did and I missed it?)

How about...
CHRIST IN PIGTAILS!

I just made that one up.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well I'll be a greased Jesus!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

What Time Out Chicago thing? (Did they send out another mailer that has the photo of us in it?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

there were no personal hygiene products, used or otherwise, around me in the park. it was nice, there was a little breeze, i was in the shade, the scenery was fantastic. it made me wish i'd brought a book, i would've stayed all day.

then i walked over to santullo's for a slice. MMMMMMMM SANTULLO'S!!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to take a moment to apologize to Jesus. I'm just getting a little upset with some family members and I'm taking it out on you. Very very sorry.

xpost - OH! "Another?" Yeah. I opened up this glossy poster thing and I'm like WOAH! There's John.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I looked around and saw a used tampon about 2 feet from where I was sitting. Used. Tampon.

haha I just wonder how that got there. Be funny if it just fell out.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Also, this should prob be kept on the hush-hush, at least for now, but our guitarist has just quit the band, and we're having a meeting tonight to determine our future together.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

John, Why don't my hips lie? I think maybe they do.

xpost - Shit! Are you upset?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh noes!

Seriously, that sucks.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, not upset. Not a surprise at all. This is like the third time time that he's quit, but the previous two times we were able to persuade him to stay -- this time is final, though.

The best word for it is disheartening, especially since it seemed like a few weeks ago we were on the cusp of success, and then the woman who was going to be our manager basically said she wasn't going to be able to after all, and so we were already probably going to postpone our summer tour -- and it just seems like it's been a long four years already, and it'll be even more of an uphill climb now.

At the same time, sometimes I feel like shaking things up like this can only be a good thing, in that it will give me a fresh perspective on my own relationship to the band.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you can get a new, better, hairier guitarist?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Or better yet, NO GUITAR AT ALL. You already have two keyboardists anyway!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - OH! "Another?" Yeah. I opened up this glossy poster thing and I'm like WOAH! There's John.

Yup, they've been using that poster in all of their mailers. The woman who took all of our promo photos sometimes works for TOC, so when the magazine started she gave them that photo (which she snapped at a show) for them to use.

(xpost -- Jordan, I think we're discussing that possibility!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think I just got offered a job. It's really too bad that I'm not looking right now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

This is when the 17-yr-old shredder with hair in his eyes who just got off the Greyhound joins 'nasta and takes it to the next level. What a crazy time for M-tt, though.

Laurel, I haven't read Peter G.'s books but've read the raves about them. I'll either lug a book or two home or maybe I can send 'em home book rate. Hey, if there's any good audiobooks laying around, I'll be driving from NYC to Buffalo to get home...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't DO audiobooks. *Sniff*

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

...17-yr-old shredder with hair in his eyes...

Faces, prepare to be MELTED.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ahh, the spoken word. In a moving car.

Chicago slow dowwwwFDSNIUJFNRSLI:URE:IOEURNGVLIUBNRVIBCWSILUBCW

John, seriously, this could be a good opp. for the band - find a guitarist from some other known but defunct band and then there's a new audience 'nasta, etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

our guitarist has just quit the band

MIDNIGHT OIL???? OH NOE!

bummer dude. sharks keyboardist quit, tho, and they seem to be doing alright. besides being a bunch of jerks.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

If you guys do want a replacement and can't find anyone, I do know a guitarist in Chi. I don't know if he's a shredder, but he's a rocker and a killer harmony singer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

roffles @ midnight oil

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

You know, that guy is a member of the Australian Parliament now.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

He actually got elected? I thought he ran and lost! Good for him. I liked Midnight Oil a lot in my pre-teen Earth-saving days.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

This would be a good time to have a band screening of Metallica: Some Kind of Monster.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe "Truganini" will now replace Shakira's "Hips Don't Lie" in my head.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

(I think M-tt has told us before that Some Kind of Monster is required viewing!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I remember my Dad playing me a Midnight Oil tape in his truck when I was maybe 10 or 11 and they said "shit" in the lyrics. It was a big OMG moment.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

OH FUCK THAT HIPS DON'T LIE SONG. they play it non-stop in the student union building (where i make internet) and i want to murder someone.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

(I think M-tt has told us before that Some Kind of Monster is required viewing!)

Haha, I love this movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's pretty great.

Hmm, Midnight Oil DOES sound like the kind of music Boomer-ish archaeology professors might listen to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Haha Dan -- your dad and I were totally jammin' to the same music.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, the sinus pressure is killing me. KILLING ME! damn you tree pollen!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

It was 1981's Place Without A Postcard.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, so maybe we weren't.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well, this had to be in like 1990, so maybe. May. Be.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also, my old man is behind the times enough that there's no way he got that tape new. That was right before we went to Australia so I bet he bought it on a whim or someone gave it to him.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Closely related to John's "how would *I* know..." is the old MetaFilter crack "is that something I would need a [media instrument here] to know about?" Ie is that Shakira song something I would need to listen to the radio to know about?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

"YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEEEEEEEEEEEaaaaaahhhhh"
--Peter Garrett

"YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH"
--Shane Macgowan

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

"YEAH OH YEAH"
-- Stephin Merritt

"YEAH"
--Usher

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I AM BUSY but I just want to say that this

I am not a grammar Nazi in casual conversation

is patently false. Not only is Jesse a GN in casual conversation, but he picks very specific and somewhat obscure battles (less/fewer, the objective case of first person pronouns, nauseus/nauseated) to fight.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

a conversation with jesse ain't sounding like no fun.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

"YEAH"
--Usher

That could also very well have been:

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5498806_7_2.jpg

(I just wanted an excuse to post this pic. It's so awesome.)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

wtf is he doing with lord stanley's cup?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Who...is that?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

That's the cloest the Thrashers will ever get.

xpost: Lil' Jon

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Shakira song has gotten lots of radio airplay, yes, although I feel like I only started to hear it recently, after it had already been out for a while. (I think it peaked at #13 a week or two ago and is now on the decline.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Is Lil Jon eating pierogies? I hope so.

Is that the Shakira song that's a duet with some dude?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's her and Wyclef.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Goddammit, now it's back in my head again.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Is Lil Jon eating pierogies? I hope so.

Or possibly empanadas.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmmmmm empanadas.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

anyone awake out there chicago?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmmmmm empanadas.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I went home for a very, very long lunch to eat Memorial Day leftovers and cut up breakbeats.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

There was pecan pie in the office earlier.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

You mean until you ate it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I just did a nice 12-13 miles on my bike. Over to the lake shore path, and way up, and back. It felt gooood.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you had a job now?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Some of us didn't actually know that he'd lost his old job until it became apparent from his posts.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

If that's the case, Kenan... we're still hiring. That's a nice long bike ride for ya.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

What are you hiring for?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

There's a QA job open up here if you want a rilly long bike ride.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wha' happen?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Same shit as before, pretty much. Production jobs, and Peer Review jobs like mine. Email me if you want, I feel like I've clogged this place up with UCP info enough.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wha' happen?

Nothing bad. They just didn't need me, is all. It was kinda weird from the beginning, when on the second day I overheard the developer explaining to someone that the company doesn't need a webmaster. So I knew I was doomed from the get-go. I thought for a while that I was convincing people that I could actually *do* things for them, but no go. Hey, it's their shitty website.

Freelancing is like dating.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, ok. I'm about to hop on that ship and I'm a little nervous.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's a nervous way of life.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm living that dream of working out of a little coffeeshop with free wifi this afternoon, on Broadway two doors north of Belmont, surrounded by young moms and old ladies and guys like me intently staring at screens. But back to work...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

guys like me would be staring at the young moms.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out that as of next week I'll be sharing an office in another building with some dude. I would much rather have a cube of one's own. :(

Maybe I will look at that other QA job!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and did I mention I hate pedestrians and rollerbladers? I hate them. Something else I'm noticing: more often than I'd like, when you call out that you're coming up behind someone, they seem to think it's rude. One lady actually huffed at me as I whizzed by her. Hey, you know what? Fuck you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you should pee in a bathroom, not on/near a lady.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

(heehee)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I also don't think C@nasta really needs a guitarist, necessarily. I guess it might require rearranging some songs, but whatevs.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

FF at the world-famous BAR VERTIGO on Fri., BTW. With the M@nnequin M3n, who are supposed to be good.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I think we rely on guitar more than we used to.

There's a good chance I can make that show, Nick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, Matthew Perpetua describes Antony (of "and the Johnsons" fame) as sounding like "Aaron Neville with a sinus infection."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

bass player for mannequin men looks exactly like a young john lennon.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

i have a cassette of matty p's "demos". it's something else.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

bass player for mannequin men looks exactly like a young john lennon.

Oooooooh lovely. That's a good look to have.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Guitars are kind of dumb anyways. Why are we still using instruments that can go out of tune?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Why are we still using instruments that can go out of tune?

that is the impetus behind my all gong band.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

i have a cassette of matty p's "demos". it's something else.

You're not talking about his April Fool's post, are you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I have been looking at tartans for TWO DAYS and I'm going blind/crazy. Can you believe this stuff is $70-100 A YARD and I need 4 yds of it?!? Also for that kind of stupid money, I'm going to have it forever, which makes choosing something with longevity even MORE important.

XP: Yeah, haha -- look at cowbells, they're fucking AWESOME and never off-pitch!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, stop cross-posting the same thing I'm trying to cross-post. That's TWICE today.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have a feeling he's talking about someone in the Mannequ1n M3n who we're not cool enough to know.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, ago-go bells can sound pretty fucking dissonant sometimes.

Drums and synths are obv. the way to go.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Drums and synths are obv. the way to go.

Well, obv I agree.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Replace guitarist with one of the hot 0ffice typists.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

You're not talking about his April Fool's post, are you?

no, i wish i were. this cassette is from 98 or 99. he gave it to my ex-roomie for reasons we were never able to understand fully. we both speculated on it but nothing really made sense. i found it in the back of a closet in a shoe box with a ton of other casettes (the ex's entire cure bootleg collection from high school was in there). it was one of two tapes i took with me, everything else got shit canned.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I have a feeling he's talking about someone in the Mannequ1n M3n who we're not cool enough to know.

uh, yeah, that's it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

And while we're at it, who needs "soul" in music any more? Let's all just dance to perfectly-timed, perfectly on-key, computer sounds. MusicBot2000 - Share and Enjoy!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. That story means nothing to me, then.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think Office would like the new Phoenix album.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Is Phoenix like AM Gold?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

have a good evening chicago, i'm off to get some dinner.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is Phoenix like AM Gold?

They can be sometimes! But the new one is a little more uptempo and guitar-oriented throughout -- it sort of reminds me of Broken Social Scene, in a weird way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Sharks put the demo I recorded for them on their web page (under mp3s, duh). It's lo-fi but I think it turned out well. And the songs are great.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

I have made few decisions as good as my decision to get a laptop with wireless. Open networks are everywhere and I love it.

Through a random fuck-up I did this

http://static.flickr.com/75/157250187_1f9b2c196f_o.jpg

by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Left Arrow (or Right)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

I got a new song stuck in my head, but I just spent far too long trying to figure out what it was. It's "The Middle" by Jimmy Eat World.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Left Arrow (or Right)

That doesn't work for me.

I'm gonna go home, make some more beats, maybe finish that Malkovich movie, and see Younbl00d tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, we should do a Postal Service album together.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

i want to make one of those.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Got Garage Band?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Then start making beats for me, bitch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

i've got ableton live, and no time to play with it at the moment. also: sweet synth and no digital interface.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

How do I shot beats? This is something I've wanted to do for a loooooong while.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, there's playing them on drums, but I am clueless about samplers, sequencers, etc. I tried to get my hands on a copy of Reas0n but to no avail...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I've often thought about just plunking down the money for a copy of Reason. (All of this is stuff that I've wanted to do FOREVER.) (And tenuousness of band situation right now is making me think about it more.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Not at all incidentally: the new Boris album is massive. I can't get enough of it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

John, LET'S DO IT. I've got Cubase and Reason, and I've got beats for days (but only minutes of chords and melodies).

Here's the "remix" I'm working on (no keyboards yet, but hot beats and some tuba samples):

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=39AD9996326B8BCA

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

John, remember when we were going to make a score for one of nordicskillz' movies? Whatever happened with that?

Also the CHICAGO FAP BAND?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Chicago,

I JUST MADE A "DONUT." It is not a doughnut, and it is not a donut--the TM name on this one is "donut." SEE, What Happen'd wuz that I got this sweet tooth, see, and I didn't have no cake or doughnuts around the house, and for sure no cake doughnuts! So what I did was I broke out a couple of leftover Pillsbury tube biscuits that had been in my fridge (from when I made biscuits and gravy last week), pulled one out, microwaved that sumbitch for 12 seconds, then smeared it with a little Duncan Hines chocolate icing (left over from the yum cake I put together this weekend).

Results: A "DONUT" THAT I AM CURRENTLY ENJOYING.

Love,

JCK

PS-

How about...
CHRIST IN PIGTAILS!

I just made that one up.

Sarah wins. Sarah, come claim your prize.

-JCK

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

strippers for christ

i just had vegan carrot cake and it was pretty good, surprisingly, since i thought all vegan baked goods were dry and bland, from my limited experience. non-cream-cheesy frosting, though, disappointingly. i had a glass of milk with it.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 June 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bofunk.com/photoalbum/62.jpg

(posted with fingers crossed)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh goodie, that worked. NOW YOU CAN ALL ENJOY IT.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Something is dreadfully wrong with me. I was exhausted, absolutely wiped from a day of worry and stress and riding my bike to relieve stress and smoking too much and mild heart palpitations, so I went to be early, and woke up two hours later, wide the fuck awake. I am wired wrong.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

At least we're not now typing on a thread called Chicago: Free Cat.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

You know, when I was in 8th grade, I knew every word to every song on George Michael's Faith album. I still do, I guess. But I don't think I understood them until just now -- not because it takes a thirty year old to follow the sentiments about love and sex and relationships (maybe a 27 year old), but because I knew the words so well I never listened to them anymore. "Faith" is such a great song -- he's deciding, you see, to *not* have casual sex for once in his life, because even though it's killing him not to, he's holding out for someone who really likes him. "Father Figure" is so explicit in its longing for real connection, sexual and spiritual, you can taste it -- but probably only if you've been there. "Hard Day" is a pretty rough trip through a mid-relationship fight. In fact, "I Want Your Sex" is the least specifically adult emotion expressed on the record (those couple of dumb political ditties notwithstanding). Not even Prince gets this deep about love and sex.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

Also the CHICAGO FAP BAND?

YES LET'S DO THAT TOO

Not even Prince gets this deep about love and sex.

Dude, I don't know about that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

I went to a show on a school night, and now I am drunkish and tired.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

I love that album. It is embarrassing to listen to "Hand to Mouth" and a couple others though. (big white lady on a big white doorstep, she wants her mother but her mother is dead, just another hooker that the lucky can forget, just another hooker, they say it's for the best, she loves her little baby, but she kept on living from hand to mouth. hand to mouth. etc. so he (she? i?) ran to the arms of america and she kissed the powers that be. something something. but no one told me, that the gods believe in nothing, so in empty hands i pray, from day to hopeless day, they still might hear me. hear me. )

(na na na na na na, lady looks at your hands, you got 2 fat children and a drunken man. betcha don't, betcha don't, betcha don't like your life, betcha don't betcha don't etc. na na na na na lady look at you man, you shoulda been my lover when you had the chance. betcha don't betcha don't betcha don't like your life now (don't like your guy now))

yeh, i remember 90% of the lyrics, even to the songs i really didn't like.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

why cant you do it
why can't you set your monkey free
always flinging poo to it
do you love your monkey OR DO YOU LOVE ME?

i've had the rest
now it's time i had the best
so you tell me that you won't do any more
but your head is such a mess

so i write your hard a letter
you say you know me better
if you keep on askin' something something
maybe i'll get what i'm askin' for

you keep on dancin baby till that monkey has you on the floor!

--badly mangled, but recognizable

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I don't know about that.

Well, Prince has that Marvin Gaye thing happening, where it's some weird give and take between Sex and God. George has more temporal and practical concerns.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

i will b ur father figure
i have had enuf of crime
i will b ur preacher teacher
anything you have in mind
i will b ur father figure
put ur tiny hand in mine
i will b the one who loves u
till the end of time (churchy organ musics heralds grand end of song)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

And teacher
There are things
That I don't want to learn
Oh the one thing I have
Is my pride

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think the line that really makes "Father Figure" is the repeated refrain of, "Sometimes I think that you never understand me."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day
such a hard day
u had a hard day d-d-d-day-day-day-day

don't bring
don't bring me down
don't bring
don't bring me down my baby!

i want u 2 trust me tuh-tuh-tuh-trust me!

won't bring
i won't bring u down
won't bring u do-owwn my baby!

trust me

won't bring u down

do u trust me

yehhh

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

I like that the "woman's voice" is still his.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

won't bring
don't bring
won't bring u down
don't bring me down
won't bring
don't bring
won't bring u down
don't bring me down
won't bring
don't bring
won't bring u down
don't bring me down
won't bring
don't bring
won't bring u down
don't bring me down

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

I associate "Father Figure" with driving a car with one person in the passenger seat and one person in the back seat, and dropping off the passenger-seat person first and leaving the other in the backseat as I drive through the middle-of-the-night city streets.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

What made me listen to this album was Remy's "songs you're emotionally connected to" or whatever thread. But it seemed like part of the premise there was that the music had to be bad and shameful, and I feel no shame for loving the best British soul singer ever.

T/S the most devastating George Michael song: "A Different Corner" or "Waiting for That Day"?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

or, to put it more specifically, do you get more teary when we hits that high note on "Don't you caaaaaaare?" or when he snarls "I deserve to see your face again"?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

In middle school I used to make my own lyrics sheets for most of my albums that didn't have them or that I had as copied tapes. It tooks hours a day for many days. I wrote down all of The Wall.

I really want to play the Music Shuffle Fortune Telling game, but I HAVE NO iTUNES and 0MB of music on my new computer and my external HD has only Firewire, which the new computer does not! Things are quiet around here.

I do have a new Diamanda Galas 2 CD set (Masque of the Red Death Trilogy). But that's not exactly what I want to hear right now.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

haha Yeah don't play that game with just that one album. The outcome can only be PLAGUE PLAGUE PLAGUE.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)

I associate all of Faith with riding the school bus in Montana. And spending the summer working at the US Forest Service skinning pine logs, building fences with said logs, and taking "fire-watch" drives and hikes (they were just looooooong hikes on which we were supposed to scan the valleys and mountain sides for fires, but which were really meant to keep us busy).

Also, my 8th grade teacher who was kinda creepy, who would let us listen to I Want Your Sex in the classroom because he wanted to seem cool.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

I had a 9th-grade English teacher who was obsessed with Frankie Goes To Hollywood - he had the 12" import of "Relax" when it was banned by the BBC but unavailable in the U.S., and he told us often how much he loved the song. He was also a straight Catholic Scots-Irishman.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

But his testimonials compelled me to purchase Welcome to the Pleasuredome the week it came out. It had a bit of a mythic quality to it by that time.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost--true! a possible outcome of a DG shuffle:

How does the world see you?
We shall not accept your Quarantine

Will I have a happy life?
Let Us Not Chat About Despair

What do my friends really think of me?
Sono L'Antichristo

Do people secretly lust after me?

How can I make myself happy?
FREE AMONG THE DEAD

What should I do with my life?
Psalm 22
(My god, why hast thou forsaken me?
Why art thou so far from helping me
and from the words of my roaring?
O my God, I cry in the daytime,
but thou hearest not;
and in the night season and am not silent.
...thou hast brought me into the dust of Death)

Will I ever have children?
This is the Law of the Plague

What is some good advice for me?
You Must Be Certain of the Devil

What do I think my current theme song is?
Swing Low Sweet Chariot

What song will play at my funeral?
Malediction

What type of men do you like?
Deliver Me From Mine Enemies

What is my day going to be like?
Cris D'Aveugle (Blind Man's Cry)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

Chipper.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I wish I had included a couple other albums so I could have a chance at having "See That My Grave Is Kept Clean" on there too.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

You working tomorrow, Jessie? Up for a bike ride?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

Will I have a happy life?
Let Us Not Chat About Despair

best answer yet, BTW.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

I do work tomorrow. Actual, I have an appointment in the morning, wine tasting in the afternoon and work immediately after. Then a Bud Light tasting at home.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Ah well. Another time. Really, I just want to show off my sexy new tires.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

What's the wine tasting??

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

What's the wine tasting??
-- Eazy (chicagoflaneu...), June 1st, 2006 1:59 AM. (Eazy) (later)

It's the two question marks here that make me think that someone needs a hug.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://chicago.craigslist.org/apa/166630935.html

How close is this apartment to Cabrini Green? Too close for comfort?

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

not too close for my comfort. is your heart set on old town?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it kinda depends on your conception of comfort. Are all of those buildings going to be torn down eventually? I know some are gone, but I didn't know what's happening (he he he) with the rest.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, that was Good Times.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

JOKE FAILED. ABORT MISSION.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

you could've salvaged that with a buildings being demolished by DYNO-MITE! joke maybe. maybe not.

hey laurel, did you see that hotel by any chance? flop house? shooting gallery? den of iniquity?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning everybody.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, ducks -- you told me not to bother. Plus I hurried home to go to a Jewish wedding reception last night, which if you get a chance EVER, you MUST go, especially you boys. The men's side was the room I really wanted to be on, the dancing was ever so much more frenetic and cathartic and they were slipping outside for cigarettes and twirling each other in circles and and and. Wow. The women's room was a bit more sedate, I guess with all the satin gowns and fancy shoes it stands to reason and was still warm and fun but not the abandon of the guys. I mean, how many times do you see TEENAGE BOYS and 20-somethings stomping around and throwing themselves in the air with not a TRACE of self-consciousness and with total joy and confidence in their belonging?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, this is usually what we do when the women are out of sight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I'll check on the hotel soon -- not tonight, though, cos I'll be coming home late again. Weekend is soon enough, right?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

that's right i did do that. well for what they're charging i suppose i should expect a certain amount of seediness.

― ducks (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

no worries, it's cool. it's just gonna be a place to crash for a couple hours for two nights and hopefully shower. i'm pretty sure i know what to expect. thanks though.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not set on old town, i'm also looking for anything around diversy/fullerton and south.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

how far west?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone leaves Andersonville eventually. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Not far, must be with .5 miles of an el stop. Red, Brown, then blue, in order of preference.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

How close is this apartment to Cabrini Green? Too close for comfort?

I think that apartment may actually be *in* Cabrini Green. Yeah, it's being torn down, but that's going to take forever, like any municipal project. And even if you're not afraid of poor black people, who wants a view of a project being destroyed for the next year or two?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

I knew it was too good to be true. Washer/dryer in unit and dishwasher for 1k/m. Not going to happen.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

the actual tear down takes about a week, takes about a month or so to haul away the debris. they just tore down the pj's between van buren and adams around western.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

At 1300, you've got a giant Domnicks/Starbucks/strip mall between you and Cabrini. But it's a little bit of a walk either to North/Cly or Clark/Div, and both could be a little desolate for the middle of the night (though you could cross over on Goethe - not bad.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

.5 miles, right at my limit.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I associate Father Figure with the freedom I felt visiting my mom when my parents got separated. She was suddenly being wild, wearing purple all the time and listening to forbidden music like George Michael.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Any way, I have some other leads that are just as good.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Free Cat

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I keed! I am comeedee-en!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Wow Jeff, I know you're getting rid of your car, but if you weren't, $50 a month for parking is pretty fucking awesome. The neigborhood is in transition, but it's making the transition toward improvement.

I really liked the other Old Town one you posted yesterday too. But in-unit w/d? Super!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Lo-gan Square! Lo-gan Square! The northwest side is the northbest side.

Sorry, I'd just like to have more neighbors to hang with.

EZ: Heard one of your tunes on 848 today!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

In-unit w/d is amazing. Having had it, I don't know that I can ever give it up.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

What's the wine tasting??

It's a work thing. We've been having 2 back-to-back tastings a day* every day this week**. I might skip this one because, though it would make me feel sad to do so, I am tired and feeling run down.

*We've tasted: Groth S.B., Walla Walla Cab, Frog's Leap Zin, St. Supery Virtu (white meritage), Catena Chard and Cab, Vieux Telegraph (100% grenache from chateauneuf de pape) and many more.

**After this weekend I was glad to get back to work and dry out, but then we had these tastings that we are having every day except for Monday and this Sunday (which at my work is the 7th day of the work week). They are very very helpful and interesting, but I JUST WANT TO STOP DRINKING. We tasted 10 to 15 wines during each one....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Lo-gan Square!

No way man. That would be cheap rent, but it is the last outpost before the frontier out there.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

If you loved Oregon Trail, check out Logan Square!

We ate at Boner Terra (ha ha) last night and I fantasized about living there some day (in the restaurant, eating pasta...).

I used to call Settimana Cafe, Sitonyourmomma. ha ha

I am just ROLLIN' today.

Oh, Printers Row book fair is this weekend... hmm...

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Where's John? I think he's avoiding me because my beats are too hot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I am still recruiting for the far North side, but it seems pretty clear that you want to move closer to downtown. But there are some NICE, LARGE, AFFORDABLE apartments up in the Ro-Pa Territory.

― Nanook of the North (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/photos/2005/12-B/sun_proposition.jpg

Sorry, I'd just like to have more neighbors to hang with.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~bjkoski/roffle.jpg

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.der.org/films/images/netsilik-eskimo.jpg

But there are some NICE, LARGE, AFFORDABLE apartments up in the Ro-Pa Territory.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Even better.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty neutral about where we live, actually. I think it would be neat to live closer to/in the loop for a little while, but whatever. I'm letting Jeff drive the apartment finding mission because, frankly, I have a terrible history with crazy landlords and my hope is that if Jeff finds the place, we will rent from someone sane.

So far, my favorite apartment is the one with the in-unit W/D. I don't care if it's in John Wayne Gacy's basement.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Oh come on, guys.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

SARAH J. are you going to the printer's row book fair? I think that would be keen.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think Kr and I might go on Sunday.

I just spent the last half hours fixing a bunch of errors in an obit for a German DJ. Mostly dates, but it also said that trance was a "form of electronica dance music." Not that "electronica" isn't a word, but it sure as hell ain't used like that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

The Bionica Woman

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

JENNY, CHECK YOUR EMAIL I SENT YOU A V.I.E!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Lesbionic Woman

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I'm not interested in moving further north. I want to lessen my commute time and future commute times. Size of apartment is a factor, but it wouldn't hurt us to have something smaller.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Dan - I didn't know about 848! The folks promoting these fundraisers must've given BEZ the song or the CD. Nice!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Number of posts on "try glasgow more" (longest-ever ILX thread): 6306
Number of posts on "Chicago: This is Grand": 3952
Amount of time since "glasgow" was started: 2 years, 4 months
Amount of time since "Chicago" was started: 1 month

WE CAN DO IT

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JJ5R.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0531/nba_a_wallace_395.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/DildoSmack.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

W.T.F.

Who watches Battlestar??

FRICKITY FRACKIN FRACK. FRACK ME. OH, FRRRRRAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKK!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I have to confess that I don't even know what Battlestar Galactica is.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Tee vee show? Miniseries? Movie series?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wikipedia?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I know how to look it up, poophead, I'm just continuing the tradition of "I have no idea what you're talking about" because I don't usually chime in on that. Gah.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

It was a really shitty TV show.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

which got remade more recently, and the first season starts out confusing but gets kind of addictive.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

ok thank you, that clears it up. it's one of those titles that i know sounds familiar yet i have no clue what it refers to.

i just got a very strong desire to go swimming.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

well, not really remade, because i've heard that it's quite different. they took some of the characters and general premise stuff. i never saw the original, though.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

took=kept

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel is a Battlestar Galactica fan.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck! It didn't like my fake "jaymc" and "/jaymc" HTML tags there...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

i would probably be a battlestar galactica fan, too.

also: saw "Serenity" last week. wtf man, that shit sucks. funny "western" talk on a spaceship? grody.

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I used to watch the original all the time. I heard they made Starbuck a girl in the new one, which is kind of weird. I refuse to wtach either Firefly or Serenity. (And I have a special sort of affection for "Father Figure" as my closest friend and I lke to break out into it when we see men who desperately need a) a hug or b) to get laid.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Me me me me me re: BSG. Although I'm catching up on DVDS cos I didn't have cable when the eps aired, and the DVDs aren't out yet for the 2nd half of season 2. Which is really PISSING ME OFF because I just watched the last disc LAST NIGHT and the cut-off is "to be continued", which just...ARRRRGH!!!

Also: The new series takes place 40 years later, people, and Starbuck is just a nickname for the hottest hot-shot pilot on board.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO I HAVE FOUND MYSELF THINKING "FRACK" IN REAL LIFE, LATELY.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

fuck you with a bag of flying fuck, kenan

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I go to lunch for 45 mins, and everyone has usurped my role on ILX, from Amanda's statement of ignorance re BSG to Dan's database-mining factoid re Laurel.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

who's in the loren greene role as the wise old soul/father figure on the new one? does he cut it? did he also used to do alpo commercials?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.southparkstuff.com/images/stories/characters/animated/carttux.gif

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

to jon's posting as other people.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

who's in the loren greene role as the wise old soul/father figure on the new one? does he cut it? did he also used to do alpo commercials?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/sfbuzz/AdamaStrength-1024-768.jpg

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

to jon's posting as other people.

What?

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I refuse to wtach either Firefly

Oh oh oh, I think I had a dream about Firefly last night. That's weird, since I've never even seen it. I wonder what the dream was about. The only thing my brain is dredging up right now is a sort of crimson -- maybe the color of the DVD box?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

fuck funnny animated gif embed ruined :(

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

crybaby

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.flutterinn.com/smiley-cry.gif

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://labelscans.anorakrecords.de/scans/L/LavernBaker_OneMonkey_DJ.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I love Firefly/Serenity. All you haters can go straight to hell and fuck yourselves.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

all ye haters can go straight on down to the furnace and stick yer own stick in yer nethers.

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what firely/serenity is/are. so i guess it's pergatory and masturbation for me?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I second (third?) the love for Firefly and Serentiy, especially the terrible, TERRIBLE theme song.

BSG I only hate on because my housemate loves it, and I must destroy all that he finds beautiful.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not a hater, I just think Serenity is an adult undergarment and Firefly is probably a browser or something.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

is an undergarment different from a foundation garment?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Serenity is an undergarment you pee in. A foundation garment holds your boobs up or your belly in or something like that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

i still learn something new every day. thanks milkmaid.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

You got it, hoss.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh animated gif irony

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I like Firefly a lot, and I'm not a huge Whedon guy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

i'm all for spaceships and cowboys and stuff, but that dialogue was terrible

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I find it helps to be slightly drunk when watching it. Oh, and suspending something something disbelief.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I ALREADY SAID I LIKED SPACESHIPS

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I find it helps to be slightly drunk when watching it.

you could say that about nearly anything. except maybe a newborn.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

but that dialogue was terrible

Then you can't be a Whedon guy at all. Don't worry -- it doesn't come with a lot of perks.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

you could say that about nearly anything.

Nah. There have to be plenty of things that don't go with drunk. Let's list:

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

watching the interviews with him on the DVD pretty much confirmed that i could NEVER be a whedon guy. he's totally embarassing.

xp did you just accidentally list yourself as number one?

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

Yes, you could easily take it that way.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

It has some good joeks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Also, for the record, I hate Buffy and Angel.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh OH don't EVER actually watch any interviews with J Wheedon directly. Never. Never ever. He's a horrble, horrible man. He should never be allowed to directly address his audience, but merely speak through characters.

you could say that about nearly anything. except maybe a newborn.

HAR!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Listen, Chicago, I grow weary of the Illinois Adiminstrative Procedure Act. Tell me everything will be okay.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I used to wonder why so many of my bright, funny, normal friends were obsessed with Buffy, because I didn't see it at all. And then I started watching the first season in reruns, and got it, you know like "OH! It's... that thing!" And I watched the whole series two hours at a time, every day after work for months. And now I can't remember what that thing ever was, so I guess I've come full circle.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I grow weary of the Illinois Adiminstrative Procedure Act. Tell me everything will be okay.

I wish I could, but I grew weary just reading the title.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think Serenity and Firefly are funny and feature attractive women.

I think the first 12 issues of Astonishing X-Men are way overrated, but the new "season" is great so far. And that's pretty much where I stop with Whedon (no Buffy/Angel thx).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.filmfestivals.com/filmweb/spacecowboys/space_cowboy.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

All of those men should be ashamed of themselves for being involved with that movie.

I have no beefs with Buffy, and used to enjoy watching it sometimes. I have never seen Angel.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.discodue.com/catalog/images/0100011%20galactic%20cowboys%20-%20space%20in%20your%20face.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I take it back, I did see the musical episode of Buffy and that was pretty amusing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

GOIN on a year now I ain't had nothin' twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries!

-- MECHANIC CHICK FROM SERENITY

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

SPACEFUTUREBABES NEED LOVE TOO

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I watched the Hush episode, a tape of which was eagerly given to me by the same friends who invited me along to their fourth expidition to see The Matrix.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Today is the 18th anniversary of the first "Old Timers," which was a comic strip about the foibles of two senior citizens named Frank and Bertha, written and illustrated by me. I think the strip really hit its stride during the 1988 presidential election, when there were jokes about pork rinds and Frank and Bertha have to run across a life-size newspaper headline (which I traced) in order to discover that Bush won. Probably jumped the shark when their grandchildren start showing up as characters.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/j/jamiroquai~_returnoft_101b.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

This Firefly Galactica stuff officially qualifies as "not my bag."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost Quick! Somebody call Art Speigelman to write a think piece about it!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, this is just genius.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I chuckled.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

i printed it for later reference (on the train)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

nick and sarah im late...but congrats!

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, maybe not genius. Me and my fits of hyperbole. I am permanently festooned by purple outbursts.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

slow jamz, what's up with wily mo needing surgery?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

hamate bone...a useless bone but yet it requires surgery.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, you said something in the coffee thread about how DD is now owned by someone else who is creepy in some way? Can you explain/elaborate? I could potentially drink a lot of DD coffee if I wasn't paying attention, just because there is a DD every half block in the loop.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

wtf, this was the same wrist that bothered him last year. was this an existing injury? just didn't show up during the physical? hopefully trot will stay healthy until pena can come back.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

jenny i think he's referring to the fact that the carlyle group owns a good deal of it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

These guys? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, they're one of the 3 investment groups that bought the chain.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

mega-rich international death merchants seem to have ground the thread to a halt.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Haha! Ground. And they bough Dunkin Donuts. And Dunkin Donuts serves coffee. Ground coffee.

GET IT???? HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that funny. I'm just very very tired.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

it was pretty funny.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, good, that stupid gif is gone.

Also, it ws funny enough.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

have i mentioned that my left ear is still ringing from the oblivians show on saturday? 'cause it is.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Chris!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Business Wire; 12/12/2005
BOSTON & NEW YORK -- Strong Growth Potential Seen Through U.S. and International Expansion- Current Management to Stay, Grow the Business

Bain Capital Partners, The Carlyle Group and Thomas H. Lee Partners today announced that they have reached a definitive agreement to acquire Dunkin' Brands, Inc. from Pernod Ricard S.A. for $2.425 billion in cash. The transaction is subject to standard regulatory approvals and is expected to close in the first quarter of 2006.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

have i mentioned that my left ear is still ringing from the oblivians show on saturday? 'cause it is.

I had a conversation about the Oblivians with this girl who came to see X3 with us. She going to be, like, teaching at Yale in the fall and publishing books and shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

i heard there'll be a new 7" from them.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 1 June 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I just Friendster'd this girl I had a crush on in high school, who's going to be teaching at Harvard this fall! She was very ... literary.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 June 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I should hope so!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://patsabin.com/illinois/grandpacific.jpg

― Ruthie Tooth (Ruthie Tooth), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

So today I get a call from my recuriter that lead me to the job I have now. Turns out he is unemployed and was asking if I knew any jobs. Which I do, since mine is about to become vacant. ISN"T IT IRONIC>

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

The ciiiirrrcle of worrk...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

Is there any chance of getting rid of that gif?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mrhog.com/biketoberfest/guy%20with%20fuck%20you%20you%20fucking%20fuck%20shirt.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not making it better, I know. Moderator, plz delete both those posts. Thank you kindly.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, what have you done to the thread?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

I must admit it is better than that bullshit from earlier today. Better placement, too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

My friend tried to lend me Serenity tonight, incidentally, after we watched the Constantine (well, I only caught the end). It was...interesting? Tilda Swinton was awesome, as always. I haven't read much Hellblazer though.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

I must admit it is better than that bullshit from earlier today. Better placement, too.

I think I missed all the bullshit.

I saw Constantine on the flight to Switzerland last year. From what I could decipher out of the tiny picture and bad sound it was kinda terrible, but Keanu was surprisingly okay.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

I must admit it is better than that bullshit from earlier today.

I don't understand. Has the sad face gif gone away for you? I still see it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, wait... you guys are only seeing the last 50 posts. That's why.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

From what I could decipher out of the tiny picture and bad sound it was kinda terrible

Yeah, kinda. And yet... I liked it way more than I had any right to.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

I've been playing Sim City 2000 for about four hours now. It's the only computer game from 1995 that I would even think about playing anymore. It's timeless. Especially if you cheat, get millions of dollars, drop taxes to zero, legalize everything, and set about to building awesome subway systems while the people of your town throw you a parade every five minutes.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think the gifs ad character. They are the dents and battle scars that have accumulated on a well-loved topic. (Are these Kenan's or are they from that dumb-ass JW guy who comes by every now and again?)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

He put up the smily face, I put up the angry biker's rude shirt.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

And as I just discovered, if you set to view only 50 posts, the smiley goes away.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, see I set it at 100 because of a couple really busy days around here.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, me too, usually.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Chicago:

I am 31 years old and I cannot help but screw up my checking account. I write only 3 checks a month (sometimes 4 if I don't have yoga cash on me when my membership comes due) and yet I have somehow amassed 6 You-Fucked-Up fees (1 for the original offending check, 2 for the subsequent bounced checks and 3 more for debit purchases that I made in complete blissful ignorance of teh fact that I was in the red.

Why am I a moron?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

You are not alone.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's been well-established that I AM ALONE.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

Just turn on with me and youre not alone
Lets turn on with me and youre not alone (wonderful)
Lets turn on and be not alone (wonderful)
Gimme your hands cause youre wonderful (wonderful)
Gimme your hands cause youre wonderful (wonderful)
Oh gimme your hands.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

Are you coming on to me?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

My sister sent me a song by Jose Gonzalez last night called Heartbeats. So I listened to it this morning and am like... wait, I KNOW this song. So I sent her The Knife version. Question - who wrote it? One or the other or neither?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

a quick google search reveals:

"Lots of people are raving about the José Gonzàles song that is featured in the Sony Bravia advertisement that’s on TV and in cinemas. The song in question is called Heartbeats. His version is good, I bought it myself from iTMS. But lets not forget the original version by the inestimable Swedish duo, The Knife. It can be purchased on iTMS as well."

so there you go.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

What is a "Bravia"?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

So the Postal Service, they're kind of boring, eh?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

sarah, what time do you guys go on tonight?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

He put up the smily face, I put up the angry biker's rude shirt.

Oh, I have images turned off so I missed the whole thing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

I just ended a phone coversation like this:

Him: "Talk to you soon!"

Me: "Talk to you later."

We were just spitting out our standard sign-offs, I'm sure, but it made me sound kinda cold.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

You should have said, "Yeah okay! See you never!"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what a Bravia is, either.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

a quick google search reveals it to be a flat panel plasma tv.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what google is, either.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

it's a company that makes eyes for muppets.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

WHERE IZ EVERYONE? I'm leaving the office at 1pm, motherfuckers, so get your posts in now.

xoL

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm doing what i can. talking to myself is one thing, typing to myself is something else entirely.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

so what are you listening to chicago?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

glad you asked, mind controls lp by the mind controls. they had me dancing up a storm at the blackout. it's got my head bobbing and my knee hopping here in my cubicle.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Deerhoof. I tried Postal Service already, which aside from some high points wasn't very interesting, and I tried AC Newman which seemed okay and then I kind of lost interest. Patience in short supply today.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

I need more people to share their iTunes lists in this office. Or colleagues with better taste.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ghostface, Offshore Presents Troubled Waters (dn'b comp), D'angelo, Van Halen "Drop Dead Legs"

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to think of what to do tonight.

1. Stay home and clean up the place b/c my M&D are coming through town on Sunday and staying the night.
2. FFs at some bar that I don't know.
3. Call that crazy overagressive girl that was hitting on me at the comedy show.
4. ???

Tomorrow I am meeting a friend for lunch in Wrigleyville. Any suggestions of places that do not suck and also have alcohol?

xposts: Fridge

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Man, that girl was NUTS. I barely got out alive!!!

...

Maybe I should call her.

lol

― The Dan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Got me! :)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

bar vertigo is on western about two blocks south of the bottle, that's the bar ff's are at. wish i knew what time.

laurel, passout records in brooklyn is having their grand opening this weekend. i think bbq is playing, i'd look it up but most music/record sites are blocked. bbq (aka mark sultan) is the genius behind the mind controls. if he's playing and you're not busy i strongly urge you to check it out.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow I am meeting a friend for lunch in Wrigleyville. Any suggestions of places that do not suck and also have alcohol?

holiday club at sheridan and irving park.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

The dude mentioned the Twisted Spoke. He is a motorcyclist.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm busy getting in my 5 resumes a day. I promised myself I'd send out at least five, every single day. Does updating your Monster.com resume count as one?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

The answer is 10.

Hi.
Hardly anyone is at work today. I think I'll make a milkshake. I brought in fresh strawberries and a Spirutein pack. We have skim milk in the fridge from a birthday yesterday (it went with the cake and ice cream).

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever seen a biker in the Twisted Spoke.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

xpost The answer to what is 10?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

whiskey wednesdays!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

hopefully what time they're playing. i walked past the bar on my way home yesterday and i thought i saw a flyer that said 9 pm. i figured it was doors but didn't know if that meant bands at 9:30 or 10.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Dan just sent me this to give to anyone interested in writing about music. I have no idea what it's about.

CALL FOR PROPOSALS
Performances, Workshops, Papers

Time, Sound, and Transcendence: Forging a New Vision for Improvised
Music Pedagogy and Practice

The inaugural conference of the International Society for Improvised Music.

The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan
Dec 1-3, 2006

Featured Artists/Speakers: Steve Coleman, Janne Murto, Stephen
Nachmanovitch, Pauline Oliveros

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Bands at 10. 9 is a LIE! a LIE I TELL YOU! or Doors. Whatever.

The answer to everything is 10.
Or is it 37?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

if anyone makes a 42 joke, you dead.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the Knife song came first, and Gonzalez covered it. He also does a pretty cool version of Massive Attack's "Teardrop."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think you already covered that territory, Ev. WHICH MAKES YOU THE GEEK.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I've been listening to Cubs in Five by the Mountaingoats over and over because I'm trying to learn how to play it on the guitar. I've got the left hand part okay, but I can't move my right hand fast enough yet.

I can sing it real good though!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ok. So my sister kept saying they are the same song, EXACTLY. And I'm like, WTF? The melody/lyrics are the same, but they are different songs. So I think I must have sent her back the same thing she sent me. Or her computer got confused since it had the same file name. Whatevs.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Barring any unforeseen catastrophe, I will be there tonight. I listened to Raw Yang on the train this morning.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

and i will love you again
i will love you
like i used to...

i hate that song now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the answer was twelve?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

the question is how fast.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Superchunk?

Random thought: What does "meteoric rise to fame" mean? Don't meteors fall?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and yeah, FF's is hot on my iPod lately. I like knowing the names of the songs finally. I even included the artwork, so I can look down at my cute little screen and see that cool cover.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Current fave track: "Time Machine." But that changes.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

yes the 'chunk.
meteors go really fast.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

are you coming on to me?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Surely there are things that go *up* really fast. Besides rockets.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday's home listening: Alog (spare), Growing (more spare), Stars of the Lid (I fell asleep). Today is for pop, I've decided.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think the trouble with Stars of the Lid is that I always turn it up loud, close the curtains, close my eyes and pretend I'm in a scene from 2001. (God -- how old is this record? Ten years?)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to tell the FFs that "You Got It" is my favorite track (on the album and in general, right now) because I'm a little in love with the way Sarah says, "oh yeh." I was singing that to Jesse one day and then we made up terrible substitute lyrics about peeing on people, which made me feel kind of guilty, even though it was done totally out of love.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I'm learning a song you hate, Kevin. I just like to sing about how the Cubs suck. Plus I have been working on my John D. impression for years now (I have to be careful or I put too much Ethel Merman in my voice) and I'm excited to finally get to put it to good use.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

it's not about how the cubs suck, it's an ode to a blissful, hopeful time when all will be right with the world. it's also a very evocative song for me regarding my ex so i now hate it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/78/158753266_df077201bc_o.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

it's not about how the cubs suck

I know, dawg. I'm sorry it evokes. I hate Sheryl Crow for similar reasons.

Actually, I hate Sheryl Crow for a lot of reasons.

xpost - HA!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great, great t-shirt.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm talking to myself around here today, I think.

Why did the Raconteurs steal the bassline from "Is She Really Going Out With Him"? I mean, it's a great bassline -- well, maybe that's why.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I am listening to you, or reading you anyway.

Nick got out superearly today, so we're going out for lunch together. YIPPEE!

It's ok, Jenny. It's only natural to make songs your own, and for you that might mean singing about peeing. I usually turn songs into ditties about my cats. For example, instead of singing super bon bon Super Bon Bon Super Bon Bon, I sing 'Toonie Bon Bons Toonie Bon Bons Toonie Bon Bons,' Toonie being one of Pepper's gazillion nicknames.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I told you about how I sing "Food for the Kitty," right? I still think it's funny. It's nice to have an audience that won't make fun you for being a lame-o.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's a Sheryl Crow kind of day outside.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I was just looking out the window and thinking, "I want to be dumped by Lance Armstrong."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Man like that is married to his bike, anyway. I thought she and Kid Rock made a good pair.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

i still need a copy of raw yang. ben f0ng tried to download to me a copy, but i was all "NO WAY, COMPUTER, I DON'T STEAL FROM PALS"

also, it was in .wma, so fuck that garbage.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

A coworker from back in my kitchen days used to make up the crudest, grossest, funniest lyrics to the endless crap that droned on the two radio stations we listened to the most. An example was the chorus to a Sheryl Crow song: instead of "I wanna soak up the sun" became "I wanna guzzle some cum" and so on. Nowadays it kind of makes me blush to repeat that, but back then it was exactly the right thing to say for some reason.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

that's because you were 18

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Probably.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, the guy still works at the same restaurant.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

ben f0ng tried to download to me a copy

http://www.sfsu.edu/~news/cmemo/spring05/Ben_FongTorres.jpg
???

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if C4n4st4 is available to download on p2p. I don't know why it's never occurred to me to look it up on Limewire.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^means how do get a copy out in MONTANA, dudes? If I book a Sharks/FF double-header at, uh, the Zebra (eww) in Bozeman, will you guys totally drive out and rock???!!!?? HUH????

xp BF is a Shark and former roommate, John, get on yr game.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I know who Ben is. I don't think I realized that he shared a last name with the legendary Rolling Stone journalist.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if C4n4st4 is available to download on p2p. I don't know why it's never occurred to me to look it up on Limewire.

Not on Indietorrents.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

"I wanna guzzle some cum" is a pretty good modification for a Sheryl Crow song and I am going to sing it that way henceforth.

Sarah, I used to sing that song to my rabbits when I had them. I would sing "super bun buns super bun buns." The rabbits, in reply, would poop and then chew on something I cared about.

My favorite song to sing to our cats is "All my kitties living with me, throw your paws up at me!"

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Not on Indietorrents.

How do you know? Do you have Indietorrents at work? And how can the FFs already be on p2p when they just released their album like two weeks ago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

my post was ill-timed. those arrows don't mean that FF is on p2p.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

If it were available on p2p networks, it would be because somebody uploaded it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Then what does this mean?

also, it was in .wma, so fuck that garbage.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

IS HTAT HOW AN INTERNT WORKS????

xp - means that ben hosted it on his own site, but only had it in .wma.

but i said NO, because of the reasons stated above re: pals and cash money.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Like, I could go home and upload FFs, C-nasta, Office, Eric Z RIGHT NOW and totally steal money from your pockets and bread from your table.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Let me know if you'd like me to do that.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

If it were available on p2p networks, it would be because somebody uploaded it.

Yes, thank you, I know how the Internet works. My question had to do with the fact that there are approx 1000 copies of We Were S3t Up in circulation, and Dan tells me none are on Indietorrents. So I was confused why the FFs should be on there and we are not. But gbx has informed me that they're not p2p either. So confused.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you understand, Jenny -- I want to be on the p2p networks! It would legitimize us!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously? Then upload the album!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you knew how the internet worked. Guh.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Like, I could go home and upload FFs, C-nasta, Office, Eric Z RIGHT NOW and totally steal money from your pockets and bread from your table.

according to the radio ad i just heard, this is exactly what illegal immigrants do when they move to the united states! except that they might actually come into your house!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

But they also buy all the ugly American flag shirts that we don't want to wear, so it all balances out, don't you see?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like to upload music to share. It makes me paranoid. Plus, it's obv better if other people do it -- that's the part that's legitimizing: knowing that other people like us and think we're awesome enough to be available to download alongside their Sufjan Stevens and their Destiny's Child.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

i will do it for you, then. first, i need the album, tho: p2p?

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

How do you know? Do you have Indietorrents at work?

Indietorrents is just a website. You could go there now, just add a dot com to the name. If you're a member, you can log in and search to see what people are sharing. Searching for "Canasta" provided no hits. That doesn't mean that no one has ever shared it, just that no one is currently sharing it.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

You guys should all buy the album, though. M-tt's gotta eat.

xpost Huh. I am still wandering in the wilderness when it comes to torrents.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff would surely put it up on o!nk for you. He has already joked about doing so more than once, but I always said, "No! money from pockets, bread from table, danger to the American way of life, shivved by jaymc, etc."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

o1nk login plz.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

And, as an aside, I had this great joek idea. I got handed a demo CD-R of some Chicago rappers by a guy on the train a few weeks ago. I was going to up it to IT, plaster it with ADVANCE and PRE-SALE tags and the like, and watch my ratio go through the roof while people madly download the record. Of course, it's probably terrible (I haven't listened yet) and doing this would probably get me banned, but it was a funny idea. My housemate was even going to post a request for it.

xpost: I had one, but they killed it due to inactivity ;_;

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I thought we already had it. If not, I'll buy it and then Jeff can upload it.

xpost again - I don't know. I think you need an invite or something and then there's a ratio thing. Jeff is yr man for o1nk-related things.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

What the fuck is OINK? I understand "hen fap" way more than I understand "OINK INVITE," in terms of things-said-on-ILX.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

lolz

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

O|nk is another torrent community, like IT but biiiiiger.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'M SORRY JOHN DON'T SHIV ME PLEASE!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ paranoid googleproofing

― and what (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Paranoid? No, more like a semi-ironc "cannot speak the name of" thing.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Or is it paranoia that leads you to type "M-tt?"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Like G-d? Or "the Scottish play"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

EZ used "M-tt," so I went with it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, I see. Yeah, sort of like that.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

O|nk is another torrent community, like IT but biiiiiger.

http://i20.ebayimg.com/03/c/00/c1/e4/45_7.JPG

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

just call him Peter Garrett xp

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I will readily admit to some paranoia when it comes to all things p2p related.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3d/Ac.garrett1.jpg/200px-Ac.garrett1.jpg

???

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Even though it's a different guy I'm still chuckling at the Midnight Oil thing.

xpost (vocalist vs. guitarist)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

ohhhhhh. whoops!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of paranoia, I got stoned last night, and it wasn't very fun. I couldn't concentrate, and because I couldn't concentrate, I thought Kr was mad at me, but really I think I only thought that because I was paranoid. And it seems like weed is good to totally just space out, but it's not good for really focusing on something, even if that something is just being attentive to a loved one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think about it a lot, but I would have killed for some weed when we watched the Croc Hunter movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Especially if they are not partaking as well. That always made me uncomfortable. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

The only time I ever miss smoking pot is when I have to do something really boring, like lots of dishes or cleaning. I always found it was good for focusing part of your brain on boring things while letting the rest of it just go do whatever it wants to do.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

You can buy our cd on THE INTERNET.

John, did M-tt front money for the album by himself? I mean, you said HE has to eat...

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone want to play literati with me? I'm bored.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Especially if they are not partaking as well. That always made me uncomfortable. xpost

No, no, it was her idea.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, you said HE has to eat...

As a band, we have it worked out so that he gets some of the profits along the way, since he puts the lion's share of work into it. And because he just cobbles together part-time and freelance work otherwise, those profits are important to him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Then I think you just need to RELAX, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.

http://www.lightshow.cc/explorer/Images/Kaleidoscope/Tie_Dye/lightshow_tie_dye_013.jpg

xpost again

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, band profit structures.

We have a CEO/CFO arrangement in our band, with a non-transparent/trickle down payment system.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, she's a lot more of a pothead than I am. I felt stupid for even having a bad reaction to it last night, like I was a total amateur or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think the 0ptimistic might have our first gig a week from Tuesday! Opening up for a band called B00tyjuice!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

They must be cool if they name their band a Fear of A Black Hat reference!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

That lightshow pic actually did make me feel relaxed. Crazy.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

xpost I can't tell if you're serious or not. That's a really funny movie.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm just a human"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I agree! I think it just got reissued, I kind of want to pick it up.

xpost: My peanuts are big and large

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

That's a really funny movie.

I have never seen it, not once!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

"You see, the butt is like society."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

"This is an uzi. It's a good gun for a beginner, because you just spray the area."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

"If you take that bus... you'll get there"

I almost posted the butt quote...

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray phone interviews! I'm good at those.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Me too! Is it this afternoon?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

It just happened.

She just called back, and is grilling me about javascript. I cannot lie -- I can only fake my way through javascript. (Which is what most people do, honestly.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck!

I feel irrationally guilty about not wanting this other job that an ex-coworker contacted me about. It seems like a wasted opportunity, even though I'm not unhappy at my current job.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

I just heard back from another agency, too, and they said that the client they had pitched me to said I was "not a good fit." Which is fine! I'd much rather hear that initially, on the first date as it were, than eight weeks later like at my last job, when it sounded like total bullshit. Like I said, I knew on the second day that they didn't really want me, but they kept leading me on. I was just too stupid to cut out early. I was too needy. My friend Marcy is right. Freelancing really is like dating.

But whatever, I got my five resumes out today, and five yesterday, and there'll be five more for Monday. And in the meantime, my kitty is very appreciative of my being around all the time. She's a much happier animal.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

What are people up to before the show tonight? I'm staying at work until around 7 pm, and I don't know that I want to go home before going back out again.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

retrowash is just up the road john, if you're really stuck you can watch my laundry while i go over to the bottle for the hoyle brothers free show for a couple of pops. last time i did that i got a load of laundry stolen. most of my band t-shirts are gone and a couple of pair of work pants. same thing happened to this japanese kid who was in there when i was there two weeks ago. so watch out for laundry thieves, ukrainian village.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

When you go into the laundromat, take careful note of any dudes sharing your height and build!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

holy crap i don't know how i did it but i have completely cleared my plate and there's still 45 minutes left in the work week. this can only mean one thing: i'm forgetting something.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

When you go into the laundromat, take careful note of any dudes sharing your height and build!

you can bet your ass i'm looking for suspects wearing a slovenly records t-shirt. i actually think i know who took the japanese kid's stuff, there was a puerto rican dude who threw all his stuff into a bag and walked out when i was putting my stuff in the washer. my back was to him so i didn't notice but now i realize, he wasn't in the back of the laundromat where the dryers are, he was up front by the washers. so he lugged home a big bag of wet asian hipster clothes. the dude with the puerto rican flag do-rag is probably 4 inches shorter and 60 lbs. heavier than the japanese kid who came back 25 minutes later. and if i type "japanese" as "japansese" one more time i'm going to scream.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't want to parse the name B00tyjuice too closely.

Sarah, I could maybe sneak in a round of Literati if you're still around.

I like writing M-tt when I'm writing about 'nasta, especially if we're talking about stuff that is kind of band gossip or personal stuff.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, I don't think I have enough time now, but thanks.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

In one hour I am meeting law school chums for beer and I am v. happy about this.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I shan't make it to the FFs show, alas. BUT YOU GUYS ROCK OUT REAL GOOD, ya'hear?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, do you know how much the show is? My friends are poor.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to sneak out in about forty minutes and buy a bocce set.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I think $5? I could be making that up, but I don't think I am. I don't know if there's a guest list, Dan, but if there is I can put you on it.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

tonight i'll be at the viaduct theatre then beating a hasty retreat to phyllis' musical inn to try to catch the tail end of the angel sluts/six string jets set. amo a las angel sluts!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am drowning in work but in three weeks, when this class is over, I will be a MASTER. You may hear more from me then. Good luck at the show tonight, may everyone have a delightful weekend, goodnight.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to new Junior Boys now!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like it's 2004 all over again. My three favorite albums from that year -- Sonic Youth, Phoenix, Junior Boys -- all have follow-ups that have either just come out or are about to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Not excited about JB.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even remember 2004. I think it was very much like 2005.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Diff'rent Strokes by David Mamet

DAVE KING IS A DRUMMER AND A COMEDIAN AND I LOVE HIM

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

2004 - made a record, directed a play reading in Alaska, shot a short film on video, finally drew the physical part of two longstanding ambiguous romantic friendships to a close, met R. Mondav1's granddaughter at a wine tasting in Chicago and got a fancy tour from her out in Napa along with some friends who were acting in a play in SF, worked a lot at a few jobs. No Junior Boys.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I eagerly await your emergence from the chrysalis of grad school into the butterfly of linguistic mastery that you will become!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, the year game. I like this game.

2004 - moved to Chicago, started law school, met you people in person. Junior Boys were involved in some of this.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

That makes me a pupae. Pupa? Larva? Larvae? Either way, it all sounds like how I feel right now. Larvy and pupy. See y'all when I got wings.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

My 2004 doesn't read well in summary form.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

DAVE KING IS A FUCKING AMAZING DRUMMER

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

HE IS FROM MPLS/STPAUL AND HAS PLAYED IN EVERY SINGLE BAND THERE EVER WAS

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

I have six oink invites in anyone wants them. GBX?

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 3 June 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

and I will gladly upload a canasta album. I don't have the new one though.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 3 June 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

jeff, i very much want an oink invite.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Since I have a new computer can I have another oink invite?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

GWM 5'6" 155 br/br smooth Uptown/Andersonville lQQking for RT

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

This chat room sux

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

My doctor said I should eat more red meat (I'm mildly anemic). So I went to T's tonight and had a burger and a couple margaritas. NOW ARE YOU HAPPY, DOC????

I love when my physician says things like, "eat more red meat."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Jeff.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

My ears are ringing from FFs and MM.

May I have an 0ink invite?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so in the weeds.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, I'm just kidding. I'm not in the weeds at all.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

The weed is in me

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

I AM NOT IN THE WEEDS.

Also, speaking of weed, I hate marijuana. For 3 years I smoked every day but then it started making me panicky. Now just thinking about it makes my chest tighten up. I really wish I smoked it so I could once again enjoy things like Jenny mentioned: washing dishes, organizing socks, prep cooking etc. When I enjoyed it, it made fun things funner, especially MUSIC.

Pot is the devil though. OPIATES, BABY!!! (And cocaine, but only if you're drunk.)

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

And ALCOHOL, duh. But that's like saying, "Oh, AIR and OXYGEN are fucking awesome!"

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

This oink talk keeps reminding me of the jingle contest (go to 'retail' and then 'promotions').

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm partial to Week 2: "It's Moo & Oink! (Say What?)"

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

I had a table of folks from the Silk Road Theater who were originally from Bombay. Their host asked them what their preferences were for shared appetizers, naming shrimp, scallops, chicken satay, calamari, tuna, mussels. They insisted that they were fine eating "anything that ever moved." They're like reverse-vegans.

Rosary on a DOUBLE CD ALBUM!!!

http://www.storesonline.com/members/401559/uploaded/cdcover2.jpg

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

(the first part of that was not apropos-nothing--the oink and moo reminded me of how ntohing is wasted on a pig except for the "oink")

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

This is one of my favorite websites--Sounds of the Worlds Animals.

I have a problem with the idea that "Moo" or "Meow" are onomatopoeia because they are words that imitate sounds another sentient being is making, and not just human imitations of a noise that simply happens.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

fuck all chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. Well, I certainly usually relate to a more general, "FUCK THE WORLD AND LIFE AND GOD, ET CETEREA" but why Chicago specifically?

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

(rarely are the words et cetera "YELLED")

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

I google myself and THIS SHIT is what I get?

Hi. This is Jesse. In Chicago. First time caller. And first-time listener too. Hey John Cunningham.

-- Jesse Kehr (samsajk...), December 15th, 2005.

this ilx has a lot of words. a lot of words and i think i might have to know html in order to do something simple like post a pic. this makes me a little sad.

-- jesse "darjeeling" kehr (samsajk...), December 15th, 2005.

Hi Jesse.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 15th, 2005.

why that pic? that's not me.

-- jesse "mungbean" kehr (samsajk...), December 15th, 2005.

Hi, Jesse. I see you tired of talking to yourself on FRM this afternoon.

-- Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (x77tigersxu...), December 15th, 2005.

That pic = the Indian kid in Spellbound who, in a hilarious ironic twist, had trouble spelling "darjeeling."

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 15th, 2005.

oh that IS ironic. And isn't it ironic that I called myself 'darjeeling'?

NO! NO IT'S NOT!

-- jesse "jackfruit" kehr (samsajk...), December 15th, 2005.

JESSE WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

You're going to gay this place all up.

-- squirrels-r-FOREVA (rabbitrabbi...), December 15th, 2005.

there are plenty of homosexuals on ilx.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 15th, 2005.

Not that kind of gay.

-- squirrels-r-FOREVA (rabbitrabbi...), December 15th, 2005.

ahh.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 15th, 2005.

I like bamboo shoots too.

-- Jeff-Beetle (poopoopo...), December 15th, 2005.

It's dark outside again already!

-- Eazy (chicagoflaneu...), December 15th, 2005.

Speaking of gay, I went into a shoe store today and the guy was listening to a talk radio show about Brokeback Mountain and the hosts were such idiots that I wanted to strangle the DJs and burn down the shoe store, even if it meant burning down Lush right along with it. Just a lot of "Ooooo there are dudes making out in this movie! I don't want to admit it's a good movie or I might suddenly have a hankering for a mouthful of cock! Ha ha hahaha!"

You know, straight dudes, you can just like the movie, or just not like the movie, on its merits, without worrying about what that says about your sexuality.

Obviousness is so irritating to me.

-- squirrels-r-FOREVA (rabbitrabbi...), December 15th, 2005.

That last sentence was not in reference to Eric pointing out that it's dark outside, which while obvious, is not irritating in the least. xthxbi

-- squirrels-r-FOREVA (rabbitrabbi...), December 15th, 2005.

NOTE: I am a straight dude going to see Brokeback Mountain with you on Friday, not worrying about what it says about my sexuality. I am still a little worried about it being boring though.

-- n/a (nu...), December 16th, 2005.

hey. n/a. who are you?

I'M ON ILX. HTTP!

-- jesse "stinkberries" kehr (samsajk...), December 16th, 2005.

Wait just a minute here. This is what I wake up to? GAYS? Has the entire world gone totally bonkers?! There aren't any gays in Chicago and there hasn't been for CENTURIES.

It looks like we're back in FUNZONE, Chicago. Keep it clean out there!

-- giboyeux (in....), December 16th, 2005.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I'm real sorry about the way that previous post looks.

To distract you: LEAST FAVORITE PIXIES SONG OF ALL TIME? U-Mass!!!!

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

OK. Last post before bedtime.

The Cure and Busta Mashup IN VIDEO FORM.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

(there is nothing i can do as i realize with fright that busta is having me for dinna tonight!)

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

But wait...

If you were a Cure fan at all like I was, you would know that there was talk of a ballet called Siamese Twins. As though by magic YouTube has brought it to me in all its ~~glory~~ reality.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mWmdt4Zn0-o&search=the%20cure

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ca c'est nuckin futs.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

hi i just got home. drunky mcdrunkville. population me. somehow i ended up at scott (from office)'s apartment and even though he passed out shortly thereafter, i had whiskey and cigarettes with his roommate, girlfriend, and drummer. the drummer didn't remember meeting me a year ago, but she still hugged me and was v nice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 June 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

i sent the dm a invite.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 3 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/67/159366134_be64c9cbf9.jpg

I'm thinking of heading up to the PR Bookfair. If anybody wants to come along, callmeup!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. YouTube is pretty amazing. I spent the night watching videos of the Cure on the Top of the Pops in the early 80's.

― Since I Have A New Computer, Can I have Another Oink Invite? (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. Well, I certainly usually relate to a more general, "FUCK THE WORLD AND LIFE AND GOD, ET CETEREA" but why Chicago specifically?

i don't recall writing "fuck all chicago" last night. but i'm sure the sentiment should have been "fuck all, chicago". i was addressing the city rather than condemning it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

To distract you: LEAST FAVORITE PIXIES SONG OF ALL TIME? U-Mass!!!!

blasphemy.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

MOMMY, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP RAINING.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the email I got this morning:

Dear sinful,

I'm a newspaper columnist and I saw your post on-line, about the challenges of working from home. I'm doing some research on this topic and I'd love to talk with you. I wouldn't quote you without your permission -- I'd just like to hear your experience.

Please let me know if you'd be willing to talk. I can be reached at sue.shellenbarger@wsj.com

Thank you for considering my request.

Best regards,

Sue Shellenbarger

==
This email was sent by Sue Shellenbarger (sue.shellenbarger@wsj.com), a user of ilXor.com.
http://ilx.wh3rd.net/index.php

Maybe it shouldn't, but it gives me the willies when people I don't know find me through ILX. It's been happening a lot lately. No newspaper named? Sounds reputable.

Let's all email Sue and tell her to stay the hell away from us.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

WSJ = Wall Street Journal?

(or Wisconsin State Journal, heh)

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

My HIGHSCHOOL SWEETHEART (now in their late 20's) neighbors are HAVING SEX and it makes me want to kill them and myself. I am quite bothered by a happy couple having leisurely weekend afternoon LIVING ROOM sex. I wish them unhappiness in abundance.

― innocence is a lupine succor (unclejessjess), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Right there with you, Jesse.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I just set up the DVD player on my 27" TV. Tom Cruise's head is huge!

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I got the same email and googled her -- apparently her "Work and Family" column has been running in the Wall Street Journal for quite a while. She's legit, won some awards for the column, etc. I emailed her back and she's supposed to be calling me Monday a.m.

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

How do you know they're in the living room?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

no way can you wish them unhappiness. leisurely afternoon living room sex is great, if i remember correctly. this is the second time i've thought about this in the last couple days. when jeff asked if anyone had any experience living in a garden apartment it was the first thing i that came to mind. note to jeff: make sure ALL the blinds are drawn if you're planning on having leisurely weekend afternoon sex on the couch.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

afternoon sex > morning sex> night sex

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

See, this is why I need to live alone. It's hard to have sex on the kitchen table when you a) don't have/have room for a kitchen table, b) have roommate(s).

Instead of doing laundry I'm watching the first disc of "Lost" and hating the rain.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

She's legit, won some awards for the column, etc.

Well, she really needs to work on her approach, then. Because there's something really fishy about the way she emailed me.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't find that fishy in the slightest -- it seems quite professional.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, take off the tinfoil hat and slowly step away from the microwave.

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

What should she have said, K., as a reporter researching a story?

The research in WSJ articles is astonishing sometimes. There was one article about an urban myth about the smoke in one scene in Aladdin spelling out S-E-X. The reporter managed to find the evangelical camping outing where this rumor started and then was carried to a church newspaper, then a regional paper, and finally the Washington Post.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

The longer these threads get, the more this kind of thing is going to happen, from reporters and others doing google searches.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

i agree eazy. and now i fully expect an email from screw magazine about an article they're doing on afternoon living room sex.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

ok, seriously neighbors, take down the fucking wind chimes.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

They're just trying to drown out the sex noise with wind chimes.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's hard to have sex on the kitchen table when you a) don't have/have room for a kitchen table, b) have roommate(s).

my kitchen table is wholely insufficient for this purpose.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit, they took them down!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

they must have finished.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

My roommate inexplicably has wind chimes hung all over the place INSIDE. I hate them.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

is there any wind inside your apartment?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Between her roomate's ears.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I hate homework. I have no motivation.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

there was a large (about 40 cubic yard i'm guessing) construction dumpster outside of a building two doors down for about 2 weeks. i'm guessing it's being converted to condos or whatever. anyway, the damn thing REEKED of the most horrible smell you can imagine. it was like a dead horse marinated in hobo piss. they took it away on wednesday but when the wind blows you can still catch a whiff of what smells like a dirty stable. it's fucking horrible.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Did a crazy cat lady live there before?

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know who lived there.

a motorcycle just passed by going the wrong way down a one way street. of course he wasn't wearing a helmet.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, our internet is working after being down for 24+ hours!

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Now what?

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

John, Dan: Sorry I didn't get a chance to say goodbye before leaving last night. I thought we were just loading out but it turned out we were leaving. Thanks for coming to the show.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Now what?

Soulseek! YouTube! Pr0n! Pictures of people's pets! MultiUser Dungeons!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I thought we were going to the Eric Z. show 2nite but Sarah is too wiped out from her 2.5-hour dental appointment so I guess we're chilling at home. I am downloading a ton of Miami bass for some reason.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

I watched three movies at Julia's place, all on TV, with commercials. "Back to the Future" (or at least most of it), "Silence of the Lambs" (saw the last half hour, then they played it again immediately after, so I watched the first hour and a half), and "When Harry Met Sally" (or at least most of it. It was all very comforting and stress-relieving, non-chalantly watching movies I've already seen a hundred times, noticing what they edited out, etc. They're all pretty great movies.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Silence of the Lambs" is still amazing, BTW. Even on TV, you don't lose the funny of, "Love the suit."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

The PRBF was PACKED. I didn't get any books (I wasn't feeling very aggressive about pushing my way into the tents), but I did stand there awkwardly while a mystery writer talked about a book he wrote that I had NO interest in reading until I could make a purchase-free escape. I did, however, sign up for Sunday Trib delivery, which I've been meaning to do since school ended. $20 for 18 weeks. I'm sure that will pay for itself in coupon savings.

The guy tried to talk me into getting the W-F-Sun package because Wednesday's paper has the Women section in it, but I told him I found their Women's section to be facile and condescending. He said, "Oh."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

So okay, this myspace thing...

It's kind of fascinating. I found some people I went to high school with and some old college and beyond pals and, most alarmingly, a weird-o cousin that I don't care for in the least. I guess she can tell that I looked at her profile, and then she added me as a friend. Now I have two comments: One from the weird-o cousin thanking me for "the add" (She added me!!!! Gah she's so fucking weird) wishing my branch of the family well, and one from Kevin that contains the word "boner."

Tee hee.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

ONE MORE THING:

Sarah, I hope you feel better! 2.5 hours in the dentist chair sounds truly horrifying. I am sending you oral well wishes.

Interpret that in whatever way makes you happiest.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

How do you find these people on myspace, just by searching?

Today: Farmer's Market (veggies, challah, chocolate chip banana bread from the Amish, goat muenster), got a crepe w/eggs, cheese, tomatoes and avocado from a food cart, read Love & Rockets, watched Brain Candy, took the cat outside and played bocce with M.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

REASONS WHY THE NEW "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" IS REALLY GOOD:

(You might want to skip this if you haven't watched the new BG and plan to in the future, though I don't expect to give away any explicit plot points.)

1. Best "crazy...or is he? (yes, I'm pretty sure he's batshit insane)" character currently on TV, in the form of an actual mad scientist.

2. Occasional shifts in tone from total seriousness to wacky broad humor, usually in the form of the aforementioned mad scientist character.

3. It's one of the most ambiguous shows I've ever seen, especially when it comes to addressing morality and ethics. There are clearly defined "good guys" and "bad guys," but with very little thought it's easy to sympathize with the bad guys. I get the feeling that the show is admitting that it has a bias towards the purported "good guys," and in doing so, frees you from accepting the perspective of the narrative voice. Oddly enough, the "good guys" have a polytheistic Greco-Roman religion (leading to some giggles as they constantly say "Thank the lords!") with a heavy emphasis on idols, scrolls and priestesses, while the "bad guys" have a monotheistic religion that shares some essential basic tenets with Judeo-Christian thought. And the episode we just watched seemed to confirm the existence of the bad guys' God (though this could just be a trick).

Anyways, it's not perfect, but I recommend it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I never would have pegged for a Battlestar Galactica watchin' dude.

(not that there's anything wrong with that, I haven't seen it but I've got a long history of sci-fi show watching)

"Thank the lords!")

I'm imagining this in Will Ferrell's voice.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Polytheism was a bad choice

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

no way can you wish them unhappiness. leisurely afternoon living room sex is great, if i remember correctly.

I wished that they get freaky on the side table near their window and crash to their deaths, but I relented. I mean I still wish this wholeheartedly, but now I wish they would do it in September so that the apartment would be available for the time Courtney plans on moving here. I hate them. They get sex AND a spacious porch.

AND THEY SPEND TIME ON MY FIRE ESCAPE. I keep the bedroom window open, and at 10 AM I hear them right outside my fucking window saying, "Oh look, it's Jesse's cat in the window. Let's plant some basil in this pot. And let's flaunt our coupled bliss while we look in this open window AS NAKED JESSE AS HE TRIES TO SLEEP.

― innocence is a lupine succor (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

I decided that if I get to hear the sounds their joyful coupling, they can hear my anguished singleness: TAKE IT AWAY, DIAMANDA!

― innocence is a lupine succor (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Chicago

Tomorrow I am going to 6 Flags.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:08 (nineteen years ago)

I just set up the DVD player on my 27" TV. Tom Cruise's head is huge!

27" is really not a BIG television. 27" marks the low end of the threshold at which "normal" size for TV's starts. Patrick makes fun of my TV for being 27".

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

TV is big depending on how big your head is.

The red light is blinking.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

I hate Chris and Korey.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that was fun - I played a set in between a complete drone/noise duo and a very serious post-rock ensemble. Both were really good. The duo played cotninuously for 45 minutes, but the whole thing had structure to it, and the ensemble was dark and scary and beautiful, and unpretentious and had beautiful instruments and amps. And I did my thing in between - so it was like a crazy triple feature, but all of it seemed to work for the folks there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

I just called the cops on some stupid frat boys who were slamming our gate around (that's what woke me up) and letting the air out of the tires of bikes locked up to the fence. Me and the biggest, dumbest, drunkest frat boy exchanged some words through the window and when I suggested he'd like to talk to the police about "just looking" at the bike he was busy deflating, he said, "Well, it's cool, I am the police so go ahead and call them." Gross.

They came out of a party in the apartment across the courtyard where there still rages a drunken domestic argument, which makes me really sad because I can see into their window (not the Easter Boobies apt., but the one under it) so I feel like I know the woman who lives there and she really deserves better than this.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and I learned that you do call 911, not 311, for noise complaints (or you can call 311 but they'll just transfer you), even if you really hate taking up a 911 operator for something non-life threatening.

Eric, I'm glad your show went well!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and I learned that you do call 911, not 311, for noise complaints

Funny you should mention that. I learned that a few weeks ago, and used that knowledge just now. These people were being so brazen and loud that when I woke up, I assumed I must have napped too long and it was like ten or something. But no. It's four in the fucking morning, sho 'nuff. And there is bad, bad, BAD techno blasting. Where do people even get music this bad? I couldn't find music this bad if I tried.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, these people are cocks. I've called the cops twice, and the music went away for a while, but now it's back. As if no one would notice.

Gah. Techno. I do not use that word idly. This is some rank-ass, 80's Detroit Techno. It's real crap.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaaaand sunrise.

I wish I was on the lakeshore right now, looking at the skyline. It's so beautiful when the sun's coming up.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

I can't go back to sleep. Goddamnit. I'm going to be awake until ten, and then sleep all day.

Upside: Wait Wait Don't Tell podcast.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

I am up at 7:40 on a Sunday morning. Can't live like this here.

Chicago, get this: we're taking a cab to 6 Flags Great America.

The participant with a car had a family emergency. My friend and I looked into taking Metra, but we would be way late in arriving. We then looked into car rental, but that would be expensive and pain-in-the-assy.

So, Blue Line to O'Hare and then cab from there.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream last night that Jenny was in my bathtub, bathing, fully clothed. It was gross because I had washed the bird cage grate and she was covered in bird poop.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

This is a test to make sure that my taking my keyboard apart and washing it in hot water did not render it useless.

Oh, good. It's even quieter! I recommend this.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

For how long did you let it dry?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Few minutes. I towelled it off and shook it out.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, I love the THRP's blog entries.

I dreamed I was trying to get to a gig in Milwaukee last night but couldn't do it. Lost the directions, got shot at, ran over a snake (probably the same boa constrictor that a dude was carrying around on the street yesterday, I pet it), etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

I am on edge because I need to do work from home today and the fucking internet still keeps cutting out for half-hour to hour-long periods, and if it cuts out while I'm trying to work I'm going to have to go to Sarah's office and do my work there. Lame.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

The idea of using RealLemon instead of actual lemon juice in hummus is certifiably insane.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

I have been known to use the bottled lime juice in G&Ts instead of real limes. Is that insane?

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Not at all!

(I was referring to one of the recipes on the blog that EZ linked to and Jordan commented on.)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I have been known to use the bottled lime juice in G&Ts instead of real limes. Is that insane?

Insane? No. Wrong? Yes.

Heh. I feel like Kenan.

Nick, do you have a wireless card? Can you take your laptop to a coffee shop or something and work from there?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of bad techno, there is some... music... emanating from our downstairs neighbor's apartment. I hope he's finished "enjoying" these "sounds" soon.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

We don't have a wireless card. I could really use one.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

27" is really not a BIG television. 27" marks the low end of the threshold at which "normal" size for TV's starts. Patrick makes fun of my TV for being 27".

Oh whatever. Did you read the thing I said last week about how my previous TV was like 15"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants beergarden this afternoon/evening? (Note: I'm not promising anything.)

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I could.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants beergarden this afternoon/evening? (Note: I'm not promising anything.)

i'm down with that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I could too, but I await my parents' impending arrival.

Thanks for the invite, Jeff.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

(That's the O||\|K invite, I mean. Thanks for the beergarden quasi-invite, Nick)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

also, free hoyle brothers show at the bottle at 4 pm.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

It certainly does seem like a beautiful afternoon to sit outside on a patio-type structure. Unbeatable, really.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

i don't get internet on the weekends. ilx needs a "skip weekend" button.

thanks for the oink invite, jeff!

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

No problem. I have 4 left.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

so what's the rumpus on the beergardening?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 4 June 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Nick says no. No word from anyone else.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think I will be having cola no matter what happens. Tryin' to rein it in.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of drinking outside, Andersonville Midsommarfest is next weekend. Glogg slushies.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

ew.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

My Indian neighbor just taught me how to play cricket with a tennis racket/ball (I showed him bocce yesterday).

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'd go to the beergarden, it would be the second one I've been to today! And we biked! And I got to loan bike tools to someone and be useful, that was nice -- plus I already spent the $15 and won't need a chainbreaker again for years (I sincerely hope) so SOMEONE should be using it. What an awesome day, people who are good company should be coddled and cultivated and then EVERYONE WINS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

it is raining here, again. i am in the library.

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, I forgot to say: Kevin, because I hurried home to get tools, I forgot about the hotel. I WILL look, though -- it's not inconvenient at all, I just got distracted today by trying to problem-solve for someone else. I might be a sucker.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Rain can kiss my ass -- if my plants need water, I'LL GET IT OUT OF THE SINK, WHERE WATER COMES FROM. Where is everyone?

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

no problem laurel, thank you. there's no doubt about it, i know i'm a sucker. or maybe and idiot. or both, probably both.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

there was a fire down the street today, corner of western & thomas, about a door or two east on thomas. they had western ave. closed down for about 20 minutes. i was doing laundry when i noticed thick black smoke pouring down the street. it reminded me that i don't have renter's insurance.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have renters insurance!

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 5 June 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

Went to Printer's Row today, which means that Kr met my dad for the first time (!). I didn't find any books for myself, but I found a book about R0t@ry Int3rn@tional, which is funny because Kr is starting a job there a week from tomorrow. Even weirder is the fact that this book, which was published in 1975 as kind of a 70th anniversary of the company sort of tribute, was edited by my former boss's husband. WTF. Then we went to Village Tap for patio beer and El Tinajon for patio Guatemalan food. If I'd known there was interest in beer-gardening, I would've called someone.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

I called you twice, douche. You should check your messages sometime.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

I have renters insurance!

I have no insurance of any kind. No renters, no auto (well, no car), no life, no health. No insurance. At all. Upside: I don't really own anything, and my health is hardly an issue since I spend most of my time trying to off myself in one way or another, anyway. I just hope I don't get injured or sick. If something happens to me, it must result in death.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I called you a douche.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, it's cool! I welcome it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

I want to rid myself of auto insurance. Although I've covered my premiums in the last 2 years easily. So annoying to get a bill for it every 6 months.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

Next weekend will be the fun weekend. I invite all to join.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

John, see if Kr has met an Elizabeth L., who I think still works there - someone I know from college (she was at the Will O./Joanna N. art-gallery show we went to a few years back).

I've got a great idea for TV series, but maybe it's because I had a few watching the Sopranos finale, but I'm working on it now, and it's tempting to get drunker and call up powerful TV friends and yell eureka, but having so little experience I really really should just write instead..

I need some insurance, because I think the grace period from my last job's insurance has run out (they told me in December that if something major happened in the spring I could say that I had intended to continue with the, jesus, $450/mo. cobra plan and repay those monthly fees if somethign happened, but now it's hardly spring anymore, right?).

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

This is the theme song. It's kind of like a Miranda July spinoff of the Sops.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

I spent the afternoon parading my folks around greater Logan Square, and then took a ride down to Hyde Park to show them the U and where I work. Then it was back for dinner at Lula, where my mom wondered aloud if all the servers were required to be "emaciated." This makes me laugh.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

6 Flags was absolutely perfect. Pefect weather, great rides and so not at all crowded. We wound up riding rides 22 times (w/ repeats of course). We rode Superman alone 4 times.

The longest we waited for any ride as about 15 minutes, twice. All the really good rides (Superman, Iron Wolf, American Eagle, Raging Bull) had waits only for the first row, and even then there were only about 10-20 people waiting for those seats. The rest had no wait at all.

The commute was an adventure too. We took the 92 bus to the Blue line to O'Hare where we called a suburban cab (turns out if you take a Chicago cab around the suburbs the cost is around 3X what a suburban cab would run because of the restrictions on city/suburban cabs' stepping on each other's business).

Then tonight we got a suburban cab to Waukeegan where we waited for the train at a place that said, "FINE DINING" on the window, but was not, but was still really fun. We had a glass of riesling and a Sam Adams and then boarded the train to Ravenswood.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've been sitting right here. all. day. long.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, I think you get 90 days for Cobra coverage extension. The thing you need to be careful of, is that if you don't extend your insurance and then don't get new insurance within a second grace period, you'll lose coverage for any preexisting conditions that you may have. Just FYI, although it's probably too late for that now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

Superman, Iron Wolf, American Eagle, Raging Bull

What are these rides? They sound... subsidized. Is one of them a wooden roller coaster, at least?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.themeparkreview.com/sfastroworld/sfaw4.jpg

mmm... wooden.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it really isn't an extension, just a grace period where you can still signup and get retroactive coverage. At least if you pay out of the wazooo. You are not actually insured. Cobra is bullshit. I can't imagine every having enough money to cover it after I quit a job.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Woodies are my favorite.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that was the Texas Cyclone, and I would ride it over and over on slow Wednesday afternoons. It was essential to sit in the front car so you get the full "track disappearing in front of you" effect. Alas, it is no more. The whole park is gone.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

two singles have been kicking my ass the past two weeks. one is the a side of viva l'american deathray ("bombs" i think it's called) and the other is the a side to the "black boots" 7" by jack oblivian. i've seriously listened to black boots maybe 300 times in the just over two weeks i've had it. actually, not even close to 300 times. but easily 100. i listen to it, it ends, i listen to it again. over and over again.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

American Eagle is the big wooden one at 6 Flags. They do all sound like names of companies, but only Batman and Superman are "subsidized."

American Eagle has an incredible drop and is really shaky. Superman is one of those rides where you are horizontal (like Superman when he's flying). It has a really unique stomach-turning loop at the beginning that almost made me and the guy next to me vomit.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

the last time i was on a roller coaster was about 6 or 7 years ago when i was in tampa for work. our install took about an hour and since it was a test system that they were going to try to break they didn't want to hear our spiel so we (me and the sales rep) had 12 hours to kill. we went to busch gardens. this was when i was smoking more than 2 packs a day and when we did the loop on the harness roller coaster thing my blood pressure was so high it felt like my fingers and toes were going to explode. kinda cool, kinda not.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

So, you know how Nick said I was in the dentist's chair for 2.5 hours? Well, that was only for my FIRST TWO cavities out of THIRTEEN. OW. My dentist is really nice and made good one-way conversation.

In between the drillings and the fillings, she let me take a bathroom break. I looked up in the mirror and OH MY GOD the decay was so bad she had to drill almost down to the nerve. I just had what looked like facades on either sides of two molars with a completely empty valley between them. It was nightmarish and sort of fascinating at the same time.

It was a great weekend though, Chicago, don't you think?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

What are these rides? They sound... subsidized. Is one of them a wooden roller coaster, at least?

Oh, kenanpaws. I'm pretty sure they had all of those when I was a kid.

I'm actually a giant vagina when it comes to rollercoasters. Maddie's going to make me go to Six Flags eventually.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Seeing your teeth from an unexpected angle is SUPER WEIRD, because you know them so familiarly by touch but have no idea what those points & curves actually look like. Sarah, I am every so sorry for your dental trauma. Are you feeling recovered?

I. LOVE. ROLLERCOASTERS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Shut it, Jordan. My vagina likes rollercoasters as much as the rest of me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Sarah. AHHHH!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

hey dudes, im coming to town tomorrow evening - anybody wanna get a beer sometime around nine?

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I could become a roller coaster buff. I would travel all over the world riding as many roller coasters as I could. Perhaps there would be a website where I would write reviews. Just another possible future that sadly will never be.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah - aggggggh tooth trauma I FEEL FOR YOU SISTER.

I was at the PRBF yesterday too, with (my) Dan. I purchased: (1) Indian cookbook, (1) book of West African stories for teaching purposes and (1) FULL COLOR book all about OWLS. Tons of owl photos, some with prey! Brandeis is next weekend and I CANNOT WAIT. We're going to opening night.

I almost died on a roller coaster when I was just tall enough to ride one. This did not stop me from enjoying them.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I had some justification like that. Although I almost died in the wave pool at a water park, and I still love those.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

additionally chicago, here are some things i want to do this week. please advise on the wheres and the if anyone's interesteds.

1. eat awesome food - non-vegetarian/vegetarian/asian
2. drink some beers
3. see a movie - old theatres/film festivals/x3?
4. go to the top of the sears tower
5. record shop
6. go see jaymc's band on thursday
7. walk/bro around

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny - at least I don't have any pre-existing conditions, so if that second grace period has expired I'm not losing anything. But clearly I do need to get some new basic hit-by-a-bus insurance pronto, especially after seeing what happened to a friend who did get hit-by-a-bus last year.

The big ride at Valleyfair (outside Mpls.) when I was a kid was the FLUME, which is like a rollercoaster except that you're riding in a log-shaped vehicle through a waterway, and then in climbs, and then it plunges like a rollercoaster except that when you hit the bottom after the dive you get drenched in water. Fun. Looking around Valleyfair, you could always clearly tell who had been riding the FLUME.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Mr. Smith, I'm leaving town on Weds. morning - but nos. 1-7 should be easy to accomplish. And it's totally clear outside, today at least, and a good time to go to the top of the Sears tower. No beer or bro-ing allowed up there, though.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

4. go to the top of the sears tower

Nah. You want to go to the top of the Hancock and sip a martini while looking at the best view in Chicago. Sears is for suckers.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, hancock has a better view.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

And martinis, apparently. I don't know about EZ, but I'm sold.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

non-vegetarian/vegetarian/asian

non-vegetarian: easy.

vegetarian: abundant.

asian: mmm. also very easy. I'd go for some Indian while you're at it. And Ethiopian. And Middle-Eastern! Ooh... I'm going to Sultan's Market as soon as it opens today. I'm hungry for garbanzo-based goodness.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

also a cubs game maybe?

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

i hate sultan's market. bad food and bad memories there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

If you want to do something tourist-y, take the architectural boat tour! Surprisingly great views.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

And martinis, apparently. I don't know about EZ, but I'm sold.

Yeah, it's a pretty good bar. Of course, you're also paying for the view, so it's $8-9 a drink, but hey. It's not too touristy on a weeknight. Get there a little early, though, say just after dinner, 8 or 9. You can still get a good seat then.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

i hate sultan's market. bad food

You are officially the only person I have ever heard say this. Congrats!

and bad memories

It's important, I think, to keep your love life and your food life separate. You still have to eat long after she's gone.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was at the top of the 'cock around 11 p.m. a few Mondays ago - much less crowded than I'd ever seen before (on weekend nights, happy-hour times, etc.). The fellas are right - better than Sears.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

also:

Movies: Army of Shadows at The Music Box this week.

Record shopping.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

You are officially the only person I have ever heard say this. Congrats!

i know i'm not the only one who feels this way.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I rode the Roaring Rapids or something like that. I got soaked from head to toe. When I say that, I mean it was no different than if I had just jumped in a pool fully clothed. ANNOYING. and cold.

I remember the Flume. Not nearly as wet.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, whatever, I had Sultan's Market the other day and was again reminded that it's really the best falafel sandwich in Chicago. Though I enjoy Middle Eastern Bakery, Taste of Lebanon, Pita Inn, and Old Jerusalem, I don't think they quite match up. (U&K: get it spicy.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I want a spicy falafel sandwich. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to Great America twice, one for an 8th-grade class trip and one for a 12th-grade class trip. My favorite coasters were American Eagle and the Whizzer -- the latter is kind of a pussy ride, I guess, but I like how it caroms you through the trees. I don't really enjoy the big bad supersonic ones that twist you around and dangle you upside-down and such -- I feel like they go too fast to really be appreciated, and they really just make me dizzy. Not fun.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Scenes of Great Parenting from yesterday:

At O'Hare there was a Jewish family (orthodox, Hasidic? who knows?) including 3 bratty little kids scampered around baggage claim near the exit of a terminal. I called a cab and walked back by them, and all that was left was the 3 kids climbing all over the moving conveyer belt. The cops were there hollering at a nearby couple--not the parents--to mind their kids.

The parents were outside--not just outdoors, but far from the terminal in the middle median of the 3 lane pick-up area. The cops proceeded to holler at them to not leave their kids unattended. The parents were dismissive of the police as they moved their kids outside.

Later in the day at 6 Flags we were walking by the beer patio where we saw a little girl about 6-8 years sitting at a table alone with a full glass of MGD. There were no parents in sight during the whole time it took for Heather to smoke a cigarette.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

i found an old 35mm camera that me and my former roommate used to use before we got a digital camera 6 years ago. there were about 12 shots taken on the roll of film that was in there so during the blackout i started taking pictures of people who were coming by my house. there was a great one of josh carbona passed out on my couch with a long icicle of drool hanging out of the corner of his mouth. yesterday i went to take the remaining pictures so i could get the film developed but the batteries were dead. instead of opening the battery compartment to change the batteries i opened the film compartment. this startled me so much i dropped the camera and the film unraveled across my living room floor. this pissed me off to no end. but i did find another roll of undeveloped film so i got that developed yesterday. i pick it up today. i have no idea what's on there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, so I'm going out on a limb here because I haven't discussed this with Nick (oh no!) but maybe we should put together some sort of social event for Friday night. Does anyone else like Big Bowl? Because that's fun and asian and tasty. Or maybe you have a different suggestion? I'm perpetually broke, so this is probably a bad idea, but anyway..

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I could never have a real 35mm camera like that because I always ended up overexposing or unrolling the film in a similar manner. I think I finally dropped the thing hard enough that it broke, too.

I downloaded my digital camera for the first time in months the other day. Included inside was a pic of me from when I stood in my friend Dave's wedding back in October. I'd like to take this opportunity to post it, because I look ridiculous.

http://static.flickr.com/48/153409386_8a8bcf8956.jpg

xpost: I'd probably be down for that.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

silly bitch.

when i worked at eckerd photo lab my co-worker rodney told me that while i was gone an old lady picked up her prints, and as she looked through them she said, "this is not my picture, i don't know this person."

rodney looked through the negatives and the pic was on the strip, along with pictures of people she did recognize. the woman insisted that 23 of the negatives were hers, but that we had slipped in 1 individual frame by accident, despite its being physically attached to the strip that was hers.

rodney refunded her money.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

i think im buying a polaroid camera at lunch today!

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

I'm thinking about getting a cheap digital camera in time for this year's trip to Switzerland. I got some good pics last time, but I might give up the job of photographer to one of the other dudes. A la jaymc, I don't like taking pictures so much as having taken them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I had Sultan's Market the other day and was again reminded that it's really the best falafel sandwich in Chicago.

Oh my yes. And for three bucks, you can afford to also get a tub of hummus and eat that for dinner.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

four years ago today dee dee ramone was found dead in his apartment.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I like that photo, Dan!

I won't be able to join anyone on Friday because it's M-tt's bachelor party. I think we're going to some Fogo de Chao-like place (but not Fogo de Chao) and then prob to a bar somewhere?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

You guys, guess what's awesome? Watching movies at home.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/66/160970269_1bc6333cff.jpg

"Wart Hog" is one of my fav. Ramones songs.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

he looks like roy orbison there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Question: Why is the preferred food item for women who are too skinny to be fed a sandwich? Like, "Oh God, I saw Rachel last weekend, and she was thin as a rail. Someone give that girl a sandwich." Why not, say, a piece of chocolate cake? I'm curious about the origin of this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Fark

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

In my experience we've said "donut."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Sandwiches are hearty, not just fattening.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 48 for "give that girl a sandwich".
Results 1 - 9 of about 28 for "give that girl a burger."
Results 1 - 3 of about 4 for "give that girl a hamburger."
Results 1 - 3 of 3 for "give that girl a hot dog."
Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "give that girl a pizza".

(No results for "donut" or "doughnut.")

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

i've always heard "cheeseburger".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan's right, but I've always heard more people say donut because, I imagine, it's a quicker fattener-upper (TM).

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 3 of about 4 for "give that girl a steak".

One result each for "taco" and "burrito" -- although I'm not sure if they're being used in the same way, i.e. "BOY YOU BETTER GIVE THAT GIRL A BURRITO FO i WOPCH YO AZZ!! Dana¢¾. 4/7/2006 8:37 AM ..."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Because it's pithy? Because sandwiches are "kid" food, supposed to be basic and unobjectionable? Yes, and nutritious.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 23 for "that girl a steak". (0.35 seconds)

(with toss, buy, give, etc. for verbs)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Kids eat sandwiches, but sandwiches are not kid food!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

give that girl some crisco!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 8 of 13,800 for "give that girl a cheeseburger".
(Except it's one of those searches where 13,792 hits are for the same website. So it's really only 8 hits.)

Ah, that's smart, Jordan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

i'm gonna walk up the street
'cause i got nowhere else to go.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 12 for "that girl a big mac".

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.givethatgirlacheeseburger.com/

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "that girl a happy meal".

I like the ones where it says "STAT" at the end.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Sandwich implies that not only is she skinny but she's not nuturing herself.

Your search - "that girl a turkey leg" - did not match any documents.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I'm now reminded of LeCoq's usage of the word "cheeseburger" to denote female gentialia.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jacques LeCoq?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 1 of 1 for "that girl a gyro". (0.18 seconds)
Tip: Try removing quotes from your search to get more results.

Why is Nicole Richie so skinny? Stress, says her dad - TV SquadNicole Richie - WireImage.com photo When you look at recent pictures of Nicole Richie, do you say "Someone should get that girl a gyro? ...
www.tvsquad.com/2005/11/22/ why-is-nicole-richie-so-skinny-stress-says-her-dad/ - 87k - Cached - Similar pages

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 2 of 2 for "that girl a milkshake".

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fark.com#Farkisms_and_clich.C3.A9s

Scroll down to "Sammich"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I'm now reminded of LeCoq's usage of the word "cheeseburger" to denote female gentialia.

burger i've heard. cheeseburger would indicate the clap to me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

LeCoq = Canadian ILXor, real name Darren I think?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of those apply to ILX too, of course. xxpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, we're not lame enough to start a Wikipedia page about our memes, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 923 for "get that girl a"

First matches -
"Get that girl a sports bra"
"Get that girl a Linux box"
"Get that girl a speakerphone or a headset or something"
"Get that girl a tissue, she's got some drainage!"
"And if Huffington tried to portray herself as a victim, well, get that girl a parasol and some smelling salts"
"get that girl a black wig, please!" [cf. Julie Delpy]
"Someone get that girl a thong"
"Get that girl a drink!"
"Get that girl a tutu"
"... realize that she has. she's strong but not too strong, crafty yet not too crafty, superhero-ish but not an asshole about it. get that girl a cape! ..."
"(Wed Mar 22 07:36:38 2006). NO NO HELL NO this is not working get that girl a good hair cut and take the granny clothes and put them in the trash ...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, who else is down for Big Bowl Friday night?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Did one of you just call me? It came up as the number with no name attached.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

according to my outgoing calls, i have not called anyone since 3:14 saturday afternoon.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

i'm only skimming, but otto is totally wrong. sultan's is the best, and ranks #1 in Chicago Eateries I'm Missing (just edging Hot Doug's).

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

If you believe the interweb, girls need a lot of getting for, eh?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hot Doug's needs longer hours. Of course, that would make it less of the treat that it is now.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

what i don't get: bozeman has got turkish students cheek by jowl, and no middle eastern place anywhere in town. what gives? Sultan's, get one franchise!

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm down with doing things on Friday! I like Big Bowl because it's in the middle of things, but I do want to make one plug for the cheaper, more authentic Asian food at the Argyle stop. HOWEVER Big Bowl (assuming we're talking about the one in the Gold Coast, no?) is closer to the Hancock Building.

So let me just state for the record that I love drinks at the Top of the Cock, Asian food, and meeting strangers from the internet and would thus like to be involved in whatever doins' transpire with this "SQUARECOATS" person.

Dan M, you look good in a tux.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

but I do want to make one plug for the cheaper, more authentic Asian food at the Argyle stop.

Vietnamese recommendations, plz. Kr was asking me, and I had to say that I haven't really done Vietnamese in Chicago b/c I don't trust it being vegetarian. (Although I'm probably less finicky now than I was before.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

this email address works - email me and we can rock out

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hehe, I'm looking for a vocal sample to stick in the breakdown of this track I'm working on and I came across a good one - Sean Connery going "The floor's on fire, shee?" from IJ & the Last Crusade. Too bad there's too much John Williams in the background to use it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Vietnamese recommendations, plz.

TANK NOODLE - lunchy, dinery atmosphere
Hai Yen - more of a dinner place

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dan M, you look good in a tux.

Ha, I thought I looked uncomfortable!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

i'm only skimming, but otto is totally wrong

otto is totally right. you're all crazy. it's gorgeous outside chicago. what am i doing inside? it's freezing in here, so cold that it necessitates a cardigan.

― otto's 3rd person (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Second Tank Noodle. Great food. And a good vegetarian selection. You can also get them to sub tofu for anything on the menu. They've got a vegetarian rice noodle soup which is the closest to "vegetarian pho" as you'll find. You can even dip your tofu in a hoisin/siracha sauce mixture like the meat eaters do.

Hai Yen is good. Pho 777 is great, probably my second favorite. There's one on the same side as the entrance to the Argyle station about half a block East, but I can't remember the name of it. There's another across the street and two or three doors West of the Argyle station that I forget the name of but they have a lemongrass tofu dish so good you'll want to harm kittens to get more.

We should go out for dinner some time. Jeff and I will do our best to be your white people tour guides in the world of Vietnamese cuisine.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I had a traditional Malaysian meal over the weekend that was cooked by my Malaysian friend, and it was SOOOOOO GOOOOOOD. We had fried dried fish that you eat with the bones and all, a curry-type sauce for the rice and a red snapper with hot pepper sauce. DELISH. And I learned some things too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been to the top of the 'Cock. I vote for Big Bowl and Handcock drinks!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

"things"

I love red snapper. Hai Yen has a big old red snapper dish that is v. tasty.

xpost - I second that emotion! Top of the Cock is where it's at, and the women's room has the best view of the city in the city.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

"things" = things about cooking Malaysian food that I didn't previously know, like how to make these delightful sauces. NOW I KNOW.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i need a haircut.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

ME TOO. Fun fact: I have received TWO haircuts in the last 12 months. I'm holding out until I get my work situation figured out, then I might try a new 'do.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

That fact was not all that "fun" -- I realize that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

fried dried fish that you eat with the bones and all

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting my hair cut on Saturday. I think I'm gonna go see Sunset Boulevard at the Music Box at 11:30 (if anyone wants to join me) and then wander over to Orbit after the movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

xp - yeah, it was fried-tasting and fishy, but interesting. It looked like this:
http://www.confluence.org/cn/all/n26e117/pic9.jpg

I also tasted a salted duck egg. Not being big on eggs, I was not too into it, but it was alright mixed up with the other stuff.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

i had to put my hair in pigtails yesterday when i was shaving because it kept flopping into the shaving cream. total hassle.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost AWESOME

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

actually, i may be able to get my haircut saturday as well as there aren't any shows i want to see friday. it will be nice to get up without a hangover and before noon on a saturday.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, yesterday:

http://home.student.uu.se/rebj6640/pippi.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

if only i had a monkey.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

i still haven't bought a new straight razor but i did go back to the mug soap and brush instead of the crap i normally use in the shower. it made all the difference in the world. my face is as smooth as a baby's ass (except for the part under my jaw that i missed).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, thanks for the Vietnamese recommendations, Dan and Jenny!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am interested in Malaysian cooking. I am intrigued and freaked out by salted fish with bones in it. It's one of those things that sound really good to me, but probably wouldn't taste that great. But I am a big fan of fish sauce, so who knows.

I think I'm neck and neck w/ Amanda re: hair cuts. I was thinking I'd go ahead and get one, but then on Friday two of my law school chums complimented me on my hair independently of each other, leading me to believe I can get through the summer without bothering, thus getting me back on my regular haircut schedule: back to school and Christmas.

You're welcome, John!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Chao tom is a northern delicacy: Ground up shrimp is baked on a stick of sugar cane, then eaten with lettuce, cucumber, coriander (cilantro) and mint, and dipped in fish sauce.

DROOOOOOOOL

xpost seconded!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

The sauce that she put over the fish was a combination of the following things, all heated up in a wok-type pot:

* chili-garlic sauce (the kind with the green lid that's not just straight up chili and not sriracha)

* another hot roasted chili paste that came in a large jar and had arabic on it -- she said she got it at an Indian food store. red in color.

* onion

* a little water

* oyster sauce

* a little mushroom sauce

and she rubbed turmeric all over the fish before she fried it in the wok pan.

NOTE - the fish was cooked before the sauce, so it sat on the side while the sauce heated up.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

huh. guess who has a date with a girl he went on a date with a year ago and hasn't seen since?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

ru ok wildman?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, have you heard Ken Vandermark's new Powerhouse Sound group? I didn't know that John Herndon and Jeff Parker are in it, and that sounds promising.

Fuck the Scandivian Free Noise 28-tet stuff, he should get on recording that group and making a new V5 record!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah -- I saw them at Schuba's recently and it was HOTT. Really great. I think there's a new album coming out? I can't remember, honestly.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

My bored-at-work internet research shows that there is an album coming out, but it's with the first version of the band (meaning Euro guys instead of Tortoise guys).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yeah -- that's true. But it'll still be good. I imagine it's the same material (roughly) that I heard at the show.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hungry and I want that shrimp thing that Dan described upthread. STAT.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'm in a carbohydrate stupor at the moment, i can't keep my eyes open.

ru ok wildman?
actually, this one saw me a a much much lower point than when i was screaming obscenities at the top of my lungs in the middle of estelle's. so much worse that i'm not sure why she wants to go out again.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Unless you were walking around crying with pooped pants, how bad could it have been?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

amanda, you can't possibly imagine. the nadir of my very existence. truth.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I am as intrigued by your nadir as I am by dried salty Malaysian fish.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, if she digs you after witnessing your nadir, then you are SET.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

My mind is trying to make some sort of rhyme with "nadir" and "tapir" but I can't so here is a picture:

http://members.tripod.com/~animom/tapir.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. Yeah I was gonna say: maybe she likes you.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Just like those tapirs.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, if she digs you after witnessing your nadir, then you are SET.

I.e., "if you blow chunks and she comes back, she's yours."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/780000/images/_781050_wayne_150.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

likes me so much this will be the first time i've seen her in over a year. i'm guessing she's on the rebound.

xpost- i drank newcastle for 10 hours straight but did not blow chunks until she was long gone.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

My mind is trying to make some sort of rhyme with "nadir" and "tapir" but I can't so here is a picture:

I'D TAPIR DAT ASS

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, I am as intrigued by your tapir as I am by dried salty Malaysian fish.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Tapir, please.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Tank Noodle this evening and had the shrimp thing, and it was awesome!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am amusing myself with Fran Lebowitz. I want so badly to be this brilliantly cranky.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

"If you are of the opinion that the contemplation of suicide is sufficient evidence of a poetic nature, do not forget that actions speak louder than words."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

This is one special to me: "There are two kind of music: good music and bad music. Good music is music that I want to hear. Bad music is music that I do not want to hear."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have in my mind a French author who was famous for his really miserable misanthropic attitude and quotes. Kenan, I think you posted him before. Help?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure I've posted lots of miserable, misanthropic things. Refresh me.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

One that John and I would do well to remember: "Spilling your guts is exactly as charming as it sounds."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

My memory is vague on it. He said a lot of contradictary and dark things. He was like a depressed Oscar Wilde. I am 99% sure it was you who linked to his quotes on Wikipedia.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

Can you remember any of the quotes?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

NO and it's pissing me off. Stuff like "People suck." Some of the quotes were annoyingly contradictary. DAMN YOUR SHORT TERM MEMORY CONDITION.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

I must admit, I do not know what you're talking about, and "depressed French author" hardly narrows the field.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sartre? Camus? Baude-freakin'-laire? This is an endless list. If I quoted anyone, it was probably Sartre, since I'm a fan. But I don't remember posting a quotes page.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hell is, indeed, other people.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard some of the Sartre quotes I'm looking up. I LOVE this one, though: "To eat is to appropriate by destruction."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

haha or this one: "If you are lonely when you're alone, you are in bad company."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

No. It was none of those. If it were them I would not have a problem remembering or looking them up.

I am bothered. Maybe it wasn't you? No. It was you, posting at night. Linking to Wikiquote. GRRRRRR.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

Michel Houellebecq?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

No. It was you, posting at night. Linking to Wikiquote. GRRRRRR.

If you could remember any reason at all why you remember this, it would be helpful.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

Don't make me get all good cop, bad cop on your ass.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

No, damn you. I've read "Whatever."

If you could remember any reason at all why you remember this, it would be helpful.
Because it was a list of really "life-is-shit/people-suck" quotes that reminded me of the Liebowitz quote.

You claimed to be a fan.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going back to bed. Au revoir. La vie est merde/Le people "soufflents"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

You claimed to be a fan.

I always do that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

Because it was a list of really "life-is-shit/people-suck" quotes that reminded me of the Liebowitz quote.

What else am I going to quote? Walt Whitman? Life is shit. People do suck. I exclusively seek out writers and thinkers that support my theory. Fortunately, there are a whole fuckload of them.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

I know who it was. Or rather, I know who Jesse is talking about. But I don't remember the name. I'd never heard of him myself, but Kenan was quite high on the guy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

chicago i'm soooooo sleeeeeeeeeeepy. i could really use an iced coffee from leitza's right now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

i'm tired too. i woke up at 4:45 totally disoriented. then i remembered that i actually had to get up, then i slept for 25 more minutes. even the dogs were still sleeping. bleh.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Thank god for coffee. Of course, I'm tired because I didn't go to bed until 2.30am, so no sympathy here.

Dogs. They get to sleep all day, the lucky buggers.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

i woke up at 12:30 (text message that i accidentally deleted before reading), 3:40, 4:50, then when my alarm went off at 5:10. not a very restful night's sleep.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yuck.

I have a question, and it may be a stupid one, but I'm curious. Assuming that neither of them have had plastic surgery, would the skin of a person who lives a life of leisure and a person who wakes up every day at 5AM and works for 12 hours age at the same rate? Does being tired make you look more tired in the long run? What I'm asking here is: would I be getting wrinkles around my eyes regardless of how much sleep I get or is the amount of sleep I get (or don't get) directly related to the wrinkles I keep noticing? Because I'm not that old! (I realize that heredity has something to do with it but that's not what I'm asking)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

there are so many variables i'm not sure it's possible to answer that question. i know it's not possible for me to answer anyway.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am still witnessing the ongoing horror of my cat catching, but never quite killing, a small mouse. See, she does not want it dead, she wants to bring it to me as a warm, kicking gift. No matter how much I discourage this, my cat does not understand the nuance of my meaning. I went so far as to follow my cat around, knowing that she was torturing a poor little mouse, and planning to bash the poor thing on the head as soon as my demonic little kitty released it. I couldn't do it. I could only manage to watch the limping little rodent scurry under the stove while I encouraged my cat, "GET IT! GET IT!" No go. This is comedy. If I had any balls, surely I could kill the poor mouse myself, but I'm sorry. I share too much DNA with this tiny creature to beat it to death with a shoe.

On another note: I took this picture this morning:
http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/daybreak1.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, the answer seems obvious but I don't really know why. Oh well. I guess you're right -- there are too many variables. But I'm pretty convinced that being tired is making me uglier.

Wow, that's a pretty picture.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jar of Ponds and you'll be fine.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Also:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/skyline_morning1.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

How did you take that one? On a boat?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

(They're gorgeous, and so's 'manda.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

I used to use Pond's. Maybe I should start again. I doubt the restorative power of globby goop but it's worth a try. What I really want is more sleep. (xp - Aw, thanks EZ! I needed that. I feel like doody.)

Hey Jordan - a little bird told me that Powerhouse Sound (US version) is playing on Aug. 2 (Hideout, in Chicago).

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Not on a boat. Near the planetarium.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, do you wanna tell us what you were doing near the planetarium at daybreak?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like Casuistry was also familiar with this misanthropic French quote-whore.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

(Aside from taking photos, because that's obvs)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Those are great pictures. It's funny, the edge of the land looks pixelated, but it's just jagged.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Amanda, I just might try to make that show.

I'm tired too, stayed up too late working on traxx. Now my tongue feels like it's covered in teflon, WTF. And I forgot to eat breakfast.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, do you wanna tell us what you were doing near the planetarium at daybreak?

Not sleeping. Also not drinking, and not losing my damn mind. Taking pictures seemed a cool balm.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

That's good. That's my favorite time of day. I was just wondering.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

WOW! Great pictures Kenan. You might like to think about taking more and selling them to stock photo places. I know it's not that simple, but they are totally postcard material. I'm envious; my pics come out looking like a tourist's snapshots, even with having dedicated serious time and study to photography a few years back.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

More pics! Surely you took more than just 2.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ok. Ducks.

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/duckies.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Wow.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

MY LAKE!!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. Wow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is that a goose or a duck with a really long neck? A goose! That's beautiful.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost Or are those geese? You get the idea.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

MY LAKE!!!

Your lake? Do you drink out of it every day? I didn't think so.

Pfffft.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

that skyline picture is now my desktop wallpaper, taking the place of a cha project on jackson & western that was being demolished. great shot kenan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Also, do you poop and pee in it every day? NO!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

uhm, jesse, i'm pretty sure unless you're actually going *in* the lake it goes downstream. that's why they reversed the course of the river to flow away from the lake.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

i know i know. i was just being dramatic.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

it was hyperbole. i only poop and pee in the lake some days.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

i'm trying to find a dave matthews band joke here but the coffee hasn't kicked in yet.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

"Pfffft" was actually the sound of me pooping in the lake.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I used to, every day for most of my 22 years. Surely there's a grandfather clause that applies?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I feel obligated to point out that I was cross-posting to "Do you drink out of it every day? I didn't think so."

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Poop in the lake, you mean?

Oh, ok. You've drank more lake water than I have.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, any chance any of you dumb sons of bitches (or as my mom would say, son of a beeches) would like to go see the Omen with me TOMORROW night?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, I was wondering there for a minute about your upbringing, L.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0916291456.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.gif

STOP JUDGING!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Apples poop?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I can't find it now, but one of Kenan's skyline photos (taken from his apartment facing downtown) is my desktop wallpaper at home.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

aw. *touched*

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have realized that my kitty does not need to kill mice. She does not need to compete with anything for food or water. All she needs is to be flipped upside down and agressively rubbed on the belly while being told she is the mostest specialist kitty evar. That's all she needs.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Come to think of it, this applies to most people, as well.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Smack it up, flip it, rub it down, OH NO!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Meow.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

heh.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

specialist vs specialest

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Private Specialist Kitty, reporting for duty! (Insert picture from that "pets in uniform" site that I can't find right now.)

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

getting my belly rubbed came up in conversation last night. it's nice isn't it?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

specialist vs specialest

I caught that after I posted it, but thought that not correcting it might be charming. But NoooOOOOO!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

it's nice isn't it?

er, that's getting one's belly rubbed in general, not necessarily me getting my belly rubbed. though that's nice too.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

But if she herself doesn't feel she's capable of being the most specialest kitty ever, then she'll go kick some mice around. And those mice will go and kick some fleas around.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Someone's projecting.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Nice photos, Kenan! I don't know, but in the past, before I met you, had one of your Chicago photos as my desk top wallpaper.

Amanda, I am a fan of Burt's Bees Royal Jelly eye cream. I use it at night. I don't know if it does anything, but it makes me feel like it's doing something and that is probably sufficient.

I would aslo bet that when you finally get enough sleep, you'll feel so great that you will also decide that you look great.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hello? Why ELSE are we all cranky? XP

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I don't NOW, but in the past, I meant up there.

And I meant that you look great now, Amanda, but that you are tired and probably looking in the mirror and feeling tired and thinking, gawd I look like crap but when you get sleep, you'll be all like YEAH I ROCK and look in the mirror and see the same person who looks great and has always looked great but you'll think to yourself, "Now THAT is a good looking woman." Then you'll go out and save kittens from tree tops and solve world hunger because that's how important sleep is to daily functioning.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I say you're craaaaaankay
I say you're craaaaaankay

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan = MOMUS

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

i've got a song stuck in my head that i probably haven't heard in YEARS. and since i haven't heard it in so long i only remember a brief snippet of it but i've been repeating it over and over in my head all morning. WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE STOP THIS MADNESS?? seriously, driving me nuts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I just had this horrible feeling that my coworker was my dad. I thikn I am losing mind.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, as long as you're going to bed earlier, you should be getting the same amount of sleep as everyone else, right? And isn't rest before midnight supposedly the most important? Anyway, I always wash my face and apply Dove night lotion before bed and Clinique eye cream under my eyes. If nothing else, it feels really nice, but I do think it helps.

I think people who look older (ie: in a bad way) are generally crankier. What could cheer you up in general? I don't think you look tired/old, but if you feel you do, it's probably just your bad mood that's making you feel/appear that way.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan has glasses, Momus is some kind of cyclops.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I went to sleep at 11, woke up at 4:45. I try to go to bed earlier, but I wanted to stay up til D got home, then we ate some soup and read for 5 min. and fell asleep. I never get to see him because we have opposite schedules. :( I think it's just the end of a very long haul for me, and I am ready to remove something from this overloaded equation.

I'm not a cranky, unhappy person. This doesn't feel natural for me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan is Kenan, Momus is Momus. Jon is making less sense all the time.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

[img]http://www.rottencotton.com/shirts/crazy_ass/tn_212_assstinks.gif[/img]

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

d'oh.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rottencotton.com/shirts/crazy_ass/tn_212_assstinks.gif

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

"my ass stinks like shit" Google Search

Notable Quote:

Topic: Women`s Erotica
Expert: Celina White
Date: 3/11/2006
Subject: Smelling?
Question
Hello. My boyfriend of two years tells me I smell sometimes. His exact words this morning (he initiated sex, today, not me) was that "my ass stinks like shit." That really offends me, because I am an extremely clean person. He also says my quote "pussy stinks" sometimes too. I understand people have natural odors, but I never thought I stunk. No one I know has ever thought I stunk. Every other guy that has gone down on me always said how clean and pure I tasted. I didn't shit or fart this morning, and I take 1-2 showers a day, depending on what I'm doing. I use Summer's Eve on my "special parts". I always make sure to wash and rinse well. Is this some kind of mind game? Also another question I have is if he doesn't start the sex he doesn't want to do it. I've "made" (Can you even make a man have sex?) him have sex with me when he didn't want to and he won't come. I'm not sure if he does it on purpose or not because sometimes he can't come even when he starts it? Are guys supposed to come every time? I've never heard of a man having trouble coming? Could it be me? Could he just not find me attractive and have settled for me because I was what was available at the time? Advice would be appreciated.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Is this some kind of mind game?

DING DING DING

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

mmmmm, tastes pure!

(wtf?)

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

And clean! It's like Fiji!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan is Kenan, Momus is Momus. Jon is making less sense all the time.

POSTED SAME OLD UNFUNNY PRE BLOGOSPHERE INTERNET IMAGE MEME

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Answer:

The problem is not your pussy, but pussies in general. Pussies smell like oyster sauce. Hell, even dicks smell like oyster sauce sometimes, but far less than your gashy part. The only long-term solution is to consider getting a penis.

As far as your not having "shat or farted," the problem may not be your ass at all; your boyfriend may be smelling the reek of your filthy nasty mouth, you longshorewoman.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

"your pussy stinks" + "I can't come" = GAY

Zero times any other number = GAY. Figure it out, ya little mathematician.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I like that post though

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Pussies smell like oyster sauce.

We will not be taking any more opinions from faggo. Anyone else?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Zero times any other number = GAY. Figure it out, ya little mathematician.

Elaborate, please.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

POSTED SAME OLD UNFUNNY PRE BLOGOSPHERE INTERNET IMAGE MEME

Are you referring to Everybody Poops? It's not a pre-blogosphere Internet image meme -- it's a book. (Which may have become a pre-blogosphere Internet image meme -- I'm not sure, since I wasn't really looking at message boards at all in the pre-blogosphere days, it was all like Salon and Slate and Pitchfork and Arts and Letters Daily for me.) Anyway, I saw a copy of Everybody Poops the other day at the Printers Row book fair, which should be evidence enough of its non-Internet roots.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

sounds like KITH to me jesse.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I KNOW IT IS A BOOK YOU FUCKING CHOAD.
IT WAS "INTERNET FUNNY" (AKA NOT FUNNY) IN LIKE 1998.

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jon seems to read Fark too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad Jon is critiquing my posts. His opinion is important to me.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Fark is what the haters imagine the noise board to be like.

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, when are you going to submit a vibrator repair guide to Make?

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not that clueless! You guys will need to get a lot of ads first.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Make your own vibrator out of a cigar box for only $10!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

(or, you know, buy one, you cheap shit.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Goddamit Kenan, I ORDER YOU TO REMEMBER WHO THAT FRENCH WRITER FOR WHOM YOU HAD SUCH A HARD-ON NOT LONG AGO. Seriously! He was like your Messiah and now you don't remember him.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jon, I know you know it's a book. I'm just saying you're complaining about it being a tired meme, but you only think that because you were a big enough nerd to be acquainted with "Internet image memes" at the age of 16. The rest of us just think of it as a book.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Goddamit Kenan, I ORDER YOU TO REMEMBER WHO THAT FRENCH WRITER FOR WHOM YOU HAD SUCH A HARD-ON NOT LONG AGO. Seriously! He was like your Messiah and now you don't remember him.

I spent about a half hour earlier today searching both on ILX and Google for terms like

French quote Kenan misanthropic Casuistry

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Quick, someone post that dancing baby!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

He was like your Messiah and now you don't remember him.

I really doubt that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.repeat.blogger.com.br/spiderman.gif

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse and Kenan are making me giggle. Partially because I am imagining this conversation IRL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

Work is NUTS today.

Bye.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I need salami. I think I will go have some.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

you're complaining about it being a tired meme, but you only think that because you were a big enough nerd to be acquainted with "Internet image memes" at the age of 16. The rest of us just think of it as a book.

Well said.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants to get drunk at 8 AM with me?

Saturday 10th
England v Paraguay 8.00 am
Trinidad v Sweden 11.00 am
Argentian v Ivory Coast 2.00 pm

Sunday 11th
Serbia v Netherlands 8.00 am
Mexico v Iran 11.00 am
Angola v Portugal 2.00 pm

Saturday 17th
Portugal v Iran 8.00 am
Czech Rep v Ghana 11.00 am
Italy v USA 2.00 pm

Sunday 18th
Japan v Croatia 8.00 am
Brazil v Australia 11.00 am
France v Rep of Korea 2.00 pm

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

(Actually, I'm not sure I can make any of those. I'm going to Cleveland next weekend.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Cleveland? Whatever for?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

because it's such an inherently exciting city.

actually, i'm not sure if i've ever been there.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9452/ladies2zz.jpg http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9452/ladies2zz.jpg http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9452/ladies2zz.jpg http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9452/ladies2zz.jpg

― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Cleveland rocks.

Drew Carey said so.

xpost Jon, too much.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

And yet, funny.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

When losing the war of words, resort to the war of images.

Bauhaus is such a shitty font.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Typeface. Whatever.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

We're playing a CMJ-sponsored showcase at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/energizer

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Butt Spunk"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, as an opponent of the use of the word "whom," how would you re-write this sentence:

I searched MySpace for my HS is NC and found 4 results, all of whom were still living in the same tiny town.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Is "results" really a person? "Whom" sounds double wrong there.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Bauhaus seems like a strange name for a fairly decorative font. It has more in common with a teenage girl's bubble writing than a utilitarian restrained aesthetic.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Fine.

I found four people, all of whom were living in the same small town.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Is "results" really a person? "Whom" sounds double wrong there.

Then say "found for people," which would be more correct. The word "results" isn't quite right, but "whom" is not the problem.

XPOST JUST WHAT JESSE SAID

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny = OTM

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

But if he's searching for the name of the high school, results sounds a little more appropriate.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

i have just had the epiphany that i can turn images off. woo.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

it gets you through the hard times.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think "... and found four people" is any less appropriate than "...and found four results." And considering there's no good way to use "results" and keep it as one sentence, I'd argue for "people."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Try not keeping it as one sentence, then. Two sentences is no crime.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! I mean, it will limit our "img, please" fun but at least it circumvents the histronics.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Well it'd certainly allow you to eliminate "whom" then.

"I searched Myspace for my high school in North Carolina and found four results. All of the people were still living in the same small town."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

it's fine as one sentence with "people" and "whom". "results" would need two. xp that works.

does anyone have recommendations for online recipe sites that don't suck? especially for veggies?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

John I would get drunk and watch those games with you if I were, you know, in town. Instead I'll be sitting in a hookah bar on campus with a bunch of guys.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'll find you on my way to Cleveland!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

OMG.

OK, what I was attempting to type was "I searched MySpace for [people who went to] my HS and found only four people, all of whom have dingy fever."

Point being, that unless you split that into 2 sentences (thereby making it needlessly wordy and choppy), there is no way around using "whom" without sounding strange.

...found only four people, and all of them have malaria.
...found only four people, all of who are pedohpiles.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

What campus has a hookah bar? This would have been so abused at my school.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Another picture:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/skyline_morning2.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

damn, that's pretty.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I keep waiting for Christopher Lowell to pop over the horizon.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse: write it like you would say it. "I searched Myspace for old HS classmates, and I found four of them. Every single one of these wastes of skin still lives in the same shitcan town."

See? Better.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

...found only four people, scientologists all.

maybe that's awkward, i dunno.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

the wording of kenan's second sentence makes it much less choppy.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Purdue has a hookah bar. And I don't think know if it's abused or not, but it does have dancing girls.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse: write it like you would say it. "I searched Myspace for old HS classmates, and I found four of them. Every single one of these wastes of skin still lives in the same shitcan town."

A. I did write it like I would say it: "I found four people, all of whom are fine folks."

B. The way you wrote it uses a lot more words to express the same idea, which is much more concisely put if you are not trying to avoid "whom."

xpost It's not as choppy, but it is wordy.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

...found only four people, scientologists all.

Not awkward necessarily so much as (melo)dramatic.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm adding meaning, admittedly. I do not want to talk about "whom" on the internet. Do what you want.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

But I still say that if you use "whom" in conversation, you sound like you're wearing a cheap suit.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

i suppose you'd want to have the wording reflect the drama, so it would depend on whether they were all serial killers or if they only had hangnails or something.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

True. In the event that you find out that all of your former classmates are Scientologists, a bit of drama is called for.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

i think i might use "whom" in speech at times. i say all sorts of things though, and it's hard to keep track.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

The giant bowl of vegetable udon that I just destroyed really helped me feel normal again. It turned out that what I needed all along was NOODLES.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

i'm soooooo hungry, i hope i can get over to the cafeteria before it closes.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/lowelldance.gif , please.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have images off but I click on most of the hyperlinks anyway. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I use whom in casual conversation all the time and my one suit is certainly not cheap. Nor do I ever wear it. Therefore, Kenan, suck it.

As for on-line recipe sites, I usually go to cookinglight.com BUT you have to have a subscription to access their recipes so that's no good. Epicurious.com is not bad, though. I don't know about for veggies. Does Vegetarian Times have a website?

What kind of veggies do you want to cook and what are you looking to do with them?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

i've been looking at vegweb, since my roommate is vegetarian. it seems like just about all online sites are really variable for recipes--i keep wanting to modify them, or getting disgusted at how boring they are. we have a bunch of cauliflower, and some eggplant, and kale, and i'm not even sure what else. spinach. i'm sick of good veggies going bad in our fridge.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

i'm giving serious consideration to getting the old-style badge tattooed on my shoulder. someone please talk me out of this.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T DO IT.

why are you considering this?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

xp - What would stop you from modifying them? That's the only way to do it, I think. I usually look at several similar recipes and take parts from each and then write it down so I don't forget how I did it. Then I put it in my recipe folder. My recipe folder that has a puppy on it.

As for the Old Style, do you have tattoos already or is this your first one?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

PS -- DO NOT DO IT.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

i am the only member of my family without a tattoo, which for years was a source of pride. but seeing as i've come to terms with the fact that i'll never be able to afford realizing my dream of getting the periodic table of elements across my back i've decided to be more realistic. and i love old-style and it would serve as a constant reminder of my time in chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I say do it, why the hell not? I need to get my U.P. tattoo one of these days.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the periodic table would be really cool.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

why the hell not?

this was pretty much the compelling idea behind it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

xp the periodic table is so much cooler. xp again see? dan says so too.

my modifications aren't particularly original. but adding sesame oil does improve all sorts of recipes.

the idea is that my roommate wants to learn to cook better and i'll mostly be instructing her by yelling ingredients and advice to her from the computer in the main room, so i'd prefer things to be straightforward, but meh.

i have a sweet and very fluffy cat peering at me.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

the periodic table presents it's own problems. namely the cost, the time, the pain (i'm pretty much all rib and spine back there), and the fact that man has yet to catch up with science.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

What's Old-Style?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

God, this veggie talk has me thinking of the mountain of stuff that came with the "shrimp thing" discussed upthread. I think I want to bathe in a mixture of hosin, sriracha, and fish sauce...

xpost: http://www.40ouncebeer.com/pics400/oldstylebottle.jpg

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

i used to have the caffeine molecule on a coffee mug--that could be a scigeek tattoo. some coworker stole the mug, grr.

my roommate was folding laundry yesterday and she has a tshirt that says "hold me, i'm a fermata". that's just so bad, and so geeky that it's totally charming.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

don't bathe in oyster sauce because then you'll smell like vagina. according to jesse.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

What's Old-Style?

http://www.40ouncebeer.com/pics400/oldstylebottle.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

and my coffee mug.

http://www.mrpickles.com/IMAGES/mrPmug.gif

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

But with the hosin and chili I'll be a sweet and spicy vagina...?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, hoisin

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

TOTALLY get the Old Style tattoo. You might regret it one day, but so what? I'll bet it's not the only thing you'll regret one day, wild man. Besides, it's not really permanent. It's only for the rest of your life.

I think I want to bathe in a mixture of hosin, sriracha, and fish sauce...

And then wear some sort of lettuce bikini...

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

And a bean sprout wig.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

And jalepeno earrings. And a necklace of sugar cane grilled shrimp.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

fuckin' a, i'm doing it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I am now laughing almost as much as I laughed at "Dan Dan Peed in a Pan."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Dan Southeast Asian Food Man

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

"hold me, i'm a fermata".

haha

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

You people all have tote bags decorated with treble clefs and staffs that say, "Music is my bag," don't you?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I see myself dressed that way, running down the street being chased by a flock of birds and ants. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes B sharp, never B flat, always B natural.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

You people all have tote bags decorated with treble clefs and staffs that say, "Music is my bag," don't you?

Have you read Meghan Daum's My Misspent Youth?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Dan - And hungry people with chopsticks and soup spoons.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Chinese_spoons.jpg/300px-Chinese_spoons.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

If that's an essay where she talks about "Music is my bag" people then yes I have.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's an essay collection in which "Music is My Bag" is a chapter.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I have definitely read a "Music is My Bag" excerpt (I think in Harper's, and many years ago) and what I read was definitely where I got the inspiration for my above comment so I am going to go ahead and say that that is the essay collection that inspired the "music is my bag" comment.

The essay really hit home because I was *this close* to being a "music is my bag" type person.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

i had a violin teacher that had notepads everywhere that said "chopin liszt". but that's just dumb.

all my tote bags have drug adverts on them. or i have one with hieroglyphics.

i used to have pens that advertised viagra that had a big sproingy spring as a very prominent part of the pen design.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, otto, are you saying you might get Mr. Pickles too? Or just the Old Style badge? or both?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

xposts Now, is that like a "Visualize Whirled Peas" person? Meaning that they shop from some NPR/PBS catalog or something?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Or "Reunite Godwanaland?"

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

i think i may have been close to being a 'music is my bag' person too. oh my.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Me too -- it's called being 9 years old! No one expects 9 year olds to be cool. It's better if they're not, really.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Even if you're 11, 12, whatever. It's not that bad. Is it?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

just old-style. and I have an idea for the other shoulder.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm enjoying that essay, but it's definitely "Concert band is my bag" than "music is my bag". And those people keep their bag well into college (and beyond).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I need help with tattoos. I have come to realize that I can't do this on my own; it takes a village.

The situation: I think having 1 isolated tribal-ish tattoo is pretty sad. I am in a worse situation, having 1 tribal-ish shoulder tattoo and 1 really embarrassing dumb dumb dumb tattoo on my hip. I want more skin covered with better tattoos.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

are you going to work on having more skin first, or more tattoos?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

The whole thing is very OTM.

"Having a Bag connotes the state of being overly interested in something, and yet, in a certain way, not interested enough. It has a hobbyish quality to it, a sense that enthusiasm developed at a time when the enthusiast was lacking in some significant area of social or intellectual life. Music is My Bag is the mother of all Bags, not just because in the early 1980s some consumer force of the public radio fund-drive variety distributed a line of tote bags that displayed that slogan, but because its adherents or, as they tend to call themselves, "music lovers," give off an aura that distinguishes themselves from the rest of the population. It's an aura that has to do with a benign cluelessness, a condition that, even in middle age, smacks of that phase between prepubescence and real adolescence. Music is My Bag people have a sexlessness to them. There is a pastiness to them. They can never seem to find a good pair of jeans. You can spot them on the street, the female French horn player in concert dress hailing a cab to Lincoln Center around seven o'clock in the evening, her earrings too big, her hairstyle unchanged since 1986. The fifty-something recording engineer with the running shoes and the shoulder bag. The Indiana marching band kids in town for the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, snapping photos of each other in front of the Hard Rock Cafe, having sung their parts from the band arrangement of Hello Dolly the whole way on the bus, thinking, knowing, that it won't get better than this. Like all Music is My Bag people, they are a little too in love with the trappings. They know what their boundaries are, and they load up their allotted space with memorabilia, saving the certificates of participation from regional festivals, the composer-a-month calendars, the Mostly Mozart posters. Their sincerity trumps attempts at snideness. The boys' sarcasm only goes a fraction of the way there, the girls will never be great seducers. They grow up to look like high school band directors even if they're not. They give their pets names like Wolfgang and Gershwin. Their hemlines are never quite right."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

The Indiana marching band kids in town for the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, snapping photos of each other in front of the Hard Rock Cafe, having sung their parts from the band arrangement of Hello Dolly the whole way on the bus, thinking, knowing, that it won't get better than this

This reminds me of high-school theatre!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Don't you notice the parallel between THE BAG and THE TATTOO?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Just another breed of nerds.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to get that fleur de lis sometime.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Huffing is my bag.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Goddamn you have to be precise around here...

I want more OF MY skin covered in tattoos. Last thing I need is more skin.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's the musician equivalent of the crazy cat person who buys everything with cats on it, even if he or she doesn't need the thing, just because there are cats on it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

it would be fun to work on having more skin though. don't mind me, i've been fantasizing about recipes.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Bag people are great. They're easy to shop for.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

i'm confused, is jesse getting his bag tattooed?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

V. v. otm.

um, xpost to Jordan.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh totally. I once dated a girl who was both a Music is My Bag person AND a Fish is My Bag person. For Christmas I got her some crappy painted wooden fish from Pier One, and she got me a Benny Goodman CD.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Bags are my bag.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

My friend Patrick told me that he would like to do a one-two on his nuts: first Botox to prevent wrinkling and then a tattoo of an 8-ball.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

That's just silly.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

botox on his bag is his bag

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Botox is my sack?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of wish I hadn't posted that.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, since when do you go by "Jess"? I thought Harvell was Myspacing me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know why I called myself Jess on there. I think it is because I originally got on MySpace to look up someone and didn't plan on really using it. I signed up about 3 years ago and since then only added my first friend within the past 4 months.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I had not called myself that. I don't hate being called "Jess" but I don't really like it either. It only really bothers me when people who I just met call me that.

However, when guy-guys (even guy-girls, like my sports-fiend friend Heather) call me that right off the bat, I like it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's a male/cool-kid approval thing.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, sorry, I abbreviate EVERYONE'S names and have almost certainly called you "Jess" at some point.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

What if the door guy at Big Ch1cks called you that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

He'd give him the silent treatment.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Help me complete this list. Four more and I can parlay it into an article:

B-52s, "52 Girls"
Sonic Youth, "Swimsuit Issue"
RuPaul, "Supermodel"
Lou Bega, "Mambo No. 5"
DMX ft. Sisqo, "What These Bitches Want"
The Nails, "88 Lines About 44 Women"

I feel like there's got to be an old Irving Berlin or Cole Porter song that has a list of women's names, since all those old dandies were fond of list songs in general (cf. "You're the Top").

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

If I expanded it to lists of women's AND men's names, I could add Jim Carroll Band's "People Who Died" and Peter Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers." But I like keeping it as a list of women's names -- and be able to talk about the list as commodification.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Weezer - "Tired of Sex" ??

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, thanks. Never heard the song, but then again I haven't heard the DMX or Nails songs, either. (I did just google for the lyrics, though.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

hot topic by le tigre

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Totally.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

'A Bang on the Ear' by The Waterboys (on Fisherman's Blues).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. Did I ever tell you I talked to Mike Scott on the phone once (while I was working at M1nty Fr3sh)?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

The singer, not this guy:

http://www.astrosdaily.com/files/gallery/Scott_Mike_04.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a woman who looked EXACTLY like the mom from Gilmore Girls today. She was driving her SUV out of the parking lot of the school at Division and Wood.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

No J., never heard that story - did he put out a record with them? (I can send ye an MP3 of the song above if you want it.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it was a solo record. And yes, please send the mp3, thanks!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

I want an empanada ... STAT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

He's been collaborating with Thea Gilmore, who, at her best, is the bee's knees, so I'm excited to see what they make.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

You just made me realize that I've been conflating two ILX posters, one named Thea from California and the other named TRG (e-mail address "trgilmore") from NYC.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

TO THE DATABASE

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

No way! Tokyo Rose lives upstate now but she's an old sinisterine and former Jersey City girl AND a devoted knitter. I'm meeting her at a craft fair next weekend, in fact.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

So remember all that trouble with the landlord and the laundry we were having? WELL we had an "Angry Tenant Meeting" tonight and not as many people showed up as I would have liked. But the people who showed up were REALLY ANGRY. And they have all agreed to work their own individual buildings and angry up everybody else. So hopefully I will soon be able to do laundry in my building, like Jesus intended, instead of having to go to Spin Cycle, where Satan hangs out.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

! Tokyo Rose lives upstate now

You have an interesting definition of "upstate"

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, north of the city. As far as I'm concerned, WESTCHESTER is upstate. Plus I admit I'm not entirely clear on where she lives.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, I don't have much to say in direct response to yr post but I found it highly amusing and charmingly you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

Spent my evening moving into the space my new band's going to rehearse in. Big warehouse off of California, and a nice big room that we're going to share with four clean-cut dudes that evidently sound like Coldplay. The AC works in the place and that is nice.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

Weezer - "Tired of Sex" ??
-- Holy makkara, Toivo! (thedanmarti...), June 6th, 2006 4:47 PM. (OutDatWay) (later) (link)
Nice, thanks. Never heard the song, but then again I haven't heard the DMX or Nails songs, either. (I did just google for the lyrics, though.)

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), June 6th, 2006 4:55 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)

GAK!! *Jess dies of exasperation*

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

With all due respect, and don't take this as an insult at all, but what business do you have writing about music?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny--Did you not like the Coin Laundry on Broadway? Also, why did you not do the drop-off service? IT'S MAGIC!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

What's yr new band, Dan?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry John, that sounded mean, but I really didn't want it to. Still, I have trouble understanding A)why you would choose to write about a subject (popular music) in which you have so little background and B)how you manage it.

I suppose it could be argued that not being familiar with stuff one is hearing makes for a "fresh" perspective....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

I did laundry last night at the Launderbar on Southport just south of Addison - capable machines, decent prices, $3 premium pints in the back.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

The Al Gore movie is good, but not terrifically encouraging. I don't think I share Gore's optimism that it's not too late. I think we're seriously, seriously fucked. Seriously.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

AS GOD IS MY WITNESS, I WILL HAVE IN-UNIT W/D ONE DAY!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

WMD: Washing Machine & Dryer

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

Did you not like the Coin Laundry on Broadway?

NO SIR I DID NOT. I don't know if it was just my day to be a freak magnet or if that place is always like it was the day I was in there, but the guy with weird lumps ALL OVER HIS BODY who came in took off his jacket and washed it in a double load washer with no soap was just the last straw. The first 50 straws were too weird to describe individually and besides, the cumulative effect was stronger than the individual events.

Also - there aren't as many machines, it's very, very crowded, there are three seats (and I had to battle 30 Mexican children to get one of them), there isn't anyone monitoring the premises so if some lumpy weirdo wants to get me trapped between a MEGALOADER and the utility sink and have his way with me, I would have to rely on the Mexican children or one timid Vietnamese lady who doesn't speak English and can't operate a dryer (have you ever tried to explain how a coin-operated dryer works to someone when there is a language barrier the size of Hadrian's Wall and she is too timid to make eye contact and seems terrified of failing at laundry and keeps coming over and grabbing your sleeve but not making eye contact and you have to explain to her that you don't work there and you don't know who does and it's her dumb luck that she put six (SIX!!! That's like three hours of drying time) quarters in the broken dryer? It's hard) to save me from sexual assault, it's hot as hell in there, it's filthy, there isn't enough room to fold clothes, and the change machine was broken.

Spin Cycle is only one block south, it's got a bazillion washers, it's always attended, there is ample seating and folding areas, there are video games (that I never play but still they are there) and an ICE CREAM vending machine (that I never use, but, you know, still), there are TVs at strategic locations, and if I go on Sunday afternoons I can do laundry with that hilariously dramatic drag queen who tells long and loud and lurid stories on her cell phone while stretched out on a folding table, which is like a tall, blonde, gay soap opera happening in real life right before my eyes.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

i prefer to get my laundry stolen from retro wash instead of going to the 24 hour laundromat that is a block closer to my place. the 24 hour place has free dryers but it also seems to be a clubhouse of sorts for the homeless people of the ukrainian village and is always packed with snot-nosed kids with impetigo and god knows what else who run amok in the laundry carts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

NO SIR I DID NOT

Oh. Wow. I think you broke my local laundry.

Normally the place has an attendant. And normally lumpy people are forbidden.

Spin Cycle looks very very nice compared to Coin. I guess it is a matter of relative distance and convenience. You are already walking 2 long blocks, so 1 more is only 1/3 farther. I on the other hand am

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

don't leave us in suspsense jesse.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. Very strange....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

How the hell did that happen?

Oh, I see.... the < is where everything went wrong.

I on the other hand am [LESS THAN] 1/2 block from Coin so going to Spin Cycle would increase my walk by 3X. Plus I have not had quite the bad day you had. Though I agree that it's tight in there.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

i hate it when my "recent documents" doesn't actually show what documents i've been working on recently. goddamn it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. And like like when you open a program like word or something and go to File and it doesn't list something you were just working on a few minutes ago. THE DUMBEST!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I so should call in sick for work. I am halfway down the road to recovery from a chest cold that nearly took my life last night at work. (My work involves a lot of loud "projecting" across large tables, but when I would do that I would get a tickle in my throat and go into an uncontrollable teary-eyed coughing fit; twice I gagged and nearly threw up from the force of the coughing---fortunately I was able to make a hasty retreat to the service station where only my coworkers got to witness this horror.)

I need to work though and it's only a lunch so it will only be 3 hours....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

i've got the same thing jesse, i went into a coughing fit this morning while alighting the blue line. it lasted all the way down the stairs and onto the next bus. my eyes were filled with tears and i wasn't sure i was getting on the right bus except i recognized a guy i work with in front of me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

I have horrible allergy-face. My eyes are on FIRE. On the upside, I feel much better about myself today. I got 8 hours of sleep (with a cold washrag over my eyes to soothe the unholy itch.) But 8 hours!!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

otto-- I understand that what causes these fits is post-nasal drip!

A couple of tables noticed my fucked-up voice, so I started offering a disclaimer. I didn't want them to think I was spreading my junk to them as I tasted their drinks.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

the catalpa tree outside my apartment is losing it's blossoms. they're strewn all over the sidewalk and on my stoop. i sat out there last night for about an hour while the sun was going down, it smelled so sweet. it's probably what's also driving my allergies. i'll take it though.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, my nose has been running like a faucet for a week.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Dumb:

I picked up a copy of my work schedule on Saturday, but on Monday I couldn't find it so I called work to get it. I grabbed the first piece of paper I could find to write it on; today I unfold the paper to find that I wrote my schedule ON my schedule.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

That's funny.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to crawl out from under covers on grey days like this one, I just want to smell the damp greenness and watch endless DVDs. Also, I can't be bothered to get dressed for anything, anymore -- I might start wearing the same skirt & some slip-on shoes ALL SUMMER LONG. I know: ME, hating clothing! But how can anyone expect me to care when there are bikes to be ridden and ice cream to be eaten (which will certainly keep me from fitting into my fall wardrobe). This might also be the PMS speaking.

XXP: Hahaha.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I've decided to stop caring about my hair. It will grow and I will wear it up every day in the same way like my own little hijab. It will only be taken down at home for washing or to see what it smells like.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

And if it smells bad, BACK UP IT GOES!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I've decided to stop caring about my hair.

i came to the same decision about a year and a half ago. i only get a haircut now when my hair impedes my ability to see. though i do need to get it cut soon as it's back in my eyes again.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Try bangs. You can cut 'em yourself!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

And if it smells bad, BACK UP IT GOES!

Interesting when that is the only line you can see on the screen, and you haven't read the other stuff that would put this in context.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

i need my hair to be a lot shorter all the way around. when it's wet it goes down to my chin and past my shoulders now. warm humid weather + wool cap-like hair = not good times in chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Annoying:

Patrick (guy I went out with on a few dates, only real date since '01, and my comisserater in singleness) has a boyfriend. It would have been nice if he had kept that info to himself.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

The answer to Otto's hair problems is clearly a mullet. And I'm barely resisting posting a picture of one of those sheepdogs (pullis?) with the hair that dreadlocks naturally.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, your constant anger at people who are in relationships is tiresome. Just because someone is in a happy relationship doesn't mean they have always been that way, and nobody is paired up just to piss you off, despite what you may think. You aren't some special lonely little flower, or unique in your relationship situation, okay?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Your statements and violent reactions to people who are happily in relationships makes me think that you would be very happy to see Jeff and I split up, and that makes me very, very, very sad.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

it's getting kinda mullety on it's own, much to my chagrin. the last two times i've had haircuts the chick cutting my hair remarked that it would "dread really nicely" and asked if i'd thought about it. i spared her all the reasons why i think dreads on white people are at least rediculous if not outright insulting.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, can you just buzz it? Then you can go longer in between haircuts and you can just do it yourself.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

I've been considering doing a self-buzz for the very first time!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I could pull off the buzz, but I can't. Too lumpy a head have I -- Potatohead Dan, if you will.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason, Jordan, I thought you had really short hair already...? How different wd a buzz-cut BE?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have short hair, but it's always been longer on top rather than all one length. I've been paying for haircuts like a sucker for years (at least post-high school, after I cut off my heavy metal hair).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

With all due respect, and don't take this as an insult at all, but what business do you have writing about music?

My many blind spots stopped me from writing about music until quite recently. And even now I'm all too aware of the degree to which many of my colleagues are so much better acquainted with certain things than I am.

However, let me say this: when I started writing about music, it was for my blog, just to record some thoughts I'd been having. When I got offered the opportunity to write for $tylus, I was excited but also terrified at having to assume the role of "expert" that most people expect published critics to be. So I decided straight-away that I wasn't interested in writing album reviews -- which do depend on an extensive familiarity with the artist's past work as well as broader contexts (other artists in the genre, etc.). I've chosen to write things like short singles reviews and On First Listen articles, where the immediate reaction is often valued over the reflective history.

What I think is worthwhile about my music writing, then, is less the music part than the writing part. I think I write clearly and evocatively and am able to make some insightful connections. I've often said that writing about music specifically is something I just sort of happened into, as a result of discovering ILX and by extension the blogs and webzines of the music geeks that post here. Throughout much of high school and college, I'd have said that I was into film as much as (if not more so than) music, and I can easily imagine things turning out differently if I'd discovered a bizarro-ILX that was devoted to film.

I'd also like to add that I don't think vast knowledge about music need be a requisite for good writing about it. I think we expect our critics to be omnivorous and have catholic tastes, and that is definitely a good thing, as it lends a studied sense of perspective. But I've also read amazing writing by people who aren't experts about everything, and what comes across instead is passion and imagination. Those are the qualities I want to imbue in my own writing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, Chicago! It's a beautiful day! The planet is not dead yet! Huzzah!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, can you just buzz it? Then you can go longer in between haircuts and you can just do it yourself.

that's what i used to do, i'd shave it all off, let it grow for 4 months, then shave it all off again. the picture on my license is me with almost no hair. my friend lisa says i look like an aids patient in it. i'm not going to buzz it off but it will definitely be shorter. soon, hopefully.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh oh, and the other thing: I don't REALLY think I have SO little background when it comes to music. So I haven't heard three songs by Weezer, DMX, and the Nails: so what? I know Pinkerton was a fairly popular album among people our age, but I wouldn't say that not knowing it is indicative of a lack of knowledge about music in general.

I think of $tylus writers like Dav1d Drak3 and Nat3 D3Young, who write mostly about hip-hop/R&B and electronic/dance, respectively -- and very intelligently so -- but who are also upfront about their total lack of knowledge of or interest in most indie rock.

And when $tylus did the tribute to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, I was one of the only writers who volunteered to write some singles reviews, and it was partially because I actually knew some of the one-hit wonders from 1991 (like Karyn White's "Romantic") and had things to say about them. (I think I'm probably more knowledgeable than most about Top 40 from the early '90s and mid-'00s, as well as other things like late 90s post-rock and lounge-pop.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

A man just walked by and wordlessly handed me a cupcake.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I don't REALLY think I have SO little background when it comes to music.

OTM. Jesse is wrong. There's lot of music that any given person doesn't know.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, it has chocolate chips in it!

I agree with John, most of the music writing I like is born out of enthusiasm for small areas of music (although I guess you can never have too many reference points).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, do you know this cupcake donor?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Girls' haircuts, con: they cost a fortune, more than boys' for the most part.
Girls' haircuts, pro: girls can grow it out and not get it cut for years at a time and no one looks askance.

haircuts vs haricots

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I know he is the dude in the third cubicle down on the right.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

The only thing really stopping me from letting mine grow is the discomfort that would ensue.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

haircut at big hair in roscoe village costs me $15 pre-tip. a friend of a friend said she wanted to cut my hair and gave me her card but between the time she gave it to me and the time i checked to see how much it would cost she was featured in some magazine and essentially doubled her rate.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, apropos of my previous posts: On First Listen: Booker T. and the MGs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Girls' haircuts, con: they cost a fortune, more than boys' for the most part.

my ex-roommate used to get her hair cut every six weeks at this place on rush st. and it was $120 not including tip. insanity.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

A man just walked by and wordlessly handed me a cupcake.

SEND HIM OVER HERE. I was just whining to Jeff that I wanted some cake.

xpost: $60 haircut twice a year, whether I need it or not. I was thinking I should invite my stylist out for drinks or something because I really like her a lot but can't afford to see her more often than I already do. How does one make friends with your hair cutter? Is it appropriate to cross that bridge from professional/client to pals?

I wonder that about the lady who cleans our house, too, because she's neat as hell and I'd like to hang out with her but I don't want to make things weird.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

By weird, I mean weird for me. Although it shouldn't be weird. My mother pays her sister-in-law to clean her house. And they became in-laws when everybody went out for drinks, so, whatever. I'm being dumb.

The end.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

How does one make friends with your hair cutter? Is it appropriate to cross that bridge from professional/client to pals?

Not too difficult when she unexpectedly shows up to Fake F1ct1ons/Sharx shows and then you add her on MySpace a couple days later.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

and that you'd basically have to be an asshole not to appreciate a good groove.

Awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Shout-outs to Kenan and Jordan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I got a kick outta that. :> Nice article (it was kinda weird having read the embryonic version in your ILX posts already).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Access to the URL: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/on_first_listen/booker-t-and-the-mgs.htm has been denied.

(Your request was denied because of its content categorization: Music/Web Radio.)

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Aw. That sucks. Well, hit it later.

Good article, jaymc.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like the conversational tone, kinda like Arthur's record reviews, which are literally two guys sitting around and talking about what they're listening to.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Girls' haircuts, pro: if your hair is all one length, you can cut your own, if uh you really don't care much about a bit of unkemptness. or you can have a friend cut it for you. (i have v low maintenance hair)

i used to have a hairdresser friend, and it was rather confusing. he was moving up in the world and working at a super upscale salon, and sometimes he'd cut my hair for free, or charge just a little bit, and sometimes he'd charge $60, which is more than i'd ever spent on my hair.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, to answer Jordan's question from last night: the new band is me and two guys that I played with in Hunting Stories. Guess they came back around to the idea of being in a band again, I dunno. This time it's only the three of us, and will be a lot more rockin' I hope.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ihave posted a song to the blog illustrating John's exploration of the word "bag."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

where'd everyone go? both the chicago thread and my inbox are devoid of activity.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

HI KEVIN.

I have to read a lot about ERISA. It's not as boring as it sounds, but I'd rather be sitting at a shaded table outside drinking beer.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Let's pretending we're at a shaded table outside drinking beer. I think I will have a wheat beer with a lemon in it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

i did a lot of work this morning, freeing myself up for an afternoon of mischief but it's less fun being mischievous by yourself.

x-post: anchor steam, please.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I really want an iced tea. A properly prepared iced tea. SUN tea, I think.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

iced tea is tempting. though lemonade is more so. i really love lemonade in the summer.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

The only fruit I like in my beer is a lime in my Corona. I don't really drink Blue Moon much anymore (esp. after finding out it's owned by Coors), but some bars will toss oranges in any old Belgian White (like Allagash). To which I say "boo": I like the light, dry, peppery taste just fine by itself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

properly sour lemonade. none of this oversugary shit.

xp i was surprised by how nicely lemons compliment the right wheat beer. it really depends on the beer though.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Let's pretending we're at a shaded table outside drinking beer. I think I will have a wheat beer with a lemon in it.

Haha, this could turn out really dorky.

::flags down bartender::

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

i don't like orange slices in my oberon either.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Let's pretending we're at a shaded table outside drinking beer. I think I will have a wheat beer with a lemon in it.

::totally gets caught checking out the waitress::

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

If you're getting Anchor Steam, we're probably at Moody's in the beer garden, which means that we'll have a pitcher. They're only $9.

Yes, I'd like a glass please. And a side of fries.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

are there cheesefries? or nachos? nachos would be awesome.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think they have nachos. They have everything else. Anyone care for a pitcher of sangria?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

sweet potato fries? mmmmmmmmm sweet potato fries...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

can my bank account handle me stopping off for an afterwork beer tonight? probably not. will this stop me? maybe.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was surprised to see Anchor Steam at Moody's when I was there last, but I actually order it pretty frequently at Hopleaf, Guthrie's, and Village Tap.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

where is moody's?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really drink Blue Moon much anymore (esp. after finding out it's owned by Coors)

See, I love Blue Moon, and firmly believe it got way better after Coors bought it. It used to taste like somebody came in it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh sweet potato fries! Yes, please.

I don't like Blue Moon - I think it's too sweet. And I prefer a lemon to an orange in my wheat beer. An orange is... too sweet.

We've been keeping up a steady supply of iced tea (not sun tea, but brewed for sure) in our fridge lately. I really like drinking it for breakfast.

I'll take a Belgian sour ale isntead of a wheat beer to avoid the fruit/no fruit controversy. Of course, this means we aren't at Moody's. But how about we pretend we're at Moody's beer garden but with the beer selection at the Hop Leaf. While we're on the internet pretending to be outside drinking.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Broadway, just south of Thorndale. It roolz winter AND summer with cheap, high-yield pitchers.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

An orange is... too sweet.

Yes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Moody's Pub

Note: not actually the best burgers in Chicago. By far. But the beer garden is very pleasant.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, what's wrong with Coors? I mean, are they a bunch of anti-abortion wackos with some official policy of setting cats on fire or something?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

coors= racists & nazis.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I know that when I was in college, we were all boycotting Coors for some reason, but I can't remember why. I am generally opposed to big American corporate beer because I love beer. But if BACB makes a good product, I'll drink it. Although if given a choice, I won't.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bamn.com/boycott-coors/

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I see. Ok, Coors really is evil.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

This is not what most people mean when say they know a lot about beer.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Fruit in beer: no.

Burgers: yes.

Things I wanted to do over lunch: get a burger, buy some minimalist classical cds, stop home and make some tweaks on a song

Things I got to do after meetings ran long: nothing

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Time for leftover Indian food!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ah yes. I still have beans and nan.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

i'm eating peanut butter and cheese crackers! they're gross!!! i can't stop eating them!!!!!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Are you eating COMBOS?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I'll have a 3 Floyd's.

Lime is absolutely essential for Tecate, Modelo, et al. but I really don't like fruit of any shape or form in my beer besides that.

Exception: Lenie's Berry Weiss. I shouldn't like it but I do.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

god i wish, i looooove combos.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:Jpt0QIBjtxJmqM:http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews11/milwaukee-minnesota/fishing%2520with%2520john%2520criterion%2520dvd%2520review%2520PDVD_007-01.jpg

"Cheese on cheese...cheese on cheese...cheese on cheese."

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

omg soooooo doooooo I!!!!!!!

My favorite is nacho cheese pretzel, but cheddar pretzel is a close second.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, if we're talking beers that are brewed with fruit, that's a bit of a different story.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

combos combos combos
why are they so good?
combos combos combos
taste better than they should

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite is nacho cheese pretzel,

OT FUCKING M!!!!!

pizzeria pretzel is pretty good in a pinch.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Bottle of Bud and an ashtray, please.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

So, do you like to crack the pretzel/cracker part open and suck out the processed cheese product? That's how the professionals do it.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, do you actually like Bud?

http://www.hopleaf.com/draft_menu.html
http://www.hopleaf.com/bottle_menu.html

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Mind you, I don't actually like BEER.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

I take that back, I like a wheat beer with lemon on the rim SOME of the time. But for chain-smoking and getting fucked up, I drink vodka gimlets.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Bell's Two-Hearted, please.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going out for a couple of high life's and many cigarettes this evening after work. who wants to join me?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

But for chain-smoking and getting fucked up, I drink vodka gimlets.

vodka gimlets, meet gin and tonics.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

High Life is my favorite commercial beer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

it's the champagne of beers.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

True indeed.

Uh oh, someone asked me to sub for a big band gig next weekend. I better get those chart-reading skills ~~back~~ in shape.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I wish I had access to odd statistics about my life, such as number of beers I've drunk, by brand. I have a feeling PBR would be #1, but I'm really curious what #2 would be. Sierra Nevada?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

My #1 would overwhelmingly be Leinie's Original.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

my number one would probably be sam adams followed by bud follwed by harpoon followed by pbr.

my dad used to drink pbr back in the '70s, it was probably my first drink.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

wow, awesome show saturday:

Saturday Jun 10th
at Subterranean
Krunchies
The Spits
Tyrades
Frustrations

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea what mine would be! But Leinie's Red is probably my second favorite commercial beer.

Most drunk beers on a Madison night out: probably New Glarus Spotted Cow, Capital Amber, Lake Louie Scotch Ale

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

actually, what i really want right now is a duvel.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sleepindown.com/luxury.jpg, please.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

i've got a king sized down comforter! one of the best things i ever bought! plus the green brushed denim cover makes it teh warmest thing evah.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

and soft, way way soft.
like my dog, i'm very tactile.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Warm blankets are the best part of winter, even though I haven't owned a comforter sinc I was a kid.

I am BORED>

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc, we need you on the noise board, stat

― lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Fun fact: A coworker's friend works in the maternity ward of a local hospital. Apparently, work was dead yesterday for the first time in a REALLY long time. Two days leading up to 6/6/6, they were slammed with ladies trying to get induced or c-sections, trying to avoid the date. WHAT IS UP? PEOPLE BE SILLY.

In other news, a bike messenger came in my office today and said he'd heard my album and it was INTERESTING. I was like, oh really? Yeah, that's interesting stuff you play. So I asked him what he likes. He said, Ramones, man. Ramones...and and Greatful Dead! Anyway, I was actually pretty crushed he didn't like it. "Interesting" is kind of a scathing review, don't you think?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, as for our fantasy, I'm totally up for going in on some nachos and a pitcher of Sangria.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Had you talked about your band with the bike messenger before? Or did he recognize you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I love Leinie's Original.

Sarah, that bike messenger likes the Grateful Dead. What does he know? And Time Machine is my new favorite song, so pffbbbt on him.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

I hope the people who did deliver on 6/6/06 named their sons Damien, out of spite.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Who approaches someone in a band and tells her that her band's music is "interesting" anyway? Whaddayutz.

xpost: Ronald Wilson Reagan

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

did he say he didn't like it or was it otherwise inferred that he was using "interesting" in lieu of a compliment? because that's not, in and of itself, a bad thing necessarily.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

I keep forgetting to order the album.

Here is a piece of music you may find "interesting"

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Some people do not have a good enough vocabulary to come up with things to say about music. It was probably the best word he could think of aside from "good" which sometimes sounds worse than "interesting."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Good" is good!

"Nice" is bad.

"Interesting" is worse.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Not everyone operates on the same system that we do, I'm just saying that maybe he was doing the best he could, y'know?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I love Leinie's Original.

OMG WE"RE LIKE SISTERZ

I say it's my overwhelming number one not because it's my favorite (though I do love it dearly) but because my bar back home would sell 22 oz. glasses for $2.25! TWO TWENTY FIVE, CHICAGO. And there was a lot of protest when they added the extra quarter...

Bars here could learn a lot from the Douglass House.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

By "interesting" he probably meant, "Not enough 45 minute jam sessions."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.csustan.edu/english/reuben/pal/chap3/douglass1.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

No, it was definitely a bad sort of interesting. He's friends with another bike messenger who came to one of our shows. The second messenger bought our cd. He told this one about it and let him hear it.

It's just kind of weird because this guy is always really nice to me and was really excited to find out about my band, but now it seems like he misjudged me and is disappointed in me as a person. HA!

My coworkers were trying to decide which would be worse, having a baby on 6/6/6 or 9/11. THE DUMBEST!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

My first Leinie's Original was on our honeymoon in Dodgeville or some other town of similar size and location and cost a dollar something. Like, it would be cheaper to drive to Dodgeville and drink than it would to drink in Chicago.

The worst day to have a baby: 2/29

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.umich.edu/pres/history/markers/images/houghton.jpg, actually

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and John, when I was little, I used to fantasize that they had those specifics ready for me in heaven. I wanted to know all the trivial things, like how much time of my life I'd spent in the bathroom. When I was on my deathbed, I would need to remember to think of that as an upside to dieing. Also, Jesus would show me to a huge TV screen where I could watch any point of my life I wanted and those of everyone else too. Obviously, I would spy on boys I liked then.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Even worse: Xmas (if yr Xtian). Cuts your lifetime opportunities for presents in half!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

True, true, Jordan. You might win with that one.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defending_Your_Life

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I wanted transcripts of everything I'd ever said.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

(I really liked that movie, Jordan, although I haven't seen it since I was 12.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

This is on my Netflix queue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Life

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants to do a double feature??

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

(I really liked that movie, Jordan, although I haven't seen it since I was 12.)

Same here, the idea was stuck in my head for a couple of years afterwards.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Albert Brooks movies bore me. I've been told they shouldn't, but I have so far been unable to believe it.

I do love "Broadcast News," but that's maybe a different issue.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Albert Brooks didn't direct Broadcast News, he was just in it. James L. Brooks directed it. BROOKS BROOKS BROOKS.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I know who directed it. I do love James "Hell" Brooks.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Just because someone is in a happy relationship doesn't mean they have always been that way, and nobody is paired up just to piss you off, despite what you may think. You aren't some special lonely little flower, or unique in your relationship situation, okay?

I really did not need the gloating IM from him this morning saying, "Guess who has a breakfast partner?" That was really obnoxious. And I think you are wrong, my situation is pretty close to unique--I don't know of anyone else (besides my widowed aunts and schizophrenic people--and my schizophrenic aunt) who has been quite as thoroughly, chronically and unwillingly single as me.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I know several. Good friends of mine too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm amazed at the amount of phlegm and mucus I can produce. My desk trash weighs a ton.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Prior to my current relationship, I only had one five-month fling between 2001 and now. And there were three years of absolutely nothing, not even a drunken kiss.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you need therapy. The main point of therapy, as near as I can tell, is to give you some perspective on your misery. You're not unique. You're just plain not.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that being unique is the point anyway. The point is that I'm fed up.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at least in a small subset.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that being unique is the point anyway. The point is that I'm fed up.

That is so far from being the point. If you go around acting like your misery is differnt from everyone else's, you become very quickly insufferable. I think this is what Jenny was trying to warn you off of.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

The most valuable skill that any adult can have is the skill of emotional abstraction. To be able to take the way you feel out of a situation and see it apart from that. Your constant "I don't have a boyfriend" stuff reeks of a failure to be able to abstract yourself.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Not that all of us aren't just as guilty at times, I'm just saying, it's important to keep the principle in mind.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I bought some eye cream today y'all.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I had to read that about three times because every time my brain assumed you were purposefully misspelling "ice cream" as "eye scream" BUT NO. I think this says something healthy and wonderful about how I think of you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Did I tell you guys about my student who wanted me to call her Stdaphne?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah, as in "Saint Daphne"??

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Saint Daphne?

xpost OMGG!!!!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Nope. More info:

The first day of class she said "Please call me ______." Then she wrote her new American name on the attendance sheet: Stdaphne.

The next time she wrote it, she wrote "Staphne."

What was she trying to write? First person to answer correctly gets a free three-ring binder.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

She's Chinese and has only been here for 3 weeks. Her real name is Li@ng, so I don't know why she wants to change it to Stdaphne, but...she does.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Stephanie?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE???//

XP haha

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, dudes, I had typed out, after Amanda's original "stdaphne" post: "Like 'Stephanie' or like 'Stdaphne'?" But then when Laurel posted, I just erased my post. FYI.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, dudes, I had typed out, after Amanda's original "stdaphne" post: "Like 'Stephanie' or like 'St. Daphne'?" But then when Laurel posted, I just erased my post. FYI.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, Stephanie. I helped her spell it correctly last week and she laughed a little. She said she didn't know how to spell it but it's her favorite American name. Now she knows.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I love Defending Your Life. I've seen it a few times. I'd see it again.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I feel bad for lecturing Jesse. Lord knows I am not the picture of emotional health.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Potentially confusing:

http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/movies/people/s/stefani_gwen/150x223.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Gwen St.Daphne

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I also thought it was cute how her two names had "std" and "staph" in them. What's next, Streppani?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

maybe she had a post-operative infection resulting from surgery to repair a torn ACL and wanted to be known as staph knee.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2005/mlk-ifill.jpg

Gwen Eyeful

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

you know what i love? when you go outside on a breezy day and the corner of your shirt has come untucked, unbeknownst to you, and the breeze just kinda shoots up that little opening in your shirt. that's great. a cheap thrill to be sure but it puts a hop in my step every time.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is that anything like when the breeze goes up your skirt? Because my wrap skirts need to wrap a little further, I think.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I like that Otto appreciates moments like that. It's a very Nicholson Baker-like observation.

Btw, Stephen Colbert gave the commencement address at Kr's alma mater. She was supposed to go but in the end didn't.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if this is on the youtube thread or not, but i don't particularly care.

KITTEN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdXTDovB9K8

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

hAHAHA

Apple OS finds its perfect audience.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, I'm just a happy user, and not even one of those hardcore Mac enthusiasts and you just made me want to kick you, Kenan.

AKA: This kitten has claws!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Julia:

Just for you - http://dlisted.blogspot.com/2006/06/damien-born-on-6606_07.html

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm outta here -- see some of you at the show tonight, oui?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Moody's Pub sucks. I'm boycotting.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

john, moments like that are all i have left.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe people kept leaving in the middle of the best show I will see all year. I haven't had a stupid grin plastered across my face for that long since the last time I did mushrooms.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

What? Man Man?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

No, I went to many other shows tonight.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

It was fine -- it sounded like Tom Waits carnival music, so ummm, I dunno: I admired the energy but not really my bag. You don't ever go to see live music, though, Kenan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

(I mean, I don't really either, these days.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

You don't ever go to see live music, though, Kenan.

This is not true. I get out once a month.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I turn 32 this year. How much live music can I reasonably be expected to go see?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I know -- like I said, I don't go see live music either. This wasn't a conscious decision or anything: it just didn't seem important anymore to see bands all the time. Also, it feels like I see live music all the time, anyway, because I play live music and so I'm in clubs quite often.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

it just didn't seem important anymore to see bands all the time

I try to go see bands that have some buzz for being good live, but I can't bother see every band that has buzz of any kind. Like that second band tonight, where everyone kept saying, "But the record is really good! I promise!" Yeah, ok, but right now, I'm in a world of suck.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

The record is good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

I know. I believe you. But you were one of the people apologizing for how bad they were live. And, wow, they were quite bad. Kind of a one-two punch of loud and boring.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am trying to think of shows that I have seen this year that didn't feature bands I'm friends with:

Belle and Sebastian
Hot Chip
?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

S&TGFB were ignorable, is the thing. Which is why I went and talked to the PFM posse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

But Man Man, on the other hand, was every bit as good live as I have been led to believe. They were goofy, abrasive, madly energetic, and tuneful almost to a fault. I can't decide who my favorite band member is. The guy who plays french horn, trumpet, xylophone, and some sort of improvised tympani? Or is it the guy who sticks two saxophones on his mouth at the same time to get this really weird and resonant kazoo sound?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, indie rock.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

What th fuck? No way is that indie rock. It's The Mothers on Invention. There's a concept happening there.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

Man Man : Tom Waits :: Scissor Sisters : Elton John

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Elton John > Tom Waits

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, of course it's indie rock. Indie rockers LOOOOVE Tom Waits.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Waits : Howlin' Wolf :: George Strait : Bob Wills

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 21,300,000 for "elton john".
Results 1 - 10 of about 7,330,000 for "tom waits".

Results 1 - 10 of about 207,000 for "tom waits" "indie rock".
Results 1 - 10 of about 139,000 for "elton john" "indie rock".

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Waits:old boring blues dude::old country dude:another old country dude who seems like he might be fun?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

old boring blues dude

Either I have to YSI you some Howlin' Wolf, or we can't talk about this anymore. Because you're insanely, insanely wrong.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like Howlin' Wolf is Robert Cray or Stevie Ray Vaughn or something.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I forgot: "boring blues" is redundant.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

Or even BB King! See, there's a boring old blues dude.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to Howlin' Wolf on iTunes now. I get the Tom Waits comparison, so you know, interesting voice etc. -- but it's still blues. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the voice reminds me more of Beefheart.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I forgot: "boring blues" is redundant.

I'm with you for the most part, believe it or not. I don't like blues as a rule. It's not my thing. But then there are some people, like there are in every genre that I otherwise don't like, who stick out as like, amazing, regardless of genre. Howlin' Wolf is definitely one of those.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the voice reminds me more of Beefheart.

Funny, beacuse Beefheart and Waits remind most people of Howlin' Wolf.

But see, he's a staple. Like bacon.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

What song(s) are you listening to?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, just listening to samples: "Moanin' at Midnight," "Back Door Man," "Smokestack Lightning," "I Asked for Water (She Gave Me Gasoline)."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

Those are all awesome.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

So is sleep: good night!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

The voice is everything. The way "Back Door Man" is so so dirty without saying anything dirty. That voice -- my lord. It's one of the most evocative voices ever. It's capable of anything, that voice. Regret, sadness, agression, anger, more regret, and even more regret. And somehow all of this, in any mood, is kinda sexy. I cannot off the top of my head think of a better vocalist.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD ABOUT MUSIC, MAN, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO MORE HOWLIN' WOLF.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot off the top of my head think of a better vocalist.

There's a shortlist that I'm working on.

Howlin' Wolf
Billie Holiday

That's all I have so far. I'll keep you updated.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

I was actually really really enjoying Man Man but was starting to feel the psychological pressure of the 5:15 wake-up call, so that's why we left while they were playing. It doesn't really make sense since I got maybe an extra 15 minutes of sleep by leaving early and I'm going to be fucking tired anyways, but my brain is like that. Kenan, can you copy the Man Man album for me too?

I admit S&TGFB was disappointing, and I can see how someone with no knowledge of them, and even some with knowledge of them, would be annoyed by their performance. Personally, I was put off for the first few songs, then started to get into it in the middle. I still don't think they were amazing or anything, but there was something disorienting and fun happening in the middle of their set.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 June 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Kenan about blues! If it's not a field recording or originally released on a record the thickness of a pancake, I'm not interested.

Thus:

Sun House = awesome.
BB King = Meh.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 8 June 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

If it's not a field recording or originally released on a record the thickness of a pancake, I'm not interested.
But if it IS a field recording or contains groaning, moaning or the sound of a foot stomping on a floorboard, count me in.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I turn 32 this year. How much live music can I reasonably be expected to go see?

i don't buy this as an excuse for one minute.

and if i had some coffee i'd debate the blues thing too but i don't so i won't. john lee hooker was making amazing blues albums into the '70s.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm actually interested in hearing Man Man.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

People like what they like. I like carnival music, but am unsure if I would like Man Man. The soundtrack to Fast, Cheap and Out of Control is good -- does it sound like that but louder/weirder?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Yeah, It kinda does. I would not have thought of that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Our standings in the longest thread ever competition: 5021.

Not too shabby.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Things I call my kitty:

Honey
Sweetie
Evil Little Shit
Fuzzbucket
Goofus
Boobie

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

at the forest park blue line station this morning one big fat guy yelled "you boob!" to another big fat guy who spilled coffee on him. i predict that witnessing that will be the high point of my day.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

This morning on the brown line a woman was walking down the stairs of the platform and GOT HER HIGH HEEL CAUGHT IN THE STEPS, fell down an entire flight, landed on her head/neck, and then ceased to move. The ambulance was still there when I got to work. I don't know what happened to her; it's not in the paper yet.

I have a bit of a morbid fear of falling down steps. This event is makign me pensive. I really hope she's okay.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

EEEEEEEEK. That's terrifying. People are so pushy in the morning too. I hope you're alright, lady!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no no no. I fell down a flight of stairs at a restaurant years ago; my sandal came off and my bare foot got beat up -- the start of my plantar fascitis. But considering I grew up in a house of wooden stairways, some slippery and some rickety, and we always plummeted up and down fearlessly, I'm sad to find that I've feared them since the restaurant.

Cf Laura Ashley.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

this is what is driving my allergies:

http://www.ncwildflower.org/plants/catalpa_speciosa/catalpa_speciosa1.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Good to see you guys at Man Man last night. Sorry I didn't talk long. I partied like a rockstar last night. It was pretty intense, and for all the alcohol I drank, I'm surprisingly fresh today.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.madisonavenuejournal.com/images/daisy-car.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I had a weird night last night. I got home from work all sweaty and hot so I took a shower. I sat down on the couch to chill for a while with a beer and a little dinner... all of a sudden it's 1:30 in the morning, the TV and lights are still on, the beer is spilled on the couch and floor, and I've been asleep the whole time. Of course then I couldn't get back to sleep so I stayed up til 4 and now am kind of woozy at work. I think I may have been roofied!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Does your butthole hurt?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Does that crazy girl know where you live?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

There were all those frat boys I let into the building. But they said they were just there to fix the dryer!

xpost hahahahaha no.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

i was in bed by 9:30 last night.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

where should i move chicago? i'm thinking about not being here for the winter.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

I hear good things about San Diego.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Tijuana.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Almost the same diff.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

i can not move to san diego. it would be nice but can't do it. i'm thinking about doing what i said i'd never do and moving back to boston. i'd prefer somewhere warm but i don't know, i just need a change.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hah, someone just told me this morning that Boston hasn't been the same since Mark Sandman died -- I had to google for that one. But maybe you'll like it better now...?

NB: Totally kidding.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think i could do it, just the thought of being somewhere familiar is comforting. but i don't know, somewhere warm would be nice. boston is not warm for 7 1/2 months of the year.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you had mentioned Memphis. You know people there, it's warm, there's a lot of barbequed meat...

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that's on my mind. i'm going back there again at the end of september.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i'll go overseas, i'll see if the state department is hiring.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

"Memphis on my mind" has got to be some nu-blues song.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

San Diego is really pretty, but I hear the same thing from several people I know who have lived there, which is that the year-round pleasant weather makes everyone just really complacent.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

too expensive and the only person in the world i can truly say i hate lives there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, despite the good things the cost was enough to keep me away. And that's why I came here!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

which is that the year-round pleasant weather makes everyone just really complacent.

SO YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM! GO FORTH AND RAPE SAN DIEGO!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hey dudes. My office was moved into another building today and my computer didn't arrive until an hour ago, so I sorta had the morning off. I went to the record store to get some minimalist classical cds I had seen there (Terry Riley & John Adams), only to find that they just got rid of their whole classical section! Figures.

I've got an office mate now and the room is bigger than my bedroom. It's weird.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

One entire wall is a whiteboard! I need to do a mural or a giant game of tic tac toe.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, move to Philadelphia. I will hook you up with all the Delaware people I know that you remind me so much of and you'll have instafriends.

I have lived in California. I did not like it.

I wish I had a giant whiteboard on one wall of our apartment.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'm kinda looking for somewhere where i don't know anybody and nobody knows me. but that might pass. i should really save up some bacon though because i will want to move somewhere.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

NICK!

I am heading over to your house now to leave 2 CDs between your screen door and back door. One is a mix I made you, and the other is an MP3 CD of a bunch of albums featured on the mix CD. Both are unlabelled, so I will try to help out here.

The mix CD:

1. BORIS - Pink
2. KING CRIMSON - Indiscipline
3. MAN MAN - Black Mission Goggles
4. THE JESUS LIZARD - Monkey Trick
5. WOLF PARADE - It's a Curse
6. ELLEN ALLIEN AND APPARAT - Way Out
7. LADYTRON - Destroy Everything You Touch
8. MATMOS - Steam and Sequins for Larry Levan
9. ISOLEE - Initiate II
10. HET - Throw Out That Rag
11. ROISIN MURPHY - Sinking Feeling
12. ANDREW BIRD - Opposite Day
13. BOB DYLAN - I'm Not There
14. BOOKER T AND THE MG'S - Melting Pot
15. FRED NEIL - Cynicrustpetefredjohn Raga

The MP3 albums:

1. Man Man - Six Demon Bag
2. Fred Neil - Fred Neil
3. King Crimson - Discipline
4. Roisin Murphy - Ruby Blue
5. Andrew Bird - The Mysterious Production of Eggs
6. Booker T and the MGs - Melting Pot
7. Boris - Pink
8. Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles
9. Het - Let's Het
10. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I was also enjoying Man Man. I don't have those psychological fears Nick has about being sleepy the next day. I was just fracking tired. Anyway, I was kicking myself for not wearing my glasses to the show or at least bringing them. I wanted to see all the craziness on stage.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I luv the Jesus Lizard.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm watching mama tiger and baby cubs here.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

It is accomplished.

Also, sandwich. That is also accomplished.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I really want to hear that Roisin Murphy album.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's really good!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan meant to say "YSI?" but he was too bashful.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I luv Jesus Lizard too! I listened to Goat whilst washing dishes yesterday. I don't really care about the singer dude, but the rest of the band is awesome.

KENAN! Thanks for dropping off the music! You are AWESOME! Listening to Man Man right now, yay.

There's a repair guy coming in an hour to look at our internet connection, so of course the internet is working fine now.

I am surprisingly nontired today! However, I'm about to lay down on the couch to listen to Kenan's mix and read the New Yorker, and I may pass out.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Who is Het? They sound like "Deceit" by This Heat, which is a good thing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Lying down on the couch is how it starts, man. Then you get ROOFIED. Read my post above.

Also David Yow is not so much a singer as a whiskey drinker, or so I've heard.

xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan meant to say "YSI?" but he was too bashful.

Haha, yes. Those are the forbidden letters in these parts.

I'd like to hear Man Man too. I almost bought a Howlin' Wolf album over lunch, but I didn't. Richard Davis (bass player who I took a bunch of classes from in college) says that HW is his favorite blues player, and he would talk about how he used to see him in Chicago at his dad's bar back in the 40s and 50s.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Btw here is the finished (I think) version of that drumfunk track I was working on:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=50E550531364421E

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Who is Het?

Oh, it's deliciosly weird.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, are those samples of your drums? Sounds good!

I just got another copy of Reason... maybe I will be able to make beats soon.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Gmail is driving me

http://www.gigwise.com/artists/00008968_crazy_release.jpg http://www.urbanized-records.com/e/pics/jackets/8000/8926.jpg http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/05/0/2/073.jpg http://www.jamster.com/storage/view/546/0/cr/Crazy_Frog_Mobile_Pet1.jpg

right now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

working fine for me. chatting away.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's fine for me too. I had trouble a couple of weeks ago but it worked itself out within a few hours.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Why, John?

Dan, they're actually samples from a Youngbl00d Brass Band track, same for the tuba theatrics.

I'd rather sample my own drumming, but there's something to be said for cutting up a beat that's already been produced/mastered on its own. Gives it that breakbeat vibe. Maybe the trick will be to record drums, add effects + mix + bounce it down to stereo, then treat it like a break.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to Goat whilst washing dishes yesterday.

Such an awesome fucking record.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Het sounds INTRIGUING.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever you think it is, it's not that.

Some YSI's are in order, yes.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Well, you only dangled 8 pounds of bananas in front of us.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Are you all monkeys in this scenario? I would not have gone that far in my characterization of you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking for myself only: Other people have. I'm used to it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

i'm an ape man, i'm an ape ape man, i'm an ape man.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

i'm king kong

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, some of you do smell pretty funny, but I would not say that out loud.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

I dropped my iPod on the way to my car this morning, and now it does not work. It was making the bad whirring sounds and not turning on all morning, and now it's at least showing the apple symbol. I'm not worried though, this has happened before and I am sure that its internal nanomachines will heal it by tomorrow. She's an old slugger.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Are those Jesus Lizard lyrics Otto? :)

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Kinks, dude.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

mine is a kinks song too! i can't remember any of the words, but i could sing the tune for ye for two shillings

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I know, but can't you just hear Yow slurring the shit out of that?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan: The Roisin Murphy album is going to be a while, but I'll let you know when it's uploaded.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

FUNZONE

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

That Handsome Boy Modeling School track she's on is a classic. Best beat Automater ever did, maybe.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Argh. It won't let me click on (and therefore) read my messages. I can do chat just fine, I can search within my inbox just fine, but actually clicking on e-mails DOES NOT WORK. So annoying.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), June 8th, 2006 1:18 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Weird. Sometimes I click on a message and get a "page not found" or connection error, but usually if I close and reopen the window it'll work.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

It won't let me compose a new message either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

both my bosses are out of the office and i've got nothing to do.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in the same boat, except I only have one boss. I think I'm going to bail early and go play drums.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

How do you guys get away with that? I'm guessing you don't have an "electronic timesheet" like I do.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

i'll be here until my tour of duty is official.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

No, I'm salaried.

To be honest, I don't do it all that often (and some more work just showed up so I'm sticking around longer.) But it seems like as long as we get all the work there is to be done done within 24 hours or so, it's all good. Of course, there have been days when it's been busy enough that I've stayed til 7 PM. My boss is pretty relaxed about these things, which is another reason I'm nervous about having a new one coming in.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Like, if I say "cutting out early" on ILX 9 times out of 10 it's 20-30 min before 5. Also, I skip lunch a lot.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I've never had a salaried job in my life. Also timesheets are important for keeping track of how much time is spent on different projects -- at my old job, it kept track of hours billable to various clients.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't had a non-salaried full time job since i was 24.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I've never had a salaried job in my life.

Neither have I, until this one! And I don't actually make any more money than I did temping.

Our work is measured in output. That is, if there are 10 articles in the queue, by our contract those articles have to be dealt with in 48 hours. They prefer it done in 24 hours. Then there are all the ancilliary tasks we perform (helping authors submit, fixing images, being a go-between between the authors and the editors, etc.) that take up the rest of our time. But basically, it's a production line. When there's nothing left to produce, you're done!

Also: Academia, baby! Come on in to its warm, accepting arms. I am spoiled on corporate work for-eva.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say that it's different in publishing, but Dan has apparently proven me wrong.

WHAT THE FUCK.

I'M TOTALLY CAPABLE.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) There are always, always more articles in the queue. And if there aren't, then someone else has a project that needs help.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, different kind of publishing, I guess. Our workflow is totally dependent on when the scientists have time to work. For example, the February-March timeframe was d-e-a-d because most of them are teaching. Yet we come back after Memorial Day weekend and there are like 80 articles that have shown up. Christmas/New Year's is a hectic time too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I luv the Jesus Lizard.

WE ARE SISTERZ AGAIN. Let's get shitty on Leinie's Original and listen to Jesus Lizard. Nick can come, too.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm salaried, but I also have to log my time in 15 minute increments. Which, of course, means thinking up plausible explanations for slacking-off time.

Blogger is pissing me off bigtime.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

THE Jesus Lizard. Sorry. Got them confused with Office for a minute.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://myspace-806.vo.llnwd.net/00805/60/87/805887806_m.jpg vs. http://www.celebopedia.com/ricky-gervais/images/ricky-gervais.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

One of these men got me drunk on whiskey last weekend, but I'm not saying which.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ruby Blue is great. 'Dear Diary' sounds like it's on some Off the Wall shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I could put it on my IPOD. You know, if it wasn't BROKEN.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's THE DUMBEST.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

STUPID IPOD CHILD.
I love that fact that Handsome Boy Modeling School got their name from a "Get a Life" episode. I tried to explain this to the apathetic girl in the record store when I started laughing at the name, and then I remembered, oh yeah, you were a zygote perhaps at the time.
My life is odd right now. Good, but odd. I think I'm having a jaymc moment. (No offence to you, old chum)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 9 June 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

You seem like you have an exciting life right now, Jocelyn. Or at least a lot of possibilities.

I remember one of my friends in high school, pre-dvd and e-bay, made some sort of back-alley deal through the classifieds through which he acquired a complete run of Get A Life on VHS. I think it was for a bunch of taped Simpsons episodes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

HEY, MY IPOD CAME BACK TO LIFE.

I knew she wasn't done yet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

I dropped my iPod once from about waist height (I wear 36" inseam pants) onto hot asphalt. It's got a nice sized dent on top right next to the hold button and headphone jack, but otherwise still operates well *knock wood*. 15GB seems a little small now though. I'm surely not the first person to say that.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 9 June 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

None taken, Jocelyn!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a male model, not a male prostitute.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, two things are pissing me off this morning. one is the sudden ubiquity of wedding rings on any half-way interesting woman i meet. the other is the fact that the "convenience" store at the forest park blue line had a choice of either newports or winston light 100's today. wtf?? i'm smoking winston light 100s now? fuck that shit.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, ain't nothin' wrong with 100s.

People, people, please keep ranting and being amusing and agitated today (JENNY THAT MEANS YOU). I'll glean a little energy that way and at least keep moving until 1ish when I can go home and fall into a deep, deep sleep, during which time thorny vines with doubtless grow up all around my building.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

* WILL doubtless.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

i've ranted already so today's rave: i'm going to a bbq in logan square tonight.
one more rant: it better not fucking rain tonight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and at some point there will either be a rant or rave for/against maker's mark at 1:30 a.m.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, ain't nothin' wrong with 100s.

i may as well be smoking virginia slims.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

100s normally aren't any thinner than the normal size, you know. I've been smoking Marlboro (light) 100s for years and it's just more cigarette for the money.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

The first cigarettes I ever smoked (for close to a year!) were Benson and Hedges Ultra-Light Menthol 100s. WTF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

i know but they're too long, i'm used to the regular size. plus they're in a goddamn soft pack and i don't have a shirt pocket so they're getting crushed in my pants pocket right now.

i just want my camel lights back.
and i wish it was pay day.
and i need coffee.
and my ears don't work.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

who sang "Hymn for the Cigarettes"?

i love to see the girl smoke in my bed...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

benson and hedges remind me of that song.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

hefner, google tells me it was hefner which sounds about right.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

That song is awesome, and it's always "B & H" that brings it to mind. I wish I liked other Hefner as well but I find him really spotty.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

My first ciggie was a Capri. My last was a Camel.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Years ago.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone seen the movie Nothing? It's hilarious.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

i'm having a total flashback to the mid/late 90s with indiepop songs randomly popping into my head. there's some serious synapse firing going on up there. the push kings "macy, macy" especially.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I have two jobs in the balance this morning. I have an interview this afternoon for a perm position, and some fairly lucrative freelance work up in the air as well. I like the sound of the freelance position -- they want something clean and Apple-y, done with all CSS, and using Movable Type as the CMS. Cool! It's perfect! And the perm job would be working with a condo-building company (I imagine not unlike where Sarah works).

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Guess what I heard last night -- two days ago there was a massive H0meland Secur!ty (sorry, I don't want the gov googling me mock me if you must) raid at this place I might teach. People with guns came in and forced all of the students (hundreds of them) to show their visas and say whether or not they work, how they get their money, etc. Lots of dick waving, but I don't know what actually happened, if any students were detained, etc.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Woah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

CHILX: let's get the hell out of this sweaty city this summer and escape to the wilds of western michigan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sweaty? I don't know where you are, but I'm pretty chilly today.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

it's also not summer yet. but i'm willing to bet that there will be, over the course of the next 12 weeks, some oppresively humid days where a cabin away from here will seem like a good idea.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

and i still have that damn macy macy song in my head. it's surprising i still remember the lyrics. that song has to be at least a decade old.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

the summer went that way
I don't remember much about the days
except that they were hot ones

be gentle, oh yeah.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda! That is horrible! Did they show badges? I-I-I want to do something but I don't know what! How the fuck do idiots in this country want to demand that immigrants learn English and then RAID schools where immigrants can go to learn English???????

Man, now I'm angry. I'm too angry to post about all my past cigarette brand preferences.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

1999-2000: Benson and Hedges Ultra-Light Menthol 100s
2000-01: Parliament Lights
2001-03: American Spirit Lights
2003-05: no cigs
2005: Marlboro Ultra-Lights
2006: Camel Lights

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

1989-1991: marlboro lights
1991-1996: marlboro reds
1996-1997: winston/camel lights/paliament lighs
1997-present: camel lights (with the occasional winston light 100s thrown in)

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, they showed badges when they barged in the classroom. That was the same beef I had. If they have to attack/raid, why not attack/raid a place that employs undocumented workers and punish those people instead of an educational institution? The answer to that question is that this particular educational institution has a location on Devon, a lot of Middle Eastern students and is also a private school, where people with money might go. They were interrogating them about where they get their money, etc. I'm just worried that there are going to be more raids because most schools/community centers are not prepared to deal with this.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

"those people" = the people who hired/employed them.

i know the reason, but it seems cruel to attack schools after urging people to learn English. We can take this to email if anyone is getting bored.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've probably smoked > 10 cigs in my life.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's more interesting than talking about cigarette brands!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

That's "more than," Jordan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

(Also, yeah, why would that be boring? Are you kidding me? A fucking federal raid?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I dunno. Anyway, all the teachers were buzzing about it in class last night. I tried to get as many details as I could but no one I knew was actually there, they heard from people who they work with who were there. The feds took their server too! Just picked it up and walked out with it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT?? What the hell are you suposed to do wtihout your SERVER?? Holy shit.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, RAVE from last night: the tamale guy. god bless you and your cheese tamales, tamale guy. you are one person i'm glad to always see at shows.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

1. This morning on the way to the el, someone in a new-looking charcoal-gray car waved to me at the corner of Damen and Leland. Car went by too fast for me to tell who it was. I hope I find out someday.

2. There's a guy down the hall who only speaks on the phone in foreign languages. I'm guessing he's some sort of international liaison. But I don't think I've ever heard him speak English in the office. His name is Dirk.

3. He has cheese tamales? I thought they were all meat-filled. Whenever he comes by, I'm almost never in the mood for a tamale, anyway -- which is a shame, because I love the business model.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

No one's name is Dirk.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

We have new corporate overlords who're FRENCH, and one of my colleagues passed my desk the other day, rattling away at our guests in le Francais. She's Canadian and I think maybe she went to a French-language school or spoke French at home or something? Very cool.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Your mom's name is Dirk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

You don't hear about the French taking over very many things.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Le Temps Warneur

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

The warneur times?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

CHILX: let's get the hell out of this sweaty city this summer and escape to the wilds of western michigan.

The UP is cheaper, wilder, and less crowded. Sayin'.

xp: The queso tamales are the best of the three. They have a slice of jalapeno in them too.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, no. Not TW anymore!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, right.

I've been rocking this Roisin Murphy album all morning. First time I've listened to music at work in months (partially in celebration of my working iPod, and partially 'cause there's another dude in my office now)!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Crazy Scandinavian Noize Jazz just posted to the blog

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Atomic? They gooooooood.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, not Atomic. But for anyone who cares, THEY GOOD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I will dl at home.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

i had a cheeseburger for breakfast. i couldn't get the ketchup open, though, dammit.

you have to have good music and headphones to tolerate sharing an office. yay for the resurrection of your ipod.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I had Flo for breakfast. Huevos rancheros. So awesome. A big cheese and onion enchilada with two fried eggs on top of it, red sauce, black beans, and flour tortillas. I waddled home.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

i had toothpaste and half a winston light 100.

i'm fucking starving over here.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmmm. I've been starving since 9:30, WTF.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, maybe we can send out a "call to action" type thing to Worker Justice, Inc., and see if they want to fire up a direct action campaign. They protested in front of the ICE office on Jackson and State after the nationwide raids a month or so ago, so this is certainly something that they do.

Let me know if you find out any details, and I'll write something up with your approval and we can start GETTING THE WORD OUT.

I am SO HUNGRY. I had toaster waffles and cottage cheese and fruit this morning, so I shouldn't be hungry. But I am so hungry I'm antsy.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going out for a cigarette, my first full one of the day. mmmmmm, addicition.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I believe my last meal might involve fried eggs. Possibly also chicken friend steak.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nicolamorgan.co.uk/images/Chicken2.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have any friends that are chickens, so I guess I'll have to pick one or the other.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I can leave to walk to meet my very tall friend Heath for lunch in exactly 12 minutes and I am VERY HAPPY about this. I won't be actually eating for at least a half hour, but at least I'll be walking towards eating soon.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

i would totally sever my left arm right now if it meant having a plate of perfect scrambled eggs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of eating... Big Bowl? Still happening? When?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

7:30. I might be a little late, but I'm not eating, just hanging.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I have ice cream at home and I WANT I WANT.

Also, I am trying to burn 10 gb of mp3s to dvdr before they come and take my computer for an upgrade. And I am tech STUPID.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie made ice cream the other day and MADE me eat some for breakfast while it was still good. :>

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

What a hard-ass.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Am I ever going to see Jesse before he leaves for the Big Easy?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

where is big bowl? i'm having second thoughts about this logan square bbq tonight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I am really not hungry anymore. A lot not hungry. I had the chili cheese burrito bowl.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'm going to stop at smoke daddy on the way home. and then go to a bbq. that doesn't seem right.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry I can't meet you guys for the big bowl/top-o-cock tonight. I assume I will see all of you for karaoke though?! I know it's a week away, but I'm already preparing.

OMG Smoke Daddy. Yum.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

So apparently all the crazily hot girls work in this office building (as opposed to the one I just moved from).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I will have to find somewhere in Cleveland to do karaoke.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

IMPORTANT QUESTION: Which Big Bowl are we meeting at? The one off of Rush or the one on Mag. Mile near Virgin?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants to go see Sunset Boulevard with me tomorrow at 11:30 am??

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

We just saw it a few weeks ago, unfortunately (for you). But it's great, you should totally go.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Renee reports that she was trying to lurk on this thread but (presumably because of the length) the JW-doctored "This one's for the ladies" photo of me took over the entire center of the screen and she couldn't scroll down. Haha.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

it was creepy seeing his face all over my computer screen.

― renen (renen), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

― renen (renen), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

GET A ROOM.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Been there, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

ick

― renen (renen), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, there's 2 hours left in my work week AND I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Welcome to ILX.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Renee! You're great.

Nick, whichever Big Bowl is closest to the Hancock Building. But somebody should text message me which one so I know where to go, that's for damn sure.

Sunset Blvd. is on of my favorite movies.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

hi jenny.
john---where is sunset blv playing?

― renen (renen), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Music Box.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

my sorry non-yiddish-knowing self was lent a book: yiddish with dick and jane. favorite word so far: "tsedoodlt". which i probably misspelled.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

OK OK OK - I say...BIG BOWL on MAG MILE across from VIRGIN MEGASTORE. Then we can just walk up Mag Mile to Hancock, and I'm pretty sure that's near Pete's hotel too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't there a Yiddish With Dick & Jane flash trailer floating around somewhere?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I just heard about a Yiddish book on NPR recently that sounded really interest.

Okay, BIG BOWL on the mag mile it is. As I mentioned, I might be a little late. But I might not. But I will be there, so save me a seat. But don't let those fuckers not seat you without a full party. I'll fucking sue.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, what can you tell me about this "Tynan" dude? Trolling regular?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

submitted for your consideration (TYNAN APPRECIATION THREAD)

I have this weird feeling that the "Tynan DeLong" who started the thread you got beat down on isn't the real Tynan, though -- or else he's become a total parody of himself. Come on, "no Phoenix, no credibility"? Then again, the login name is the same.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

yes but which ilxor has he had sex with?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Is the Mag Mile Big Bowl the one on Ohio?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's the Big Mile Mag Bowl.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

You shut up right now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, how was your show last night?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

You can stop shutting up long enough to answer my last question.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

::unzips lips::

It was pretty good, thanks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yes it is the Big Bowl at 60 E OHIO!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Weird, all of my favorite people will be within a square-mile of each other in a couple hours: Kr at Lalos (LaSalle and Illinois), me at Brazzaz (Dearborn and Grand), you guys at Big Bowl (Wabash and Ohio), and Renee at Max & Benny's (Fairbanks and Illinois). 500-600N represent!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

WHO ELSE FINDS THIS AS FASCINATING AS I DO?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad that you are one of your favorite people.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Self-esteem, yo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

I will miss you guys tonight. Have big fun without me, though.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yiddish w/ Dick & Jane trailer: vidlit.com, or at least it used to be. Hilarious. Please all watch it so that when I say "THAT'S what I want on my hamburger!" you'll know what I'm talking about -- I hate it when my inner monologue doens't translate to the outside world. Also, Julia, let me know if you like it well enough to keep a copy. I can probably do something about that.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, no. I will go out.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Other books about Yiddish that are cool: Words on Fire: The Unfinished History of Yiddish and Outwitting History.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I WANT MY BRACELET BACK.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

THAT'S what I want on my hamburger!

http://www.vidlit.com/yidlit/ is the precise link. it's not playing for me right now though. i never seem to have the right updated software, grr.

thanks, laurel, but i have a copy of the book living at my apartment for as long as i'm living with my roommate, so. there's probably more yiddish books around too, in between the books about war history, knitting, and BDSM. we've got variety.

i am starting to really dislike most fake meat (except for the stuff in the korean bbq from alice and friends). just put some good, fresh, well-seasoned veggies in with the dish, dammit. spongy approximate-beef kinda stuff can just go far too wrong.

have fun tonight!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

(I am employed by the publisher!)

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

cool!

another cool yiddish word: shlemiel.

i posted a recipe for impossible pie to the blog. wonder of wonders, a box was unpacked yesterday (i'm finally getting settled into my apartment!), and i found a very old recipe card that i'd always made sure to keep because impossible pie is important.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, what happened? I showed up at Big Bowl about 20 min. late, didn't see anyone there, and I hung around for a while and continued to see no-one. Then I went on a loooong walk. Stupid me not actually putting yer phone numbers into my phone... Also, stupid hostess not telling me the names of parties who were waiting. Oh well.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 10 June 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

STOOD UP

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 10 June 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

I stayed in tonight, obv.

Dan, you can read this review of the fucking ridiculous movie we just watched if you're looking for something to do. It has midget nazi zombies.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 10 June 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

Sadness!! You people stood each other up? You suck.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 10 June 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not pissed or anything, just feeling a little stupid for being late and unable to call.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

stander-uppers.

― gbx (skowly), Saturday, 10 June 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh that's terrible, Dan!

Evan, you know I love you.

Bachelor party was good times. I got insanely full on salad bar items -- risotto! tortellini! beets! olives! -- and then insanely drunk on pitchers of I-don't-even-know-what at Village Tap.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 10 June 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

OH MY GOD Dan! We had MANY conversations about "Where is Dan M? I can't believe he's a flat leaver. We need a tall dude in this party!" (OK the last one was me.) But me talked about your absence and were BUMMED you weren't there. Now I'm super bummed.

Just so you know what you missed: Kenan quote of the night, "I feel really sorry for Geddy Lee. He just sucks so bad."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 10 June 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't posted on one of these threads for a long time, but i wanted to see how nick and sarah and john and kenan and jeff and jenny etc were doing.... hope everyone is well. i miss chicago.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 10 June 2006 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, amst. I think we're ok. I mean, I guess.

I got Jesse home, but not without difficulty. He kept wanting to walk away the other direction down the street. Upside: he was very open to suggestion. It was like wrangling a puppy.

I wish I were gay. I got hit on at Clarks like, 3 times in ten minutes. I could have been so, so blown last night. One of the guys was even cute.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 10 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Dan! I don't know what happened! Did you go to the wrong Big Bowl? We were at the one on Ohio from 7:15ish to about 8ish, I think? Up on the elevated part in the back.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 10 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

ELEVATED PART IN TEH BACK?!?

I didn't see that! I thought the place looked kind of small. Oh well. Like I said I got there late... you were probably just finishing up. No worries.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 10 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Amateurist! I'm doing well -- generally speaking, I mean; right now I'm pretty hungover. Are you in M-d-s-n yet?

Another great name that came to me in a dream, to join the ranks of Henri Delacourt:

Poolio Toole.

I think it was somebody's baby.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 10 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

the shitty weather continues unabated here in Montana. thanks, weather, for sucking only on the weekends. cock-tease.

― gbx (skowly), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I were gay. I got hit on at Clarks like, 3 times in ten minutes. I could have been so, so blown last night. One of the guys was even cute.

The catch is that if you were gay you wouldn't be hit on nearly as much. An undisputible fact: gay guys LOVE straight boys. Put a cute gay boy and an average-looking straight guy side by side and let a gay dude loose on them and I guarantee you that 9 times out of 10 the straight guy gets the attention. It's just how it works. Eminem is a regular player in gay guys' fantasies.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Well, at least I can always depend on one segment of the population to find me attractive.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Saturday, 10 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I realized that it might sound like I was suggesting that the only reason you got hit on was that you were straight, not because you're delightful in other ways.

The gay taste for straight guys is often credited to the forbidden fruit factor, but I think that's only a small part of it. Straight guys are just hotter.

Recent experience: a bartender at work hits on me a lot (too old and not attractive) by saying "Jesse, let's make out--we're both lonely and desperate, so let's just do it." (Despite the seductive appeal of his come-ons, I resist) The other day he sees me touching a straight co-worker and gets snotty, saying, "Typical fucking faggot--going after the straight guy while there is another faggot who is all over you."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 10 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hi from Toronto. No making out, alas, but crisp air and plenty of culture and novelties. The other night I watched a late-night Sopranos episode, and it was followed by a 15-minute analysis of the episode by a psychology professor from the University of Alberta - that's my kind of entertainment.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Eric, see you tomorrow!

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 10 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

! See you then!

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 10 June 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

New Orleans Weather

Currently (1:55 AM) 80 degrees
Tomorrow 95 degrees "Real Feel" 105 degrees
Rest of the week-- 95 and you know it's a wet heat.
GROOOOOOSSSSSSSSSS Good conditions for the growth of toxic molds.

In related news, did you know that Accuweather publishes an "Arthiritis Index"? It indicates how the weather will affect arthritis sufferers.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 11 June 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting you chafing lotion as a going away gift.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 11 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe one of those little visors with a fan in it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/dress-up/acc/hats/fun/umbrella-hat-big.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

They should make anyone going to NO get all kinds of vaccinations against tropical diseases. Like when you go to the Congo or something.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh chicago. oh, oh chicago. it just keeps getting better.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

So I mentioned this on another thread, but yesterday Kr and I went to First Slice, a really awesome cafe that's connected with the Lill Street Art Center at Montrose/Ravenswood. (I thought the Lill Street Art Center was actually on, you know, Lill Street, in Lincoln Park -- but maybe they moved and just kept the name. Kinda like the Old Town School being in Lincoln Square. Anyway.)

So I'm eating a slice of quiche and salad, and Kr has this amazing goat cheese and pear sandwich, and we both glance over at the table closest to the register. I should note that there's probably only about 8 tables in the cafe, maybe about ten people there overall. We glance back at each other quickly. I don't want to say what I'm thinking, so I say "We'll talk later." A few minutes go by, and we're still glancing over periodically, at the man who's sitting at the table, accompanied by a blonde woman. At some point, I lean into her and say "It's not him." She says, "Really? I don't know..." The man gets his food and looks up at the counter and says, "This is really good!" I turn back to Kr and say "Okay, it's him."

Later, a guy affiliated with Lill Street comes over and asks him what he's in the market for. So I guess he'd come up to buy some art. But what was he doing in Chicago in the first place? And why was he eating at a tiny cafe six blocks from my apartment??

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

C4N4ST4 AT RIBFEST IN APPROX 1 HOUR

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 11 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

When am I supposed to sleep? There's no time -- NO TIME. And I'm so not making it to the office today.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, duh, it's SUNDAY.

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have shitloads of work to do, though. I'm going to go with the theory that I shd make the most of my leisure time now so I'm prepared to reapply myself on Mon. The hardest part of which will be...applying myself on Mon.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

haha The man gets his food and looks up at the counter and says, "This quiche is making me thirsty!"

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I bought a tanning package--5 sessions for $15.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 11 June 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

I bought a tips and links bbq combo and now I am teh FAT

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

i just woke up.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. Dusk or night?

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/hancock_dusk.jpg

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/hancock_night.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Or west?

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/hancock_west.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

I was there. I miss you all.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hotel Paral.lel is awesome.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

A band or a hotel on Barcelona? (I had to Google it.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

An album by Fennesz.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

For you: Fake Fictions music video for "Do the Dance":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUjCYzvrJwg

I'm not sure why the sound is so terrible, it's the cd version. Might need to reload it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are awesome.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan: Dusk. Could you post a full-size version so I can use it as a desktop mebbe?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I bought a tanning package--5 sessions for $15.

Are you joking? If not, I am curious as to how you justified this to yourself.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/hancock_dusk_large.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

FFs: great video, and now that song will be stuck in my head!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan:

YAY! Thanks.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

That's an awesome video. Also, very very silly. I think the two things are related.

I like how the foot-tapping sequence is almost a tribute to the opening titles of "Footloose."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

You'll notice that on the "how camp is your iPod thread," when the FF's came up, you got a solid 6.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

That FFs video rules and is now the first YouTube video to actually play on my computer with the audio and video in sync! Hurrah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, FF's. That video is adorable

I bought a tanning package--5 sessions for $15.

Jesse, you're going to New Orleans, and you bought a TANNING PACKAGE???

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

I am exhausted, I should go to bed right now. We played a street festival in Milwaukee and sunlight + drinking always knocks me out. I also had ribs!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

"I bought a tanning package--5 sessions for $15.

Are you joking? If not, I am curious as to how you justified this to yourself. "

I don't understand. $15 is cheap as hell. Customary tanning prices are Around $5-$9 per session. This package includes 2-10 min. sessions in the "medium" machines, 1-10 min. in the "med-high" machine, 1-10 min. in the "high" and 1-6 min in the "VHR Stand-up," which is something I've always wanted to do.

Jordan, if you think I'm going to be setting foot outside of doors in nasty gross sticky New Orleans in the summer except to get to and from climate controlled places and to do the good work of worker justice, you are MISTAKEN. It's not like it's a beach area or there are places to go lay out.

My tan is a mess and a half after last weekend's 6 Flags adventure, despite using sunscreen. I am the poster boy for uneven farmer's tan, and I'm fat as hell, so I doubly need the color.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

I met the group of interns whom I will be supervising. They are strikingly sincere, passionate, and motivated. It is unnerving because I have always surrounded myself with people who are indifferent, saturated with irony, and who readily acknowledge having been defeated by life almost as a badge of honor.

One young woman responded to the question "How does your faith affect your interest in worker justice?" responded that as a Catholic she followed the teaching of Jesus who supported the underdog, and that she wished to take on the role of Jesus for everyone she met. Somehow, miraculously, this managed to not be completely an obnoxious answer.

Also, the Jesuit and the Muslim are cute.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

It's not about the price, it's about the why bother. Your tan is "a mess"? Are you seriously worried about that? Do you really wake up in the morning and feel that concern?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Not that you should be concerned about something more lofty - that's not what I mean although that's what it sounds like. It's more like, holy shit, give yourself a break. Big fucking whoop, farmer's tan. You're going to fucking NO to supervise religious wingnuts as they help low-wage and immigrant workers. Do you think anybody is going to judge you because of a farmer's tan (that I myself haven't ever even noticed)? Are you planning on spending a lot of time without a shirt on? You've alread said you're fat and there's nowhere to lay out... you just going to go all fat and shirtless around the office or what?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, The dusk from the Hancock photo is wonderful. It is now my desktop pic.

I loved the Signature Lounge and plan to bring lots of other people there.

Can we go ahead and pick a time for kareoke for Saturday? I know it's early, but I want to invite my hairdresser.

I miss you already, Jesse. :-(

Hi, Jonah!! Everything is well. In case you didn't see earlier, Nick and I are engaged. Also, it's beautiful here.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

How about 8:30? We get there early enough and we can practice before the bozos get there.

Is your hairdresser the same as mine, Hairdresser to Top Models of Chicago? Miz Leanne?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have only been to her twice, because I am a cheap non-cutter of hair but I like her. She probably doesn't remember me since I have only been to her twice.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

My desktop bg:

http://cayetanoferrer.com/city_of_chicago/images/images/image04.jpg

That's a photo, printed on an inkjet, pasted on a sign, and photographed.

I met this guy last night, and liked his stuff.

http://cayetanoferrer.com/home.htm

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

PS Good morning errbody.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, L3anne.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost He's selling everything he owns. That's his new project. When I went downstairs, he had all his records and books laid out on the floor in some weird pattern. I offered him near retail for a nice copy of "Hopscotch," but he turned me down flat, because it's art, man. Apparently, him selling his stuff is not about the money. I never did quite absorb his explanation for this.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

I woke up bleeding. There's a small wound on my thumb, just enough to have bled in several places on my pillow and sheets. I'm baffled to how or when this happened. Doubly baffed because I can safely say I was STONE COLD SOBER when this happened.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Dry skin?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

There is something very disarming about waking up with blood on the bedclothes.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

That causes chafing, but usually not outright cuts.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

There is something very disarming about waking up with blood on the bedclothes.

I know. Shades of The Godfather.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

But if it's dry enough, sometimes skin just splits. It cracks. It's not really the season for that, but who knows? Either that or your cat is trying to eat you slowly.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe your thumb is getting its period.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Your thumb is finally a woman.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Two gold hoop earrings on a 25 yo white male clerking at a law firm: C or D?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

You don't understand. There's a gash, and a little flap of skin. Sorry to be graphic, but there's no doubt -- it's been harmed in some external way.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe your kitty had something to do with it?

I invited L3anne.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan -- have you heard Triosk and/or Jan Jelinek? I'm listening to this record and thinking of you. Because, you know, you're the jazz guy. Not that this is really entirely jazz. But it's fine, fine stuff.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Two gold earrings and a black shirt with a hot pink tie: C or D?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost You gotta love it when a record is excellent, and has no AMG review. At least, I love that.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I vote G for GROSS.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

It's not about the price, it's about the why bother... et cetera--

Be nice! I'm doing it for me. I know that sounds like a girl thing, but it's true. I mean I might wind up at a pool or naked on a pool table at LaFitte in Exile (I've seen it happen), but really it's about having to look at my light colored flab, and the fact that I enjoy the tanning sessions.

Also, as Morrissey said, I tan because I want to die of skin cancer and I need somewhere to lie down.

Gold hoops--DDDDDDDDDDD

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I vote F for Fag.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Two gold earrings and a black shirt with a hot pink tie: C or D?

Actually, I can see this working if you're a member of Scissor Sisters.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I vote F for Fag.

I vote "U" for U Suck.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Be nice! I'm doing it for me.

Doing what for you? Making yourself a shade darker? It's not like you're Irish.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Also -- a farmer tan is a sign of an active, normal person who does not care so much about his/her appearance that he/she feels the need to artificially tan on top of that. It's a good thing.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

a sign of an active, normal person

An active, normal person who wears clothes, I should add. The constantly naked are not good partners.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I really need a band aid.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Don't talk to me about not wearing clothes; the weekend is over and I have to get LOTS of work done today.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also: :) :) :)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

See Seinfeld, Episode 115 "The Apology," December 11, 1997.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/musicimages/band_aid_peter_blake_cover_do_they_know_its_christmas.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw Leanne on Saturday, btw. She'd be fun to do karaoke with, I bet!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Also: :) :) :)

!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Also, to Laurel, congratulations!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, lady laurel --congrats! although no deets for the discreet.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

xp woohoo laurel!

I vote F for Fag.

give the stereotypical fag more credit for having some fashion sense. i'd second amanda on the G for gross.

i had a dream about shaving last night. also, one about living on another planet for a little while and worrying about the decor of the place i was staying.

(don't think i posted last night so i will belatedly add to the chorus of AWESOME VIDEO!)

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

My brother e-mailed me about this book. Holy Christ, I'm 'bout it 'bout it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

No deets. People who live in New York know how to use the internet too, y'know.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is it on Gawker?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. Um.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

John there was an article in the Sunday trib about how Nevaeh is a super popular name allasudden because it's "heaven" backwards and people are so damn dumb as hell.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if it was the same article that was in the NYT a couple weeks ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

"CHILX baby names" next most popular: Lleh. Prounced like "Leah" or something. We'll worry about pronunciation when we come to it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, why doesn't one of you married people start having babies, already, so we can name them things.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe. It was in the "Q" section, I think, which is their super dumbed down feature-y section that is slightly more challenging than, say, Parade. I don't recall if it was attributed to another paper or what.

I always save that section for last, thinking that I'll read something really light and entertaining and then just end up annoyed with all humans instead.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/18/us/18heaven.html?ex=1305604800&en=0606bfab6929a5f0&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN-- Did you read.....[delete]

Dammit Jenny--JINX.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/q/chi-0606110417jun11,1,5940789.story

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

And Jenny's right--it makes you dislike people to know that there are folks out there engaging in this idiocy.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

No babies here until mama has a law degree and a job.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

HEY CHICAGO,
YOU GUYS RULE. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!
LOVE,
PETE

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

This womb is not available for private parties at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Pete! It was good to meet you. (And thanks for talking to my mom, haha.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Doing what for you? Making yourself a shade darker? It's not like you're Irish.

It's like how a lot of women get their eyebrows done--no-one ever really notices the difference, but it gives a new outlook on your day. Also cf wearing colored socks or sexy underwear.

Anyway, it amounts to the fact that I enjoy getting darker.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Pete is fun. I like Pete.

Also, this is very annoying from the Trib article:

"[I]t literally came out of nowhere to be in the top 100 names," said Laura Wattenberg
. . .
The name may have been born in evangelical Christian circles and then moved mainstream in 2000, when Christian rocker Sonny Sandoval of P.O.D. introduced America to his baby daughter, Nevaeh. . .

So... not literally out of nowhere at all, eh?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

LITERALLY!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Bad choice:

When your bowels are already in super overdrive because of nerves, it is probably a bad idea to breakfast on spicy ramen. But it's all I have in the house and it was delicious.

I ate breakfast at 7 am, went back to sleep for a while, during which time I had a dream that I was in Europe using a weird pay toilet that I overfilled, and other details that no one wants to know about.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

That use makes me want to literally poke my eyes out with a sharp red pencil. XP

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I hate toilet dreams. I have them like twice a month. Always the same basic set up - I have to pee and either all the toilets are filled to the rim with water or pee or poop or some combination or the only available toilet is in the middle of a crowded room. So stressful.

But I guess it's good they are stressful or else I'd pee the bed a lot more often.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I know, Laurel. After an earthquake you will hear OVER AND OVER AND OVER: "The bridge literally collapsed" (emphasis not mine) Yes, that's true, it did not figuratively collapse, as from surprise or ennui--no, it actually fell down.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

That use makes me want to literally poke my eyes out with a sharp red pencil.

Well! You would LOVE what I am reading now, wherein the writer has peppered all of his correspondence with "but not limited to" in the most inappropriate ways you can imagine. Such as "In my letter dated November 11, but not limited to, I explained to you that I was not satisfied with your decision," or "In my meeting with Dr. Bronner, but not limited to, he examined my fallen arches and released me from all work restrictions, but not limited to, and wrote me a letter."

Those aren't literal transcriptions but I'm really not exaggerating here.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

What the hell is the document?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Also: :) :) :)

wasn't eazy in nyc this weekend?

just sayin'...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Also hate gratuitous/wrong use of "per se."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Also cf wearing colored socks or sexy underwear.

Try that first.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

TOTALLY UNRELATED!!

I am pissed off at all my relatives. Wanna hear bout it? Here it go.

When I told my Dad I was engaged, he said he would call his brothers to spread the word. I know at least one brother found out, because his wife, my aunt, mentioned it briefly at the end of a mass email (oh, yes, and congrats to Sarah..). Anyway, my sister went on a family trip with all of them this past weekend. The big buzz was about my cousin, a guy, who is proposing tonight to his girlfriend. They've been together less than a year. She's still in college. He's at least 11 years older than she is. Everyone was talking about how if anyone is together for over a year without getting married, they are obviously sinners. Also, they put alot of pressure on one of my female cousins who is still in college, telling her basically if she doens't find a good Christian man toute suite she'll be SOL. Graduation is her deadline. Good luck!

Anyway, my sister brings up my engagement and:
a) they say they didn't know about it, but also obviously don't care
b) say they can't come because that's my cousin's birthday
c) go back to raving about this cousin's pending engagement

THE END

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Damnit otto you literally beat me to it!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Well, off to God Camp (credit to Jenny for this term). I DON'T WANNA SING NO MORE!!

Kenan, we'll argue more about my skin color later.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah: JERKSTORE!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so happy for this cousin because pretty soon he was about to become a REAL LIFE 40 year old virgin.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??? AARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, y'all. I just spent an exciting morning at the courthouse after forgetting that I was supposed to serve jury duty today. Showed up over an hour late, but my number didn't come up and the clerk was nice enough to mark me as qualified (i.e. I showed up and don't have to serve for the next four years).

The security guard chastised me for tugging on my white linen shirt, because it's supposed to be wrinkly (I think?).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, that sucks. Don't worry, you're not alone. If I still spoke to any of my family, I would get the same thing. Man-woman, traditional union, making babies right away, only thing that counts. They all think I'm nuts because I live in a city. They all think my mother is nuts because she moved to Houston. That kind of thing.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

total jerkstore

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

The security guard chastised me for tugging on my white linen shirt, because it's supposed to be wrinkly (I think?).

I dunno. It's supposed to be laundered. It's not supposed to look like you picked it up off the floor.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, perspective time:

Do you want these people at your wedding? NO YOU DO NOT. So if they have some cousin's birthday to attend in lieu of a celebration of the union of one the sweetest couples I have ever seen in my life, then fuck 'em. Now you can invite more people that you like.

What the hell is the document?

A series of letters to a union and an employer.

Can I brag for a little minute? I got three As in law school this semester.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

WOOOOHOOOO Jenny! Congrats, Smarty Jones.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

KEVIN: you, at least, know better and ought not to start trouble.
Sarah: elope while there's still time!!! I oughtta know, I have to be at one of these things in about three weeks.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

So if they have some cousin's birthday to attend in lieu of a celebration of the union of one the sweetest couples I have ever seen in my life, then fuck 'em.

That's really sweet, but of course you know that having your family reject you stings no matter whether you actually want them around you or not.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

(I talk about this a lot in therapy.)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

So... Kenan, should I not say something sweet then? What's your point?

I also got totally robbed with a B in trial ad and was sort of surprised by a C+ in Wills and Trusts, so I'm not like Sandra Day O'Connor here, but I'm more or less okay with it. The B in trial ad puzzles and upsets me, though. I might never get over it.

Never.

LITERALLY.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Almost done with school for the year! I just printed of a seminar paper and my master's thesis (which I finished a while a go, but I've been pokey about filing) today. Now, I'll just have to devote some time to grading the art history final I'm about to go and help administer. But that's the fun part...or at least less pressure than paper writing.

Then...I need to start read, read, reading in preparation for comprehensive exams...

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have 18 more hours of grad school left and then I WILL HAVE MASTERY.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, ROBOTS!

WOO HOO, JENNY!

I don't know. I guess I feel a mixture of anger and sadness because I never really did anything TO these people, ie: my relatives, to make them dislike me so much. I've tried really hard to be polite to them for my Dad's sake. Deep down, I really love them. I try to forgive them for being total nutsos in the cabeza when it comes to their fracked up belief system (like my other cousin's wedding in which they told the story of Eve and how women are evil and only there to help men in their spritual paths), but they can't just agree to disagree with me.

That side of the family is the only one left. My mom doesn't really have one any more. But in the end, I do enjoy being around my immediate family alot, so I should just enjoy them as my JOHNSON famille representin'.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

KEVIN: you, at least, know better and ought not to start trouble.

i literally did not think anyone would take me literally. not that i'm surprised, per se, but i literally did not think it would happen.

good luck with that thing, you know i'm rooting for you.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, I saw H.C. is opening for Art Brut! (ok, so nick told me)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

So... Kenan, should I not say something sweet then? What's your point?

Of course you should say sweet and encouraging things, but also know that they will likely fall on deaf ears as far as family is concerned.

But I tend to drag my own feelings into such discussions, as BOTH sides of my extended family are NUTJOB FRUITCAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

wayback xpost to Kenan: Yes familial rejection stings. But I'm not trying to heal anyone, just pointing out a benefit of, but not limited to, familiar rejection.

My own mother promised and then completely renegged on a family wedding party for Jeff and me (after we bought tickets to fly to Delaware for this party, of course), and I have yet to receive well-wishes, much less cards, from the vast majority of my family. Or Jeff's family. But then again, I have been cultivating this sort of response since I was approximately 14 so I'm just reaping what I've so carefully sown. So, yes, concededly, my view of the situation is likely very different from Sarah's, as is proven on preview by her comment.

Sarah, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be flip. Families are hard.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Deep down, I really love them. I try to forgive them for being total nutsos in the cabeza when it comes to their fracked up belief system

See, I gave that up a long time ago. Their belief system tells them they should not associate with me in any way, family or not. Why should I try to understand them?

Oh, this is getting too heavy. I'm going to buy some chocolate milk.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

massive xp

sarah, your extended family is insane. that really sucks.

jesse, farmer's tans are sexxy. i used to have one every summer. now i just revel in my pasty splendor instead.

oh yes, jenny, you'll be overcome with sorrow at regular intervals for years to come. it will interfere with your lawyering so much that you will have to take time off. then you will be able to sue your trial ad prof because of the disabling trauma that the B has caused you.

also, congrats on the As.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, THEN will you be chatty again? I miss your goss.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, I saw H.C. is opening for Art Brut! (ok, so nick told me)

yeah, there's another biggish chicago act that has yet to confirm that show. H.C. is also playing a week from tomorrow opening for bbq and demon's claws. it's a school night so i probably won't stay for all of demon's claws but bbq is unbelievable.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

oh yes, jenny, you'll be overcome with sorrow at regular intervals for years to come.

In all honesty I care way more right now than I have ever cared about a grade in my life so who knows! It might cause disabling emotional trauma! I'm in uncharted territory here.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny: good job with all the law school As

― renen (renen), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel -- YES INDEEDY. I even have an exit plan which I am not going to talk about on the internet.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Exit plan?!?! That sounds intriguiging.

Thanks, for the congrats, ya'll!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, if you get PTSD, i know some good psychiatrists, because my parents thought i was crazy and found the best in chicago. luckily for me, the best in chicago disagreed with them, yay.

(but really, those As rock)

dealing with family is an interesting adventure which makes you want to beat your head against a wall.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say something about what Otto brought up, but I bit my tongue. Literally. Ow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say something about what Otto brought up, but I bit my tongue. Literally. Ow.

was it about how awesome bbq is? because even when he's not at his best he's still great.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

You know what I mean.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

i want a sandwich now.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

mmm... chocolate milk.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to Petra Cafe on Franklin for lunch. I can't decide what to get. Greek salad w/ chicken is always good. But maybe a chicekn shawerma entree is where my heart lies.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, no need to apologize. You're right! They would be total party buzz kills anyway. I sent out a mass email to them this morning officially announcing my engagement, along with a pretty photo of us. I'm being Nicey McNiceypants, so they can't say they weren't informed and welcomed. Of course, I'm basically doing something horrible to myself, because they'll probably either respond negatively (ie: send me an email about Jesus) or not at all, but at least I can try to be the good guy... or something.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I haven't heard that Triosk record (or anything by them or Jelinek), but it sounds like it might be up my alley.

Jaymc, I don't suppose you remember the name of that Danish band that did the DJ Shadow cover?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Good God y'all. I step away for a few minutes and look at all this!

I am now feeling extraordinarily lucky to have the family I do. I really don't want to seem like I'm gloating 'cause I'm not. We've had our share of troubles too. Hell, compared to those I grew up with it's kind of amazing my parents are still married.

I want another banana. The one I just ate was gooooooood.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ribfest yesterday was really fun, btw. We played for about an hour and got free beer -- there was a keg behind the stage -- and 10 food tickets, which I used on a veggie burger and a plate of macaroni and cheese. Actually, the mac and cheese was kinda gross, but oh well.

Also: I got a new cellphone! Exciting.

---

Jordan: it's Lefties Soul Connection. And I think they're Dutch, actually.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, it's hard to take the high road, but it's my personal belief that doing so will always work out for you in the end. It would be hard for me not to respond to any Jesus emails with an invitation to going and fucking oneself, however.

You are definitely the good guy. Despite your mortal sin in the eyes of our Lord and Savior Jesus.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

My immediate family and maternal aunt and grandparents are just grand. The rest of them are more tiresome than hateful.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, John.

I'm farmer-tanned from playing out in the sun yesterday. Jesse, good luck on finding those climate-controlled environments in New Orleans (and when you do, tell me where they are). I think the only air conditioning I felt in April was at the movie theater in Metairie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

highlight of my weekend: the camel guy was at sub-t saturday night giving out free smokes. they used to dole out two packs but now they only give out one, bummer. but i did enlist my non-smoking friends to help me out and i walked out of there with 8, count 'em, EIGHT packs of free cigarettes. that was awesome. then i smoked two of those 8 in the next 6 hours.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Well, as you might remember from things I've said in the past, the relatives already decided that I'll be going to hell since my parents got divorced. I'm damned anyway, might as well live it up.

In other news, I got a farmer's tan Saturday too.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have no farmer's tan because I am a SUN SCREEN freak. I put it on every day.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I feel the same way, Dan. There are some weird intra-family feuds that I'm not really privy to (a couple of my dad's brothers didn't talk for like five years in the early 90s), and some of my mom's family probably leans a bit more conservative than I'm comfortable with (although that doesn't include my gay new-agey cousin who lives in Hollywood) -- but none of that has affected my relationship with any of them. I'd be surprised if anyone had strong opinions about me or my life.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

I usually am too, because I've been burned SO MANY TIMES and it's pretty dumb of me not to schmear it on. So, yes, I was dumb Saturday, but I did have a lovely day at the Lincoln Park zoo.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

OMG you guys -- "Mother" by Danzig just came up on Other People's iTunes shuffle!

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Let me add my voice to the SARAH YOU'RE FAMILY IS NUTS sympathy.

We played at our trumpet player's wedding reception on Saturday, it was a good time. The actual wedding was six months ago, so it was completely casual. The only speech that was given included the words "...and then K**** got herself knocked up, so here we are."

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Lincoln Park Zoo. It's not even that great a zoo, as those things go, but it's such a nice place to be.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

The only speech that was given included the words "...and then K**** got herself knocked up, so here we are."

Oh, that's classy.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

That's a perfect assessment of the zoo, Kenan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you. :)

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Lincoln Park Zoo = Central Park Zoo

I swear, it's the same zoo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

THIS PLACE IS A ZOO!

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't LPZ where they send animals to die?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Don't tell the baby gorillas that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't LPZ where they send animals to die?

Given the state of the penguins, I wouldn't doubt it.

"Zoo" is such a weird word. It sounds nothing like what it is. It sounds like it should be an archaic clothing accessory, or maybe an annoying musical instrument. No, wait, that's a kazoo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

zoo = shortened "zoological park", no?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, my junior high obsession with flamingos was spawned by LPZ.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

zoo = shortened "zoological park", no?

You are correct, ma'am.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

(I edited an article about zoos the other week.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

zoo = shortened "zoological park", no?

"Zoological" is even funnier.

If you want to see happy penguins, it costs $20 at the aquarium, BTW.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, my junior high obsession with flamingos was spawned by LPZ.

weird, mine was spawned by liberace.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

lol

Jordan, I an uploading the Triosk album now. Estimated time remaining: 49:46 min.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's at 256kbps, so it's a really big 40 minute record.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Computer question: Does anyone know what software I need to have in order to unzip/unpack/use something that was sent to me in a .rar file?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Winzip? I dunno.

I did think of you yesterday, Amanda, because Nordstrom's is having Clinique bonus days. And I remember what my real issue with bonus days is - it's not that it leads me to buy things I don't need (I can always use more of something, I'm sure), it's that I already have a bazillion little lip glosses and black mascaras and sample tubes of foaming facial cleanser and turn around cream. And good Christ do I ever have a sufficient number of free GWP cosmetic bags. So I get all excited to get a FREE BONUS GIFT WITH PURCHASE and it turns out to be a free gift I neither need or want, and in some cases, actively DON'T want.

Bonus days are so bittersweet, I tell you.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I love the free lipstick and mascara! That's totally my favorite part! If you don't want it, give it to me. I'll trade you for something.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

winrar.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

is there a place to download it for free? any suggestions?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Computer question: Does anyone know what software I need to have in order to unzip/unpack/use something that was sent to me in a .rar file?

http://www.rarlab.com/

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Thankee.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Use Limewire to dl the free version. Maybe you can't do it at work, but that's what I did.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

WINRAR

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

You're late.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Estimated time remaining: 49:46 min.

SWEET.

Amanda, download WinRAR.

many xposts

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

there it is. i should have looked it up myself. winrar is a good thing to have...i don't think i have winzip anymore, because winrar does both.

xp obv

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

free winrar dl here:

http://www.download.com/3000-2250-10007677.html

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

you people post so gd much is the problem

― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

You can curse here. It's ok.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm making my triptych into a polyptych:

http://www.harmoniummusic.com/images/feist-letitdie.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bean95/cd/images/23323f.jpg http://www.smartpunk.com/product_images/5362.gif http://playloudershop.static3.state51.co.uk/27/56/4420054_HYqd/200x200-mod-sq.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah--cousin's birthday trumps sister's wedding? WTF?

General population-

Comment: I enjoy changing the color of my skin and it's cheaper than wearing sexy underwear, which is something I would not feel good about anyway, because "sexy" men's underwear is GRRRROSS, and there's nothing sexier on a man than boxer briefs anyway, so I'm all good. And I like the way my skin feels after tanning. I'm a sun-worshipper who hates the actual sun. Last summer I tried laying out on the beach twice and discovered that it sucked. I like the UV but not all the dirty nature and people that go with it--it's a lidded, private, artificially lit bed for me.

Question: What documents do I need to take to NO with me-- My doctor told me to get a copy of my medical records. Do you think I should take my birth certificate and passport?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan: I gmailed you a notification of my having ysi'ed you that record. Subject line: "that triosk record."

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) I thought you were already there...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Follow up re "dirty nature"--I'm not the kind of fag who's too prissy to get out in nature--I have been camping and enjoyed it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

When I return to GC I'm going to ask that we have a group session praying for my ass to stop exploding--really if the Lord cares about His flock, He will realize that it's best for everyone.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, like it or not, you're coming back from NO with a nice bronze farmer tan.

WTF am I doing fucking with Ally this morning? Do I never learn?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

any of you flatlanders going to the Brandeis Book Sale?

― gear (gear), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

JESSSE WHERE ARE YOU? WHAT IS GC?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

any of you flatlanders going to the Brandeis Book Sale?
Already went on opening night. It was awesome.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

How long does it go for? I hadn't heard about it until I read the article you posted on ILB, gear.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

my mom is going with a list of books that i want, then she's bringing them out with her when she visits in a couple of weeks (assuming she can find them!)

i think it goes a couple more days. xpost

― gear (gear), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, stop poking the bear.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think it runs through this upcoming weekend. I have gone every year since we have lived here and stocked up on books for the year. This is purportedly the last one. ALSO I mentioned it on this very thread last week but no one noticed, I don't think.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-books23.html

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I READ I LOVE BOOKS TOO

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I don't read I love books. I am on the mailing list for the book sale, you boob.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

He's referencing JW. Or maybe making fun of him. I don't even know any more.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://ilx.p3r.net/searchresults.php?board=86&mode=threads&q=%22boing+boing+too%22&titlepart=&name=&email=&username=&dateafter=&datebefore=&catid=all
http://ilx.p3r.net/searchresults.php?board=1&mode=threads&q=%22boing+boing+too%22&titlepart=&name=&email=&username=&dateafter=&datebefore=&catid=all

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

BOOB!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

i should have brought a book to the final exam!

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Which is the Ally-baiting thread?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I was just clarifying that I do not need to read ILB in order to be aware of the Brandeis book sale. Not that it matters. I scored pretty huge at the sale and am happy with having spent $5 to get in on opening night. We were there for 5.5 hours (1.5 of which we were waiting in line to get in) and it felt like about 10 minutes once we got inside. Good times at the book sale.

In other news, this is currently going through my head: Boing boing boing goes the boobie, clang clang clang goes the bell.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yes yes inquiring minds want to know. xpost

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ally-baiting = WDYLL

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that anyone's ever outright SMACKED my dick, but there's definitely been boing-boing time.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), June 30th, 2005.

What the hell am I doing on the Internet?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I heard a story on 848 this morning about the 40th anniversary of the Division St. Riots. I thought if any of you were unaware of this (as I was) you might find it interesting since a number of us live in or near the area today.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

xpost ROFFLE x5

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

if i posted on the excelsior thread, etc.

i just had a really good burrito and all is right with the world.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, the Jesus Lizard. Kenan, thanks for posting about that mix for N/S -- that jumpstarted me into listening to their records again.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Any time you need an early 90's hardcore jumpstart, I'm there for you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

keep poking the bear, kenan!

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

heh It's fun, isn't it?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, my sisters are both coming to my wedding. I meant that none of my extended relatives are. Cousin's birthday = no one can come to Sarah's wedding. Well, we'll see.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

keep poking the bear, kenan!

is that what the kids are calling it these days?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

OH MY FUCKING GOD NEGATIVE APPROACH AT THE HIDEOUT OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMJG:O HJ:OWHJ"O:W E:#P$IOJ T"@$POIJ

http://www.tgrec.com/links/tg25/

I think I just shit my pants.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

kids are poking the bear all across america... !

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/chris2.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

my future stretches out before me and it's a vast horizon of bear poking i'm afraid.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

NEW DESKTOP WALLPAPER!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

You want me to send you the large version?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, this one doesn't have the full impact.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

still waiting, still stuck with a tiny centered wallpaper...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone mind if I invite Sh@rks to karaoke too (Evan/GBX's old band)? They are nice people, and the singer's twin sister does competitive karaoke (though she won't be there).

Though if there are concerns about it being too many people, then I won't.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK YOU! NEVER! I'D RATHER EAT GLASS!

Oh, ok.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not concerned, but I hope no one expects a skilled performance out of me. I am going to kill your ears but I will do it with heart.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

are you gonna sing "magic man" or "what about love"?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

BARRACUDA

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, i'm there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Holy... yes. Pen me in.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Competitive karaoke? That's kind of awesome.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

It would be a relief to be out in the first round.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I probably have a roomy cosmetic tote's worth of GWP Clinique that I have never and will never use. I'll bring it to karaoke for you next weekend, Amanda.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

From Indiebride:

Hey fellow Chicagoans - I've heard some things lately about Taste of Heaven in Andersonville that I thought I should mention here.

My office assistant recently applied for and was hired for a part time job at Taste of Heaven. She spent a day in training there and her trainer had nothing but good things to say about her. At the end of her shift, Dan the owner came over to her and told her to get out and not come back. He refused to say what (if anything) she had done wrong. He was verbally abusive to her. And then he refused to pay her the $30+ she was owed for the time she worked that day. As she was leaving, her trainer told her she had done a great job and that Dan frequently fires people with no warning and for no reason. My assistant came to the office crying that day and still doesn't know why she was asked not to come back.

I'm not bringing this up to make anyone feel bad about their choices and I'm sorry if that happens. But since this is a vendor thread, I thought it would be good information to have when making decisions. I'll butt out now. Thanks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Restaurant owner in random spazzout shocka

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry, I was googling "F4ke F1ct1ons.")

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dan -- the exact same thing happened to Kenan when he worked there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Kenan kicked him in the shins. Guy sounds like a schizophrenic.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

All I'm saying is, you'd have to be crazy to be a restaurant owner (as I've said in the past) so that kind of thing really doesn't surprise me.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I probably have a roomy cosmetic tote's worth of GWP Clinique that I have never and will never use. I'll bring it to karaoke for you next weekend, Amanda.
OMG REALLY? That's super super cool! Thanks! I love free makeup.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan told us all about TofH when we first moved here and we have yet to patronize it out of solidarity. Seriously. I've more than once thought about going in there and thought, "No, that's the psycho freaking boot licking nazi pimp that fired Kenan" and then I walk on.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - you bet Amander. I'll pack it up when I go home. Although, to be honest, I think all of the roomy cosmetic totes are in use in one way or another, so I'll have to put the stuff in a ziploc instead.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

What shall I bring you in return? I don't care about the totes, but if you need to unload some I can always use them. Expect a surprise Miss Jenny.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

You needn't bring me anything. You're doing me a favor by making more room in my costmetics case.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse has his tanning bed, I have makeup. Everyone needs a coat of armor. Whee.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I have t-shirts with grease stains on them. Damnit.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

At the end of her shift, Dan the owner came over to her and told her to get out and not come back. He refused to say what (if anything) she had done wrong. He was verbally abusive to her. And then he refused to pay her the $30+ she was owed for the time she worked that day. As she was leaving, her trainer told her she had done a great job and that Dan frequently fires people with no warning and for no reason.

Holy crap. See? I TOLD YOU! The guy is insane! This is the first I've heard of someone else enduring the same treatment that I got, and even though I knew the dude was nuts and really, really wrong, somewhere deep down I thought that maybe it was just me. Thank you.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

That's the kind of place that "the word" needs to be spread about.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Is that something you could report to the BBB or someone like that?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

If the owner owes her money, she can file a complaint with the dept. of labor. She can also come to the worker's center and we'll call his ass up and threaten to send a priest, rabbit, and episcopalian minister over with signs and t-shirts and semi-religious protest songs.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

what's the rabbit going to do?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

singing bunnies!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think the BBB is just for company/customer relations. So if she'd gone in to buy ice cream and he screamed at her to get out, she'd call the BBB. Since we're a work at will state, he can fire or any time for any reason. The only law he broke is not paying her for the hours that she worked. Depending on what he said and whether she felt threatened by him, there's possible a tort action but that would be hard to pursue, I would guess.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

have you ever heard the sound a bunny makes? it really is blood-curdling. i suppose that would be effective.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are the rabbits still screaming, Clarice?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah-better bbb is really for consumers
on another note-my dad loves that place-he enjoys the owner's nastiness.

― renen (renen), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Fiver to thread.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.kyoht.com/archive/images/Fiver.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've never read all of Watership Down. I have seen the cartoon, though.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

It's really really good. I love it. I even read it for the first time as an adult and I loved it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

You're going to make me cry. I'm sleep deprived, it's a razor-thin margin already, and THAT BOOK WILL DO IT.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

i've never read any of it, what am i missing?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I should have known something was strange from the beginning. When I went to interview with him, his opening comment was, "So and so looked over your resume, and told me it was too good to be true." What does that mean? I'm overqualified? Why would any boss say that in a job interview?

He talked far more than I did in the interview. He detailed his personal finances. He told me that his business isn't doing that well. He only makes about $40,000 a year, he said. Ok, odd thing to tell me, but whatever, I need a job, and I'm willing to accept this.

I worked there for two weeks -- that's a generous estimate. Then there came the day when, out of the clear blue sky, he went fucking nuts. He calmly called me into the back and then said, "You're a lazy piece of shit. Get the fuck out of my store." Actually, he shouted it more than anything. Screamed it, more like. He said it more than once. I had a glass of iced tea in my hand, and in my total shock, I went to take a sip. He grabbed it from my hand and threw it -- literally threw it -- across the kitchen. He said, "You don't get to drink my tea. Get the fuck out of my store!"

I gathered my things and went to leave out the front. This was not acceptable. "NO!" he said. "YOU LEAVE OUT THE BACK, YOU PIECE OF SHIT!" I do not quote that idly. It is burned in my brain. I had to leave out the back door, and walk around to the front door to say "psst" to my friends who were in the restaurant waiting for me to get off work.

I have to be fair. This man makes the best sour cream coffee cake I have ever tasted. He's a damn good baker. DAMN good. But how he ever got to own a business is baffling to me. I've worked in restaurants, and I've known a lot of bakers, and they were all good, and they were all fucking assholes. Bakers, it is known, do not posses the disposition to own, manage, or in any way oversee a business. Bakers are dicks. They just are.

This poor man is no exception. Go to Taste of Heaven if you must. You will get very, very good pastry and baked goods, guaranteed. But Lord Almighty, is that guy ever an asshole.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

If I can get through The Adventures of Augie March, I will try it. (Note: I like TAofAM, but it's kind of slow going and I'm currently putting it on hold to read Desperate Characters, which shouldn't take long since it's pretty short.)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, remember when you guys were talking about noise-canceling headphones? Any recommendations? I want to get some for the flight to/from Switzerland and the cheapest ones I saw at Best Buy were sixty bucks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Bakers are dicks. They just are.

haha

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Kevin: a book about bunnies.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

If it were me he would have had his nose broken in like 3 places as soon as he grabbed that glass. Isn't that assult? Jenny?!?

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

These are the ones I have and they cancel out white noise even when you don't have music on. Runs on one AAA battery.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I certainly wondered that myself, esp. since I was so scared he was about to hit me, but whatever.

Point is, he's a typical awesomely talented and completely psycho baker.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Otto: Happy Village at what time?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost due to poxy fule:

I mean, I know punching the dude in the face would be assult, but could it also be construed as self-defense since the dude physically went after Kenan first?

My mom always said I should be a lawyer. Maybe I should pursue that instead of the greater publications production world.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Amanda.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I meant I will try to read Watership Down if I get through Augie March, not that I will try Taste of Heaven.

xpost: Well, someone can commit battery without actually touching someone, but just touching their clothes or something in their hand as long as it's "intimately connected" with the person (the big case is one where a black NASA scientist was at a banquet and a waiter grabbed a plate out of his hand and called him some racist shit and the scientist brought a successful civil suit for battery) so maybe.

Assault is when someone does something to someone else to put them in "immanent apprehension of harm." So if he had just run at Kenan screaming and foaming at the mouth but never touched him, that would be battery.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

...that would be ~~battery~~ assault.

Note that this is civil, not criminal. I don't know what you have to do to bring criminal charges against someone for assault and/or battery - depends on the laws of the jurisdiction where you are when it happened.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

What if you're in a Hooters near the Cleveland airport. Then what.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

"The intentional snatching of an object from one's hand is as clearly an offensive invasion of his person as would be an actual contact with the body. 'To constitute an assault and battery, it is not necessary to touch the plaintiff's body or even his clothing; knocking or snatching anything from plaintiff's hand or touching anything connected with his person, when, done is an offensive manner, is sufficient.'" Fisher v. Carrousel Motor Hotel, Inc., 424 S.W.2d 627, 629 (TEX 1967).

Thank you, ChILX for making my first year torts class useful and relevant.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

What if you're in a Hooters near the Cleveland airport. Then what.

As your attorney, I advise you to RUN.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Wise words. See y'all tomorrow.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2002-03-14/movie_repfeature-1.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

oops http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2002-03-14/movie_repfeature-1.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Eric -- are you back in Chicago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

John, GC= God Camp, where I am training for my time in NO with a lot of seminary students and others interested in religion. They made me sing a song about the Lord and then a song that repeated the word "Journey" so much that it lost Chicago: This Is Grand meaning and sound weird.

I am preparing to eat some pizza. Gigio's is preparing kosher pizza for some of our kosher folks.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

jordan--i had a pair of noise cancelling headphones that were these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006HOGN/sr=1-3/qid=1150153256/ref=sr_1_3/102-3311372-7844910?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=electronics

they weren't any good for my purposes, but i gave them to a friend who flew a lot and he said they were great for that, or for listening to stuff in his room when he had a loud fan on. amanda's headphone recommendation sounds better though, so i think you should go for those sonys. that's a great price for them.

God Camp complete with singing sounds rather frightening. though possibly amusing at times.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

At least they are really really liberal religious folks.

My pussy is on fire. I have been dying to say that ALL FREAKIN DAY.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

I went through GC last summer. It's not the worst religious experience I've ever had, but it gets a little oppressive sometimes.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

OH SHIT I saw Kevin on the Red Line! I was all El distracted and hadn't taken my sunglasses off yet and couldn't see so good but I came through the turnstile and saw a tall skinny dude with a lot of hair on a cell phone and I thought, "That looks like Kevin but I've only seem him in person once so who knows I probably shouldn't go talk to him," and then I got on the train and then I forgot until I saw him get off at Adison and got a good look at him and it was totally Kevin. Then I was sad because I could have been riding the train with Otto Midnight instead of the mouth breathing seat hog I was jammed up next to.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

jesuits are good and liberal. i don't remember them ever making me sing though.

i've done lots of volunteering with religious groups and the memories that stick out are breaking into a pool regularly and skinny dipping late at night, and a nun getting me drunk and making me talk about my love life. and of course building roofs and teaching kids and the usual volunteery stuff.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think part of my struggles with GC were that not only was I the only hardcore atheist in the bunch (there were some agnostic/searching types), but I was also the oldest one of the bunch since most of them were undergraduate interns. I made at least one dear friend, though so that was good. GC is like a weird combination of hippie camp and tent revival, so it's not even so much the god stuff as the do-gooder stuff. It leads to this nearly irrepressible urge to shout things like, "My pussy is one fire!" during the communal meals.

I coped by just cutting out early every day. Jesse can't do that, though, because he's IN CHARGE. HAHAHAHA! Sucker.

GC is "interfaith" which means that there are lots of different kids of God freaks around, not just Jesuits. Hence, singing.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Funny, I always had the urge to blaspheme during Sunday morning services. But I can see it cropping up at god camp; I went to one of those, too.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Catching up. I highly recommend all things Jan Jelinek. Seek out Textstar as well.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

leggy is not a competitive karaoke singer, in the professional sense. she did, however, do a killer rendition of Ring of Fire at a casino in Las Vegas after walking onto the stage and asking the Elvis impersonator if she could have a go. i was pretending to be british at the time, and getting loaded at the bar because they don't card brits (i was 19). the blue hairs in the audience thought she was "lovely" and really appreciated our collective enthusiasm.

it was 9.30am.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

it was totally Kevin

it totally was! i had to run an errand in wrigleyville. you should've said hello.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Otto: Happy Village at what time?

gonna hafta raincheck this time. errand was a little more expensive than i thought and i have a date tomorrow. AND I'LL BE ON THE RED LINE AGAIN TOMORROW.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, I am so stoked about this T0uch & G0 thing. I knew Scratch Acid was performing and didn't really care, but once I heard the whole lineup (even the link I provided above was incomplete) and the price? The Ex? GVSB? Even faux-N.A.? SOLD

!!!
The Black Heart Procession
Calexico
CocoRosie
Didjits (all original members)
Enon
The Ex
Girls Against Boys (all original members)
Killdozer (all original members)
Ted Leo + Pharmacists
Man... Or Astroman? (all original members)
Negative Approach (featuring John Brannon and OP Moore)
The New Year
Pegboy
Pinback
Quasi
Scratch Acid (all original members)
Seam
Shellac
The Shipping News
Supersystem
Three Mile Pilot
Uzeda

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, I am going to FIND you and SAY HELLO on the red line tomorrow. RUN.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

It is heartening to have a drink with your GC cohorts, also to hear about Catholic seminary blow-out keggers.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

What would really make sense in this world is for Kenan and Jenny to consider getting a little tan themselves because them bitches alabaster.

I hope my shrink calls in the prescription for Xanax soon, b/c I think it would be as helpful as the vile doses of Immodium chased with a literal spoonful of sugar. PAIGING DOCTOR MERKIN.....

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

That's a weird line-up. It sounds good, in theory, but going down the list band by band, there are only like four bands I actually want to see (The Ex, Scratch Acid, Seam and Shellac). Can we start a petition to get Ted Leo to retire? His music is OK but dude plays way too many fucking shows.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to see 7 of those bands. Enon the most.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

Calexico!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

didjits!

and unless i miss my guess i sat in piss on the bus this morning.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be interested in seeing !!!, Black Heart Procession, Enon, Man...or Astro-Man?, Pinback, Quasi, Shellac, and Supersystem, to varying degrees.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

i just realized i've already seen 9 of those bands.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

HAY FFS: why did I wait so long to listen to yr myspace tracks? I think the audio caught me unawares at work the other day, the point is that "Time Machine" has SUCKED ME IN and all 4 tracks are now available to everyone on my floor via my playlists.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am not interested in seeing any of those bands. Not that I wouldn't watch them if they were playing on my porch, but I can't say I'm a "fan" of any of them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i'm not planning on going but if i've got nothing better to do i might wander over.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

what's for breakfast, chicago?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Two slices of english muffin bread + margarine, iced coffee.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

i toasted a slice of semi-stale bread and a mug of java chased with two camel turkish silvers. i wish i had some oj.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I wish those bands would play on my porch, but only to me (and Nick, I guess.. and the cats). We could put lounge chairs out in the yard. I don't think our deck is that structurally sound though.

Kenan, Your exboss sounds even crazier than my boss when I worked at a cheese shop. She screamed at me in front of all the tourists (this was in Williamsburg) while firing me for quitting (I was giving my 2 weeks notice). What can I say? I was an indispensable cheese slicer and sandwhich artist.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I would have thought to toast some of our semistale bread this morning for breakfast. Instead, I grabbed an entire package of Ritz crackers and ate them all at my desk.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and thanks, Laurel. Did you watch our silly video? I'm pretty goofy in it, more than usual I hope.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, you have a great deck, if you don't mind me saying so.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sesame bagel w/ crm cheese/tomato/bacon. THE YOOSH.

Didn't watch video, though. :(

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, you have a great deck, if you don't mind me saying so.

take it over here bub.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

dear god the ways i would debase myself for a plate of bacon right now...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

All hands on deck!
ha ha

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Come on! That was funny!

I guess you guys all saw this?
http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/33271399

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

blocked at work. what was it?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wonder if he got any.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow I don't think the "complete journal" will tell us.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

This guy raised $10,000 to get a date with Lady Soveriegn. His blog doesn't seem to be working though.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

who is lady sovereign? it sounds like a puppets name on mr. roger's neighborhood or something.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

meow meowmeow meow

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

That's Daniel Striped Tiger. Yeah, I heard that one a lot.

― Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

She's a wee British rapper lady, I believe.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

In fact...

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. I thought it was going to be something about her having to cancel her tour due to an armwrestling-related injury.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

lady elaine was one puppet's name.

them bitches alabaster.

alabaster is lovely!

lady sovereign is a rapper who i don't remember much about except dl'ing some tracks and thinking meh. i'm rather cranky and judgemental of lots of things, especially rap.

i had a dream involving the end of the world and everyone was dying of something so this bookstore didn't have staff to unpack their inventory (i was looking for books on poetry and sci instead of, say, stocking up on necessities), and all i could find was my old biochemistry text, stacks and stacks of it wrapped in plastic.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Henrietta Pussycat was the one that was always like "Meow meow heroin meow meow addition meow."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Heroin addition! That's how kids of my generation learned math. The "new math."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

"meow meow heroin"? wtf are they teaching in that neighborhood??

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

I remember Lady Elaine and Henrietta Pussycat and King Friday but I don't remember Queen Sara Saturday or Prince Tuesday, but I think I'm going to totally call Sarah J. "Queen Sarah Saturday" because that's kind of a totally awesome name.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Also, "Queen Sarah Saturday" sounds like a Bob Dylan song.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

someone should make it up and sing it all bob dylan stylee at karaoke. adn then of course record it.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

OMG TWEE.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh you love it.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Queen Sara Saturday

SHE'S THE ONLY ONE I DID REMEMBER! that and the creepily named "mr. mcfeeley".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Shhhh, Dan. How am I supposed to convince the world I'm an Amazon when people keep talking about my B&S addiction and making me look all twee & indie?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Speedy delivery! Speedy delivery!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, Mr. Roger's Neighborhood is for the birds. Reading Rainbow and that show about the mannequin that came to life at night were the good shit!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

"Lady" Elaine is creepy as fuck.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

2x. She has the drunk nose.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't that a movie? the mannequin? or was there a show too?

i loved mr. rogers.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

COME GIVE ME A KISS, DANIEL STRIPED TIGER!

http://www.fci.org/images/temp/9e5adebfe334118d5fdb1d19c5947333.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit, she is creepy.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc and i have already partied with lady sovereign!!! for FREE!!!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Lady Elaine reminds me of a Gerald Scarfe illustration.

http://www.comicsreporter.com/images/uploads/GeraldScarfe.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

NO, no! Get away, lady! Bad touch! Bad touch!

http://www.fci.org/images/temp/f889a061561dcc95da858ed159888ddc.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the Punk Floyd dude?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Meow meow tiger molestation meow meow.

http://www.fci.org/images/temp/c3188dd5e437256a09de4ae3ac200713.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's the PInk Floyd dude.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I only know that he's "the Pink Floyd dude" because when I did a GIS, a bunch of Pink Floyd-related things came up. He's a British political cartoonist:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/400000/images/_404194_scarfe150.jpg

I saw a retrospective of his work at the National Gallery in London in '98.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

and all i could find was my old biochemistry text, stacks and stacks of it wrapped in plastic.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Heights/4737/peaks/petemartell.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't that a movie? the mannequin? or was there a show too?

http://www.megsplace.com/TimeWarp/tsgroup.jpg

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN, I had the exact same thought but was distracted by the Neighborhood of Make Believe and never got around to finding that dudes picture. GOOD JOB!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005R5G9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

"Why would I have seen The Wall" etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Lady Elaine doesn't look how I remembered her. I feel like I'm thinking of another puppet, though. One that's similarly red-nosed and -cheeked but with a more scrunched up face. Like a Spitting Image puppet, maybe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I can't see the lady Elaine pics! Damn you fci.com.

The mannequin's name was Jeff.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://pixhost.eu/avaxhome/media/images/gen-land_t.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Or .org. Damn you all!

Also, fuck Phil Collins!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://preacher.alwaysmad.com/preacher/covers/29a.gif

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Arse Face!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, ya'll. I found me a weddin' dress to show off my looonnnggg leegggsss. Ain't it purty?

http://a116.g.akamai.net/7/116/1463/infinite/origin.www.saksfifthavenue.com/media/images/products/look/V0477347014975_v1_m56577569831244723.jpg

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Tell me that's from a bridal site. Because if so, that is so horrific it's great.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

looks comfortable if you're painting your house in the summer.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's cute! But not as a wedding dress, obv.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sadly, it's not from a wedding site.

I think it's cute too, but that's cuz I'm country.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

please tell me nick's a little bit rock n' roll.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

haha

I think I've only heard African Americans use "country" as an adjective not related to music.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I often use "country" as an adjective not related to music, but I believe this is in emulation of African Americans I know who use "country" as an adjective not related to music.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Sadly, I believe that said usage is similar to the way white folks use "ghetto" as a term of disparagement.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

HA HA, John, You said "disparagement."

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that's necessarily true, John. I've always heard it used very descriptively, as in, "My cousins from Georgia are really country" or "That bar was too country for me, what with all the line dancing." Not like, "That hotel was so country. There were piles of grits in the corner and KKK rallies on the front lawn."

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

except for the first example i think you proved john's point.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

A bar with line dancing IS country. That's descriptive. Stating a preference for not going to bars with line dancing is not automatically disparaging. It's just stating a preference.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

If you'd said, "Those idiot rednecks at the line dancing bar were so country they made me sick," now that would be stating a preference, being descriptive, AND being very disparaging.

I'm not saying it's never used as an insult, I'm just saying that I've heard it used more descriptively than disparagingly.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

but saying it was "too country for me" and supporting that with the line dancing comment it would seem safe to infer that the speaker does not like line dancing.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I would say I'm "country" although I don't know if that can apply to people from the north.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

"That bar was too country for me, what with all the line dancing" = not a good example, since it refers to country music

"My cousins from Georgia are really country" = you're right, this doesn't necessarily indicate disparagement, but it strikes me as a judgment, not just a description. And I guess I'd argue that "ghetto" functions in a similar fashion: I don't think it's always used as a strict put-down. As in: "Rachel's new cellphone is pretty ghetto -- it doesn't even take photos."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

would say I'm "country" although I don't know if that can apply to people from the north.

we're backwoods, motherfucker!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I may say, "That sweater is too yellow for me."

That is descriptive, but not disparaging. Although, words like "country" or "ghetto" are certainly loaded with more meaning than the word "yellow," concededly. I think my point is that describing something, and even admitting to a distaste for that thing, shouldn't automatically be assumed to be an inappropriate or disparaging comment.

But still, I've heard the term employed more just as in the first example - to describe relatives that live in the south or rural parts of the midwest.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

My cousins from Georgia are really country" = you're right, this doesn't necessarily indicate disparagement, but it strikes me as a judgment,

Okay, but what's wrong with that? "This food is really spicy" or "My cousin from Georgia is really pretty" or "My cousin from upstate New York is really fat" are also all judgments.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

There's nothing wrong with it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

we're backwoods, motherfucker!

Haha yeah! Hence my original login name... "He lives on a farm on Dover Rd. - out dat way."

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to John: Ice cream for everybody!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Otto: Your namesake! Kind of! I am to the left of the camera but you can't see me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K0sxhslakk&search=drive%20like%20jehu

I hope youtube is not blocked by your work overlords. But it probably is.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Although, words like "country" or "ghetto" are certainly loaded with more meaning than the word "yellow," concededly

yeah, that's what i meant but i see your point. i guess it would depend on the context.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

i can access it but can't open it.
dammit, i wish i had some hot snakes here with me.

automatic midnight particularly.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think I was too quick to use the term "disparaging."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

That's so ghetto, you country motherfucker.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I was country when country wasn't cool.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Country is cool. DIRTY SOUTH!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Thank god I'm a country boy.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sun's coming up! I got cakes on the griddle!
LIFE AIN'T NOTHING BUT A FUNNY, FUNNY RIDDLE!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

You people are all nuts. I'm going downstairs to the concourse mall for an iced latte and sushi take-out.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

as a non-cable/satellite subscriber i only get a handful of channels. of the ones i get, only some come in clearly depending on a variety of circumstances. wttw, channel 11, always comes in however. and since it always comes in i find myself watching it a lot when i have the tv on. having said that, if i see that goddamn john denver retrospective one more time i'm throwing a cinder block through the set.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

laurel! bring me back an iced coffeeee please! i'll pay you back later!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel's sushi and latte run reminds me of my second favorite Kenan quote from the other night wherein he loudly and clearly announced on the train, as he spoke to Jesse on a cell phone, that he was not going to some "yuppie faggot shithole" for a drink, he was going to a proper bar.

I have probably said "yuppie faggot shithole" a billion times since last Friday.

I would also like an iced coffee, please.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I need to get an antenna for my TV. I was all excited to come home last night and watch Conan -- even more so when I saw that Lindsay Lohan was on -- but it was all fuzzy and snowy on Ch 5.

xpost haha!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

i would like some ramen....which is why i'm making it RIGHT NOW.

hey guys! who's watching the world cup! I DON'T HAVE A JOB!!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

haha I'm glad someone is amused at my less than professional demeanor.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

rofflolz @ "YFS"

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

"yuppie faggot shithole" is a great phrase.
xp

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of faggot shitholes, a dude asked me to marry him saturday night. or sunday morning. i told him thanks but no.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am in Catholic Social Teaching, AKA, Radical Economic Liberationist Indoctorination. Very very ineteresting!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the CST class at GC. I had no idea Catholics could be so badass.

(Note: I have since met some rather badass nuns (mostly through 8th Day) and now I know.)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I went to college with the son of this Catholic badass. (Didn't actually know him, though: he was a few years ahead of me.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I did not actually go for coffee, I was just combining the most urban consumption/pursuits I could think of. Sorry, Jenny & Kevin. Kevin, have they let you out for lunch anytime since mid-last week?

I like where Kenan's going with the yuppie faggot shithole. Here, at least, it seems like they're all filled with people who went to "B-school" and girls who keep up their tan lines year-round. I don't really need to elaborate on that, do I?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Here, at least, it seems like they're all filled with people who went to "B-school" and girls who keep up their tan lines year-round.

wait a minute, YOU'RE on the red line too? i noticed yesterday that the ratio of beautiful people on the red line vs. the blue line is heavily tilted in the red line's favor. i may not be handsome enough to ride the red line today, i may have to take a bus.

and i have not been out to lunch since last week. i brought some rice and red beans today. and it doesn't look like i'm coming out for the dot dash shows either.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I definitely don't think of those as the Beautiful People! BPs are aspiring actresses/models or fashion students or muses or something. They might be annoying for perpetuating the unattainable beauty standards, but at least they're stylish in some sense.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

The high ratio of those folks on the Red may have been beacuse of the Purple Line shutdown.

But you're right about Red v. Blue in that respect. The Blue does get the Day Traders Coming from O'Hare with Lots of Baggage who Put Said Baggage on Seats, though, as I'm sure you know. Those people are both teh awesome and teh shitty. I love the looks on their faces as the crowds fill in around them. Just keep staring ahead. Just keep staring ahead. Just keep staring ahead. Just keep staring ahead. If you don't look at the homeless man he will just disappear. Maybe fiddle with your Blackberry. Just keep staring ahead. Just keep staring ahead.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

i noticed yesterday that the ratio of beautiful people on the red line vs. the blue line is heavily tilted in the red line's favor.

You're nuts. There are always hot girls on the Blue Line.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

I was a Blue Liner in 2004. These days I'm a Division Bus rider. I think that means I moved up a notch in society.

Great news you guys! She said yes! My cousin is engaged! Praise the Lord!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

It's so Charles de Lint. XP to Dan.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

L3anne is in for Saturday as is her bf.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

L3anne is in for Saturday as is her bf.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, silly me.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I was a little overexcited apparently.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

i noticed yesterday that the ratio of beautiful people on the red line vs. the blue line is heavily tilted in the red line's favor.
You're nuts. There are always hot girls on the Blue Line.

i should've prefaced my statement by saying i usually ride from forest park to western/290. sometimes i'll ride through the loop to damen but usually i don't. there was a great number of physical beauties on the red line yesterday. most of them were giving off a "i'm a huge fucking prick" vibe, however.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

there was a great number of physical beauties on the red line yesterday.

So you saw me, too, then!

*does something dreadfully haughty*

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

most of them were giving off a "i'm a huge fucking prick" vibe,

sure did!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I KIIIIIIIIID!!!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I felt like a huge prick for walking right past you and not recognizing you right away. Or not recognizing that I recognized you, if that makes any sense.

I do give off a prick vibe on the el, but that is to deflect any attempts anyone might want to make at talking to me. Or smiling at me. Or making eye contact. I like to call it my, "CAREFUL OR I'LL SHIV YOU" vibe, although it's more a "Just please let me sit quietly and read in peace, okay? Please?" vibe.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

where did you get on? 'cause i didn't see you. but i spent most of my time looking out the window at the subway walls and tried not to look at anyone.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

I ran into a girl I know this morning on the train. I wasn't really in the mood to talk to her, since I just wanted to sit in peace and listen to music, but she approached me first. She talked about her recent tour with F4ll 0ut B0y and upcoming tours with Chr1s Br0wn and P4nic! At the D1sc0 (she's a production assistant), which was interesting I suppose -- but I was also glad that she got off at Addison.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, i don't think i'll be on the red line tonight after all. or at least not until much much later and headed inbound.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jackson. You were standing up against a wall just inside the turnstile talking on your cell phone (I am impressed that you can get reception down there). That was the "That looks like Kevin, that very well might be Kevin, I think that was Kevin, that was totally Kevin, shit should I go back upstairs and say hello? No that's too weird. Here comes the train. Look something shiny!" moment. Then, as the train sat in the Addison station, I was sitting and looking out the window trying not to look at anyone and I saw you on the platform.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

GET A ROOM ALREADY

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

holy crap, yeah, i had my ipod on and my phone started vibrating. i thought my cigarettes were pressing a button but it kept happening so i took out the phone and sure enough it was ringing. it was my ex roommate calling from san diego, i told her i couldn't talk and that i'd call her that night. i tried her home and cell and never got through. hope it wasn't anything important.

by the way, i can't get f'ing reception in my goddamn subterranean apartment but i can in the goddamn subway? wtf? why do i have to go out on my stoop to take a phone call?

xpost:
eat me, etc.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

What service provider do you have? We used to have Cingular and couldn't get reception in our house save for two "hot spots," one of which involved leaning out the sun room windows and the other of which was on the toilet. Now we have US Cellular and can get reception all over the damn place.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

--
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), June 13th, 2006 3:17 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)

That wasn't me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

i'm still stuck with sprint who i hate but i think i'm on the hook with them for another 8 months. after destroying my phone at last year's blackout they said they'd give me a new one if i extended my plan another two years. i can sometimes get reception if i stand near the living room windows but that's hit or miss too so i just go outside and smoke while i'm on the phone. luckily i don't use my phone that much except for drunk txting.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

sorry john-i could not help myself.
(someone needs to learn to log out of my computer.)

― renen (renen), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Otto we need to get together and drink and bitch about Sprint sometime.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

i'm free tomorrow and thursday. or saturday while everyone else is karaoke'ing we can drink and bitch, bitch and drink.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Renee, the fact that you had a golden opportunity to wind John up in a magnificent way but settled for a mere "--" proves that you are a true friend of jaymc.

xpost - will you be drinking and bitching at the Hidden Cove or are you guys going to totally shun us?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh i'm planning on going to the cove! last time i was there i fell asleep on the bus and woke up at 51st & western around sun up. aiming for a better night this time.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure I'm going to be in town this weekend. If I am I'll be there. IF YOU GUYS DON"T DITCH ME AGAIN :)

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

hey man, i didn't ditch you. i stood you up.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, how creepy does this living situation sound???

http://chicago.craigslist.org/roo/171073439.html

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

creepy--
this explains it "was being used as my soon to be ex-wifes changing room/powder room"

― renen (renen), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! I'm employed! That's a relief.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

XPOST: CONGRATULATIONSSS!!!!!! What are you doing? Where is this yuppie faggot shithole?

Yeah, because he's going to stab her or something.

This part, too: "Willing to trade services. You help cook and clean for free rent. Sorry not asking to trade sex for free rent from neither guy or girl.

Prefer a girl roomate as I lived with 5 in college and was just a better time. Afraid if I live with a guy i will constantly drink and get nothing accoomplished before my big move."

If you have to disclaim that you are not asking for sex in trade for free rent in your ad, something is FUNKY with your ad.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Afraid if I live with a guy i will constantly drink and get nothing accoomplished before my big move."

also, apparently women don't drink alcohol.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

For sale: Used Schwinn bike, 5 gears, new tires. I am not asking for sex in trade for this bike.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

What are you doing? Where is this yuppie faggot shithole?

It's the condo development company. I'll be doing webby things. Finally, health insurance!

"Sorry not asking to trade sex for free rent from neither guy or girl."

I like that he feels the need to apologize. As if that's the usual thing to trade.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Women will be too busy cooking and cleaning to drink.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

talk to you kids later, wish me luck.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. Good luck with what?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

pssssst HE HAS A DATE

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

OH! Well! Good luck, indeed!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

OK. Normally I would be annoyed by this--if it were any other landlord, I would be on the phone right now bitching up a storm and asking Jenny to get me a copy of the Landlord-Tenant Code. But I'm OK.

--When I got home just now I found that I had one new window in my living room. I knew there were windows in the basement with my name on them, but no one told me that I would be getting a new window today, despite talking to the landlord twice today.

I really do love my ONE new window. Now maybe we can make it a matching PAIR or even ALL THREE?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

hey chicago, how you doing?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

how are YOU doing??

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

into it. feelin' it. lookin' good.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

How was the date??

Unrelated -Does anyone else think it's weird that Paper Source has a shit stamp?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair, it is a useful word.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

So I don't go in this morning until 10:15. I am relaxed, I think, and kinda rested. Seems I got all my anxiety out in my sleep last night, with one strange, tense dream after another. Now I'm not really worried about anything except if people will like my shirt.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

You have some nice shirts! Good luck today.

I was having this bizarro dream when the alarm went off this morning. Nick was talking to a large group of people about some kind of art form, complete with a technical term I can't remember. Anyway, he said, How about we all go to the beach today and I'll demonstrate it? So we did. When we got there, he had everyone sit in the sand. An eel swam up into shallow water. It poked it's head up and Nick threw a huge plastic bucket full of hot wax on it. The eel sort of froze there, covered in wax. Then as the wax started to melt, he gradually sank down back into the sand, but his eyes were still open and he could barely move. THE END.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

I honestly don't know which is more stressful: being unemployed or starting a new job. I know which is better, obv, but I'm talking just sheer stress level here.

xpost That's some very conceptual art there.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

what would PETA say about that?
good luck with the job today kenan.
date started off horribly, got progressively better and all in all wasn't half bad.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, Kevin.

Kenan, it's ok though because eels are gross.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD MORNIN'
Congrats on everything, everyone. I didn't read everything from the day I missed. Highlights?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

being unemployed or starting a new job

I think both are really stressful, and that's why I don't want to be a freelancer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD MORNING. Chicago, I am TIRED. My standard bedtime has somehow gone from 11:00 to 1:00, and that doesn't work for me. Sometimes I've been staying up late working on tracks, but sometimes just...because. There aren't enough hours in the day etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking about the word "shit" this morning. More specifically the word "beshit." "Shit" is still considered a "bad word," but it's got a certain nobility that I think other bad words lack.

I had the longest worstest baddest dream last night. Jeff and I were at the Brew and View (although I've never been there) to see Cannibal Holocaust when ALLASUDDEN the movie began to happen all around us, and we found ourselves in the midst of an actual cannibal holocaust! We ran out of the theater to escape, but realized we had left all our stuff inside and had to go back. We went back into the theater and there were dead bodies everywhere. I couldn't find my back pack, so we tried to run for it but this big Asian dude was blocking the door, saying, "You must go out through the exit." This was a trap! So I said, "Jeff! Just run! RUN!!!!" because I guess I was going to stay and battle the Asian cannibal. We ran out through the in door (not in through the out door) and the big Asian was magically in our way so I did some crazy Chuck Norris kick to his chest and then I woke up.

I had to PEE so I went to the bathroom, BUT when I went back to bed??? The dream started up again where I left off. SO FUCKING IRRITATING.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like you have a fever. I always have rollercoaster dreams when I have a fever. Either rollercoaster or "stuck in a labyrinthine house and I can't get out" dreams.

I still haven't decided what I want to do for dinner on Saturday.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

That's okay, I haven't decided what do for dinner for today through next Wednesday.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

The dream started up again where I left off.

that's awesome.

xpost re: dinner saturday- SMOKE DADDY!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

I love some Smoke Daddy, but the old man would KILL me if I went there without him. (He'll be in MTL) Also, too far from HC! Has anyone ever been to La Fonda on Broadway? They have my one of my favorite cocktails ever there -- it's mango puree and aguardiente. YUM.

Think about that while I go to my "delivering great customer service" seminar. i hope i come out alive.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

delivering great customer service" seminar

That sounds like the kind of meeting that could benefit from a cannibal holocaust.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going to smoke daddy. or feed, screw, i'm going to feed. 1/2 light, mac & mashed. maybe some greens. goddamn, i wanna go right now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I ate at Smoke Daddy last night, and then ranted to Julia on the phone about how bad it sucks. The pulled pork -- the true test of a bbq place, says me -- is made very poorly. It's not cooked long enough, not pulled at all but instead chopped, full of gristle, and drenched in sauce as if they're trying to hide something. The sauce itself is not good. Way too sweet. The french fries are soggy right out of the fryer. Even the coleslaw seems to be made carelessly. The brisket's ok, I guess, though I like to see a lot more of a smoke ring. None of this would be so bad, but a sandwich there is $8.50, which is robbery even if the bbq's good, which it's not.

So speaketh the Texan.

Ok, I have to go to work.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I made a Rachel Ray recipe the other night of pulled "barbecue" chicken and it was really, really good.

(Air-quoted because it wasn't slow cooked or any of that good bbq stuff.)

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

At Walgreens last night I saw they were selling prepackaged sloppy joes. Yuck.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Get one Honey 1

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Heckys is great. But the one in evanston, not the one in chicago.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

The one in Chicago is also right next to Cabrini Green, mind you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I'm glad date improved!! This clearly explains why you were too busy to answer my text msg... ;)

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

(They should have a side called "Cabrini greens.")

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Haha: Users of alcohol-endorsed Evite designs must be of legal drinking age.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm finally done putting together my Summer of 1992 mixtape. I can't say what's on it, but I had to cut "Life is a Highway," "November Rain," "This Used to Be My Playground," "Move This," and a few R&B slow jams ("Honey Love," "Come and Talk to Me") that were just too long.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a Will Shortz-style brain-teaser for you all:

Last night, I was standing at an intersection in Chicago. If you put the names of the two streets together and replace one (1) letter, you'll get the first and last name of a TV star popular in the 1990s.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

This "seminar" is making me die. Help.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Joey Lawrence

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Good guess, but no.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

(Although that'd be cool if there was a Joel or Jody Ave. that intersected with Lawrence, creating an alternate answer to the puzzle.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Amanda. I have to attend a "time management" seminar this summer. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

This is hard for someone who generally unfamiliar with Chicago urban geography and TV in the 90s.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I was all ready to post "WHOA" if I was somehow right. :)

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Mario Lopez

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I should give a hint, but I'm not sure how much to give you. Okay: the intersection is downtown-ish.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

And it was a hospital drama.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

There's a Clooney street??

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Keep guessing, hot-shot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Maura Tierney? Lawerence Tierney?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

(this is ridiculous, I don't know any streets in Chicago besides Lawrence and I never watched ER)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I could be talking about Chicago Hope!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm not, though.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

That I really never watched.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

it's so sad because the money that was spent on this seminar could have been used to bribe me to give better customer service. when will they ever learn?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

you should give them the full hint john. though that did not even help me. but i suck at all puzzle games (minus sudoku)

― renen (renen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

What's the full hint?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

have you said which show out right-i guess it is likely obvious-hospital drama, etc?

― renen (renen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am not guessing anymore. I am going home and I'm making a toasted ham & cheese sandwich (i.e. what I had for lunch and dinner yesterday).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's E.R.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

But is it that Antonia Banderas-lookin' motherfucker from ER?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, fuck - Eriq LaSalle.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Dan wins!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I used the power of the intertron.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=W+Erie+St+and+N+La+Salle,+chicago,+il&ie=UTF8&ll=41.894227,-87.632661&spn=0.015078,0.042915&om=1

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know who the Antonio Banderas-lookin' motherfucker is, but I was surprised to see (just now) that Linda Cardellini was on E.R. in its last couple of seasons.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i love the sound of a pedal steel.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I sent the brain-teaser to my bandmates, and Colin said, "Adams and Clark is really close to Adam Arkin (of Chicago Hope)."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

How does one get any work done with the internet?
I'm ok today, but i don't want to be fired. I need recommendations.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

advice

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

I have never been so tired in all my life. Work + GC = :(

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad I went away while you all worked out that puzzle. I was trying to hard to make "Winnemac" into somebody's name.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have no advice, deej.

This is a fantastic album cover:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/NoOneCares.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I get work done with the internets by 1) having a deadline that I can't get around; or 2) by working at the computer out in the hall so that at any moment, some important law firm type can walk by and see me fucking around online rather than working on my importan law firm work and then yell at me. I also get work done with the internets when I do work that I enjoy more than I enjoy the internets, which happens more often than you might imagine.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of my work requires me to be surfin' the world wide infomatrix, so it's pretty easy to keep a tab open to ILX for random appearances such as this.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, that answers the question of how not to get caught. (I'm in the same boat.) But how do you resist the allure?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i am so fucking bored i just read all the spam in my gmail account.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get as much work done as I "should", but I do meet all my obligations.

As for not getting caught, I have two monitors and a bunch of windows open, so it always looks like I could be working. And I'm a pretty quick draw on the minimize button.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

My current problem is this: go home for lunch, make sandwich, open up Cubase and starting cutting up beats, OH SHIT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR AN HOUR.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

This was posted on the DC thread, but I thought it deserved a mention here, too: Let's Save Dustin Diamond's House

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, that answers the question of how not to get caught. (I'm in the same boat.) But how do you resist the allure?

Well, I generally do my non-work internetting while waiting for automatic processes to finish. Or distilling PDFs, compiling code, etc. But there are definitely times where I just sit back and write an email for 15 minutes or browse a couple of threads. Thing is, my work is pretty laid back and definitely not corporate, so you can kind of do what you want. I mean, if I wasn't getting my share of the work done you can be sure I wouldn't be fooling around here as much.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, if I wasn't getting my share of the work done you can be sure I wouldn't be fooling around here as much.
Ditto. They would know if I weren't getting my work done since it would sit there, undone. It gets done.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

28 Day Slater

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Mine gets done, too, but there's a constant workflow, so I'm never quite sure what "done" means. I mean, I could go a hell of a lot faster than I do, and I'm sure if they knew I was capable of it, they'd be disappointed in my current productivity. I think I've just created low expectations.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Screech lives in Milwaukee, right? He should just get a cheap place in Riverwest and stop whining.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

So i have spent a good part of the day trying to find a lawyer for a client in Georgia. one lawyer's email is crackerlawyer@___.com ...

― renen (renen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm generally a nice person, and have expressed sympathy for the plights of such celebrities as Brittney Spears and even that idiot Tara Reid in the past, but I'm completely unable to summon up any sympathy for Dustin f'n Diamond. Especially as Jeff and I are struggling (well, it's more of a struggle for me since I like to do things than it is for Jeff, who has a dominant tight wad gene) to save money to get a measley little condo.

He should, indeed, just stop whining.

And how does a teen drama superstar get bad credit? Dumbass.

xpost: !!! So, is that the one you're going to use or what?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Supposedly his old man stole all his child star monies, but I tend to agree with Jenny.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

He oughta sue his old man, then. Or just get a damn job.

See, my sympathy is greater for Brit and Tara because I don't think there's anything else they could possible do that would allow them to earn much above minimum wage. And Brit has 1.5 mouths to feed. 2.5 if you could that Federline guy.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe his brother Mike D can help him out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, but Screech must be smart, right?

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost He is Money Mike after all.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

PICK ONLY ONE: BEARISH, MUSTACHIOED PUBLIC INTELLECTUAL

http://www.isepp.org/Media/Speaker%20Images/93-94%20Images/Stephen%20Jay%20Gould.jpg http://images.villagevoice.com/issues/0535/clover.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe his brother Mike D can help him out.

NOT ACTUALLY RELATED

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/974/3Alex_Karras.jpg

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, Dan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is out on DVD.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I KNOW! It was on FMC two nights ago too. I watched the first part, up until the end of the first party at Z-Man's and then I fell asleep.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/kelly_eyes2.gif

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, actually I watched the montage where they sing "In the Long Run" too and experience a rise to fame. I love that song.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've never seen it but I want to buy it and have a movie night. Or go to N&S's and watch it, as I believe they have the VHS tape. Amanda, I think it's important that you and I watch this movie together.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

That is one of the weirder animated gifs I've seen.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

The guy across the hall from me is named Alex Karras. No kidding. I will not make any jokes about Mongo.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

lol ebert

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

OMG You have NEVER seen it? It's like one of my top 5 fave movies ever. I am looking forward to buying it for myself as a graduation prez.

We totally have to watch it together, if you don't mind me singing along.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

that movie freaked me out the one and only time i saw it.

jenny: yeah totally going to call crackerlawyer..don't quite understand why he thought that email address was a good idea.

― renen (renen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've never seen it, but you knew that.

Someone who isn't prohibited from editing Wikipedia articles at work should clean up the Alex Karras article. There are no factual errors, but Blazing Saddles is mentioned in two separate paragraphs under the Acting heading, and Webster isn't mentioned there at all (despite the fact that it's referenced in the intro).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost He's probably a veteran of the saltine class-action suits.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

One of my law school chums has "craftybeaver" at whatever as her email addy which, as far as I know, is what she uses on resumes and everything. I know it's a hardware store, but still.

John, are you implying that you are prohibited from editing Wikipedia articles? Is there Wikipedia drama in your past that you need to share with the rest of us?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, yeah, Dan, he brings wrongful death suits against cracker companies on behalf of survivors of idiots who tried to eat five saltines in 10 seconds without drinking anything.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

When you work for the competition, editing articles from a traceable IP address looks a bit unseemly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

(I mean, I can do it at home.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

A job! I have a job! They gave me the high-end estimate that I wanted for my salary! Tomorrow I get 10 grand worth of computer equipment! I have my own office! (Though it's currently doubling as a storage room, so it looks none too impressive.) Anyway. Goodness.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yaaaay. Congrats! That sure didn't take too long :)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Congrats!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. I'm pretty happy about it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, dude. Is it a long-term thing?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes. Insurance, the whole bit.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Three weeks vacation a year! Non-standard, but they offered it to me anyway, just as a boon. I think they really want me to stay.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys, I know it's a little late... but Bottomless Pit (ex-Silkworm dudes) are playing at Schuba's tonight, and I'm gonna be there. Say hello if any of you perchance to show up!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I'm tired.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i'm chock full o'hummus.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Dan - I looked around for you at the BP show - I hope I wasn't completely oblivious. Good stuff. Nick, you should see these guys for the pretty and ugly-pretty guitar sounds alone.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

Today was my last day of work-work until August.

Today at God Camp I found Jesus.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

He was stuck under the rabbi the whole time!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

Today was my last day of work-work until August.

Heh. Except for that whole running a worker rights internship program in New Orleans, of course.

Chicago, I'm in trouble. We rented the first DVD, first season of Lost and watched three of the episodes and now I'm not going to be able to think of much else until I have seen everything and found out what's happening.

I have one very huge must-know question though: does the show start to suck later on? Like, do the episdoes on TV now totally suck?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

Today I woke up a full hour late and decided to forego a shower. I hope no one notices.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

Like, do the episdoes on TV now totally suck?

dear god no they do not. i have a terrible lost addiction. though i missed the season finale due to blackout obligations. so i don't know what happened to end the year.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, I'm with you -- I've seen the first 4 eps and have another disc at home but haven't been home AWAKE long enough to watch any. SUCKED IN.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I dreamed about it last night, in a very vague, stranded on an island something is coming to get us kind of way.

In other news, I am pretty sure I sat next to the real life Margaret White on the train this morning. Frizzy red hair, long black dress, bible in hand and everything.

http://www.posterchoice.com/im/7575_small.jpg
http://pedagogie.cegep-fxg.qc.ca/programmes/artslettres/ce/etudiants/JEANBOUR.912/selection/cinema/carrie_fichiers/image006.jpg

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

THEY'RE ALL GOING TO LAUGH AT YOU

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

She kept saying that! I was like, "They're breasts, Mama! And everybody has them!" but she wasn't having it. So I crucified her with kitchen gagdets and brought a rain of stones down on the Red Line. Sorry for the delays.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Frizzy red hair, long black dress, bible in hand and everything

except for the bible you could be describing miss alex white.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

So you're the reason I was late, huh. GREAT. I'll see you in the locker room, bitch.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely, Otto. (Hey, I spied J. 0'Rourke at the Schubas show last night.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a question for Lost fans (I am avoiding those Lost threads because for once in my life, I don't want to know what happens but I will try to corall my enthusiasm so as not to turn this thread into a mini-Lost thread, I promise): Do you notice a striking similarity between the (first three, anyway) episodes of the show and Stephen King's standard plot decives?

Also, I'm glad to know that the show doesn't suck now. That was my big fear - getting all into the show only to have it totally stink it up before it ended.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

that might be a good way to spend the weekend, holed up in my apartment with the Lost DVDs and a couple of bottles of cough medicine.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ok Dave.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, snap!

EZ, I thought I saw you across the room when we were just about to leave. Did you get a haircut?

Great show, and it sounds like all the local rockstars were in the house... I was with my friend S@m and a bunch of his cronies from the Electrical Audio boards. Albini walked in just as Bottomless Pit was about to start. It was kind of funny, all those dudes were laughing and talking and then BZRRRRP!!!* -- Silence for The Man Himself. :)

*the text equivalent of a record skipping

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Safety First, you eat shit!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Don't you think Kubrick based Alex off Ronnie from BTVOTD?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like this is home for the next while--http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=2826+Audubon+St%2C+New+Orleans%2C+LA+70125&csz=&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Like, do the episdoes on TV now totally suck?

I completely missed first season, got recaps through TV Without Pity and Maddie, and then watched most of second season. I was into it but there's definitely bad and good.

Bad = "why does no one TELL anyone anything on this show"/"why does nothing HAPPEN on this show"/"do they even know what they're DOING"?! Good = when the plot does start cranking.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

He was stuck under the rabbi the whole time!

what was he doing to the rabbi?

i just typed rabbit.

lost is awesome for the first season, and then gets variable the second season but still has episodes where OMG EXCITING etc. i'm not sure what i thought of the finale. at the time i really liked it except for the end but now i'm not all psyched up for s3 the way i was for s2, and generally just don't care as much, hmmph.

i never thought of similarity with steven king, and now i might have to rewatch some of the beginning to seeeee....

jordan, you need to see the first season, even if you know what's going to happen. it was FUN.

i had CAKE for breakfast. excellent.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Niiiice.

Question: Is it in bad form to flush the toilet when the person in the stall beside you is talking on a cell phone? I get a certain kick out it.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's bad form to talk on the phone while you're on the toilet!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

If someone is on the cell phone in the stall beside me, I take great pleasure in flushing. And farting as loudly as possible.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

still has episodes where OMG EXCITING etc

there was an episode this season where i screamed/exclaimed 3 seperate expletives in a progressively louder voice to the point where my upstairs neighbor came down to check on me. that episode revolved around michael, you know the one.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh yes. good episode.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

During the scene in pilot part 2 where they find the front of the plane I was clenching a blanket and half covering my face with it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have had the complete first season of Lost on my bookshelf for the last, I dunno, three or four months, and haven't watched any of it. I did watch the pilot episode, which I downloaded from iTunes, and I really liked it, but I just haven't managed to make time for the show. New TV may help with this, but so should quitting the band and giving up my writing career. I have to give the DVDs back to my friend Mat, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am tempted to just download it all from iTunes and watch it on the el on my iPod.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

John john john john watch it and then we can talk about it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen one single minute of Lost. What's this about giving up the music and writing? Did I miss something?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

my friends tivo'd the season finale as we were all blacking out but one of the french dudes who was staying with them CHANGED THE CHANNEL about 30 seconds into it. They dl'd it and watched it the following sunday, they asked if i wanted to come over and see it but i'd had enough of being around people so i stayed home and just stared at my walls in complete silence for a few hours.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I've been looking at that map of New Orleans for many minutes trying to track my various driving misadventures. I always get where I'm going, but sometimes it, uh, takes a couple of tries.

I haven't been around that area much, Jesse (probably through it, though). Ilx0r Adam lives a few miles south of you, and Broadview Seafood (my favorite food place in the city) is a few miles north-east.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

What's this about giving up the music and writing? Did I miss something?

Nah, I'm just kidding. Just that I'd probably have more time to devote to TV if I weren't wrapped up in other pursuits. I'm going to see Prairie Home Companion tonight -- I'm excited!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good- it was the "should" versus "would" that threw me off. I am trying to teach modals to my students right now and they were having trouble comprehending that "must" could mean (1) obligation "You must register with the national guard" and (2) probability "You must be Mrs. Robinson."

"You Must Love Me" gives ample opportunity for classroom laffs when illustrating this point.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, tomorrow night I am going to see some New Orleans music (Dr. John, Neville Brothers, and Preservation Hall Jazz Band, live at Ravinia) and then I am going to find you, wherever you are, and send you off. When I see you, I will mimic Dixieland trumpet noises with my mouth.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I was actually thinking about the two usages of "must" the other day!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I would have more time for making music if I didn't play video games and watch movies.

I would have more time for cleaning and exercising if I didn't make music.

I would have more time to read if I didn't have to sleep so much.

I would have more time to practice if I didn't have to work so much.

etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, you have a very good grasp of modals and conditionals. Excellent work.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

My dad and stepmom are going to that show, John. Should be good, although I'm not sure that any of the Pres. Hall players I really like are on the tour.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

That Friday show sounds great. I just got invited to go with some folks to see Keillor at Ravinia on Sat afternoon - on the lawn, might as well. Join in if you like.

Ah, Chicago. From Bottomless Pit to Ravinia.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Garrison Keillor's voice makes me want to kill myself.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent positive reinforcement, Amanda.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

You've got noise-cancelling headphones, though, don't you, 'manda? Wear them and picnic with us.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Where will Jesse be on Friday night? I feel somewhat responsible for his send off.

I used to like Prairie Home Companian. I haven't listened to it in a long time so it's hard to say whether I still do.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Where will Jesse be on Friday night? I feel somewhat responsible for his send off.

I don't know -- I assumed you would be there!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, so this old man just walked in here (old, but not decrepid) to meet with the owner. He's some BigShot investor. Anyway, I always offer guests something to drink. So I brought him out a bottle of water and he said, "WEllll, aren't you a sweetie? What a sweetheart. WHOOO'S MY LITTLE SWEETIE? WHO IS IT? WHO IS IT? IS IT YOU? ARE YOU MY LITTLE SWEETIE?"

He is definitely:
a) a pedofile
b) a killer of tiny puppies

After he went into his meeting, I pulled out a wonderful chocolate croissant from Alliance for breakfast. Finally! A moment of peace! Then a coworker asks me what I'm eating that smells so wonderful. I tell her. She says, That's really, really bad for you.

In better news, I walked all the way in to work today. BOO YAH!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really starting to think only people who grew up or lived for a long period of time in the upper midwest appreciate PHC and, by extention, Keillor himself. No, I don't think Ohio counts as upper midwest. I don't understand the hate the show stirs in some people (example - the noise bored Keillor thread)... but so it goes.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

There are a lot of liberals on ILX who go out of their way not to be like those kind of liberals.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

SARAH I KNEW THAT POST WAS GOING TO BE FROM YOU because there's something particularly "Sarah" about old men being wacko-smacko to you. It would never happen to Jenny, and if it happened to Amanda it would just be...different.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Not only does the sound of his near-choking voice bother me, I think part of it might be how it reminds me of the times when I would be trying to talk to my parents in the car, trying to tell them something about my life or my day or me or whatever and my dad would just turn up PHC louder and louder so it drowned me out and he "could hear it." That pissed me off big time.

Old men don't do that to me either. I mean there's a pervy teacher at school whose room is next to mine but he doesn't cross lines like that dude!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I know most of the entertainment I get out of PHC is from the specifics of Minnesota, both geographical and psychological. Some of it, and sometimes a lot of it, can make me cringe, but in a hometown way. The stories can be brilliant and unpredictible sometimes - but not if you can't stand his voice, 'course.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Prairie Home Companion is one of my very earliest radio memories. I remember it being on while my dad made dinner in the one-story house we lived in up until I was 6. Keillor's voice is hilarious to me, just like Morrissey's.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday I was walking to the train with headphones/sunglasses on and a little man started walking next to me and he said, "Hello! Good morning!" and I just looked at him, because that was a little over-friendly for what was clearly a morning commute situation. And he kept walking next to me, like we were walking together, and I slowed down and he did and I sped up and he did, and then when I turned into the El station, he said, "Okay! Goodbye! See you later!" and I said, "Quite fucking talking to me!" And then I spent all day worrying that I actually knew him and didn't recognize him, which would mean that rather than being an assertive woman who's not afraid to defend her boundaries from weirdos in the street, I am a cold hard horrible bitch.

Anyway, Laurel is right. Sarah's story wouldn't happen to me. All my creepy old man stories involve the train in some way.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

See, your dad didn't use GK to make you stop talking. PLEASE TO CLONE JAYMC'S DAD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny that story made me larf.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

When I was a kid, I liked parts of PHC (which seemd to always be on in the car) and other parts really irritated me. I have a hunch that those parts are reversed now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, i'm not *that* old and this is twice you haven't recognized me on the train.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Morrisey/Keillor comparison is a good one because both get called maudlin when they're simoultaneously parodying themselves and going for the heart - and their stage voices manifest this. It's not a Simpsons/Seinfeld-like situation of either-you're-in-on-the-joke-or-you-are-the-joke, either-you're-naive-or-ironic, it's both at once.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I shaved off my beard last night. It was a wild time in that bathroom sink. Now I will not shave again until the 4th of July.

SO LET IT BE WRITTEN, SO LET IT BE DONE.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Good point, Eazy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

This is weird, but I just realized that whenever I think of Amanda's dad I picture Peter Gallagher for some reason.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

i picture red forman.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I pictured Dave Foley.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

note: i'd never pictured him before until john's post about picturing him.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha none of you are very close to the mark, though peter gallagher is closer. i know jaymc has googled my dad because he told me so!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

SO SAY WE ALL.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

i know jaymc has googled my dad because he told me so!

is that what the kids are calling it these days?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I just googled him again. I don't really know who he looks like. He's sort of nondescript.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, i'm not *that* old and this is twice you haven't recognized me on the train.

BAHAHAHAHA. Way to find an opening, Kevin.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Way to find an opening, Kevin.

is that what the... oh nevermind.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't an insult!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Too easy, work a little harder for it next time. XXP.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've also googled Dan's dad, btw.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Just don't insult my momma and we cool.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

i know it was easy but sometimes you just have to throw yr load in.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Another reason I'm bummed I can't make karaoke is that I haven't seen you in ages, Amanda, and I feel like there's friction between us sometimes that a little face time would smooth over.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sending you drunk txts anymore if you're going to quote me in broad daylight.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

John, did you find him?

Googling my dad turns up some funny results... But he is actually in this pic:

http://www.social.mtu.edu/faculty/Scarlett/Summer/images/WPFGroup2004.jpg

On the right in the back, with dark tshirt and hat.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I found a photo of him with a goatee -- that's him, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. That goatee always made me laugh.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sending you drunk txts anymore if you're going to quote me in broad daylight.

sorry 'bout that. your drunk txts are much more coherent than mine.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like there's friction between us sometimes that a little face time would smooth over.
Don't worry -- we cool.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Jack_Cunningham.jpg

John is your dad a member of Britishes Parliament?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

PS NO COMMENT ON "FRICTION"

Ew! YOU GROSS.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Yup. I mean, no. I don't think my dad has any pictures on the Interweb.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

a google search of my dad turns up nothing.
a google search of his only son turns up a lot of stuff on a different guy who lives in the same state i used to live in and works for the same branch of the federal gvt that i work for now. this dude apparently likes beer and classic rock.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.randomhouse.com/broadway/blackink/art/MichaelCunningham.jpg http://heatherconley.com/M_Cunningham2_web.jpg

Michael Cunningham, Michael Cunningham

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/1/35392_b7205f8d85_m.jpg

Michael Cunningham

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Note: That is my bro.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Thankfully, my parents do not appear on the internets.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

There used to be an old photo of either my mom or dad (I can't remember) in a play from like 1969 on the website of the school my dad teaches at. It was the play in which my parents met.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

May as well be equitable...

http://www.social.mtu.edu/IA/IAWeb/zimages/srmartin.gif

Susan Martin

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

My mom does! bayhealth.org/ media/ newsDetail.asp? nID=66

No pic, though.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

My stepfather is the first google result for his name, but my biofather has too common a name. Which is kind of weird, because I don't think it's that common.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Mom:
hxxp://www.ishmpr.org/conference/2005_fall/fall2005.pdf

Dad:
hxxp://rs6000.cs.lewisu.edu/~wielgoch/english/faculty.htm

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am not Catholic but I find this interesting and maybe you language wonks will, too:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0606150149jun15,1,3161788.story?coll=chi-news-hed

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Huh.

Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.

Weird.

I'd be a bit sad if these changes were implemented, but only because the memory of the ritualistic call-and-response is one of the only things that keeps my heart close to the Church.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc otm. it's been decades since i was a regular church goer but i'm sure i could still get through an hour of catholic mass just based on it being drilled into my head so much as a kid.

(just did a mental check to see if i still knew the our father, hail mary, and nicene creed. yep, still in my dome)

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

another thread killed by catholocism.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

My computer was killed by some VLSI (Very Large Shitty Images) submitted by a n00b author. Then it was killed again. Stupid images making me work and unable to post nonsense.

I'm not Catholic. I'm also not Protestant, Jewish, Hindu, Taoist, Zoroastrian, or a Moonie.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

So you follow the teachings of Sri Chinmoy?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm antsy. I want to do something fun, like get a pedicure or drink an elaborate coffee drink outside or go camping for a couple days.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS GODDAMN OFFICE.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I want to do that, too.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. In one hour I will be getting out of this office. Until tomorrow.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, would you be willing to call my office and pretend to be my sister and claim a family emergency to get me out of the office for the rest of today and tomorrow? i'll buy you, like, a pitcher of beer at the cove saturday if you're successful.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and i may be bringing a friend saturday.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Jenny: I had to look him up... he looks kind of awesome though.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh that reminds me, I am bringing a friend on Sat. too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I may also be bringing associates on Saturday.

xpost: IT'S GONNA BE A PARTAY!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, you know her -- it's Laaaaaaaura. Top Model Extraordinaire. I think Nick and John have met her as well. She's super, although she may not sing.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out that two weeks from tomorrow I've got a gig in ITALY, dawg.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, Kevin. I'll say, "Our mother has chained herself to her local parish office to protest the pending liturgical changes and refuses to speak with anyone except her son Otto or the pope himself! You must let him leave work! It's a family emergency"

xposts: Dan, that's the dude that owns V1ct0ry's Banner. We were there last weekend and they were playing a tape of Sri lifting planes and elephans and cars.

I'm not bringing anybody to karaoke, but I'm going to enjoy making lots of new friends.

Jordan!!! That is fucking AWESOME!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Dang, Jordan that sounds like FUNZONE. Italy!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I hate to break it to you, but this doesn't exactly count:

http://www.nekoosa.org/dbimages/romelogo.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://condor.depaul.edu/~mfiddler/hyphen/einstein.gif

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

jenny you're the tops but i just realized everyone here knows i don't have any family out here. i should get a dog so one of you can claim to be my upstairs neighbor and claim said pup got out and has been hit by a car.

next week maybe.

and my friend will probably bail on me before saturday rolls around anyway. she's like that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Are we meeting at the H.C., or is there tailgating or something beforehand?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

i'm thinking about taking in the blacks, the bellrays, and the ponys (bailing on the black keys, thanks) at the taste of randolph st before hand then having a public servant or two (or three!) haul my drunk ass up to the cove.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I'm going to a restaurant that I last visited on September 14, 2001. I met my parents there because it was my mom's birthday, and then my brother and I went over to K4tie Br0wn's place to hang out later, maybe had some wine or something. I was carrying around a copy of A.S. Byatt's Possession all night.

Something else happened that week -- I don't remember what.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see Bottomless Pit. We had other plans last night.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

RE: SATURDAY I have contemplated eating dinner at a restaurant but it depends on what my friend wants to do. Anyone want to meet at Edgewater Tavern, then walk down to Foster to catch the bus that will take us to Lincoln? It's all very complicated but I sure as hell am NOT driving.

Sit on that for a while while I go to class. Hasta luego, homiez.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wtf is Bottomless Pit, and why were all of you either at the show or wanted to be? Why the eff were O'Rourke and Albini in the house?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

silkworm remnants.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, John.

I leave for Nazigoldland a week from today, but there is a gig on the schedule in Varese, Italy. CAN'T WAIT. I was in Italy for 2 hours and 15 minutes last year, which is great and all, but it would be nice to spend a whole day.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Bottomless Pit were sweet. I loved the baritone guitar.

It was really kind of creepy, though (not in a bad way) thinking about how many or what elements of the tunes were about M. Dahlquist. Still so sad.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ashkenatz deli, bitchez.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

The BP show definitely seemed to be explicitly a song cycle about MD - I couldn't catch the lyrics on all of the songs, but the ones I did were literally (literally!) about the crash and the aftereffects and also memorializing MD - from this show, it seems as if the band only exists under this name for this batch of songs: it's that much of a single piece of work. (Some of the E1ectrical guys are my friends, and thanks to Dan's posting here I went to the show right after getting home at 9 last night.)

The songs have an interesting combination of skwm-like catchy chord progressions combined with these lyrics that are painful in their specificity and Tim M. on guitar (looked to my untrained eye like a Travis Bean) playing some discordant but not noisy parts - capturing mourning and pain in ways that were subtler than just brute force.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I could punish some Ashkenaz right now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/50/146953507_e3e9879d93.jpg?v=0

I was in Ashkenaz with a couple friends and we tried to come up with as many interpretive readings of this sign as possible.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I learned the other day that chub is a kind of salmon, but I suspect it has another deli-specific meaning.

I just found out that C4n4st4 is going to be on a local Cleveland morning news show on Sunday -- like an on-location shoot at the HOF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

but I suspect it has another deli-specific meaning.

Yes, they are (smoked fish).

Soooo good.

Soooo goood.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

What's the HOF?

I want to have a video shot at HOR, House on the Rock.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

What's the HOF?

the House of Frankfurters, it's a chain in the buckeye/keystone states.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

The Rock And/Or Roll Hall of Fizzame.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Are you sure it's not the House of Falafel?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm finding this page about rib cuts & styles very educational. I think we're going out for BBQ tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm feeling strange and different. I'm doing well at this job so far, setting the expectations fairly high, and all that. I can do this, and I can even enjoy doing this. What's weird is that I feel like I somehow fell ass-backwards into this job, like it was all some big accident, when in fact I did what everybody does -- applied, interviewed, and got hired. I don't know why I should feel strange about it. It just happened so fast. And the other new feeling is that they really want me to be there for a while -- you do freelance stuff long enough, you forget what it's like to be treated like an employee, to be handed office supplies and tax forms and benefits papers, to be expected to stick around.

My computers came today. Yes, two of them. Allow me to indulge myself by describing what was on the palette. 1) A Dual 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 with an upgrade to 2GB of RAM and a 250 GB hard drive. 2) A 23-inch Cinema HD monitor. 3) An HP Pavilion, 2.8 GHz Pentium D processor, similar hardware specs all around. (For some reason, I have 2 computers that can burn DVDs.) 4) A 19" Sony flatscreen monitor. 5) Adobe CS2 Premium for Mac. 6) Macromedia Studio 8 for both Mac and PC (that means there's two copies of it, even though Studio 8 installs on either computer. They're not taking any risks with registering software properly). 7) Some kind of unidentifiable office supplies that I did not ask for, but they thought I might enjoy. That will be a surprise, I guess.

I feel like Miss America. No, no, I want to say, this is too much. But that's balanced by feeling like Mr. Responsibility, because the boss is a pretty hard-ass "get it done yesterday" kind of guy, and they wouldn't buy me all this shit if they only expected me to play with it. I feel like... holy shit, I think I got a real job. How the hell did that happen?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Why am I listening to Leonard Cohen? This isn't the time for Leonard Cohen! I need some reggae or Prince or party fuck music or something. I should strip down to my underwear and dance around. But I'm too befuddled.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's time for Gregory Abbott.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Shake yourself down.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Congrats, by the way!! It's always a nice surprise when people start treating us like we want to be treated. A revelation, even.

Hey, I have two more friends who say that they're coming to karaoke night. They may or may not flake on me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

One more thing: yesterday I heard my boss Arnold talking loudly to someone else about how someone had pissed him off by giving him too many lame excuses and acting generally impotent in the face of a deadline. I felt like it was directly analagous to my overhearing at my last job, on my second day, my boss talking to someone about how I wasn't really needed at all. See, this is much, much preferable. I'd rather be expected to perform and push myself than expected to go the hell away. This is a MUCH better feeling, and I'll be MUCH better at this job.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

weh-oh-weh

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I have had a long day.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, fine, I'll listen to that song. Goddamnit, you win again.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

Girrrl, I've been watchin' youuu.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

You're right. This is making me smile real big.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahaha i'm glad you picked up on gregory abbott's telepathy.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

Next up: The Oogum Boogum Song by Benton Wood.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

Brenton. Whatever.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

My itunes went straight from Gregory to Grifters. Not really what I was looking for. Oh well, I should be doing homework anyway.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

nothing wrong with the grifters.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

No, that was a conscious choice on my part. I think I may pull out my favorite boxed set.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

(still not doing homework) Nothing wrong with the grifters except sometimes painful memories.

GUESS WHAT i just ate.

ok, i tell you.

combos.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

fuck i want some combos. i made myself some sausage patties, toast, and yogurt for dinner. then i ate another 80 lbs. of hummus. i need some coffee or a nap or something.

fuck i wish it were friday now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

You're too angry.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you're one to talk.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

;)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

kenan, if you're talking to me you're way off base. i don't have the energy for anger. i can't even simmer right now. if anything i'm resigned.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

resigned to eating copious amounts of combos, that's what.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

i gotta remember to put combos on my grocery list. bread, oj, potatoes, garlic, COMBOS.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

omg they are so good. worth the $1.99 for the big bag. although, i'll tell you, i can't find them everywhere. convenience store: yes. dominick's: no.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i will bring some for karaoke fuel.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

i'm half tempted to run out to the moonlight mart before they close to grab a bag. but that place is pretty sketch, don't know if they'd have them.

i am going to be drunk by the time you show up for karaoke.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

that's exactly who WILL have them. combos hide in the darkest corners.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

yes, combos truly are the cockroach of foodstuffs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

well, be prepared to eat some combos on saturday. i'm outta here. get some sleep, chicago.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going outside for one more cigarette. and if i have any tonic water i'm making a cocktail.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you're one to talk.

Oh, I know. I simmer always, and I often boil. I'm an angry little dude.

Hey, speaking of boiling, wear something skimpy tomorrow. It's gonna be a hot summbitch.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

and if i have any tonic water i'm making a cocktail.

And if not you're drinking vodka. I've been there.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of boiling hot, I just posted the title sequence to Beyond the Valley of the Dolls to nuestro blog just now. I particularly like the military-sounding drums in the beginning.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have the most horrible shorts in the world that I may just have to break out tomorrow. White base with blue, brown, and orange plaid pattern. Golf-o-riffic! I don't think they're even ironically ugly. Just ugly.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Good lord, that's a brilliant movie.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost Don't wear shorts. No man should wear shorts unless he's doing something that will make his legs sweat. More than normal, I mean.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, for me that's walking around in the summer.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Also how else am I supposed to show off my calves?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Now that we are grown men, linen trousers.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck all yall, if I don't wear shorts I would chop my legs off.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 16 June 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dan's right, and it doesn't even have to be walking around. It could be sitting quitely trying not to make any extra movements and then holy shit why am I still pouring sweat.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 16 June 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

Shorts all the way.

I'm going on a breakfast date with Sayjal. I don't know what's becoming of my life that I'm doing social shit at hours when even God is still asleep.

WRT Tonight: Let's eat some cheap dinner where there are drinks. Fiesta Mexicana on Broadway? Something like that. So far interested parties include: Y'all, Robin, a couple of co-workers whom y'all would like.

(My use of the word "y'all" was not a conscious ref. to going to Dixie, but now I wonder....)

Anyway, we could grab some dinner and then if we still had interest, kick it over at the Green Mill.

Alternative plans will be entertained.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Last night is a blur. I went to the rally/picket in front of the Congress Hotel (THE CONGRESS IS DEAD! THE CONGRESS IS DEAD!) went home at 7, cooked up some short ribs and a baked potato, ate that with a (very low dose) Xanax, and sat down to watch some MTV2 (which I didn't know I had). I saw 1 Kanye video and woke up at 11.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

Dan and Jeff are right: shorts are essential for my survival, and I have great calves which the world should get a chance to take a gander at.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Fiesta Mexicana idea.

Personally? I dislike shorts on grownups. And white tennis shoes. And especially shorts and white tennis shoes. But I understand necessity and comfort so I don't judge or hold the wearing of either of those items against anybody.

Except this guy. I hold wearing white tennis shoes against this guy. But then again, I hold BREATHING against this guy.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

i don't wear shorts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I love all you guys -- it just seems like a particularly amusing morning on ChILX and you're all being so YOU-ish and I really shouldn't be professing my love except under the influence of about half a bottle of vodka but fuck it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

ON THE RECORD: I have absolutely no issue with men wearing shorts. I even sort of think they're cute if the man's legs are nice. I like people to be who they are, and if that means wearing shorts, it is immeasurably preferable to being inauthentic.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Much love back atcha, Laurel.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, why do i bother ironing my shirts? for the 3 minutes i wear it in the morning before i sling my bag over my shoulder? waste of time.

is laurel on ecstacy?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

I like to pretend I don't approve of shorts on men (I don't like them on me, either, for the record) but the disapproval is more of a precaution against people wearing them BADLY and god knows I have a massive weakness for bike boys in, say, incredibly worn cut-offs so YMMV.

I'm on something. It's disgusting.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

laurel is high on anticipation.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like shorts on me either, although I could entertain the possibility of wearing a nice pair of shorty dress shorts with my new wedge sandals. But that would require showing a LOT of thigh, which I'm not sure is a wise idea. My legs look like uncooked baguettes.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

If I could pull off wearing a skirt or a sun dress, I probably would.

But seriously, I never heard much hate for shorts before I moved to this city. I mean I get the "little boys in short pants" thing, but damn, if it's 90, 95, 104 fucking degrees out -- who can be concerned with fashion or looking "grown up?"

Comfort is king. I'm going to wear shorts today, and probably tomorrow too.

Now, tucking a shirt into shorts... that I'll never do.

xpost: My legs are about the same shade of alabaster, but there's only one way to change that.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

SELF-TANNER.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

girls in shorts are trumped only by girls in skirts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: My legs are about the same shade of alabaster, but there's only one way to change that.

ditto, i'm so white i'm almost translucent.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Thug love to you too, Laurel. And good to meet ye finally for a bit, for sure.

Yes, Amanda, let everyone be, let the short-wearers wear shorts, for who among us is not occasionally one of them, and perhaps they know the secret of unselfconsciousness and hot-weather comfort. Maybe today I'll wear some shorts in their honor and because my place is already heating up.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Almost translucent? I'm purple. I'm like Mrs Goodbody.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

My legs look like uncooked baguettes.

ha mine too!

shorts suck. i can never find any that look anything less than ridiculous, so i wear skirts all summer.

shorts can be okay on people, i agree, but of course it depends on the person. they look really stupid on me.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

i was hanging out on the couch with my roommate last night, with my legs across the couch, and got a glimpse of my foot, which somehow in its weird position looked like it could have been one of her hands, and thought, wow, that's PALE. and then realized that it was my very own foot. i be PASTY.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

i'm goodbody-ish too in that i'm so skinny you can see veins and shit just beneath my skin. watch for it tomorrow night, after i have too many beverages and i start to get dehydrated the veins on my arms will stick out like ropes. it's not a good look.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand this "goodbody" reference. Sorry to get all JMZ on yo' asses but....

Eric, a pleasure!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

slim goodbody

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/06/347a.jpg/180px-347a.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

also, recommendation for all you vegetarian kids (or those who like alice and friends): spicy bbq. i just had my leftovers for breakfast, and the stuff is great.

ugh, i get purpleness too, when it's warm my blood pools in my feet and they go purplered when i'm upright. suxor.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

You can totally see my intestines too.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I only have a bone in my left leg. My right leg is just muscle.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

you can totally count my ribs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

i just noticed that slim and i have the same hair pretty much.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

i would like to have some muscles. i seem to have misplaced mine.

i was shopping online for a little cord i need for my computer to connect the whozit and the whatzit and create magics. a little 2 dollar contraption.

and got to looking around the site and deciding that it is imperative that i purchase an external hd and some sort of mp3 player and oooo i am going from thinking about a very inexpensive purchase to, well, a much more exciting one. i have new headphones that i am very pleased with. they need to be attached to something AWESOME.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

My legs are gross, but I wear skirts anyway. First, the bones are screwed up and my hips aren't aligned, so they bend and poke out in all the wrong ways. Second, they are white white white, but only in tiny parts. Mostly, they are vericose veins and bruises and dry patches on the knees. My legs everyone! TA DA!

I only wear shorts to work out and even then hardly ever. I wear skirts & dresses all summer long.

Nick wore shorts to work out the other day and he was smokin'. He NEVER wears shorts EVER EVER. He looked like a soccer player. Mmm... soccer players...

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, Chicago.

I don't wear shorts out, but I've been wearning them around the house clothes at night ('cause it be HOT).

Part of my problem with shorts is that they demand appropriate shoes and socks -- I usually wear black shoes and my ratio of white to black socks is at least 10/1. I still don't know whether I'm going to pack shorts for Switzerland, 'cause that means my tennis shoes hogging precious space in my tiny suitcase (which I have to fit 2 weeks of clothes in! I don't even HAVE 2 weeks of clothes!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Boys in Umbros are HOT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Boys in Umbros are HOT.

i can explode that myth.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Gross? S., you can't go around having your photo taken in the conservatory and then say things like that, or people will call you a liar.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan OTM about the sock/shoe problem with shorts. This never used to be an issue, but that was back when the vast majority of my socks were white tube socks. Now I think I only have two or three pairs of white socks. At least I have appropriate shoes now. I think the only day I wore shorts in public last year was the second day of Intonation, because it was really hot outside. But I also think that people who say that men should never wear shorts are too indie for their own good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda is right, of course, about people who don't front being the best kind of people, shorts or no. And I'm not being indie! I'm being urbane. And Jeff wears shorts all the time and I will admit I like to feel on his legs when they are so easily accessible.

Jordan, David Sedaris would be very upset if you wore tennis shoes on a trip abroad.

I'm not usually one to marvel at the oddity of spam, but this one was really something else:

A big one! abutted barefoot William Faulkner?
They looked to him about as they had when he had first seen them — although he had been looking at them through a haze of pain and could not be completely sure but he knew that the piles of boxes might not be as random as they had looked, oh, not at all. in the shed. Some fell to the floor and shattered. Are you curious about how that might sound? Gee, I can hardly believe it! He rolled into the hall and then stopped as a terrible thought struck him: if the bathroom floor had been slightly damp, or even a bit dirty — He stared at it, and for a moment the idea that he must have left tracks on those clean white tiles was so persuasive that he actually saw them. "I'm going to stick a note through one of the links in the fence,»she said slowly, re-gathering her thoughts. chevron

It's the "chevron" at the end that throws me.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

you can see veins and shit just beneath my skin

Are they translucent blue like Alexis Bledel's forehead?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I once had a rule that I would never date a girl who wore tennis shoes as her primary footwear.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Urbane" = yeah, that makes more sense. I'm guessing that's the root of Kenan's position, too. And my brother's (who hasn't weighed in, but I guess he would say the same thing).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

yep.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not indie at all! And I don't think men shouldn't wear shorts, just that I shouldn't.

xpost, URBANE, that is the word exactly.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Jaymc in being fussy about women's footwear SHOCKA ;)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Once, John? What changed your mind?

I am doomed to have veins above the skin like my dad's mom did. It was so creepy because I always fretted she would get one hung on something when she walked down the hall. EEP!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, David Sedaris would be very upset if you wore tennis shoes on a trip abroad.

O rly, what's he say? I could use some justification.

xpost GROSS

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Also Laurel is right about it being how people wear shorts. Jeff has some plaid shorts that he was rocking with a hoodie and the hat Kenan left at our house (also plaid) and while that sounds like a homeless person's ensamble, it really worked. But then he has these over-designed weird ass shorts with wee little flap-pockets on the belt loops, like four of them, that make no sense whatsoever because even if you were going to put condoms or change or matchbooks in them, you would invariably forget what you put where and run your stuff through the wash plus there are other pockets all over the place, like four cargo pockets per leg, and as a result they are really heavy, leading me to believe that they aren't that much cooler than lighter pants not quite so festooned with pockets would be and that any sweat that results while wearing those shorts is from carrying them on your body. Those shorts are no good.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

the only dating rule i ever had was when i was in high school and wouldn't date anyone who wasn't on the planet for this country's bicentennial. but that was more designed to keep me out of jail than anything else. this rule has since fallen by the wayside.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Once, John? What changed your mind?

I became an adult? (Which is to say, less preoccupied with consumer choices as markers of identity.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

My dad has varicose veins and my mom has spider veins. Looking forward to that!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've got men on my mind today.
Who's cuter?

Chief from Battlestar Gallactica:
http://us.tv1.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/sci_fi/battlestar_galactica_photos/aaron_douglas/bsg.jpg

Or a late-30-something Bob Hope:
http://bobhope.com/graphics/radiolg.jpg

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah's grandma:

http://www.globalyogajourneys.com/Global/Assets/Original%20Images/muscleDiagram.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I can't remember the book or the essay, but he says something about how US tourists in white tennis shoes look like they travelled abroad to cut the lawn.

xpost: I too afraid of both men's jaws to pick a favorite.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently, Mark Ruffalo doesn't photograph well. Many of the pix I found of him were disturbing, like this one:
http://a330.g.akamai.net/7/330/2540/20010606035709/www.variety.com/graphics/photos/mugr/ruffalo_mark.jpg

Ooh! Spider veins! I DEFINITELY have those. They rule.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

B-but, Jenny! Their jaws will protect you from the bad guys!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

That's not a pic of Ruffalo, that's a pic of a cop in Broward County, Florida.

Also:

HAPPY BLOOMSDAY EVERYONE

http://halfass.com/images/joyce.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Chief looks like a butch Pacey.

The pattern on Hope's jacket is pretty amazing.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I can def see a Mark Ruffalo/Josh Jackson resemblance.

But I don't know what Sarah is talking about -- there are lots of hot photos of Ruffalo online:

http://www.weltimkino.de/medien/images/thumbnails/3824_160.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Will someone tell me if this guy is gay so I can either let him go or continue to watch bad movies just because he happens to be in them for even 10 minutes? For some reason, I think he might be gay, and if he is, he is still hott but I'll leave him alone.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) He's got a really great combination of rugged masculinity and lost-little-boy vulnerability.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, okay, one more thing on the shorts. If you want to wear shorts, that's cool, but if you happen to be in a band, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE PUT SOME PANTS ON BEFORE YOU PLAY THE GIG. I don't care if it's a summer festival.

No pants, no credibility.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

The David Sedaris story is Picka Pocketoni from Me Talk Pretty One Day.

Bloomsday! I have a crystal clear memory of driving in Greensboro NC two years ago in the rain on the way home from a longish trip by myself, being proud that was able to find my way to our house without getting lost after taking an exit I didn't usually take, listening to a program on NPR about Bloomsday, which I had never heard of until that day. And hadn't thought about at all until Just Now.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

What would be some good snacks to bring to Ravinia tonight? Besides wine? I was sort of thinking about going all out and doing the brie-and-baguette thing, but does anyone have any better suggestions? Beignets, in honor of the N.O. musicians? (Well, I guess it should be something that we could get at Whole Foods.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) When Kr and I first started dating, she told me her birthday was June 16, and I was like, "Oh wait, that's..." but couldn't for the life of me remember what it was. I kept saying, "That's a very resonant date." Then, that night, literally as soon as put my head down on the pillow to go to sleep, it came to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

CHIEF TYRRELL, ALL THE WAY. He's not my absolute favorite person on the show or anything (that wd be Starbuck, OBV) but I don't like smarmy, Bryl-creamed Bob Hope.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Seafood/CrawfishBoil3.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

"That's a very resonant date." OMG who SAYS that?? J/k, John, you know I love.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://gambinos.info/images/muffaletta.gif

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ben Chaplin is also hot. Also, that pic of Mark R is hot. I must have been looking in all the wrong places.

Bryl cream is pretty gross. Do you think he was really smarmy?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and of course, Happy Birthday, KR!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I had a muffaletta from Cosi yesterday. Their muffalettas are nothing special, to be sure, but yesterday's was actually kinda gross. I could barely taste the cheese, the olive salad was overwhelming, and the eggplant was just kinda thrown on there, instead of soaking up the other flavors.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

RUFFALO MUFFALETTA RUFFALO MUFFALETTA RUFFALO MUFFALETTA

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

BUFFALO MOZZARELLA

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ruffalo's acting on Broadway these days.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

KOFTA MASALA

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

HUGH MASEKELA

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

FREE MUMIA

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/images/live/96/191784.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Where does one buy kumquats? I've been wanting more even since we had them at your party, Eric.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

you can get kumquats at whole foods. but unless i'm mistaken they're usually in season in the winter, you'll probably have to pay a premium (even by WFM standards) if they have any.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

:-(
I'm about to have a sliced up plum and nectarine combo.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming that's Lauren Ambrose next to Ruffalo in Awake and Sing?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Their jaws will protect you from the bad guys!

Bob Hope will not protect you from the bad guys. He will sell you into slavery in Morocco and crack wise about it.

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

i've still got a combo jones that won't quit.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Can it hold til Saturday? I'm going downstairs to the convenience store (they carry large bags) to buy them today -- nacho!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mrd-music.de/material/cd/300/PFCKilohertz300.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Who's that guy?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea. I just googled "combo."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'm on a quest for combos today. i'll hit the white hen on damen and if it's not there i'll go to the moonlight mart. if it's not there i'll start hitting the mom & pops on western.

man on a mission,
ktr

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Which reminds me...

Oh, and of course, Happy Birthday, KR!

...the second "r" should be lower-case. Otherwise Kevin will think we're talking about him. If ya gotta monogram it, KEB will do.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I still always think of her as Krypton, thanks to your abbreviations.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

S., Casey D. got the kumquats from the Dominick's on Western/Roscoe - I've been wanting to get more of those, too.

They'd be good Ravinia food, too - as would hummus and the rest.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

And olives!

Nick and I are probably going to taste Randolph street too, BTW.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

(Tomorrow though, not tonight)

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Which reminds me...
Oh, and of course, Happy Birthday, KR!

...the second "r" should be lower-case. Otherwise Kevin will think we're talking about him.

yes, because I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN MY OWN BIRTHDAY IS.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

i'm still on the fence about taste of randolph, i know i'll bail before the black keys and it's gonna be really hot so i'll see how hungover i am before making a decision. if i go i hope to run into you guys though!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hitting up Randolph tonight with some homiez.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hangin' with my homiez Junior and Carl tonight.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://ie66ers.com.ismmedia.com/ISM2/SponsorManager/57.jpeg.300.jpeg

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

They are truly my homeboys.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

awesome:

Woman arrested after stopping bus, slapping driver

Associated Press
Published June 16, 2006, 7:02 AM CDT

MERRILLVILLE, Ind. -- A 21-year-old Gary woman pulled her car in front of a public bus, got on and slapped the driver because she thought he was following her, police said.

Linder Reid faces battery and public intoxication charges in Merrillville Town Court, city police Lt. Don Toth said.

Reid told a police officer she was upset with the Gary Public Transportation Corp. bus driver because he began following her at an intersection late Wednesday.

The 53-year-old bus driver told police Reid had been driving next to him and was shouting obscenities at him. He said she sped forward and pulled her car in front of the bus, causing him to stop.

Linder then tried to hit the driver through the bus window, Toth said, and eventually entered the stopped bus. She slapped the driver hard enough to knock his glasses off, Toth said. She reportedly picked up the driver's glasses and threw them out the window, causing them to break.

The driver refused medical treatment, Toth said.

Toth said the driver told the woman, "Buses do travel up and down Broadway."

Reid was taken to the Lake County Jail. She did not have a phone number listed in Gary.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha way to go LINDER.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Hugh Maskela at Jazzfest. It was pretty good, and his stage patter was HILARIOUS.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

"Toth said the driver told the woman, "Buses do travel up and down Broadway."

classic.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

AWESOME.

Ok- Head count! Who is going to the Pitchfork fest? Which days? Nick and I will be going. For those who missed it last year, I will probably be getting heat stroke again. It's very dramatic!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be going if we're not on tour that weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also, we're going both days.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure, maybe just one day. It doesn't seem like it has nearly as good a lineup as last year, at least to me.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I can't even remember when it is. But I have tickets for both days because my dear old friends are coming in from out of town.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

i am (at least i hope to go).. last yr i bought tickets and did not go cause of the stupid bar exam. mmm mountain goats and the national

― renen (renen), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think we got tickets, but I can't remember which days. We went both days last year and had lots of fun drinking warm whiskey with Kenan and watching Sarah get heat stroke and playing Uno with Dan and Amanda.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

When is it? I forget. Is it supposed to be as disgustingly hot this year as last?

Also! I thought of this when Jordan said musicians should never wear shorts on stage. The singer for the Go Team! wore JEANS, like tight jeans, last year in 100+ degree weather and danced around and I was worried she was going to pass out and die like Sarah did.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

july 29 and 30

― renen (renen), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Sara of Tegan & Sara passed out at Lollapalooza last year. I believe it was even hotter than Intonation that day.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sara(h)s need to take special care in the heat.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

ATTN Jocelyn: I am listening to an album I think you might like.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to The Chronic. Welcome back to 9th grade, Dan.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

i think i was 20 when that came out.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I've got the tickets, so it's official. I'm most excited about seeing Futureheads, Spank Rock, and Os Mutantes right this second. I think I should carry in a huge case of bottled waters this time.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Will someone take me on a date to see Lake House or Brick? I can't afford it, and I'm not married yet. BOOO HOO. Oh, BOO HOO. WAH WAH WAH.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Is there anything fun in Cincinatti? My sister will be there for work in July for a couple of weeks. I was thinking of making a long weekend of it.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Sarah, how are you?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm fine, thanks. How did you know my name?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

FRACK! You're a COPY! I'm a CYLON!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

i am emailing you, cylon sarah.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to old-skool jungle.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

i've got c0c0c0ma on the ipod. just changed to mind controls, nevermind.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

What time is the singin' tomorrow? I don't feel like combing though the thread at the moment.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

i figure i'll be there around 8:30 or 9, i won't be singing though.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah me either.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

me: ok hold up, i was looking at a cast list of "l.a. law" -- what on earth was the role of benny on that show?
Renee: he was the special cast member.
me: i mean was he related to one of the other characters? or did they just drag the retard into the courtroom for laffs?
Renee: i think he had downs or was just disabled. i think he just worked there. not sure why/how he got the job.
me: was he a lawyer???
Renee: he married though a normal person on the show and htey had a kid
no he wsa like the copy guy.
me: and then he became dr. giggles
Renee: yeah exactly

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

he was corbin bernsen's special project wasn't he? like the mail guy at the office or something?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i looked it up on wikipedia:

Benny was a developmentally disabled man who first came into the show when he was ordered to rob a shop, which he immediately did. Because of his mental impairment and a trusting nature, he was at the mercy of unscrupulous people. Benny was then offered a job at McKenzie Brackman (the firm featured in L.A. Law) as a messenger, delivering mail between court and the firm and working in the office organising files and case studies. Later, he had a steady girlfriend, also with a disability, played by Amanda Plummer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

"when he was ordered to rob a shop" = by whom??

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

yeahyeah -- 8:30-9pm.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

"when he was ordered to rob a shop" = by whom??

"unscrupulous people"

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

i just snort-laffed so loud that i think people across the floor heard me. my nose rattled.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason Benny is makin' me LOL

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

john: what made you think of this?
and was i talking to you recently about the la law character that fell down an elevator shaft?

― renen (renen), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

the past couple days i've been shaving with a new (to me) brand of mug soap and this shit drys my face out so f'ing bad that it feels like my upper lip area is cracking. it's painful and i didn't even shave today. i've got to get some shaving cream on the way home and chuck that whack-assed mug soap.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

36 MINUTES CHICAGO, I'M A FREE MAN IN 36 MINUTES!!!

come to the sub-t and buy me lots of drinks.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

(xp to renee) maybe, because i was thinking about that episode for some reason recently!!

okay totally weird mental segue: you said something about the "ac" in your home, and it made me think of ac newman (of the new pornographers), and also ac green (of the l.a. lakers), and also ac slater (of "saved by the bell"). and then i thought, wasn't there someone on "l.a. law" named ac? so i looked up the cast list, and actually no, her name was cj. (the amanda donohoe character, that is.)

but which led me to benny.

i used to play along to the "l.a. law" theme song on my clarinet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die." -- Mel Brooks

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

don't think i have ever watched an ep of la law. you were an interesting kid.

― renen (renen), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

ac newman= pornographer
ac green= noted virgin
ac slater= noted rapist

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

rapist?

― renen (renen), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

My mom was a big L.A. Law fan. I didn't really watch it obsessively, but it was always just on -- and esp. since it was after Cosby Show and Cheers, IIRC.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

"Comedy equals tragedy plus time"

― renen (renen), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea about A.C. Green.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

excuse me, noted ALLEGED rapist. settled out of court on a date rape charge.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

ac green has the strongest will of any man to walk the earth in the last 500 years. have you ever seen the, uh, "talent" that hangs around an NBA bench?

it's like they're not even the same species as me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Argh. So a week and a half ago, I ordered a book from Amazon as a birthday gift for Kr. At the beginning of this week, I got a notice that it had shipped, but it said "Estimated Delivery Date: July 8, 2006." I was like, wtf, "JULY"? So I went to Borders over lunch yesterday and bought the book there and figured I'd just try to sell the Amazon copy to, like, Myopic or something. Well, guess what just came in the mail at work?

I wonder if I can return the Borders copy. It's still in the bag with the receipt and everything.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yes you can return the Borders copy that is still in the bag with the receipt and everything.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

You'd better take that kind of excellent advice for free while you can get it, because a year a six months from now, that shit will cost you $500/hour.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

OH AND we already have tickets for both Pitchfork festival days.

ALSO AFI is playing at the Vic. My frat boy coworker is very excited.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good, I love the American Film Institute.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Another hilarious conversation with the AFI fan:

Me: What's your favorite movie? (note: Jeff asked me to ask this.)
Him: Gladiator. I also like post-apocalyptic movies. Dystopian movies.
Me: Like what?
Him: V for Vendetta. That movie is awesome.
Me: Have you ever seen Brazil?
Him: No. Hostel is probably my second favorite movie.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Do you love it with A Fire Inside?

xpost oh man, poor guy

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Off I go into the wild blue yonder!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'M BACK. GOD CAMP IS OVER. I HAVE A RENTAL CAR. I LEAVE TOMORROW. I'M FEELING....HARRIED.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

a secret: I have packed NOTHING AT ALL!!!!!!! for my 2 month trip!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse I am online now talk to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.............

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

See you-all tomorrow!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

BYE!

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I'm producing Maddie doing a cover of I Would Die 4 U, lolz

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 17 June 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I:
1. Had a minor financial crisis.
2. Got over it.
3. Went to the video game store, sold back some video games for store credit, and got "God of War."
4. Hung out in Barnes and Noble, read The Wire, Mojo and Blender for free.
5. Went to video store.
6. Made pasta.
7. Ate pasta and watched "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang."
8. Read some.
9. Played God of War a little bit.
10. Read a little more.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 17 June 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight Jesse:

1. Left his rental car key on the floor of our dining room.

Call me and tell me when you want to come get it, dawg.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 17 June 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

liquored up!!! and i may not be at karaoke until late if at all. i want to be there for sure but i dunno.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 17 June 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

JESSE I HAVE YR CREDIT CARD. CALL ME.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 17 June 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

God of War is a good game.

It sounds as if Jesse is shedding his possessions before heading out on his trip.

Tonight I:
1. Met my friend Bill in the Loop
2. Went to Taste of Randolph
3. Saw Son Volt
4. Drank expensive beerz
5. Went to a Greek restaurant, ate yummy olives, peppers, and stuffed grape leaves
6. Rode the train up north and hung out at the Village Tap
7. Went home and played video games very poorly while drunk
8. Posted this before I crashed out

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Saturday, 17 June 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah:

3a. While walking through the crowd, I saw a guy with a blue t-shirt that said "SISU" in white letters

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Saturday, 17 June 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

GODDDDDDDDAMN FUCK.

WE CLOSED OUT JENNY AND JEFF'S TAB AND THEN FOR SOME REASON THE SERVER SAID SHE NEEDED A CC TO OPEN A NEW TAB. Even though she knew Sheila (our joiner).

I don't have any explanation for how the key made it to the dining room floor. Was I upside down at any point?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

And I don't know why she even needed a CC b/c someone else bought me the beer I had.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

In the good news, I am all packed and managed to fit it all in 1 big giant rolly suitcase (thx Jenny) and 1 big giant duffel bag. And 1 backpack, 1 murse and 1 laptop case. I think that's commendable.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Consider yourself commended.

Godspeed, little labor dude. Godspeed.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm outta here!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Bon voyage!

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

i won't be there for karaoke. ex-girlfriend called at 1:30 this morning and now we have plans. sing loud, sing proud, chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 17 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

:_: , Otto

I'm going to be at the Hopleaf before heading over to Hidden Cove.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Saturday, 17 June 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

i don't speak emoticon. sorry. have fun for me though, my idea sounded like a good one when i was drunk last night, not so much of one now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 17 June 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god chicago, it was so much worse than i thought it would be.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 18 June 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Haha sucka, we had LOADS of fun.

Um, I'm up waaaay too early.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Since I'm awake, let me see if I can remember what everyone sang. I met some Sharks, and I remember some of the things that they sang, but not all of them, so I'll leave those out of the list until I can remember or someone else remembers for me.

Nick: "Rikki Don't Lose That Number" -
"Ghostbusters"
"I Touch Myself"
Nick and Sarah: "(I Had) The Time of My Life"
Sarah: "True Colors"
Jenny: "In a Big Country"
"Love Will Keep Us Together"
Eazy: "Champagne Supernova"
"Hot Child in the City"
Me: "Let the Music Play"

In retrospect, I should have stuck with more dancing, less rum. Forgive me if I have forgotten/missed something.

My head hurts.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite was Nick incanting "I am not afraid of no ghost, I am not afraid of no ghost." All fun. I like them Sharks!

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 18 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

"i touch myself" was my high school class song. mhs class of '91.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 18 June 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

my sent messages reveals that i should really stay off the internet after 3 a.m. oh my GOD.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

"I am not afraid of no ghost, I am not afraid of no ghost."

Haha, I can totally picture this.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, we signed a lease and we're moving!

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

And I think I can safely say that we will not be living in wrigleyville, since we will be east of fremont.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray to moving closer to us.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F2669B711B6C64E4

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite was Nick incanting "I am not afraid of no ghost, I am not afraid of no ghost."

Jeff and I remarked on the awesomeness of this just this morning.

I remember some Sharks selections. Here is a partial list:

Bridget - Break up Song (Greg Kinn), Stop Dragging My Heart Around duet with a random guy
Max - Wild Thing plus others that I can't remember
Ben - Come A Little Bit Closer (a fabulous rendition, I must say.)

Does anyone want:

A sofa
A desk
A weird end yet interesting end table thing
A microwave cart

If you do, come get it.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Max also did a wonderful rendition of Love Hurts.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I swear I'm doing Ray of Light next time.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 18 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I just watched Hostel.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 18 June 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I practiced Ray of Light while watching Hostel.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 18 June 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Is it possible for someone's feet to grow as an adult? I know that sometimes after women have babies their feet might be bigger, but I didn't have no babies between now and a year ago, which was the last time I wore these shoes. WTF???

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 18 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

moonlight mart on division does, in fact, have combos. you can rest easier now chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 18 June 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, Jenny, a bunch of furniture left along with one roommate today, so the sofa and desk both are enticing. Do you think the sofa could fit in the van?

Both times above I typed soda by mistake. I could really use a soda right now.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

I AM IN THE BIG NO. I FOUND AN OPEN WIRELESS SIGNAL IN MY HOUSE, BUT ONLY ON THE KITCHEN COUNTER. :(

The trip was long.
NO is damp.
The parts I have seen are not heavily damaged, but there are chest-high water marks on all the unpainted buildings.

We arrived, dropped our luggage and then headed to the French Quarter for a pigout on fried seafoods and around Bourbon Street, Royal, and to the Mississippi. On Royal there was a Catholic procession for the feast of Corpus Christi, the first in 50 years.

We have one young very very daughter of an AME minister who was APPALLED. She nearly went into a coma. We noticed she was quiet when we got back to the Jesuit house and we talked to her about it; she said that the Quarter "scared her--it was like Soddom and Gommorah!" The only thing that saved the day at all was that she felt that the Lord blessed her by showing her the procession right after the horrors of Bourbon Street. We told her that it was going to be fine, to each his own, thats New Orleans for you, etc, to which she responded, "I just dont like even knowing that it exists!" She is going to be the biggest challenge of the summer.

The Catholics were took it all very well. The Muslim was horrified too. He very discreetly said that it would have been best if the flood had spared the poor people and washed away Bourbon Street. But he is much smarter and more worldl than the AME girl.

(My computer is not allowing me to type apostrophes--it pulls up the "Find Text" tool bar at the bottom of the screen.)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, the couch is reaaaaaaal crappy, and you sink into a hole in one side, and things are falling out the bottom. But! We'd love to be rid of it.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and your friend was our server tonight. Nice young man he was.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, Jesse. I don't envy you having to deal with people like that, I don't know if I could do it on a daily basis.

Say hi to New Orleans for me. I was going to ask you to pick up my shirt that I left at an ex-priest's house, but it just arrived in the mail the other day.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

I would be afraid my immediate reaction to the AME girl would be, "Jesus fucking Christ! What's your problem????" It's good to hear from you though, Jesse! Be on ILX a lot.

Yeah, Eric, it's not a good couch but you know, it's a free couch. I think it will fit in the van if you can take seats out or stow them or something. We've also got a big fan that you can have if you want it.

We've got some stuff to sell, too, like a desktop stereo, home brew equipment (never used!), and a window AC unit.

Oh and your friend Jeremy is very nice and a great server. He said to send you his love, and he called you "The Duke." He also said the next time we go to karaoke at the Hidden Cove to call him.

AND the Green Zebra! Is great! Delicious, seriously, everybody should go if they have a special occasion for eating. I'm very happy and full of tasty vegetables.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh the couch comes with a slip cover, if that helps at all.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY JENNY AND JEFF.

The couch doesn't sound so hot (and Nuev@ Cat Jody is bringing one with her when she moves in), but I should come over soon and check out all of your goods, because your things for sale sound pretty appealing.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to get negative about the AME girl (thinking of just calling her "Amy," but her real name is Madeleine) because I am going to have to find a way to work with her. Buuuuut...she really needed to do laundry, so she asked if we could do it at the Jesuit place. When one of our staff informed her that the Jesuits had offered to let her use their machines, she said, "Oh yay! God bless them in great abundance!"

Where are you guys moving, J/J?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

This is home for the next few weeks. It is--actually I have no idea where the hell it is.

http://static.flickr.com/62/170224765_58cd786336_o.jpg

I just met my roommate, Emily. Nice girl.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

I am currently sitting in the living room, which is in the front, right under the bright light.

The upstairs is a seperate apartment.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm considering starting a Live Journal account of what I'm up to here (or something on Blogger) because 1-I get tired of telling the same stories over and over and over on the phone when catching up 2-Not everyone keeps up with ILX, where I do most of my posting about wassup wif me 3-I would not mind having a more permanent journaly sort of record of my trip, 4-writing down what's happening helps me sort shit out.

I guess I'll do that when I get a free minute.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

Disturbing phrase of the day, "The Katrina cough."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

I am so hungry and on my long walk and subsequent conversation with Emily, I discovered that there are no stores or bars or restaurants w/in walking distance. That is unfortunate.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, you have a blogger account.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 19 June 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeh.

This is a pic from the 3rd bedroom in the apartment. This is not hurricane damage. This is where the neigbors hit the house with a truck

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 19 June 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, you should go see Rebirth Br4ss B4nd at the Maple Leaf. It's near Tulane, I don't think you're all that far. It is an unmissable New Orleans experience.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

HI, Jesse!! Are you a hot tamale yet?

It's SO hot at work. It's ridiculous. The AC is broken again and will take at least 2 days to fix.

In better news, my coworker's daughter is working here for the summer and she's basically going to be my assistant. Her mom already buzzed my desk this morning asking if I had anything to pass off to her.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Make her get you some iced coffee. Then she can get everyone else (on the thread) coffee.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

i got an iced coffee from leitza's yesterday and the place was staffed entirely by beautiful women. i made me wish i'd showered or shaved or at least didn't have the shakes.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, your cylon joke made me SO happy when I checked thred last night. I have been trying to explain ILX to someone and BSG might just be the "in".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Obv my life is extra-especially geeky, if explaining an internest community requires shared enthusiasm for sci-fi drama. OH WELL.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost, haha you pre-empted me)

That's sad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Usage tip I did not know, from my daily e-mail from Bryan A. Garner:

erstwhile; quondam; whilom; sometime.

Each of these terms means "onetime, former, at a former time," and those simpler alternatives are almost always better. By far the most common is "erstwhile" (/UHRST-w[h]Il/), which is called a "literary" word in the Oxford English Dictionary. The least common are "quondam" (/KWON-duhm/) and, even rarer, "whilom" (/HWI-luhm/). The word "sometime," an invitation to a miscue, is often misused as if it meant "occasional, from time to time."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Karaoke sounds like it was a blast. Wish I could've been there, etc.

Cleveland was fun, too, but pretty weird as well.

1. We stayed at Colin's sister's boyfriend's parents house in Shaker Heights. I did not realize until we got there that the dad is a Lutheran pastor, which wasn't a big deal or anything, but made me a little nervous as I sat next to him on the picnic table in the backyard, lest I accidentally say something ungodly.

2. We appeared on the local NBC affiliate's Sunday morning news show, on location from the Hall of Fame. Matt wore an earpiece and answered a few questions from the chipper co-anchors, and then they showed a couple minutes of us playing "M1crophone S0ng" live. I haven't seen the video yet, but I can only imagine.

3. Before and after the news taping, there was a band called Poobah playing on the opposite stage. It was three middle-aged dudes basically jamming and guitar-shredding as if it were 1975. The lead singer had shoulder-length blond-turning-gray hair and was wearing a tie-dye shirt and denim shorts. Typical lyric: "Never thought I'd have this feeling / You've got me high as a ceiling." I was utterly confused about what they were doing as part of the festival, and I formulated a theory that they were friends of someone on the sound crew, who said "You know, the official lineup doesn't start until noon, but I have to be there early in the morning to set up -- why don't you guys come by and jam and then you can say you played the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?" When we got to the merch tent, however, there was a banner that read "Bud Light Presents ... POOBAH" and they were selling CDs (sample title: Wizard of Psych with the lead singer on the cover massaging a crystal ball) and there were magazine clippings that read "Poobah to Play Rock and Roll Hall of Fame This Weekend." I still don't get it. They seriously looked like they stepped out of a Wayne's World skit, especially when the main dude announced their website -- he said "poobahband" in a normal voice and then howled "dot com!" in falsetto while manically grinning like Ted Nugent.

4. The crowd for our actual afternoon performance was a bit not what we were expecting. I think we thought it would have been more of an industry crowd, but judging by the turnout for the Spinto Band on Saturday night (who were really great -- but srsly, nobody was there), the festival must not attract that many insiders. Typical was the guy with blond dreads who told me after our performance that he really liked "the fiddle" and that what we should really do is put "the fiddle" on a reggae song, because nobody has ever combined bluegrass and reggae before and it would totally work. He also had an idea for a video that would involve some sort of body-switch between Ziggy Marley and Kid Rock: "Kid Rock would wake up on a beach in Jamaica, and Ziggy Marley would wake up in a trailer in Detroit." I don't know if this was supposed to be a music video or what, but he seemed convinced of its limitless potential.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Did you shake it up in Shaker Heights?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

xpost
Wouldn't sometimes still be appropriate though?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Did you travel through scenic Chagrin Falls?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

white guys with dreads should be beaten on sight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

OMG -- reggae man -- was his name B.E. Lew!s ? Or B.E. M@nn?

Tell me it was because I have a FUNNY STORY about that dude.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

"Sometimes" is certainly appropriate as an adverb -- but I've always used "sometime" as an adjective in descriptions like "Neko Case, the sometime vocalist for the New Pornographers" to mean that she doesn't sing with them all the time. So apparently that's not right: I can only use it in descriptions like "Jay Bennett, the sometime member of Wilco" to mean he's no longer in the band.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

OMG -- reggae man -- was his name B.E. Lew!s ? Or B.E. M@nn?

He introduced himself to me, but I don't remember his name. I don't believe it was "B.E.," though.

I don't know about Chagrin Falls, but the house we stayed at was very close to Chagrin Blvd.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that's a shame -- this guy was/is a real nutjob and BOY do I have some salacious stories about him.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Good old Chagrin Blvd. I don't suppose you made it down to Akron at all.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ hippy dude

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

REGGAEGRASS

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

blugae.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

bluegai

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Eric you can come over and look at our worldly possessions and make offers on just about anything. That goes for the rest of you looking to stock up on fine, high quality second hand merchandise as well.

Jeff and I took off today! And we're not doin' jack shit! Except I made four-grain blueberry pancakes for breakfast this morning. Yum.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm. Good for you guys.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Recipe?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

pancake in a manilla evelope and mailed to me?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Pancake delivery by Sarah's assistant?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

He also had an idea for a video that would involve some sort of body-switch between Ziggy Marley and Kid Rock: "Kid Rock would wake up on a beach in Jamaica, and Ziggy Marley would wake up in a trailer in Detroit."

This is a million-dollar idea! Seriously!

Jenny, I'll get some more work done here, and we can figure out a time when I can drop by soon to see the 2nd-hand goods.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I just checked my cell-phone status and found that I overshot my monthly minute rate and am not looking forward to the upcoming bill...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

This is a million-dollar idea! Seriously!

Haha, why am I so not surprised that Mr. High Concept would go for this?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kid Rock is actually from Romeo, MI which is quasi-suburban farm land. This strikes me as an even more funny place to send Ziggy Marley than Detroit.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

anyone going to the cftpa show at the bottle tonight?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly. I didn't realize it was free! I need to talk to my associates.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

so is anyone out there chicago? booooooooooring.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Trans: Dan will have his people call your people.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

i don't have any people!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yikes, work bad. Monday Night Drinking Club good.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

i want to go to the bottle tonight as the price is right (free), mondays are $1.25 pbr nights, and i really like casiotowen but it looks like there are FOUR opening acts? better be 20 minute sets are all i'm saying.

tomorrow night at the beat kitchen= GREAT TIME!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bored too. Who's playing tomorrow?

Btw, that mysterious YSI link I posted upthread is a track I did last week, but there's a better version (i.e. with handclaps) on my lj.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

My people are interested. Ok, person. Ok, my buddy Sam. He likes teh noize. Also he is broke and unemployed. Anyone know of jobs available for someone with 2/3 of an Electrical Engineering degree?

xpost: To look at the EB's site it looks like there are more like 6 opening acts, all of them "harsh noise." Still want to go? :)

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Every night at the Beat Kitchen = GOODTIME

http://www.offshore-bar.com/bands/ndigt.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

beat kitchen= in reverse order, dem0n's cl@ws, bbq, he4d4che c1ty. bbq is always a great time.

xpost- i live around the corner from the bottle so i can hopefully avoid most the the 6(!!!) opening acts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Why would they name themselves BBQ? They'll never be as good as the food, no matter how hard they rock.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to mention one of the most important details of karaoke nite:

PEOPLE WERE WEARING SHORTS. Those people included: The Dan, Kenan, EZ, my friend Laura, me if you count knee-length capris, maybe some other people.

That's a lot of leg.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I rechecked, there's only five (5) openers.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I BOUGHT ANOTHER PAIR OF SHORTS YESTERDAY> THEY ARE DKNY> I = TEH FASHIONISTA

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Was Jeff wearing shorts? I can't remember.

I thought everyone looked good in his/her shorts.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

bbq= one guy. guitar, bass drum, and a snare played with a kick pedal. and a tamborine atop the bass drum i guess. he is amazing. the aural equal of the food.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

i should have gone to karaoke.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, new songs and a Pavement cover by Casey D.. (Other live sessions from Casiotone and others at this place, too.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

i got bored and wound up looking up information on the town where i grew up. turns out they've put all the minutes for town meetings going to back 1725 on line and i'm reading them now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan and I were both wearing shorts and baseball caps. It was fun to sing "Champagne Supernova" while wearing a bright gold Veuve Cliqout baseball cap.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

(The link didn't work, I'll try again.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

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town of , praying that they may have a private or particular road, laid out as set forth
in the said petition- in answer to said petition, and in obedience to the law of the Province, we
have, to the best of our skill, laid out the said way, three rods wide, in manner following;
beginning at a white oak tree marked near Ephrain Clark’s land; from thence, across

Thomas Eaton’s, and by the west side of Samuel Clark’s cellar; thence by the west side of a
white oak tree marked with H, by . Hawk’s meadow and so along said meadow as near as is convenient, to the lower end crossing the brook between two maple trees marked; from thence,
as the trees are marked, to a white oak by Haverhill path running from the east side of the tree
in the path, until we come to a stake by James How’s well, and by agreement of the said stake
to a white oak marked with H, the way lying to the east. The owners of the land not being present,
we thought it not convenient to proceed any farther. The above said road was laid out
April the 8,1726

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

bbq= one guy. guitar, bass drum, and a snare played with a kick pedal. and a tamborine atop the bass drum i guess. he is amazing. the aural equal of the food.

That could only be awesome or bad street musician territory. Reminds me of a dude I saw in New Orleans playing 12 bar blues on the street, except he was playing rhythm guitar with his left hand, lead guitar with his right on a guitar strapped to his back, and bass with his feet (with a bass guitar lying on his case).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I asked my friends on my alma mater college radio board about the bands at the bottle tonight, and they posted a bunch of pictures of noise dudes fiddling with knobs on the floor.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

go here.

unrelated: my home town approved the drafting of minutemen on january 9, 1775.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have trouble singing and dancing at the same time, so anyone who can play two instruments at once AND sing has my respect 1000x over.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.universalbuzz.com/ArtistCatalogPics/lonesomeorganist.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, honestly I find playing piano and singing at the same time kind of amazing. Esp. the dude who I do the church gig with, since he's playing lots of syncopated stuff on tunes that he might be playing for the first time (possibly reading it down!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

C'mon guys, we're only about 50 posts behind "try glasgow more" now!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Still at work, here.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

EXCITING, HUH?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'm at home being confounded by directions on making dinner.

pasta it is, again.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 19 June 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

What were you thinking of making?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 June 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I made, then ate, too much food. Soup, bread, cheese, etc. Now I'm rapidly reclining towards horizontal on the couch.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

bloody minded is one of the opening bands tonight at the bottle, They are awesome.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

1) Kenan, I finally got around to listening to that Triosk/Jelinek record and I really like it.

2) I just put sparkling grapefruit juice into a glass of moscato d'asti and it's extra tasty.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

Can I? Yes you can. Anytime.
C-A-N-E-I -- Canei wine.

I am doing laundry and eating cheese and olives.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds great.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

Gouda and kalamata, respectively.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Of course.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think i cooked my chicken long enough. assuming i don't start shitting my pants in the next 10 minutes i'll be at the bottle tonight. someone come by and buy me cheap beers.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

I have now had the privelege of listening to Jesse's neighbors having sex. It was very disappointing. I think they need lessons. It was all so ordinary and monkey-like. Not even any good dirty talk.

My cat does not like Jesse's cat, not one bit, and vice versa. This is going to be a long night. Neither cat is remotely interested in the bird, oddly enough.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

What is wrong with those assholes? Don't they realize that if they can here me shitting from their living room, then you can hear them fucking in my place?

An ammendment to our verbal agreement: you must pound on the wall with your fist when they fuck. Hell, go do it now even if they're done. I hate them deeply.

What are the cats up to?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

I did have one panicky moment, when I came out of the bathroom and the bird was not on his perch, and there were feathers on the floor. I had left my cat alone with him for a moment. Then I saw that the bird (who will known hereon as Kenny) was safely sitting on the back of the couch, and my cat was lying on the other end of the couch, and they were ignoring each other.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

So this happened to the 3rd bedroom of my home:

http://static.flickr.com/64/170448334_a02e9e97d9_o.jpg

The black part is plastic filling in the gap between the walls.

This is not hurricane damage, but damage resulting from a construction worker's truck hitting the side of the hosue a few days before I moved in. The guy fled and has not been identified.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

xpost -- the cats hate each other like Martin Amis and Julian Barnes.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

You should leave the neighbors a note with bullet points, tips and diagrams, K.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

Which is to say, deeply, but maybe someday they will get drunk together and hug.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

I probably shouldn't be telling Jesse about every false alarm. I'm bound to worry him. Like when I burned the holy hell out of some french fries in his toaster oven. Maybe I should email the rest of you with my stories of paranoia, and not tell Jesse anything remotely bad until something happens that's actually bad.

I'm sorry Jesse. Everything is fine here, it really is. I'm just incredibly high-strung.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

Wisconsin Thread says you guys don’t know how to make pizza.

― D.C. Thread (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

I really do need to start a little blog because I have limited access to the internet these days and no time to talk on the phone. Perhaps tomorrow I'll work on that.

Today we took a tour of the Lower 9th Ward, and there's not much I can say about it--it's gone. The Lower 9th was right on the edge of the leavy that was most damaged. It seems that it slowly crumbled and weakened until it let loose, releasing water with a lot of force. There are piles of houses stacked on top of each other, cars in houses, houses in trees, cars on houses, boats on houses, houses in churches, and so on. Amidst all of that there are random signs of the daily lives that people lived there--beads, toys, pictures, dishes, much of that stuff dirty but undamaged.

I wasn't emotionally moved it, and the other staff and I carried on ordinary conversations, but I know that it's something I'm still processing.

The part that gets me is the fact that it's been 10 months since this happened. I know this is the fact of the matter, but I can't really believe it--it looks like it happened a couple of weeks ago.

xpost--goddamit Kenan, tell me what happened.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

Special Post-Katrina Challenge: Many, many street signs are missing, and of those that are left, a number twisted around in the wind. This is the case in areas that were spared extreme damage. In the Lower 9th Ward and other areas that are wiped out there are no street signs at all (but workers still need to know the names of the streets to get to their sites). People have labelled a few of the streets with spray paint on utility poles (where there are some left standing) and with home made signs.

Also--common graffito: "BAGHDAD"

I have dozens and dozens of pics already, and will post soon.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I'm sure you're not doing anything worse than anything I've done in my own home. I hope you're not feeling high-strung or anxious b/c you think I'm worried about your being there or anything like that.

OK, goodnight monkeys. I've got to get up early so I can drive over and chow on some of that delicious (and free) Jesuit breakfast. (I've been eating incredibly well here--seafood, pizza, Thai, Cracker Barrel--I'm going to come back a fatter fucker.)

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

1. Jesse: You already have a blog.

2. Kenan, it takes cats a couple of weeks to stop actively hating each other. Then they move on into blessed indifference.

3. We say X-Men III last night. It was okay.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, that sweet, sweet Jesuit breakfast.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

I just invited someone whose blog I have read for many years but with whom I have never directly spoken or corresponded but who recently moved to Chicago out for coffee. I hope this doesn't make me weird.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

You just want to get to him/her before s/he realizes that you're not dating material, even if you are the funniest girl in school.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

if she's a she and she's single give her my number. don't bother if she's a he or is married.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

;)

I saw a girl walking down State yesterday wearing a t-shirt with the Unknown Pleasures mountain design on it IN RAINBOW NEON COLORS on an OFF THE SHOULDER shirt.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny--

I know I have a Blogger account and sort of have a blog, but I have not posted anything to it in nigh a year.

I had watermelon for breakfast instead. How can I feel bloated this early in the morning? I must be starting my cycle.

I found out that I get a copy of the organization's credit card. I feel like such a fucking grown up.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm drinking bus station coffee this morning chicago, BUS STATION COFFEE. the forest park el doesn't even get a dunkin donuts, it only has that shadey "convenience" store that doesn't have camel lights but does have winston light 100s. this coffee tastes vaguely meaty. it's gross. it tastes like the mens room at arby's smells.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

On kissing other girls for attention/currency/beer:

"It's definitely a good, well-worn, tried-and-true route to hooking up with a guy that you want," Julie says. "It's not giving him a lap dance and stripping on a pole for him, but it's showing him that you can be open, and if that's what he likes, that's what you'll do. Which makes him think you're better to sleep with than the 100 other girls in the room with you."

I know there is a commercial you have to sit through, but isn't it worth it for GIRL ON GIRL ACTION? I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I'm pretty sure I'm revolted by 1) girls using their friends as sex toy currency and 2) the hysteria this sort of thing causes, like when Oprah announces that everyone blows each other. Ok now, discuss.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Females who perform for males say they're not at all turned on by the hookup, except for the reaction they know they're eliciting: None of the girls I interviewed said they'd repeatedly kissed girls because they enjoyed it or because they found it arousing. "If I knew a girl was a lesbian, I wouldn't make out with her, because I'd think that would be weird," Nina says. "When I'm making out with my friends I know we're doing it in a joking way, like, 'Ha, ha, we're drunk and we're going to do this to tease the guys.' I've never done it without a guy watching me. That would be weird, too, because the whole reason we're doing it is to screw with the guys. We wouldn't do it if they weren't there. I don't just go and make out with girls because I think it's fun."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ariel whatsherface gets into this in Female Chauvanist Pig - basically, how can sex be feminist and empowering if you don't actually enjoy it, and if you're doing it for the benefit and enjoyment of men rather than your own benefit and enjoyment?

I think I'm most revolted by the whole "competing for mates at the water hole" feel of the situation. But then again, I've never liked the kind of bars or the kind of people that seem to be profiled in this article (which I haven't read - I'm going just by the excerpts here).

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

"It's definitely a good, well-worn, tried-and-true route to hooking up with a guy that you want," Julie says.

hey julie, try kissing the guy with whom you want to hook up, i'll bet that will work pretty well too.

chicago this personal drought is taking it's toll on me.

and i just caught this part: the whole reason we're doing it is to screw with the guys.

well fuck you very much.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I thought too. I don't really know anyone like this either, but I wanted to punch her after she said that she wouldn't kiss an actual lesbian. Whatever, bitch.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should develop a more controversial opinion so we can have something to talk about.

Ok -- I just found out that this guy in my HS class
1) has embraced his Native American heritage and goes by White Paw
2) does "paranormal studys"
3) is a devoted swinger

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

4) has three kids

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

5) and hopefully does not google himself very frequently

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Alternative careers I would love:

1. Undertaker
2. Paranormal Investigator
3. Librarian

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

weird, i have two friends who are undertakers and two who are librarians. i don't know any paranormal investigators.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

5) and hopefully does not google himself very frequently

is that what the kids are calling it these days?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

i think i would like to work with penguins.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

I too missed my career as a zoologist. I know many librarians, one undertaker and, apparently, ONE performer of "paranormal studys." I also finally remembered who this guy is and I think he might be nuts.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

might be?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Good point.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

i don't want to be a zoologist, i don't want to STUDY penguins, i want to work with them. like replace half the people in the office with penguins. starting with the woman in the cubicle on the other side of mine. i think it would be fun to shoot the shit with penguins or grab a cup of coffee with them or share a smoke on the back steps and bitch about management.

"so how was your weekend?"
"ah you know, ate some herring, did some swimming, same old shit.."

that kind of thing.
i wonder what kind of car the office penguins would drive?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to work with otters/weasels/minks/other tube-shaped rodents.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

i think the trust-funded penguin would drive a saab, the one who lives in lagrange would drive an old peugot with empty dunkin donuts cups in the backseat. the rest would probably take the bus.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Amanda, can I see you in my office?"

http://www.otter.org/gallery/pic6.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

"Who's hogging the copier?"
http://www.cecilw.com/photo/albums/animals/8885_mink.sized.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD MORNING.

1) Actually it's not that good, I pissed off my girlfriend, my toast fell on the floor, and I'm late to work because of laundry mishaps.

2) Oddly enough, all the swingers I've known are bass players.

3) Jesse, take your flock to the Maple Leaf tonight.

4) It looks like I will be in Chicago for a weekend later this summer to some recording with a friend of mine. FUNZONE.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

did anyone wind up going to the bottle last night? i fell asleep on my couch with a pint of water in my hand and woke up when said pint was out of the glass and onto my tummy. i decided it was best to jut go to bed at that point.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Admit it, you wet the bed.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

I WAS ON THE COUCH.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

but aside from that, yes, of course i wet the bed.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wisconsin Thread says you guys don’t know how to make pizza.
-- D.C. Thread (bullshi...), June 19th, 2006.

Btw dudes, if this comes down to some Ken Burns shit, well, I hope you understand which side I have to take.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

What does Wisconsin Thread know about how I make pizza? HUH?

(What does this have to do with Ken Burns' shit?)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

(civil war)

(sorry)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

i totally want pizza right now. or more combos. they have the big bags at the 7-11 on milwaukee and wood or walcott. the tiny small bags they have at the moonlight mart on division are tinier and smaller than they used to be. it was like a combos tease or something.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I like ALL kinds of pizza. Although I can generally do without Papa John's/Dominos corporate delivery pizza. It's fine if that's all the pizza there is, but I wouldn't choose it if I had other options.

my toast fell on the floor

Butter side down???

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Of course. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

(it's okay though, 'cause the carrot nut muffin I got at the coffee shop was delicious)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Penguins," by Lyle Lovett

I don't go for fancy cars
For diamond rings
Or movie stars
I go for penguins
Oh Lord I go for penguins

Throw your money out the door
We'll just sit around
And watch it snow
I go for penguins
Oh Lord I go for penguins

Penguins are so sensitive
Penguins are so sensitive
Penguins are so sensitive
To my needs

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

What the hell kind of song is that? Penguins are so sensitive to my needs? WTF.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Do you people remember Liquid Television on MTV? There was an animated short that was drawn from the first person POV in which someone buttered toast, then dropped it butter side down on the carpet. He picks it up and it's covered in hair and weirdness and he grumbles, picks on little hair off the toast, and then eats it anyway. It doesn't sound funny from my description, but I remember bagging up when I first saw it.

xpost - I think it was his Julia Roberts break up song.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.voote.com/images/Reg.143.3.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's about a sweaty locker room tryst he had with a certain hockey team from pittsburgh.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

CHICARGO - Anybody have any recommendations for movers? I don't know if we're going to spring for such a luxury, but I insist that we investigate it because the last four times I've moved, I have sworn that I would hire movers the next time. And then I didn't. And each move has been progressively more stressful/exhausting. So dammit, I'm looking into it with seriousness this time.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

craigslist. two moves ago i used these dudes that packed up my two bedroom place in two hours and unloaded it in 45 minutes. couldn't find them for the last place but found this other dude who was pretty good. kinda steak-heady but was careful and fast. i have his email or number around somewhere if you want it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

(xxpost) Lovett/Lemieux 4-EVA

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, did you have to rent the truck yourself or did he come with a truck, too? That's actually part of what I am trying to avoid - going and renting a truck and basically just dealing with all that crap. I don't want to drive a moving truck through Chicago or find a place to park it, none of that shit. Plus, we are in a situation where we have to be out of our current place on 7/31 but can't get into the new place until 8/1. Plus August 1 is on a goddamn Tuesday. So hiring movers would very possibly be the only thing that keeps me from jumping in front of a train.

But yeah, I'll take his number.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

This has got to be the most useless "helpful foreign phrase" ever:

Come si dice ____ in italiano?
koh-meh see dee-cheh ____ een ee-tah-lee-ah-noh
How do you say ____ in Italian?

If they understand what you want to say in Italian well enough to translate it, surely you could ask in English???

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Although I guess you could point at ____.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

i rented the truck because i needed to do some other errands with it. but he said he takes care of the truck all the time. i'll look for the email, it's somewhere in my gmail account.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I love saying "Como se dice..." in Spanish, especially putting on a big showy accent for that phrase and then saying the English word that follows with the most flat American pronunciation ever.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know Italian in this bitch? I forgot to learn it. Again. Here is a list of all the words I know:

ciao
gratzi
quanto?
si
no
scusi
bongiorno
un doble machiatto, por favore
una beere, por favore

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Strada = Street

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Also Gnocchi = Gnocchi (Knee Oh Kee)

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

"Come se dice...HOT DOG?!"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Useful: http://spanishdict.com/

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to my friend Kr|st|n's last radio show on an mp3 stream. It's so much better than the shitty old Real bull shit.

In like 40 minutes her husband (ilxor joygoat) shows up to play 90s alternative and 80s punk, plus Junior Murvin and Cheap Trick. I am in heaven.

hxxp://marge.resnet.mtu.edu:8002/wmtu128.m3u if you care

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Not so much to report here. Weather is suddenly steamy, I'm super busy at work & life and what the fuck am I doing in this office today, anyway, when there's IMPORTANT STUFF to do?? Pattern and fabric coming in a couple of days for my bridesmaid dress and I have to make the whole thing next weekend, it looks like. ACK ACK.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I forgot! I met Kevin's friend N0rah on Sat and she's SUPAH AWWWSUM and had great sunglasses on, too. Is there another N. I could keep here? I want my own.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

and she's playing tonight! come out and buy me overpriced beers at the beat kitchen!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060611/060611_spearslauer_vmed_10p.widec.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

i was just thinking "jesus she's put on weight." but then i remembered she's knocked up. k-fed is as fertile as the mississippi delta isn't he.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't Lucky Boys Confusion or one of those bands playing the BK every night this week?

JENNY! Starving Artists are affordable and have worked great for me and others I know. Two guys in Mah Johngg (sp) moved my roommate this past Sunday. They are what you are looking for:
http://www.starvingartistsuperstore.com/

I thought for a minute that Ken Burns was making a documentary on pizza. Ken Burns' Pizza. I'd watch that. 20 hours.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

tonight is he@d@che c1ty, dem0n's cl@ws, and bbq.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sooooo hoping dem0n's cl@ws are headlining because i've seen then enough but i can't get enough bbq.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Dem0n's cl@ws should play a double bill with Bear Cl@w.

Gotta see my pal Zapruder at Schubas tonight.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

The kid on the left of this album cover just e-mailed me:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003TBS.08._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Huh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

From: R
To: j
Date: 20 Jun 2006 01:39:08 -0000
Subject: I was that kid

the "skinny pointy-chinned kid."

==
This email was sent by R, a user of ilXor.com.
http://ilx.wh3rd.net/index.php

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

dan--i've really liked the part of your friend's radio show that i've heard, so thanks for posting the link!

i should see if there's a playlist, hmm.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Dear farmer's market strawberries,

You complete me.

Love,
A

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

wonder what skinny pointy-chinned kid looks like now

― renen (renen), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

wonder what skinny pointy-chinned kid looks like now

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/effyoutoo/preparedforbattle.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, will they treat my belongings extra nice if I tell them I know you?

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to see some starving artists burly enough to move heavy furniture.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

i should see if there's a playlist, hmm.

http://wmtu.mtu.edu/cgi-bin/main.cgi?onair

Playlist stuff is at the bottom, if you haven't found it yet.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

J., I don't know them - I just hired them when I moved last fall based on someone's recommendation. And they were burly and knew what they were doing and have a moving truck covered in all kinds of paint - and the move cost about $250 including a good tip (I was moving out of a studio and had moved a bunch of small things myself already), so I can't recommend 'em enough.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, cool. I emailed them to get some clarification about their rates, but they sound about right. I did some googling and the biggest beef people have with them is that they have a small truck and aren't good for moving very nice things. Luckily, we're ditching like, everything except what might fit in a very small studio so a small truck is just what we need, and we don't own any very nice things. Or many just plain nice things. So perfect.

I just don't think I can deal with the physical and emotional stress of renting a truck and loading it and driving it and unloading it and taking it back... I just can't. The thought makes me want to cry in pain and frustration.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

So two people I know are doing one of those fasting/detox things. What's up with that. Has anyone here ever done it? I think I would pass out if I didn't eat for half a day, much less 10 days.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

AIM conversation between myself and my friend doing the radio show mentioned above...

me: you and yer wife are goth cure fags*
joygoat: we have a robert smith role-playing game that we like to indulge in
joygoat: sometimes one of us pretends to be morrisey or peter murphy and we have a slap fight
me: roffles

*they had both played hits by the Britishes pop act The Cure within an hour of one another

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda - I used to see a chiropractor for some inexplicable and horrible back pain and numbness and he was very good and he fixed it, so that was nice. But he was also an insane flake and was constantly suggesting I go on this Mastercleanse fast (the one where you drink lemonade with cayenne pepper and maple syrup for ten days), which I was like, um, no? Because at the time, I was 30 pounds lighter and going to the gym six days a week. And he knew this, because I would come to his office in my gym clothes half the time and we talked about how the inexplicable and horrible back pain and numbness was making it hard for me to work out as much as (apparently, in hind sight) I needed to (what with having substituted law school for working out six days a week and subsequently gained a enough weight to form my own kindergartener).

So anyway, I did a lot of research on it and the consensus among non-insane doctors is that it's crap. It probably won't hurt you if you do it once, but when people talk about all the "amazing" things that they crap out as a result of the cleanse, they are talking about the mucousal lining of their intestines, which they kind of need.

― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

hits by the Britishes pop act The Cure

haha Yes, I think I've heard of them. The name is somehow familiar.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

So anyway, I did a lot of research on it and the consensus among non-insane doctors is that it's crap.
That's what I was thinking. So do people do it because they want to lose weight and don't want to admit it or what? (ie, people who should probably not be losing weight but for whatever reason they think they need to)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

People can get obsessed about cleanliness and purity - that's at least why folks I know have detoxed. The only one it really helped was a gal I worked with who discovered what everyday foods were having an adverse effect on her. The others who've done it were more binge/purge types - not literally, but metaphorically in the sense of fast for a week, feast for a week, etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

It's like the enema fad - apparently doctors don't make much of it, but folks want to feel clean and purified.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Master Cleanse For Bloated Addicts

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

That's going to be the name of my noise project.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Also known as MCBA

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Kinda like when Otto mentioned CFTPA yesterday, and not realizing what the acronym stood for right away, I googled it and found the website for the Canadian Film and Television Production Association.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

sorry to confuse you john. but if it's any consolation karma's taking it out on me by giving me an upset tummy. note to self: huge-assed bag of crunchy cheetos is not a lunch.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hey people, have any of you had the situation of needing to be out of an apartment on the 31st but not being able to move into the new place until the 1st? What on earth did you do in that situation?

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh it's okay, Kevin, I figured it out pretty quickly.

I am having dinner with my mom at Andie's tonight. I haven't been there in a couple years, probably.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

only once and i wound up sleeping on a friend's front lawn.

there's no way you can move in a day early? the lessor won't bend at all? i know they don't have to but not even as a sign of good faith? gah, good luck.

xpost- then call off the tummy ache!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

and jenny's new name calls to mind my favorite patton oswalt bit, "set 'em up country music, IT'S PARTY TIME!!!"

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Where is this new place, Jenny? Unless I missed something, all I know is that it's not in Wrigleyville -- but it's close? I feel like I haven't seen you in a while.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, are there people set to move into your place?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

There is a tenant currently in the unit and he doesn't have to be out until the 31st. And the landlord wants to do a walk through or some shit, but he said that he might be out sooner. I'm hoping that our current landlord will let us leave on the 1st, although as much shit as I'm giving him about the laundry facilities, it's hard to say.

Jenny's new name is a category of songs available for karaoke at the Hidden Cove.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Strange, I have a tummy ache now, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

You have to guess what my new name is all about.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

i don't have to do anything. actually i do and i should get back to it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Our current landlord doesn't know we're moving out yet - we haven't gotten the letter saying, "Hey, are you moving out?" and we just decided to move so we haven't told him of our own volition yet. So there definitley aren't people set to move into the place right now, but I am guessing there might be.

The new place is on the 3500 block of Broadway.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say, the one time that happened to me, there were people lined up for our place but when they came and walked through we just said "can you wait a day?" and they were cool with it. The landlord was none the wiser, which was good because he was a cock and would probably have tried to charge us for another month for being there that extra day.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

probably have tried to charge us for another month for being there that extra day.

that was actually in my lease. don't know if it would've held up in court but i knew my pockets weren't deep enough to fight the north shore investment banker landlord i had.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

If the starving artist people are into it, I'm hoping we can be out by noon, if not earlier, on the 1st. That seems fairly reasonable. If the LL does show the place before hand, I'll try to work that out with the tenants. Good idea!

Gawd, I just got a quote from other non-starving artist movers and damn, that shit is expensive.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

(xxp) That sounds pretty Wrigleyville to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I just fact-checked a caption on a photograph of Kanye in the "rap music" article. Apparently he is a "popular rapper in the early 21st century."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

If by "popular rapper" they mean "sub-par rapper who happens to be a great producer and therefore people tolerate his wack rhymes."

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Guess there's a lot of Kanye fans out there the way this thread died again.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

But come on! "Your breath is harsh like you've got SARS" ?????

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's my turn to sound like Kenan.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Martin doesn't care about black people.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan doesn't care about black people?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

wow, my day got really f'ing busy there for a while. you know who i wish would visit my office? the tamale guy. god bless that dude.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck 'em.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I saw one of the tamale guys* at Cub once. I can only assume he was restocking.

*Supposedly there are several, at least in the Logan Square/Bucktown area, and they are all cousins.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

The tentacles of the tamale cabal run deep into the stomachs of drinkers everywhere in this town.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, is there anything better when you've had way too many too early than to see the tamale guy and know you'll soon be sucking down cheese tamales? goddamn that's good.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I like the tamale/dreadful corn concoction carts up and down Clark St. I assume they are part of the tamale cabal. But seriously. Avoid that corn shit, unless you really like mayonaise and Parkay by the spoonful.

You know what I really like, though? The Polar ice cream cart vendors. YUM.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I was in meetings from 11:00 - 3:00, and then ran to the bar next door for a grilled cheese. It was way better than I expected - decent marbled rye bread, bacon, fresh-tasting tomatoes, couple kinds of cheese. Mmmmm. I wish there were roving grilled cheese vendors.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I wish there were roving grilled cheese vendors.

i think i just came in my pants.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

You people should have gone to more Dead shows.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

dreadful corn concoction

Ah, elotes. I've had good ones at the Sunday market down on Roosevelt(?) that are made with crema. But yeah, generally the cart ones are teh gross.

xpost: Go to a Phish show, hippies! :)

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

The tamale guy never comes when I actually want tamales. Alternately, I don't hang out in Wicker Park/Bucktown/Ukrainian Village bars enough. Then again, I didn't know he had cheese tamales until recently.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Damn it, quick-draw Jenny beat me to the jam band joke.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going to la pasadita on the way home.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, JENNY IS A ROVING GRILLED CHEESE VENDOR!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wherever she lays her cheese is her home.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I think FF will be on 93 XRT at 8:45 tonight and Thurs at 10:45, if anyone is around and feels like listening to silly radio stuff.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Are you goin' to da show wit da regular guy?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

"HICARGO - Anybody have any recommendations for movers? I don't know if we're going to spring for such a luxury, but I insist that we investigate it because the last four times I've moved, I have sworn that I would hire movers the next time. And then I didn't. And each move has been progressively more stressful/exhausting. So dammit, I'm looking into it with seriousness this time. "

DAY LABORERS, HELLO?!

ALSO, I'VE ASKED BEFORE: WHERE? ARE? YOU? MOVING?

Also, DAY LABORERS!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

T/S: Starving artists vs. Day laborers.

You hash it out, I'm taking a shower.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny already said the 3500 block of Broadway. And I refuse to say I live in wrigleyville, even though Addison will be my el stop. We're east of Halsted, so I'll call it Boystown/Lakeview.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

We are right beside the Jewel, just south of addison.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

And I refuse to say I live in wrigleyville, even though Addison will be my el stop. We're east of Halsted, so I'll call it Boystown/Lakeview.

I figure if you're out of earshot of all the woooooo-ing, you're not in Wrigleyville. Plus, you can walk to baseball games.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

I really should get a blog. Maybe on Blogger.

Can I tell you a secret that burns inside of me? The apartment where the interns are to stay is not ready at all. Due to the New Orleansness of organization of repairs, painting, inspection etc, the interns have no place to live. We may be going down to a day-laborer corner tomorrow and getting a crew to fix the place up pronot.

Also, tomorrow I will be part of a meeting with a NO w0rkers' right's coalition whom the head of our org calls "the sharks." This is the coalition whose head is a very young (24) egomaniac who is expected to "punk" me at the first opportunity.

The best part of NO: it is hot, but it's completely manageable. I think that it's the ubiquitous primo A/C.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

"pronot"

Maybe that's how you say "pronto" in NO.

Today we ate at a cafe on Calliope Street. That's pronounced cal-ee-ope.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

My area (Audobon Street and Fontainebleau) was not too heavily damaged, but on my street on the next block is this

http://static.flickr.com/54/171253763_a181af7711_o.jpg

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think that it's the ubiquitous primo A/C.

Bingo. Imagine a Chicago winter without heat. Same deal. People aren't crazy.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you can tell in that picture, but it blocks most of the street. I drive by this a couple of times a day, which keeps at bay the impression that things are OK.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

I was worried that Jesse's kitty would hiss and intimidate my kitty and keep her under the couch forever, but by the time I got home tonight, my cat was sprawled leisurely across the sofa and protecting her own territory. She hisses and growls whenever Jesse's kitty gets near. They keep a respectable distance, and she's comfortable enough to sit in my lap and such, just like yesterday before I traumatized her by stuffing her in a duffel bag and taking her for a cab ride. Balance.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

Is my kitty OK?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh, the pictures are gone now.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Kenan--For Kenny's (that's the BIRD) health, limit your use of Teflon, and NEVER EVER overheat Teflon. When overheated Teflon releases fumes that are undetectable to people, but terribly toxic to birds.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, your kitty is fine. She's just not fucking with my kitty as much as yesterday, which I feel is a good thing.

Kenny ate the much better part of an apple today. I was amazed. "Eats like a bird" is such shit.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean the pictures are gone?

Kenny eats well, but you may notice that at least half winds up under him and around him.

Tonight I ate--you'll never guess--fried foods. My boss and I ate at Jacque-Imo. Wonderful fish with mashed sweet potatoes and collards. For an app I had alligator sausage cheesecake with homemade remoulade.

For lunch we ate at Cafe Reconcile which is a place that trains at-risk youths for the restaurant industry. Cheap and good--crawfish pasta, collard greens and okra with crawfish.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and fried oysters.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

the "this one's for the ladies" pics.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh, i see. yeh, those are long gone, duder.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, Jessie -- I failed to procure Rowdybush medium-sized pellets. I instead ended up with Kaytee Exact (Exact Nutrition in Every Bite!). There's a picture of a grey parrot on the bag, and Kenny ate the shit out of it, so I'm assuming it's not going to kill him.

Also, it was expensive. But I'm sure you knew that already.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

(FFs on the radio - good news, you two!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Whew. Drinkin' at Iggy's tonight, somehow. How'd it get to be 3?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

DAY LABORERS, HELLO?!

Day laborers don't come with a truck, alas.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sure they do. They're just usually sitting in the back of it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. The plug on the radio was really good! He mentioned our name and the album alot, why he liked it, our web addy, our label, our next show... Also, it was really fun to come on after Bonnie Raitt.

In other news, remember how I was super pissed off at all my relatives and ready to cut myself off as the black sheep of the family? Well, I felt bad yesterday afternoon because I got a really nice email from my already-married cousin congratulating me. Then I got one from my super conservative uncle this morning. It sounds like everyone is coming and is excited. But what the F is this about?! (from my uncle):

We talked to your Dad and he said you are talking about children! That is wonderful news. It seems that so many young couples today don't have the time or desire for children. I'm sorry
for them, because children are the most rewarding part of life!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Unless it's full of recyclables.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants to pretend to be my illegitimate adult child at the wedding?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

It's a good thing we've all already lined up by age and height -- that should make it easier for you to choose a candidate. I would nominate Jesse, but he's outta town.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse is already my illegitimate adult child.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, is anyone going to Intonation this weekend? I'm not.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

That's too bad, Jenny. The wedding isn't until next year (6/2/07), and I agree he's the best choice. Also, he makes a great WAH! noise, which makes it more believable.

I'm not going to Intonation. You have to take sides! We're going to Pitchfork.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

"No, Dad, we're not having children - we're eating children."

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

halving children

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, I think we can work out an adoption arrangement.

Having children... FOR DINNER!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny I called you last night to see how long I should steam kale. I went with 5 min.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm wondering what my dad said to them, if anything. Maybe they're just trying to put ideas in my head.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Just hand them the CD, and tell them that these songs are your children.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I would braise kale rather than steam it, but that's just me. My current favorite kale recipe goes like this:

Saute some onion until it's transluscent.
Add some diced apples and curry powder.
Cook that for a couple minutes, then add about half a cup of chicken stock (or water if you prefer).
Deglaze, then add the kale (de-stemmed and coarsely chopped) and cook until most of the liquid is out and the kale is tender and floppy, which wouldn't be more than five minutes or so.

xpost: It's probably wishful thinking, or projection. Not to say that you don't want children - I don't know if you do or not. But my mom certainly believes that baby time is soon to follow now that Jeff and I are married. I'm going to frame a photo of my JD to keep on her desk so she has something to show people when they ask her about grandchildren.

You can do this with any bitter greens. When I made it, I threw in some mystery greens from our produce box and it came out really well.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. That last paragraph should come before the xpost. Unless you want to frame bitter greens and give them to your mother.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I do, some day, but it's not like I've been talking about it or anything, especially to my dad.

I love me some greens.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Why is Yahoo Mail being an asshole?

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't sure what to do, so I steamed and it was tasty! I put some dark sesame-chili oil on it and a dash of soy sauce. It was good. For a long time I avoided cooked vegetables, but I'm coming around.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Me, too! There's a ton of kale at the farmer's markets if you want to try that recipe.

Dark sesame chili-oil sounds like a delicious kale addition. I made a stir fry last night that involved swiss chard.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Why is Yahoo Mail being an asshole?

Here is a notice to all users of yahoo mail and hotmail, particularly those who have an unused gmail account laying around: stop it. It is in your best interests to stop it. I only tell you this because I love you and want you to be happy.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Not going to Intonation. Matt's wedding is on Saturday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah I think my family are less objectionable than yours, it sounds like? But mothers are the same everywhere: I've been single for basically YEARS and my mother never stops planning my wedding and discussing the finer points of my future parenting.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Right now she's planning my wedd for next summer, the month after my brother's graduation (spacing things out, you see). I think the real basis is actually because she was hoping we would all save ourselves for marriage(!!), and even though she still loves us it makes her uneasy to know that her unmarried offspring are OUT THERE in the world HAVING SEX. She'll be happier when we're all hitched and living within God's will for our lives.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I will be OOO on vacation starting June 22nd through July 4th. I will be back in the office on July 5th. I will not be checking voice or e-mail, so please contact another member of the --- QA team if you need anything. Thanks,

Jordan

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Now that I look at the lineup, the Intonation fest sounds more interesting than P-fork. Do I need to see Spoon again? NO. Would I like to see Roky Erickson? YES. What's my problem?

I'm tired.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, it is more interesting. Better hip-hop representation, plus Jon Brion!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Better variety overall, really. More adventurous choices. Os Mutantes bought my p-fork ticket though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

The Game of the Week
The Mountain Man Sausage (a damn tasty combination of Elk, Venison, Buffalo and Caribou) with Pomegranate Mustard Cream and Gorgonzola Dolce
$8.50

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

^^^

My white whale.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

I could eat one for you and tell you all about it. BECAUSE IT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I want all the juicy details.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've had that Tequila, Black Bean and Lime Chicken Sausage with Mexican Mustard and Pineapple-Kiwi Salsa before - so good! Anyone want to go?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately I am fourteen and a half miles away. Just too far :(

I live really close to HD's though, if anyone wants to go stand in line on the weekend.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie and I are planning on coming down sometime after I get back and eating there at least twice in one day.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, so remember how I was trying to think of a puppet that Lady Elaine Fairchilde reminded me of? Or rather a puppet that I was mistakenly picturing whenever anyone mentioned Lady Elaine? (I would quote what I actually said, but this thread is impossible to load in its entirety anymore.) Anyway:

http://www.tvacres.com/images/puppets_madame.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Let me try another one:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/BeckBeck13/puppet.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /images/puppets_madame.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Not like I really wanted to see your creepy puppet anyway.

xpost, damnit

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

So I saw my friend open at Schubas for Mike Andrews, who I knew nothing about and played some mellow/melodic songs with 4 guys that sounds like Jim O'Rourke's acoustic songs, and now today I notice that this guy produced the Metric record I'm digging so much (Old World Underground... - picked it up in Toronto and listening to it all the time now).

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't I playing that album in the car on the way to Milwaukee?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, yes, we listened to a few songs on your iPod.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I remember we talked about all the outos and structures and stuff.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.serienoldies.de/images4/wer_boss_angela.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. Laurel is a fan as well.
(xpost: of Metric, not of Judith Light.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

i want that sausage!!

intonation looks more interesting than pfork

kenan otm re: webmail services

FF album came in the mail yesterday. UNBRIDLED REVIEW FORTHCOMING.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yuss, I love Metric. Just between thee and me I feel like I own a little part of them, cos when we started going to see Stars Emily was still singing for them, for a while. And I love Stars now but I can't think too much about the fact that that voice doesn't match the girl I imagine. It's a problem. (Not really.)

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I just had lunch with my New Editorial Boyfriend and it's super weird and grown-up. LUNCH DATE? Shit.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEY

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Who is NEB? You mentioned this somewhere else, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Remeber when I declined to give details a couple of weeks ago? Yeah.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Is a New Editorial Boyfriend different from a regular ol' boyfriend?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

JAYMC I HAVE THE DEETS ON NEB IN MY VERY OWN NOTEBOOK!

HOLLA!

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think so? He's still New and I've never dated an editor before! It's nice to hang out with someone who READS. Fucking newsflash, I know. XP

Ev is in Teh Know.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

SO! Jeff and I fucked up a little...

Anybody know of anybody who either:

a) wants to sublet our apartment for the month of August at a discounted rate of $800? OR
b) wants to rent our apartment starting on 8/1 for the full market rental value (they said they are raising our current rent of $1125/month to something, but won't know what it will be until next week), but we'll pay the $35 application fee and the $250 application deposit that will be credited to your security deposit (so we would be paying for $285 worth of apartment rental costs)?

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Aw Jenny, shit! Sorry, kiddo.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. I feel kind of dumb, but that's okay. We'll figure something out. Or we'll pay double rent, which sucks but it won't be the first time.

(See, we moved into our apartment on 8/12, and paid a prorated amount of August, but our lease didn't actually start until September. We both thought it started in August until we pulled the lease out to find out when we had to notify the landlord of our decision not to renew and SURPRISE!!!)

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also, congrats on the NEB. Having attempted to carry on meaningful relationships with men who don't read, I can say that it's much, much nicer to spend time with one who does.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Word to that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Who on earth doesn't read? Philistines.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

My ex.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.wegotcards.com/cards/friends/sayings/dont.GIF

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I know otherwise smart and interesting people who only read periodicals.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

And message bbbbbbbbb....

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Periodicals count.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say, wait! Periodicals are cool, right? Harper's? Guys?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not a periodical person, or I'm sort of starting to be and I'm in awe of people who read so-and-so's essay already when it appeared in Fancy Magazine X but...I like books better.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Magazines are easier to read when you can't find a seat on the train.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Peeps, this is probably worthy of its own thread, but I don't have any clue what to say about it.

This is the web page of an author who has submitted multiple papers to one of the Journals I work for. Multiple crazy papers...

http://spnishant.googlepages.com/home

The Theory of Origin stuff is what he's been submitting.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Also, he's only fifteen! OK, that explains a lot.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Send him this link and see if he wants to sublet our apartment - http://chicago.craigslist.org/sub/173951355.html.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, he's 15 and he's submitting papers to scholarly journals? That's impressive, no matter how cracked he is.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

And he has a Fun Zone!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Step 1: Learn HTML
Step 2: Formulate unified theory of the universe
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit

He needs to start at the beginning.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, we are going to the free SHARKS show at Silvie's tonite if anyone else wants to hang. We will probably leave after Sharks because the other bands seem dumb.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

What time?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Who are the other bands and why are they dumb? Just curious, not contentious.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Ah, probably not then.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Damn I was all set to go to this and then I forgot and now I'm all set to eat a hamburger and watch Lost until 3 AM. Sorry, Sharks! I

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bringing my tv to the sharks show.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 22 June 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

it is pretty much impossible, biologically, to be dumber than a shark.

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 22 June 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

I just typed a long ass message and the Jesuit Computer logged me off for some/no reason.

I need a blog.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 22 June 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Sharks ruled. They were worth waiting for (it turned out they were playing 3rd, so they didn't start until @ 11:45).

I was having a good time before they played too though, because I was ironically enjoying this opening band. OH MY GOD. It was like... they'd start jamming on something for a second and then WHAM! out of nowhere there would be some wah wah like sound and then the jam would change up and then WHAM! there it is again! They just keep you guessing, man. But seriously, you should listen to one of their songs. I kept trying to dance, but Nick stopped me.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 22 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. They don't sound horrible from the song on their website! Although they do sound like hippie prog.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Is that what it's called? Anyway, I think you need to WATCH them to get the full effect. :-D They had one song with Jamiriquoi-like rapping. They like to mix it up.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 22 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

My summer of 1992 mixtape (get it while it's hot)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

What is there to get? Words? WORDS???

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'll happily YSI or send a CD -- less fun than an actual tape, I know, but those went the way of the dodo in my household.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, props for En Vogue and 'Too Funky'.

(the actual mixes aren't available, are they?)

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

At first I was reading the first one as yours and I was going to give you props for Bell Biv Divoe and Bobby Brown.

I was at Ian's Pizza a few months ago around 2 am, the place packed with college kids. 'Poison' came on and I swear the whole room started getting down.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

That band sounds like castrated Mr. Bungle.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Poison" is for sure one of the best songs of all-time. And I had the option of putting "Humpin' Around" on my mix (it came out in August '92) but couldn't really make it fit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Aight, I'm off for a couple of weeks (though I will have sporadic internet access). You dudes have fun.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Arrivaderci, Jordan!

...

Oh, so I saw an adorable freckle-faced little girl on the train this morning. She was with her mom and her brother, and she was wearing a shirt that read "Sugar? No Thanks, I'm Sweet Enough Already." I know there are probably dozens just like it at Gap Kids, but with her I really believed it was true.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Target last night and they had tons of those. Sample: "I Hate My Girlfriend".

(okay, I'm leaving in half an hour)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I was at Cub last night and there was a woman with a shirt like that on that said "Don't push me!" She was losing her shit at one of the clerks trying to help her with the self-checkout. They lay the irony on thick sometimes in those parts.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Or something. Sometimes I don't know what humor is anymore.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck, is it stormy there? Apparently one bandmember's flight from Mpls to O'Hare is cancelled because of bad weather and he can't get any other flights near Chicago today. I've been on hold for many, many minutes trying to find out if our flight is delayed.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I got rained on, big heavy drops, this morning. It doesn't look like it's raining here but it's still cloudy and dark. I'm a long way from O'Hare, too.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

We were at a rest stop in Ohio this weekend and saw a collection of plates that you're supposed to like stick on your truck or something, and all of them were these totally unfunny and horrible redneck slogans. I wondered for a second if there were any that weren't like that and then realized that anything not like that wouldn't appeal to the sort of people who like to stick things on their truck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

(It was lightly raining when I walked into work as well. And I did see lightning in the distance. It's dry now downtown, but skies are overcast.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

plates that you're supposed to like stick on your truck or something

"Something something my dog is better looking than my wife"

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's kind of gray out, last time I was anywhere near a window. Jordan, good luck and have a wonderful time!!!

"Forget the dog, beware of owner."
"My wife told me if I didn't stop fishing, she would leave me. I'm going to miss her."
"I wish to return to a golden age in which women were considered property that men could legally abuse, everybody had guns, and only white people held political office."

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Note: I am not making fun or rednecks or Southerners, but of people who buy plates (plates???) with misogynist or racist or moronic slogans on them.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hey. Opps. I just got an e-mail forwarded from a theater guy I know - Goose Island needs folks to pour beers at Intonation Fest from 4:30 to 10 - pay is $5/hr and free admit to the festival. Write me if you want the e-mail for the guy who's hiring.

I'm missing the fest - Mattnasta's wedding on Sat., playing Schubas on Sun.

Jeff Foxworthy is funny.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Not like dinner plates. More like placards I guess.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Like bumper stickers but solid plastic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, it's like totally sunny out now. I just bought some shoes and a Caesar salad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Check yer email, EZ.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I just bought some shoes and a Caesar salad.

Don't confuse the two.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

"These croutons are fucking tough!"

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Alternately:

http://img.costumecraze.com/images/vendors/franco/25017-main.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

(Not appropriate for a wedding, I'm guessing.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Depends on whose wedding. You totally could have worn that to ours.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I get to go to some kind of A&R slimefest at the Dubble Door tonight thanks to my bassist's job. FEAR ME, FREE BEER!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i made it home the other night but my glasses didn't. anyone know of a decent optometrist in the city?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ask John. HAHA JUST KIDDING.

Do you have eyeball insurance? If not, try lenscrafters or maybe Sears because they are cheap. I go to Level Optical on MI Ave because it's close. The doc was nice and they have a good selection of specs.

I'm sorry that you lost your glasses. That, as any full-time four eyes can attest, is a stone cold bummer.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

New frames for Kevin.

http://www.nndb.com/people/966/000051813/wasserman.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.smoothjazznow.com/Discs%20Small/dave_brubeck_plays

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.takegreatpictures.com/content/images/tip1_5326.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

So, where is that delightful young lady who usually posts here all day, I think her name is Anna or Samantha? Maybe Amanda? Where is that pleasant, good-looking, brainiac of a gal?

― A curious stranger (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you mean me? Well, I took the day off today, thanks for asking.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you do something like that? Don't you have to save vacation days in case you need them for the rest of the year?

― A curious stranger (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Actually no, because if all goes well, I am going to put in my two weeks tomorrow.

It just so happens that I am very excited about this.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, maybe you didn't understand what I'm trying to say. "Put in my two weeks" is a colloquial way of saying "I am going to quit this stinking, no-good, full-time, boring as hell job with benefits so I can spend more time teaching some motherlovers how to speak English."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

congrats, amanda!

otto, i'll second the recommendation for level optical.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Well, how about that. I was going to fire you for spending too much time on the internet anyway, but this saves us from having to worry about you filing for unemployment. Carry on, then.

― Curious Stranger (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Now you've got me humming Madonna's "Beautiful Stranger."

CONGRATS AMANDA>

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

And with that, I am off to my penultimate class. [throws scarf over shoulder haughtily and exits.]

(Thanks guys!! I am PUMPED LIKE MADONNA.)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hyped! I'm amped! Most of my heroes don't appear on no stamps!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for the recommendations, but i doubt i could get to level optical before they close. lenscrafters it is.

why is amanda talking to herself?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Some sort of inner monologue, I think.

Congrats, teach!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

i'm wearing a pair of old specs today and now have the BIGGEST FUCKING HEADACHE. plus i've been squinting in my left eye to the point where i'm pretty much working on a monoptical vision. say goodbye depth perception.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't had ANY glasses for a few weeks now. It sucks because I have to wear my contacts right up until I'm ready to go to sleep. Then once I take them out I can't change my mind and read a magazine or anything.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Congratulations, Amanda!!!! YEAH!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I have to make a poopie.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, Amanda! (And yay, jesse.)

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember if I made that poopie. I am pretty sure I must have. Yup, there it is.

Tonight it is a hot fucking bitch here--it feels like noon on the beach out there right now, but it's no biggie, especially since my boss took us to the drive-through daiquiri place.

I felt like I was doing something wrong as I got into the car with my 22 oz. Paradise Punch daiquiri (she had a 32 oz double Bellini), but the laws are on our side. What was probably not OK was sipping on it while cruising along down the gorgeous blocks of St. Charles, but she's the boss so when she says drink, I say, "How deeply?"

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

I recommend that everyone (re)read Confederacy of Dunces. There is a staged reading of it going on over the weekend somewhere downtown.

I probably should not be saying this, but I think of my group the Catholics are my favorites. They might be innocent at times, but they not ignorant of carnality and they are the most fun and their approach to social justice work is very grounded in the fact that it's for the people who are getting fucked and not solely for the glory of God with humans simply being a vehicle for praising God and his posse.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

NO can stand for more than New Orleans; it can stand for NO left turns. Virtually every significant (not even major) intersection that has neutral ground (all major streets have "neutral ground" which is NO for "median") does not allow left turns. What you have to do is go to a smaller intersection or a place in between blocks where there is a paved area over the neutral ground and do a U-turn. I don't really know how this is safer, especially considering that a number of the major streets have street cars running down the neutral ground.

The drivers here are crazy nice. They always always let you in and in the proud Southern tradition, intersections with Stop signs are regulated by courtesy and some unarticulatable hierarchy in which you go when it seems right to go. I think part of this Stop sign weirdness has to do with the fact of so much uncertainty about which street has the Stop sign--a lot of the signs got turned around in the storm, so sometimes you have the undesireable situation of one Stop sign facing say North and the other East when what you want is for one to face North and the other South. It's a nice metaphor for the uncertainty in New Orleans and for the spirit of co-operation that many are working to build.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

The main reasons I don't write in a blog

- I am unsure of how to manage privacy and professionality since this deals with my work, and a number of the interns actively seek out NOLA pics, blogs and other info.

- I am reluctant to give up the "conversational" atmosphere of ILX and FRM.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

OH GREAT - http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-sears23.html

Now everybody I work with (next to the Sears Tower) is going to be all weirded out and ready to start arresting random people out of fear and stuff and junk.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse -- if you start a LiveJournal, you can limit your readership to only your friends (it's very good with filters), and maintain the conversational dynamic via comments.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

During God Camp we did a prayer in which the whole room was united saying something about Allah's strength. And something like Allahem explodich Searsum Towerech.

I think I have a LiveJournal account.

I think I should become a Buddhist.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

BIG NEWS, AMANDA!!! And will there be more free time for socializing and cooking for Dan and girl-piling?? Because I know where yr heart really is.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

girl-piling??

don't know what this is but i really think i should find out.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

And will there be more free time for socializing and cooking for Dan and girl-piling?? Because I know where yr heart really is.
YOU KNOW ME TOO WELL. Yes. And cooking for me and my girl-piles too.

Last night I woke up in a terror worrying that this was the wrong decision and that I'm going to freak out when I have 4 classes to teach and then I remembered: I always freak out. This is totally normal. I just have to wait it out.

Ok, I'm going to draft my goodbyes now. Wish me luck!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Don't freak out, doll, this is all good. Go and be neurotic in a closet somewhere and then come back and get to work on the Good Stuff.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

good luck good luck good luck.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

cuetness to battle neuroses (i've been GISing for myself because NOT A GOOD FUCKING MORNING).

http://www.online-thecatsmeow.com/images/catbunny1a.jpg

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hello sweet babies!

You need one of these, Juuuuuuuulia:
http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/mammal/meerkat/meerkat01.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

That's some good cuteness.

Jesse, get a live journal account.

Amanda, I am so freaking excited for you. Four classes! This is beyond fabulous. You are now the BUTTERFLY out of the cocoon! Or, if, like me, you are a recently converted Lost fanatic, a MOTH out of the cocoon!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting nervous re: insurance things. I might wait an extra week. Should I, if that means going to the dentist on the cheap? I sort of think it's worth it, but...I dunno. I really want out too. Then again, I waited this long, a couple of days is not going to make that much difference.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.pinatas.com/photos/PS918-N-2T.jpg

i like that its eyes are kinda crossed.

have you just seen that (moth) episode, jenny, or are you done with s1 yet?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

would your insurance stop as soon as you quit? maybe it would be best to have a dentist appointment right away and quit the next day or something? and any other benefitsy appointments that might be good to have done...

and then you can LEAVE and BOOYAH.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that's what i was thinking. i can wait a couple more days.

so no exciting "i quit" news for today i guess. that's fine. i'm still doing it, just not today.

sorry for jumping the gun.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

you can always extend your insurance under cobra.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

you can be planning your quitting and writing the goodbyes and feeling all smug knowing that you're getting the fuck out of that godforsaken place soon, though!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

cobra can be expensive though, depending. i dunno, it's been forever since i've dealt with it. maybe it's not as bad right after you leave a job.

amanda, can you tell your dentist it's EXTREMELY IMPORTANT you get in and get an appointment for monday or tuesday or sometime really really soon?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

even dental? that's what i'm worried about. the rest of me will (hopefully) be ok because i'm getting piano-on-head insurance, but my teeth aren't in great shape and i want to make sure they're good before i lose that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Um, is there something you want to tell us?

― Your employers (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dang, Amanda, I think you should quit anyway. But I hate planning big life changes and then waiting for them to take complete effect.

Lost - We watched up until the end of the episode that gives Claire's backstory. Well, actually, Jeff fell asleep so he did not get THOROUGHLY FUCKING CREEPED OUT like I did. That one was great - the ending was brilliant and totally eerie. I was walking into the kitchen to get a glass of water and brushed against a newspaper or something and JUMPED about ten feet into the air.

I still think that Stephen King has to have something to do with this. The old "fingernails dug into the palms" thing is a standard King convention!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

No, daerest employers, give me a couple days, then I will tell you.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, cobra covers dental, but you'd have to check on the monthly fees.

with a quicktime file, can you not save it by right clicking anymore? it says PRO (which i'm assuming is a paid version of it), and does nothing when i try to save as source.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

i don't remember the specifics of that bit of lost, but the general feel of it was memorable enough--great stuff!

i don't think they have anything to do with stephen king, but were probably inspired by him....

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

amanda, if you're worried about the cost of the cobra insurance i'd take the advice upthread and tell your dentist that it's muy importante that you get in before x date.

a friend of mine from memphis has been all over me the last two days about trying to help him book a show in chicago. next time he should give me more than 16 days notice. it's cal's or no place at this point.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

or if you just need a routine checkup and your dentist can't do one til later, see about finding someone else on your health plan, just for a cleaning, who could make an appointment right away.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Good advice -- I am going to wait at least til Monday and then I will call the dentist. I have major dentist fear issues and he will understand that I need to get in to see HIM right away. He even had to prescribe V@lium for me once. It's really no big deal. I have been waiting for this day for over three years, so a day or two? NO BIGGIE.

(that was for jaymc)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/23179689/1077683

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

(i am in a mood)

ugh dentist fear. that sucks.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

goddamn blocked urls at work... would someone be so kind as to post the intonation schedule? and how much tix are? 'cause i'd like to see the tyrades but if they're the only ones i want to see tomorrow i'll more than likely pass.

please? thank you!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

6.24.2006
9:20pm THE STREETS
8:45pm LADY SOVEREIGN
7:50pm GHOSTFACE
6:55pm BOREDOMS
6:05pm ROKY ERICKSON
5:20pm THE STILLS
4:35pm HIGH ON FIRE
3:50pm CHROMEO
3:10pm JOSE GONZALEZ
2:30pm DEVIN THE DUDE
2:00pm 90 DAY MEN
1:30pm ERASE ERRATA
1:00pm FAVOURITE SONS

6.25.2006
9:05pm BLOC PARTY
8:15pm DEAD PREZ
7:15pm ROBERT POLLARD
6:15pm JON BRION
5:30pm BLUE CHEER
4:55pm THE SWORD
4:20pm LUPE FIASCO
3:45pm ANNIE
3:10pm RHYMEFEST
2:30pm CONSTANTINES
2:00pm PANTHERS
1:30pm BILL DOLAN
1:00pm TYRADES

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

two day pass:
$35 in advance
$40 at the gate

for one day it looks like $20

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not waiting around for 4 1/2 hours between bands i want to see. but a thousand thank yous for posting that juulia. maybe i'll just walk down there and listen to 'em outside the fence.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Yo-Yo Ma's Silk Road Ensemble is playing Monday eve in Millenium Park for free, 6:30 pee-em. Classical musicians playing traditional Asian music - the bits I've heard are pretty neat. Faire de la piq-nique?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, get a live journal account.

Ugh. No. I'm thinking about starting up a blog on blogthing, because it's free, the ads are those very unintrusive google text ads that you can even modify to match your blog, and, well, I think I'm letting my old site go. It's down right now, no so much due to non-payment as to non-giving-a-shit. I hadn't updated it in ages, the email addies long ago turned to irredeemable spam traps, and I think I had learned all I was ever going to learn about back-end web development from a shared remote server. If I want to blog and post pictures and play with CSS, that's all free. Email? Free. Music sharing? YSI, bitchez. So what on earth was I paying $15 a month for? That's really high anyway, nowadays. So fuck it. Giganticmag is no more. I do not expect much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

xpost to Jesse long ago -- They're not driving like that because the street signs are turned around. They're driving like that because of a unique combination of southern driving "politeness" -- the kind that won't let you honk at someone because it's rude, but will let you shoot someone because it's your God-given right -- and narrow, old-world, backward-ass streets. There's nothing quite like driving in NO.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I want help naming my new blog. I got nothin'.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with JMC on Livejournal for Jesse, for the privacy options, given his work and all. He can slander freely there behind private posts.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

COBRA coverage is prohibitively expensive. You must pay what your employer pays for your insurance, plus up to an additional 10% administive fee. You're probably looking at $350-500 a month to extend your insurance under COBRA.

It's a nice idea, but utterly impractical in the real world. It's basically there so that people with "preexisting conditions" don't get fucked into losing even more money if they go for more then 60 days without coverage and then can't find an insurance carrier to cover their insulin shots or what have you.

xpost: I also support the LJ decision for Jesse. Also because of the chatty nature of the comments.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

well, if amanda's insurance was anything like mine when i extended my coverage, my employer had long ago stopped paying anything towards insurance as one of it's cost cutting measures. so there wasn't really that much of a hit for me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it's not going to make that much of a difference. my insurance sucks. dental, though, is nice to have. let's not talk about it anymore. it's making me queasy.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, why are you down on LJ? It seems like the best solution for Jesse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

He's Kenan. He is down on things. That what he does.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

i could really use something from a bakery right about now. some sort of pastry would be fantastic. and hot rich coffee. or some eggs. anything, really.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

LJ seems best due to the filters. Or a *shudder* MySpace blog. I just don't want a student, ally or arch-nemesis stumbling on some sensitive/slanderous or just plain honest blogging.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

And Kenan, believe me, I know about Southern driving habits, but this is special. And the signs are all jacked up and turned around.

Tomorrow we may be gutting a house with Bill Quigley as a team-building activity, and I have to think about whether I need to decline to do so given my health and the potential for toxic mold poisoning.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, a pastry sounds good.

cheese danish.

oh god no, don't do a myspace blog.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Two hypnopompic dreams, one from yesterday and one from today:

1. Bjork is watching a video of herself talking, maybe an interview. "I don't really sound like that, do I? God, I sound like the most Icelandic person ever!"

2. A billboard depicting black-and-white photos of old cinematic gangsters and detectives, like for a monthlong AMC tribute to film noir or something. Classic shot of Bogart-as-Marlowe, for instance. Off to the side, Rosie O'Donnell in color, smiling and giving a thumbs up. Tagline at top: "Men Even I Can Like."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I would like MySpace a helluva lot more if people didn't have the option of fucking with the template and adding music and fireworks and giant YouTube videos and candy-heart wallpaper and animated gifs and quiz results and the like.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know about LJ filters. That does make it sound better. I guess I'm down on LJ because a) it's ugly, b) it's not very customizable, c) it's very oriented to "connecting" you to "communities" of people. And people are idiots.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

if people didn't have the option of fucking with the template and adding music and fireworks and giant YouTube videos and candy-heart wallpaper and animated gifs and quiz results and the like

Is MySpace noise?

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

i think the answer here is a DIARY.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I'd be fine with most of those customizable features on MySpace if they didn't make my computer freeze half the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Why did I just watch a YouTube video of Miami Heat star Dwayne Wade on Letterman? I wonder if Wade caught a lot of flak when A Different World was popular. I mean, he would've been like 8 years old at the time, but still.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

i fucking hate myspace. but i suppose it's useful--it illustrates through the flashy colors and the animated wtf stuff how annoying some people really are.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Why did I just watch a YouTube video of Miami Heat star Dwayne Wade on Letterman?
You have decided to begin storing archival video in your masterfile?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

He's Kenan. He is down on things. That what he does.

It's so true. I find a good kvetch as satisfying as a bowl of ice cream.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Dear workplace: Please upgrade my computer to something more recent than fucking Windows NT. Thank you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Myspace blogs are googlable, I'm pretty sure. At the very least, your myspace page is. I'd still stick to LJ.

I'm still having fun finding people with my myspace profile, but I don't spend a lot of quality time with annoying, blinky, hard to read profiles. Although a good friend of mine from the crazy college years has one of the annoyingest, blinkiest, sparkliest, hardest to read profiles I done ever did see.

Dwayne Wade talks like he's got a mouthfull of peanut butter.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

i think the answer here is a DIARY.

But it would have to be a diary that he photocopied and sent to everyone every day!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

What band do you need a show for, otto? When?

I am a stressomatic today, but not about work. I just ate a Stringle, which helped a little. Everyone needs more cheese.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Jesse, on the subject of N.O. literature, you should also read The Moviegoer by Walker Percy, if you haven't already.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

sarah, it's no one you would've heard of, these are there first shows that won't be at the buccaneer lounge in the river city. they're called the b@rb@ras and they're looking to be in town july 11th. apparently they thought they had a show somewhere and it fell through. i told my friend to get in touch with the people at cal's as there wasn't a show listed for that night. i have no idea who they'll play with.

basically he's f'd in the a at this point.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry to hear that.

I feel like shit. I was stressed out about something this morning. Then lunchtime came to save the day. I didn't bring enough lunch, so I made popcorn. Then I ate AN ENTIRE BAG of microwave popcorn all by myself REALLY quickly. Then I got really sleepy and my stomach hurt. Then I found out I did something wrong (something dumb - I was supposed to request for a roundtrip messenger service earlier instead of one way) so now my company won't get some checks they needed immediately, so I was scolded for that (by a supremo bitch, but anyway...). Now it's time for me to do some heavy physical stuff to start packing for the move and cleaning out closets, and I feel gross.

THE END

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I mean my company's move, not my personal move.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

You like to move it move it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oooo I just got the email about the socially conscious CNSTA/FF show at Betty's Blue Star Lounge. That sounds like capital-F fun!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Life'll get better, Sarah.

I've had quite the productive day. May make some good cash if picked for a photo shoot for the CSO - if it happens, you'd see my body with a brass instrument in the place of my head, apparently. Turns out the photographer's assistant was at the Casey D. show at my place just because she's a fan of hers, so that was a fun surprise.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

You like to move it move it.
Oh, Amanda. That makes me so happy, especially with the photo of the meerkat upthread.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I try!
http://dalliance.net/b3ta/meerkat.jpg

Today has been up and down for me too, so I feel ya. I thought we had a $5,124 hospital bill but it turns out that it's less than that thanks to D's insurance, but we don't know how much less. Ugh. Hospitals.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

chicago i want to shoot myself in the head.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hello?

Yeah, I'm lookin' for Rhythm.

Rhythm?

Yeah, she's a dancer. She there?

90s eurodance youtube hilarity for the glum

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

youtube blocked. hilarity on hold, the glum continues.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rwu.edu/NR/rdonlyres/16AE77E3-2B62-4AD0-8D52-99D102086E34/4124/Combo4test.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

glum and hungry!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

although that now replaces kenan's "shut up kevin" picture as my desktop wallpaper.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/effyoutoo/desktop-1.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

come to party

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

You guys need to all come to the Sharks party tonight and let loose with me. xpost

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know any sharx and i don't think it would be appropriate to introduce them to the side of my personality that will be out tonight. but i do need to blow off some steam.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

They are very welcoming. You could be our guest. Did Nick email you the addy? Well, call us if you want to come and he didn't.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Or email Nick.

BYE!!!!!! WEEEEEEEKKKKKKEEEEEENNNNNNDDDDDD, HIIIIIII!!

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Last night I was feeling a little jittery while watching Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, and I thought it was because I was nervous for the show. Peter Sagal does not exactly exude confidence on-stage, and I kept being aware of the editing process as the show wore on -- like, if a panelist's joke fell flat, I'd not only cringe at the unfunniness, but then also worry about how they were going to edit it out in post-production.

Anyway, I was less nervous afterwards, when I had a beer with my dad at this weird bar on Dearborn and Van Buren that deej and I went to once. But now I'm feeling jittery again, and I'm wondering if it's because I haven't had a cigarette since Tuesday night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Reading the above message, I'm struck that it reads like a short blog post. Today, Th0mas Insk33p, who writes for $tylus, commented on my blog that I need to "blog more" and not just post links to my $tylus articles. And I guess I would like to, but remembering Jesse's comment earlier about how he values the potential for dialogue inherent in ILX and not always inherent in blogs, I'm much more drawn to this thread as a forum for the random detritus in my skull. The problem is, this is seen as a "lesser" form of writing, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

OMG you went to a taping of wait wait don't tell me! I've always wanted to go to one of those. But I was under the naive impression that it was broadcast as it was taped and I don't know that I want to pierce that veil, nawmean?

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 23 June 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ya, I naw.

It's still worth going to, I think. Tickets are $20. It's taped every Thursday night, unless they're on location somewhere else -- I think it was in Kansas City last week -- and then broadcast over the weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN STROGER BAKED ME A PIE

IT WAS BLUEBERRY -- YUM YUM!

THE FACT THAT HE DID THIS ALL FROM HIS DEATHBED SAYS MUCH ABOUT THIS POWERFUL AFRICAN-AMERICAN POLITICIAN OF OUR TIME

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

I can't wait to ride the Pink Line. I hope there are lots of homosexuals aboard.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

i got the e-mail, i'm too contrarian to be around people who don't know that i'm not always an asshole. i'm going to the fireside for the first time in praobably three years tonight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

New Xiu Xiu album = extradorinary.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

I just posted that on ILM, actually.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Friday, 23 June 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

GOD I CANNOT WAIT TO BE EATING PIZZA IN ONE HOUR

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

i just made myself a huge dinner of sausage and biscuits. ineed a nap. my favorite cigarette is the one after a greasy meal. yum.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 23 June 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I ALSO CANNOT WAIT TO HAVE A CIGARETTE

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 June 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

i've got the whitesox game on mute and have side 1 of flip your wig cranked the fuck up. a pre-emptive "go screw" to the husker-haters. green eyes? divide and conquer? games? SOLID GOLD, BABY!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

Top three least favorite sounds that Kenny makes now:

3) There was a smoke alarm running down on batteries somewhere in the building for a couple of days, and now he makes that noise sometimes. A short, piercing electronic shreik.

2) Me angrily saying, "Hey!" which is usually my first response when the cats start going at each other (which they still do provided they're not hungry or otherwise distracted from how filled with hate they both are). I don't want the bird imitating me yelling at anything. Too late.

1) A disgusting fart noise. I do not know how much Jesse farts, or if Kenny made this noise before I got here, but he has picked up on the specific time of day that I usually do this -- first thing in the morning. So when it's early and he wants out out of his cage, he makes a fart sound. It's a morning sound to him. This is, needless to say, pretty gross.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Jesse, on the subject of N.O. literature, you should also read The Moviegoer by Walker Percy, if you haven't already.

How weird that you should mention that because I just walked to the kitchen to get a mug of tomato juice and happened to glance at a shelf where I saw The Moviegoer and thought how that is one of my favorite books and how I should get on here to recommend it.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

Kenny enjoys a nice french fry:

http://static.flickr.com/71/173582775_207f3f1636.jpg?v=0

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Kenny makes a variety of noises that sound like farts, nose-blowing and burps. It is nothing if not charming.

Cool pic.

Did I mention NO AVOCADOS??? and NO OVERHEATED TEFLON!!!

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

You did. And anyway, I looked all this stuff up. And I'm not doing much cooking or purchasing of anything as expensive as avacadoes.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

I can't tell if he's making a phone ringing noise, or if the phone is ringing, so I get up to check every time. It's like he's training me.

I am very much enjoying having a pet around that is this much smarter than a silly cat.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Although, on another note, Jesse, when your kitty wants love, she *throws* herself at me. It's nothing less than charming. And she is of course warm and furry and comforting.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

Kenny keeps imitating a dial tone, seven digits. Whose phone number is that?

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

Not a dial tone, the sound of dialing a number. You know what I mean.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

No idea. Brenda is quite the attention slut.

I wish I could see her and your kitty together.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

What a fucking week, and what a day. I have 3 interns at my house right now and I put them all in the room with the hole in the wall and am keeping my room for just me. What do you think about that?

Positive note to end the week: after a very trying day that involved claiming some free furniture from a church, getting very lost on badly dictated and copied and interpreted driving instructions and a childish display of impudence from an intern, my boss turned to me on the way to the airport and said, "I'm really glad that our first hire fell through so we could hire you. You're very nimble."

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.curiouskids.com/images/sadhu_contortionist.JPG

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

My first pass at clipping Brenda's nails was... let's just say, it didn't end in disaster. But I don't want to talk it up too much.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wait a fucking second. Those last two posts were me, not Jesse. Nevermind. The effect is ruined.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, do you think you're going to be rambunctious enough to put caps on her toenails? Is my couch fairly unscathed?

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Rambunctious? I think I'll just clip her claws instead.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was just listening to Paul Simon "You Can Call Me Al" and went to the Sharks myspace page and their music started playing as well. It was a good mashup.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

The car wash place on broadway should be renamed "Sexual Harassment Car Wash and Hot Wax" and subtitled "You want to check out the inside of my car?"

I need another shower.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 24 June 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

i too need another shower. except i haven't taken my first one yet. hangover + coffee + cigarettes = jitteryjitteryjitteryjitteryjittery.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 24 June 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Kenan about the new Xiu Xiu. They are at LSA on Oct. 27, every one come.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's just so solid. Pitchfork complained that "Boy Soprano" doesn't really go anywhere as a single, and I guess I can see that, but as track 2 on the album it's just perfect -- raises the stakes, so to speak. It all works together so well as an album. And for the first time, there are no failed experiments, no songs that make me go, "Ok, that's a bit much." Favorite album so far this year.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I just got a new iPod. My old one died this morning. Never given me a lick of trouble, then on the train this morning it just kinda stopped playing, and I revived it for another few songs, but then it decided that it had had about enough of my shit. I thought maybe the battery was dead, so I plugged it in to charge it, got some kind of weird "safe mode" b&w display, and the computer didn't know what it was. So off to the Apple store, where they had a look at it for about three minutes and then handed me another one. Easy as that. I was surprised. I was afraid I was going to have to leave it there for repair or something. But no, they have dozens of iPods under the counter, and when they get a dead one, they just pull out a new box. Hooray!

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

So... 2006 is almost 1/2 over. Best albums so far:

Xiu Xiu - The Air Force
Boris - Pink
Lily Allen - Alright Still
Destroyer - Rubies
Ellen Aillen & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles
Booka Shade - Movements
Charalambides - A Vintage Burden
Matmos - The Rose Has Teeth etc.
Scott Walker - The Drift
Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That
Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit

From last year, but still in heavy rotation:

Serena Maneesh
Rolling Stones - A Bigger Bang
Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock and Roll

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and the new Herbert is growing on me quickly.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

haha Nevermind Art Brut has only been out a month or so officially. I've had it a lot longer than that, I know. So put it in the 2006 column.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

And Oh! I forgot the Soul Jazz Tropicalia comp. That's awesome.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

We are similar.

Vulture Piano is a great great great song. It could be a radio hit.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Did you find the AM Gold tracklisting?

1. Rick Nelson - Garden Party
2. Gordon Lightfoot - Sundown
3. Jim Croce - Operator
4. Gilbert O'Sullivan - Alone Again (Naturally)
5. Jackson Browne - Doctor My Eyes
6. Dobie Gray - Drift Away
7. The Allman Brothers Band - Blue Sky
8. The Marshall Tucker Band - Can't You See
9. Seals and Crofts - Summer Breeze
10. Cat Stevens - Wild World
11. The Stone Ponies - Long Long Time
12. Carole King - So Far Away
13. Billy Joel - Vienna
14. Elton John - Harmony
15. Jim Croce - New York's Not My Home
16. Joni Mitchell - Chelsea Morning
17. Gordon Lightfoot - Beautiful
18. The Doobie Brothers - It Keeps You Running

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh thank you thank you! I knew I posted it on a Chicago thread, but couldn't find it in a search for some reason.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I searched for "drift away" and "hate"

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

Oh! And Man Man. How could I forget Man Man? I've been listening to too much music to keep straight in myhead.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I will not recant my decision to include "Drift Away." I'm sticking to my guns.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

It could be a radio hit.

I sincerely doubt that.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I was being facetious. Stewart has said that this is their pop record. WB is totally going to sign them.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://imagegen.last.fm/overallnamostylewoborder/oartists/corpse.gif

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Those 10 acts would make a great 2-day concert.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

My list isn't nearly as interesting.

1 Steely Dan 281
2 Brian Eno 266
3 Andrew Bird 170
4 Talking Heads 169
5 Stevie Wonder 159
5 Miles Davis 159
7 Kanye West 157
8 Tom Waits 155
8 The Rolling Stones 155
10 David Bowie 151

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

I desperately need the Office Suite for my laptop! I can't get anything done without it, except very simple word processing on Wordpad, but that ain't enough. HELP!

It looks like we will only have access to our office from 8 AM to 5:30 PM, at least at first because it is rehabbed building and we are the only tenants in it right now. This is unfortunate.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have a LJ account and I have finally gotten a start. I just need to upload my pics.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

if only you still had a oink account.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

I am in a room with three other guys who are also on their laptops. On a Saturday night, in New Orleans.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

FUNBUST

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sonic Youth 141
Canasta 138
Annie 135
Stereolab 118
Joni Mitchell 116
Kelley Polar 113
Junior Boys 95
Boards of Canada 95
Steely Dan 87
Kanye West 87

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

annie? really??? cripes.

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

i don't really understand the annie. i wish i had the discipline to plug in my ipod as soon as i got home, so that last.fm would record everything i listen to at work and in transit, b/c home listens are such a small subset of my listening habits.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

hi john

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

1 Sarah Slean 181
2 Glenn Gould 162
3 The Ditty Bops 160
4 Edith Frost 155
5 The Innocence Mission 151
6 Sam Roberts 129
7 Paul Simon 113
8 Chuck Prophet 111
9 Thea Gilmore 106
10 Jesca Hoop 98

Bias here is that a few of these artists have albums I bought through iTunes, so I'm bound to listen to them more than others on there because I don't own the CD.

P.S. Mattnasta is now a married man.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:36 (nineteen years ago)

hi evan. hi eric.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:41 (nineteen years ago)

ALERT: I have received not one but TWO virus emails to my .mac account in the last two days. That's two virus emails disguised as "ACCOUNT ALERTS" from .mac itself, that say click here or we'll suspend your account OH WAIT THAT LINK IS A VIRUS.

The salad days? They are over.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 25 June 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

````ööéäàà£££££££üüü

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^caught a virus

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

I am at a cafe eating a muffelata, which is this amazing sandwich that consists of salami, melted mozzerela, and an olive spread--I guess it's a tapenade, but they don't call it that here. A muffelata is the food of Jesus.

Speaking of whom, I had to coordinated getting the interns to church this morning. Next week I will be attending church in order to make contacts.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's missing from NO? Spare-changers, crack-heads and crazies. I just became aware of that.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, muffaletta. (Pronounced different than it's spelled.) I'm sure Jordan is with you on those.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's missing from NO? Spare-changers, crack-heads and crazies.

Surely this is somehow storm-related.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I would imagine so. Though in the Quarter yesterday there were a number of crazy-drunk people.

That muffaletta is a SALTY sandwich. The olive stuff is basically an olive-based giardinera without pepperoncini, and that is very salty, but when combined with salami and cheese, it's a salt sandwich. With a side of salt in the form of fries.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

I have found 3 spellings of that sandwich. I am confused.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Mufuletta seems to be the most popular/accepted of those spellings.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Sunday, 25 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

the uplift mofoletta party plan

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

The sound of a violin makes Kenny really happy. I discovered this while playing Andrew Bird, but what really makes him go nuts is Hilary Hahn playing Bach partitas for solo violin. Come to think of it, this makes me really happy, too.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Come on down to Schubas tonight (or up for you Uke Villagers) - I'm on at 9 - could even get you on the list mebbe if you send me a note soon...

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

I never responded to Jordan saying he liked the Triosk + Jan Jelinek record. I just want to say that I'm glad he liked it. I like it a lot, too.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody buy our car:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/175375436.html

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody will. That's a great car.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny! Jeff! You have to come over sometime and see my new place! Which, you know, you've seen. But I'm in it now, and that should make all the difference.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, whoever parked that car is awesome at parallel parking.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. If only we knew who parked that car, he'd get a box of chocolates.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

I have called you and Jenny both, and damnit, I want some attention.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

My immaturity level is rising.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Sunday, 25 June 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, just come over to my place, it's right off of Broadway, at the corner of Audubon and Fontainbleau.

Wow, the car is shiny! I wish I had that car because I have a Chevy Cobalt and a Chevy Cavalier, both of which have manual locks and windows and ZERO trunk space. That makes it hard to move the computer equipment and potential intern furniture if they should find something they want to buy.

The thrift shops here are a little crap, because most everything used is destroyed.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

Shit. I forgot to get a receipt for the gas I bought today, so it looks like this tank is on me.

Kenan, take more pics. I wanna see the kitties interacting.

― dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

i just quit.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

AWESOME! did you give your two weeks or no?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

yes i did. i feel WEIRD and jittery and excited.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

that's FREEDOM you're feeling!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

awesome!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

I am a lover of freedom and a hater of tyranny.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

and with two weeks, you can get a dental appointment and all that.

i woke up all cranky but now it's raining on my feet because the window's open. which i kind of like. and, as always, there is cuteness on the internet.

http://www.critteraid.co.uk/images/other/meercat.jpg

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

That guy looks like he needs some ears.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

I just quit, too.

No, I'm kidding. I'm going to be here until I'm old and gray.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday I was riding the El and when we got to Grand it said "This is Grand...and state." wtf.

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, all the trains do that now. As of yesterday, near as I can tell. They call out the intersection at every stop. Which is really useful, if you think about it.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

something i've noticed on the 49 bus heading south, when the bus announces the stop for madison for the past few weeks it's been saying "Madison- Transfer to Blue Line". today it said "Madison- Transfer to Blue and Pink Lines". Where the hell is there a stop within walking distance of Madison and Western? i mean sure, if you hop on the madison bus you can transfer eventually but if that's the case why not have the same announcement at jackson?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I noticed the intersection thing today on the Brown Line: "This is Chicago ... and Franklin."

I was in Pilsen yesterday afternoon and got really excited when I passed the 18th St. station, because it's now a Pink Line station. The train came down the track from overhead, and I darted to see the pink "54th/Cermak" sign in the windows of each car. I was very tempted to run up and ride it for a few stops, but I think Kr would've rolled her eyes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Since the trains no longer say "This is Grand" we may have to start a new thread.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: And by the way, which one's pink?

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Also, worth making the pilgrimage to Pilsen: the Cocoa Azteca (Mexican hot chocolate) at Cafe Mestizo. Good God, that stuff is tasty.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

but I think Kr would've rolled her eyes.

This didn't stop me from making an ill-advised joke about "riding [her] Pink Line."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

ew. Don't do that.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually in favor of starting a new thread. Six weeks seems long enough, esp. since we're now the longest-running thread in ILX history. And as I said the other day, it's impossible to load if you want to search for something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) It was in good fun. :D

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

title suggestions?

* Chicago rides the Pink Line
* Chicago likes pancakes at the Golden Nugget

etc.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

"This is Chicago ... and Franklin."

come to think of it, i heard this on saturday but i so rarely ride the brown line that i wasn't sure if it had always done that. i didn't think it did but i wasn't sure. i remember when i first came to chicago (and even for a while after i moved here) the announcement was for "Liberry, State, and Van Burnen". i was kind of sad when they fixed that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

and i'm still partial to "Chicago: If Hepatitis Was Attacking Your Face Instead of Your Liver You'd Be Doing Something About It".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

So I made it to Intonation Fest yesterday after all. I wasn't planning on going, because of Matt's wedding on Saturday, but for some reason it didn't occur to me that I could still go on Sunday. That is, not until Kr and I accidentally drove by Union Park on our way back from Pilsen yesterday. And I was like, oh! So we paid our $20 and stuck around for Lupe Fiasco, The Sword, Blue Cheer, and Jon Brion. The performances were sort of disappointing ... Lupe's "Kick Push" is hot, but I wasn't really feeling the rest of his set; The Sword was kinda ridiculous stoner-metal; Blue Cheer was fun only because the lead singer was a total 60s hippie throwback who addressed the crowd in this growly "hey maaaaaan" voice, but they also closed their set with "Summertime Blues"; and Jon Brion's thing, where he did a mostly solo set by looping and multitracking all the different instruments on stage by himself, would've been fun in a nightclub in L.A. but didn't really work in an outdoor festival setting. He also made a huge announcement about bringing out an amazing guest musician, one of his favorite people to work with, and everyone in the crowd was murmuring "Is it KANYE??" -- and then he brought out the keyboardist from the Heartbreakers (as in Tom Petty and the...). Um yeah. I would've liked to have seen Bloc Party, but I didn't want to wait through Bob Pollard and Dead Prez, so we left.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

i could've gone but played with dogs instead.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

xpost That sounds thoroughly lame.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it was still fun, though!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

The Pitchfork festival is what's really going to be great. I don't know whay they bothered with Intonation.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

to make $$$ would be my guess.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

And as Amanda said the other day, it was a more adventurous bill. I mean, even if the performances themselves were disappointing, the diversity of the four acts I saw was pretty spectacular.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I would have loved to have seen the Boredoms. Other than that, the lineup was kinda meh. I mean, points for trying and all that, but does anyone ever need to see Jon Brion live?

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I really want to see him live at Largo next time I'm in L.A.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Dead Prez were great john! Fred Hampton Jr. was there and he gave a (charismatic) speech about how shitty it was that the city cancelled plans to rename that small stretch of Monroe "Fred Hampton Way."

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know who they are!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think either lineup is particularly great but jesus at least vice had the nerve to invite non-indie rock.

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/68/40/296922-resized200.JPG

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Unless of course yr counting the 'dance tent' at pfork.

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

huhuh yeah. Electronic music sure is stupid.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

hardly what i'm saying.
Also I think the main reason pfork and intonation are two seperate festivals is, uh, they're two completely different organizations.

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm unclear on what happened between pfork/intonation last year and their being two separate festivals this year.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Listen, if you're not still arguing about this on Tuesday, July 11, does anybody want to go to the No Exit cafe with me to see a performance artist pull an American flag out of her butt? Because, seriously, how can you miss that?

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

pitchfork decided that they could do it themselves since they had the brand name, the guys who put together the intonation last year have more experience in event planning and already had the name and park booked.

everyone wanted all the money for themselves is what it gets distilled to. sorry for the preposition position.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Finley? Annie Sprinkle? Who could this be, Jenny?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Judith Harding, who is a friend of my friend Sarah's (not Johnson) sister, or something.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone see the Acro-cats? My coworker went and said that it was great. Cats + instruments = gold

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

If it was a Canadian flag, I'd be in love.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

So...since I brought it up, anyone have an opinion on this? I'm having a hard time seeing the 'other side' of this issue really, it seems pretty clear that Hampton is certainly more deserving of a street name than say, Italian fascist Balbo or Ronald Reagan.

Police perspective

some crazy creepy conservative dude

Chicago Defender editorial

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

hampton jr.'s myspace

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Personally, I think naming a street after Fred Hampton would be great. But I'm not at all surprised that the city won't do it.

"It's a dark day when we honor someone who would advocate killing policemen and who took great advantage of the communities he claimed to have been serving. We have real, everyday heroes within the department who would be better honored than someone of the stature of Fred Hampton."

Right. How can anybody think that an ordinance to change a street name to Chairman Fred Hampton Way would pass? The Chicago Defender is right, I think, about Hampton's justification for his "kill the pigs" comments, but it's so naive to believe that the police would see it from this perspective. Police loyalty runs deep to a fault. And (white) people in power are without a doubt afraid of any group that challenges this power, especially one with some popular support.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

can chicago tell me more about jan terri?

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I did not know this. Interesting choice of words, too:

"In April, 2000, female aldermen and women's groups managed to defeat in committee an honorary street sign for Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, whom they called the "world's biggest pornographer," only to have Ald. Burton F. Natarus (42nd) use a parliamentary maneuver to ram it through the next day."

I don't know who Jan Terri is.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

^^^haha yeah I thought the same thing about that sentence.

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

does anybody want to go to the No Exit cafe with me to see a performance artist pull an American flag out of her butt?

I'll bite (not literally), what's this about?

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

That's pretty much all I know. My friend forwarded me an email that said:

Please come see me pull a US flag out of my butt

WHY? For DEMOCRACY

HOW? As LA DINK
"...delightfully charmless ... like Carol Burnett on crack"
- The Carbondale Review

WHERE? DEMOCRACY BURLESQUE
a rather fun evening of politcal humor & music with a kick-ass MC at the No Exit Cafe on Glenwood b'twn Morse & Lunt

WHEN? Tuesday, July 11th @ 7.30pm

COST? $10 or pay what'cha want:
All proceeds benefit Illinois Healthcare Reform & one other left-leaning non-profit TBA

HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!
Judith Harding

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

is it like flag-draped-over-coffin sized or one of those 4"x4" deals that little kids wave at 4th of july parades?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if she's just gonna shove it in her pants and pull it out.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Or a 'metaphorical flag'

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to suggest the worker rights center as a lefty org. that they could raise funds for, but I think the nun that runs the parent organization would balk at the, er, source.

It could be a car dealership flag for all I know.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Since it's pay as you please, I suggest we all go and find out.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

i'm down.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a movie once where a woman shit out a large fish. It was bleeding hilarious.

― a great big turk running amok with a machete (kenan), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago HOTs: Pancakes, the Pink Line, and a Cat-friendly Bird

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Monday, 26 June 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

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